Great Cars That Vanished Before They Could Succeed
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I would not be able to say the AMX wasn't a success. It was short lived but had a pretty wide popularity with those that liked something a little different. They also made the best police car on the planet that only one car in it's run almost outran and that was the 1970 Pontiac Judge.
Still people till this day love making little alternative pony cars out of them and anyone who has ever seen one will recognize it a mile down the street and know it by name.
It was short lived but in it's short run I would call the AMX one of the most successful cars on the market .
mega deth AMX stand for automobile motor cross
American Motors Experimental
Shooter's right. It's experimental. Anyway these are one Badass car. About the only thing AMX did that was really right.
I owned a 1968 390 AMX - one nice ride.
@@1776adb They were badass cars.
I hate when people ask what my favorites are because I always forget about them.
It's just not a car thought about much so my go too is Mustang Bass 302 as the easy reach or 67 Cougar.
AMX was right up there though.
AMC AMX :D such an awesome muscle car
Klaudija Vorih + My favourite car :)
I love mine!
It wasnt really a muscle car isnt it , its more a coupe
Charlotte Dunois Technically a "Sports car."
Chouun Shiryu A pony car pretty much
The Delorean was an under performer and pricey. Perhaps if it had a better drivetrain it could have succeeded.
TimR Amen! Brother! Slow and.... wing doors don't work when it's under 60 degrees. There's a reason why the douche in the wedding singer drove one. Crap car!
Sam Moss A 2000 bare bones Vw passat has 170 and can get to 60 in 9 seconds. 18 new 2 grand now.
Agreed. It was very slow even for the time period. But on the other hand the sheet metal on the VW Passat will rust but on DeLorean it won't. ;)
Yes...I believe it was a Renault sourced motor. A far better choice would have been the Rover 3.5 V8 or one of the high output Ford V6s that were used extensively in Germany
Actually the european spec test mules had 170 hp because they didn’t have catalytic converters, so they actually delivered the promised sub 10 second 0-60 mph time
The AMX was my dream car in 6th grade. I remember looking at them in the Round Up and AutoTrader magazines of the time. I’ve only seen two in real life.
Bought a brand new one in 72 . deep burgundy . best car i ever owned. favorite memory, in downtown Detroit an exact car like mine pulled up next to me at a red light , he started to rev it up I guess he wanted to race ... He must have been real excited cus when the light turned green he had it in reverse ... and a big limo was behind him... U guessed it smash -A - ROO Laughed my ASS off and continued on my way.
One of best looking AMC cars I remember was a nice AMX Javelin in a real pretty lighter blue color they used. Really nice looking car.
@@michaelszczys8316 "I remember was a nice AMX Javelin in a real pretty lighter blue color"
My dad had one of those in the light blue when I was a kid.
I remember at 15 I was at some guys house with my older brother and his 56 Chevy and one of his friends was there with his nice new clean AMX in the pretty light blue I think it had racing stripes and the guy was trying to put on some fancy pinstriping tape. It was probably the very best top of the list prettiest car ever made by AMC. I can't think of a single car any better
Ah, 914-8??? ... I see what you did there! Nice save! Because the 914 in the video had a Chevy V8 engine in it. The last time I have seen a 914 with a Chevy engine was back in the 90's at Frisco's in Downey, CA. There was cruise night every Wednesday night. Fun times!
Joey Garcia Actually Porsche themselves made 2 prototypes of a car called the 914-8. It was a 914 with a 350 horsepower flat racing engine out of a rafing porsche 908 lemans car.
I think the saddest one here is the Tucker. It had that center headlight that was directional, like the extra pair on a Citroen DS. My Dad said one time he was going about 70mph on the Interstate and a Tucker burned past him going probably 100! (I feel sorry for the clutch in that Bugatti, and the Saturns.) Great video!!!!
Ray Chang a
The Tucker's engine was a joke. It was a WW2 Franklin air cooled engine, designed for use as a helicopter engine in the Bell 47. It was useless installed in an engine bay. So then Preston's son converted it to water cooling, but the engine sounded...like a Bell 47 chopper. It was gawd awful bad. Another CZcamsr ranked the Tucker/Franklin engine as the #3 worst i/c engine ever made...who am I to argue? The last Tucker sold at auction didn't even run (ever!)
The AMC was a good looking car. Matchbox made a stiffly sprung green one with a hood scoop lol.
The Delorean had a pos engine in it. It was really a very terrible motor that one. Try changing the injector seals, water pump, spark plugs or distributor cap on those motors and you'll know EXACTLY what I'm talking about. In addition they blew head gaskets with monotonous frequency, they had wet sleeves that leaked water, the blocks suffered porosity issues causing internal and external coolant leaks and the EGR system coated the entire intake system with an oily muddy substance that caused the EGR valve to stick open causing the motor to not idle properly; the cure being to spend full 2 days taking the intake manifold off and you just knew it was going to come back in a few weeks with the same problem! - like I said a very terrible engine. On top of that they were underwhelming in the power department. They were one of those engines that may have been better if you drove them long distances every day but for stop start driving they were didn't work. A worse engine is hard to imagine and as you can see I know a bit about them.
ThePaulv12 I agree, the dmc engine was complete garbage, but the idea behind it was great. Who wouldn't want a cheap hatchback with gull wing doors, hahaha
Hot Wheels also made a Custom AMC AMX
Hanging the engine way out back, as De Lorean did, limited the engine options. Gull wing doors look cool, full stop.
Not to mention , its rust proof
Re: the Saturn Sky and the Pontiac what are the numbers for displacement, bhp, torque, braking? How does it handle?
Wow!!, thanks for another great video. Keep the great videos coming!!!, thanks!!👍👍
The Buick Reatta was another one that should have been much more - I actually drove a friends and it was severly under powered - I would still like to have it though. And the saddest is the AMX - I had 3 of them (and 4 Javelins) and yes, I was addicted to them. That's all I can say cuz I wish I still had them...
The most accurate representation of the Delorean was in Back to the Future where the damn thing wouldn't run half the damn time and would barely get to 90 mph unless it was being pushed.
Still can’t get over how Doc Brown could build an ice making machine in 1885 but couldn’t make some sort of set-up to make some coal gas or alcohol to run the Delorean up to 88 mph.
@@michaelszczys8316 Precisely, especially since they already had some high proof alcohol. Should have been pretty easy.
The Saturn 👍🏽💯
love the tucker
There was no javelin??????
The Sky and the Solstice were genuinely handsome little cars,they should have been good sellers.
Graham Smith blame GM for shutting the production
They were very expensive to make and GM determined that there was little room for a price increase. I owned a Solstice GXP and truly enjoyed it. Like many other cars that have gone away, it was a product of a company that emphasized high production numbers and great interchangeability. The Kappas provided neither.
I agree on this list, the deloreon was a car I grew up watching on tv, and always wanted one. It would be nice to see someone bring that style back
The first car reminds me of a guy where I worked had a Mustang with no weight in the back, every time he took off he squealed the tires.
A guy in my neighborhood had an AMX Javelin. When the crappy boat anchor AMC motor threw the towel and he couldn’t find another good one we talked him into changing to small block Chevy . He put in 350 Chevy with turbo trans and then he had trouble keeping it on the road. ( it looks like one in video has Chevy motor )
I knew a guy that worked for AMC and he told us about some cars that didn’t make it, one was a car he said looked better than AMX but it couldn’t pass speed tests. He said over 100 mph it would try to fly.
Always thought GM should have come up with a new nose for the Sky/Vue and kept it on as a Buick.
it would have been a perfect riviera or reatta
should have had Ford Starliner 1960 - 62 i think it had 2 years of production was the start of muscle car era big beautiful car
I call a video that lures you in with something awesome like the orange AMC Javlin picture that isn't actually in the video CLICK BAIT!
The first car has been marketed here in Germany as Opel GT. That alone was a mistake, they should have named it Lotus. But it was equipped with a totally unmatching 2.2 l rev - unwilling 4 - cyl. from a limousine, nasty gearbox and impractical chassis design that almost no customer was willing to pay the price much higher than that from the MX 5. It also suffered from reliability problems and crappy workmanship so it had no chance against its well made rival what was equipped with the rev - happy 1,6 twin cam from the 323 GT and a very crisp 5 speed manual.
That's okay, as you could get a nice drivetrain kit to replace the one that the Plymouth Prowler had and to also get a Hellcrate kit under the hood to give it the power that it truly deserved.
Where are the pintos. The Vega. The maverick. The gremlins. Lol
😂😂😂You got that right 😂😂😂
I think Pontiac Solstice is kind of Fiero all over again. But what about the Predecessor for that (or the Opel GT as the version of Solstice was known in Europe)? It had a bit less power, but weighted 400 kilograms less and was designed by Lotus.
zabnat this thing was also sold in Germany by Opel (GM till 2018) as Opel GT
I'm suprised the Delorean made it through the test drive....
Execs at GM killed the Fiero because they didn't want it competing with the beloved Corvette. The Fiero could have been a really successful car if not for GM execs.
Where was the Studebaker Avanti? Yeah, it had teething pains, but Studebaker got them worked out about the time the Board of Directors forced Sherwood Egbert out and pulled the plug on the South Bend plant. Note also that the regular production R2 supercharged Studebaker 289 with just a bit of tuning set 15 records at Bonneville in the unlimited displacement class.
Winston Elston
The Avanti was my first thought when I saw the title of this video. Dreamed about that car when I was a kid. It was so unlike anything else on the road and a real wunderkind.
Studebaker set 366 land speed records with the Lark Hawk and the Avanti.
Probably not listed because the Avanti outlived Studebaker and was in production for decades. R&T actually preferred the later Corvette powered Avanti because the lighter weight engine improved handling. Also, the Bonneville car used the R3 engine, which was bored out to 304 cu and, essentially hand built. You could order them from your Studebaker dealer, but they were so pricey I think only four were ever built.
Ferris Bueller's sister has a Pontiac Fiero (he got a computer).
The first one looks like a very slightly changed Vauxhall VX220 turbo - a UK General Motors brand at that time.
A little trivia. At the end of Cannonball Run 2 I think Frank Sinatra drives a Pontiac Fiero.
David Jackson That was a 2.2 Charger.
Your both wrong its a dodge daytona
james1977 lol, same difference.
The Delorean needed a better power-train; plain and simple. Same with the Prowler.
BrewBlaster John Dleorean didnt have enough money to put a LS in it
The Prowler had the same engine as the 300 M. What it really needed was a stick shift. At the time Chrysler wasn't putting V8's into any of it's cars. So it would have had to either use a Viper chassis or be engineered from whole cloth, either of which would have greatly increased it's price.
@ CD - And aside from the way Delorean left GM, it's doubtful the company would be open to supplying the engine for a car meant to compete with the Corvette.
The Saturn Sky and the Pontiac Solstice are in fact Opel/Vauxahll GT's,there is also the Korean Hyunday G2X and even a Chevy G2X
Remember the poor man's Corvette Opel GT's from when I was in school..
THE EB110 is so much prettier than the current model there are some videos covering the sad end to this machine .
Sadly, most of these products would never get production approval today. Now companies just want to sell SUV's and borring stuff.
Like Mitsubishi for example , shutting down the performance car production , to sell family sedans and SUVs which didnt go so well cuz the ppl prefer a Honda , Toyota and Subaru
Tucker probably would even safer pop out glass at impact inner roll cage seat belts power everything very hi-Tech Preston even talked about airbags back then of course the big three wanted his car beheaded sad story of a very safe fast car, aluminum block rear engine EFI from a helicopter company Tucker was a defensive wizard when it came to safety and he was cheaper that's why he had to be shut down forever unfortunately, I wonder what would have happened to Tucker if he would have succeeded.
Yes the Tucker was way ahead of the other " big three" auto manufacturers as far technical innovations, so they made sure that it was buried any way they could. Damn shame! But greed succeeds.
The Tucker 48 was never anything but a gimmick. Aside from Preston Tucker's lack of sufficient financial resources to make a go of it; remember, Henry J. Kaiser, with all the resources of his construction and shipyard cash on hand almost went broke when he continued building cars after the post-war seller's market. Tucker was trying to raise money to build his cars by selling tangible floor mats and radios to prospective buyers who put down payments on cars that didn't even exist yet and ultimately never would.The Tucker depended on the innovative, but notoriously fragile Cord preselector transmission that didn't have the structural integrity to handle the torque of the water-cooled conversion Bell helicopter engine that took the place of the 589 cubic inch opposed six originally planned. Tucker was, at best, delusional. The buyers holding radios and floor mats and other accessories when he went broke considered him to be a huckster, a charlatan, and a fraud.
I guess you couldn't find a real 914/6?
You left out one of the greatest AMC cars- the Hornet SC360.
Lol. Indeed. One scary ride. I also liked the rebel. My first car was a 74 javelin. I liked the cockpit style it gave you.
I’d give anything to have my SC360 back. One fantastic ride. 1971 blue with black stripes- 390 gears. Warmed up to 325 h.p- vertical gate shifter- mid13s 1/4 mile. Brings back great memories.
I had to Google the SC 360, pretty cool! I am super partial to the rebel. I've always thought the rebel was a great looking car.
Paul Anger The Rebel Machine was a GREAT car. I’m just partial to the SC-360 having owned one. I just wish that someone would bring back the AMC line of great cars.
What about oldsmobile toronado 1973
How about the GMC Cyclone and the Typhoon... Or the Mitsubishi 3000gt.. Grand national. Chevy SSR..
I don't think that first Saturn is actually running right and needs a tune-up.....
InGermany Porsche 914 was called "VW-Porsche" by people. That didn't go well with its owners.^^ Pontiac Fiero is a car that could never ever be successful in Germany.
Of course, if you REALLY want to impress people, put a Cadillac CTS-V or 2019 Chevrolet C7 Corvette ZR1 engine under the hood of a Saturn Sky Redline or Pontiac Solstice GXP (or Third Generation Opel GT or Daewoo G2X if you can get one of them as well) and THEN you will legitimately scare people.
914-4 never had a decent engine, even by the standards of the day. Great handling and fun to drive. Like to see one with a VW VR6 engine. GM screwed up the Saturn brand. Had an SW2, it was a fun car to drive with good handling and decent performance from it's 1.9 and automatic. Instead of developing Saturns, GM got lazy and cheap and relabeled other GM products.
Comparing AMX to a Corvette...haha.
Apparently if it requires actual investigation this channel should not get involved and instead just relies on complete hearsay. While the Tucker did have issues with an SEC investigation which did put the final nail in the coffin there was a long string of poor decisions and bad engineering which doomed the project long before the SEC got involved. Tucker tried to invent a new engine that would use hydraulic valve actuation instead of using a camshaft and pushrod. This cost a significant amount of time and money and once they got a prototype running it produced much less power than they had advertised and was damn near impossible to start. This lead Tucker to buy an airplane engine company which at the time held 65% of the post war aviation engine contracts, all of which Tucker cancelled, to produce an engine. He then had his engineers convert the air cooled aircraft engine over to water cooled which took a lot of time and money. These are just a few of the blunders that lead to Preston Tucker's car company failing. He did have a number of excellent ideas and he may have been successful had he tried to tackle one or two innovations at a time however he tried to reinvent everything on the car in a time frame that just was not plausible all while having little to no money actually coming into the company.
Is it just me but the bugatti eb110 seems like a nicer car than the new ones
Friend has a sky redline with about 430hp It's fast lol.
3.21 lol He's getting Dusted
AMC made very good cars and the Javelins and AMX's were bad to the bone. They disappeared because American Motors disappeared. It was a tiny Mid Western company that could not hope to compete with the big 3.
The Bugatti was but ugly. The AMX was merely a shortened Javelin. Was targeted at the 'Vette but was really a 2 seat pony car. And that was a market in decline at the time. Also see E Body Chrysler products, 1970-73. Delorean was an overpriced, underpowered slug. The Prowler was WAY COOL but not a practical car. Pontiac ditched the Chevette derived front suspension just in time to deep 6 the Fiero. Tucker lacked the funds to go into production. The 50 cars built used junkyard Cord transmissions.
The AMC Javelins and AMX's were great muscle cars, but the company was way to small to compete with the big 3.
.........and the 2004-later pontiac gto????
the 1st one is a opel gt from the 2000´s
TheGSxChannel no clown Saturn sky redline
Not flat straight hood on the DeLorean and that looking too high on the front end made it the ugliest car ever!
AMX stood for American Motors Experimental, and they were totally different cars from Javelin's with no parts interchangability despite their similar looks, some people mistakenly call them AMX Javelin's but that's incorrect, no where on an AMX will you see a Javelin badge..
Duke Craig ....Just like the 1970 Pontiac Tempest and the GTO....Several body parts would NOT interchange including the fenders !
I did
The EB110 is just plain ugly.
Veyron and Chiron is more hideous
I am from europe, saturn sky it is opel gt, saturn only copy paste cars from Opel...
Doesn't tell you anything at all about any of the cars shown !
the saturn sky and the opel gt look similar
That's because they're the same car
DeLorean DMC-12
Performance Saturns
AMC AMX
Bugatti EB110
Well 914.6...or 8 straight line vehicle turns ass heavy why you saw video at track 944 blew past 60/40 balance
Why aren't Saturns made today? In 2009 when Barack Obama took control of GM, he got rid of Saturn cars. Why? Saturns were made in Tennessee Tennessee is not a union state; so Saturn had to go.
I don't think you could fit a V8 in the Plymouth Prowler
That's gotta be a tight fit
Nice
²ᴮ it's only metal 😉
²ᴮ - Organism 2B?
The first car is also known as the Opel GT mark 2 in Europe.
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You can still buy deloreans today
But why would you want to and at WHAT COST?