Can You Beat Final Fantasy VII Using A Class System?
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Cloud = Mystic Knight
Barret = Defender
Tifa = Monk
Red XIII = Red Mage
Yuffie = Thief/Ninja
Cait Sith = Status/Blue Mage
Vincent = Dark Mage
Cid = Dragoon/Summoner
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0:00 - Intro
1:23 - Character Breakdowns
16:36 - The Journey BEGINS!
13:34 - Mission 2 and... Steve?
31:57 - Wall Market Shenanigans
47:41 - Saving Private Steve
1:00:08 - Escaping Midgar - Hry
You missed W-Magic on the red mage. Dual cast was always a staple for the class from FF5 forward (and they even found a crestive way to work it into FF14's red mage rotation)
Really? Maybe I should give it a try. Is FF14 hard, confusing, both, or none of the above?
None. FF14 is an MMO where you can use every single class in the game and they all have their own playstyles and difficulties. In terms of quality, honestly is one of my favorites FF ever but it does take time to actually "finish". As of today, there are 5 story expansions and the 6th comes out this year, so if you want to get to the end of the story you might as well spend over 1000+ hours.
Its definitively worth it though.
Also, although is an MMORPG, Square Enix has made a huge effort to make the game as "singleplayer" as possible, where you can currently do all story dungeons with NPCs and with no need of other players.
@@CronicasDeGisthia uh...that's gonna be a problem since I have school and I don't have a PC at my disposal.
@@craigsands2567 Do you have PS4/5/Xbox? Its also available on consoles.
@@craigsands2567it's a lot of hours to dedicate, but the good news is there's a free trial with no limit to play time so you can check it out for free, even on consoles
A little surprised Red didn't get W-Magic over Vincent since that is THE defining feature of a Red Mage in most job based games post FFV
Vincent should jave gotten quaddra magic instead
@@benjaminpimentel4660why quadruple cast?
"Big scary dude named Aps" No No NO. His name is Sebastian. Aerith gave it to him.
I CAN SMELL THE COOOOOSMOOOOOS
dude i just watched that today like a hour ago great reference
@@VenenataTeam 4 Star did a really god job with the machinabridged. There are things in Rebirth that were clearly inspired by it.
We did tell her not to name it 🤷🏻♂️
Should have just given Barrett all the Bahamuts, he knows the most about their lore after all.
Cait Sith is literally Reeve’s fursona
I feel like Alexander would've fit Barret more than Cloud being one of the most defensive summons in Final Fantasy, being essentially a moving castle with artillery pieces which I feel fits Barret to a T
Hades + Added Effect just blew my fucking mind
The way you put these together is really creative and I like that the rules are so tied to the personalities of the characters
Materia system rocks. I love 9s ability system too which is quite simple but still love it.
Fuck yeah! I did this challenge "based" on FF Record keeper jobs 😂
Cloud was a Mystic Knight (magic materias with added element and effect)
Barret long range knight-paladin (cover, counter, low cure spells, barrier and hp+ materia basically)
Tifa Monk-with some white magic (basically a full white mage with lots of passive materias)
Aerith Sage (all magic materias!)
Red XIII Red-Blue magic.
Yuffie Ninja-Thief with status and poison magic.
Cait sith Summoner-white mage
Vincent full Black Magic
Cid "Dragoon" (just some buffs like time magic and debuffs and physical passive materias)
Ended using Cait Sith and Red a lot for obvious reasons lol
Interesting! Yeah, Vincent seems to make a great Black Mage, doesn't he?
Been playing this game since I was 7. Countless playthroughs over the last 21 years, and I'm still discovering different things to do
I love using Cait Sith as my Black Mage - for no other reason than i just like him :D
I'd say Vincent is more of a berserker due to how his Limit Break works
Possibly a Berserker/Black Mage fusion.
I'm spending my personal time doing a permadeath challenge where if a character dies in battle they are dead irl. Only exception is if they are forced into the party for any reason. And the game ends when Cloud dies making this kind of like an SMT game where if the protagonist dies its game over no matter what.
Forgot the w/magic for red 13. Quick is nearly the signature red mage ability
It was a nice touch, at the class explanations, that you used the themes for the characters.
Given your sub button a good ol'Jecht shot. I've had a shit few days and finding your vides a week ago has really helped brighten my mood! Keep up the great work my dude.
came for the challenge run, stayed for bart and clod's relationship
I’m looking forward to this series and it’s also in time for the Rebirth release next week I’m so hyped for it
WOOHOO! So glad you're as hyped as I am :D
Fun Fact: Don Corneo could be literally translated from italian into "Don Horny", which is fairly fitting for his character.
"lord" horny. "Don" is used to reffer to men of status, Maybe Lord is a bit much but it works for english semantics wise.
@@freakfiliconso his name would be transliterated to "the horny lord"?
Very fitting for his character
Except that it means "horny" as in "Made of horn". Like, a literal horn taken off an animal and then carved into something.
This is very similar to how ive always played this game since it's original release - except that i made Nanaki the blue mage and Cait Sidhe was a time mage/oracle (or as you call it - status mage)
Even ib remake i made Barret the defender tanky class because he has ways to generate aggro and i can sit on him while ai controlled Cloud and Tifa beat things up.
Assuming you are not limited to one of each listed, elemental+Contain, Contain+added cut, and you can get pretty much through the whole game easily
If you go up against Emerald weapon (honestly not too hard if you turn Arie Tam storm to your advantage to set off lucky 7s), its drop trades for a gold chocobo giving quick access without breeding to KotR, and Ruby's drop trades for a set of master materia which would have KotR as part of the master summon
So excited to see Clod and Bart's "will they/won't they" story unfold. I'm here for it
For 27 years or w/e I have loved Rufus' "What a crew." line
I build my ff7 characters with a similar philosophy actually, I think I'll enjoy this.
I did make one change. I gave Aeristh earth so she has an offensive spell, and works with the geomancer idea the designers had originally.
New Threat! NEW THREAT!
It has a Class system!
No
That 15min break down on the builds is amazing, that only sold me on this series. It makes me want to go back and play FF7, I've replayed it a lot, but god I love stuff like this.
Surprise, Cait Sith is actually better in the new game, in my opinion. His single dice throw isn’t just chance, but all six sides have a plus to them.
Last playthrough I did Cloud = counter-deathblow and haste/healing. Spellcaster with wide range of spells and some summons, and a physical with deathblow etc. It actually trivialized the game quite a bit, once you get some of the materia combinations a lot of normal grind disappears
Cant wait for part 2! Love you babe!
I like the distribution of materia. I'm wondering what order you get them throughout the game and who's going to come online first with their full class functionality
I'm at class part of vid. I do like the selection lot them fit really well. I can see Argument since enemy skill going to for Red-XIII since first enemy skill materia is right there when he Joins, but Caith sith with Manip on when joins it also fair argument. I can see Argument either one be Blue mage but being Mage fits both naturally. Also Dark Mage much better ascetic fitting Name then Time Mage who usely get Gravity and meteor magic and have Guns as Weapon for Vincent class. Yeah sadly For Dragoon since they usely are Jump key point of consistentcy between them there not lot options.
Thanks for this playthrough. This is my favorite game and I had a great time watching someone else who loves the game, playing it with their own flare. I hope to see more like this in the future.
23:55 honestly, same. I think Tifa's theme is much more beautiful than any other piece of music in FFVII. Her theme feels like a warm hug but also sort of melancholic while also exuding this hopefulness. It falls into a similar category as Tidus's theme from FFX for me.
Good to see casp getting some recognition. He makes good videos and has a fun a accent
I did a class system challenge on FF8. Was a lot of fun
There's a segment in the underground after you jump off the train before doing the building climb where you can farm a repeatable battle against some Shinra troops (you'll know because the guy will say something about you being there, and then attack you) to unlock everyone's limit breaks up to level 3. 😊
Obviously you did this already, but Tifa should have Earth materia; Monks traditionally have some earth damage skills.
Amazing video! I really like the idea for Vincent. Suits him well
47:57-48:00 you can also do both. Do the stairs first, get the item then go back and enter through the front entrance. 😊
Who knew lightning could kill a robot?
*Final Fantasy XIII left the chat*
Another challenge video from Daddy Jam! Yay!
31:58 If I was in Cloud, I would say "What a DRAG!" XD
You can beat FFVII by just whacking everything normally, blazing through the main story with basically no difficulty at all. So, I’m gonna say yes lol.
Ff7 characters all do have classes and roles… just like every other FF.
the New Threat mod for the Steam port of FF7 kinda takes this idea a bit different, whereas you can choose from 1 of 5 "sub-classes" each character has at certain points in the game by getting the various Source items since Source grinding has been removed, with Aerith having one of the funniest sub-classes of Slum Drunk
This content is exactly what I want in every way.
Bro. I love this. I'm going to do my playthrough like this as well
Barret as a defensive paladin is how I took mine on my currently playthrough as well. Slash-all is appropriate since he has a gun and can shoot back and forth is how I look at it. So many jobs/classes to choose from so it's good to see some diverse team building. RedXiii as a red mage and Vincent as a blue mage are something I've done as well. Once Aeris(th) is gone I'm out of a white mage and must focus on different ways to play as well. Cait Sith is one of my all arounders. Cid is my melee dragoon power house and yuffie is my ninja enfeeble thief. Cloud is my mystic knight with some enfeeblements as well as elemental. Lightning and Ice only since his name is cloud..
I wish you showed the whole scene where they swing on the rope from the sector 7 pillar as it explodes. How barrets head phases through Clouds ass... Yeah, the hardware had limits, but WHO TF saw that animation and said "This doesnt need any more work"
Interesting idea, I think I would have preferred it if the game were more like this. That might also be why FF9 is my favourite FF game too
I would probably be in favor of Red XIII having access to Elemental materia as in FF11, FFTA, FF14; Red Mages also have elemental attacks and defenses. Granted, they scale terribly and more like early game offense so you can get a few levels, but worth a mention. great job!
This kind of run actually looks fun. Might need to give it a go.
Great video! This was so neat!!!!
It's too bad that you can't get the HP/MP swap Materia earlier in the game. That would have been a great way to round out Vincent, effectively making him very, very powerful, but also risky to use in battle, meaning you'd have to adapt your strategies (like using Barret to cover him, for example). Sort of a mage version of a Dark Knight, sacrificing his HP for power, full on glass cannon style.
Just finished this vid with 3 minutes to go until Rebirth.
Let's go!!!
I read the title and instantly said "Yes you can, Every time I've beaten it I played that way" 😂
Luck only affects the character's critical hit rate, chance to avoid attacks, and chance to land a hit. So actually would have been better on tifa. But i know why you thought that. Luck in FF7 is a bit weird. Like for stealing only thing that matter is your characters level. Late game luck is almost pointless when you do 9999 without crits. Handy for dodging though i guess.
Looking forward to this series big time!
You should also check out the 'New Threat' mod for FF7 if you get a chance, it actually introduces classes for the characters and generally improves the game (imo)
Currently playing through alot of ff games 7 included so i had to come check this out. Will probably watch half then leave as to not get spoiled but trust im locked in for this video cause the concept sounds fun.
9 was my first FF so when I went back and played 7 I designated each character to a specific class with materia loadouts because it felt better that way. Aerith was my white mage/summoner so it hit so much harder when that thing happens.
All jokes aside, getting the barest date is hard as hell. I had to follow a guide so I could get the ps4 trophy for it for the platinum 😂
Fantastic vid!
I'm reminded by this concept that I really need to try Final Fantasy VII: New Threat again.
It's a mod that, among various other things, adds a system where you can choose one of 6 classes for each character, up to 4 times as you go through the game, which heavily alter their stats. So if Cloud takes ranks in Mercenary, he'll have high Vit and Str, but if you choose Makonoid, he'll get Mag and Spr.
It also gives each character a gimmick, such as Barret getting a small, stacking Str buff when hit if he's in the front row, or gaining a small percentage of his HP if he's in the back.
Sadly, my save files corrupted half way through (An issue I had with the regular steam version, not just the mod) and I quit.
Red feels more like a blue mage imo but i guess he is indeed red
5:46 Don't worry, Tifa fills out anything well.
This is a really dope idea. I need to try this sometime with the mod that randomizes what party members you have in each battle. :>
I've always played it with a class system. The stat bonuses and penalties of materia actively encourage you to play that way.
I love this! Tell me there’s going to be more so I can go ahead and subscribe.
Aerith is a Geomancer.
Fight me.
You’re so silly 🙃 love it. This is a treat! 🤩
Yaaay I love these challenge runs!
I love your content. First time I've ever hit the bell for notifications now. I hope you blow up! Or blow Barrett. Either way, I'll watch!
Yessss, another challenge run! FFVII remake next!
Should have gave counter attack to Tifa too since thats generally a monk based ability
Aerith getting a post disk one Full cure is really funny.
Shouldve given Aerith Destruct. It teaches Death.
Very cool challenge. Although, Shield and Full Cure on Aerith seems a bit cruel. 🤣🤣
you should've used the classes from bravely default series
everytime you bring in a Drag Race edit I gag, great stuff
Nice choice with "Clod," I actually pronounced his name "Claude," for the entirety of my first playthrough. Not because I didn't know how to pronounce Cloud, but because even if I didn't yet have the future vocabulary to identify cheesy fanfic sounding names, I remember thinking at the tender of age of 11: "there's no way his name is actually Cloud Strife, that's so dumb." Cloud's reputation, at least in my little mind, never fully recovered from this initial impression.
Having played 6 before 7, I couldn't recall any names being quite as on the nose as Cloud Strife in the previous title.
Sorry for the rambling. Having played FF7 at launch, I'm obviously too old for this world, and have become senile.
lol why does penello randomly appear during the edit for the openin sequence hahahaha. so random ahahha
I AM HYPE
I hope the rebirth release make this explode too!
This is the perfect thing to have on while I sew this goddam 40 inch wig tbh
@@Persephiroth haha, a Sephiroth wig? :o
Funfact: In the german version of ff7 the password for the major is always "mako"
Playing Final Fantasy VII with the New Threat Mod and trying to do a "Class-system" for the hell of it, when I stumble on THIS video. So thanks; I think I might use this set-up, or maybe put a slight spin on it. This vid gets a thumbs up from me!
At the beginning of the video I would like to make a prediction; not only CAN you beat Final Fantasy VII using a class system, but I think that is the way it was intended to be played, but with flexibility. Back in the day we all just gave everyone all the summon and magic materia but I don't think that's the way it was supposed to be used. I think I would have gone Red Mage with Aerith because both her magic offense and defense are really powerful. I understand putting Red XIII in that role instead though since he'll be with you for the whole game.
I think it's worth mentioning as well that Barret is an adoptive single father. If we're talking outsiders, and deviating from the norm, he has it in spades, and is all the better for it.
You’re so right! Good point
Can You Beat Final Fantasy VII Using A Range Of Available Materia?
This is my favorite game of all time. I’m fucking jazzed for this series!!!!
I always love the Hyper in don corneos room xDD
What happened to 'This guy are sick'? Did you add some sort of translation improvement mod?
High str + black magic + giant sword = Dark Knight job
Cloud isn't in drag. He is in a dress.
Clod is so down bad for Barrett and I'm all for it
Tifa is just a natural blessing, no silicon needed
Yes you can! I did it myself it was a lot of fun
Leviathan IS the guardian deity of wutai, but that's not where you get it. I think there's a cave in wutai that is closed off unless you already HAVE leviathan, which you can find during the section where you steal the submarine. I think it's in a chest right after fighting the robot boss. It's missable - if you don't grab it then, I'm pretty sure you can never get it.
Today I learned that exp plus was a thing in the original. I'd never seen it.
Yes, in fact its easier if you do so