The story of Novus is so abstract I take too long to explain it

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  • čas přidán 24. 06. 2024
  • Happy May! Many have been wondering about Novus, so I have delivered a really cool and totally awesome video about some reasons as to why I feel like the world is as misguided as it is. What are your thoughts about Novus?
    I'm not that great with long form videos just yet, so any suggestions for improvement are much appreciated as well :)
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    CHAPTERS:
    0:00 - Introduction
    1:37 - Abstraction (is confusing)
    4:48 - The three core stories of Novus
    7:02 - Nothing is severely mishandled
    10:31 - Novus has a demographic problem
    12:23 - Final summary of Novus
    14:03 - Conclusion
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  • @seastorm1052
    @seastorm1052  Před rokem +32

    Well, no one ever said a singular person on the internet is the arbiter of truth. Some people have pointed out details and conversations I initially dismissed, plus shared some alternate viewpoints on some of my own opinions, so I'd like to take the time to make a few amendments.
    1. For the "concepts and ideas" part of the Nothing segment, the questions that I asked do already have answers, albeit in rather throwaway lines amidst other chaos so I'm not surprised they flew over my head until now. I was always somewhat aware that the World Synthesizer was the thing that brought Nothing into existence in the Spiral, however such a concept was never really brought up until close to the end of Lemuria, pretty much right when we were face-to-face with it. However, the other answers were phrased only ever once and in such a convoluted way. Nothing was given sentience via the Wizard becoming the Divine Paradox - I still wonder exactly how or why this would have even spawned Nothing in the first place, as there is an implication here that whatever Nothing was before, and sort of is now, bears some link to the Primordials in this way - and brought to the Spiral via the World Synthesizer that has harnessed the Song of Creation. Bartleby does say that because of the wizard becoming the Divine Paradox they are now "connected to elements more primal than I. I see all that is; you now see what never was", which really isn't all that clear what it means on first read and also is never brought up again beyond that one conversation before Lemuria.
    2. The fourth arc can be seen as a coming-of-age story, albeit very accelerated. In Karamelle, Nothing was still taking his first steps into reality, having just been born. Lemuria, he is a child seeing the world through the lens of only good and only evil, much like an actual child would. Novus can be seen as him in his teens, finally coming to realize that the world isn't as black and white as he first thought, and is now expected to grow up and mature. None of this is helped when he is suddenly thrust into the world of politics, which is a chaotic and spiteful mess with almost never any clear-cut answers to anything. However, wishing to stay within the security of his own ignorance, he retreats from the world rather than trying to come to terms with it. That may mean that in Wallaru we might see him as a new adult, finally leaving behind his childish innocence and accepting that he's all grown up now and taking more responsibility for himself and his actions.
    3. I was raised concerns about my "target demographic" section in private, and after some conversation I realize I did go a bit too hard on KingsIsle. There isn't a whole lot they can do other than work to mature the game as a whole into something more teen-adult oriented. The game feels much like a product of its time and hasn't really worked to evolve to meet the players of the present, and now it's starting to clearly show. They need to put the packs aside for a little bit and work on an overhaul - but keep the art; it's a good and iconic style - but I doubt that'll actually happened.
    To be quite frank, I think I'm giving the fourth arc a lot of flack because I'm mostly just tired and frustrated with whoever is writing the game's narrative now. I've said other times before, but no matter how good your messages or themes are, if you don't execute them well then they'll ultimately fall flat or get lost amidst the chaos. And I certainly feel like the execution for this arc has been lackluster compared to other arcs before it. Either age it up or dumb it down, because this weird in between is giving off some strange vibes in a bad way. This also isn't to discount those that like the fourth arc, either; in that case I wish that this arc was much better for you guys so that we can all enjoy it. Some people can make sense of the chaos, others cannot. So big thanks to those that have taken the time to share their ideas and opinions, it's been nice to talk about the story of something I love with others. I'll edit this comment if I think there are any other amendments I feel the need to make.

    • @TrianglePants
      @TrianglePants Před rokem

      People get what they fund, especially in gaming.

    • @apeisst
      @apeisst Před rokem

      did you type all of this wow dedication

  • @KingNuggets56
    @KingNuggets56 Před rokem +121

    Arc 4 definitely represents a shift in the narrative provided by Kingsile, shifting from more micro-level themes, Malistaire with lost love, Morganthe with revenge and a desire for power, and Spider and Raven with themes of love and reconciliation, the notion that it is never too late to give up hope. However, with arc 4, and as Bartlebey states that the Wizard's purpose has been realized and the prophecy has been fulfilled the wizard finds themself without purpose or struggling to realize their purpose. Dasein reflects the wizard in these ways, serving as an essential foil to the wizard. The wizard is figuring out what to do now that there is not some great evil force, no true purpose as their journey has been completed, and Dasein is struggling with the emptiness and seeking to create new worlds and life to find fulfillment. Ultimately the Wizard and Dasein are on the same journey, with the latter being a representation of the destruction of innocence in a harrowing world. Kingsile's exploration into the Postmodern for Novus was essential to explore these large themes of self-actualization. In the post-modern, there is no objective goal, no good vs evil, and no simple arc for the story to follow.
    This is an essential direction for the game to be going with its aging core audience. The game should continue to preserve its E rating as especially the first arc is extremely simple, full of bright colours, and (hopefully) going to become free to play, to create a barrier of entry for younger audiences for what was originally a children's game wouldn't make sense. However, in later worlds, ones that require vast time investments and know-how to complete, there is a need to explore more nuanced themes. The current largest demographic in the game is the 18-24 age range, and at this time many people are struggling with the same themes being explored in their lives, completing school, and fulfilling their purpose, only to be left alone in a world to face a set of new challenges, alike the Wizard, and Dasien. With time life confounds and Arc 4, especially Novus provides a key exploration into that. To muddle this arc down with a simple narrative as other worlds have done would be antithetical to the purpose these worlds are fulfilling and, not only for the Wizard, but the Players as well.

    • @KingNuggets56
      @KingNuggets56 Před rokem +21

      I also wanted to add that by no means is this response a criticism of the video, I thought it was very well-done! I just had came to a different conclusion on Novus as I really enjoyed it, and the shift the game has made!

    • @ed.amame_z
      @ed.amame_z Před rokem +10

      well said!

    • @roseaphile
      @roseaphile Před rokem +7

      this is exactly how i feel! while KI isn't executing it perfectly nor spending more time necessary on it (due to the nature of their writers' abilities and also the time they have to create these worlds and storylines), I loved the direction they've been going with in arc 4 and somewhat hinted at in arc 3. it's only natural that story follows with the core audience's age. as someone who got back into game as a late teenager, seeing what arc 3 and 4 was throwing at me made me pleasantly surprised as I was totally expecting the e for everyone simple story throughout ( which I wouldv'e been fine with honestly). also, yes! someone else who sees the wizard is a hero but a hero not currently needed as much as they once were. i want to see this plot thread continued bc all the not-so-young wizard has known is being useful, what happens when one's purpose is lost?

    • @gianmanp
      @gianmanp Před rokem

      This was perfectly said, thank you!

  • @Louis13XIII
    @Louis13XIII Před rokem +56

    It does makes sense, it's just a bit harder than "fight evil death professor gone rogue"

  • @pmayes00
    @pmayes00 Před rokem +26

    I personally really like arc 4. I think dasien is a great metaphor for what it's like to being thrown into this absurd world as a young adult rn. But I do wish more attention was put back on culture of the world's like it was in arc 1, 2 and until empyrea in arc 3. I've also never really been a fan of the player being the main character in video game stories. I would also say wizard101 never really liked this either because the main story has always seemed to focus heavily on the villain's character. It's why I had a bit of an eye-roll moment when they decided to throw a "you were always destined to be the hero" plot towards the very end of arc 3. I feel like wizard101's story is strongest when it's a character study first, hero's journey second. Not the other way around. I believe arc 4 still retains this core idea, but I do agree it's a little all over the place.

    • @seastorm1052
      @seastorm1052  Před rokem +2

      Definitely, the game is always at its best when it's focusing on the characters and then develop the concepts off of those interaction. Then again, I'm a sucker for any sort of meaningful character development anyways. But that's a good point, how the first and second arc were more villain-focused but the third arc wasn't, or at least not exactly in the same way. That could also be another reason why the fourth arc is so aimless, because there's no central antagonistic force to be that anchor like in the other arcs.
      However, I do argue that the Wizard was always important and rather integral to the earlier stories as well; over time they became the ace that can turn the tide of any conflict, more or less. It certainly feels like the purpose of the Wizard has been more or less forgotten about, and rather being a sort of traveling hero that gets caught up in the next big adventure they instead are just an errand runner because "I can't do it since I'm not *the Wizard*". The Wizard isn't really an active force anymore, and by proxy the player -> this is more psychological though. There needs to be some balance between the purpose of the Wizard being a part of the story and the characters participating in the story itself, as, at the end of it all, the Wizard will come out the other side with yet another accolade and it needs to feel like the player actually put in the effort to earn it.

  • @sebastiansnyder8370
    @sebastiansnyder8370 Před rokem +37

    Hello, long time viewer first time commentor, but I wanted to address some things spoken in the video. This video has been with me all day so I just wanted to give my input. I am not trying to be argumentative, but I’m also a writer and wanted to give a different perspective on the story. I have played through Novus now almost 9 times on a single wizard (my mother and father play, she has 6 wizards, he has 1, but I played once by myself, a second with her, a third with him, and then through the remaining 6) so I feel as though I know more about Novus than anyone should lol.
    Now the first thing I wanted to add to the conversation is that the stories and philosophies of Wizard101 are always having to do with morality, it is overall an in-depth morality tale of classic good vs. evil (for the most part). I like your descriptions of the arcs, however I would like to supply my own- Arc 1 is about protection (protecting wizard city, defending Krokotopia from its ancient enemies, stopping criminals from stealing intensely valuable and powerful artifacts in Marleybone, helping save Mooshu’s people, lands, spirits, and leader from dark forces, and then protecting the Spiral from the Dragon Titan) Arc 2 builds upon the protection but is about power (the Celestians withheld their power and it cost them their world, the Zafarians were free but were subjugated under powerful tyrants, Avalon is the tale of a king who used his power properly, Azteca is the result of power in the wrong hands, and Khrysalis is judgment day for those who use power but can’t control it) Arc 3, while building upon the previous themes, is forgiveness (Ivan must be forgiven for being the terrible, all of the scandalous peoples of Mirage must put aside their grudges and differences for unity against the invading Shadow, and Empyrea are the heroes and villains teaming up for a common goal. At the end, the conclusion is that paradoxically good and evil must coexist or else the Spiral would be torn a part.)
    Now we get to arc 4, which while incomplete, I would say is about the boundaries of what is right and wrong while building upon the previous themes. We have the central figure of Nana, someone who is renowned on a galactic scale for her sweets, charm, and making everyone happy. I truly believe that Nana was originally a good person and always had good intentions, however having the entire Spiral say how great she is inevitably gave her an ego. If Nana is so good, so wise, and so kind, why does she not spread her influence everywhere? Unaware that she’d be doing more harm than good, she continues to push the boundaries of economic ethics to the edge of total domination. At what point does Nana stop being a kind old woman and just become the facade of one. At least, that’s what the story of Karamelle is asking, since Nana is the central figure of that world. All of the world’s responsibilities lay upon her and what she does with that weight. Similarly, we see in Lemuria that the Old One was good intentioned, thinking stitching together the worlds was the right thing to do, however as he continued down that path, the worse things got. The responsibility drove him insane. Then we have the heroes of Lemuria, who saved the people countless times and protected them even more, not unlike our wizard. By the end though, after so many victories, it’s difficult to say what is right and wrong, and obviously they were going to make the incredibly bad decision with the world synthesizer. Once again, the responsibility of too many people matched with the ego causes good people to do bad things.
    It should be here that I point out that Dasein is not the main character, he is neither antagonist or protagonist, he is a viewer of events rather than a participant. Imagine if the central figure of a play was the 4th wall. He is like a child going through Wonderland, not knowing the limits or boundaries, but trying to learn throughout his time there. By the time Novus comes out however, he has gone from observer to participant. The Nothing has been incorporated into Something. The question Novus poses is how far is Dasein willing to literally sacrifice himself in order to make people happy, which I would say is his constant goal. The story of Novus is very hectic, I agree, but it’s supposed to be that way. Dasein is a juggler with too many pins, balls, and chainsaws while we’re supposed to pick up the stray pieces. You mentioned that there are 3 stories in Novus, however I would say there’s closer to 6. Dasein becoming something, the Spiral powers trying to take what they can get, Moo Bu trying to see if things are still worth fighting for, the Manticore’s greed for his vision, the Cabal finally regretting their actions now seeing the dangers of what true untempered power has, and the lesser characters just trying to get what they desire before anyone else, Ponce and Mario come to mind.
    While these things may seem so chaotic and infuriating to keep track of, which is the point, we must keep in mind that this is still a continuous narrative. The great revelation at the end of Novus is that no matter how much Dasein gives to the entire Spiral, it will never be enough. Only Moo Bu and ironically the Cabal realize that this amount of excess is unnecessary and they leave, while the powers and the Manticore stay for more greed. It is also very important to keep in mind that the nations we are caught in the middle of, the main villains of Novus, used to be the good guys in the previous installments. We helped Marleybone, Mooshu, and Polaris in wizard, while also helping Valencia and Monquista in pirate. These peoples are usually good, however when placed in front of endless temptation it’s hard for anyone to say no. Dasein realizes this at the very end that no matter how much he gives, they will just take and take and take until there’s nothing left of him and they are all one horrible blob monstrosity. The Nothing rejects the Everything.
    This leads us to Wallaru, which is very important to keep in mind for the overall narrative. We are in the middle of an incomplete story. We’ve had the inciting incident of Karamelle, the rising action of Lemuria, the climax of Novus, and soon the resolution in Wallaru. As a storyteller and using the context clues of the previous worlds, I have a feeling the theme of Wallaru specifically is enlightenment. The puzzle pieces that seem too chaotic will be blown away in the wind, and both we as the wizard and through the lenses of Dasein, will realize that the boundaries of what is right and wrong, what is heroic and not, doesn’t matter as long as you’re making the correct choices. I like this arc mainly because our wizard has assumed the role of a mentor to a confused child. We have experienced enough of the Spiral to not necessarily know what makes someone good or evil, as Dasein has been focused on, but enough to know what good and evil is. That is the lesson Dasein must learn in Wallaru, at least that’s my prediction.
    Overall Novus is abstract, referencing music and surrealist art a lot, mainly because the abstraction is inherently confusing and strange. At first glance it is incredibly overwhelmingly chaotic, but upon closer inspection while playing (possibly 9 times) you can see more clearly that the puzzle piece monsters are weirdly in place. Does this mean it’s well written or conveyed in the best way? No! This style of storytelling is super annoying, however I don’t think we should discredit it for trying to be more broad in its themes. I mean, even though this is a kids card game, we are still talking about a world where a man lost the love of his life and nearly brought the apocalypse because of it, and a psychopathic woman who talks about skinning people and literally committed genocide on the dinosaurs. It’s a mess, yes, but I kind of believe that’s the intention of this arc. Asking questions about morality can induce insanity, then couple that with the view point of an all-powerful being outside of reality that is basically a 5 year old, and you have the force of nature that is Dasein.
    I love this video, this video got me to think about a lot of things not just in the nature of the game, but also storytelling and life in general. I would love to continue on in an actual conversation at some point, it’s very nice to hear someone as invested in the lore as much as I am. I’m not trying to argue against anyone or defend Kingsisle for its banana spider web of a story, however I just wanted to share my point of view upon the current arc and worlds. I hope that this at least got someone to think about the game’s story a bit more, because a lot of work has gone into crafting it whether we realize it or not. Believe me, it’s tough to write. So thank you for reading this far into my comment, my first one actually, and as always I will see you in the next video. Buh bye!
    P.s. I read your ideas for a 5th arc, and I am so in love with it and instantly inspired me to work on ideas for my own. I would love to see some more things about it in much more detail. You’re incredibly talented and I’m really hoping you do more content like this in the future! Have a great day!

    • @seastorm1052
      @seastorm1052  Před rokem +5

      For the love of the stars, this is a long one! Thank you for your input; I desperately needed this extra perspective.
      For the most part I've been focused on the game's narrative devices and *how* the stories are woven together, not really the morality/ultimate meaning of each arc's story. When putting the 4th arc through that lens of self-sacrifice, temptation, and the (theoretical) exponential growth of wealth and power, it does make a lot more sense, however such a theme is pretty hidden amidst the chaos with no lifeline to the casual player, which is my biggest issue. I'm fully expecting there to be some line in Wallaru that blatantly spells everything out, which is annoying but almost necessary in this regard.
      It's sort of the same thing that happened with the third arc. It might be about forgiveness and love, but the love part in particular didn't really become a proper factor until close to the end of Empyria, and even then it had to be said almost out loud in order for me to properly get what KI was trying to go for. It really involves much deeper thinking to even arrive at that conclusion by one's self, which the casual player may or may not be able to afford to do (or even *can* do in the first place, as a lot of it is reading deeper into the characters and their actions/motivations).
      I do think your accurate with your assessment of all of the arc's ultimate moral meanings. Some are more clear than others. Though, sadly, they're not all of the same quality. Malistaire certainly has the most deep and complex arc of them all, as you can take away many different lessons from his struggles. Morganthe and the gods? Not so much. Nothing? While, yes, Wallaru hasn't come out yet, I don't really care about him one way or another so whatever he has to say is more than likely to fly over my head. It's sad how badly they bungled him.
      I am planning to cover the other arcs in their own videos, though when I get around to it I have no idea. I'll keep this stuff in mind for when that time comes, though I doubt it'll change much of what I want/have to say about them.
      Nice to meet another lore person :) Thank you again for your insight. Hope your own ideas go as well as mine. I know I have a few more left in me!
      PS: I'd love to continue this conversation elsewhere, if you're willing. If you have Discord, you can sign up to my Substack with your email and I can send you my tag that way to keep things private (or we can always email instead), or I can provide my tag publicly for a short time if you don't want to do that. Either or, or you can say no as well.

    • @roseaphile
      @roseaphile Před rokem +1

      OH MY GODDDDDDDDD, you put into words how i feel about novus so well! specifically about the abstract and chaotic ideas and themes and the general ideas of what good and evil are, who is considered a hero, and how one achieve good and peace for all. introspective stories like these all get me and so I probably spend more time and analysis on them and are more in tune with what they are trying to say. i just want to reiterate how well you explained novus that I could not 😭😭. KI isn't perfect nor is their stories nor is their writing but goddamn I am surprised by what arc 4 is giving us and I want to see how wallaru concludes everything and where the not-so-young wizrda goes from here.

    • @desirexavi
      @desirexavi Před rokem +1

      ive played through Novus 12 times. mostly on my own characters (i have 3 accounts because 2 are muted.. kingsisle man lol), and after reading your comment you explain every arc and every storyline perfectly. Arc 4 and Dasein are both my favorite arc and one of my favorite characters. I love the uniquity of it, as its different to the last 3 arcs with the overall theme being a villain with a lot of power destroying the spiral for a personal need. Malistaire for Sylvia, Raven and Spider for the world they want etc. Arc 4 breaks that pattern and there are so many underlying factors to this arc that makes me love it all the more, and the development of Daseins character from Karamelle (being like a newborn child in a sense, to in Novus a confused teen as you mentioned) is so interesting and clever to me. I'm more excited for Wallaru than anything else KI could bring (other than a Pirate world.. PLEASE.), mainly because im eager to see how they wrap up this storyline and a personal reason because I've heard its based off Australia, which is where I'm from. I dont see much of anything like Australia in most games other than deserts, which is annoying because nobody lives anywhere near the deserts here! (other than a select few farmers or things, you know). So, I'm kind of hoping its more a combination of desert and forest / greenery type world or even an area that focuses on beaches since thats what Australia is known for. back on track though, arc 4 definitely has a good storyline and it has been well thought out, probably just wasnt presented in the best way. im huge on storylines in any game, so its great to meet someone who knows what they're talking about and can explain every detail with 100% accuracy. god bless! I'd love to play through new content with someone as lore crazy as me as the few friends I have on discord who play definitely arent as hyped on story as i am lol

    • @seastorm1052
      @seastorm1052  Před rokem

      @@desirexavi If that's the case then you should certainly come and join the Discord server (in the description) and/or stop by for a Friday stream. I love talking about Wizard101 lore too and this video has certainly been a massive learning experience for Novus and in general the fourth arc as a whole. I'm working on other arc analysis videos and if you'd like to contribute any ideas I'd be happy to take them into consideration.

    • @solosully2527
      @solosully2527 Před rokem

      Longest comment I’ve ever read

  • @gaianexv2109
    @gaianexv2109 Před rokem +7

    Kind of funny how we end Novus as public enemy #1 in the eyes of the big Spiral Powers. I honestly hope KI actually make that mean something, like have the Arcanum scold the Wizard for getting involved into politics or have some of the soldiers from those worlds track the Wizard down to imprison them for interfering.

  • @cami5173
    @cami5173 Před rokem +7

    bro what the fuuuuck there are that many worlds now??? Btw you were on my front page recommended and I'm 100% new to your channel! loved the video and subbed!

  • @Frogz313
    @Frogz313 Před rokem +18

    Thank you for making this, I hope Kingsile sees it and takes notes!

    • @TrianglePants
      @TrianglePants Před rokem

      That's if there's any passionate energy left in there anymore.
      Lotta snark since BEFORE they got bought out.

  • @HaloShady
    @HaloShady Před rokem +5

    Great video storm, i feel like no one has really ever talked about their concerns for the overall story. Really enjoyed hearing your viewpoint :D

  • @infenvr
    @infenvr Před 10 měsíci +4

    I think “The Devourer” from the Catacombs could be one of those Outer Beings. I really hope Wallaru fixes the story and makes sense of it all…
    And to how Nothing exists now, I think that when we became the giant paradox scion thingy, it caused some sort of ripple that resonated throughout the entirety of not only The Spiral, but the entirety of existence, which allowed the Nothing to somehow access The Spiral?
    Still a little confused haha, but as a fellow writer, I really hope KI will continue to make a great story.

  • @Little_Writer148
    @Little_Writer148 Před měsícem

    Really for someone who has less then 2k subscribers they explained the topic so well and they are just so dedicated they made a entire cartoon character for themself Im subscribing for sure after that

  • @magers2210
    @magers2210 Před 11 měsíci +3

    I believe the Monquistans are more Portuguese rather than italian, due to Ponce De Gibbon, and the Portuguese also did a lot more naval exploration (and exploration in general) in comparison to the Italians. It’s definitely just a mixture of Spain and Portugal during their age of exploration, but with the existence of Valencia in the Spiral it’s easy to conclude which one is more inspired by which

    • @seastorm1052
      @seastorm1052  Před 11 měsíci +1

      5:20
      Valencia is the world with the silver gear and gold rose, and Monquista is blue with the yellow bananas. I've referenced throughout the video as Italians being Valencians and Spaniards being Monquistans.

  • @a.dykeman1980
    @a.dykeman1980 Před rokem +7

    With all of this said, I think the conclusion is that Wallaru is going to become a bit of a “Put up or shut up” moment for the writing team at KingsIsle. Arc 4 is highly ambitious, and KI are juggling a lot of plot threads with Novus on particular… and the handling of Novus is rightfully raising questions about whether or not they can keep up the juggling. I don’t think it’s out-of-the-question that they can tie up these threads and finish the act off well, but if they bungle Wallaru, it’s going to reflect pretty poorly on their overall ability to tell stories, and it’s going to stick with them.

  • @ecogirl2759
    @ecogirl2759 Před rokem +3

    Marleybone go weee XD
    Love the editing, dude! Amazing job, 100/10
    Edit: My new favorite quote is "Oh dear, I've lost my marbles!"

    • @ecogirl2759
      @ecogirl2759 Před rokem

      MOFUGGIN BANANA NOISES
      I agree XDDD

  • @gregnashe3161
    @gregnashe3161 Před rokem +1

    I really do love the lore of the game so please do more and thanks for being the only one to accumulate the info. The lore is also hidden in some side quest like zeak’s or his wife’s side quest in Aztecs for the tomes. Even Nothing was mention in a calamari side quest when trying to break the death chain for empyrIa

  • @patelmalavdev
    @patelmalavdev Před rokem +2

    I think KI should have just progressed the story in xianxia route, showing that Spiral was just another tiny backward place in a Grander spiral because we as a player have already become being that are existing outside the Spiral and can exist and see the outside

  • @philipliu2092
    @philipliu2092 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Im so happy I found this channel! I was thinking about your pov on how Wizard101 story telling is going downhill starting arc 3. I used to care for the story and find the quests Im doing meaningful and serve a purpose. Nowadays I find myself hardly listening skipping over text just wanting to finish the quest for the xp and level up to max. The quality of writing isn't the same and the story isn't worth wanting to know more about. I felt like the Nothing character and story he brings is too confusing and Wizard101 themselves cant figure out their view on him as well. Leaving it to us the players to make up all these theories about him. Love the content I hope you make more videos.

  • @modeathkill
    @modeathkill Před 11 měsíci

    great job explaining the lore im a old player who hasn't played since 2014 and these lore vidoes got me up to date!

  • @Nightshade_Realm
    @Nightshade_Realm Před 10 měsíci

    You have a very charming style! It reminds me of video essayist's like Explanation Point and it's a shame you don't get more views. Your videos are well edited, snappy, and concise. Easy to watch and enjoyable!

  • @KeyScales
    @KeyScales Před 7 měsíci +2

    The main reason I started playing Wiz was because of the story. Arc 1- 3 was pretty great with superb world building, a good plot and interesting villains. Arc 4 so far I don't really care about, the cliffhanger for arc 4 was pretty good, but it feels like a let-down and a waste of potential. Nothing's whole plot is just super boring to me, like why should I care about this thing and his problems? He doesn't hurt anyone, right? If so, dude needs to stop asking me all these existential questions about life and exists like bro doesn't need a wizard, he needs therapy. And the worlds of this arc are god awful graphically, but also design wise too. Krahmelle hurts my eyes, the world with the lemurs is just a mess of reused assets, and Novus hurt my brain.

  • @benjaminmoultrup786
    @benjaminmoultrup786 Před 2 měsíci

    bartelbey actually briefly explained how the wizard can see dasein before you enter karamelle. i don’t remember his exact explanation but it had something to do with the wizard becoming the divine paradox

  • @TheRevivist
    @TheRevivist Před 10 měsíci +1

    I'm ngl, this world got really old once I realized this questline was just going to be trying to please everyone cause they're all fighting over resources and land and whatnot. But I did enjoy the super mario reference even thou it was quite random. (Mario, Daisy, and Peach)

  • @williamr3269
    @williamr3269 Před 11 měsíci +3

    I was really excited for Novus. The style was really intriguing. I just think the whole "politics" stuff caught me off guard and I never recovered. I was expecting an Alice in Wonderland type of adventure (cannot explain, just a vibe) and it ended up with MC babying adults? It felt off. I did like it, but more of what they could've done rather than what was actually done

  • @alex140i3
    @alex140i3 Před rokem +1

    man these comments are too much for my 12am brain to handle love the lore videos as i am a spacebar spammer when playing (started in 2013 and still just geting to avalon lol) and it is cool to see wizard 101 lore makeing people talk about morality, types of writing and ways of talking about a theme/story, and relateing the game to what most of the players at endgame are dealing with in real life. keep it up and hope to see more.

  • @doodlebees
    @doodlebees Před rokem

    i’m so happy to see another author who was inspired by wizard101!

  • @juliamhulsey
    @juliamhulsey Před rokem

    Man. I hated going though novus so much that I literally skipped all the dialogue. Thank you for this vid queen

  • @bazookabullet101
    @bazookabullet101 Před rokem

    Also the text at 7:09 is very helpful at clarifying your point, but it’s barely on screen long enough to read or even pause on

  • @casterknot5094
    @casterknot5094 Před 5 měsíci

    Three, six, and nine. Is a piece about dancing and depicts abstract couple dancing in a dip

  • @glowtail3744
    @glowtail3744 Před rokem +2

    I mean I'm seeing arc 4 espeicailly novus as a preparation arc for a war in arc 5.
    We could be seeing another great powers war like explained in pirate101. I'm gonna also guess the player becomes the main enemy and is allied with the arcanum council of light, khrysalis, zafaria, dragonspyre ghosts, the titans and wallaru if wallaru doesnt discard the player and call them evil.
    Arc 5 could genuinly become the arc of war. We could aee a war to claim novus and the beyond worlds.

  • @ggtripz
    @ggtripz Před 10 měsíci

    I'm now your 871st subscriber, don't forget!!!!

  • @PotatoAgent05
    @PotatoAgent05 Před rokem +1

    Yea I agree with you especially with the storytelling. I think that ever since the beginning of the 4th arc that wiz started to lose its feeling of magic and fantasy. The latest world Novus just felt like the devs didnt know what to do and decided to put a lot of random things together, literally just look at the final boss of the world.

  • @LogiicRemiix
    @LogiicRemiix Před rokem

    I’ve learned my best friend when it comes to the story line is the space bar

  • @samuelhadjaissa5201
    @samuelhadjaissa5201 Před rokem +2

    heres the things about Nothing that I feel like were already explained
    1. the reason why Nothing was tied to Musciology is because the device that brought Lemuria together played the song of creation which had to power make something out of nothing I.E manifested the nothing into something
    2. The nothing explained that before he used to just be a dot that wasn't aware of anything and it was only when the Wizard channeled the Divine Paradox was he made aware of reality and so he decided to copy him, he didn't wield light or dark he just was copying what the wizard did
    3. Bartleby already explained that after we channeled the the divine Paradox powers into the Chaos heart that we became connected to powers more primal then him, i.e he see's all that is, we now see what never was
    The story about the nothing is more about learning what it mean to exist, At first he was just a simple abstract being that only copied what he first see's ,in Lemuria he see's how people try to define what it means to be a hero, and after seeing that these heroes were willing to do harmful things when they believe they are doing good her begins to develop his own morality of wanting to help instead of hurt, but during the Novus arc he wants to help by being a part of reality but is still trying his best to open his frame of mind which he can't do at the moment as eh is currently dealing with the other political powers quarrels, and here begins to see that good and bad isn't as black and white as he originally thought and that its so much harder to do good

    • @seastorm1052
      @seastorm1052  Před rokem +2

      I did find Bartleby's line about Nothing. While all of this is correct, it's frustrating that their importance was not emphasized properly in their respective moments and felt more like quick excuses rather than proper explanations as to who Nothing is. These details are primed to go right over one's head, or at least mine anyways since I didn't flag these details as important whenever I encountered them. The bit about the World Synthesizer, for example, wasn't really made all that clear until roughly the end of Lemuria, and even then it was only ever lightly touched upon as the reason as to why Nothing can exist. You think there'd be a little more fanfare about how he was made and what he's made of.
      Amazing what you learn when you get other people's opinions. Thank you for your input and have a good day :)

    • @samuelhadjaissa5201
      @samuelhadjaissa5201 Před rokem +2

      @@seastorm1052 I can get what you are saying, but I felt like it was told in a very specific way that emphasizes intrigue, "I see all that is, you now see what never was"
      To me the Nothing is an abstract, but is something that a lot fictions have dealt with for example "The Pattern screamers from the SCP universe" or "The Watchers from league of legends" all abstract beings that don't exist coming to become aware of the world around them

  • @ugandabeans2669
    @ugandabeans2669 Před rokem

    I love wiz ur a good creator

  • @stefanielonn4164
    @stefanielonn4164 Před 5 měsíci

    Update December 2023-January 2024: no 5th world for arc 4. You can put a big red X over that

  • @dawnmillow8786
    @dawnmillow8786 Před 3 měsíci

    I'm glad to see someone actually caring about the story line of the game because it seems like most players and wiztubers just care about the game play and pvp. I personally enjoy arc 3, especially Emperya, but I do admit the very ending of the arc was very cheesy and not wrapped up well. However, Arc 4 in general was a mess to me and it's really confusing. Like I understand Kingisle was trying to do something different, but they failed because the story line was hard to understand nd not a good way.
    In my opinion, the story line peaked in Arc 2, especially in Khrysalis. The story line was the most mature, the world design and characters were beautiful, and the introduction to shadow magic was peak story. Also, the introduction to the old cob was amazing too.

  • @MauveTS
    @MauveTS Před 9 měsíci +1

    With your outer beings idea it can honestly really make the story make sense imo
    With the whole us going super scion and flowing with power to take down the titan it could've "unbalanced" the spiral in a way and the nothing could've entered the spiral through us throwing it off
    And the whole thing of arc 4 being about him but not actually and instead is overshadowed by other plots, it makes sense because he wouldn't truly belong in the spiral, novus being the crazy world it is makes sense because it was made through the nothing, something that isn't meant to be in the spiral, an anomaly
    And so the arc 4 stories not being about the nothing and instead being about their problems instead of the nothing's problems feels as if its the spiral trying to balance out the anomaly by trying to drown it out, however the nothing persists and continues to exist within the spiral
    Maybe at one point in the story the nothing will either be integrated into the spiral and truly exist inside of it or be thrown back out of the spiral and so everything can be balanced and feel right again

  • @lanceb1848
    @lanceb1848 Před rokem

    Nice video storm. I agree with a lot of the stuff you said and I personally disagree with some. I think you hit the nail on the wall with the cabal being shoehorned and lame and I also want to give you credit for opening my eyes with the nothing/dasien’s character being mishandled (with the exception of karamelle). I respectfully disagree with what you said about the arc as a whole. I believe that arc 4 kinda mirrors arc 2 in some ways, for example; I think Karamelle has some parallels with celestia, namely with the other main character of the arc coming at the end (morganthe was a villian and dasien is ig), Not only that but i feel as though they did the nothings intro alright, it was similar to how you don’t see morganthe until the end of celestia. I’m personally excited for wallaru because we’ve seen them make mid worlds (most of arc 2 and Lemuria for arc 4) and then come out with a banger for the finale world. I think the problem KI has done with the storytelling in the 4th arc is that the worlds aren’t long enough. Karamelle was a perfect length for the first world in the arc, lemuria was an alright length but the world was mid, and novus was too short (shorter than karamelle i believe), it’s just a recipe for a rushed and incomplete arc. Novus should’ve been around 100-115 quests, Of course they could make wallaru a banger but if it is the final world, how long will it be? If they want to tie loose ends then it needs to be at least empyrea length, and i agree with whoever said that Wallaru is a put up or shut up world. All in all storm you make valid points and i give you hella credit for being one of the only people talking about how the arc is not the best.

  • @hawkules3333
    @hawkules3333 Před rokem

    12:12 THAT'S THAT ONE GAME

  • @sveipr6516
    @sveipr6516 Před 9 měsíci

    While I'm okay with the arc 4 worlds having their own contained stories/issues going on that we need to help solve as all worlds have that, the one thing I am missing from this arc is that there really isn't a main villain we're pursuing... First we had Malistare who we were chasing across worlds to stop him from summoning a titan to revive his dead wife, next was Morganthe who we were jumping around worlds to build allies to stand against her plot for revenge and her attempt at recreating the spiral, and even Spider we were chasing his children down across worlds to stop him from straight up destroying the spiral. I assumed arc 4 would have a similar situation with them introducing the cabal as a "secret" society to oppose the arcanum with the old one being the next big bad, but the old one and the entire cabal get sidelined to introduce the nothing.... and the nothing isn't even an antagonist, it just seems like we're meandering around the spiral while the nothing just tags along having an existential crisis.

  • @lanceb1848
    @lanceb1848 Před rokem +1

    I wonder if anyone else see’s this how i do, but i hope the manticore isn’t a one- -and-done villain. Even though KI hasn’t done enough with the cabal in arc 4, i have a different interpretation of the cabal in arc 4. I believe and I think the manticore is important because it really shows how far the cabal is insane for the first world. I think the two cabal higher ups we’ve seen in arc 4 represent a spectrum kinda like how the left and the right is in real life. You go so far on either spectrum that they end up being similar (this isn’t political, i’m using this to drive my point). The old one and the manticore both are cabal, but they are on separate sides of the spectrum. In Lemuria the old one wanted to play god and it ended up more or less with a ‘survival of the fittest’ mantra for his perfect world. The manticore on the other hand had his vision of perfection and it was a horrific being, but the point of emphasis the manticore had was ‘perfection’. Both we’re passionate about the goals and they ended up being similar because both their plans come out with a hellish/monstrous society (the old one with the survival of the fittest and the manticore with literal monsters). Not only that but the other members we see (quake, copy cat, and judge veg) are sheep. (Judge veg in karamelle literally states “i didn’t see eye to eye with the old one but he was vegan so he got a pass”) and the cabal soldiers in novus more or less say they don’t know what’s going on, they just take orders. I know this is my 2nd comment but it’s just an interesting thought i had.

  • @FaeMagic
    @FaeMagic Před 9 měsíci +1

    Unrelated note, but i thought the introduction of musicology was... kinda dumb? It's just life magic without the plants.

  • @nicros244
    @nicros244 Před 9 měsíci +1

    arc 4's villains seem to be decentralized and pervasive in a way that is less obvious than the previous 3 arcs and seems more pertinent to the real world. it has more to do with power structure than individual deficits. It relates to light and shadow in the sense that the wizard, dasein, and people in general, are both. we hope for light and act on it like the hamsters of karamelle, the heroes in lemuria, and the desire for infinite resources from ordinary people in novus, but shadow follows inevitably as people are exploited for their goals. dasein's existence is a dissatisfied realization utopia and dystopia are basically the same thing. i think wallaru is going to be a dream world in that imitates aboriginal australia as utopia. the center of the world is going to be a town and the outskirts are going to be humans working to sustain nature and work in its flow. the conflict might be, in a larger sense, representative of the climate crisis and its effects on nature and the challenge will be to learn the ways of animals from the world like zander and acting as stewards for nature, rather than in excess like novus.

    • @nicros244
      @nicros244 Před 9 měsíci

      i think the 5th arc could potentially be more hopeful but this whole arc seems to be an exploration of the human, and with wallaru nature's, condition and how on a macro-scale, it has been tragic.

  • @gianmanp
    @gianmanp Před rokem +1

    Honestly.... I thought Lemuria was still MUCH more confusing than NOVUS. Still don't understand what lemurias role was, how was it made, who the tests were meant for, and why there was a scion? Novus was very straight forward and I understood 95% of it, including also that I thought focusing internally on the world problems was much better than, for example, Wizard City-Khrysalis try to stop the impending doom of Morganthe or Malistaire to destroy the spiral. I guess it all comes down to personal taste. Dasein's character for me was extremely interesting because its something we haven't seen before, it made me reflect and see different sides. Could the arc be written much better? OF COURSE. Karamelle was a mess unrelated to Dasein like Celestia was with Morganthe, and Lemuria has me with a massive ????, but NOVUS was enjoyable to me, it was funny and touched tough subjects.

  • @a_was_here6173
    @a_was_here6173 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Did you forgot krok world , with the slavery

  • @cuhdayy
    @cuhdayy Před 9 měsíci

    Novus feels more like a throwaway world than Wysteria and Grizzleheim (before Wintertusk).

  • @tasosGRvocals
    @tasosGRvocals Před rokem

    I took a big break after lemuria and haven't played novus at all, but what im thw world happened with that world, gosh 😅

  • @dujourpaulson8001
    @dujourpaulson8001 Před rokem +1

    Aren’t the Diplomats of Novus mean in their own ways (with the minor exception of Don Manzana)

  • @zenzarad9584
    @zenzarad9584 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Absolutely HATE Novus with a purple passion. Makes no sense whatsoever. I ran it once, and despite my love of Wallaru, I dont EVER wanna run Novus again.

  • @sylvyal_
    @sylvyal_ Před 7 měsíci

    I’m so late to this, so I apologize… towards the end, you talk about how people seem to not care too much about the story anymore, and frankly I definitely agree… I always felt like an outlier loving the story of this game whereas everyone else just is PvP minded and constantly hard questing through worlds just to get gear to do more pvp… It’s disappointing and it seems like the devs are in the same mindset anymore, and it reflects in the story. It seems so convoluted and lazy as of late and don’t even get me started on the world design I think I could go on a tangent about that for HOURS. Thank you for pointing a lot of this out though, not a lot of people do so, it’s frustrating when there’s a good frame for a story but it’s not taken to its full potential, especially in the case of a story you’ve invested thousands of hours of time into over the course of 10+ years of following it.

  • @arthuraznaurov1549
    @arthuraznaurov1549 Před rokem

    Most likely the nothing is coming from the player and we will find out how it got attached to us in Wallaru

  • @Steevvee
    @Steevvee Před 7 měsíci

    i have to disagree with you. Finding this mysterious figure who tells tales of the first world ever created which is trapped in time is an amazing reason to listen to him. We are adventures after all, also novus starts slightly confusing but its easy to understand towards the end.

  • @decreer4567
    @decreer4567 Před měsícem

    You are like the real life version of Mabel from gravity falls who happens to like Wizard101.

  • @dujourpaulson8001
    @dujourpaulson8001 Před rokem +1

    Karamelle = Germany 4:21
    Belgium =
    Portugal =

  • @Michaelg3221
    @Michaelg3221 Před 9 měsíci

    I personally think novus was a mix of nostalgia, cameo(like most of wizard101), philosophy, and maybe even Christianity, in regards specifically to revelations

  • @FunnyDude119
    @FunnyDude119 Před 7 měsíci

    why are the horses, called Valencians, Italian?!?!?! my brain is actually melting.

  • @musictree_101
    @musictree_101 Před rokem

    This arc does a lot of stuff. It can get pretty confusing pretty quickly. I can see how it can be difficult and frustrating. I have quite a different opinion on the world and arc. Personally I’m enjoying it so far. I like when stories ask moral or philosophical questions. It’s fascinating food for thought. Here are some of my thoughts on the points/questions you raised in the video.
    On Dasein:
    1: The world synth allowing him to exist was because the device was playing a synthesized version of the song of creation.
    2: I don’t think Dasein’s connection is necessarily to Light and Shadow, but to the “paradoxical” nature of Paradox magic. Because nothing being something is a paradox.
    3: Paradox magic connects the Wizard and Dasein. Wizard is the Divine Paradox, and after becoming the Divine Paradox they gained the connection to the Nothing (especially since the Nothing was “created” by the Divine Paradox’s reality piercing magic).
    On friendship: I think the writers opted for showing how the Wizard and Dasein became friends in Lemuria rather than telling. In real life, we can still perceive our friends as friends without calling one another friends.
    Dasein being a good friend is another matter. Up to the player to decide whether Dasein is a good friend or not.
    I think that this arc as a whole is more introspective and philosophical than the rest (hence the lack of action and grandstanding/complaining that you are noticing). The way I see it, it’s not a bad thing. We get to see the character’s internal conflicts in a unique situation (Dasein kind of is playing God in a parallel to the Old One, but handles it very differently). But it’s just my subjective take on it.
    On the black hole point: It might have something to do with the order/length of time that the entities were inside the nothing space in Karamelle? The Old One was the first thing to be consumed by Dasein, maybe he was too busy focusing on him to bother absorbing everyone else. You are right though, this wasn’t really explained.
    Why was Dasein “asleep” in the first place? Well, he was never really asleep because he didn’t exist. He wasn’t sentient. He was Nothing and only experienced Nothing until the Divine Paradox changed that.
    As for the conclusion, I do agree that there was not enough of Dasein. I’m hoping Wallaru focuses on him but I’m not so sure. To be fair, in a lot of the worlds of the other arcs, there is a lot of being caught up in their affairs before moving onto the next world and having the same thing happen until the finale. I mean, I’m pretty certain we’ve gotten more of Dasein than we have of Malistaire and Morganthe, for example, because the Wizard is always chasing and only occasionally coming across them. And to your point about events not being initiated by the Wizard, I disagree. The Wizard’s Paradox event caused Old One consumption and on. As for the lack of narrative through line without Dasein, yes that is true. What is the through line of Arc 2 without Morganthe?
    I am also confused about your point about none of Arc 4 having to happen if the Wizard decided to walk away. Why is this bad, in your opinion? (Interestingly enough this does fit what the writers have said about Arc 4 having the Wizard as the “villain” role of the arc and the catalyst like the previous villains).
    That’s all I got for now. Thanks for making content about the story/lore of the game, it is sorely underrated.
    Edit: clarified the “asleep” point

    • @TheBryguy515
      @TheBryguy515 Před 7 měsíci

      Dasein wasn't 'asleep' it wasn't sentient, more so in the context that he wasn't a 'being' IT WAS NOTHING, literal nothingness, it's very hard for the human mind to grasp that notion/concept if you could even call it that. Think of it like a blank canvas, because the wizard 'pierced' a hole into the canvas, you could say it created a singularity/anomaly, that being Dasein.

    • @musictree_101
      @musictree_101 Před 7 měsíci

      @@TheBryguy515 you’re right, asleep is definitely the wrong word to use here. I think I used that word in response to what seastorm said at around 10:20 “we still don’t know why Dasein was asleep in the first place” (paraphrasing here). Storm used the word “asleep” so I used it to directly respond to that point. But since it leads to inaccuracies, I’ll correct it. Thanks!

  • @BurningAzure
    @BurningAzure Před rokem

    Why do you have World 5 scribbled out?

    • @seastorm1052
      @seastorm1052  Před rokem +1

      I was told that there'd not be another world after Wallaru, and I was lazy and didn't want to remove it :p

  • @primella8135
    @primella8135 Před 9 měsíci

    I think the issue is that we just don’t know anything about the old one unlike malistre,Morganthe and old cob there isn’t much info on the old one but from my understand we are a living paradox at least we were we are the only living paradox with maybe only bartebly has the capability or doing so because we are a living paradox we can understand and comprehend the old one since him being in the spiral is a paradox itself and we are the ones that opened the spiral for him to enter so only we can interpret and understand the living paradox we also did start the 4th arc because of us the cavities started and the old one came

  • @Snomwithaknife420
    @Snomwithaknife420 Před 5 měsíci

    It feels like Novus and the 4th arc is heavily inspired by Lovecraft and his works and tried to incorporate Lovecraftian horror into a political-historical narrative. But failing to realize both
    1) the inner workings of lovecraft and the why people love it so much.
    2) why these sorts of long standing political bickering between nations happen or why these sorts of conflicts arise in the first place.
    I’m not saying a lovecraftian story with the end goal of “these disputes are ultimately pointless in the grand scheme of things and are humanity’s feudal attempts at survival against a cold unforgiving universe.” It’s just that KingsIsle doesn’t want to deep dive into horror and give a story like Arc 4’s the actual depth and care it deserves.

    • @Snomwithaknife420
      @Snomwithaknife420 Před 5 měsíci

      (Pt2)
      Which ultimately feels like a slap in the face of people who really enjoy lovecraft or (ironically) wartime based stories. They tried to shove two polar opposite story elements together without figuring out how that functions. Instead resulting in confused players who don’t understand the underlying themes and dynamics. While also spitting on players who understand one or both of those elements.

  • @SerZephirin
    @SerZephirin Před rokem

    6:16 no way the manticore is just emet-selch from hydaelyn lol

  • @tangostacker4745
    @tangostacker4745 Před rokem +1

    i mean there is slavery in krok

  • @Mob78
    @Mob78 Před rokem

    If novis is about abstraction, I hope that wallaru or another world is based off of surrealism, like a studio Ghibli movie.

  • @Cerdmasterjgcc
    @Cerdmasterjgcc Před 23 dny

    i jsvent done wallaru yet but i saught a vieeo on exactly this because novus felt uncohesive

  • @david.g.9349
    @david.g.9349 Před rokem

    Why do you refer to Dasein as Nothing though most of the video instead of their chosen name

    • @seastorm1052
      @seastorm1052  Před rokem +1

      Nothing is easier for me to remember how to pronounce than Dasein. I didn't want to do multiple retakes of me trying to say Dasein correctly, as I often mispronounce it.

  • @salimismail6859
    @salimismail6859 Před 9 měsíci

    Polaris is VERY Clearly based off of St. Peter's burg Russia, not France.

  • @desirexavi
    @desirexavi Před rokem

    if the Nothing didnt exist in the firstplace, you wouldnt be left with short stories. You'd be left, with quite literally Nothing. If Dasein didn't exist, we wouldn't be called to Karamelle, Lemuria wouldn't exist / be as unstable or as threatening to the Spiral as it is (since the Old One would still be alive/ not consumed by Dasein), therefore making Novus non-existant since Dasein IS Novus.. The way I took it in each time playing the worlds, Dasein is just the link. I personally really like the storyline, despite how confusing it can be. If I had to try and explain Novus quickly with minimal details, It'd be something like this.
    The Nothing, aka Dasein (which i'll refer to him as for less confusing purposes), along with the wizard (us) is trying desperately to bring peace to the Diplomats (Marleybone, Valencia, Monquista and Polaris) and ensure all factions are neutral and happy. Instead, us and Dasein find ourselves dealing with these leaders whose primary motives are power, territory, and in some cases wealth. In trying to make everyone happy, Dasein only makes each individual situation worse by for example giving Polaris unlimited food/fish, Valencia is losing profit, therefore making Valencia unhappy. By then attempting to make Valencia happy, it hurts the Monquistans and its just a vicious cycle. In the midst of all that, Dasein is barely able to think for himself. After countless efforts of just trying to make the Diplomats meet at a mutual point and have peace, he begins to lose his mind, and believe he is better off as 'Nothing' instead of 'Everything', literally and metaphorically. Literally, rejecting the Wizard, Novus, the Diplomats, the issues on the world, everything. Metaphorically? also.. everything. He IS Novus, he IS the 'Everything' of all the issues that he's been trying to rid, so he sees himself as the issue and believes that if he didnt exist in the first place, everyone would be at peace. While yes, if he didn't exist, Novus wouldn't even be a topic of discussion in the first place, Nana would still run Karamelle. Lemuria's leyline mana flow issue would be inevitable, and for Wallaru well, we'll have to see when that comes out, but judging by the last dialogue in Novus, the Wizard would've never been labeled as a 'bad guy' and wouldn't be on the run from unhappy leaders all over the spiral.
    I myself enjoy the storyline of Dasein. Being and feeling like Nothing, to believing in yourself and doing your best to help others, then only to fail, fall deeper than when you were originally feeling like nothing, and come to believe that the world and 'everything' would be better off if you never existed. While it is confusing, and definitely didn't reach the "abstract" goal that KI was going for, I'm able to make sense of it myself if I think about it hard enough.
    Which yes, before you say, a good story shouldn't need to be thought hard about to make sense. but personally, I'd rather this storyline than just another Villain that wants to destory the spiral one way or another, like literally every other arc we've had so far.. Malistaire destorying the spiral to bring back his wife, Morganthe wanting to unweave the spiral (so destroy it..) and Raven and Spider wanting to bring back the first world and make it how it used to be. All while different underlying plotlines; Love, Power, and i guess old times for spider and raven, its the same old. Villains wanting to destroy the spiral, us having to save it. Which is what makes Arc 4 more interesting for me and something I'm actually really looking forward to playing through.

    • @desirexavi
      @desirexavi Před rokem +1

      I do agree in the fact that it definitely wasn't executed properly, if at all. It could have been done a lot better. But I do still see the overall message and development they're trying to give Dasein through his personal storyline. The main issue is just having too many mini storylines going on at once, making it way too dificult to pick up the story on the first or even second playthrough. I barely understood what was going on until I'd finished Novus multiple times. I'm a Wiz veteran, or even an OG, I've played since 2008 and I have 12 maxes, more being worked on (2 are muted.. its kingsisle, i dont need to explain why lmao). Some may see it as me having rose colored glasses on like you said, but someone who does would have no criticisms. Since no other arc were really fully unique, Arc 4 gets me much more intrigued. It does have issues, like other arcs have a few major plotholes, like how not doing Grizzleheim essentially means Raven would never even have been released from her imprisonment, to name one massive plothole. Arc 4 is one of my favorites story wise (Daseins storyline specifically), because its different. Hard to understand? definitely. Could've been done better? oh for sure. no doubt.

  • @MGJ182
    @MGJ182 Před 11 měsíci

    KingsIsle's attempt in making an abstract story was so well-realized visually, but the writing is not up to par at all. It's as if they can't decide between their audiences: do we make children's stories that try to teach a moral or allegories of physical and abstract phenomena and thought? They obviously and maybe justifyingly don't know-- they've chosen a rather difficult position for their storytelling setting. Though that does not excuse their complete inability to deliver something more succinct towards the true subjects of matter: Dasein, the Cabal and so on. They put placeholder characters fighting childishly against one another, and this facade doesn't convince me this isn't just a time-wasting money trap.

  • @RealFroggo
    @RealFroggo Před rokem +1

    I disagree with the "french" That would be Russia because Rasputin.

    • @seastorm1052
      @seastorm1052  Před rokem +2

      The Bastille (and the storming of the Bastille) is French.

  • @Cyborgzerozero9
    @Cyborgzerozero9 Před rokem +1

    There was a story? I just kept skipping the dialogue.

  • @Gojirex
    @Gojirex Před 28 dny

    Is this play about us

  • @randomninja7632
    @randomninja7632 Před rokem +1

    A few things
    It never clicked for me that novus was about the scramble for Africa
    My favorite part of novus is when you explain economics to design, as it implies that you pull out and start drawing graphs.
    More importantly, I think arc 4 is TRYING (not succeeding) to write about what keeps people from tearing each other apart
    Karamelle could be read as a analysis on how leaders affect us, as when the old one disappeared the cabal went into anarchy and nana’s leadership drove it into the ground
    Lemurs could be read as how ideals can keep people together, as the hero’s all have the same philosophy, even to their undoing
    And novus could be read about how our ambitions and desires affect theses around us. Desires Left unchecked destroy the world
    And finally, from what we know, wallaru could be read as how memories affect our relationships
    That’s just my take on the 4th arc after some thought. The writing has some failings, but they might be able to pull through. I hope

  • @antepa112
    @antepa112 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Nothing isn't "nothing" anymore after it absorbed the Old One. So I don't understand the points you made when talking about it's character. Nothing was created after the events of Empyrea and it tried to find the wizard because the wizard is the reason it was created after piercing reality. And after failing to find the wizard it accidentally "devouered" the Old One and later "merged" with it after the events of Karamelle, it wasn't really "nothing" anymore since it had Old One's memories and thoughts and started becoming more and more sentient and understanding.
    EDIT: But I do think that KingsIsle is a bit hypocritical in terms of how mature the newer worlds are. They aim at kids when they do actually know that like 99% of the players are 18+, which is evident from the newer worlds. They ban players and mute them for stupid reasons and put up these rules of how you should talk on the server instead of making the chat more free and stop with the hall monitor stuff like we're primary school kids.

    • @shammardowe7797
      @shammardowe7797 Před 7 měsíci

      Nothing is still nothing even after consuming the old one. It just was appearing to the wizard in his form. It just became conscious when the wizard became the divine paradox.

  • @commanderblackheart5856

    Personally, i'm just salty that Khrulhu isn't a part of this...
    ...YET!

    • @kodyturner3615
      @kodyturner3615 Před 5 měsíci

      I get what you mean. Like The Old One very clearly is important yet…is dead. I wish they made this arc a lot more creepy and uncanny with the designs of worlds like Lemuria and Novus instead of mockery and a lot of overcompensation.

  • @akrammeziane9979
    @akrammeziane9979 Před 14 dny +1

    Novus doesnt make sense ?
    Thats exactly what the world is., a mess that doesnt make sense

  • @cam.singer
    @cam.singer Před 11 měsíci

    im sorry WHAT?!

  • @primella8135
    @primella8135 Před 9 měsíci

    8:50 the wizard is a simp nothing new

  • @andrehowell2347
    @andrehowell2347 Před 8 dny +1

    I don’t see how addressing adult issues means that you can’t be rated E. The E rating only means that it’s not inappropriate, like mentioning drug use, sex, and other things that kids may unwittingly participate in or mimic without fully understanding. I’m not quite worried with kids having to find themselves and the meaning of life, or wondering about diplomatic relationships. These aren’t inappropriate for children, they’re just not necessarily desired by them.
    Secondly, this video is just strawmanning wizard101 and KingIsle. I’ve only gotten to Lemuria, so I won’t speak on Novus, but you never really gave proof or evidence for anything you’ve said. It’s highly opinionated, and the opinions themselves don’t have any explained reasoning behind them. And then you admittedly gloss over things that may explain the situation and replace it with ranting commentary. We get it, you don’t like Novus or its story, but why?
    You’re also not convincing when you go on to say “everyone else in the community is wearing rose-tinted glasses and doesn’t agree with you. So in your eyes the world is the problem, not you, again, I’m not sure who’s right or wrong, but it’s a red flag. It’s just more likely that you are the problem rather than the whole community as you say.
    It seems like Novus has a very nuanced and intricate story, with lots of moving parts, and lots of things that are left out. I have a few things to say on this. 1. It’s not the first time in W101 or story writing in general where information is purposely withheld. Confusion is often done purposefully in story writing. But also to prevent information overload and spark curiosity. If you want to build good stories that build worlds and universes you can’t only take the route of linear and neat story progression. You need to get abstract and nuanced at times. In the real world there is so much nuance and story. Wars, empires, and major events all happen, in history we teach it simply as simple events, but you can’t really enjoy it to the fullest extent without more complicated flavors. You need a mixture of human psychology, politics, and philosophical themes.
    Yes, you can naively go through a history class thinking that Americans came in and saved the allied powers in WW2 like a bunch of bad asses, but you gain more understanding and appreciation for knowledge when you understand that they did it for practical reasons, that there were many politics at play, that the people weren’t initially interested in the war, that we weren’t really the amazing heroes we thought we were, that we were just humans doing practical human things. This is why heroes like Superman are over rated, they have all the power and simplicity as a character, but they have no depth. They’re too simple to understand and they don’t build interest. They aren’t complicated enough to fashion an entire world plot line out of. Marvel and DC comics with their many universes characters relationships and more show just how well confusion and complication can be, and just how difficult, exhausting, and potentially damaging it can also be.

  • @chaozgaming8565
    @chaozgaming8565 Před 6 měsíci

    Imagine the disaster this game would get if it suddenly got a Teen rating.
    Children's game full of anti-child practices like lootboxes, FOMO, and horrible monetization practices like the 700 dollar set of pajamas...
    Yeah, there's a reason why they're so focused on keeping an "E" rating.
    Also, Wallaru sucks... You're not missing much. Heck I think Wallaru is missing half it's content.

  • @laila-gs3kq
    @laila-gs3kq Před 8 měsíci

    Naa polaris is russia
    And russian revolution

  • @15ag34
    @15ag34 Před 7 měsíci

    most important of all, its just boring.