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Out Of All The Answers To This Question,I Agreed With His The Most. A Lot Of Black People Do Play The Victim. People Need To Learn That The Only Person Who Can Keep You From Succeeding Is Yourself. But Instead Of Admitting That Their The Problem They Rather Blame It On Other People Because Nobody Likes To Point The Finger At Themselves,They'd Rather Point It Elsewhere.
@Jay Quan If that's the case then every known power of this world from the beginning of time should pay what it owes. I just want to know how can you ration what it owe?
He said that "playing a victim is saying I'm acting like something is being done to me when nothing is being done to me." Okay. I have several cousins that go on and on about how "The Man" is keeping them down, but they chose not to complete college, take on a low income job, and have children out of wedlock with multiple partners. Soooo... How did "The Man" keep them down? Cuz I got a master's degree and I have a good job. My daughter's father is my husband. I'm thriving. Sounds to me like "Playing the Victim"
life is about choices, well done Alisha, blue print for success is work hard, family and belief system whether it is religious or not, you may not become wealthy but you will be contented and hopefully happy
As a Puerto Rican born and raised in the getto bronx, family on welfare. I started like an OG then turn my life over to Christ, changed my thinking and then made something of myself! No excuse for anyone to make it renew your mind! No excuses!
Amen! I’m Puerto Rican from Chicago, gave my life to Christ in 97. It was for freedom that Christ set us free brother. It is He who renews our thinking and makes us a new creation in Christ. God bless.
That's what I'm talking about, it doesn't matter your skin color what matters is you , YOU decide what YOU want in this life. I am white nothing has been given to me, I have work for 30 plus years straight. But that's what your supposed to do, and adding Jesus to your life always help no don't.
Dude said “ I could never accept responsibility for the things other people have done to us” and idk if anyone realizes how toxic and important and revealing that simple statement is.
If you tell him that using slavery is an excuse then how did others become celebrities? How is it that they make millions but others still “suffer”. Did those celebrities somehow make it through without oppression from the 60s? Blue shirt ignores that it depends on location and how you present yourself. Not even different suburbs have the same culture.
I'm black and black people do play the victim. I see it all the time. I had to stop hanging out with some people I really like for that very reason. It was depressing. Every time I see them they're complaining about the white man keeping them down... You ask them what they got going on and it's nothing but talking about getting women, smoking and trying to get the newest clothes. I ask them about wanting to work or school and they think I'm crazy. They don't even try but contribute being oppressed to why they live with their momma and have a lot of kids. I talked to them as much as I could before I decided I'd rather not them get me depressed too.
Fact bro, I got kicked out of the Juneteenth party yesterday because I said "African Americans victim mentality is holding them back nowadays." The victim mentality is a plague in the black community. Our ancestors shed their blood for the opportunities we have today and instead of taking advantage of those opportunities many of us just use our dark history as an excuse for everything bad that happens in our lives. No everything is not equal and we are still fighting, but huddling in a corner and crying about the struggles of life accomplishes nothing. You don't get to choose the circumstances you are born into. You can either become an activist and fight the good fight or accept the situation and face life's hurdles.
It’s something that many black people don’t like to address. When someone speaks up like the guy on the left, he’s demonized or billed a sellout. We hurt ourselves on both ends.
@@Rocanala Did you not hear the woman on the right? You can reject the victim mentality all you want, but that won't stop you from being shot and killed by the police because some Karen thought you weren't the right color to be where you are.
Why do we care so much about being, "looked down upon," or being, "disrespected?" I could care less what anybody thinks about me. If someone disrespects you, you check them and move on. Everyone gets disrespected.
Dear black adults: Please stop complaining about how people look at you. There is something called self esteem. If you can’t build it, there is therapy or medication available. Edit: I wrote that a year ago. Since then, I’ve grown. I would now say “How you look at yourself matters more than how people look at you. Before you look at others, look inside yourself.” ✌️❤️
It’s not about one white person looking down on you it’s about the stereotypes that comes with that looking down so when you go into a job interview it’s not that I care about how these person feels about me but the way this person feels about me (typically a white person) will be my outcome of that job because society doesn’t value us if you don’t understand that then your confused
@@smurraybenn I’ve been in three separate industries in the past decade and I’ve been ranked number 1, broke records, and out performed veterans. I’m too busy out working you that I don’t have time to care about what people might think. I’ve never met a high-performing individual that took time to complain about stereotypes. It stinks of low self esteem. 7 years ago I was homeless and today I’m making $200K. If your work ethic sucks it’s not anyone’s fault but your own.
It depends on what you're working at. If you're working hard for someone else, you will not become privileged. Millions of Americans work two jobs to make ends meet. They work hard. They're not privileged. There are those who don't know what it means to work that hard, yet live a very fruitful life. That's privilege.
@@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 I'm sorry can you please explain "the only thing holding so many individuals back is their own mindset" to me cause I thought you meant it's holding them back to succeeding.
"We weren't given the opportunity!" is another way of saying "I can't make it unless somebody gives me a shot...!" I'm a black man and that's what a victim sounds like to me...!
Exactly. And when dude in the blue shirt talks about generational wealth, yes, he has a point that some things, like bank loans, were unfairly denied, but not every white person in America was handed land and money from a wealthy progenitor! I inherited nothing from poor immigrant ancestors who only arrived in the late 1800s. What I did "inherit" were parents who were married to each other and provided for us kids, who read a lot and valued education, honesty, and work. That wasn't based on their race.
@@marlenecranford8957 but thats the point ,most black americans didn't inherit anything from their parents/ancestors because of segregation and oppression from the jim crow era. you can't deny that alot of peoples success comes directly or indirectly from their parents and their ancestors, it effects your entire upbringing. many black Americans didn't have proper access to education during those time periods. HBCUs were created because blacks couldn't go to the schools that white kids were going to. and even to this day HBCUs don't receive the proper funding. I agree that many black americans have settled for a victim mentality, and they need to rise above, but we can't just ignore the extra post slavery hurtles that black americans still have to go through to reach the "american dream".
@@kfen8794 While I would agree, big kev, I also see part of the problem as being when something doesn't go our way (getting a job, promotion, being called out for an inappropriate behavior, especially by a white person, etc), many of us are quick to claim it was motivated by nothing other than the color of our skin. This is what the majority of white friends/family I know consider "playing the victim" or "playing the race card"... not that the legacy of slavery/Jim Crow, etc., didn't, or doesn't continue to have, a profound effect on our communities...rather, that every perceived wrong is blamed on systemic racism, etc. When we do this, without even considering any other reasonable explanation, we diminish what it truly means to be a victim of that legacy.
@@kfen8794 You pointed out a really key issue with the discussion, and part of what makes the left call conservatives racist and uncaring, while the right points a victim mentality: many many republicans (as a republican, I see it a lot) lack sympathy for the things that put black americans behind the curve in this country. While arguments such as that their progenitors worked incredibly hard and weren't always given help to succeed, and by doing so pass on that success and wealth to their descendants are valid, they can alienate others who either had ancestors slighted by a broken system or parents and grandparents who simply didn't provide the same level of support. While I disagree with the idea that whites need to pay reparations for black americans to succeed, it is very important for white americans to not be harsh, and try to understand why black americans feel slighted, and in addition, it's very important that white americans help to fix some systems that are still broken, like policing, it's training methods, punishment systems, and the criminal justice system attached to it, which is broken for all races in terms of police brutality, but is particularly highlighted in lower income communities where police are less forgiving of similar offenses found in higher income communities. And that last point is not to say that black communities specifically don't receive more harsh policing, but more to say that many of the more rough policing incidences occur in low income areas, white included, as opposed to higher income areas, this is just lopsided towards black communities due to current economic strata within the US, largely due to former systems which held back black americans economically.
That is true but you can't use the subset of Africans that make it in the US as the example of all Africans. The immigration process screens a lot of people.
@@user-sx6eu4rg2x I think it does. The people that make it thru that gauntlet are determined, grateful,lucky and have a high desire to educate or enrich themselves.
@Pau Woo Then by all means explain it. If you can't, or won't then of course we dont know. But if you cant explain the difference well enough, I'll disregard it anyway. "Playing the victim" in my book is more or less using the excuse of racism, and of others against yourself. Using it to push yourself down, instead of using things to pull yourself back up.
I agree. And it's sad to see that when black folks know the truth, speak the truth, and act as individuals and think with their intelligence and instincts and not their color they get extreme hatred and vitriol from white liberals and Democrats in general. I honestly feel like that for African-Americans to be better off in this country they need to reconnect with their political-heritage... In 1934 the first black Democrat was elected to congress, prior to this 21 Black Americans served in congress as Republicans. The Democratic party has have over 200 years of oppressing minorities and blacks... Now I'm not saying that blacks should all become Republicans because the Republican party then was much different than it is now. But if you look at these black folks that served before the 20th century, many of them were adherents to natural law (natural rights) and maximizing individual freedom while restraining the government as much as possible, because the government allowed such institutions like slavery to exist in the first place.
I was thinking about this and wondered something, why is it that Africans go to America for the opportunities and get really successful while African Americans still feel they don't have that to push them up? I don't really get it and that to me,is the person who plays the victim
Right...everyone has the same opportunity....not the same outcome....because it's up to one taking the opportunity to make something of it. Some ppl regardless of race will have it hard some easy. ...but one has to overcome...
@Soldiers Creed Great comment and it makes more sense than most. People of all races have to apply themselves. And can accomplish anything. They want to. The one with no arms uses his mind to accomplish things. Anyone can do it. But they have to want it.
It's all about your mindset. With the right mindset you'll remember your history, learn from it and become stronger. And to do that you need to forgive in order to get rid of the chains
Nobody wants to forgive people who steal consistently hate. You have a point about remember your history and having the right mindset to persevere but forgiving people who imparts to agree with the evil their ancestors did is not logical. They simply continue to do the same things
A.Emerson James From 1910-1945, Japan took over Korea. Before that, the Japanese government took part in murdering our empress. My grandmother was forced to have a Japanese name, a Japanese education, and was barred to speaking Korean at school in an attempt to slowly dissolve our culture. Some Korean women even got kidnapped to become “comfort women”. Should the Japanese of today pay me for the grievances of the past, even though I myself never went through those atrocities? Stop acting like you’re owed something because of the past atrocities your ancestors may have went through.
@@jfdomega7938 bruh even in Africa they think they are owed something. Even though presidents and police all the power is to the blacks, and yet they still think whites in their country have more power lol it's crazy
Playing the victim is a mindset. One that I never heard from my parents, or grandparents, and they lived in times that were MUCH worse than today. Bad things will happen to everyone. How should we teach our kids to respond to the inevitable problems in life? If I were to teach my kids that they were basically “born victims”, I’d be setting them up for failure and handing them a handicap that other cultures don’t pass down from generation to generation.
What about,... things are unequal and Bad because of dicriminatory things that occurred in the past .i.e. an inferior and defeated legacy⁉️☻ BlackAmericanDOS, who did Not kill their Oppressors, are Not 'Playing' the 'victim' they Are the de facto 'Victims'❕💯
do you ever wonder why those businesses actually went under the same way we were quite successful after slavery and were thriving that's what the actual domestic terrorism of white mobs comes in that's where racist policy to destroy neighborhoods came in politically socially and economically
If you want to know your past life, look at your present condition. If you want to know your future life, look at your present actions. - Padmasambhava
Dennis Bryant I couldn’t agree more, I’m a first generation American, My dad is Greek, my mom is jaimaican an Irish ( ye interesting mix) I had the misfortune of growing up in the NYC foster care system in the south bronx during the 80’s an 90’s. An despite the cards stacked against me I pulled through an became successful in life.
I'm a coloured from SA and apartheid stopped 26 years or so I was born in it and today I can truly say that where I'm from it's a community of victims mostly everybody just wants to blame everything on apartheid and not blame it on the fact of alchohol and drug abuse... I had to change my mentality and realise I'm the only one responsible for my achievements. Yes it was hard being in my twenties everybody having a party while I was putting my head down and working every weekend to pay for my studies... and today I dont regret anything. Actually I'm so proud of myself got a greencard and moving to your wonderful country later this year so I consider myself really blessed and grateful.
Congratulations. I can already see you successful in America. Despite that you will be a coloured and immigrant person in America to start with , You have the right mindset to be successful.
I believe playing the victim is when I blame other people for my situation. Whether I have grounds to or not. Blame makes me feel better cuz I don't have to take responsibility. So playing the victim feels better
The United States of America is only 243 years old so where are they getting 400 years of oppression? Slavery came from the Middle-east way before we were a nation. I grew up just ahead of the poverty line, graduated HS in '82 in Texas and saw very little of it. Now in 2020 I see people walking around angry over things that they chose to allow to keep them down. I am Spanish & Asian and have experienced some racism but chose not to let that define me. How did I do that, by being better than the rest. If my family of seven could do that why can't everyone else?
Please, please, please learn some history. Slavery began in the year, 1619 in the colony, of Virginia. The 13 colonies did not become the United States until the year 1776. What surprises me is that if you hear people saying 400 years, why wouldn't you do a little research to find out why Blacks say this? Do you see your bias in not giving them the benefit of the doubt? Many whites are now saying that they did not know that Blacks were being brutalized by cops, yet Blacks have been saying this for years. If they were not biased against Blacks, they would have believed them without all of the cellphone videos. Because I'm sure they would have believed other whites if they were reporting that they were being brutalized.
@@loriannrichardson7644 No, I see no bias today except what the talking heads keep pumping into black communities. From 1605 to 1776, Virginia was a British colony. BTW, I liked how you conveniently sidestepped the fact that slavery was well documented as far back as 3500 BC in the regions of Mesopotamia and likely earlier. By the way, where is Mesopotamia today? Iraq, the Middle east. Who began to sell their slaves to European Nations? Fellow blacks. Sorry Loriann, I did pay a little attention during World History in the 7th grade. That is the problem when you begin to rewrite history. Instead of Googling everything, try visiting your local library. They have a whole world of verifiable history you can learn from.
We become a victim the moment we acknowledge the past and problems today and say I cant do something because or I would do this but... Life is hard for everyone and black America is losing sight of that. We think we have it harder than everyone else when it isn't true.
He meant that it's impossible to accuse them of playing the victim because they ARE and Have Been the victims. They're not "playing the victim", they've literally gotten the way short end of the stick. That's what he meant.
@@timeforanythinggood that is the victim mentality. He's literally saying he wasn't born into billion dollar family so he is behind! He value life as wealth. Basically saying without wealth life is meaningless and if you think life should be based on how much you have. You'll have sad life forever.
@@cakoll71 I doubt he thinks that , but I'm sure you know that statistically black people in America are among the poorest and least land-owning demographic
@@dlckddyd76 I think acknowledging victim-hood in the case of black communities is valid. They have to work twice as hard to make up for what they were born lacking, or not being shown as an example. Obviously dwelling in victim-hood is counterproductive, but I'm sure it's hard to ignore when it's an ongoing issue. Work needs to be done on both sides, in black communities and in the larger white American population, to support everyone and help them rise up
My dad’s mother died when he was 2 years old and was raised by an aunt in an impoverished desert border town in Mexico. At 13, my grandfather came for him, brought him to America, got him his green card, and made him work until he was 20 in California’s agricultural fields. He knew very little English, had a 5th grade education. My dad had enough and wanted to succeed. His dream was to become a big rig truck driver. He began to learn more English, got his driver’s license in 1972. By the age of 30 he got his class A license. By the age of 35, he got his first home. By the time he retired, at 66, his home was paid off and had a nice retirement fund. He faced racism in the 1960s, 70s, and even 80s, he had no other family than his estranged father in America and aunt in Mexicali, he had a language and education barrier. But that never stopped him and he never felt like a victim and NEVER made excuses.
Amen!!....life is what u make it. We all have had our share of struggles....but it’s what u do with the struggles, do we keep rehearsing the same narrative or do we rewrite it? The CHOICE is up to us....go figure 🤔
Mexicans do not face the same level of discrimination. They are allowed to set up their own communities with their own stories. They aren't getting priced out of their own communities and they don't set Mexicans Americans homes on fire in mass numbers like they have down historically to black Americans. Your comparing apples to oranges. Mexicans even have the nerve to be racist to black Americans in California and Texas so telling someone not to play that victim while being racist to them is crazy.
@@ravenlee8221 So Hispanics had all of their successful communities bombed? And raised the rent on their homes in order to acquire their land like they do Gullah people and black people in Louisiana. They go illegally searching your kids and kidnapping them so they admit to crimes they didn't do? I don't remember that happening. A lot of you are comparing coming here at will to black Americans coming here through slavery, then forced to sharecrop like my grandparents because their land was taken by whites.
and yet no one said anything about that..... Oh, they had generational wealth......B.S.!! My grandparents didn't leave anything substantive to my parents.....& my parents won't leave anything substantive behind the children.....etc.....So again, another excuse. Not everyone has wealth handed down to them. Get a grip.
Jake Heke Good point. I wanted to add, I’m of European background and have No generational wealth! So it isn’t fair for the one gentlemen to say all whites have a head start.
“Playing the victim” to me isn’t so much that you are complaining about something that didn’t happen, but rather that you are using what has happened as reasoning as to why you are not successful in life, to disregard the struggle of others as individuals or as reasoning to even victimize others. My brother and I grew up poor, in a bad area around drugs and gangs. My brother used all this as his reasons for him remaining poor, going to jail and using drugs while I have used it all for strength to become successful running my own business. He never seen the opportunities while I seen them all around. You can’t take away our history but you can change your future.
@RealityHurts923 - That happens in families probably all over the world. EX: The "black sheep" ( which often is played to a "t" in living out the victim identity ) plays out which is another conversation altogether. Different temperaments, child-rearing approaches, chemical make-up, mental acuity or not, innate drive or not. And families can be rather unloving and unaccepting of the "odd one" as well. Either way, good for you for looking forward. Hope your brother's doing better.
I'm vibing with the young brother in the back and the sister with the glasses. Dudes on the front row will give you a 100 page essay for why it's not your fault. I'm constantly comparing myself to my father, grandfather, and great-grandfather. My grandfather hustled and raised seven kids and the children of a cousin of his that died. My dad grew up during segregation in the deep south. He told me when he was a kid he determined he wasn't going to be broke and looking for handouts. All these years later he is retired after working for 35 years and raising 8 kids. He did exactly what he said he was going to do. It's this exact reason that I don't play the victim. I am well aware of what my ancestors and to bring it even closer people a generation or two went through, it doesn't change what I have to do. No one owes me anything. I'm not ignoring or forgetting anything, I'm just not going to obsess over it or let it define me.
Well, actually the gentleman in the front row with the cap, is doing well. (He owns several restaurants in states in the south, and his frozen food products are in markets around the country.) Also, I understood the panel to say that inspite of Blacks being victims of racism -- they, themselves, have persevered. But, trust me all of the panelists are successful.
YOU ARE A VERY INTELLIGENT, RIGHTEOUS MAN AND INDIVIDUAL, IF THIS WERE THE CASE WITH EVERYONE HERE AMERICA WOULD BE ALLOT FURTHER ALONG AND HAPPIER AND WAY MORE PROSPEROUS. THE PAST CAN NEVER BE CHANGED LEARN FROM IT YES, BUT MOVE FORWARD AND SHAPE THE FUTURE FOR YOURSELF TO BE BETTER, YOU CAN IF YOU WANT TO.
You hit on something that determines success more than race: a young man with honorable male role models who demonstrate the virtues of commitment, hard work and love. I had the same in my life and I describe it as being blessed, not privileged. Now it’s up to us to pass that legacy to our kids and grandkids.
"Do we play the victim, I'll give a solid no" 2 minutes later.. "We are in a post traumatic state because of slavery 400 years ago" Literally all the ones that said "no we don't play victim" spent the entire video playing victim :/
To his point: he says that he is a victim, yet he doesn't allow it to hold him back or color his view of society. He refuses to allow his victimization to hold him back. He refuses to "play the victim."
@Jimmy Gambino wow. The depth of your logic and intellect floor me. "Shut up stupid." Such wry wit and cutting commentary. I am obviously dealing with a major brain. To quote a great and wise CZcams philosopher: " Shut up stupid."
@BigBoy 5.56mm sorry but I found his responses with the other guy funny. I know I'll get hate but I think white privilege is a myth. Its my opinion so please dont hate on me for it
Because of racism you don't have what you are supposed to have. You are not supposed to be mistreated, there isn't supposed to be a wealth gap, black schools shouldn't be underfunded... That's not being a victim. Those things should not and never occur. So if an individual fights or speaks up against injustice they are playing a victim?
I left the projects of Chicago in 82 , went into the service and moved my family out. Put my brother through college and got my mom her first home! I never played victim and didn’t raise my family to think like one!
Even if not in the same household which is preferable, I see the difference in children that have 2 stable parents even if they don’t both live in the same house vs just one parent
@@lauras3666 Sure, but the problem is with bad parents. They can be apart or together, if they are not good at parenting , for whatever reason, the child is going to pay the price. In my opinion it's not 2 parents vs one , but good parenting vs bad parenting.
@@Daniela-pr7rz Sure but you also have one good parent Vs one bad parent and that one bad parent can ruin the child no matter how hard the good parent tries.
@@kingsman428 That was my point too. If there's bad parenting, 2 parents is not an advantage. In my opinion, 1 good parent is better that 1 good and 1 bad. 2 good ones is the best.
You become a victim when you start watching other people's pockets and not your own. In the words of Malcolm X: "Quit begging the white man to help you and help yourself."🔥🔥🔥
Chris Rock: "I broke down on the road, and nobody would help me. But I realized, I was sitting in my car doing nothing. I got out and helped myself, and people stopped to help me."
I am white and do not have “generational wealth”. My parents barely got by. Everything I have I had to work for. I couldn’t afford to go to school without loans. I do believe slavery is an abomination in our history but I hope that someday we are able to move past it’s effects on our society
You realize their stuff after slavery furthermore a lot of poor whites help to push for This Racist system historically burning down economically prosperous black towns. Among support in the system of racism. Racism didn't stop at slavery. Furthermore you have black leaders killed due to the white supremacy in this country who could have United black and white poor
I canot give myself excuses when i have consistently read how slaves bought their freedom, their families freedom, bought land and started businesses. They were truly oppressed they didnt play victim and use slavery as an excuse to not fight hard and good and smart for the freedoms we enjoy right now. Unfortunately, we need more black people helping black people. Negativity spreads faster than positive unfortunately
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@@buckhaa1502 Didn't you know? If you don't think minorities are poor helpless victims then you are white. If you're not white then you are just ignorant and not awakened to the "truth". Lol
I’m a 70 yr old grandma who went back to school at age 40 after my ex left & told me the govt could raise my kids better than he could! So I went back to school, studying with 7 kids at home. But first I played the victim for 4 years and not changin anything myself! I had to get over the anger and the pity party! Got my nursing degree & fought my way off welfare! It was hard. But I grew up poor, oldest of 10 and refused to live that way the rest of my life!
Now, that’s what I’m talking about...It maybe hard but it can be done! Congrats to you for your faith and perseverance! ...and thank u for no longer playing the victim 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👍🏽😊
Didn't get a chance to build generational wealth?! As far as I can tell we are doing pretty well for "[whites having] 400 years head start" My family has gone from dirt floors and outhouses to finished basements and 2.5 bath homes. Soooooo... over generations we have built wealth.
@james mac, Are you white? Just curious because I am and I automatically agreed with the same guy. Makes me wonder why I gravitated towards him? Is that racism?
If a black person gets to the top it's because they worked harder than anyone else but if they dont get to the top it's because of racism and victimisation.
There is Morgan Freeman that says in America today racism not an issue and don't effect success. Because him and other successful black are living proof of that. Kill Wayne said he has personally never experienced rasism . And another successful black man. Just because white people are white don't mean we are all rich or successful. Or some how have more options than black or any other race for that matter in America. People need to stop opressing them self by there thoughts
A lot of people in black community are not behind the Blm movement because they know they are not a victim . And know that they can do whatever they want to in life. They have said on CZcams that they are not a victim and that's what b l m means to them . Watch CZcams. Hear it from them .
400 year head start? How would he explain foreigners coming to the US with rock bottom nothing, and within a few years might own their own successful business or be millionaires already?
I'm Nigerian American. Watching this video, and laughing. When people ask why immigrants come over and do well, this is it. The victim mentality is real and strong in the African American community. Be like those two individuals at the back. That's all I'm going to say.
Here's my example of playing the victim: Every time something negative happened to my family member they always blamed the system (ie the white man) for the negativity. Never mind that this individual consistently showed up for work late or whatever else they did wrong. Playing the victim can be blaming someone else for the bad decisions you made even though you were taught how to make good decisions.
Related to your point, my dad always said to me: "being late is 10% misfortune and 90% bad planning." Black people always focused on the 10% and refuse to address the 90%. Victimology.
I blame the system for the housing collapse in Detroit. I blame the system for mass incarceration. I don't think it was black people that flooded the streets with drugs.
I know, I'm a white female so this may mean nothing to anyone, but I am NOT a victim. I have had many bad things that I had no control over happen to me in my life but I refuse to be a victim. I agree each person is responsible for their own life choices.
@@christinebuckingham2480 Excuse me for simpping. Lol. Your words and experiences are still valid regardless of who you are. I think it depends on how you deliver your life's story to others is what matters here. Either you can be humble and accepting about it or you can simply play the victim. As the old adage goes, "We all have something to bring to the table." This is a genuine question here, but, do you feel that being a white woman gives your life's experiences little meaning to others?
@@lettuceinn9515 I should not have said it that way, for context, I had been watching way too much stuff on the new systemic racism in this country. I really care very little about what others think about my experiences. I put them out there and they will either make someone think or not.
keemoify first of all because we access to the same things every other race doesn't mean we receive them at the same rate. Black people have to work three times as hard as their white counterparts and we still don't get the job. Because some powerful people still have a racist mindset and because of false stereotypes we don't get the basic things we need, like jobs and healthcare. We can NEVER play the victim.
keemoify we aren't talking about Asians. Were talking about black people. Although Asians were oppressed by other Asians, black people were oppressed by white people who made it difficult for us to simply live our lives. And if we stay on topic, black people have never said we are owed anything. We just try live our lives but we can't because white people still make it difficult. And that is not playing the victim.
Honestly, I believe that everyone should move on about slavery in the USA. There's slavery going on in other places to this day, yet people here in the USA wanna cling to the past as if that'll help them out. Especially people who haven't even experienced it. We had a black man as president for two terms.
Yes WE PLAY THE VICTIM and the media hammers everyday how victimized we are. Explain to me how people from other countries, other races come to America and work on their dreams
Because they are not born here black people. They a lot of times come here from rich origins in Nigeria etc. Black people born in America have been systematically conditioned to stay in their place. Yes, some overcome that but a lot don’t. I mean honestly black people not too long ago got the equal right to vote without some discriminatory stipulations.
Facts! Thank you. They overlook the fact that Obama and other former administrations enacted policies to ensure immigrants opportunities while born Black American proffered absolutely nothing. I look at a lot of the comments and, no doubt, most speak without knowledge of true history and facts. They're watching too much tv (aka the idiot box.)
@@crossnetworkllc But people are talking about systemic RACISM, so you are set back because of your race. How could there be disparities in success if it was all racial and not cultural?
@@MMMMecca facts or actions??! You're handicapping a whole race for generations, and is everyone's fault??? TV is a problem, true, watching what athletes wear so go stand in line for hours to pay for some Jordan's, or choose to sell drugs to purchase cars and jewelry, looking up to rappers but not looking to be a leader and take the difficult path and WORK without quitting or excuses. Smh
If our ancestors were able to build black Wall Street, during a time where racism was more blatant than it is today. What is stopping us from following in their footsteps 🤷🏾♂️.
J Horne My point is that there is a narrative that the major factor of our current situation is we have a victim mentality. It’s not as black and white as that. As you said we were entrepreneurs and business owners, we were also the targets of lynchings for being business owners and voters. We were also landowners but then we integrated and our progress was lost to the pages of history.
Victim mentality sucks away a person's motivation to work hard. Nothing can be done to change history. The only option is to do your best and give 100%.
Playing the victim is when EVERY TIME something negative happens in your life, you blame someone or something else. Look around and see the truth, accept responsibility or you’ll always be a victim.
Yes negative things often happen, to teach us valuable life lessons. Like we go through bad relationships, so that we learn to appreciate the good ones.
8:00 “I can never agree that it’s on us to fix the mistakes of others”... so why are people asking for reparations from people who have never had slaves to people who have never been slaves?
@@nobimantis9 Well using that logic then no one should get anything but the Native Americans until we can prove who the very first people were of this land and what is owed to them.
I have been trying to find this conversation for a while now. I agree with her 100%!!!! What I heard her say is that just because you were victimized DOES NOT MEAN, you now have to BE the victim. My Father used to say that ALL THE TIME, "I ain't raising no victims." I understand that now more than ever. To live in that mentality and operate by that mentality is what keeps the black community from taking countries to economic war and instead keeps us begging for justice from the SAME folks who victimized us in the first place. We've stayed in this role way too long! They are comfortable with us being here. Why are we????
As an Asian male, I worked hard to get into a top 20 university. Is the system unfair where I need to score higher on the SAT or get good grades? Yes, but my response was not to complain or protest.
@Ashley M very true, I am not saying you have to deal with it like me, but I will say that Asian males are the highest earning demographic in America. I will leave it at that.
@@ToFester Yes, there are plenty of people who don't like Jewish people by default whether they are successful or not. Some people don't like Asians. Despite what you see in the media, racism isn't something only black people experience.
titaniumonkey exactly, a lot of English people hate (polish people) even though they are “white”. They hate them because they are apparently ‘stealing their jobs’ . I’ve even come across some black Caribbean’s who think that as well. A lot of people discriminate Gypsies, Irish travelers,Romanians...etc
Indians have the highest earnings in the UK and Bangladeshi and Pakistani have the lowest. All were part of India before it split in 1920 & 1960 - If you looked at these people they look similar. Why is it that some groups do better? Answer - Culture.
And recent Hispanic immigrants that came here with zero wealth. Nothing but the clothes on your back and now are home owners, business owners, kids in college etc.
Back row: top left gentleman, and lady next to him, you 2 brought tears to my eyes! God bless you both! I can only hope there’s more people of your perspective, grace and wisdom on this earth❤️
I appreciate hearing this discussion. Something that may help is understanding that the 100 Rich White families that have "Generational Wealth" do not represent the 100,000,000 white middle class families that have no generational wealth. For the vast, vast majority, there is no generational wealth, no power, no "easy squeezie" life of luxury.
@@rogerdorsey7823 Greed is definitely a problem, but *ALL* people are greedy. Some are just more effective and feeding and satisfying their greed. Socialists, Communists, Marxists, and Progressives are just as greedy, and when they rule, their corruption is also Governmentally enforced. In reality, this is all what the Bible has foretold the 'end' would look like, with a One World Government demanding absolute obedience or relegating deniers to death. There is nothing new under the sun. The fascinating thing is to watch it unfolding in real-time, not postulating it 100s or Dozens of years in the future.
@@rogerdorsey7823 the way wealth is distributed? Eliminated? What process? It all seems a little vague. Wealth is not solely "distributed" it is also exchanged+earned. Shrink the gov if u want more wealth, more importantly deal wisely with ur wealth. Not everyone who is rich fell into $$$ many earned it the hard way.
@LoyalT1987 they were not even alive in the 60's. They were all born post civil rights movement, there's no reason they don't do better, except the cultural one they have in their communities.
@90 lemme ask you cousin. when will we ever get past it? i cant even post a reply to you cause your viewpoint supports maintaining dissension. so what does every person you feel victimized you have to do to make you feel something positive and move on?tell me i really wanna know
Trentsum, my observation as well. Matter of fact, in each of these "discussion" videos, the young man on the left is coming forth with more wisdom and a display of amazing maturation, as well as speaking truth more so than the others. Moreover, he's speaking on a level that all can clearly understand. Bravo, to him!
@@electric8668 The two are not exclusive. Some racism exists in America amongst all the different ethnicities. All land has been taken by force of the strong over the weak. All races of people have been enslaved at some point in their history. Blacks love their victimhood mentality more than the rest of us.
@@Trentsum You failed to give me the date racism stopped in America. You say all groups have been enslaved at some point. Possibly. But the discussion is about one group and one group only. Blacks, so let's stay on topic. Name all the groups the American South fought the civil war to keep in slavery?
@@CephlonMayngrum Black people died for the right to vote ... I as a black man do not even bother to vote , listening to my people talk here has made me ashamed of myself because I can do more but I choose to stay in the same place...
Booker T Washington said before we bring over people from foreign lands who speak foreign tongues hire my people first. Now he would be called a anti immigrant or bigot
"so my dad raises me saying don't work for the white man" . congrats sir, your dad raised you racist. later edit : please debate peacefully if you comment. respect goes a long way. while i agree the context is different to why he worded it like that to his son, i firmly believe black parents should raise their kids to work equally respectful with anyone , whatever their skin. Perpetuating stereotypes will never bring a positive change. both parties have to make efforts equally.
where in that phrase do you see him belittling whites or make blacks seem far more superior against whites because of skin color???? he was raising him to be an entrepreneur and yeah the white man part wasn’t necessary but hey what’s said is said
@@josephcancino2042 when you keep saying you want equality with all types of people, you teach your kids to work with all types of people. Singling out "white men" as a no no, teaches the kid they're bad from the get go. Parents should teach and raise their kids to be better than themselves. It's now you get to equality and peace. Can't fight racism with racism.
“White man” in this context means any man other than yourself-most poignantly-corporations ran by white men. Black people utilize colloquial language in intimate settings and it can come across as bigoted and harsh, but it truly isn’t. Hope that helps you draw a more rounded observation.
So are u saying we should just forget about slavery. Just act like it never happened! Thats what happened to the african religion! Happening to our music, and our cusine! So u saying just forget about black heritage and culture! Just make the black folks extinct. Basically that's what ur saying! Thats exzactly what they want to do! Wipe it under the rug, and move on!!!
Patrick Ryan Ummmm what??? You must be Caucasian....not that there’s anything wrong with being Caucasian but simplifying and ignoring the pathology of African Americans and compartmentalizing their history sounds about white....Asians and Irish “slavery” can not be compared to the enslavement of Black people. Not even close.
@@reneejohnson9256 im from georgia(County)for few centuries, there was slavery, my ppl got sold by persians and arabs, but i have not right to play vicitim, and will not ever, i have not right to go to first iranians and said that he are one who have to get blamed🤷♂️. slavery was all around globe u have to just move. btw sry English is my second language so maby i write inaccurate
@@momof2240 Asians have to deal with other types of inequalities...Asians are less likely to get into a good college I mean look at what UC did a few weeks ago. Obviously, slavery is way worse than not getting into a school but you don't see Asians complaining all day long right. I'm not saying we should just accept it and move on but complaining about the past isn't going to change anything for you or others. If you want to change then say it, say what you want to see that changes, but saying "we are oppressed" over and over again is not making a difference.
I am black myself, and I hate the fact the community continues to victimize themselves, why do we still beg for ourselves to be oppressed. It makes our generation look ignorant asl. Worry about your life and goals and better yourself!
This is a really great video. This is how we are supposed to be. Communicating. Not the media spewing hate and promoting violence. Thank you for sharing. Much love
@@broodjebalknakworst1963 Were they discriminated against after fighting for the rights of foreigners, only to return home and be denied those same rights in their own country.
@@loriannrichardson7644 we are talking about being a victim of another. Besides that Im pretty sure that most discrimination claim are unjustified, how often I see ppl claim discrimination while it is another reason.
@@broodjebalknakworst1963 Your problem is you have already made up your mind, so that even if a racist incident were to occur before you, you would not see it as such. In the US, I have only to turn on the news to see Blacks murdered by cops, and accosted and detained by whites who think that their white privilege grants them the right. The difference now is that cell phone videos now capture the racism Black Americans have been experiencing for years since they were "freed." Also, I'm certain that if you ask the Jews if the events of WW2 continues to impact their lives in some way, I'm certain you will get a YES!
@@loriannrichardson7644 Im brown myself (Indonisian) I dont agree at all, I see white ppl have the same problems I have. My brother us a officer here, he often get called a racist for stopping for examle a muslim, while in fact he cant cant even see the person in the car while perfoming the actionn
It's all about transferring resources from one group to another. If the Government didn't have the power to do this then they wouldn't be complaining - they would just get on with their life
As the saying goes, “it takes a village to raise a child.” The village that I come from was a deranged one but the one I am in now has helped me heal. I am thriving as a successful college grad (1st generation) and I am an entrepreneur (1st generation) this life I’ve been given us an up hill Blessing but it’s far from what it was for my ancestors and my kids will know that I led an example so that they could be better off than I was. I remember my grandmother expressing her gratitude to God that I didn’t have to suffer those and struggles, hate and fears like she did as a black girl from Mississippi during Jim Crow Control...
I'm sick of the media victimizing black people & encouraging it - I call this out in the last video on my channel, a news parody. I encourage people to check it out & reflect deeply about news messaging. I appreciate this video exploring this topic.
@Desirea Winton sure, there may always be work to do for as long as humans are on this earth because true equality is impossible due to biology. We are equal. As far as the law is concerned everybody is equal, the "work that needs to be done" that you refer to is subtleties, individual prejudice and perhaps biological prejudices. This depends on other people to change, not us; we can only do our best and try to improve ourselves, our families, our communities. Perhaps it will take more work for a black family to rise up out of poverty? Better get to work to give your kids a better ride, that's how you break the cycle. No one owes you anything, complaining about injustice that someone ELSE has to fix is useless and personally destructive. The victimhood mentality is the direct OPPOSITE of taking responsibility. The world changes for the better as it has been and as it will continue to. Past injustices were because the state didn't give us a fair chance, current injustices are individuals there is a huge difference. Now is the time that we are no longer victims, if we did everything right and still fail, perhaps complaint is in order but when I hear people complain unprompted about racism, normally it mean's they haven't even started trying.
Slavery was abolished in 1865. South Korea got independence in 1950 India in 1947 Israel in 1948 Nigeria in 1960 They got freedom and asked what should I achieve next. You got freedom and ask what’s my prize. Hint: it’s freedom ...use it.
@@rayr4593 what about jim crow and segregation and color laws or forget that it has happened we got a semblance of freedom in the 1960's and late at that get some history some context and stop regurgitating BS
Victim Mentality. Nothing holds somebody back more than seeing themselves as a victim. It allows them to see themselves as not being responsible, it’s somebody else’s fault! The victim sees no hope in improving the situation, how can things get better if someone is holding them back? This causes anger and frustration. This is how too many people see themselves, so much so that their victim status becomes their primary focus and they seek ideologies that support their outlook. Unfortunately there are many agencies willing to promote this victimhood. Contemporary Culture, uneducated parents, leftist media, schools and Universities, all are often too willing to reinforce it!
Thomas Sowell wouldn't hurt. Larry King would be another great voice. Study the actual works of the late and Great MLK. Maya Angelou has so many inspiring messages that the cliff notes will never truly encapsulate, you really have to stop and give her words some thought. Candace Owens, though still a bit rough around the edges, is definitely growing into her own - I hope she takes that bitterness off her tongue so her own people will listen, but she's being herself. I mean, any voice that pushes for a stronger community and stronger family would be a voice that should be respected in the black community. Maybe that's just because I'm culturally hispanic and looking into the problems rather than living them myself and seeing out. I'm sure the tension of someone trying to save a drowning man is not the same as the stress of the man drowning. My only true concern is that I don't want to be pulled into the water for my trouble, I want to get others out and safe from drowning in the first place!
This just proves that EVERYONE can make it. Seems all these people had rough upbringings. They all worked hard and they all made it. Everyone can feel they were the victim of some sort of injustice. The ones that let go of the feeling of being a victim or used that feeling to help push them further are the ones that make it in life. Doesn't matter your skin color...
I am also able to cite historical facts since some people like to blur history for those who aren't paying attention and still don't feel like a victim. It's not hard.
I would like to know from blacks who got stuck in the past, trying to make people today pay for all the atrocities, What did blacks went through that Asians did not go through?
@@bluemarlin2004 Not sure what you mean by stuck in the past. During what period in time do you think that there were no civil injustices perpetrated towards black Americans and the collective community should have "gotten over it" so to speak?
I think they got close but never really defined it well. I’d say playing the victim is about what you do with an injustice, whether real or perceived. Some people will use it to limit what they think is possible. Some people will milk it to gain an advantage.
Well said indeed, Bereket. If I may, I shall add the opposite of “playing the victim.” Some people will explicitly acknowledge injustice (real or perceived) and while never denying it they continue undeterred in their determination to focus their energy on the control they have to succeed.
I love what the 3 Christians in this panel - that were outspoken on their faith said - racism is real but you don't have to let colour, race, gender hold you back - fight where it exists but use system to improve yourselves. Hope for America yet.
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Top left.... will be the happiest, wealthiest, and most fulfilling in his life. Simply because of his attitude and work ethic. Well done for him.
Out Of All The Answers To This Question,I Agreed With His The Most. A Lot Of Black People Do Play The Victim. People Need To Learn That The Only Person Who Can Keep You From Succeeding Is Yourself. But Instead Of Admitting That Their The Problem They Rather Blame It On Other People Because Nobody Likes To Point The Finger At Themselves,They'd Rather Point It Elsewhere.
Mr. McCann 100 percent
Austin Hebig Definitely a winner for sure
Agreed!
@@Mr.McCann978 I like what you said here.... BUT, every word is capitalized... so... yeah.
Everyone is a victim of something, but the question is are YOU going to keep crying about it or do something about it.
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@Jay Quan If that's the case then every known power of this world from the beginning of time should pay what it owes. I just want to know how can you ration what it owe?
@@FTBAFT say it again please.
@@StoicBachelor are you going to answer LEW or continue to hide? Like a lot of disingenuous LatinX people do when it comes to anti black racism?
@@Mr._Moderate I did and stated what I needed to say. And how am I hiding and what constitutes me as "LatinX?"
As a culture, honestly, some of hip hop is pushing black culture backwards.
who owns/runs Hip Hop?
Hip hop sucks
@@coreynewell5584 yup
Of course it does .
Steven Davis blacks
He said that "playing a victim is saying I'm acting like something is being done to me when nothing is being done to me." Okay.
I have several cousins that go on and on about how "The Man" is keeping them down, but they chose not to complete college, take on a low income job, and have children out of wedlock with multiple partners.
Soooo...
How did "The Man" keep them down?
Cuz I got a master's degree and I have a good job. My daughter's father is my husband. I'm thriving.
Sounds to me like "Playing the Victim"
Exactly, it is just a cop-out for their poor choices.
Amen. This isn't an institutional problem, it's a cultural one sadly.
life is about choices, well done Alisha, blue print for success is work hard, family and belief system whether it is religious or not, you may not become wealthy but you will be contented and hopefully happy
Exactly 💯💰😂😂
Love you girl, keep on rocking
As a Puerto Rican born and raised in the getto bronx, family on welfare. I started like an OG then turn my life over to Christ, changed my thinking and then made something of myself! No excuse for anyone to make it renew your mind! No excuses!
Amen! I’m Puerto Rican from Chicago, gave my life to Christ in 97. It was for freedom that Christ set us free brother. It is He who renews our thinking and makes us a new creation in Christ. God bless.
🙏🏿Amen
That's what I'm talking about, it doesn't matter your skin color what matters is you , YOU decide what YOU want in this life. I am white nothing has been given to me, I have work for 30 plus years straight. But that's what your supposed to do, and adding Jesus to your life always help no don't.
Thank you for standing for the truth!
Bendiciones hermano 🙏🏽
I see "Playing the victim" as using the history of the suffering of black people in this country as an excuse for everything bad in your life.
Dude said “ I could never accept responsibility for the things other people have done to us” and idk if anyone realizes how toxic and important and revealing that simple statement is.
basically lol
My next door neighbor growing up would always say that.
If you tell him that using slavery is an excuse then how did others become celebrities? How is it that they make millions but others still “suffer”. Did those celebrities somehow make it through without oppression from the 60s? Blue shirt ignores that it depends on location and how you present yourself. Not even different suburbs have the same culture.
Using history and circumstance as an excuse to not take responsibility for your own behavior = playing the victim
I'm black and black people do play the victim. I see it all the time. I had to stop hanging out with some people I really like for that very reason. It was depressing. Every time I see them they're complaining about the white man keeping them down... You ask them what they got going on and it's nothing but talking about getting women, smoking and trying to get the newest clothes. I ask them about wanting to work or school and they think I'm crazy. They don't even try but contribute being oppressed to why they live with their momma and have a lot of kids. I talked to them as much as I could before I decided I'd rather not them get me depressed too.
Fact bro, I got kicked out of the Juneteenth party yesterday because I said "African Americans victim mentality is holding them back nowadays."
The victim mentality is a plague in the black community. Our ancestors shed their blood for the opportunities we have today and instead of taking advantage of those opportunities many of us just use our dark history as an excuse for everything bad that happens in our lives.
No everything is not equal and we are still fighting, but huddling in a corner and crying about the struggles of life accomplishes nothing.
You don't get to choose the circumstances you are born into. You can either become an activist and fight the good fight or accept the situation and face life's hurdles.
It's sad cuz your comments.. Will be rebuttled.. Nothing worse black skin white a white agenda....
Hit that nail right on the nail
I’m 100% agreeing with you
Real talk
I admire anyone who resists a victim narrative and thinks for themselves. It's a brave thing to stand against the mob.
It’s something that many black people don’t like to address. When someone speaks up like the guy on the left, he’s demonized or billed a sellout. We hurt ourselves on both ends.
It's.. the normal thing to do. What a time we live in where that's heroic...
@@Rocanala Did you not hear the woman on the right? You can reject the victim mentality all you want, but that won't stop you from being shot and killed by the police because some Karen thought you weren't the right color to be where you are.
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@@DH-uw3us Oh please. Quit being so dramatic. How often do you think something like that would even occur?
"Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery" - Bob Marley
"None but ourselves can free our minds!"
"Cause all I ever had.... redemption songs.."
One of the simplest, and wisest, quotes I have ever read. True dat....
Yes, because slavery was all in their minds...
I think that quotes originally by Marcus Garvey.
Why do we care so much about being, "looked down upon," or being, "disrespected?" I could care less what anybody thinks about me. If someone disrespects you, you check them and move on. Everyone gets disrespected.
Dude, i watch your stuff quite a bit. Just subbed again cuz new phone... You're the best bro... Really
@@benyoung552 thank you.
Well I thought respect was earned not demanded with the threat of violence.
That type of thinking is why I love your content. Let me get back up in this rat race and expand my knowledge
Facts. I have only so much energy to expend and I chose not to direct it towards others that don't care about me.
Dear black adults: Please stop complaining about how people look at you. There is something called self esteem. If you can’t build it, there is therapy or medication available.
Edit: I wrote that a year ago. Since then, I’ve grown. I would now say “How you look at yourself matters more than how people look at you. Before you look at others, look inside yourself.” ✌️❤️
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It’s not about one white person looking down on you it’s about the stereotypes that comes with that looking down so when you go into a job interview it’s not that I care about how these person feels about me but the way this person feels about me (typically a white person) will be my outcome of that job because society doesn’t value us if you don’t understand that then your confused
@@smurraybenn I’ve been in three separate industries in the past decade and I’ve been ranked number 1, broke records, and out performed veterans. I’m too busy out working you that I don’t have time to care about what people might think. I’ve never met a high-performing individual that took time to complain about stereotypes. It stinks of low self esteem. 7 years ago I was homeless and today I’m making $200K. If your work ethic sucks it’s not anyone’s fault but your own.
@@GodfreyElder I understand I’m just saying it’s easier for some than others it’s a mindset
It’s funny how the harder someone works the more privileged they become.
Or , in the minds of these people, "the whiter they become".
That’s why east Asians are dominating in North America right now
It depends on what you're working at. If you're working hard for someone else, you will not become privileged. Millions of Americans work two jobs to make ends meet. They work hard. They're not privileged. There are those who don't know what it means to work that hard, yet live a very fruitful life. That's privilege.
@@Daniela-pr7rz Apparently, motivation, succes and hard work Can change ones skin pigment😂 most of the are ridiculous to listen to.
@@Daniela-pr7rz because we work hard and you don’t ?
The only thing holding so many individuals back is their own mindset.
But also their skin color.
@@Eric-mg6yr Tell that to the millions of whites on welfare.
@@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 what???
@@Eric-mg6yr Tell the millions of white families on welfare that their skin color Is holding them back.
@@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 I'm sorry can you please explain "the only thing holding so many individuals back is their own mindset" to me cause I thought you meant it's holding them back to succeeding.
"We weren't given the opportunity!" is another way of saying "I can't make it unless somebody gives me a shot...!" I'm a black man and that's what a victim sounds like to me...!
Exactly. And when dude in the blue shirt talks about generational wealth, yes, he has a point that some things, like bank loans, were unfairly denied, but not every white person in America was handed land and money from a wealthy progenitor! I inherited nothing from poor immigrant ancestors who only arrived in the late 1800s. What I did "inherit" were parents who were married to each other and provided for us kids, who read a lot and valued education, honesty, and work. That wasn't based on their race.
@@marlenecranford8957 but thats the point ,most black americans didn't inherit anything from their parents/ancestors because of segregation and oppression from the jim crow era. you can't deny that alot of peoples success comes directly or indirectly from their parents and their ancestors, it effects your entire upbringing. many black Americans didn't have proper access to education during those time periods. HBCUs were created because blacks couldn't go to the schools that white kids were going to. and even to this day HBCUs don't receive the proper funding. I agree that many black americans have settled for a victim mentality, and they need to rise above, but we can't just ignore the extra post slavery hurtles that black americans still have to go through to reach the "american dream".
Then explain to me how you expect to get hired unless the employer hires you?
@@kfen8794 While I would agree, big kev, I also see part of the problem as being when something doesn't go our way (getting a job, promotion, being called out for an inappropriate behavior, especially by a white person, etc), many of us are quick to claim it was motivated by nothing other than the color of our skin. This is what the majority of white friends/family I know consider "playing the victim" or "playing the race card"... not that the legacy of slavery/Jim Crow, etc., didn't, or doesn't continue to have, a profound effect on our communities...rather, that every perceived wrong is blamed on systemic racism, etc. When we do this, without even considering any other reasonable explanation, we diminish what it truly means to be a victim of that legacy.
@@kfen8794 You pointed out a really key issue with the discussion, and part of what makes the left call conservatives racist and uncaring, while the right points a victim mentality: many many republicans (as a republican, I see it a lot) lack sympathy for the things that put black americans behind the curve in this country. While arguments such as that their progenitors worked incredibly hard and weren't always given help to succeed, and by doing so pass on that success and wealth to their descendants are valid, they can alienate others who either had ancestors slighted by a broken system or parents and grandparents who simply didn't provide the same level of support. While I disagree with the idea that whites need to pay reparations for black americans to succeed, it is very important for white americans to not be harsh, and try to understand why black americans feel slighted, and in addition, it's very important that white americans help to fix some systems that are still broken, like policing, it's training methods, punishment systems, and the criminal justice system attached to it, which is broken for all races in terms of police brutality, but is particularly highlighted in lower income communities where police are less forgiving of similar offenses found in higher income communities. And that last point is not to say that black communities specifically don't receive more harsh policing, but more to say that many of the more rough policing incidences occur in low income areas, white included, as opposed to higher income areas, this is just lopsided towards black communities due to current economic strata within the US, largely due to former systems which held back black americans economically.
My friends from Nigeria, Ethiopia, Uganda don't feel oppressed in the USA. Just left the house of one from Uganda...one of several houses he owns.
That is true but you can't use the subset of Africans that make it in the US as the example of all Africans. The immigration process screens a lot of people.
@@dasugo immigration process has nothing to do with mindset.
@@user-sx6eu4rg2x I think it does. The people that make it thru that gauntlet are determined, grateful,lucky and have a high desire to educate or enrich themselves.
😂 almost everyone speaking is playing the victim and they don’t even realize it.
Like as in every black person or as in everybody?
So true. Its so ingrained in their mind that they dont even know when they're playing the victim card
@@andreaowens1322 two dudes in the front row
Yes yes yes
You clearly don't understand what it means to "play a victim."
"Playing the victim" keeps Black people from taking personal responsibility or ownership in how their lives turn out....just saying🤨
@Pau Woo Then by all means explain it. If you can't, or won't then of course we dont know. But if you cant explain the difference well enough, I'll disregard it anyway. "Playing the victim" in my book is more or less using the excuse of racism, and of others against yourself. Using it to push yourself down, instead of using things to pull yourself back up.
Telling them to play the victim also keeps some politicians in power.
@@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 yep...
I agree. And it's sad to see that when black folks know the truth, speak the truth, and act as individuals and think with their intelligence and instincts and not their color they get extreme hatred and vitriol from white liberals and Democrats in general. I honestly feel like that for African-Americans to be better off in this country they need to reconnect with their political-heritage... In 1934 the first black Democrat was elected to congress, prior to this 21 Black Americans served in congress as Republicans. The Democratic party has have over 200 years of oppressing minorities and blacks... Now I'm not saying that blacks should all become Republicans because the Republican party then was much different than it is now. But if you look at these black folks that served before the 20th century, many of them were adherents to natural law (natural rights) and maximizing individual freedom while restraining the government as much as possible, because the government allowed such institutions like slavery to exist in the first place.
But that’s not just blacks, anyone can play the victim.
Man on the top left , is on target. Everybody has opportunity to make it in America. Color has nothing to do with it.
I was thinking about this and wondered something, why is it that Africans go to America for the opportunities and get really successful while African Americans still feel they don't have that to push them up?
I don't really get it and that to me,is the person who plays the victim
Marzadky lazyness. If one is not lazy, one gets places.
Right...everyone has the same opportunity....not the same outcome....because it's up to one taking the opportunity to make something of it. Some ppl regardless of race will have it hard some easy. ...but one has to overcome...
@Soldiers Creed Great comment and it makes more sense than most. People of all races have to apply themselves. And can accomplish anything. They want to. The one with no arms uses his mind to accomplish things. Anyone can do it. But they have to want it.
We all have the same opportunity??? The biggest lie in American history!
“I don’t focus on what’s been done to me. I focus on what’s been done for me”. Time of video 14:00 min. That’s how you move forward 💯
Notice how that statement made others uncomfortable. Blame and finger pointing keeps you where you’re at.
It's all about your mindset. With the right mindset you'll remember your history, learn from it and become stronger. And to do that you need to forgive in order to get rid of the chains
Nobody wants to forgive people who steal consistently hate. You have a point about remember your history and having the right mindset to persevere but forgiving people who imparts to agree with the evil their ancestors did is not logical. They simply continue to do the same things
@@hbsupreme1499 can you explain the last part?
Playing a victim is blaming someone else for your situation.
A.Emerson James From 1910-1945, Japan took over Korea. Before that, the Japanese government took part in murdering our empress. My grandmother was forced to have a Japanese name, a Japanese education, and was barred to speaking Korean at school in an attempt to slowly dissolve our culture. Some Korean women even got kidnapped to become “comfort women”. Should the Japanese of today pay me for the grievances of the past, even though I myself never went through those atrocities? Stop acting like you’re owed something because of the past atrocities your ancestors may have went through.
로라 [Laura] well said, but they will always feel that they are owed something, even though they in comparison have it good. It’s called bitching!
@@jfdomega7938 bruh even in Africa they think they are owed something. Even though presidents and police all the power is to the blacks, and yet they still think whites in their country have more power lol it's crazy
@@Laura-Yu Where in that statement can you derive the response that they are acting like they are owed something?
@@-_-_-_8441 "they think they" - white supremacy language....
Playing the victim is a mindset. One that I never heard from my parents, or grandparents, and they lived in times that were MUCH worse than today. Bad things will happen to everyone. How should we teach our kids to respond to the inevitable problems in life? If I were to teach my kids that they were basically “born victims”, I’d be setting them up for failure and handing them a handicap that other cultures don’t pass down from generation to generation.
Jeremy P. Deep
What about,... things are unequal and Bad because of dicriminatory things that occurred in the past .i.e. an inferior and defeated legacy⁉️☻ BlackAmericanDOS, who did Not kill their Oppressors, are Not 'Playing' the 'victim' they Are the de facto 'Victims'❕💯
You have hit the nail on the head! So true.
@@davidwicks9538 That's just life. And you can't have a defeatist attitude if you're truly aiming for a better tomorrow.
Jeremy P. You’re on it Brother. Sadly it’s a hard discussion to have. 👍🏾
The fact they don’t know we had more businesses and money during segregation is mind blowing.
Exactly they cling to what keeps them a victim
do you ever wonder why those businesses actually went under the same way we were quite successful after slavery and were thriving that's what the actual domestic terrorism of white mobs comes in that's where racist policy to destroy neighborhoods came in politically socially and economically
Okay well go back in time get you a time machine and get it and bring it back up here
Or look for New opportunities whichever one is easier
This! Integration honestly wasn't the way.
@@briyanijackson2823 who is they? It seems the people in the video weren't knowledgeable about this fact.
DO WE PLAY THE VICTIM? - Yes. I just saved everyone from watching the video.
No we dont
@@hbsupreme1499 yes african americans as a whole play the victim card
@@hbsupreme1499 yes we do
@K D lies, if we did we would still be in slavery we e our succesxpose what is done to destroy
We need to stop dwelling on what we were, so that we can have a conversation about who we are, so that we can become who we were meant to be.
If you want to know your past life, look at your present condition.
If you want to know your future life, look at your present actions.
- Padmasambhava
I almost teared up...not joking
Who was we meant to be then?
Dennis Bryant I couldn’t agree more, I’m a first generation American, My dad is Greek, my mom is jaimaican an Irish ( ye interesting mix) I had the misfortune of growing up in the NYC foster care system in the south bronx during the 80’s an 90’s. An despite the cards stacked against me I pulled through an became successful in life.
How does Dennis Bryant not have 25k likes about his comment! (BTW my best friend growing up in West Philly was named Dennis Bryant!)
I'm a coloured from SA and apartheid stopped 26 years or so I was born in it and today I can truly say that where I'm from it's a community of victims mostly everybody just wants to blame everything on apartheid and not blame it on the fact of alchohol and drug abuse... I had to change my mentality and realise I'm the only one responsible for my achievements. Yes it was hard being in my twenties everybody having a party while I was putting my head down and working every weekend to pay for my studies... and today I dont regret anything. Actually I'm so proud of myself got a greencard and moving to your wonderful country later this year so I consider myself really blessed and grateful.
Jeanene Wilkinson ❤️❤️❤️🇿🇦
Congratulations, Jeanene! This American is happy to have you join the club!!
And we welcome you with open arms. We need more immigrants with your work ethic and less that just want to come here just for free stuff.
Congratulations. I can already see you successful in America.
Despite that you will be a coloured and immigrant person in America to start with , You have the right mindset to be successful.
Wish you all the success x
I believe playing the victim is when I blame other people for my situation. Whether I have grounds to or not. Blame makes me feel better cuz I don't have to take responsibility. So playing the victim feels better
Well when people are trying to use history and explain how that has had a problem for the people that's not playing the victim that's stating reality
The United States of America is only 243 years old so where are they getting 400 years of oppression? Slavery came from the Middle-east way before we were a nation. I grew up just ahead of the poverty line, graduated HS in '82 in Texas and saw very little of it. Now in 2020 I see people walking around angry over things that they chose to allow to keep them down. I am Spanish & Asian and have experienced some racism but chose not to let that define me. How did I do that, by being better than the rest. If my family of seven could do that why can't everyone else?
Please, please, please learn some history. Slavery began in the year, 1619 in the colony, of Virginia. The 13 colonies did not become the United States until the year 1776.
What surprises me is that if you hear people saying 400 years, why wouldn't you do a little research to find out why Blacks say this? Do you see your bias in not giving them the benefit of the doubt? Many whites are now saying that they did not know that Blacks were being brutalized by cops, yet Blacks have been saying this for years. If they were not biased against Blacks, they would have believed them without all of the cellphone videos. Because I'm sure they would have believed other whites if they were reporting that they were being brutalized.
@@loriannrichardson7644 No, I see no bias today except what the talking heads keep pumping into black communities. From 1605 to 1776, Virginia was a British colony. BTW, I liked how you conveniently sidestepped the fact that slavery was well documented as far back as 3500 BC in the regions of Mesopotamia and likely earlier. By the way, where is Mesopotamia today? Iraq, the Middle east. Who began to sell their slaves to European Nations? Fellow blacks. Sorry Loriann, I did pay a little attention during World History in the 7th grade. That is the problem when you begin to rewrite history. Instead of Googling everything, try visiting your local library. They have a whole world of verifiable history you can learn from.
They say "I'm not playing the victim" and then proceeded to play the victim.
Wow haven't seen that before 😒😤😞
We become a victim the moment we acknowledge the past and problems today and say I cant do something because or I would do this but...
Life is hard for everyone and black America is losing sight of that. We think we have it harder than everyone else when it isn't true.
lol. when he asked the question, you could tell they all were thinking "yes", they just wouldn't say it.
They brainwashed black people man. sad
“It’s impossible to accuse us of playing the victim” *immediately plays victim card*
He meant that it's impossible to accuse them of playing the victim because they ARE and Have Been the victims. They're not "playing the victim", they've literally gotten the way short end of the stick. That's what he meant.
@@timeforanythinggood that is the victim mentality. He's literally saying he wasn't born into billion dollar family so he is behind! He value life as wealth. Basically saying without wealth life is meaningless and if you think life should be based on how much you have. You'll have sad life forever.
dlckddyd76 does he think that all white people were born into wealthy families?
@@cakoll71 I doubt he thinks that , but I'm sure you know that statistically black people in America are among the poorest and least land-owning demographic
@@dlckddyd76 I think acknowledging victim-hood in the case of black communities is valid. They have to work twice as hard to make up for what they were born lacking, or not being shown as an example. Obviously dwelling in victim-hood is counterproductive, but I'm sure it's hard to ignore when it's an ongoing issue. Work needs to be done on both sides, in black communities and in the larger white American population, to support everyone and help them rise up
My dad’s mother died when he was 2 years old and was raised by an aunt in an impoverished desert border town in Mexico. At 13, my grandfather came for him, brought him to America, got him his green card, and made him work until he was 20 in California’s agricultural fields. He knew very little English, had a 5th grade education. My dad had enough and wanted to succeed. His dream was to become a big rig truck driver. He began to learn more English, got his driver’s license in 1972. By the age of 30 he got his class A license. By the age of 35, he got his first home. By the time he retired, at 66, his home was paid off and had a nice retirement fund. He faced racism in the 1960s, 70s, and even 80s, he had no other family than his estranged father in America and aunt in Mexicali, he had a language and education barrier. But that never stopped him and he never felt like a victim and NEVER made excuses.
Amen!!....life is what u make it. We all have had our share of struggles....but it’s what u do with the struggles, do we keep rehearsing the same narrative or do we rewrite it? The CHOICE is up to us....go figure 🤔
what does that have to do with taking a group of people is systemically destroying them
@@hbsupreme1499 Stop playing the victim everybody gets destroyed by the system differently not just a group.
Mexicans do not face the same level of discrimination. They are allowed to set up their own communities with their own stories. They aren't getting priced out of their own communities and they don't set Mexicans Americans homes on fire in mass numbers like they have down historically to black Americans. Your comparing apples to oranges. Mexicans even have the nerve to be racist to black Americans in California and Texas so telling someone not to play that victim while being racist to them is crazy.
@@ravenlee8221 So Hispanics had all of their successful communities bombed? And raised the rent on their homes in order to acquire their land like they do Gullah people and black people in Louisiana. They go illegally searching your kids and kidnapping them so they admit to crimes they didn't do? I don't remember that happening. A lot of you are comparing coming here at will to black Americans coming here through slavery, then forced to sharecrop like my grandparents because their land was taken by whites.
Don't play the Blame Game. No one promised YOU a rose garden. If they had, they should have told you about the thorns.
When the guy in the bottom right said, “400yr head start”, he played the victim card
and yet no one said anything about that.....
Oh, they had generational wealth......B.S.!! My grandparents didn't leave anything substantive to my parents.....& my parents won't leave anything substantive behind the children.....etc.....So again, another excuse. Not everyone has wealth handed down to them. Get a grip.
@@johndoe6940 indeed. they need to know that this isnt a race issue, but a class issue. every race or group has the poor class
He is contributing to the irony in this entire discussion! Lord, when he opened his mouth, I was like ... ughhhh
Jake Heke Good point. I wanted to add, I’m of European background and have No generational wealth! So it isn’t fair for the one gentlemen to say all whites have a head start.
@@LeGeND-12 Of course it's not. But that's is just anecdotal evidence. Overall black people weren't able to start generational wealth.
"Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery. None but ourselves can free our minds." - Bob Marley
"Have no fear for atomic energy cause none of them can stop the time"
How long shall they kill our prophets
While we stand aside and look?
We’re sick and tired of your ism schism games, died and gone to heaven in Jesus name, now you see the light, you have to stand up for your right
And that's that.
Actually, Marcus Garvey... Made famous by Bob Marley
We do not play the victim and then explains why he is a victim 😳
It’s easier to be a victim than a survivor. This lady is spot on
“Playing the victim” to me isn’t so much that you are complaining about something that didn’t happen, but rather that you are using what has happened as reasoning as to why you are not successful in life, to disregard the struggle of others as individuals or as reasoning to even victimize others.
My brother and I grew up poor, in a bad area around drugs and gangs. My brother used all this as his reasons for him remaining poor, going to jail and using drugs while I have used it all for strength to become successful running my own business. He never seen the opportunities while I seen them all around. You can’t take away our history but you can change your future.
Very well said
Nice but "because I'm black" is a know quote
I really wish there was more like you brother
@RealityHurts923 - That happens in families probably all over the world. EX: The "black sheep" ( which often is played to a "t" in living out the victim identity ) plays out which is another conversation altogether. Different temperaments, child-rearing approaches, chemical make-up, mental acuity or not, innate drive or not. And families can be rather unloving and unaccepting of the "odd one" as well. Either way, good for you for looking forward. Hope your brother's doing better.
Well said ,don't put yourself in a victim mentality .
I'm vibing with the young brother in the back and the sister with the glasses. Dudes on the front row will give you a 100 page essay for why it's not your fault. I'm constantly comparing myself to my father, grandfather, and great-grandfather. My grandfather hustled and raised seven kids and the children of a cousin of his that died. My dad grew up during segregation in the deep south. He told me when he was a kid he determined he wasn't going to be broke and looking for handouts. All these years later he is retired after working for 35 years and raising 8 kids. He did exactly what he said he was going to do. It's this exact reason that I don't play the victim. I am well aware of what my ancestors and to bring it even closer people a generation or two went through, it doesn't change what I have to do. No one owes me anything. I'm not ignoring or forgetting anything, I'm just not going to obsess over it or let it define me.
Well, actually the gentleman in the front row with the cap, is doing well. (He owns several restaurants in states in the south, and his frozen food products are in markets around the country.)
Also, I understood the panel to say that inspite of Blacks being victims of racism -- they, themselves, have persevered. But, trust me all of the panelists are successful.
YOU ARE A VERY INTELLIGENT, RIGHTEOUS MAN AND INDIVIDUAL, IF THIS WERE THE CASE WITH EVERYONE HERE AMERICA WOULD BE ALLOT FURTHER ALONG AND HAPPIER AND WAY MORE PROSPEROUS. THE PAST CAN NEVER BE CHANGED LEARN FROM IT YES, BUT MOVE FORWARD AND SHAPE THE FUTURE FOR YOURSELF TO BE BETTER, YOU CAN IF YOU WANT TO.
Timothy, you are an amazing man. The US needs more people that think like you!
You hit on something that determines success more than race: a young man with honorable male role models who demonstrate the virtues of commitment, hard work and love. I had the same in my life and I describe it as being blessed, not privileged. Now it’s up to us to pass that legacy to our kids and grandkids.
Amen Timothy! 🙌🏾🙌🏾
"I AM NOT A VICTIM BUT I WANT REPARATIONS!" smh
For ?????
@@leisaetv2142 Gibs me dats fo free
Lol for what
"Do we play the victim, I'll give a solid no"
2 minutes later..
"We are in a post traumatic state because of slavery 400 years ago"
Literally all the ones that said "no we don't play victim" spent the entire video playing victim :/
The guy in the blue shirt: Claims to not play the victim.
Also him: Proceeds to explain how he's a victim.
To his point: he says that he is a victim, yet he doesn't allow it to hold him back or color his view of society. He refuses to allow his victimization to hold him back. He refuses to "play the victim."
@Jimmy Gambino wow. The depth of your logic and intellect floor me. "Shut up stupid." Such wry wit and cutting commentary. I am obviously dealing with a major brain.
To quote a great and wise CZcams philosopher: " Shut up stupid."
@Jimmy Gambino more of that sure wit and deep intellect.
@@jasonschnur1114 😂
@BigBoy 5.56mm sorry but I found his responses with the other guy funny. I know I'll get hate but I think white privilege is a myth. Its my opinion so please dont hate on me for it
Every Black person doesn't have the same narrative. Not all of us play the victim.
Thank you! Problem is that majority play the victim
Because of racism you don't have what you are supposed to have. You are not supposed to be mistreated, there isn't supposed to be a wealth gap, black schools shouldn't be underfunded... That's not being a victim. Those things should not and never occur. So if an individual fights or speaks up against injustice they are playing a victim?
Aaron
What exactly are you suppose to have? Such an entitled statement to expect anything without earning, creating, growing nor maintaining.
There are two pains in life the pain of discipline or the pain of regret
Most do
I left the projects of Chicago in 82 , went into the service and moved my family out. Put my brother through college and got my mom her first home! I never played victim and didn’t raise my family to think like one!
The woman in red is brilliant and an inspiration to us all.
The biggest advantage a child has is a stable two parent household.
Even if not in the same household which is preferable, I see the difference in children that have 2 stable parents even if they don’t both live in the same house vs just one parent
@@lauras3666 Sure, but the problem is with bad parents. They can be apart or together, if they are not good at parenting , for whatever reason, the child is going to pay the price.
In my opinion it's not 2 parents vs one , but good parenting vs bad parenting.
@@Daniela-pr7rz Sure but you also have one good parent Vs one bad parent and that one bad parent can ruin the child no matter how hard the good parent tries.
@@kingsman428 That was my point too. If there's bad parenting, 2 parents is not an advantage. In my opinion, 1 good parent is better that 1 good and 1 bad.
2 good ones is the best.
@@Daniela-pr7rz Agreed 👍
You become a victim when you start watching other people's pockets and not your own. In the words of Malcolm X:
"Quit begging the white man to help you and help yourself."🔥🔥🔥
Malcolm X is going to be forgotten soon. Martin Luthor King Jr. will be forgotten soon. Civil war is on the horizon.
Chris Rock: "I broke down on the road, and nobody would help me. But I realized, I was sitting in my car doing nothing. I got out and helped myself, and people stopped to help me."
Amen
@@JerseySlayer Amen!
Just gotta compared yourself to the man you were yesterday, not anyone else
I am white and do not have “generational wealth”. My parents barely got by. Everything I have I had to work for. I couldn’t afford to go to school without loans. I do believe slavery is an abomination in our history but I hope that someday we are able to move past it’s effects on our society
You realize their stuff after slavery furthermore a lot of poor whites help to push for This Racist system historically burning down economically prosperous black towns. Among support in the system of racism. Racism didn't stop at slavery. Furthermore you have black leaders killed due to the white supremacy in this country who could have United black and white poor
@@hbsupreme1499 What rights today do only white people have, that are not afforded to black people?
I canot give myself excuses when i have consistently read how slaves bought their freedom, their families freedom, bought land and started businesses. They were truly oppressed they didnt play victim and use slavery as an excuse to not fight hard and good and smart for the freedoms we enjoy right now. Unfortunately, we need more black people helping black people. Negativity spreads faster than positive unfortunately
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The guy in blue said NO, they are not playing the victim .....BUT his answer is nothing but VICTIM mentality..
Sweet ignorant irony!
Yeah he was basically saying "we aren't playing the victim. we just are victims"
I assume YOU White
@@talklesslistenmore5578 whats me being white or brown or blue have to do with it?...
@@buckhaa1502 Didn't you know? If you don't think minorities are poor helpless victims then you are white. If you're not white then you are just ignorant and not awakened to the "truth". Lol
I’m a 70 yr old grandma who went back to school at age 40 after my ex left & told me the govt could raise my kids better than he could! So I went back to school, studying with 7 kids at home. But first I played the victim for 4 years and not changin anything myself! I had to get over the anger and the pity party! Got my nursing degree & fought my way off welfare! It was hard. But I grew up poor, oldest of 10 and refused to live that way the rest of my life!
💚💜
💕
How did you pay for your nursing degree and who helped watch your kids while you were studying may I ask?
Now, that’s what I’m talking about...It maybe hard but it can be done! Congrats to you for your faith and perseverance! ...and thank u for no longer playing the victim 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👍🏽😊
You are a hardworking American. Thank you.
People, She had me in tears. I’m Filipino and I felt her response. Very powerful
Didn't get a chance to build generational wealth?! As far as I can tell we are doing pretty well for "[whites having] 400 years head start" My family has gone from dirt floors and outhouses to finished basements and 2.5 bath homes. Soooooo... over generations we have built wealth.
That’s EXACTLY what I was thinking. If white people really had a 400 year start, then black people are super humans.
that first young man has a bright mind i think his way of thinking will allow him to continue to grow. this was good to see
SAD PART ITS JUST ONE MAN IN THE ROOM, ALL THE REST LIVE THE LIE
So you just forget everything else that’s been said?
@james mac, Are you white? Just curious because I am and I automatically agreed with the same guy. Makes me wonder why I gravitated towards him? Is that racism?
Wise Guy no, the very fact that you recognize a possibility of being wrong makes it not racist.
Very well said he has the rare ability to see things as they are not as they are being portrayed...he is what we call intelligent lol
If a black person gets to the top it's because they worked harder than anyone else but if they dont get to the top it's because of racism and victimisation.
There is Morgan Freeman that says in America today racism not an issue and don't effect success. Because him and other successful black are living proof of that. Kill Wayne said he has personally never experienced rasism . And another successful black man. Just because white people are white don't mean we are all rich or successful. Or some how have more options than black or any other race for that matter in America. People need to stop opressing them self by there thoughts
We have to work just as hard as anyone. No one is free of hard work!
A lot of people in black community are not behind the Blm movement because they know they are not a victim . And know that they can do whatever they want to in life. They have said on CZcams that they are not a victim and that's what b l m means to them . Watch CZcams. Hear it from them .
@@veronicavanderver7270 A white cop saved lil Wayne's life when he was a kid, and used to visit him to check up on him. He can't stand blm
Did they or do they get promoted because they are black?
400 year head start? How would he explain foreigners coming to the US with rock bottom nothing, and within a few years might own their own successful business or be millionaires already?
I'm Nigerian American. Watching this video, and laughing. When people ask why immigrants come over and do well, this is it. The victim mentality is real and strong in the African American community. Be like those two individuals at the back. That's all I'm going to say.
Condescending
@@sthembisomthembu395 you are very much entitled to your opinion.
I very much know that. Thank you ma'am.
Exactly!!! I love Nigerians and there work ethic. They are some of the most hard working people. I respect that!!
y'all ran from your homes
Here's my example of playing the victim: Every time something negative happened to my family member they always blamed the system (ie the white man) for the negativity. Never mind that this individual consistently showed up for work late or whatever else they did wrong. Playing the victim can be blaming someone else for the bad decisions you made even though you were taught how to make good decisions.
Related to your point, my dad always said to me: "being late is 10% misfortune and 90% bad planning." Black people always focused on the 10% and refuse to address the 90%. Victimology.
@@Critic_number_4 so out of all the black people you know, what percent of them blame the "system" for their misfortunes? 🤔
I blame the system for the housing collapse in Detroit. I blame the system for mass incarceration. I don't think it was black people that flooded the streets with drugs.
I also blame the system for the water contamination in flint Michigan. A place I don't live but that stuff has long lasting effects on people.
@SJW libtard wrecker so if black people play the victim what do white people play? 🤔
Everyone plays the victim nowadays. Everyone is responsible for their own destiny. Blaming others for your own failures solves nothing.
I know, I'm a white female so this may mean nothing to anyone, but I am NOT a victim. I have had many bad things that I had no control over happen to me in my life but I refuse to be a victim. I agree each person is responsible for their own life choices.
Well put sir!
No ones going to help you other than yourself.
@@christinebuckingham2480 Excuse me for simpping. Lol.
Your words and experiences are still valid regardless of who you are. I think it depends on how you deliver your life's story to others is what matters here. Either you can be humble and accepting about it or you can simply play the victim. As the old adage goes, "We all have something to bring to the table." This is a genuine question here, but, do you feel that being a white woman gives your life's experiences little meaning to others?
@@lettuceinn9515 I should not have said it that way, for context, I had been watching way too much stuff on the new systemic racism in this country.
I really care very little about what others think about my experiences. I put them out there and they will either make someone think or not.
They act like they are owned something, they need to know they're not the only race that has it hard.
We do not. We just want fairness. No one has said that we are owed anything. Get your facts straight.
@@chloegithinji6649 How are you not getting fairness? What can asians, whites, latinos do that you blacks cannot??
keemoify first of all because we access to the same things every other race doesn't mean we receive them at the same rate. Black people have to work three times as hard as their white counterparts and we still don't get the job. Because some powerful people still have a racist mindset and because of false stereotypes we don't get the basic things we need, like jobs and healthcare. We can NEVER play the victim.
@@chloegithinji6649 Asians are also a minority, but still has more wealth then whites in America...
keemoify we aren't talking about Asians. Were talking about black people. Although Asians were oppressed by other Asians, black people were oppressed by white people who made it difficult for us to simply live our lives. And if we stay on topic, black people have never said we are owed anything. We just try live our lives but we can't because white people still make it difficult. And that is not playing the victim.
Honestly, I believe that everyone should move on about slavery in the USA. There's slavery going on in other places to this day, yet people here in the USA wanna cling to the past as if that'll help them out. Especially people who haven't even experienced it. We had a black man as president for two terms.
No we didn't. You are ignorant if you think slavery has ended in America.
@@DH-uw3us No, I think you're the ignorant one to think that slavery is still happening in America, it is now illegal. And Barak Obama was black.
Yes WE PLAY THE VICTIM and the media hammers everyday how victimized we are. Explain to me how people from other countries, other races come to America and work on their dreams
Exactly... Look at Nigerians. We're black and yet we flourish
Because they are not born here black people. They a lot of times come here from rich origins in Nigeria etc. Black people born in America have been systematically conditioned to stay in their place. Yes, some overcome that but a lot don’t. I mean honestly black people not too long ago got the equal right to vote without some discriminatory stipulations.
Facts! Thank you. They overlook the fact that Obama and other former administrations enacted policies to ensure immigrants opportunities while born Black American proffered absolutely nothing. I look at a lot of the comments and, no doubt, most speak without knowledge of true history and facts. They're watching too much tv (aka the idiot box.)
@@crossnetworkllc But people are talking about systemic RACISM, so you are set back because of your race. How could there be disparities in success if it was all racial and not cultural?
@@MMMMecca facts or actions??! You're handicapping a whole race for generations, and is everyone's fault??? TV is a problem, true, watching what athletes wear so go stand in line for hours to pay for some Jordan's, or choose to sell drugs to purchase cars and jewelry, looking up to rappers but not looking to be a leader and take the difficult path and WORK without quitting or excuses. Smh
If our ancestors were able to build black Wall Street, during a time where racism was more blatant than it is today. What is stopping us from following in their footsteps 🤷🏾♂️.
Victimhood mindset, promoted by liberals.
And what happened to black Wall Street? It was destroyed in a race riot and no restitution was made.
It was destroyed
@@innerpowerup The point is that black people were successful
J Horne My point is that there is a narrative that the major factor of our current situation is we have a victim mentality. It’s not as black and white as that. As you said we were entrepreneurs and business owners, we were also the targets of lynchings for being business owners and voters. We were also landowners but then we integrated and our progress was lost to the pages of history.
We absolutely do play the victim. Sitting around and complaining won't solve anything.
Victim mentality sucks away a person's motivation to work hard. Nothing can be done to change history. The only option is to do your best and give 100%.
Playing the victim is when EVERY TIME something negative happens in your life, you blame someone or something else. Look around and see the truth, accept responsibility or you’ll always be a victim.
Yes negative things often happen, to teach us valuable life lessons. Like we go through bad relationships, so that we learn to appreciate the good ones.
People generalize an act by a small group to the entire spectrum.
8:00 “I can never agree that it’s on us to fix the mistakes of others”... so why are people asking for reparations from people who have never had slaves to people who have never been slaves?
GOOD QUESTION!
Things that make you go hm...
Literally my first thought...
Quick answer. Bcuz some white families benefit to this day from the first stock market, which was human capital lol Duh
@@nobimantis9 Well using that logic then no one should get anything but the Native Americans until we can prove who the very first people were of this land and what is owed to them.
I have been trying to find this conversation for a while now. I agree with her 100%!!!! What I heard her say is that just because you were victimized DOES NOT MEAN, you now have to BE the victim. My Father used to say that ALL THE TIME, "I ain't raising no victims." I understand that now more than ever. To live in that mentality and operate by that mentality is what keeps the black community from taking countries to economic war and instead keeps us begging for justice from the SAME folks who victimized us in the first place. We've stayed in this role way too long! They are comfortable with us being here. Why are we????
As an Asian male, I worked hard to get into a top 20 university. Is the system unfair where I need to score higher on the SAT or get good grades? Yes, but my response was not to complain or protest.
@Ashley M very true, I am not saying you have to deal with it like me, but I will say that Asian males are the highest earning demographic in America. I will leave it at that.
@@michaelcheng4985 ever consider that there is a genetic component at play? East and south Asians have higher average iq’s than blacks and whites.
"You can be a succesful black american and still be looked down on elsewhere" yea tht statement goes for every race. The world is big....
Really? Does it really go for every race...
@@ToFester Yes, there are plenty of people who don't like Jewish people by default whether they are successful or not. Some people don't like Asians. Despite what you see in the media, racism isn't something only black people experience.
Lol. If you dont know u hvnt travelled enough or lived in different environments, as in 'travel, experience and live' not pampered holidays.
titaniumonkey exactly, a lot of English people hate (polish people) even though they are “white”. They hate them because they are apparently ‘stealing their jobs’ . I’ve even come across some black Caribbean’s who think that as well.
A lot of people discriminate Gypsies, Irish travelers,Romanians...etc
Okay, then it goes for every race...
It's interesting when people talk about generational wealth. Asians have the highest average income in the USA.
Right? And i know plenty of white people who have zero generational wealth.
100%
Indians have the highest earnings in the UK and Bangladeshi and Pakistani have the lowest. All were part of India before it split in 1920 & 1960 - If you looked at these people they look similar. Why is it that some groups do better? Answer - Culture.
and Nigerians makes more in USA that most USA blacks lol
And recent Hispanic immigrants that came here with zero wealth. Nothing but the clothes on your back and now are home owners, business owners, kids in college etc.
I love how everyone is listening to each other in this conversation. This is truly a dialogue.
This is so well educated, so civilized, so beautiful and so high class. Thanks for so much more than common sense.
Back row: top left gentleman, and lady next to him, you 2 brought tears to my eyes! God bless you both! I can only hope there’s more people of your perspective, grace and wisdom on this earth❤️
@Conrad Kujur just bay saying you are not black u discreditted yourself. What does it matter what race you are genius, words are words
I appreciate hearing this discussion. Something that may help is understanding that the 100 Rich White families that have "Generational Wealth" do not represent the 100,000,000 white middle class families that have no generational wealth. For the vast, vast majority, there is no generational wealth, no power, no "easy squeezie" life of luxury.
There you have it. Everyone can contribute but is is made more difficult with the wealth is distributed to eliminate citizens from the process.
Everyone can contribute but the way wealth is distributed leaves too many to be eliminated from the process without justification.
@@rogerdorsey7823 Greed is definitely a problem, but *ALL* people are greedy. Some are just more effective and feeding and satisfying their greed. Socialists, Communists, Marxists, and Progressives are just as greedy, and when they rule, their corruption is also Governmentally enforced.
In reality, this is all what the Bible has foretold the 'end' would look like, with a One World Government demanding absolute obedience or relegating deniers to death. There is nothing new under the sun. The fascinating thing is to watch it unfolding in real-time, not postulating it 100s or Dozens of years in the future.
@@rogerdorsey7823 the way wealth is distributed? Eliminated? What process? It all seems a little vague. Wealth is not solely "distributed" it is also exchanged+earned. Shrink the gov if u want more wealth, more importantly deal wisely with ur wealth. Not everyone who is rich fell into $$$ many earned it the hard way.
More like 30 percent transfer generational wealth...significant
The moment the black guy in the blue shirt brought up the 400+ years of oppression is when I knew he is a victim of playing the victim card
question: are you a victim?
answer: for 400 years blah blah blah
me:lol
everyone, at some point in history, has been victimized.
@LoyalT1987 they were not even alive in the 60's. They were all born post civil rights movement, there's no reason they don't do better, except the cultural one they have in their communities.
@90 lemme ask you cousin. when will we ever get past it? i cant even post a reply to you cause your viewpoint supports maintaining dissension. so what does every person you feel victimized you have to do to make you feel something positive and move on?tell me i really wanna know
@90 im curious why dont you just move back to wherever you come from you dont sound happy here.
@90 nah im making coffee and trying to think of a way to explain to you how ignorant you sound in a way that wont offend you. gimme a sec
Top left. The youngest is the realest, and even he's not even 100% there yet.
Trentsum, my observation as well. Matter of fact, in each of these "discussion" videos, the young man on the left is coming forth with more wisdom and a display of amazing maturation, as well as speaking truth more so than the others. Moreover, he's speaking on a level that all can clearly understand. Bravo, to him!
I'll agree that Blacks can play the victim If any of you can tell me the date or year when racism stopped in America?
@@electric8668 The two are not exclusive. Some racism exists in America amongst all the different ethnicities. All land has been taken by force of the strong over the weak. All races of people have been enslaved at some point in their history. Blacks love their victimhood mentality more than the rest of us.
@@Trentsum You failed to give me the date racism stopped in America. You say all groups have been enslaved at some point. Possibly. But the discussion is about one group and one group only. Blacks, so let's stay on topic. Name all the groups the American South fought the civil war to keep in slavery?
@@Trentsum Where you at? Facts got your tongue?
she said and i quote!!!" instead of focusing on what happened to us, focus on what happened for us" powerful!!
Wth does that even mean tho?
Have more things been done for Blacks or against Blacks? Which has the bigger impact?
Or folly?
@@CephlonMayngrum Black people died for the right to vote ... I as a black man do not even bother to vote , listening to my people talk here has made me ashamed of myself because I can do more but I choose to stay in the same place...
Booker T Washington said before we bring over people from foreign lands who speak foreign tongues hire my people first. Now he would be called a anti immigrant or bigot
Most definitely black people have that mindset, and feel like they're owed something.
The phrase/concept of "playing the victim" is a clear gaslighting tactic to avoid accountability for abuse.
"so my dad raises me saying don't work for the white man" . congrats sir, your dad raised you racist.
later edit : please debate peacefully if you comment. respect goes a long way.
while i agree the context is different to why he worded it like that to his son, i firmly believe black parents should raise their kids to work equally respectful with anyone , whatever their skin. Perpetuating stereotypes will never bring a positive change. both parties have to make efforts equally.
While he accuses white people of being systemically racist lol. Gotta love that lack of self awareness. Social media is full of them today in fact.
where in that phrase do you see him belittling whites or make blacks seem far more superior against whites because of skin color???? he was raising him to be an entrepreneur and yeah the white man part wasn’t necessary but hey what’s said is said
@@josephcancino2042 when you keep saying you want equality with all types of people, you teach your kids to work with all types of people. Singling out "white men" as a no no, teaches the kid they're bad from the get go. Parents should teach and raise their kids to be better than themselves. It's now you get to equality and peace. Can't fight racism with racism.
“White man” in this context means any man other than yourself-most poignantly-corporations ran by white men. Black people utilize colloquial language in intimate settings and it can come across as bigoted and harsh, but it truly isn’t. Hope that helps you draw a more rounded observation.
@@Seeingisntbelieving yeaaaaaahh don't use it. period. if you know it's very often missinterpreted, stop using it. basic logic.
When you spend generations to generations to complained about slavery you won’t change anything.
So are u saying we should just forget about slavery. Just act like it never happened! Thats what happened to the african religion! Happening to our music, and our cusine! So u saying just forget about black heritage and culture! Just make the black folks extinct. Basically that's what ur saying! Thats exzactly what they want to do! Wipe it under the rug, and move on!!!
Patrick Ryan Ummmm what??? You must be Caucasian....not that there’s anything wrong with being Caucasian but simplifying and ignoring the pathology of African Americans and compartmentalizing their history sounds about white....Asians and Irish “slavery” can not be compared to the enslavement of Black people. Not even close.
themailman43 LoL, that sounds like the perfect fairytale.
@@reneejohnson9256 im from georgia(County)for few centuries, there was slavery, my ppl got sold by persians and arabs, but i have not right to play vicitim, and will not ever, i have not right to go to first iranians and said that he are one who have to get blamed🤷♂️. slavery was all around globe u have to just move. btw sry English is my second language so maby i write inaccurate
@@momof2240 Asians have to deal with other types of inequalities...Asians are less likely to get into a good college I mean look at what UC did a few weeks ago. Obviously, slavery is way worse than not getting into a school but you don't see Asians complaining all day long right. I'm not saying we should just accept it and move on but complaining about the past isn't going to change anything for you or others. If you want to change then say it, say what you want to see that changes, but saying "we are oppressed" over and over again is not making a difference.
I am black myself, and I hate the fact the community continues to victimize themselves, why do we still beg for ourselves to be oppressed. It makes our generation look ignorant asl. Worry about your life and goals and better yourself!
This is a really great video. This is how we are supposed to be. Communicating. Not the media spewing hate and promoting violence. Thank you for sharing. Much love
Go back far enough in history and everyone is a victim
WW2 is allot closer then ending slavery, I hear 0 Euporean ppl crying that has any effect on them today.. (Im from the Netherlans)
@@broodjebalknakworst1963 Were they discriminated against after fighting for the rights of foreigners, only to return home and be denied those same rights in their own country.
@@loriannrichardson7644 we are talking about being a victim of another.
Besides that Im pretty sure that most discrimination claim are unjustified, how often I see ppl claim discrimination while it is another reason.
@@broodjebalknakworst1963 Your problem is you have already made up your mind, so that even if a racist incident were to occur before you, you would not see it as such. In the US, I have only to turn on the news to see Blacks murdered by cops, and accosted and detained by whites who think that their white privilege grants them the right. The difference now is that cell phone videos now capture the racism Black Americans have been experiencing for years since they were "freed."
Also, I'm certain that if you ask the Jews if the events of WW2 continues to impact their lives in some way, I'm certain you will get a YES!
@@loriannrichardson7644 Im brown myself (Indonisian) I dont agree at all, I see white ppl have the same problems I have.
My brother us a officer here, he often get called a racist for stopping for examle a muslim, while in fact he cant cant even see the person in the car while perfoming the actionn
A victim would always find another exuse to be a victim
It's all about transferring resources from one group to another. If the Government didn't have the power to do this then they wouldn't be complaining - they would just get on with their life
As the saying goes, “it takes a village to raise a child.” The village that I come from was a deranged one but the one I am in now has helped me heal. I am thriving as a successful college grad (1st generation) and I am an entrepreneur (1st generation) this life I’ve been given us an up hill Blessing but it’s far from what it was for my ancestors and my kids will know that I led an example so that they could be better off than I was. I remember my grandmother expressing her gratitude to God that I didn’t have to suffer those and struggles, hate and fears like she did as a black girl from Mississippi during Jim Crow Control...
I'm sick of the media victimizing black people & encouraging it - I call this out in the last video on my channel, a news parody. I encourage people to check it out & reflect deeply about news messaging. I appreciate this video exploring this topic.
If you're too focused on looking backwards while you're trying to walk forwards you're gonna walk into a pole.
Or fall into a hole...
Or get bit by a mole
Or stub your toe.
Meanwhile a car runs you over from behind.
Well don't walk until you've learned what's behind you. The past helps us to understand the present and navigate the future.
"We were slaves" doesn't matter, "systematic oppression" no difference. You can't live in the past and let past injustice oppress you in the present
@Desirea Winton sure, there may always be work to do for as long as humans are on this earth because true equality is impossible due to biology. We are equal. As far as the law is concerned everybody is equal, the "work that needs to be done" that you refer to is subtleties, individual prejudice and perhaps biological prejudices. This depends on other people to change, not us; we can only do our best and try to improve ourselves, our families, our communities. Perhaps it will take more work for a black family to rise up out of poverty? Better get to work to give your kids a better ride, that's how you break the cycle. No one owes you anything, complaining about injustice that someone ELSE has to fix is useless and personally destructive. The victimhood mentality is the direct OPPOSITE of taking responsibility. The world changes for the better as it has been and as it will continue to. Past injustices were because the state didn't give us a fair chance, current injustices are individuals there is a huge difference. Now is the time that we are no longer victims, if we did everything right and still fail, perhaps complaint is in order but when I hear people complain unprompted about racism, normally it mean's they haven't even started trying.
Slavery was abolished in 1865.
South Korea got independence in 1950
India in 1947
Israel in 1948
Nigeria in 1960
They got freedom and asked what should I achieve next.
You got freedom and ask what’s my prize. Hint: it’s freedom ...use it.
@@rayr4593 what about jim crow and segregation and color laws or forget that it has happened we got a semblance of freedom in the 1960's and late at that get some history some context and stop regurgitating BS
@@stsk7 guess blinders work for some we are equal. Please
@@terejosh13 what do you mean this doesn't make sense
How am I a victim of being black when it's my blackness that makes me great? That lady in red dropped every mic
Victim Mentality. Nothing holds somebody back more than seeing themselves as a victim. It allows them to see themselves as not being responsible, it’s somebody else’s fault! The victim sees no hope in improving the situation, how can things get better if someone is holding them back? This causes anger and frustration. This is how too many people see themselves, so much so that their victim status becomes their primary focus and they seek ideologies that support their outlook. Unfortunately there are many agencies willing to promote this victimhood. Contemporary Culture, uneducated parents, leftist media, schools and Universities, all are often too willing to reinforce it!
People: Learn from the past: live in the present and move with a plan to the future! Simple as that!
We do.
@@outerspacedev Then what's the problem?
Plan for the future meaning to take responsibility and accountability something that some blk people can't take
@@daniellefields9354 Yea, there are people from every race that don't want to take responsibility
Excellent. You only have one life, make it the best. Don't let others control it.
These victims need some Jordan Peterson and less breakfast Club
Thomas Sowell wouldn't hurt.
Larry King would be another great voice.
Study the actual works of the late and Great MLK.
Maya Angelou has so many inspiring messages that the cliff notes will never truly encapsulate, you really have to stop and give her words some thought.
Candace Owens, though still a bit rough around the edges, is definitely growing into her own - I hope she takes that bitterness off her tongue so her own people will listen, but she's being herself.
I mean, any voice that pushes for a stronger community and stronger family would be a voice that should be respected in the black community.
Maybe that's just because I'm culturally hispanic and looking into the problems rather than living them myself and seeing out.
I'm sure the tension of someone trying to save a drowning man is not the same as the stress of the man drowning.
My only true concern is that I don't want to be pulled into the water for my trouble, I want to get others out and safe from drowning in the first place!
For real
@@ghostflames1501 Respect
@@ghostflames1501 You wrote Larry King....Don't you mean Larry Elder?
jordan peterson is a conservative white boy
I think respectful conversations like these are healing.
This just proves that EVERYONE can make it. Seems all these people had rough upbringings. They all worked hard and they all made it. Everyone can feel they were the victim of some sort of injustice. The ones that let go of the feeling of being a victim or used that feeling to help push them further are the ones that make it in life. Doesn't matter your skin color...
@Ethan Elston You still playing the victim.? Sad..
When a black person starts narrating century old race issues and atrocities, for sure the next lines would be making an excuse for playing the victim.
I am also able to cite historical facts since some people like to blur history for those who aren't paying attention and still don't feel like a victim. It's not hard.
I would like to know from blacks who got stuck in the past, trying to make people today pay for all the atrocities, What did blacks went through that Asians did not go through?
@@bluemarlin2004 Not sure what you mean by stuck in the past. During what period in time do you think that there were no civil injustices perpetrated towards black Americans and the collective community should have "gotten over it" so to speak?
@@R0bstar-YT Let me pass the question back to you. What part of black history can justify hating white people or Asian people today?
We don't hate you. We just want an equitable share of society. You better be glad thats all we want and not revenge.
I think they got close but never really defined it well. I’d say playing the victim is about what you do with an injustice, whether real or perceived. Some people will use it to limit what they think is possible. Some people will milk it to gain an advantage.
Very well said👌🏾
I agree
Well said indeed, Bereket. If I may, I shall add the opposite of “playing the victim.” Some people will explicitly acknowledge injustice (real or perceived) and while never denying it they continue undeterred in their determination to focus their energy on the control they have to succeed.
this is a perfect statement.
What if it's an injustice you can't avoid nor can you do anything about?
I love what the 3 Christians in this panel - that were outspoken on their faith said - racism is real but you don't have to let colour, race, gender hold you back - fight where it exists but use system to improve yourselves. Hope for America yet.