How Much Does It Cost To Build OP07 Meta Decks?
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
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I'm the Bonney player who got 5th place running just the one 9c zoro, now that Bonney has had more top placings I would recommend people picking up the deck play 3 zoro's since it's the main win condition in the mirror match.
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Personally feel like not many content creators talk about the price of decks, so it's nice to see a video on the topic
I already commented something similar under one of your other videos, but I think its crazy that the decks you've mentioned are about 100$ cheaper in Europe. All of the stores near me have so much stock of op07
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@@cardkaizoku I'll probably be in the US for the holidays in 2025 or 2026 😂 I already thought about taking some cards with me.
OP07 will be one of the most diverse metas, I believe.
A good pilot can elevate any deck, and in a meta where every leader has at least 1 unfavorable match-up, it will make for some wild results.
Sure, there will be staples at the top, but I do see some more "underdogs" coming through like in EU.
Play a leader you vibe with, understand the matchups, learn the meta, and use locals to bounce theories.
idk, i love moria, but it just kinda feels like Lucci is much stronger. You really feel the loss of Great Eruption in Moria imho, while cp has the draw 1, -3 cost. Nice vid tho
U can run tempest kick easily in moria also
I love Moria too, and I'm sticking with the deck. Even though it's mostly a black "goodstuff pile" kind of deck now, you still can grind out long-game advantage with Perona and Hogback.
Lucci is just the new hotness now. Once we get more Thriller Bark cards, Moria should return.
Why not play tempest kick in moria? It isn't leader looked and Gecko can feel the trash faster than lucci.
I can recommend rp luffy if you don’t play Bon clay it’s cheap as
Its insane how much more expensive the us is compared to the eu
I like to listen to your vids like this when i drive/work would be nice if you read the prices instead of pointing to them (at least it would be nice for me idk what others think lol)
This is something a lot of CZcamsrs don't consider yet, that people like you and I listen in the car podcast style.
Hopefully it catches on.
I think I mentioned all the major cards by price out loud. It's only the stuff under $5 that I kinda glossed over.
@@cardkaizoku you did, I commented before I finished the video since it is a genuine sentiment I have.
I think maybe OP concern was that the overall deck prices were not properly highlighted I guess or compared intensively. Like if you weren't following along with the video you could get lost in the number speech but it is a video first and foremost.
Ah gotcha. I'll consider the formatting of my videos so it flows better with audio-only. Thanks for the feedback!
This meta seems to be pretty healthy with a variety of decks that can do well
It is. OP07 is without question, my favorite block of this game right now
R/G law best (budget) deck
I still think Rebecca is a great deck in general and it's super affordable
This is one of the things that has turned me off from the game. At this point, I'm the only one left from my friends group that regularly plays, everyone else has quit because of it. Even my locals where the events are like 10 bucks to enter and the maximum prize is like maybe 30 bucks woth of packs or a winner card, and people are spending like 500 or 600 bucks to build decks that they didn't even try to come up with. There was an event a couple of weeks ago with 12 players and it was like 7 RP Law, 3 Rob Lucci, 1 BY Luffy, and my Belo Betty. Then last week I went to my store and played someone who copied someone else's Bonnie deck, bought all the cards, and prefaced the game by saying he didn't know what was in his deck or how to play it.
Maybe it's just me getting older, when I was in high school or my 20s, I didn't care about what anyone played in a TCG, but now everyone I know is too busy and when I do make it out, it's just facing the exact same decks over and over. So I try to build a deck during the week, get off work, drive across town, sit down with people I only know from the card shop, and then face just the same broken stuff over and over. Like even in a locals, no one can just chill. It's either play the meta, try to build specifically against the meta, or just stay home.
When the game first released, I knew about 6 people who were interested. Most of them quit over seeing endless Sakazuki or Enel. Now I know just one person, and she doesn't even want to play anymore.
I know this rant isn't going anywhere, but I feel like the game is dying a bit. A lot less people show up for the events I go to unless they're pre-release or something, and I'd rather sit home on the sim than drive out to a card store just to get frustrated at people netdecking. It's not good for Bandai either, if the value of their product is worthless if it's not the meta and even then people only want to buy singles, at some point that drives down the value for sealed product, which isn't good for LGS either. There are roughly 60 leaders in the game, and maybe what? Six are considered viable at any one given time? That's really bad for the health of the game. 500 years just came out, and alts for Dragon, Vegapunk, and Foxy are all just around 20 bucks. No one is even going to try to play them because someone didn't already win with them. Something has to change at some point or the bottom is going to fall out of this game.
Not sure where you are pulling the $500-600 number from, as you can see from the video the most expensive deck is around $460-500 with the majority of competitive decks costing around $250-300 which is very affordable in the TCG market. Honestly the game is probably in the healthiest state its ever been in, stock issues are largely solved now which has decreased the entry cost of the game, I've personally seen many new/returning players since around the release of op05, and there is genuinely around 13 decks I would consider meta viable which is the most diverse we've ever had in one piece. If you don't like people "netdecking" than you should consider just playing at home with a group of friends with lower power level decks.
@jop0 to ignore the rest of it because it does no good to get into a debate about price, I'll focus on the last part of what you said: That if you don't like that the common state of things is people netdecking that they should stay home and play. That can't be a true statement and also that the game is the healthiest it's been. It truly can't.
For one thing, people have a million options for things they can be doing. A TCG is a luxury activity and on top of that, it's a TCG based on an IP. Keeping that going for the long haul is already going to be tough, asking people to invest enough in the game to keep it healthy for the company printing it is even tougher. Simply put, most people aren't going to both buy sealed product, the only way that Bandai can keep making the game, and also stay at home.
In fact, as a quick aside, do you know how many TCGs have actually been successful versus how many have been attempted? I was going to try and make a list of all the TCGs that have died over the years, but it's too long. And of the active TCGs that are out now, how many have existed for more than a couple of years? TCGs die all the time and for a variety of reasons, even popular IPs die out. How many Marvel or Star Wars or whatever games have failed? It's not impossible to imagine One Piece eventually going away, but regardless, TCGs dying always comes down to one major reason: The company printing the game can't sell retail stock. It doesn't matter how good the secondary market is, companies only make money when their sealed product sells.
And this is why something has to change. In the One Piece game, if hardcore players stick to their core set of cards, it literally doesn't matter how often they attend local games. If people stop buying sealed product because it's easier to buy singles and the majority of the cards they pull aren't playable, the game dies. If there's no casual base and everyone brings copied decks to locals, it creates a higher barrier of entry and newer players cannot join or won't stay and the game dies.
Think about your locals. Do you see new players each week, or do you see the same faces with the same decks? If you go to a Target or Wal-Mart, places that normal people who might not go to a LGS, are you likely to find One Piece or is it more likely to be Magic or Pokemon?
One Piece isn't even a top 3 selling game. It's exciting, but it hasn't existed long enough to say if it has staying power. And in the top 3, you have Magic, Pokémon, and Yugi-Oh and even Yugi-Oh is talked about as being on a severely decline because of a lack of entryway for newer players.
At the end of the day, people can't invest heavily into multiple card games, it's a niche market. Magic and Pokémon aren't going anywhere, and any TCG that isn't experiencing continuous growth is going to die on the vine. Again, the vast of majority of TCGs do, and arguably the reason Magic and Pokémon have such a stranglehold on the industry is because they've been around long enough to know that you need to change things up and make the majority of your cards playable. One Piece does not have the luxury of being around as a TCG for the past 20 or 30 years, and right now the vast majority of cards that have been printed do not see play, nor is there ever a reason to if you're trying to be competitive at all. I am begging you to understand why that's a problem for the long term health of any TCG.
@@DannyBellTheAuthor And what evidence is your opinion based on? According to IcV2's top TCGplayer sales article One Piece is the 4th most popular card game and I wouldnt be surprised if it has closed in on YuGiOh in the meantime, I also work for a card store and im in contact with a lot of card store owners and One Piece is still selling fantasticly well. Not to mention regional tournaments are still having sell out numbers. Not every new leader card be a meta staple otherwise that would just power creep the game and be far worse for its health overall.
@jop0 large scale reporting isn't available yet because 2024 is still happening, but even if you take financials from say, Hasbro Q1, Pokemon Company financials, and Bandais, all of which is publicly available and even has profits and losses grouped by division, you can see the revenue. It's not hard to actually find the data.
That said, you're not even arguing my point that One Piece isn't a top 3 TCG, and you're stating that because your store is doing fine, you think everything is fine. Even the line at the end about how not every new leader can be a meta breaker isn't something I ever said or suggested. In fact, it's the opposite of what I suggested since I think part of the change needs to be in making more of the cards playable, not just in replacing one power set with another. Magic had this built into their mechanics from day one, as did Pokémon, although both were smart to make adjustments over time. Every TCG that has tried to solve their issues with power creep has failed. Literally all of them. Magic for example solved their issues by making different formats to let the vast majority of cards be playable in different formats, and by making Commander it's own format, cards that would be unplayable in other formats became viable. They also phase out sets, so that if you want to play modern, you need to keep retiring old cards and buying the new sets. As for their built in mechanics, look at the back of any Magic card and it's right there. Each color is supposed work with the color next to it and counter the card across from it. One Piece has different colors, yes, but it currently isn't designed with the same level of detail as Magic, not that it's expected to, but that should be the goal. The corrections that could be made in One Piece now are to phase out sets from tournament play, institute restrictions like leader locking cards, or making legendary rules so that some cards can only be 1 per deck, forcing new cards to be played.
Look, the truth of it is that I've loved One Piece for a long time and I really want to see the TCG succeed, but I've also seen a lot of fun, promising TCGs die out for the same things happening in One Piece right now. And frankly, I could voice concerns all night and keep answering your questions, but I get the feeling you can't or don't want to acknowledge any issues and just want to be right because it's good for you at the moment. There's the lack of growth, the plummeting prices on most cards, and the lack of readily available product for new players, not to mention the accessibility for new players. Or, we can take your route and say nothing is wrong and hope for the best.
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