Roofing Warranties Explained by Roofing Contractor
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In this video, Dmitry discusses everything the homeowner should know about roofing warranties, including whether roofing warranties are worth it, reading the fine print, communicating with your contractor, and why you should rely on the product and not the warranty. If you're in the market for a new roof, make sure you watch this video!
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Good video. I’m not a big believer in warranties. Doesn’t take much to void a warranty. Could be something like nailing too high . Just pick a good shingle and good contractor you should be able to get 20 to 25 years. The organic fibre shingles of the past failed after only 12 years.
You're right. I always expect 20 years.
Very true
So true, nobody is going to stand behind their warranties, they will find some type of unbelievable reason not to cover it, ive heard the nail was off a little WTF, so really you're on your own, nothing is built to last now days.
@@polofunk Atlas does, reason we use them above all others. Rep will have us fix it asap and pay for it
i feel the same way ,warranties are almost pointless ,it always end in the blame game
Owens corning has always taken care of me , and I don't even use them exclusively. Just last week we had a problem with them while installing them . My employee called the rep and he drove 45 min to the job the same day and replaced all 50 squares and is paying my guys for the time they lost . He did this with no hesitation
What turned out to be the problem?
Key words "reasonable expectations"... Everything this guy said is true to my knowledge(as a roofer / construction enthusiasts) . Home owners need to watch this video.
Thank you
I watched the video from the start to the finish. You have a Lotta good information in there I appreciate you sharing
This is your best video yet Dmitry!!
+Peaks & Plateaus Roofing thank you! I think next Thursday comes the best one yet...
That’s a great video! Thanks for shedding some light on this subject.
Great video Dimitri and I do have to say that I agree with you 100 percent on warranties and on the lifespan of the shingles. I am a roofing contractor and I'm a Malarkey guy, honestly I think it's the best shingle in every way, but of course that's my opinion I'm sure other contractors have their own opinion.
Awesome analysis! Thank you for giving your valuable experience to the general public.
Thank you so much for your video. I just got a quote from a contractor and he discussed about the 50 years warranty from Owens Corning. I have clay tile roof. Per Owens Corning requirements, must use 4 components, but the contractor said that since he will be installing the UDL-50 by Owens Corning my roof is eligible for the 50 years and 10 year labor warranty. I like your analogy on McDonald...have to buy french fries with the hamburger :) Thanks!
just had this happen. certainteed denied a landmark claim, 12yrs old. dried out, no adhesion. rain storm came and soaked the deck. full tear off, all new plywood. malarkey legacy on this time. certainteed denied my claim and said the shingle i sent in was "fine" i guess fine means it can't even stand up to 30mph wind /rain without compromising the house. the installer i used this time is actually a certified certainteed installer and isn't using their product anymore. they have moved to malarkey
Great info. I think your numbers are right on. On the coast in North Carolina, roofs are worn out in 15-20 years.
Thank you for pointing out the CONS of a manufacture's warranty. I'm going to have my roof replaced next week. My roofer only offers a 7-year labor warranty. The main reason I want to purchase Owens Corning Preferred Extended Warranty because it includes a 10-year workmanship coverage for I'm unsure whether the roofer will still be in business in the next 7 years. Other than that, I take the OC warranty with a grain of salt. I've never bought an extra guarantee for anything, except for the roof and foundation of my home.
Wow, so much to think about here. Killer info 🔥
Have you seen the Roof Maxx product? I've seen the tests, and actual shingles that have been treated with the product, and it's pretty amazing the difference that you see and feel in the shingles after treatment.
very informative...thank you
Dmitry, we hear you. While we have the longest out-of-the-box non-prorated
period, and the longest non-prorated period for multi-family, you’ve pointed out that there is room for improvement. We appreciate your honest assessment and will factor it into our continuing effort to improve our products and after-sales service.
+IKO Roofing lets do tour of your plant?
@@RoofingInsights3.0 We'd love to collaborate, let's set something up! We've sent an email over to your @roofinginsights.com account. You're also welcome to reach out to us via social@iko.com. Looking forward to it!
He is correct. Once one of them said 50 years. They all had too.
He should've also expanded on non prorated verses prorated more.
Contractors have gotten in on the extended warranty lie as well ripping the homeowner off. I've seen many more contractors do shoddy work than shingles fail. Especially in blow off situations as mentioned in the video. You could have the best shingle and if it wasn't installed right. That voids any warranty or makes the shingle fail sooner than expected. There are so many factors in making sure its installed right.
Atlas shingles are junk. They may have some upper tier versions but their base shingles are junk, same with IKO. They both offer slightly better warranties because they have to. Why else would you buy a Hyundai? Because of the 100,000 mile warranty right? The best of the base dimensional shingle is hands down Certainteed Landmark.
Pay the extra money for it.
Contractors will generally push Atlas and IKO because they're cheaper at the local supply house than Certainteed, GAF, or Owen's Corning, putting more money in their pockets without the homeowner knowing. Most people dont know anything about roofing materials. I would suggest any homeowner to educate themselves and not let the contractor dictate what materials they should use unless you did the research beforehand. Learn how the components actually work together on your roof. Improper ventilation will also void a warranty and is a major cause of why shingles fail.
As with any business, roofing supply houses stock materials that are cheaper for contractors to have a choice. It's how they stay in business and they dont give a shit about the homeowner. Their point of sale is towards the contractor only, rendering them not liable in all but a few situations.
Great video. You should do a video on extended warranties, and your thoughts/insights on things like the 4-Star warranty from Certainteed, that offer 50 year NON-prorated warranty.
Will do!
I like how you are cutting through the BS. I did a video a while back about atlas and Certainteed warranties and I’m still impressed with them. GAF has a ton of exclusions in their master elite warranty and sometimes it’s hard to teach a consumer that even though the salesman sounds convincing, doesn’t mean that the warranty is actually that good.
Keep on educating brother!
+Restoration Roofing thank you!!! Post a link to your video here!
amen
I was one of those salesman, I was young and dumb and thought the money would be good. A lot of these companies such as power remodeling and the one I worked for would makes us go on and on for 2 hours at homeowners houses with a script that our Gaf timberline hd shingle is the best shingle in the world especially with our 50 year “lifetime” warranty that covers wind and leaks and all the this and that which was complete BS. We would charge 750 per square and saying we install them yet it was a subcontractor. I noticed later on I wasn’t making any money as a salesman using my own car to go all over and BSing the customer and left that place. Sleezy salesman are still out there over charging and putting ppl in debt with these roofs that a reputable local roofing contractor can install for a better price and backs there warranty.
I see you are loyal to the O.C. Me too. Did a spanish red supreme roof 3 years ago, homeowner noticed color variations, so i filed a claim for him, and O.C. cut a check for the entire cost to re-roof his home. Materials AND labor.
What about warranty process? I’ve had a terrible time with a lot of warranty processing and OC won’t allow the contractor to do any warranty paper work and makes the homeowner do all of it, they even tried to make the home owner pull off two shingle to send to them. Do you have any videos of warranty process! BTW love your videos , great way to show homeowners on who to trust when getting a new roof
Does the type of OC warranty dictate what materials are used in installing? For instance, I asked the roofing contractor to change from Platinum to Preferred warranty and they said the ice and water barrier will be excluded in Preferred roofing system. Does it sound right?
Does Owens Corning do well with their 50 year warranty or do they try and wiggle out of it?
Quality contractors who install quality products. That's how you get the most for your money. Hire local guys who stand behind their workmanship because they have to when they call their place of business home. Just because one part of the country has issues with a certain shingle doesn't mean you will. Every plant manufactures shingles with a little different recipe which can sometimes lead to a defect that effects just one region.
good solid points, thanks for feedback!
Interesting. Do manufacturers ever mention the type of region they are suited for? Thanks, David
@@RooferNews I've never had a manufacturer rep mention anything about a shingle being better or worse for a certain region. Shingle manufacturers have plants set up all over the country. It keeps shipping costs down to allow retailers to cycle their inventory better. What happens though is raw goods are sometimes different region to region. This greatly affects color. Occasionally a single plant might purchase some bad raw goods, i.e. asphalt, fiberglass strands, ceramic granules etc. Or for a shingle plant to have an equipment malfunction. If those bad shingles get out and get installed, you have a regional defect that can cause rumors about quality to surface. Only a single plant was affected, a single production run. On the whole, shingles from that manufacturer in the rest of the country are still delivering on advertised quality. It only takes class action by homeowners for an instance like this to tarnish a shingle manufacturers reputation.
@@andrewquinn7113 Thanks Andrew for the great explanation. That's interesting about the regional materials and class action suits. Did you used to work for a manufacturer?
Correct, quality shingle, use the shingle makers full system to get the warranty. No high or low nailing etc, also certified by the shingle maker to install the shingle.
Thanks very much! You answered all of my questions! I was wondering if using an iko certified contractor was worth the cost to get the extended warranty. Now I think I'm going with certainteed or Owens Corning
It also sounds like you have to jump through major hoops to qualify for the warranty claim if something arises
Yes! It’s worth it!
I had never noticed that Danny Devito calls the odometer a speedometer. Love the video though.
What is that on the wall beside you?
I install in North Dakota and no one expects a roof to last more than 15 years. Hail storms are a normal thing and it shows in homeowners insurance rates.
I am looking at a roofmaxx.com contractor to treat my existing roof as an alternative. The local roofer has offered it and it does save me $$$
Perfectly stated here
Owens Corner duration is all I use. If they have the color available.
Time for a video about re-roofing over existing ice and water shield. Manufacturers fine print says shingles need to be installed on a clean deck with everything removed. No roofer I've talked to does that unless the decking is compromised. So is the warranty void immediately if all that decking underneath the IWS is not replaced if it cannot be peeled off?
very interested point, only roofer could talk about, thanks for sharing!
@@RoofingInsights3.0 all you do is 1) make sure the nails are out or down, then put new I&W over the old. easy peasy.
Here in Florida most roofs fail around 12-16 years. Florida's a rough state for a roof. Shingles are no good in Florida, Metals getting popular, I believe Tile's the best roof in florida you do see those actually last 25-35 years.
After watching your videos I chose in Los Angeles to use Owens corning however the license contractor is only giving me a five-year labor warranty is that normal
Yes a five year warranty on labor is normal but your roof will last way longer
I appreciate the valuable information, as I am in the process of getting my roof replaced. I’ve had about 5-6 different companies give me a quote and it’s easy to get wrapped up in the promises they each make. The company we chose uses CertainTeed, 50 year warranty on labor and material.
Does anyone know if the labor warranty is the same as the workmanship warranty? I assume it is but I don’t know for sure. The company we hired said labor and workmanship are the same thing, as they are only guaranteeing labor and material (not workmanship).
I live in Maryland.
That is an excellent question I am bummed out that he did not answer you. I’m in the process of making that decision right now
@@dcwatashi good luck! 👍🏼
@@zulmav.8497 thanks. I’m actually now been reminded to print out the warranty for the malarkey shingles and read through it oh what joy better make a full pot of coffee
Like your series of videos. I'm in the process of getting a new roof on the house and have a contractor offering me CT XT with base price $11k ish but then upgrade to GAF Timberline HDZ but then another upgrade to CT Landmark Class 4. GAF upgrade about $950 vs LandMark $2300 ish. Thoughts?
What did you end up doing?
Wish you would've got an answer from Dimitri
How makes gaf Timberline HD? Every roofer we have spoken with only quotes GAF shingles, nothing else. Also considering metal but I have heard good and bad about metal as well.
Steven Myers We are a GAF Master Elite. We can offer 25 year workmanship warranty of our installation, so long we do what he said, install the appropriate accessories. I agree 100% with his statement, just because the paper says they have the best warranty, doesn’t make them the best shingles.
The elk / gaf roof was installed in 2007. Guess what? The roof started to have black streaks north side on the 9th year of its 10th year warranty for algae etc. Read the fine print and realized that it wasn't the worth the paper that it was written on. Here in FL.
After watching your videos I decided on my home in Los Angeles to choose Owens Corning “ duration cool “ 30 year shingles. However the licensed contractor is giving me a labor warranty of five years. Is that acceptable?
I put the 50 year Duration cool in N.J., OC listed preferred installer, roofer gave 20 year warranty no leak, on top of the OC 50 year. Guy family been in business since the 1950's
The reason why they upped the warranties because insurance companies started to prorate the roof. So when you go to lifetime then insurance companies were doing full replacement
The fine print is key. It's good to know that IKO only covers $40. Thanks!
Roofer News Sounds good enough for a dog house.
@@BusinessEtiquettes That's funny. Although I've seen some luxurious dog houses. Take care, David
Roofer News this is false, IKO offers a 15year 100% material and labor coverage.
@@jeffreylogan5924 Thanks for the clarification.😎👍 How long have you been roofing?
No need for 50 year warranty in MN... Hail storms will come through way more often than that...
What about the high use of cheap steel flashing on over 90% of roof shingle installations, that will often fail before the lowest 25 year shingle, and voids the warranty? Aluminum gutter coil can be used to make flashing, which is thicker, lighter, easier to cut and nail through, and will not rust, even if the paint surface fails. Also, their cut off scrap would be worth over 10X per pound at the scrap yard. Steel and aluminum gutter coil is the same cost per square foot, so it is not even more expensive.
I thought I posted a comment yesterday but can't seem to find it. What I would really appreciate is if you could explain why OC, GAF, CertainTeed, Atlas, IKO, BP, and God knows who else, have all had class action lawsuits against them. They all settle, make the lawyers super rich, the homeowners get pennies on the dollar, and the companies never admit they sold a defective product. I get it that there are poor installs with poorer ventilation but these companies have other lines that were not included in the suits, which tells me they do have products that can better survive poor installs and poor ventilation. I've read plenty of homeowners horror stories regarding how these companies will not back up their warranty. Warranties seem useless. I think you need to know a person in the QC department that can tell you what lines to stay away from.While I'm ranting, wouldn't it be great if the installers could educate the homeowner wrt ventilation. Why not provide a ventilation assessment and if a home requires more ventilation, add a line item in the contract that gives the home owner an option to include it. If they don't, then the home owner should accept the possibility that their shingles may fail prematurely. Human nature being what it is, maybe the town inspector needs to perform a roof ventilation inspection before the installer can start the job. That means they may have to go into the attic and identify any problems with insulation blocking air flow.
We replied on other comment
It was on flex shingle video
So after 8 years my roof shingle started to fail. The wind can get to 50 MPH in gusts here and there was tabs breaking off and I lost a 12 ft section of caps from the ridge on the windward side. These were supposed to be IKO 25 year shingles. Talked to IKO and was asked a few questions. Who was the installer. Did not know as I was second owner of house. How many nails were used to attach these shingles to the roof. 4 was the answer. EHHH wrong answer. The shingles I used to temporary replace the caps were IKO as they were available from a local building supply. I read the fine print for installation and IKO needs 6 nails per shingle to satisfy their warranty. Even though the tabs were failing not the main shingle and the nails pulled through the caps leaving the nails behind. IKO denied warranty after 8 years. Replaced roof with interlocking metal shingles for about 1.5 times the price of asphalt. I am done with asphalt.
You need more experience in better testing and your shingle analysis of what is the best. GAF has been the longest running company in America and the largest and has the best Warranty, they're Timberline HD shingle will go up against any comparable shingle in the market. They have one of the most aggressive sealants of any shingle. The SBS Malarkey Legacy shingles I think is one of the best on the market. It is rated a class 4 impact shingle.. From Algae, to larger nail zone, tampered shingles and a true per square shingle
Agree on Malarkey. If GAF is the best and they want to prove it to the roofing company, please invite them for our comparison test. We have open invitation, tons of negative feedback from installers and the only one way to find out is to compare it head to head. We can also compare warranties head to head. Thanks for comment
How do you make money? Do you own a roofing company or are you making your money on this business school I’m confused
After 50 yrs I think the company won't exist right? Even 20 yrs it is quite risky to believe the company is till there
Lol great video
Hello Dimitri, I just started a soft wash company and I offer roof cleaning and my question is roof cleaning affect the warranty on the roof?
Soft wash should be fine but if you wash granules you will affect warranty
Roofing Insights thank you for your reply, I don’t use any pressure so no granules come off the shingles.
As a sales rep, I have issues explaining our company's warranty. We are platinum roofer and really take care of our customer. They don't care about warranty until they deal with it.
Thats why home owners need to be educated up front. Many are buying in questionable "Best Shingle" but when it fails in 5 years, whats next?
@@RoofingInsights3.0 everyone I deal with is looking at price. We are literally 2x's more than our competitors because we offer the best warranties and financing. They don't seem to care in many cases.
I find it easy to show them the difference in the shingles. Take a camera with you and get photos of the defects you see. Eventually you will be able to show enough photos to your customers of the defects.
The best way to destroy the competition is to go after their materials. I had one guy tell me before "I have never had my ass handed to me before I even got to the customer. I have been selling 25 years and never had my ass handed to me like that before I even spoke".
It is so much easier to sell now than 20 years ago with tablets and laptops. I never go to a estimate and look at a roof with out something to show the customer exactly why they need roof work. At the very least I add to my collection of pictures for future sales.
Texas takes its toll on roofs! Hail, tornadoes and more hail! 👀
Licensed since 85..Workmanship should be a minimum of 10 years..Ive always stated that the workmanship is good for as long as you own the house..
Exception to Composition roofs was the Celotex “Ambassador” only available from about 1997-2000- Twenty years plus and I’m seeing NO signs of wear..Nothing like it except for the old version of Presidential TL..
by law the workmanship is only guarranteed for 2 years. After that the contractor is not liable.
10 years period!
Has anyone been able to get any customer support from GAF on a warranty claim? The ridge just failed on a one year old roof and GAF wants me to mail back the damaged shingles and ridge. Also about five pages of other fucking BS prior to even filing a claim!
Atlas blisters in florida.
Malloy Property Solutions services Maryland! Five Star company.
I think all warranties are no good like at American tire they won't even replace a tire it was supposed to be a 50.000 mile warranty the tire didn't even make it to 20 and they didn't replace it 🙄
Asphalt shingle manufacturing is relying on deceptive marketing and false hope. They prey on the hope that you the homeowner Will trust that they will hold up their end of the bargain when their poorly developed and falsely advertised product fails miserably. The manufacturer will blame the installer. The installer will blame the insurance company; the insurance company will blame the manufacturer, again they blame anybody but themselves. Meanwhile you’re left holding the bag while the rain pours into your bedroom.
eighteen is pushing it on a asphalt roof.
100,000 miles on a car is min...VW Jetta 316,00 miles never stranded, never stuck, and lots of fun, never turn in a car before 147,000 STICK manual GTI
Yep, I sold my diesel GTI with 200k plus for $10.5!
i think the real problem is not the manufacture , its the salesman of the company that makes a lot of promises for the manufacture to make the sale. meaning the salesman is either lying or missinformed
Good point
2 words, owens corning. Stop using shot brand that sure strip is everything
And this is all assuming the contractor and crew installs everything correctly :/
+harbinger808 correct.
F it capilize on the shingle manufactors mistakes install it!! Get it certified then in 30 years when it breaks down they have to pay you to come back and replace it! They will have to eat there own mistakes!!!
I was in Louisiana and the GAF Timberline HDZ with layer lock held up. So Dimitri, you have a pecurinary interest in the companies you are promoting, and its obvious. Just stop ✋
I watched the same video you did, I saw no bias. Interesting points and backed up with facts
get me a job ill fly anywhere please get me a job I have a c 39 in California
Great material, so basically a metal roof will last three times more than a shingle roof. Overseas in the home land Albania we have clay tile roofs. My familys house that has the clay tiles installed in the 1950s they are still strong have had zero leaks... shingles are pure garbage here, and clay tiles are made so expensive here no one can afford them. Overseas about 1k for a tile clay roof for a 2000sq ft house 🏠 just in materials, here the clay tiles are not even twice that price they are unaffordable craziness...
Do ypurself a favour and get owens corning
Owens Corning and Certainteed good?? HAHAHAHA. All
manufacturer’s have issues. Many experiences with Owens Corning and Certainteed not honoring warranties. GAF has been much better with honoring warranties-especially with the Systems Plus warranty.
+MATT MAYNARD hahahaha it is
Yeah if you want a shingle that has more rock dust in it than asphalt GAF is your shingle. Because rock dust is pretty much free. I like a shingle that is not brittle out of the bag so no GAF here.
I had a lot of respect for you until i saw this video. You mentioned in your video how you're are surprised how roofers don't read the warranties and clearly after seeing this video I know you don't either. If your going to point out a company's warranty make sure your read and understand the warranty before hand. You have lots of followers and thus have a responsibility to give them the correct information. Do yourself a favor and delete the video and start fresh. If you need advise on how to explain a warranty in a neutral light don't hesitate to reach out.
+Jeffrey Logan first year in business I replaced roof for elderly couple with husband on disability. Their roof was 7 years old by biggest brand. They got certificate for new shingles. Worth $800. Roof cost $7000. I have them everything at my cost because I felt horrible for them. They needed to replace leaky roof or their insurance would drop them.
Give me some pointers what I misrepresent. Not only I have seen claims but I did read all warranties and I do know what they are and what they are not.
Owners shouldn’t pay full price for 25 (or 50) year roof after 7 years.
Roofing Insights I understand we find ourselves in tough situations and feel the big companies should have a heart and make exceptions for special cases like the disabled elderly but they don’t. Props to you for for doing their roof pro bono. Unfortunately I can’t comment on that because I don’t know the brand, the product, the warranty coverage at the time of installation or the nature of the claim or what may have caused the shingle to failed. I assume that experience has sculpted your opinion of warranties or the manufacturer itself.
In your reply you mentioned 25 or 50 year shingles... I have never known such thing. As a roofer the conversations with client will shape their expectations. To tell a customer that a shingle is a 25yr or 50yr shingle is miss leading and will lead to dissatisfied customers in the long run. I know of a traditional (3 Tab) shingle and a laminated (Oakridge or timberline) shingle, performance (duration or Dynasty) shingles and so on. Each shingles should not be sold or presented by the length of the warranty especially the limited or extended warranties.
As warranties go, they are not a stipulation of the life span of the shingle and as manufacturers clearly specify in their warranties since they’ve been burnt from the wave of class action lawsuits over the past decades but rather a calculation of how much risk a company is willing to place. The reason 3 tab shingles only have a 5 year full and 25 yr prorated is not because it’s their lifespan but because when installed there’s only one layer of shingle between the deck and the environment between the key holes. The reason laminates have longer coverages is that there is alway 2-3 layers of shingle between the deck and the environment. If I lost you on that let me know in your reply and I’ll send you a visual. Now, why OC drops their full coverage from 10yr to 5 yr for all building other than single detached family homes like condos churches and so on is a mystery to me. If they don’t believe in their product enough to offer the same coverage regardless of the structure type than I won’t sell it. (You should have mentioned that in your video). While I have my opinions on GAF, at least they stepped up and changed their warranty this year so their full coverage warranty is now 10yr on any building type rather than just on single family detached homes. IKO and CRC has always been 15 yrs full with laminated regardless of building type. BP stepped up and matched in 2013. While I’m not fond of BP it still builds confidence in a product.
During the video you seemed bothered that roofer were defending Dynasty, (9:10 of your video) and thus proceeded to what can only be described as a misleading smear campaign. This portrayed you as bias and threatened by the Dynasty product. The IKO warranty booklet was displayed and Dynasty was highlighted on the limited warranty information table. You mislead your viewers to believe that IKO warranty is garbage by falsely talking about the maximum liability/ dollar limit per sq. In your reply you said you did read all the warranties ... the limited warranty applies to the lifetime limited warranty portion of the warranty, not the full coverage. Should shingle failure caused by manufacturing occur during the initial 15yr periods the client would get 100% labor and 100% material. Not a maximum of 40$ per sq as you made your viewers believe. You then used the example in the booklet which applies to traditional shingles such are the marathon Plus but lead people to believe it was an example of the dynasty warranty coverage. The maximum liability / dollars per sq applies when a homeowner request a monetary settlement due to his roof being done before the completion of the claim. So long as he used IKO to replace the roof he will receive a maximum of 40$ per sq rather than a bundle amount towards his next roof. I don’t need to tell you that only material are covered after the full protection has expired. (15yrs for IKO and 10yrs or 5yrs for OC)
So again, take down your video and start again because while we do need a warranty talk we don’t need it to be bias and dishonest.
@@jeffreylogan5924 Hello, I am going to be replacing my roof this summer. I will be getting quotes for IKO Dynasty and GAF TImberline HDZ. I have not read the warranties yet, as they are a bit confusing So you are saying IKO up to 15 years, they will cover full replacement and labour of 100%, is GAF the same or no? I am in Ontario Canada ,and I have read several complaints on both for warranty. Why I am doing my due diligence the past cpl of weeks now. Thank you, Joanne
Not worth the paper they're written on. No matter what material or manufacturer you use. Period
ALL WARRANTIES ARE JUNK THEY WILL NOT PAY PERIOD
IKO sucks period. Worst shingle out there in my area. Absolute garbage right out of the bag. They cant even take the time to make it consistent in size and shape at the plant it is made in. No pride in workmanship from them.
James P where do you live?
@@jeffreylogan5924 Northern lower Michigan. Why?
James P cause IKO’s quality is top notch where I am in the ontario Canada compared to the crap that comes up for the states like GAF, CT and OC so I wanted to know where you might be getting your shingles.
@@jeffreylogan5924 I talked to a rep. He told me some come from Canada and some from the States. I think he said Indiana but cant remember. The Bad ones came from the states.
I had a bunch of roofs where I had to send back a quarter to a third of the shingles because they were so bad. The lamination seam on some was less that 1/8" wide or about 3 mm. I could not even get the shaft of the nail into it because it was thinner than the nail.
It cost them a lot because I switched about 30 contractors to different brands. Just had to take a few shingles around and show them to the contractor.
In addition the seal down strip does not seal down. You have to high wind nail them. I do that anyway but had to extra careful that the nails were perfectly in the nail line. If one nail was out you run the risk of the shingle coming loose.
Not to mention they have one of the shortest life spans here. The shingles fall apart faster than any others that I have seen here.
James P I wonder were the American plants, regardless of company, are getting the material.
Ce n’est pas les bla bla bla de vendeur que je veux voir c’est le bardeaux sur la toiture.
Certainteed Is dog crap both the product and warranty
The cutscenes are incredibly annoying. Is this video supposed to be a comedy or instructive?
Why do you talk like that?
You mean his accent?
@@nebtheweb8885 it's a beautiful accent!
This guy seems to be anti shingle and pro metal roof ... the fact is that most roofs last 20 to 25 years if nailed and installed properly, I’ve done this work for 36 years and a good dimensional shingle will last , this video is one sided bullshit ... I’m not saying he’s wrong about the misleading warranties, but he’s wrong about thirty year shingles,
On the North Carolina coast, we get about 20 years max out of a roof. The salt air and sun reek havoc on roofs. I haven't seen a roof yet that isn't worn out in 20 years.
I would say his company is mostly an asphalt shingle company, he just tells it like it is. As we all should.
I feel like he's talking mainly about 3 Tab organic...also most the clips are 3 Tab organic. There is more to roofing then just shingles. Seems to miss that point. One big point I'd mention: ventilation.
I've just replaced OC Duration ShastaWhite.I locate in TX and the contractor is good role player.Especially they didn't applied weathershield (ice-water barrier) at eaves.When I ask them Southern States no need to apply at eaves.the only place is valley and this contractor well reviewed with Owens Corning Platinum Contractor.The only question is TX also had very harsh weathers and the contractor didn't apply ice-water barrier because we don't have ice as their respond not even water.The most important part Owens Corning must be stay their product and all states must have weatherlock shield(ice-water barrier) including eaves.They mention about Building code but I believe their marketing strategy (as meaning misinformation).The other issue is labor which 70% big factor about roof quality.The material is important but without good labor the roof will be failed.At this moment I have Platinum Protection warranty but the labors are very weak as watched while replacing the shingles.I am not roofer but I can do better install than them.As result the goverment should inspect all contractors because they use subcontractors and none of contractor no care about lifetime of roof that understand.As homeowner is my first experience but I can not trust any roof contractor at this moment.Thanks for all videos but the roofing industry is below zero.I am upset because I believe there are many people face these issues without their knowledge because warranty games,weak workmanship that will be worse.