Just started using this method this morning (post-game, so bit more to work with) and it works great. Hate having to rely on the RNG for Death, being able to consistently take down enemies with big numbers is much better. Don't like that recharging TP is a bit of a slog but it beats having to find a way around the stomps in order to bring down the legs.
Man.. i played this game 6/7 years ago was frustrating indeed to take this $hiet down, after watching this i feel it is time to payback. thank you, knowledge is power 👍
Sorry, I forgot to respond to this. Sazh and Lightning are respectively equipped with Strength and Magic boosting weapons and accessories. Sazh's Hyades Magnums in particular give him an incredibly high Strength stat that makes him highly viable here. Also, Deprotect/Deshell, Bravery/Faith, and Daze give an x5.292 damage multiplier, which together with stagger allow for lots of damage.
Daze doubles damage. Spamming Daze with two Coms is then the equivalent of four Coms' worth of damage, which is awesome. The equipment list is in the very beginning of the video. There's really no better thing to farm in Chapter 11 before Adamantoise, but I can work on something like that if you want.
I've used the same method as this video does.. it is nice if you have that weapon(Sazh's)... i accidently sell that and had to use other method ( Death).. but I've tried to raise your method's effectiveness by using summon's duration until the gestalt has depleted(dont use gestalt mode, shift to ravager and do your best building up the chain, my best was about 300%) and reaching 999.99% stagger state with Tri-Disaster then shift to Cerberus(3 COM). My Sazh's STR status is about 1300, Fang and Lightning about 1600 P.S : Suprisingly, Adamantoise doesnt get up within 1 min while your summon still there.
You can buy it from Gilgamesh, Inc. which is the first-time reward from Mission 46 (Zirnitra) in the Faultwarrens. Adamantoise gets up 60 seconds after he falls to the ground, but the timer is frozen while a summon is out.
Timing is a bit tight. If you want extra help, replace the Energy Sash and Tetradic Tiara on Sazh with more Strength accessories, and the Energy Sash on Lightning with another Magic accessory. This just requires you to constantly shift equipment before and after Adamantoise battles, but should make for easier kills.
Why do you use lightning as opposed to vanille for those debuffs? By stage 8 vanille should have all those. Is it because vanille as a ravager in your devestation paradigm would somehow mess up daze? Was wondering as getting lightning those abilities will take some time but I can start farming right now if vanille works.
Everyone is maxed out in all of their stage 8 roles (primary and secondary) here. Lightning is a much, much faster caster than Vanille, and so has a much higher DPS (damage per second) potential. It is also much easier to line up Lightning's Ruins against Fang's Dazes (they both cast at the same speed, whereas Vanille is slower and so not all of her Ruins will get the Daze bonus). But if you're still working on developing your characters, it might be fine to Vanille, provided she has Ruin and perhaps more Magic.
LewdDolphin21 Ah, I was not aware that lightning was a faster caster, in fact I only recently noticed that different characters had variable casting times in the first place lol... Okay, thanks for responding, I will just up lightning's saboteur role more then, currently farming Mission 7.
guhak Yeah, as far as offensive casting speed goes, it's Snow > Lightning = Fang > Hope > Sazh = Vanille. For defensive (i.e., buffing and healing), I'm honestly not entirely sure, but the order is something like Snow > Hope > Sazh > Vanille > Lightning = Fang. In other words, Snow is ridiculous.
COM Ruins are just as good as COM Attacks. Her DPS is higher with high Magic Ruins, and it's much easier to line up her Ruins against Daze instead of her Attacks.
I tried this strategy but the stagger goes down too quickly I get like half of its HP down and that's it. Then it stands up and I'm dead. And yeah, I checked the stats and everything should be fine.... Though it's not.
The double-damage happens while the target is Dazed, but then Daze expires, unless it's during the first couple seconds of infliction. By attacking while Fang is casting Daze, you ensure as much of your attacks get the double-damage bonus as possible by getting within that couple-second window.
does this Work well on the Eden one too ? i Need to Farm the Tier 3 Upgrade Items for my Weapons and the Death Trick only Works like 1 out of 20 times , and never get The Items
The Eden Adamantoise is as much an Adamantoise as the Pulse Adamantoise, so yeah, it will work. That being said, by the time you get to Eden you'll have unlocked stage 9 of the crystarium, so you'll have more HP, Strength, and Magic to play around with. Death as a strat isn't reliable enough to be worth it. Check out etrosgate.com/xiii/farming/oretoises for some discussion on farming strats.
LewdDolphin21 thx , i already did some grinding in the taejin tower for buying all normal Weapons ( for example the 300k Gilgamesh ones ) thats why i am Already Max Level , but i am very unlucky with the Death Trick , both Neochus took me for ever , and all adamans are not only hard to kill with death , they too have a low Drop rate (and i could atleast remove the Low Death Win Chance)
so I've been farming this for Plat ingots for 2 hrs now and haven't got a single 1. when I did this yesterday I got them all the time. is there any way to get a better chance for the ingot?
LewdDolphin21 Seems to on mine. I've tested it and I get more from several than just one, but that contradicts the facts, so it's just luck. I do however know that the Malboro Wand myth increasing the probability of Death to work is stupid.
It is pretty tight. If you are having a hard time, consider grinding Mission 63 (Adamantortoise). Those guys should be easier and more consistent to kill than Adamantoises.
2 things how did you get it's head down so it wouldn't attack it just 1 hits me when it stomps and how are u doing almost 100k damage I so 20k at max stagger and my health is at 4000?
because although he said stage 8, he completely disregards the fact that his gear is max level 2, and max cp everywhere (you only obtain this after game is basically 100% complete, which defeats the purpose obviously).
I dont get how youre possibly doing this much danage... I have stage 9 Crystarium maxed out with a single level 2 role of the non-main roles for each of my characters and i still do a fraction of this danage. How the fuck are you doing 5m damage in like 60 seconds? The thing recovers to his feet before i even get him to 90% hp...
Summoning automatically takes it down to the ground. Trying to fight it head on doesn't work so well until you have much more HP. Are you utilizing Deprotect/Deshell, Bravery/Faith, and Daze? They respectively confer x1.89, x1.4, and x2 damage multipliers. All together that's an x5.292 multiplier, so if you're using none of them that's why you're seeing 20k at max stagger. Also, make note of the stat boosts on the characters via my choice of weapons and accessories.
Lol, you can do whatever you want in your game. If you are still able to win consistently, then go with it. The only issue with using Vanille over Lightning is that it is harder to line up Vanille's attacks against Fang's Daze spam.
the devs really fked up with the stats on pleiades hi powers, the difference between maxed out rank 2 and 3 is like nothing, while the difference between maxed out rank 1 and 2 is gigantic. this is only possible early due to this, or people would be stuck death spamming.... thank god that's not the case.
Thank goodness I said to hell with it for this game and used Cheat Engine for Chapter 11 onwards (PC version only). As much as I love this game up to Chapter 10, this section and the rest of the game is so goddamn mindless and grindy, even if you B-line for the main-story stuff. I always like challenges such as XCOM and a fun grind like Grim Dawn, but FF13 was too much nonsense pushed at the very end when I am mentally done with the game. Worst, even with maxed out CP and Gil (weapons), my characters feel nowhere near as powerful as they should be. These stats are more diluted than any homeopathic medicine.
The way to be powerful in FFXIII is through strategy and tactics. Raw stats don't mean as much on their own because the math of the game is built around compounding multipliers.
@@tiornys I'm well aware, but my point was that even after dumping 999K Gil and 999K CP for upgrades (effectively, each party member got three times as much stats or 300% boosts) my party was still absurdly weak. That was by cheating whereas throughout the game up to Chapter 11 I never felt that I had to do the same thing.
@@SpartanWolf222 And my point is that even with cheating, you're not going to be able to roll over FFXIII's fights. On the other hand, with good strategies you can roll over the fights at normal development, i.e. where you fight most enemies on path and don't grind. With expert strategies, you can roll over the fights at near-minimum development, as proven by the game's speedrun featuring almost entirely non-mandatory fights (unlike most RPG speedruns which typically have a few sections of grinding).
you're a genius man
works like a charm... ty for this setup, now back to farming
Just started using this method this morning (post-game, so bit more to work with) and it works great. Hate having to rely on the RNG for Death, being able to consistently take down enemies with big numbers is much better. Don't like that recharging TP is a bit of a slog but it beats having to find a way around the stomps in order to bring down the legs.
Man.. i played this game 6/7 years ago was frustrating indeed to take this $hiet down, after watching this i feel it is time to payback. thank you, knowledge is power 👍
That's exactly how I felt when I found out you can auto ruby weapon in 7. I was heart broken but I had a childhood to avenge.
Sorry, I forgot to respond to this. Sazh and Lightning are respectively equipped with Strength and Magic boosting weapons and accessories. Sazh's Hyades Magnums in particular give him an incredibly high Strength stat that makes him highly viable here. Also, Deprotect/Deshell, Bravery/Faith, and Daze give an x5.292 damage multiplier, which together with stagger allow for lots of damage.
So you're farming it in the video with T3 weapon and maxed crystarium?
What did you do before this XD lol
Daze doubles damage. Spamming Daze with two Coms is then the equivalent of four Coms' worth of damage, which is awesome.
The equipment list is in the very beginning of the video. There's really no better thing to farm in Chapter 11 before Adamantoise, but I can work on something like that if you want.
Damn. Low level badass. I'm trying this
This is absurd... chapter 11? I am impressed.
hey, why do you change the same paradigms (devastation) many times? what is the effect of doing that?
Every 12 seconds, a paradigm shift refreshes everyone's ATB to max for free. This allows us to attack slightly faster over the course of the battle.
@@LogicDolphin wow still replying, thankss!!
i think this is best methods for low level...thumbs buddy:)
I've used the same method as this video does.. it is nice if you have that weapon(Sazh's)... i accidently sell that and had to use other method ( Death).. but I've tried to raise your method's effectiveness by using summon's duration until the gestalt has depleted(dont use gestalt mode, shift to ravager and do your best building up the chain, my best was about 300%) and reaching 999.99% stagger state with Tri-Disaster then shift to Cerberus(3 COM).
My Sazh's STR status is about 1300, Fang and Lightning about 1600
P.S : Suprisingly, Adamantoise doesnt get up within 1 min while your summon still there.
You can buy it from Gilgamesh, Inc. which is the first-time reward from Mission 46 (Zirnitra) in the Faultwarrens.
Adamantoise gets up 60 seconds after he falls to the ground, but the timer is frozen while a summon is out.
@LogicDolphin does this mean its more beneficial to cast death while the summon is out? (More chances before it gets up?)
Stuck at chradle orphan because of low damage..grinding time.
He keeps getting back up when i do this!
Timing is a bit tight. If you want extra help, replace the Energy Sash and Tetradic Tiara on Sazh with more Strength accessories, and the Energy Sash on Lightning with another Magic accessory. This just requires you to constantly shift equipment before and after Adamantoise battles, but should make for easier kills.
Why do you use lightning as opposed to vanille for those debuffs? By stage 8 vanille should have all those. Is it because vanille as a ravager in your devestation paradigm would somehow mess up daze? Was wondering as getting lightning those abilities will take some time but I can start farming right now if vanille works.
Everyone is maxed out in all of their stage 8 roles (primary and secondary) here. Lightning is a much, much faster caster than Vanille, and so has a much higher DPS (damage per second) potential. It is also much easier to line up Lightning's Ruins against Fang's Dazes (they both cast at the same speed, whereas Vanille is slower and so not all of her Ruins will get the Daze bonus).
But if you're still working on developing your characters, it might be fine to Vanille, provided she has Ruin and perhaps more Magic.
LewdDolphin21
Ah, I was not aware that lightning was a faster caster, in fact I only recently noticed that different characters had variable casting times in the first place lol... Okay, thanks for responding, I will just up lightning's saboteur role more then, currently farming Mission 7.
guhak Yeah, as far as offensive casting speed goes, it's Snow > Lightning = Fang > Hope > Sazh = Vanille. For defensive (i.e., buffing and healing), I'm honestly not entirely sure, but the order is something like Snow > Hope > Sazh > Vanille > Lightning = Fang. In other words, Snow is ridiculous.
Would it be better to equip a power glove as opposed to a weirding glove on light? since you're using her as a com, or am i missing something?
COM Ruins are just as good as COM Attacks. Her DPS is higher with high Magic Ruins, and it's much easier to line up her Ruins against Daze instead of her Attacks.
Ah, I see, thanks mate.
I tried this strategy but the stagger goes down too quickly I get like half of its HP down and that's it. Then it stands up and I'm dead. And yeah, I checked the stats and everything should be fine.... Though it's not.
+Ilati Nasaru Are you Blitzing when the Adamantoise is Dazed?
i been trying this for 3 days but the problem i cant find energy sash
any info how to get more energy sash
Do you need to attack while fang cast daze to get the double damage?
The double-damage happens while the target is Dazed, but then Daze expires, unless it's during the first couple seconds of infliction. By attacking while Fang is casting Daze, you ensure as much of your attacks get the double-damage bonus as possible by getting within that couple-second window.
@@LogicDolphin thanks planning to play ff13 again and want to beat adamantortoise this playthrough without the death method
@@LogicDolphin thanks planning to play ff13 again and want to beat adamantortoise this playthrough without the death method
does this Work well on the Eden one too ?
i Need to Farm the Tier 3 Upgrade Items for my Weapons and the Death Trick only Works like 1 out of 20 times , and never get The Items
The Eden Adamantoise is as much an Adamantoise as the Pulse Adamantoise, so yeah, it will work.
That being said, by the time you get to Eden you'll have unlocked stage 9 of the crystarium, so you'll have more HP, Strength, and Magic to play around with. Death as a strat isn't reliable enough to be worth it. Check out etrosgate.com/xiii/farming/oretoises for some discussion on farming strats.
LewdDolphin21
thx , i already did some grinding in the taejin tower for buying all normal Weapons ( for example the 300k Gilgamesh ones )
thats why i am Already Max Level , but i am very unlucky with the Death Trick , both Neochus took me for ever , and all adamans are not only hard to kill with death , they too have a low Drop rate (and i could atleast remove the Low Death Win Chance)
so I've been farming this for Plat ingots for 2 hrs now and haven't got a single 1. when I did this yesterday I got them all the time. is there any way to get a better chance for the ingot?
Collectors Catalog starred up on every player. Only have one on each player though.
Maxing the Collector Catalog has no effect. Neither does equipping more than one across the party.
LewdDolphin21 Seems to on mine. I've tested it and I get more from several than just one, but that contradicts the facts, so it's just luck. I do however know that the Malboro Wand myth increasing the probability of Death to work is stupid.
thanks buddy :)
its not use he keeps geting up i'm doing exactly like you sahz has 2100 str but still cant do this tried manny times but he gets up...
It is pretty tight. If you are having a hard time, consider grinding Mission 63 (Adamantortoise). Those guys should be easier and more consistent to kill than Adamantoises.
2 things how did you get it's head down so it wouldn't attack it just 1 hits me when it stomps and how are u doing almost 100k damage I so 20k at max stagger and my health is at 4000?
because although he said stage 8, he completely disregards the fact that his gear is max level 2, and max cp everywhere (you only obtain this after game is basically 100% complete, which defeats the purpose obviously).
@@Hitokiiry ah thank you! It's been on my mind daily and I could never figure it out.
I dont get how youre possibly doing this much danage... I have stage 9 Crystarium maxed out with a single level 2 role of the non-main roles for each of my characters and i still do a fraction of this danage. How the fuck are you doing 5m damage in like 60 seconds? The thing recovers to his feet before i even get him to 90% hp...
ty i see now
I tried this Adamantoise farming guide for 1 hour and it did not yield me 872,000 gil at all. It only yield me 300,000 gil in 1 hour.
what does daze do in this battle?
and can you make a video what equipment u use and where to farm before you battle with adamantoise????
is the daze part necessary?
Yes, it doubles the other two party members' damage.
Why don't you fight that cactus?
whats the use of energy sash?
To restore a slight bit of TP for each kill. It is necessary to regain the TP in three fights.
Summoning automatically takes it down to the ground. Trying to fight it head on doesn't work so well until you have much more HP.
Are you utilizing Deprotect/Deshell, Bravery/Faith, and Daze? They respectively confer x1.89, x1.4, and x2 damage multipliers. All together that's an x5.292 multiplier, so if you're using none of them that's why you're seeing 20k at max stagger. Also, make note of the stat boosts on the characters via my choice of weapons and accessories.
is it cool if I use vanille
Lol, you can do whatever you want in your game. If you are still able to win consistently, then go with it.
The only issue with using Vanille over Lightning is that it is harder to line up Vanille's attacks against Fang's Daze spam.
hey cool hey can we be friends
Lol, I don't use google+ for anything.
me neither
LewdDolphin21 and I was talking about vanille over lightning
i cant do this how are you strong
the devs really fked up with the stats on pleiades hi powers, the difference between maxed out rank 2 and 3 is like nothing, while the difference between maxed out rank 1 and 2 is gigantic. this is only possible early due to this, or people would be stuck death spamming.... thank god that's not the case.
im at stage 9
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Thank goodness I said to hell with it for this game and used Cheat Engine for Chapter 11 onwards (PC version only). As much as I love this game up to Chapter 10, this section and the rest of the game is so goddamn mindless and grindy, even if you B-line for the main-story stuff. I always like challenges such as XCOM and a fun grind like Grim Dawn, but FF13 was too much nonsense pushed at the very end when I am mentally done with the game.
Worst, even with maxed out CP and Gil (weapons), my characters feel nowhere near as powerful as they should be. These stats are more diluted than any homeopathic medicine.
The way to be powerful in FFXIII is through strategy and tactics. Raw stats don't mean as much on their own because the math of the game is built around compounding multipliers.
@@tiornys I'm well aware, but my point was that even after dumping 999K Gil and 999K CP for upgrades (effectively, each party member got three times as much stats or 300% boosts) my party was still absurdly weak. That was by cheating whereas throughout the game up to Chapter 11 I never felt that I had to do the same thing.
@@SpartanWolf222 And my point is that even with cheating, you're not going to be able to roll over FFXIII's fights. On the other hand, with good strategies you can roll over the fights at normal development, i.e. where you fight most enemies on path and don't grind. With expert strategies, you can roll over the fights at near-minimum development, as proven by the game's speedrun featuring almost entirely non-mandatory fights (unlike most RPG speedruns which typically have a few sections of grinding).