Retired Navy Seal; instead of becoming one of MANY gun channels, decides to become THE best story teller on CZcams and I’m here for it! Thank you for doing what you do, sir.
@@DallasGraves no, I’m fine and I hope you are to. Just asking that question in a neutral tone. I am however a big fan of the 2A and I encourage you all to own suppressed, unregistered, third hole sbrs.
There was a man named Don Ritchie who was called "The Angel of the Gap", he lived near the Gap and he'd regularly talk people down from suicide attempts. He was credited with saving 160 people who were about to commit suicide at the Gap. He was made a Member of the Order of Australia for these actions. Unfortunately, Don died in 2012, the year before Renea took her life.
I hope Camilla has a terrible life and is never given a moments rest from her catfishing. My regards to the poor family that were victims to that thing
Amen! I've been single 3 years because i don't like nor want no booty calls, but rather a happy, safe and trusting relationship. To play with hearts and take advantage of others is EVIL AND LOW AND DEAD WRONG!!
biggest plot twist would be mr ballen being the instigator of those stories, much like Canal Livre... ultimatley revealing his crimes in a new video upload delivering his confession in story format... hahah ...damn... hah
I live in Melbourne and l remember this story. Absolutely horrendous. The Gap is notorious for suicides. There used to be a man that lived close to The Gap and he kept an eye open for jumpers. He saved so many lives by chatting to them until they no longer wanted to die. Awesome man that has unfortunately passed away himself.
So awesome...this man was...for being there for those in their dark despair. He was a lighthouse... with a beacon of light, arriving loyally, cutting through that lonely darkness of the lost...♡
Maybe a high wall should be put up and not just a fence and possibly with barbed wire at the top to keep people away from that area. It is so sad that people are ending their lives there😪
After hearing this for the 4th time it still breaks my heart for that girl and especially for her mother.. burying your child is a pain that never subsidies..... months, years.... decades..... it never stops hurting
@@dr.bright3081 lol no actually my best friend is named Aaron and since I met him about 25 years ago that's what he tells people when they ask his name 🤣 key and peele just made it a little more hilarious
I have officially accepted the fact that ballen has to be the story teller of our time, he just has a way with words. He could take any topic and make it worth dropping everything to listen. Thanks ballen, keeping us staring at our phones at inopportune times lol
It was actually very hard for me to follow at the beginning. I have ADHD and autism, so the hand-gesturing was a really big problem for me because it took my focus off the stories. It took 5 videos and I finally got adjusted to the rhythm and I subscribed 😅
I can't believe they can't hold the friend in the third story accountable! She manipulated that poor girl her entire life! Also how can camilla not take any personal responsibility!? This is the saddest catfish story I've ever heard.
Here in Canada that would absolutely constitute VOLUNTARY Manslaughter. And zero mitigating factors.. She would be looking at the full 15 years in supermax prison. I cannot believe the 'super liberal' Aussie government just let that one go..
With a good lawyer, maybe Criminal Negligence Causing Death... Now that I actually think on it.. Yeah, lawyers and the ever broken 'justice system'... Gotta love that system.. Makes everyone's day just effin great.. Nobody wins with Canada's backwards system... Ugh.. That Camilla though... I want to be sick thinking about this story..
The darkness in the first story was the parental alienation the ex-wife engaged in that left a man and his daughter without contact for decades. Notice MrBallen skipped right over that bit.
Lol I literally asked the screen wryly "But where is the dark? No stalkers at least?" Lol Well the dad didn't at first believe her. But that only lasted 3 seconds. 😂
It's so frightening to know there are so many evil people. Kamila should have definitely been imprisoned for this. Disgusting what these narcissists get away with
Story 3: You’re telling me that girl had a “relationship” over text for 2 YEARS, and she never ONCE wanted to meet “him” in person or call “him” on the phone?! That girl must’ve been incredibly insecure. Very sad story. That “friend” of hers is evil for what she did. It’s a crime shame she was never charged for anything.
Well she believed her best friend. Why would your best friend lie to you? Camila’s best friend set Renee up with her ex. Camila had pictures. Why would your best friend lie to you?😢
As someone who had an online relationship with a toxic guy for 6 years...yeah it's insecurity. Granted we did video call and talk on the phone and sent a decent amount of pics....the relationship could never work. He couldn't leave his country so I had to work on going to him but I had no job due to illness. He was from Venezuela and was a in the US on asylum waiting on citizenship. But when you're insecure you will take any "love" you can get. Even one's that are toxic and impossible. He tried to break up with me several times. The first because I was ill, second because I didn't want to do certain intimate things with him and the third time I broke up with after he started hating on my family and insulted me for my religion and then jut iced me out. Yeah....I security makes you do horrible things to yourself.
HEARTBREAKING!!!??? Waaaaaaay passed that. It was heartbreaking at the point where the two could never meet up. That is when I suspected/ realized that the 'best friend' was behind it. I kept hoping against hope that the 'friend' had good intentions. Sadly, it ended the way it did.
With a woman that is THAT heartless in how she treated her supposedly close friend, she must have had no remorse or guilt when her friend passed away. Pure evil
I'm brazillian and I've never heard the details of this particular story, so kudos for the great coverage! these exploitative and shocking crime shows are really a thing people watch while eating lunch It's unthinkable consuming this much graphic content this casually even as a fan of the dark, strange and mysterious... the way they hound grieving families and accuse the freshly dead people of crimes and gang involvement just for shock value... it's a big big problem It always has this very conservative, punitive and fearmongering tone to all of them, and the worst part is that wallace souza is not the only fearmongering tv host turned politician A neighbouring city just elected one of them as a mayor.... living in Brazil it's a nightmare sometimes
I feel sorry for that girl, and it's terrible that her own supposed friend would do something so sick and twisted to her, but at the same time getting *that* emotionally invested in someone that you've never even seen or spoken to is just crazy, and is asking for major heartbreak one way or the other.
Yeah, right? I could never imagine getting that invested without ever seeing the person in real life, or even calling or facetiming them, I'd definitely get suspicious. But then again, teenage girls can be very impressionable and perhaps her "best friend" knew exactly what to say to keep her invested.
Agreed. But I also don't think she killed herself over Brayden. Imagine if you discovered that your fiance was the fictitious creation of your supposed best friend. That's two major pillars of social support: gone. I theorize that she discovered the horrendous truth, and that's why she jumped. Despite knowing that Brayden was fake, she nevertheless mourned that relationship, so she still sent his number a text to say goodbye regardless. That pour Camilla was unnecessarily cruel in her breakup texts out of vengeful spite. Either way, an horrific tragedy, and my heart goes out to her family ❤
My daughter was catfished and I believe to this day she still feels shame over it. I saw all her ups and downs, the crazy emotional rollercoaster, how it seemed her mood was forever controlled by this person on the other end who, refused to ever meet up, despite living in the same area. Now she's much better and dating a real life person. Also.. thanks for that first story. It was so sweet!
I'm sorry you had to watch your daughter go through this. Thank God she is actually a strong person! Prayers that she gives that shame to God so she can be relieved of it. God Bless You and your family! 🙏❤
@@SS-pq9ci Especially when it's another girl doing the manipulating. We like to talk about the "patriarchy" and how awful men are, but when it comes to truly abhorrent behavior, well... that's best left to women.
We must really try to encourage others to not be ashamed of being catfished. I personally don't think there's any shame in being catfished. It's like robbing where they mostly target the weak and rich whereas they mostly target the young and pretty in catfishing. Also I'm sure that embarrassment play a big part in the cause of her suicide in that story because it's possible she found out the truth of the boy.
Hearing that you're the back half of a horse and the other half had falafel and Miller lite sounds worse. At least it's not pickled eggs and cabbage I guess
I went through a similar story when I was about 19 years old. But thankfully at some point, cat-fish felt bad about playing around with me and tried to disappear and at that point it hit me and I understood exactly who was behind this mess. I confronted the person and got my confirmation. It was someone I knew and considered to be a friendly contact. The charade went on for at least 6-7 months. I was furious and devastated at the same time. It took me a while to recover, but I did. And only now, hearing this story I realize how lucky I was that the author of the fake person started listening to their conscience and let themselves be found out. A couple of years later I met with them and was able to forgive them. Now I'm glad that I did as this obviously could end up much much worse for me. Especially since I was very lonely at that time in my life.
How can you be in a relationship for a year plus - and agree to marry - a man you've only seen one picture of AND HAVE NEVER SPOKEN TO ON THE PHONE?! This story is bizarre.
Jealous friends are very dangerous. "Your best friend is your best enemy" is true. Camilla is vicious and wicked. The worst is, she never showed remorse. Just wow!
Not every jealous friend is dangerous. Only thous that let their jealousy act out. Why I am so sure about that? Because I tend to be jealous myself. But I know this is my own problem, and I love my best friend. In a way, where I suffer in silence, rather than taking away what makes her happy. Don't blame yourself for your feelings, only blame yourself for your actions. And don't act on strong feeling alone, no matter if it's jealousy, hate oder even love. At least, try to be rational.
@@Leshantra No, anyone who is jealous of you poses a threat if they are around you frequently. Danger means a risk of something bad happening, not a guarantee.
Something tells me it wasn't jealousy. Camilla might have been a closet lesbian who was in love with her bestfriend. Hence, manipulating her to break up with the first boyfriend, and then posing as a guy so she could at least live out her fantasy as Renee's boyfriend.
I feel so sorry for Renee. That was so unfair, and the level of betrayal by her best friend was despicable. Everyone should know about Camilla. People should at least be warned.
I also noticed that Camilla had a huge wedding ring on in the last photo of her the video showed...if that's a real ring then I think it's especially sad/messed up she was able to find love and got her special day but still wanted to completely control and take that same thing away from her "best friend". So insane
Hello Mr. Ballen. I am a police officer who listens to your stories as I drive around at work all day. In some of your videos, you use a siren sound effect. Every time I hear it, I panic thinking I hit a button inside my car lol. Your stories make me pucker. Your sound effects make me pucker. All around, great content 👍🏻
So sad to hear of the young woman Renee, whose toxic friend catfished her. What a terrible waste of life. She either died believing she had lost her lover, or died realising that he didn't even exist. What that friend did may not have been illegal, but she is morally culpable.
@georgiatiefel-nottage6093 Right? She did use someone's photo and posed as a person on the picture. There just has to be a way to prosecute that "person"!
I agree there should be. A way to prosecute Camilla. I’m an Australian and I’m pretty sure Catfishing is illegal here now. I wonder if they can bring charges historically to this case. I’m certainly going to be doing some research. She deserves to be punished for her disgusting behaviour. I wonder if Camilla ever thinks about what she’s done! My heart breaks for Renee, Teresa and her family.
@@user-dl5cg9dv1r Camila is a deeply disturbed individual and either needs to be locked up in prison or a psych ward of some sort. She should not be allowed to continue spewing her poison around her negatively affecting people's lives. Unsuspecting people's lives.
The only words that came out of my mouth after the last story was "THAT BITCH..." Renae truly didn't deserve to die and have a so called friend like Camilla.. What a waste to a young woman's life and bright future.. so damn heartbreaking
What a horrendous friend Camilla was. She played with her friends feeling with no care for her well-being or feelings that took Renaes life. Very unfair Renae lost everything and Camilla still had no repercussions to her actions…saw a ring on the real image of her makes me so mad she was able to find happiness or be in a relationship her friend deserved so much more than her.
the only time in history a guy has said "i have no idea what you're talking about! i didnt send those texts on my phone, someone else must have!" and WASN'T lying lol. great story as always mr b
The first story surprised me in a good way. I’m so used to things turning out horrifying here, I kept going “is it the exwife? Who killed who??!!” But it turns out to be a nice story 😄
My exams are coming soon and here I am - well equipped with snacks and juice - all ready to watch the Strange, Dark and Mysterious content - I've got my priorities right!! 😂😂
Update on the last story. Camila Zeidan testified in court with immunity that she and Renae was in a IRL relationship but that Renaes family wouldnt accept them together. She just keep making it worse and worse. Had she done that to my sister she would get punished one way or another. 🤬
@@7gamex It´s a year ago, but I do remember that I went down this rabbit hole because I did not know about the case before hand. The source could be anything from a 60 minutes episode to a court document, but I don´t remember. Something tells me it was a family member saying it. I might be able to look it up for you during our weekday Sunday tomorrow because it is a truly interesting case. But I can´t promise anything.
@@majkolsson7192 No need, I found an article that talks about it. But there's still missing information which tells me there's a good chance it's bullshit. Generally people open up about stuff like this before they do something this drastic...
Omg that first story got me EMOTIONAL!!!! It's not often a mr ballen story has a happy ending but dang that was incredible. I'm not crying you're crying
Imagine being the real guy in the picture, how freaking devastating that his image will be forever seen as "Brayden". Although criminal charges couldn't be filed, I'm sure civil charges could be. What a sick woman!
How could that not be criminal? I'm sure there is a fraud angle that could be investigated. She completely created people to mess with another person's reality. I have a feeling that "catfishing" or online fraud will eventually be illegal... In the US, not sure about AU. That is incredibly sad.
@@jenerin905 I couldn't believe that he said they couldn't file criminal charges. It's like with the OJ Simpson case (way back when). Everyone knew he did it, but Kardashian got him off on it. Then he got sacked with the civil suits from Nicole Browns family as well as Ron Goldman's family to pay restitution then he all of a sudden he doesn't have any money 🙄 he owes them millions! It's sickening
@@NadineMiller1974 You're absolutely right. This was in Austraila, so maybe that's why? In OJ's case, people with money know how to play the system, and they make rich people richer by exploiting those loopholes. It's just extremely heartbreaking because you can do everything right (raise your children to be responsible, have a good relationship with them, talk to them about their problems) and someone can still prey on them.
A friend is just an enemy I haven't met yet. Its amazing how you can know someone for twenty years, who will betray you faster than someone whose known you for twenty days
I don't know why CZcams places restrictions on your Video's. MrBallen you are really good about telling us if your video is going to be for Mature audiences
What a psycho that horrible woman from the 3rd story was! The mother probably thinks about the last time they talked before she left and wishing she would of coaxed her daughter into telling her what was actually going on and how she really felt.
I HAD a friend like that in high school and thank God my mother didn't like her and expressed her feelings to me repeatedly. Thank goodness that I respected my mother, that when my "friend" disrespected my mother and her friends started speaking up against her, that I ended that toxic mess immediately. Fortunately, I knew better when it came to who had my best interests.
That last story was horrible. It makes you wonder how many horrible people are out there. Everybody perhaps had simular thoughts when in pain, but to actualy do something like that, and continue to do this for years is realy sick. It is such a shame that she was ashamed of herself for being lied to. These experiences realy change you if you let it.
I can't believe she continued talking to "him" and in text form At that after not meeting up every time I feel like people are too quick nowadays to label their self as a relationship like In some cases the same very day they met I go on Several dates before I even decide if the person's right or not or I might not be right for them but yeah this is a fd up sad story
I hope karma get her back for those horrible things she did. She didn't even want to apologize for catfishing her. Also I don't think she'll ever have a true and faithful friend even till today.
That last story is, to me, one of the most frustrating I’ve heard. This woman, Camila, tricks her vulnerable, depressed friend into a fake relationship just to gain control. Then, when that friend calls her toxic and controlling, she gets offended?! How can a person be so self absorbed and unaware? Like, yes, you are undeniably toxic and controlling. Makes absolutely no sense for Camila to be offended by that description.
But that renae girl was dumb, who texts someone they think they've hooked up with for a whole year, didn't meet up or date to get to know the person better? Then hears where this person gets arrested and is convicted of a crime for 2 years, THEN sets up early plans to get married to the person who she AGAIN has not dated or met this person ever. She was delusional, as far as i'm concerned, the story didn't even talk about her status as an individual, did she finish high school? did she go to college? did she have a job? if so what kind of job did she have? i was getting the vibe that she could either be a high school dropout (or maybe not) but stayed at home with her mom, no interest in furthering her education or have a job. Just obsessed over some unknown person on her phone.
@@spyro115 you’re probably right, she probably wasn’t the smartest. Or maybe she was young, vulnerable, and naive. Either way, she didn’t deserve to die, and she didn’t deserve to be manipulated and toyed with by her “best friend”. Not really sure what your point was man, but Camilla was a terrible person and the story is very frustrating regardless of everything you brought up.
Camila is offended because she seems to think life is all about HER. She is probably narcissistic, and so would be offended. I have a sister like this and nothing is her fault, she is always the victim, everything has to be about her, she is always better than you, etc.
I didn't know I enjoyed listening to stories until I heard Mr ballen I been hooked on his channel everyday great material while i work and go about my day
Dude is so good at telling true stories. How did you find all of these details? I'd believe you were there and personally witnessed and interviewed every person in these stories lol. I'm forever convinced Mr. Ballen is the king of true stories.
My boyfriend had expressed his worry that some stories might be fiction, as "there is no way Mr Ballen could know these specific details" HOWEVER, that's what really really makes the stories. He is using his belief of how he would react, think, and feel in these people's situations then combines it with available facts about their personalities, applying it to approximate SOME historical details which allows us to feel and experience as if we were there.
I’m surprised that Renee didn’t think it was odd that she had known her friend since school, but had never heard of her ex before being “introduced” to him. That would ring some alarm bells for me.
THIS! Exactly! I knew from the start that it was the “best friend” yanking Renae’s chain because how had she never met or even heard of her best friend’s boyfriend previously?! Catfishing is scarily common but there really needs to be charges for it when someone is killed, physically hurt, or duped out of money.
Poor Renee. I don't understand how she could love someone and want to get married without even seeing him. She was very gullible. Her friend is evil, she should be in jail for murder.
Right..and not only that but she never ever spoke over the phone or heard his voice in 2 years+ and also never had any updated photos or just a different photo besides the one with the so called "best friend". This is insane and sad.
But wanting to marry someone without even hearing their voice and not talking to them on the phone even once, not to mention not seeing them IRL once? Pretty weird even for gullible people..
Thank you so much for talking about Mentel Health. When someone who has been a soldier, runs a succesful CZcams channel, and comes across as a generally great guy, mentions that he has had mental health issues, it takes away a little bit of the stigma
I live in Sydney Australia and I remember Renee’s suicide but didn’t know the back story. THE GAP has always been a popular suicide spot for decades - In fact I lost a friend five years ago who had jumped from the Gap one night suffering from debilitating depression. We went to The Gap to pay our last respects as his friends and I cannot begin to explain what a horrifying place it was at night and just so treacherous looking jagged rocks and the crashing waves of the sea that would just take a human body away to oblivion. To think of the sheer unutterable pain and anguish people like my friend and Renee and dozens of other tortured souls must have felt looking down to what to me resembled Hell itself, to take that final step into the darkness makes me weep with unbearable distress. Thank you Mr Ballen for bringing Renee’s tragic story to Global light. RIP Renee, my Friend and all those other tender and broken souls, I know you are all in a better, kinder and more gentle place. 😔🙏💗☮️🐨🇦🇺
I had a girl which was born the same day as me which is yesterday April 6 and we spent our birthdays together from when we met back in 98, but from 2007 I don't really like my birthdays because in summer of 06 she jumped, not from such a horrific place but she died, I knew she had depression I tried the best I can but at some point I realized that no matter how much I love her I just can't help her because I don't know how. I didn't believe that she's able to do it, she didn't beloved how much it will hurt me, she fought that I would eventually forget about her in a year or two but I knew that it won't be a case and that it would hurt me to the end of my life or at least 20 years and whenever I see something like this I just wonder why, because no matter how something is hurting you there is somebody who loves you and when you decide to cut your pain by killing yourself that pain don't disappear it goes to those who loved you and become their pain. Of there is only one person who love you your life is worth of living but people should stop be selfish. If I didn't realized that I would be dead for at least 15 years. Way too many young people kill themselves because in some particular moments they think the world would be better without them while in fact the world is just too harsh place for their gentle souls.😔
I hope the “best friend” in that last story is being watched by every law enforcement agency in the world, because a person that manipulates on that level is dangerous and that wasn’t going to be her last crime. Sheesh! Absolutely mind blowing the level of not only evil, but persistence and dedication.
@@denigong9708 Well it should be a crime to emotionally manipulate someone for about two years. This is how some serial killers get away with crime, manipulating emotionally unstable people on the internet, causing them to kill themselves.
@@Thesamurai1999 You kinda touched on the real problem here: "Emotionally unstable people." Remember, Renae's mom tried to reach out to her and help her through what she was going through. She chose to shut her mom out, lied and told her everything was OK, then went and killed herself. If a drowning person refuses to grab a life preserver thrown at them and dies, the problem isn't really the person who pushed them into the water. The problem is that they refused to accept the help from people trying to save their life. And the solution is to identify these people and counsel them so that they *will* seek and accept help when they find themselves in trouble.
Renee’s story is really sad. Could sometime confirm for me please? Did she have a 2 plus year relationship with someone who she never met, FaceTimed, or even spoke to? And she planned to marry him?
Unfortunately that's very common. I had a teacher who lost the custody battle for her children because she was talking to this guy on Facebook. Similar story. Apparently she got so engrossed in the "relationship", she neglected her kids which is why the judge ruled in favor of her ex husband. Last I heard, she was getting into debt, sending this internet lover money because he supposedly needed it to acquire a visa and move in with her to marry her. We all knew, even us 9th grade kids, that she was being scammed, but there was no going through to her. I have no idea what happened after I graduated middle school, but hopefully she got help.
That last story broke my heart. I had a best friend that would steal my phone and text my new boyfriend pretending to be me and “break up” with him, but I’d catch her before she could delete the messages. She’d also pretend to be talking to him to make me jealous and lie about things he’d say about me so I would leave him. It was so toxic. We stopped being friends. But that was nothing compared to the catfishing a girl in our high school did. After graduation, she catfished her best friend using a dating app and started a fake relationship with that person, pretending she was actually this hot guy. Then awhile into this fake relationship she set up a “date” with the best friend only to show up and physically and sexually assault her - she got prison time, thankfully. With best friends like that, who needs enemies, right ?
Such a heartbreaking story, that last one. Good to note that if someone you are "dating" refuses or makes excuses to "meet up" then it's not likely a real relationship and they should get out.
I am surprised that no-one managed to call the prison he was supposedly being held at to check or even tr to meet up before all this. (Actually, I read why, turns out Camilla was gaslighting Renae as Brayden by getting jealous whenever Renae questioned "Brayden")
@@waldo8158 Yes, currently in one as a result from meeting them in a game we both still play, known each other for 4 years, been dating 6 months, ontop i've met the 3 greatest friends i could ask for online, known them for years aswell and yes i've met them all in person dozen times
@z28 grief what? What does that have to do with anything being discussed? If you don’t want to be spoiled, just don’t go to the comment section and read the comments that are actively discussing the video and it’s contents (which is what a comment section is literally made for). I don’t get what watching a video or any ads (which I didn’t) have to do with it.
@@ceepallyI am sure that you have some disgusting things also. What if he didn't have any teeth because of age or something else? What would you have said then? 🤦 That is a happy story that they found eachother.
That was heartbreaking. That poor girl, her brain must have been scrambled by what she'd realised. That poor mother losing her daughter in such a way. Catfishing should be illegal, simples.
Hopefully Renee's story saves other victims. Be smart, google anyone trying to win your heart. Video chat, everyone has smart phones and most co.puters have webcams. Meet in person, in a public place. If they keep making excuses, or ask for money, RUN
@Mr KFC I here you. It's not illegal in many places. In UK, it's tbc ting. I will try to find out where we are with that. It should be as it's ID fraud. Stay safe.
@@zacharycantu4034 ya I really can't believe such a seemingly smart and attractive woman would plan to marry a man she has never even spoken to or seen before, absolutely bizarre, no video calls or probably even voice calls .... just fucked ... her friend is the biggest pos
Best storyteller of our generation! Always keeps you wanting to hear what comes next. Just giving you enough to build suspense and make you NEVER want to put your phone down. Keep going and thank you for sharing your time and stories with all of us! You truly are the best, and when my son gets old enough, I can't wait to introduce him as well to your amazing talent!
You remind me so much of my late husband, he loved to tell stories and always made them longer than necessary. He would take 30-40 minutes to tell a 10 minute story, he loved talking. I have even carried on conversations with him while he was sound asleep, I miss him so much, he passed away 5 years ago from medical complications. Thank you for your stories!
Does this guy know his image was being used in a catfish scheme that resulted in a suicide ? That would be really upsetting to learn. Poor Renee and her family, that's so tragic
@Witty Witty Even if she was a gold digger she didn’t deserve that shit, no one does. Also what about her loved ones do you really think they deserved to go through all the pain a person goes through when someone close to them kills themselves?
I love mrballens stories. Im german living in the uk. Im not too familiar with american accents but understand him very clearly. I enjoy his accent and find it very easy and comfortable to listen to! His story telling is flippin amazing. Love it!
I really hope Australia changes the laws with catfishing. I hope they make it a crime so people can get justice for someone hurting them in such a terrible way.
Mate I live in Australia and am pro finally from Melbourne moved to Queensland and let me tell you that if this woman didn’t go to jail she was taken care of and justice was served to this evil woman
unfortunately it isn't illegal in the US unless tangible it's used to defraud the other person for "tangible" items. money, jewelry, etc.those "things" can all be replaced and are bad. but we all know that the human psyche is not something that can easily be repaired if ever. and just bc you can't put your hands on it, touch it, feel it, or even see it, doesn't mean it doesn't have a value. And that is what also confuses me. because in the US when we sue someone, we are also allowed to sue for mental anguish and any subsequent medical care ( pschiatric/psychological) that may be required. and are often reqarded large sums of money for it. so the law actually recognizes it that it has a monetary value. so why wouldn't it have a value when it comes to catfishing?
I’m all for therapy , but not for the over prescribing of SSRI medications as a first intervention prior to therapy without medications ? I’ve seem way to many people damaged by the medications and the consequences of the severe withdrawals from weening off them. I used therapy for my daughter as well without medications very successfully. She had OCD with excessive hand washing along with cutting herself after the divorce.
As a mental health therapist, why aren't you cautioning him against recommending that scam therapy site as if it's a legitimately helpful resource..? Do you work for Better Help? Or you just don't think they've done enough damage (yet) to warrant being shut down?
I remember one of my counselors telling me That Anger and Sadness are literally a product of the same thing, but the difference is how the person handles the information at hand. X persons Girlfriend/BoyFriend broke up with me. Some express this through anger, some express this through sadness and some might even express it through both. I think it's more common for men to pick anger over sadness, but for me personally I usually express my issues through sadness/depression.
The first story was actually so heartwarming 🥰 as someone who doesn’t have a close relationship with their father for similar reasons this hit close to home.
I was so happy to see it go well. I had low expectations when the first words I heard were basically “today’s story is about mike dick” lol I was like dang Mr. Ballen starting an only fans?
@@janicecorn3247 Yes, you trust a person, you've known them for a long time and then this person stabs you in the back. Sometimes I think only dogs and cats are true friends. Pets are always honest.
It definitely sucks, I agree. It’s not illegal in Australia, UK, or the US. I dare say that laws will finally catch up and make it illegal soon though. So many scams and crimes are preceded by catfishing someone
The last story is honestly so heartbreaking in a different way than these stories usually are. Renae was in a healthy, happy relationship and her bestfriend completely destroyed it just for control and probably entertainment. Then proceeds to fabricate a fake relationship knowing she is just wasting months and potential years of her friends life. It gives me a different kind of dread and sadness that all of this was so unnecessary. I’m just thinking about my relationships, romantic and friends, and how terrifying it would be to lose them to fabricated lies that you never even find out were fake 😞 it’s so sad.
Also, it's a great reminder to fucking heed the warnings of people close to you. If all of your family is having suspicions and not so good feelings about someone/your relationship with someone, fucking listen to them.
I can't help but think that if she replaced him so quickly with another boyfriend, that it wasn't such a healthy relationship that she left; it seems she was more in love with having a boyfriend than with that particular guy.
I had a sociopath for a best friend for most of my life. They play these games on multiple levels if you let them into your life, and if you're very close to them, it's really hard to see what they're doing. I lost jobs, friends, and boyfriends because of her games and lies and tricks, but unlike Renee, I was able to catch on and finally get away from her. She catfished, she hacked emails and social media, and she painted me as a villain to everyone we knew when I ended the friendship. She even faked a suicide attempt to regain control of the situation when people started to doubt her story of what happened. These people leave an immeasurable wake of damage, even if you survive them. These deceptions should certainly be illegal. These people can't be allowed to just move on to their next victim.
@@littleredwritinghead3781 they are if their actions caused you pain and suffering. You just have to have an attorney show a direct relationship between their actions and your suffering. Slander is also illegal.
Believe it or not, some 'friends' absolutely hate it when you're happy without them. I say this based on experience. The story that Mr. Ballen told was just an extreme example but it is, unfortunately, real.
Vulnerable Narcissism, or Histrionic Personality disorder is often the reason. A few others are linked to obsessions...but those two are terrifying. Every bit as capable at ruining your life as a psychopath - just usually without violence. But make no mistake - it's their goal.
As someone who's been bullied, lonely, casted aside and has never truly had a genuine friend or person by my side, I can confirm this as well, in fact I had this manipulator named Jenna who once manipulated me along with four other of her victims including my self to go to a movie theater two hours before the movie started, then our group became two clans arguing who would sit where, and I, the only real rational person of either group just told everyone to take a seat and just wait, then next you know about two months later, after reading a number of psychology-related articles and reviewing my past experiences with others from school, I quickly realized Jenna, a supposed friend I met during my (freshman year of high school/second year of middle school) was using me, along with the four others to satisfy and constantly feeding her malignant narcissism out a near sadist pleasure hence after I began to tell two of the four who I actually knew and had some trust with but they denied this or thought I was joking and so I decided to promptly end this "friendship" and of course Jenna became a parasite to a wild animal (me) and everyday that I was at school from sophomore year up to when the pandemic began, I always watched my back because I knew she knew what routes I took to go from class to class, speaking with others whom I talked to - until I stopped that, then after I began to socially-isolate myself to further minimize anymore psychological damage-trauma, Jenna although she mostly deleted her social media, blocked me from her contacts, etc... I still get the occasional nightmare/flashback and since the pandemic began although I'm an social-restrained introvert, To this day looking back at my rather dark and lonesome childhood, I have an excessively difficult time starting friendships, building them let alone keeping faith of trust in a friendship with another mostly due to her and because I was constantly bullied throughout my elementary years as a kid. So please listen to your gut and inner voice because if you don't you could end up potentially antisocial and isolated like me or worst... To this day even as an adult, I don't actually trust me coworkers, boss or anyone, online or in real life anyway please STAY SAFE and remember TRUST YOUR ANIMALISTIC INSTINCTS... PLEASE!!!!
@@PxndaRL extreme circumstances leave a mark... Either you use it for good or for evil. @MrBallen uses it for good while reminding us the is limitless evil in the world.... I for one am soooo glad he's a storytelling badass versus a psycho stealthy killing machine 😊💯😜
I am addicted. You have such a way with telling stories, video or pod casts, and I am truly hooked. Thanks so much giving me something interesting to listen to, finally!!
My god that last story was horrific I'm sure we have all known someone like her but man she took manipulation to a whole other level I hope everyone in Sydney who saw this episode and recognizes her gives her the grief she so deserves
@@lieslvdt4455 If you do, give that scumbag the public call out and shaming she deserves. And I don't usually condone violence but a slap to the face won't do any lasting damage.... From both of us
Camilla is a trash person. I knew as soon as he said that after that long of a time of not meeting the friend was catfishing her. I was just hoping it didnt end the way it did.
I was catfished and stalked for over 2 years by my ex girlfriend and ended up questioning my own sanity, I lost my job, had a mini heart attack and ended up in the hospital, I became isolated and severely depressed. I had dark thoughts just as Renee, and was about to do the same when unexpectedly, a childhood friend of mine, who knew I was struggling with depression sent me a photo of her and her mom and a voice message from them telling me I'm loved and that everything will be alright, to just hang in a bit longer. I broke down in tears and sought out therapy. I've since been on antidepressants and do therapy twice a week. Legislation needs to catch up to real world problems happening every day. It seems easy enough to block an account, delete social media etc... but it's not that simple.
I met a guy and he hacked my phone over a year ago . He was watching and listening to my conversations . He’s still playing with me . I changed my phone and somehow he hacked it again . I never gave anyone my number . I think he hacked my families phones too so when I got my new phone he hacked me as I contacted my family . He’s still messing me to this day . I can’t get rid of my phone that’s the only way I can get rid of him . It’s evil And disgusting . He’s angry at me because I found out and hate him for hacking me . It’s kinda destroyed me and he won’t stop.
@@mariewilson9621 seem the hacker is someone close you why not go to the police?? btw hack is not magic. to hack your phone hacker need acess to it either psychally or digitally, and you to allow indirectly
@@ribertfranhanreagen9821 I don’t know how he did it he’s an electrical engineer so maybe he’s good at that type of stuff . I don’t think he cares about the effect he had had in me and how violating and soul destroying it is .
There were a few details left out of the third story that give some interesting context. Renae had previously attempted suicide via overdosing on pills but recovered. Camilla was verbally abusive to Renae on numerous occasions, with "Brayden" at one point suggesting that Renae have sex with Camilla. Renae refused. The other detail that really intrigues me is that she had entered into a relationship with a man she worked with named Ian. At some point they got engaged even. Ian realized she was "with Brayden" and told Renae that she needed to choose which man she was going to marry. She chose "Brayden." I think these details should have been included since not everyone is going to read the attached articles and they seem pretty important to the story. Renae's tragic suicide didn't just come out of nowhere, it was telegrammed much in advance.
This Deserves a Spotlight! Mr. Ballen, always gives dignity to the victims. However, this story goes out of the way to present it as a complete out of character behavior. The text to mom alone is alarming. A room full of people, -> Brainstorming! Police??
Renee’s story breaks my heart. I live in Sydney and around 10 years ago, I was at The Gap too with the same intention. I also texted my mum and best friends apologies and goodbyes, without telling them where I was. My mum immediately called police who traced my phone location and arrived SO fast, before I’d climbed over the railing. The Gap is a notorious suicide spot here, and there are cameras all along it for that reason, as well as suicide prevention signs and even a post with a button connecting to emergency services that urges anyone contemplating jumping to press it for help. I’m sure they already noticed me before my mum called them.. I was loitering a while deciding on the right spot to jump from.. being scared but also so deeply depressed I felt it I had to do it to end the pain. Plus there were lots of people around for the beautiful view, and I didn't want them traumatised by seeing someone die. If only the cops could’ve done the same with her phone and stopped Renee. There’s a story of a man living nearby who would watch the cliff from his house and go to speak to anyone he thought looked like they planned to jump. He saved a good number of people.. you can google it. Not sure if he’s still alive as I think he was an elderly gent.
I'm glad you are still with us Leigh ❤️ And I hope life treats you well 😊I did read another comment saying that he died one year before she jumped. Rest her soul ❤️ Big hugs from Norway 🇳🇴
That last story was so heartbreaking. 😔💔 It’s so ridiculous that Camila got off scot free after she’s the one that lead Renae to take her own life, even more disgusting that she never took responsibility or apologized for her cruel behavior. I’ve actually had “friends” in the past who were controlling & mean to me as well and that can REALLY mess you up emotionally, especially if you don’t really have any other friends besides them. I’m much happier now that I’ve cut those toxic friends out of my life and found the amazing friends I have now. I wish Renae’s story would’ve had a better ending. 😢
💡If she had apologized, that would've put the nail in her coffin by accepting responsibility😕 People need to be more responsible when using the internet for dating, especially when they haven't met someone in person. That internet dating is just dumb in so many ways😒
@@catherineharris4746 she wasn’t dating on the internet her “best friend” set her up. Before that she was with someone she knew and had been dating for a couple of years until the “best friend” convinced her he was cheating and broke them up.
I live in Brazil, and sadly, I’ve heard worse stories. Environmentalists and anyone who tries to stop powerful people here are all brutally murder, but those cases never get enough visibility, if you could help honor those people who tried helping Brazil and lost their lives by just telling their story it would be amazing.
I just don’t get how a person goes from wanting to be the only person in someone’s life to then not even being sorry that they died. I truly don’t get it. What a monster. I’m Aussie so I’ve actually heard this story before, but this is best narration I’ve heard by far. Thanks Mr Ballen.
i hope your society cold shoulders the CRAP out of her social life and calls her out whenever possible. One girl dies, and the other gets to live like nothing happened.......ugh.
It’s all about control. Camila probably had a terrible life, couldn’t find a good man, etc so she made sure her friend Renee would not leave her, too. Camila almost certainly has a personality disorder or two, so it’s doubtful camila felt love for Renee or, most likely, anyone other than herself. It’s no surprise camila is able to continue denying culpability because that’s what people with disorder(s) do. She’s likely incapable of love, empathy, or guilt. Go watch the show on mtv called catfish. It’s not uncommon for a friend or relative of the victim to be the one doing the catfishing. It’s ridiculous. Don’t ever have a long term relationship with anyone you’ve never met in person! 😝
It's typically about control. They don't necessarily want to be in your life, they want to be able to tell you what to do. So when you "disobey" them, they'll get angry. 😡
As a Brazilian I can tell you that the second story still resonates till these days. We strongly believe that there’s so much more behind the curtains of all this mess, including politicians and drug dealers.
I had heard of the Renae Case before! The TV show “Web of Lies” featured the story and it was chilling then and it is chilling now. I’m glad you covered it Mr. Ballin, Renae’s story deserves to be told. Such a tragic loss of life for no reason other than the possessive controlling actions of a selfish monster disguising itself as a “friend.”
With the last story, I thought it was a case of the best friend and boyfriend being in cahoots to scam Renae. Boy was I wrong. It was far more heartbreaking and infuriating than I could have ever believed.
The 3rd story is baffling. I can't imagine the extent that friend went to trying to keep up that facade. She must be a very desperate and very cruel person.
she had so much fun grinning ear to ear while comfortably sitting on her bed sending fake texts to her friend knowing exactly hows shes like and whats shes like its no wonder she made her fall head over heels with her with just text and had her hooked for years while even in "prison" with no "job". She was acting like a evil narcissistic and entitled princess ruining and wasting her so called best friend's life.
@@michaelykwon i can't believe she didn't even call him to hear his voice? and not be suspicious? so many red flags. how on earth can u be so naive to want to marry someone u havent even seen or heard
Thank you Mr Bal len for the mental health suggestion you gave after one of your pod casts. I am taking in some information and reaching out for free therapy. Thank you for your sharing and giving me the courage to reach out. Your the best
Retired Navy Seal; instead of becoming one of MANY gun channels, decides to become THE best story teller on CZcams and I’m here for it! Thank you for doing what you do, sir.
Anything wrong with gun channels?
honestly a Mr. Ballen gun channel would probably be dope
@@peterlowell7963 not for me lmao
@@peterlowell7963 nothing wrong with them, just a really crowded space. You ok bro?
@@DallasGraves no, I’m fine and I hope you are to. Just asking that question in a neutral tone. I am however a big fan of the 2A and I encourage you all to own suppressed, unregistered, third hole sbrs.
There was a man named Don Ritchie who was called "The Angel of the Gap", he lived near the Gap and he'd regularly talk people down from suicide attempts.
He was credited with saving 160 people who were about to commit suicide at the Gap. He was made a Member of the Order of Australia for these actions.
Unfortunately, Don died in 2012, the year before Renea took her life.
Damn, that's deep.
in an alternate time line he could have saved her
this comment is crazy. probably coulda fit in the story.
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@@Apathy-FPS Your username doesn't fit your personality :)
I hope Camilla has a terrible life and is never given a moments rest from her catfishing. My regards to the poor family that were victims to that thing
Fr that’s so fucked up you can tell Renee was a soft hearted kind girl. She definitely deserved a soul mate in this life or the next.
Unfortunately its the worst people that have the best lives and have to feel no pain, I hate planet earth with a severe passion.
actually,thats NO best freind,true freinds are your own family!
@@grimsquad273 Probably shoulda just watched the video to figure that out.
Amen! I've been single 3 years because i don't like nor want no booty calls, but rather a happy, safe and trusting relationship. To play with hearts and take advantage of others is EVIL AND LOW AND DEAD WRONG!!
I just love how he slowly unveils facts. You don't see that anymore. it's what makes him the greatest storyteller on social media ever.
It's like he's doing the emotional striptease!
@@honorladone8682 "emotional striptease" 😭
@@honorladone8682Now that's something I can get behind!
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@@kingjellybeans7823 yes, exactly
Fun fact: Mr Ballen will never run out of stories, ever. Because this world is batshit crazy, only to get crazier.
reeeEeeee reeeEeeee reeeEeeee
He picked the right topic for endless content for sure
period
@@Rusty_coit good for you dude 👍
biggest plot twist would be mr ballen being the instigator of those stories, much like Canal Livre... ultimatley revealing his crimes in a new video upload delivering his confession in story format... hahah ...damn... hah
I live in Melbourne and l remember this story. Absolutely horrendous. The Gap is notorious for suicides. There used to be a man that lived close to The Gap and he kept an eye open for jumpers. He saved so many lives by chatting to them until they no longer wanted to die. Awesome man that has unfortunately passed away himself.
So awesome...this man was...for being there for those in their dark despair. He was a lighthouse... with a beacon of light, arriving loyally, cutting through that lonely darkness of the lost...♡
not all heroes wear capes
How many did he save
Maybe a high wall should be put up and not just a fence and possibly with barbed wire at the top to keep people away from that area. It is so sad that people are ending their lives there😪
@@RomeoRattica unfortunately that won't work we have to help it before if you have ever been in a state of mind you will welcome death
After hearing this for the 4th time it still breaks my heart for that girl and especially for her mother.. burying your child is a pain that never subsidies..... months, years.... decades..... it never stops hurting
My Wife Was Killed In 2005 And. I. Will Never Get Over Her
I can't help but wonder if your username is a Key & Peele reference
@@rickoppidisano9417 I am SO sorry to hear that, brother… I wish there was something I could do to help ease your pain
@@nathanvandereecken3882 yes, it almost 100% definitely is lol
@@dr.bright3081 lol no actually my best friend is named Aaron and since I met him about 25 years ago that's what he tells people when they ask his name 🤣 key and peele just made it a little more hilarious
I have officially accepted the fact that ballen has to be the story teller of our time, he just has a way with words. He could take any topic and make it worth dropping everything to listen. Thanks ballen, keeping us staring at our phones at inopportune times lol
inopportune?
I agree with you.
@@novawolf66 😂
No?
It was actually very hard for me to follow at the beginning. I have ADHD and autism, so the hand-gesturing was a really big problem for me because it took my focus off the stories. It took 5 videos and I finally got adjusted to the rhythm and I subscribed 😅
I can't believe they can't hold the friend in the third story accountable! She manipulated that poor girl her entire life! Also how can camilla not take any personal responsibility!? This is the saddest catfish story I've ever heard.
Here in Canada that would absolutely constitute VOLUNTARY Manslaughter. And zero mitigating factors.. She would be looking at the full 15 years in supermax prison. I cannot believe the 'super liberal' Aussie government just let that one go..
With a good lawyer, maybe Criminal Negligence Causing Death... Now that I actually think on it.. Yeah, lawyers and the ever broken 'justice system'... Gotta love that system.. Makes everyone's day just effin great.. Nobody wins with Canada's backwards system... Ugh.. That Camilla though... I want to be sick thinking about this story..
Never trust a woman named Camilla, except the Sopranos
Edit: nvm just remembered Sopranos was Carmella. Never trust a Camilla
How did they have a relationship that long and not talk on the phone?? Hard to believe!
She probably told her to kill herself
I thought the first story was going to have a dark twist. Turns out it was just a wholesome coincidence 🖤
No such thing as coincidences
The darkness in the first story was the parental alienation the ex-wife engaged in that left a man and his daughter without contact for decades. Notice MrBallen skipped right over that bit.
Lol I literally asked the screen wryly "But where is the dark? No stalkers at least?" Lol
Well the dad didn't at first believe her. But that only lasted 3 seconds. 😂
Spoiler alert lol
I did too. His picture kinda freaked me out
It's so frightening to know there are so many evil people. Kamila should have definitely been imprisoned for this. Disgusting what these narcissists get away with
Story 3: You’re telling me that girl had a “relationship” over text for 2 YEARS, and she never ONCE wanted to meet “him” in person or call “him” on the phone?! That girl must’ve been incredibly insecure. Very sad story.
That “friend” of hers is evil for what she did. It’s a crime shame she was never charged for anything.
I remember seeing the full version of that on Netflix. Screwed up.
Well she believed her best friend. Why would your best friend lie to you? Camila’s best friend set Renee up with her ex. Camila had pictures. Why would your best friend lie to you?😢
@@naayomee I think the point is she never even spoke to 'him' on the phone after two years.
I think someone as naive as that girl was destined to be duped in some major way or have a terrible life from being so dangerously stupid
As someone who had an online relationship with a toxic guy for 6 years...yeah it's insecurity. Granted we did video call and talk on the phone and sent a decent amount of pics....the relationship could never work. He couldn't leave his country so I had to work on going to him but I had no job due to illness. He was from Venezuela and was a in the US on asylum waiting on citizenship. But when you're insecure you will take any "love" you can get. Even one's that are toxic and impossible. He tried to break up with me several times. The first because I was ill, second because I didn't want to do certain intimate things with him and the third time I broke up with after he started hating on my family and insulted me for my religion and then jut iced me out. Yeah....I security makes you do horrible things to yourself.
With friends like that, who needs enemies?! Unbelievable.
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Yes She is terrible but that girl was completely brain dead and emotionally unstable.
Bro, that last story was heartbreaking. You really bring out the human aspect of storytelling, and I thank you.
HEARTBREAKING!!!??? Waaaaaaay passed that. It was heartbreaking at the point where the two could never meet up. That is when I suspected/ realized that the 'best friend' was behind it. I kept hoping against hope that the 'friend' had good intentions. Sadly, it ended the way it did.
damn, its what a man can do to a man ( in this case a woman)
heartbreaking is an understatement. it's like saying putin is a stinky tempered man
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With a woman that is THAT heartless in how she treated her supposedly close friend, she must have had no remorse or guilt when her friend passed away. Pure evil
I'm brazillian and I've never heard the details of this particular story, so kudos for the great coverage!
these exploitative and shocking crime shows are really a thing people watch while eating lunch
It's unthinkable consuming this much graphic content this casually even as a fan of the dark, strange and mysterious... the way they hound grieving families and accuse the freshly dead people of crimes and gang involvement just for shock value... it's a big big problem
It always has this very conservative, punitive and fearmongering tone to all of them, and the worst part is that wallace souza is not the only fearmongering tv host turned politician
A neighbouring city just elected one of them as a mayor.... living in Brazil it's a nightmare sometimes
Can you really call it fearmongering when Brazil has a homicide rate of 23.3 per 100,000 people?
I feel sorry for that girl, and it's terrible that her own supposed friend would do something so sick and twisted to her, but at the same time getting *that* emotionally invested in someone that you've never even seen or spoken to is just crazy, and is asking for major heartbreak one way or the other.
Yeah, right? I could never imagine getting that invested without ever seeing the person in real life, or even calling or facetiming them, I'd definitely get suspicious. But then again, teenage girls can be very impressionable and perhaps her "best friend" knew exactly what to say to keep her invested.
Agreed. But I also don't think she killed herself over Brayden. Imagine if you discovered that your fiance was the fictitious creation of your supposed best friend. That's two major pillars of social support: gone. I theorize that she discovered the horrendous truth, and that's why she jumped. Despite knowing that Brayden was fake, she nevertheless mourned that relationship, so she still sent his number a text to say goodbye regardless. That pour Camilla was unnecessarily cruel in her breakup texts out of vengeful spite. Either way, an horrific tragedy, and my heart goes out to her family ❤
My daughter was catfished and I believe to this day she still feels shame over it. I saw all her ups and downs, the crazy emotional rollercoaster, how it seemed her mood was forever controlled by this person on the other end who, refused to ever meet up, despite living in the same area. Now she's much better and dating a real life person. Also.. thanks for that first story. It was so sweet!
Girls and young women at a certain age can be extremely easy to manipulate.
I'm sorry you had to watch your daughter go through this. Thank God she is actually a strong person! Prayers that she gives that shame to God so she can be relieved of it. God Bless You and your family! 🙏❤
@@SS-pq9ci Especially when it's another girl doing the manipulating. We like to talk about the "patriarchy" and how awful men are, but when it comes to truly abhorrent behavior, well... that's best left to women.
We must really try to encourage others to not be ashamed of being catfished. I personally don't think there's any shame in being catfished. It's like robbing where they mostly target the weak and rich whereas they mostly target the young and pretty in catfishing.
Also I'm sure that embarrassment play a big part in the cause of her suicide in that story because it's possible she found out the truth of the boy.
@@fluffybunny1200 Yeah, how can you plan your wedding with a person you have never met! Very strange!
Nothing worse than hearing "so that's gonna do it guys....." at the end of the video, NO, I NEED MORE MR. BALLEN!
SO TRUE
Hearing that you're the back half of a horse and the other half had falafel and Miller lite sounds worse. At least it's not pickled eggs and cabbage I guess
Oh My God same hun. I’m always like. Noooo it can’t be the end already. Whyyyyy...
lol 😂
He gets you hooked hey! He’s a great story-teller.
Hahaha!! This is a true statement! The pain is real!! Lol!!!
I went through a similar story when I was about 19 years old. But thankfully at some point, cat-fish felt bad about playing around with me and tried to disappear and at that point it hit me and I understood exactly who was behind this mess. I confronted the person and got my confirmation. It was someone I knew and considered to be a friendly contact. The charade went on for at least 6-7 months.
I was furious and devastated at the same time. It took me a while to recover, but I did. And only now, hearing this story I realize how lucky I was that the author of the fake person started listening to their conscience and let themselves be found out.
A couple of years later I met with them and was able to forgive them. Now I'm glad that I did as this obviously could end up much much worse for me. Especially since I was very lonely at that time in my life.
How can you be in a relationship for a year plus - and agree to marry - a man you've only seen one picture of AND HAVE NEVER SPOKEN TO ON THE PHONE?! This story is bizarre.
It certainly is!
The catfish show is like that. No way I can connect with someone for that long and not have proof of authenticity.
Right😂
Jealous friends are very dangerous. "Your best friend is your best enemy" is true.
Camilla is vicious and wicked. The worst is, she never showed remorse. Just wow!
Not every jealous friend is dangerous. Only thous that let their jealousy act out. Why I am so sure about that? Because I tend to be jealous myself. But I know this is my own problem, and I love my best friend. In a way, where I suffer in silence, rather than taking away what makes her happy.
Don't blame yourself for your feelings, only blame yourself for your actions. And don't act on strong feeling alone, no matter if it's jealousy, hate oder even love. At least, try to be rational.
Jealousy is indicative of mental imbalances and many awful personality disorders. Healthy, decent, sane people aren’t jealous of other people.
@@Leshantra No, anyone who is jealous of you poses a threat if they are around you frequently. Danger means a risk of something bad happening, not a guarantee.
Something tells me it wasn't jealousy. Camilla might have been a closet lesbian who was in love with her bestfriend. Hence, manipulating her to break up with the first boyfriend, and then posing as a guy so she could at least live out her fantasy as Renee's boyfriend.
Reminds of a reddit jenny story simlar situation happened
I feel so sorry for Renee. That was so unfair, and the level of betrayal by her best friend was despicable. Everyone should know about Camilla. People should at least be warned.
She should have to walk around with a tattoo on her face that says CATFISHER
I dunno, I found that story kind of amusing
You breaking up with your boyfriend over fake massages, planing a wedding with a guy you never met... 😀
It's so heart breaking, I hope Camilla is feeling all the pain that she caused, everyday.
I also noticed that Camilla had a huge wedding ring on in the last photo of her the video showed...if that's a real ring then I think it's especially sad/messed up she was able to find love and got her special day but still wanted to completely control and take that same thing away from her "best friend". So insane
Camilla is disgusting. How terrible. How can you do that to your Bestfriend??
Hello Mr. Ballen. I am a police officer who listens to your stories as I drive around at work all day. In some of your videos, you use a siren sound effect. Every time I hear it, I panic thinking I hit a button inside my car lol. Your stories make me pucker. Your sound effects make me pucker. All around, great content 👍🏻
Sounds to me u like dat word "PUCKER" lol
My heart goes out to Renae & her family. Such a tragic & devastating story.
So sad to hear of the young woman Renee, whose toxic friend catfished her. What a terrible waste of life. She either died believing she had lost her lover, or died realising that he didn't even exist. What that friend did may not have been illegal, but she is morally culpable.
her friend should have been in jail for 20-60 years for idenaty theft and resone for suaside
@georgiatiefel-nottage6093 Right? She did use someone's photo and posed as a person on the picture. There just has to be a way to prosecute that "person"!
I agree there should be. A way to prosecute Camilla. I’m an Australian and I’m pretty sure Catfishing is illegal here now.
I wonder if they can bring charges historically to this case. I’m certainly going to be doing some research.
She deserves to be punished for her disgusting behaviour. I wonder if Camilla ever thinks about what she’s done!
My heart breaks for Renee, Teresa and her family.
@@user-dl5cg9dv1r Camila is a deeply disturbed individual and either needs to be locked up in prison or a psych ward of some sort. She should not be allowed to continue spewing her poison around her negatively affecting people's lives. Unsuspecting people's lives.
@calidag idc what the laws they use to use back then if i was the like the leader of the country/state i would send her to jail
The only words that came out of my mouth after the last story was "THAT BITCH..." Renae truly didn't deserve to die and have a so called friend like Camilla..
What a waste to a young woman's life and bright future.. so damn heartbreaking
well imagine if she didnt belive her "best friend" in the first place. she probably would have a healthy relationship and live to this day
@@MrTerrorM Maybe not. She obviously had serious mental health issues in the first place.
Camilla was obvs in “love” with Renee, it reminds me of Season 1 of “You” the Netflix series. Beck’s best friend is obsessed with her too!
Daryl I had to like your comment, 1st thing I thought was THAT BITCH too. what a nasty thing to do to your own friend
What a horrendous friend Camilla was. She played with her friends feeling with no care for her well-being or feelings that took Renaes life. Very unfair Renae lost everything and Camilla still had no repercussions to her actions…saw a ring on the real image of her makes me so mad she was able to find happiness or be in a relationship her friend deserved so much more than her.
the only time in history a guy has said "i have no idea what you're talking about! i didnt send those texts on my phone, someone else must have!" and WASN'T lying lol. great story as always mr b
I watch Mr ballens stories religiously every night before I go to sleep. I love the storytelling and the stories so thank you.
The first story surprised me in a good way. I’m so used to things turning out horrifying here, I kept going “is it the exwife? Who killed who??!!” But it turns out to be a nice story 😄
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Everyone smiled unexpectedly on that one lol
Same! 🤣🤣🤣
Right!!! Lol
Yeah, I was so happy and surprised! 😊
My exams are coming soon and here I am - well equipped with snacks and juice - all ready to watch the Strange, Dark and Mysterious content - I've got my priorities right!! 😂😂
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Same
Watch it while studying he may calm you
Most definitely
Update on the last story. Camila Zeidan testified in court with immunity that she and Renae was in a IRL relationship but that Renaes family wouldnt accept them together. She just keep making it worse and worse. Had she done that to my sister she would get punished one way or another. 🤬
Evil woman.... There really are just absolutely awful people and it is depressing
Not finding anything about that, any real source?
@@7gamex It´s a year ago, but I do remember that I went down this rabbit hole because I did not know about the case before hand. The source could be anything from a 60 minutes episode to a court document, but I don´t remember. Something tells me it was a family member saying it. I might be able to look it up for you during our weekday Sunday tomorrow because it is a truly interesting case. But I can´t promise anything.
@@majkolsson7192 No need, I found an article that talks about it.
But there's still missing information which tells me there's a good chance it's bullshit. Generally people open up about stuff like this before they do something this drastic...
Omg that first story got me EMOTIONAL!!!! It's not often a mr ballen story has a happy ending but dang that was incredible. I'm not crying you're crying
The first story made me feel happy that a father and daughter found eachother and are still in touch
Just amazing that they were all captured in the same photograph!!
first ive ever heard from ballen that made me feel good....i love his stories but man i must be a gluton for punishment
As a UK resident, I like that the UK based one wasn't scary and horrible!
Truly!
lol I was totally waiting for something awful to happen
Imagine being the real guy in the picture, how freaking devastating that his image will be forever seen as "Brayden". Although criminal charges couldn't be filed, I'm sure civil charges could be. What a sick woman!
Hello Nadine Miller.😃
How could that not be criminal? I'm sure there is a fraud angle that could be investigated. She completely created people to mess with another person's reality. I have a feeling that "catfishing" or online fraud will eventually be illegal... In the US, not sure about AU. That is incredibly sad.
@@jenerin905 I couldn't believe that he said they couldn't file criminal charges. It's like with the OJ Simpson case (way back when). Everyone knew he did it, but Kardashian got him off on it. Then he got sacked with the civil suits from Nicole Browns family as well as Ron Goldman's family to pay restitution then he all of a sudden he doesn't have any money 🙄 he owes them millions!
It's sickening
@@NadineMiller1974 You're absolutely right. This was in Austraila, so maybe that's why? In OJ's case, people with money know how to play the system, and they make rich people richer by exploiting those loopholes. It's just extremely heartbreaking because you can do everything right (raise your children to be responsible, have a good relationship with them, talk to them about their problems) and someone can still prey on them.
@@NadineMiller1974 becauae catfishing is all she ever did. Catfishing is legal and Im fine with it
A friend is just an enemy I haven't met yet. Its amazing how you can know someone for twenty years, who will betray you faster than someone whose known you for twenty days
I don't know why CZcams places restrictions on your Video's. MrBallen you are really good about telling us if your video is going to be for Mature audiences
What a psycho that horrible woman from the 3rd story was! The mother probably thinks about the last time they talked before she left and wishing she would of coaxed her daughter into telling her what was actually going on and how she really felt.
What a heartbreaking story. I had heard it before on Australia 60 minutes. So very sad
I HAD a friend like that in high school and thank God my mother didn't like her and expressed her feelings to me repeatedly. Thank goodness that I respected my mother, that when my "friend" disrespected my mother and her friends started speaking up against her, that I ended that toxic mess immediately. Fortunately, I knew better when it came to who had my best interests.
That last story was horrible. It makes you wonder how many horrible people are out there. Everybody perhaps had simular thoughts when in pain, but to actualy do something like that, and continue to do this for years is realy sick.
It is such a shame that she was ashamed of herself for being lied to. These experiences realy change you if you let it.
I can't believe she continued talking to "him" and in text form At that after not meeting up every time I feel like people are too quick nowadays to label their self as a relationship like In some cases the same very day they met I go on Several dates before I even decide if the person's right or not or I might not be right for them but yeah this is a fd up sad story
I hope karma get her back for those horrible things she did. She didn't even want to apologize for catfishing her. Also I don't think she'll ever have a true and faithful friend even till today.
That last story is, to me, one of the most frustrating I’ve heard. This woman, Camila, tricks her vulnerable, depressed friend into a fake relationship just to gain control. Then, when that friend calls her toxic and controlling, she gets offended?! How can a person be so self absorbed and unaware? Like, yes, you are undeniably toxic and controlling. Makes absolutely no sense for Camila to be offended by that description.
But that renae girl was dumb, who texts someone they think they've hooked up with for a whole year, didn't meet up or date to get to know the person better? Then hears where this person gets arrested and is convicted of a crime for 2 years, THEN sets up early plans to get married to the person who she AGAIN has not dated or met this person ever.
She was delusional, as far as i'm concerned, the story didn't even talk about her status as an individual, did she finish high school? did she go to college? did she have a job? if so what kind of job did she have? i was getting the vibe that she could either be a high school dropout (or maybe not) but stayed at home with her mom, no interest in furthering her education or have a job. Just obsessed over some unknown person on her phone.
@@spyro115 you’re probably right, she probably wasn’t the smartest. Or maybe she was young, vulnerable, and naive. Either way, she didn’t deserve to die, and she didn’t deserve to be manipulated and toyed with by her “best friend”. Not really sure what your point was man, but Camilla was a terrible person and the story is very frustrating regardless of everything you brought up.
@@spyro115 That’s quite an assumption you’ve made about someone you know nothing about
Camila is offended because she seems to think life is all about HER. She is probably narcissistic, and so would be offended. I have a sister like this and nothing is her fault, she is always the victim, everything has to be about her, she is always better than you, etc.
@@paulc2138 and yet you're assuming the opposite about her so take your own advice
I didn't know I enjoyed listening to stories until I heard Mr ballen I been hooked on his channel everyday great material while i work and go about my day
Dude is so good at telling true stories. How did you find all of these details? I'd believe you were there and personally witnessed and interviewed every person in these stories lol. I'm forever convinced Mr. Ballen is the king of true stories.
My boyfriend had expressed his worry that some stories might be fiction, as "there is no way Mr Ballen could know these specific details" HOWEVER, that's what really really makes the stories. He is using his belief of how he would react, think, and feel in these people's situations then combines it with available facts about their personalities, applying it to approximate SOME historical details which allows us to feel and experience as if we were there.
I know right? 🙏🇺🇸❤️
Oh I don't know, public domain? Anyone can look this stuff up 🙄
By reading something you should do
@@SilverCurbsideProphet sure he is
I’m surprised that Renee didn’t think it was odd that she had known her friend since school, but had never heard of her ex before being “introduced” to him. That would ring some alarm bells for me.
THIS! Exactly! I knew from the start that it was the “best friend” yanking Renae’s chain because how had she never met or even heard of her best friend’s boyfriend previously?! Catfishing is scarily common but there really needs to be charges for it when someone is killed, physically hurt, or duped out of money.
Smart cookie! 👍
Same
Good point
How in the hell did she not want to meet the guy to proceed with the relationship ? Insanity...
Poor Renee. I don't understand how she could love someone and want to get married without even seeing him. She was very gullible. Her friend is evil, she should be in jail for murder.
Right..and not only that but she never ever spoke over the phone or heard his voice in 2 years+ and also never had any updated photos or just a different photo besides the one with the so called "best friend". This is insane and sad.
But wanting to marry someone without even hearing their voice and not talking to them on the phone even once, not to mention not seeing them IRL once? Pretty weird even for gullible people..
@@nathanp8152 She obviously wasn't all there in the head.
Stupid people in their element, and evil people playing on their emotions like sharks… so very sad.
Just the side effects of a broken heart I hope she found peace
When I have to click confirm, I go 'ooooh boy, here we go.'
Thank you so much for talking about Mentel Health. When someone who has been a soldier, runs a succesful CZcams channel, and comes across as a generally great guy, mentions that he has had mental health issues, it takes away a little bit of the stigma
I live in Sydney Australia and I remember Renee’s suicide but didn’t know the back story. THE GAP has always been a popular suicide spot for decades - In fact I lost a friend five years ago who had jumped from the Gap one night suffering from debilitating depression. We went to The Gap to pay our last respects as his friends and I cannot begin to explain what a horrifying place it was at night and just so treacherous looking jagged rocks and the crashing waves of the sea that would just take a human body away to oblivion. To think of the sheer unutterable pain and anguish people like my friend and Renee and dozens of other tortured souls must have felt looking down to what to me resembled Hell itself, to take that final step into the darkness makes me weep with unbearable distress. Thank you Mr Ballen for bringing Renee’s tragic story to Global light.
RIP Renee, my Friend and all those other tender and broken souls, I know you are all in a better, kinder and more gentle place.
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I had a girl which was born the same day as me which is yesterday April 6 and we spent our birthdays together from when we met back in 98, but from 2007 I don't really like my birthdays because in summer of 06 she jumped, not from such a horrific place but she died, I knew she had depression I tried the best I can but at some point I realized that no matter how much I love her I just can't help her because I don't know how. I didn't believe that she's able to do it, she didn't beloved how much it will hurt me, she fought that I would eventually forget about her in a year or two but I knew that it won't be a case and that it would hurt me to the end of my life or at least 20 years and whenever I see something like this I just wonder why, because no matter how something is hurting you there is somebody who loves you and when you decide to cut your pain by killing yourself that pain don't disappear it goes to those who loved you and become their pain. Of there is only one person who love you your life is worth of living but people should stop be selfish. If I didn't realized that I would be dead for at least 15 years. Way too many young people kill themselves because in some particular moments they think the world would be better without them while in fact the world is just too harsh place for their gentle souls.😔
@@vladimircurkoski1455 I’m so very sorry for your loss my dear… your friend is with you always. She’s your own special angel now ❤️
This was written so beautifully.
Ok
@@michellerobin5461 stop Smoking weed
I hope the “best friend” in that last story is being watched by every law enforcement agency in the world, because a person that manipulates on that level is dangerous and that wasn’t going to be her last crime. Sheesh! Absolutely mind blowing the level of not only evil, but persistence and dedication.
It really wasn't a crime though.. Just fucked up
@@denigong9708 Well it should be a crime to emotionally manipulate someone for about two years.
This is how some serial killers get away with crime, manipulating emotionally unstable people on the internet, causing them to kill themselves.
@@denigong9708 Someone died because of her manipulative actions. It's an ethical and moral crime, albeit not an Australian crime written into law.
@@Thesamurai1999 You kinda touched on the real problem here: "Emotionally unstable people." Remember, Renae's mom tried to reach out to her and help her through what she was going through. She chose to shut her mom out, lied and told her everything was OK, then went and killed herself. If a drowning person refuses to grab a life preserver thrown at them and dies, the problem isn't really the person who pushed them into the water. The problem is that they refused to accept the help from people trying to save their life. And the solution is to identify these people and counsel them so that they *will* seek and accept help when they find themselves in trouble.
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Renee’s story is really sad. Could sometime confirm for me please? Did she have a 2 plus year relationship with someone who she never met, FaceTimed, or even spoke to? And she planned to marry him?
That is what it sounds like. How sad
Unfortunately that's very common. I had a teacher who lost the custody battle for her children because she was talking to this guy on Facebook. Similar story. Apparently she got so engrossed in the "relationship", she neglected her kids which is why the judge ruled in favor of her ex husband. Last I heard, she was getting into debt, sending this internet lover money because he supposedly needed it to acquire a visa and move in with her to marry her. We all knew, even us 9th grade kids, that she was being scammed, but there was no going through to her. I have no idea what happened after I graduated middle school, but hopefully she got help.
Sounds crazy, but keep in mind her "friend" Camilla would know a lot of info on her, so could use that to say the right things.
That last story broke my heart. I had a best friend that would steal my phone and text my new boyfriend pretending to be me and “break up” with him, but I’d catch her before she could delete the messages. She’d also pretend to be talking to him to make me jealous and lie about things he’d say about me so I would leave him. It was so toxic. We stopped being friends. But that was nothing compared to the catfishing a girl in our high school did. After graduation, she catfished her best friend using a dating app and started a fake relationship with that person, pretending she was actually this hot guy. Then awhile into this fake relationship she set up a “date” with the best friend only to show up and physically and sexually assault her - she got prison time, thankfully. With best friends like that, who needs enemies, right ?
Such a heartbreaking story, that last one. Good to note that if someone you are "dating" refuses or makes excuses to "meet up" then it's not likely a real relationship and they should get out.
Dude, have you ever known of a healthy/working relationship coming from dating online?
I am surprised that no-one managed to call the prison he was supposedly being held at to check or even tr to meet up before all this. (Actually, I read why, turns out Camilla was gaslighting Renae as Brayden by getting jealous whenever Renae questioned "Brayden")
@@waldo8158 Yes, currently in one as a result from meeting them in a game we both still play, known each other for 4 years, been dating 6 months, ontop i've met the 3 greatest friends i could ask for online, known them for years aswell and yes i've met them all in person dozen times
@@Reddzion your the exception not the rule.
@@Reddzion same, currently in a relationship with a guy I met online, knew for about 11 years, finally met in person in Sept last year
The lost daughter story was just crazy. Love that they got together & are a happy family now.
@z28 grief then watch the video first before going to read the comments if you don’t want to be spoiled.
I know!! The odds of them being in that photo are - impossible!!
Yeah that was awesome
@z28 grief what? What does that have to do with anything being discussed? If you don’t want to be spoiled, just don’t go to the comment section and read the comments that are actively discussing the video and it’s contents (which is what a comment section is literally made for). I don’t get what watching a video or any ads (which I didn’t) have to do with it.
He said they kept in touch but nothing about them being a happy family
This man has become my hero! What a good dude
I was so scared during the first story because rarely are these happy stories.
The scariest part of the first story was the dads teeth 😵💫
@@ceepallyI am sure that you have some disgusting things also. What if he didn't have any teeth because of age or something else? What would you have said then? 🤦 That is a happy story that they found eachother.
That was heartbreaking. That poor girl, her brain must have been scrambled by what she'd realised. That poor mother losing her daughter in such a way. Catfishing should be illegal, simples.
Hopefully Renee's story saves other victims. Be smart, google anyone trying to win your heart. Video chat, everyone has smart phones and most co.puters have webcams. Meet in person, in a public place.
If they keep making excuses, or ask for money, RUN
@Mr KFC I here you. It's not illegal in many places. In UK, it's tbc ting. I will try to find out where we are with that. It should be as it's ID fraud. Stay safe.
you shouldn't be such an idiot and fall in love online it's really common sense
@Mr KFC are you looking for even more government control 🤣
@@zacharycantu4034 ya I really can't believe such a seemingly smart and attractive woman would plan to marry a man she has never even spoken to or seen before, absolutely bizarre, no video calls or probably even voice calls .... just fucked ... her friend is the biggest pos
SPOILER WARNING
Imagine being the random dude from the club in the 3rd story watching this like ... *Woah... so glad I didn't call that girl*
For real 😂
He coped so much shit & had to keep proving he wasn't that guy.
Forgot his real name but he was interviewed a bunch once they found him
@@Bdub1112 damn that's messed up but thats why you never take pictures with strangers
@@Rellik________ true dat 👌
@dash hope that link is related to the comment thread or video. I ain't clicking on it ,instead reporting for scams.
Best storyteller of our generation! Always keeps you wanting to hear what comes next. Just giving you enough to build suspense and make you NEVER want to put your phone down. Keep going and thank you for sharing your time and stories with all of us! You truly are the best, and when my son gets old enough, I can't wait to introduce him as well to your amazing talent!
I feel bad for Renee but, could you imagine planning a marriage with someone you've never even met?!
No
And then taking your own life and hurting the people that do actually love you.
You remind me so much of my late husband, he loved to tell stories and always made them longer than necessary. He would take 30-40 minutes to tell a 10 minute story, he loved talking. I have even carried on conversations with him while he was sound asleep, I miss him so much, he passed away 5 years ago from medical complications. Thank you for your stories!
I’m so sorry for your loss. ❤️
Sorry about your loss… sounds like a true love story
Praying for you
hope you feel better now
This is very sad, but it's great that these videos seem to be bringing you happy memories.
Does this guy know his image was being used in a catfish scheme that resulted in a suicide ? That would be really upsetting to learn. Poor Renee and her family, that's so tragic
@ɹǝlsᴉ sɹǝʇ ☪ yes, its tragic. I hope her "friend" knows what she did and how evil and sick it was.
@Witty Witty what are you talking about?
@Witty Witty Damn you sure placed alot of weight on 3-5 seconds of the story? Mom go out for smokes and never come back?
@Witty Witty Even if she was a gold digger she didn’t deserve that shit, no one does. Also what about her loved ones do you really think they deserved to go through all the pain a person goes through when someone close to them kills themselves?
@Witty Witty found the incel
I love mrballens stories. Im german living in the uk. Im not too familiar with american accents but understand him very clearly. I enjoy his accent and find it very easy and comfortable to listen to!
His story telling is flippin amazing. Love it!
12:55 idk why this lil 15 secs made me laugh so hard😭 “like right before the camera got here…on fire”😭🤣🤣
I really hope Australia changes the laws with catfishing. I hope they make it a crime so people can get justice for someone hurting them in such a terrible way.
I hope so too, & that my country does as well. Catfishing & Swatting.
Right? Disgusting that she got no consequence.
That case was less catfishing and more about having a psychopath for a friend.
Mate I live in Australia and am pro finally from Melbourne moved to Queensland and let me tell you that if this woman didn’t go to jail she was taken care of and justice was served to this evil woman
unfortunately it isn't illegal in the US unless tangible it's used to defraud the other person for "tangible" items. money, jewelry, etc.those "things" can all be replaced and are bad. but we all know that the human psyche is not something that can easily be repaired if ever. and just bc you can't put your hands on it, touch it, feel it, or even see it, doesn't mean it doesn't have a value. And that is what also confuses me. because in the US when we sue someone, we are also allowed to sue for mental anguish and any subsequent medical care ( pschiatric/psychological) that may be required. and are often reqarded large sums of money for it. so the law actually recognizes it that it has a monetary value. so why wouldn't it have a value when it comes to catfishing?
As a mental health therapist. I’m so happy that you are normalizing mental health therapy. We need more of this.
I’m all for therapy , but not for the over prescribing of SSRI medications as a first intervention prior to therapy without medications ? I’ve seem way to many people damaged by the medications and the consequences of the severe withdrawals from weening off them. I used therapy for my daughter as well without medications very successfully. She had OCD with excessive hand washing along with cutting herself after the divorce.
As a mental health therapist, why aren't you cautioning him against recommending that scam therapy site as if it's a legitimately helpful resource..? Do you work for Better Help? Or you just don't think they've done enough damage (yet) to warrant being shut down?
He was paid to do so....
@@DoctorJammer People need to research companies before accepting the sponsorship.
@@ville666sora Umm, I agree... what's your point?
I remember one of my counselors telling me That Anger and Sadness are literally a product of the same thing, but the difference is how the person handles the information at hand. X persons Girlfriend/BoyFriend broke up with me. Some express this through anger, some express this through sadness and some might even express it through both. I think it's more common for men to pick anger over sadness, but for me personally I usually express my issues through sadness/depression.
The last story might have been the saddest story ever. I have many not so nice things to say about Camilla
We should call her Ali Mac, her name backward
The first story was actually so heartwarming 🥰 as someone who doesn’t have a close relationship with their father for similar reasons this hit close to home.
It's so funny when the dramatic sounds are added to the wholesome story to make it spookier.
Honestly I'm surprised it ended well and I'm glad it did because I wanted a good ending for that family
@@maggiem215 Probably 1 of the very few times a story ended on a good note on MrBallen's channel
That was so wholesome! I'm such a cynic I'm like OOH SUSPISH and then nope, wholesome 🤣
I was so happy to see it go well. I had low expectations when the first words I heard were basically “today’s story is about mike dick” lol I was like dang Mr. Ballen starting an only fans?
What Camilla did to her “best friend” Renee is unforgivable! With a friend like Camilla you certainly don’t need enemies.
That’s what I said!
@@janicecorn3247 Yes, you trust a person, you've known them for a long time and then this person stabs you in the back. Sometimes I think only dogs and cats are true friends. Pets are always honest.
How st.p.. do you have to be to try to marry someone you never met? Renae was a complete fool.
@@encycl07pedia- So?
@encycl07pedia- I always question the heart of a person who sees a lack of sense as a bigger sin than a lack of conscience.
Mr ballen you help me get through hard times with your calm story telling and super friendly personality! Thank you so much keep being you!
I listen at work and it helps to get through a dull day and the stories are engrossing and sometimes very tragic to hear
im so pissed camila didnt get charged, the fact that she literally caused the death of this young woman and gets to walk free to this day
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It definitely sucks, I agree. It’s not illegal in Australia, UK, or the US. I dare say that laws will finally catch up and make it illegal soon though. So many scams and crimes are preceded by catfishing someone
The last story is honestly so heartbreaking in a different way than these stories usually are. Renae was in a healthy, happy relationship and her bestfriend completely destroyed it just for control and probably entertainment. Then proceeds to fabricate a fake relationship knowing she is just wasting months and potential years of her friends life.
It gives me a different kind of dread and sadness that all of this was so unnecessary. I’m just thinking about my relationships, romantic and friends, and how terrifying it would be to lose them to fabricated lies that you never even find out were fake 😞 it’s so sad.
Also, it's a great reminder to fucking heed the warnings of people close to you. If all of your family is having suspicions and not so good feelings about someone/your relationship with someone, fucking listen to them.
I can't help but think that if she replaced him so quickly with another boyfriend, that it wasn't such a healthy relationship that she left; it seems she was more in love with having a boyfriend than with that particular guy.
@@stuarthall3874 she was just young and new to the love scene. That’s normal behaviour in the earlier years.
I had a sociopath for a best friend for most of my life. They play these games on multiple levels if you let them into your life, and if you're very close to them, it's really hard to see what they're doing. I lost jobs, friends, and boyfriends because of her games and lies and tricks, but unlike Renee, I was able to catch on and finally get away from her. She catfished, she hacked emails and social media, and she painted me as a villain to everyone we knew when I ended the friendship. She even faked a suicide attempt to regain control of the situation when people started to doubt her story of what happened. These people leave an immeasurable wake of damage, even if you survive them. These deceptions should certainly be illegal. These people can't be allowed to just move on to their next victim.
@@littleredwritinghead3781 they are if their actions caused you pain and suffering.
You just have to have an attorney show a direct relationship between their actions and your suffering.
Slander is also illegal.
Deleting yourself someone you don't know is insane to me.
RIP
I really enjoy your stories 🎉❤. I love the causes you give 100% to.
Believe it or not, some 'friends' absolutely hate it when you're happy without them. I say this based on experience. The story that Mr. Ballen told was just an extreme example but it is, unfortunately, real.
Vulnerable Narcissism, or Histrionic Personality disorder is often the reason.
A few others are linked to obsessions...but those two are terrifying. Every bit as capable at ruining your life as a psychopath - just usually without violence. But make no mistake - it's their goal.
No truer words have ever been said and most of us awake to this truth after tragedy!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Those types of people are called cluster B personality disorder. And yes, AVOID them in your life at all costs!!!
Yeah same here. It’s actually kind of insane… I don’t understand people like that
As someone who's been bullied, lonely, casted aside and has never truly had a genuine friend or person by my side, I can confirm this as well, in fact I had this manipulator named Jenna who once manipulated me along with four other of her victims including my self to go to a movie theater two hours before the movie started, then our group became two clans arguing who would sit where, and I, the only real rational person of either group just told everyone to take a seat and just wait, then next you know about two months later, after reading a number of psychology-related articles and reviewing my past experiences with others from school, I quickly realized Jenna, a supposed friend I met during my (freshman year of high school/second year of middle school) was using me, along with the four others to satisfy and constantly feeding her malignant narcissism out a near sadist pleasure hence after I began to tell two of the four who I actually knew and had some trust with but they denied this or thought I was joking and so I decided to promptly end this "friendship" and of course Jenna became a parasite to a wild animal (me) and everyday that I was at school from sophomore year up to when the pandemic began, I always watched my back because I knew she knew what routes I took to go from class to class, speaking with others whom I talked to - until I stopped that, then after I began to socially-isolate myself to further minimize anymore psychological damage-trauma, Jenna although she mostly deleted her social media, blocked me from her contacts, etc... I still get the occasional nightmare/flashback and since the pandemic began although I'm an social-restrained introvert, To this day looking back at my rather dark and lonesome childhood, I have an excessively difficult time starting friendships, building them let alone keeping faith of trust in a friendship with another mostly due to her and because I was constantly bullied throughout my elementary years as a kid. So please listen to your gut and inner voice because if you don't you could end up potentially antisocial and isolated like me or worst...
To this day even as an adult, I don't actually trust me coworkers, boss or anyone, online or in real life anyway please STAY SAFE and remember TRUST YOUR ANIMALISTIC INSTINCTS... PLEASE!!!!
I always love how the stories get progressively longer. First one is 6 mins, then 10 mins, then 18 mins
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Ye ay
@@MrBallen I got a question
How are u such a good storyteller
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@@PxndaRL extreme circumstances leave a mark... Either you use it for good or for evil. @MrBallen uses it for good while reminding us the is limitless evil in the world.... I for one am soooo glad he's a storytelling badass versus a psycho stealthy killing machine 😊💯😜
I am addicted. You have such a way with telling stories, video or pod casts, and I am truly hooked. Thanks so much giving me something interesting to listen to, finally!!
What a Beautiful Soul MrBallen is explaining to people he has been in therapy & how it has helped him & encouraging other people to do the same
I feel anger is the most common side effect of depression. That first story threw me for a loop, I didn't expect it to have a happy ending
I think sadness would be
True it is a beautiful story.
Depression is anger turned inward. I used to struggle with both, alot of anger, alot of unhealed hurt in my life.
Yes, I was pleasantly surprised by that first story.
Once you slough off the anger, there's depression underneath.
My god that last story was horrific I'm sure we have all known someone like her but man she took manipulation to a whole other level I hope everyone in Sydney who saw this episode and recognizes her gives her the grief she so deserves
Im from Sydney
I didn’t know this story. Im disgusted! Hope i run into that chick Camilla one day 😡
@@lieslvdt4455 If you do, give that scumbag the public call out and shaming she deserves. And I don't usually condone violence but a slap to the face won't do any lasting damage.... From both of us
I live in Sydney! 😳
@@FunctionalJunkie_ pls dont harrass anyone
Camilla is a trash person. I knew as soon as he said that after that long of a time of not meeting the friend was catfishing her. I was just hoping it didnt end the way it did.
Wow that first story is absolutely jaw droppingly amazing!
I am crocheting a vey cute sunflower turtle, while watching Mr. Ballen talk about mysteries story. My husband said “strange combination “
I was catfished and stalked for over 2 years by my ex girlfriend and ended up questioning my own sanity, I lost my job, had a mini heart attack and ended up in the hospital, I became isolated and severely depressed. I had dark thoughts just as Renee, and was about to do the same when unexpectedly, a childhood friend of mine, who knew I was struggling with depression sent me a photo of her and her mom and a voice message from them telling me I'm loved and that everything will be alright, to just hang in a bit longer. I broke down in tears and sought out therapy. I've since been on antidepressants and do therapy twice a week. Legislation needs to catch up to real world problems happening every day. It seems easy enough to block an account, delete social media etc... but it's not that simple.
@aaaaaaaaa depression is real. You only realize the danger after you get your head above water, after much time has passed
I met a guy and he hacked my phone over a year ago . He was watching and listening to my conversations . He’s still playing with me . I changed my phone and somehow he hacked it again . I never gave anyone my number . I think he hacked my families phones too so when I got my new phone he hacked me as I contacted my family . He’s still messing me to this day . I can’t get rid of my phone that’s the only way I can get rid of him . It’s evil And disgusting . He’s angry at me because I found out and hate him for hacking me . It’s kinda destroyed me and he won’t stop.
Damn I'm so sorry you all have gone through that!
@@mariewilson9621 seem the hacker is someone close you why not go to the police?? btw hack is not magic. to hack your phone hacker need acess to it either psychally or digitally, and you to allow indirectly
@@ribertfranhanreagen9821 I don’t know how he did it he’s an electrical engineer so maybe he’s good at that type of stuff . I don’t think he cares about the effect he had had in me and how violating and soul destroying it is .
There were a few details left out of the third story that give some interesting context. Renae had previously attempted suicide via overdosing on pills but recovered. Camilla was verbally abusive to Renae on numerous occasions, with "Brayden" at one point suggesting that Renae have sex with Camilla. Renae refused. The other detail that really intrigues me is that she had entered into a relationship with a man she worked with named Ian. At some point they got engaged even. Ian realized she was "with Brayden" and told Renae that she needed to choose which man she was going to marry. She chose "Brayden."
I think these details should have been included since not everyone is going to read the attached articles and they seem pretty important to the story. Renae's tragic suicide didn't just come out of nowhere, it was telegrammed much in advance.
This Deserves a Spotlight! Mr. Ballen, always gives dignity to the victims. However, this story goes out of the way to present it as a complete out of character behavior. The text to mom alone is alarming. A room full of people,
-> Brainstorming! Police??
i knew Camila was a lesbian! my comment was spot on.
Thank you for this. Definitely provides a lot more context. This is sick though, I hope Camilla suffers through a long life.
@Pat Luxor apparently you do 😒🙄
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I am SO glad there is more awareness about mental health & that youtubers are using their channels to promote it!!!!
the last story really got me, my two best friends in high school did this to me. Its the kind of thing that will fuck you up for the rest of your life
Renee’s story breaks my heart. I live in Sydney and around 10 years ago, I was at The Gap too with the same intention. I also texted my mum and best friends apologies and goodbyes, without telling them where I was. My mum immediately called police who traced my phone location and arrived SO fast, before I’d climbed over the railing. The Gap is a notorious suicide spot here, and there are cameras all along it for that reason, as well as suicide prevention signs and even a post with a button connecting to emergency services that urges anyone contemplating jumping to press it for help. I’m sure they already noticed me before my mum called them.. I was loitering a while deciding on the right spot to jump from.. being scared but also so deeply depressed I felt it I had to do it to end the pain. Plus there were lots of people around for the beautiful view, and I didn't want them traumatised by seeing someone die.
If only the cops could’ve done the same with her phone and stopped Renee.
There’s a story of a man living nearby who would watch the cliff from his house and go to speak to anyone he thought looked like they planned to jump. He saved a good number of people.. you can google it. Not sure if he’s still alive as I think he was an elderly gent.
I'm so glad you are still here. Sending hugs :)
I'm glad you are still with us Leigh ❤️ And I hope life treats you well 😊I did read another comment saying that he died one year before she jumped. Rest her soul ❤️ Big hugs from Norway 🇳🇴
Ima keep u in prayers
Glad you are still here today!
God bless you!
That last story was so heartbreaking. 😔💔
It’s so ridiculous that Camila got off scot free after she’s the one that lead Renae to take her own life, even more disgusting that she never took responsibility or apologized for her cruel behavior.
I’ve actually had “friends” in the past who were controlling & mean to me as well and that can REALLY mess you up emotionally, especially if you don’t really have any other friends besides them. I’m much happier now that I’ve cut those toxic friends out of my life and found the amazing friends I have now. I wish Renae’s story would’ve had a better ending. 😢
And was that a ring on her finger 😡 so she moved on and got married after what she did to Renae I’m so disgusted
💡If she had apologized, that would've put the nail in her coffin by accepting responsibility😕 People need to be more responsible when using the internet for dating, especially when they haven't met someone in person. That internet dating is just dumb in so many ways😒
Those kind of personalities never really change. IMHO
@@catherineharris4746 she wasn’t dating on the internet her “best friend” set her up. Before that she was with someone she knew and had been dating for a couple of years until the “best friend” convinced her he was cheating and broke them up.
That thar internet dating is duyumb, raught kathy??
Thank you so much for sharing your story about getting help through therapy. You’re helping so many people!
The first story was wholesome, and I wasn't expecting that
I live in Brazil, and sadly, I’ve heard worse stories. Environmentalists and anyone who tries to stop powerful people here are all brutally murder, but those cases never get enough visibility, if you could help honor those people who tried helping Brazil and lost their lives by just telling their story it would be amazing.
I just don’t get how a person goes from wanting to be the only person in someone’s life to then not even being sorry that they died. I truly don’t get it. What a monster. I’m Aussie so I’ve actually heard this story before, but this is best narration I’ve heard by far. Thanks Mr Ballen.
i hope your society cold shoulders the CRAP out of her social life and calls her out whenever possible. One girl dies, and the other gets to live like nothing happened.......ugh.
It’s all about control. Camila probably had a terrible life, couldn’t find a good man, etc so she made sure her friend Renee would not leave her, too. Camila almost certainly has a personality disorder or two, so it’s doubtful camila felt love for Renee or, most likely, anyone other than herself. It’s no surprise camila is able to continue denying culpability because that’s what people with disorder(s) do. She’s likely incapable of love, empathy, or guilt.
Go watch the show on mtv called catfish. It’s not uncommon for a friend or relative of the victim to be the one doing the catfishing. It’s ridiculous. Don’t ever have a long term relationship with anyone you’ve never met in person! 😝
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It's typically about control. They don't necessarily want to be in your life, they want to be able to tell you what to do. So when you "disobey" them, they'll get angry. 😡
Those types of people are called cluster B personality disorders. And yes, AVOID them in your life at all costs!!!
I was pleasantly surprised at the ending of the first one. Very warm. A small glimmer of light in this dark world. Thanks for that.
I've seen dozens of Mr. Ballen's videos and they're all so good but this one is the best so far.
As a Brazilian I can tell you that the second story still resonates till these days.
We strongly believe that there’s so much more behind the curtains of all this mess, including politicians and drug dealers.
Shit like the Batman movie
Yea the drug dealers are the politicians
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I had heard of the Renae Case before! The TV show “Web of Lies” featured the story and it was chilling then and it is chilling now. I’m glad you covered it Mr. Ballin, Renae’s story deserves to be told. Such a tragic loss of life for no reason other than the possessive controlling actions of a selfish monster disguising itself as a “friend.”
I was wondering how I already knew the story and you're right, it was on Web of Lies.
@bored1019 you're just as bad as the girl lol
@bored1019 Kid... chill. When you get older, you will understand the horrible ways of manipulation.
Was this Braden a bf Camilla supposedly had before her and Renae met?
@bored1019 So edgy.
I love the Lisa finds her Dad story. I wonder mathematically what the odfs are on just that happening . Fascinating 🤔
One of my favorite episodes great job Mr B such a masterful story weaver. Thanks
With the last story, I thought it was a case of the best friend and boyfriend being in cahoots to scam Renae. Boy was I wrong. It was far more heartbreaking and infuriating than I could have ever believed.
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This drives home the saying with friends like that who needs enemies
Same!
Same
The 3rd story is baffling. I can't imagine the extent that friend went to trying to keep up that facade. She must be a very desperate and very cruel person.
Karma will come calling !
The sad and horrific truth is that this story is far from being one of a kind 😔
Don't worry, there will be a special place in hell for her!
she had so much fun grinning ear to ear while comfortably sitting on her bed sending fake texts to her friend knowing exactly hows shes like and whats shes like its no wonder she made her fall head over heels with her with just text and had her hooked for years while even in "prison" with no "job". She was acting like a evil narcissistic and entitled princess ruining and wasting her so called best friend's life.
@@michaelykwon i can't believe she didn't even call him to hear his voice? and not be suspicious? so many red flags. how on earth can u be so naive to want to marry someone u havent even seen or heard
Thank you Mr Bal len for the mental health suggestion you gave after one of your pod casts. I am taking in some information and reaching out for free therapy. Thank you for your sharing and giving me the courage to reach out. Your the best
He is the best story teller I can close my eyes and picture everything like I’m in the story it’s crazy!!!