Great Job..I hate to be picky but when you swung the left rotor straight..you had your hand on the tin backing plate and you bent it towards the rotor I have seen this a lot on cars I have repaired..I always bend them back and away from the rotor..because if they rub or a rock gets stuck under them they make all kinds of weird noises..Thanks for the video
Sam is the man! I stored my lower ball joints in my deep freezer overnight, then pulled them out right before I pressed them in. I think it helped a lot. I just did this last month on my C10, well worth it.
I am starting my brake conversion on my 1965 chevy . The video helps ! Thanks for sharing ! I'm going to do ball joints and tie rods as well . Thanks again !
@@BROTHERSTruckPartsTVAWSOME Show and Tell 👍🏻 I’ve used the Floor Jack also to take off the Spindles . Just make Sure you have a Motor In the hood . The weight will help !
Great video but I was nervous as all hell when he was pulling the lower ball joint, I kept looking at the spring wondering when it was gonna pop out and him him in the head glad everything worked out great!
Down the road when parts wear out, are calipers, pads, and rotors available separately? Seems like a nice kit, but not if you can't maintain it. I checked the website and didn't see the parts available seperately, but maybe I looked in the wrong place.
Will this kit fit stock steel 6 lug rims on my 1968 chevy c10? Id like to convert to disc brake and keep my powder coated 6 lug rims and just ordered whitewalls so definetly dont want to change rim size. Thank you for informative video.
I have a 1962 chevy C10 which I will be putting disc brakes on for the front, is there a vehicle that I can snatch the spindle from used that would work for my application, or will I have to buy them new? Or is there an adapter bracket that I can buy instead?
Ruben, the studs should be the same size? Why does your truck have small studs? Doe you mean it has 5 studs instead of 6? We have conversions for 5 lug and 6 lug trucks at www.brotherstrucks.com
@@BROTHERSTruckPartsTV it's having 6 studs which 11 mm.i wasn't trying to fit the nuts from Ford f100 but they can't fit.and I tried to fit the nuts from my 67 C10 truck to Ford f100 and they are small
@@rubenfilippus2956 our 6 lug units have 7/16" (11mm) studs, our 5 lug units have 1/5" studs, does that answer your question? If you need more help with this PLEASE CALL US at 800-977-2767, it is very difficult to do technical troubleshooting through CZcams comments.
Can someone give me some advice, i have a ‘68 k20 4 wheel drum non power brake. I want to convert it to front wheel disc brakes and add power brakes. I have no clue where to start being that nobody sells kits for 4x4 trucks.
I'm working on a 72 Chevy c 30 with duallies. Trying to replace the rotors. I suspect the upgrade was already done. None of the rotors I have ordered fit. The rotor itself is too thick for the calipers. Help
You need to change the factory master to a Disc/Drum master that will deliver proper pressure front and rear as well as hold residual pressure in the front. Not sure, but you might be wanting to convert to Power Brakes at the same time. Check out our website www.brotherstrucks.com for all the possibilities.
Im gonna be upgrading in the next week to disc brakes All the kits I dont see anyone including a backing plate. Do I really need one? It's for a 1970 c10
I know this is an OLDER Video, and it does look interesting but I have a 1970 Chevy Suburban 4X4 and I am looking for info how to CONVERT That from FRONT Drum to DISC. I have done the 2 wheel drives, and THATS ALL the INFO out there anymore. So If anyone can help PLEASE LET ME KNOW! Thanks!!
As far as we know there is no commercially available 4x4 Disc conversion. Most guys switching pre-1971 4x4's to disc just use a front axle from a 1971 or later truck. Sorry we couldn't be more helpful.
@@BROTHERSTruckPartsTV Ok, thanks anyway. I was told by one you tuber "as long as its a dana 44 the spindles should be the same, without switching the hole diff/rear end, being as I can NOT find anything with disc front end on it. So I'm kinda in a rut, but time will find a way! thank you..
@@BROTHERSTruckPartsTV Might look into seeing if 71 and up small bearing blazer stuff would bolt on. I will link a video. would be great to see as a kit from you guys. czcams.com/video/Xui-MHOVX7M/video.html
@@Rogue_wyo Tossed this over to the product development guys and they already knew something about this. It sounds like the small bearing spindles would have to be manufactured before a kit could be offered. Otherwise, pre-1970 K guys would have to go out and get a set of spindles from a junk yard, etc before they could mount all the parts for the conversion. This doesn't appear to adapt onto the factory drum spindle.
I have a 1987 GMC Sierra S15 Mini truck and I'm trying to do a conversion on the rear drum brakes is that a hard task and do you have a video for this type of vehicle 🤔
Couple of questions.... i have a 63 im slowing fixing up, i am interested going to disc brakes on the front. Would i need to replace the original booster? And will the fit 6 lug gm wheels?
In '63 your factory brakes had a single cylinder master which we always recommend you convert to dual cylinder for safety reasons... so YES, we would say replace the original Booster/Master combo. As for the 6 lug wheels, our disc brake conversion will fit behind MOST 15" factory 6 lug wheels. If your wheels are 14" however, there is almost ZERO chance of them fitting with the disc conversion.
UPDATE: After a doing a little research regarding wheel fitment, we've found a few variables that make some 15" wheels NOT FIT with the disc brake conversion. Primarily, if your 15" wheel has only 3 "nubs" on the center of the wheel to retain a hubcap then your wheel will probably NOT WORK with disc brakes. If your 15" wheel has 4 nubs for hubcap retention, then it WILL WORK with disc brakes. Thank you for asking, we hope this helps.
@@georgecurrier5018 I'm wondering the same thing. I have a 69 GMC, 6 lug drum brake set up. It would be great if I can pick up from a junkyard everything I need.
Great video! Question for you. Do I need a new Master Cylinder and booster to install this kit? Or will it work with my original Booster/master cylinder? I know I would need to add a proportioning valve right?
Ideally you should at least change the master cylinder. Disc type master cylinders have a different bore size than those used in a drum brake system. Additionally, most disc type maters cause a small amount of residual pressure to remain in the lines to keep the pads from retracting too far.
@@BROTHERSTruckPartsTV Thank you so much for the reply! Definitely going to upgrade the master cylinder. You just earned my business. Thank you again...
You can do a disc brake conversion without adding power providing you run the proper master cylinder and proportioning valve. However, we would recommend doing both at the same time.
No my problem is during assembly. My new ball joint won’t fit into my New lowering spindle. Like I can’t even thread castle nut at all to get to cotter pin.
You have the wrong spindle then. They make these spindles with various different sizes/tapers to accommodate particular years of ball joints that were different sizes. It sounds like you have a spindle that's got an early size tapered hole. If you bought them from us then call our Customer Service at 800-977-2767 and let's get it handled.
Roger, typical tapered bearings can be manually adjusted using this method: "... in the case of a conventional truck non-driven wheel with a single adjusting nut design, manual setting involves tightening the adjusting nut while rotating the wheel until a slight bind is felt. Then the adjusting nut is backed off 1/6 to 1/4 turn to the nearest locking hole or sufficiently to allow the wheel to rotate freely with some minimal end play. The adjusting nut is then locked in this position. Skill and judgment are required to determine when the wheel binds slightly in rotation." For more on this subject you can visit www.timken.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/5556_Bearing-Setting-Brochure-1.pdf Thanks for asking!
We have a disc brake conversion that you can find on our website here: www.brotherstrucks.com/71-72-WILWOOD-DISC-BRAKE-CONVERSION-5-LUG/productinfo/DBU5L25/ Another option is the Complete Big Brake Kit with Power: www.brotherstrucks.com/63-87-COMPLETE-BIG-BRAKE-KIT-WITH-POWER-5-LUG/productinfo/CBBK875/ Please feel free to call us during regular business hours to make sure this is the exact kit that will work for your application.
BROTHERS Truck Parts one more thing guys, I don't know much about breaks except replacing them, I was wondering if these come with dust seals, I see in the description that it states it has dust caps, are those the same thing? Hey and thanks for the quick response. I wasn't expecting a reply so fast.
Adding front disc brakes is a safety and convenience step that most classic truck enthusiasts do. however, adding rear disc brakes is up to you and ultimately what you want your build to be. As far as install cost, we would estimate it between $400-$750 depending on the shop you choose.
You can convert it to disc, but first you have to convert it to 1/2 ton parts. It's really not that big of a deal, just an extra step for the 3/4 ton guys.
@@robert.williford527 That can be done, but the specifics of that conversion are too much to get into in CZcams comments. Call our shop at 800-977-2767 and have one of the Tech Guys go over it.
Our disc brake kits won't work on a 4x4, 2wd only. Customers who have converted to disc on 4wd trucks normally just swap the axle for a later axle with discs.
On this truck we used a 6-Lug "Deluxe" conversion, but you might want to check out the other options here and decide what you prefer www.brotherstrucks.com/Front-Disc-Brake-Conversions/products/2139/
good video....no horsing around with telling his whole life story...he gets right to it...step by step...well done.
Great Job..I hate to be picky but when you swung the left rotor straight..you had your hand on the tin backing plate and you bent it towards the rotor I have seen this a lot on cars I have repaired..I always bend them back and away from the rotor..because if they rub or a rock gets stuck under them they make all kinds of weird noises..Thanks for the video
Sam is the man! I stored my lower ball joints in my deep freezer overnight, then pulled them out right before I pressed them in. I think it helped a lot. I just did this last month on my C10, well worth it.
Great Tip!
Do I need a brake booster when installing this kit?
@@anthonysao8830 it's up to you. I run mine with a wilwood master, no booster. I like manual brakes much better
Been following you since shadytree garage back in the 90's
Damn it! I knew he looked familiar 👊
GI GUNS 0341 I thought his voice sounded familiar
I am starting my brake conversion on my 1965 chevy . The video helps ! Thanks for sharing ! I'm going to do ball joints and tie rods as well . Thanks again !
You bet! Have fun with the project.
@@BROTHERSTruckPartsTVAWSOME Show and Tell 👍🏻 I’ve used the Floor Jack also to take off the Spindles . Just make Sure you have a Motor In the hood . The weight will help !
Great how to video that shows the simplicity when going disc. I wish I had the enthusiasm the instructor has!
The correct way to break ball joints and tie rod ends loose
Nice job.Great video.It's good to see you still turning wrenches.God bless.
Thank you sir!
Sam is the Man!
Wow what a gentleman easy to follow
awesome, remember Sam back from Shadetree mechanic!
He is a true PRO!
Thank you . I am now hooked on your videos . Great explanation. Straight talk.
I miss Shade Tree Mechanic.. Memories
Sam was a great teacher!
great video. Sam does a great job.
Awesome video!
Thanks for checking it out!
Great video but I was nervous as all hell when he was pulling the lower ball joint, I kept looking at the spring wondering when it was gonna pop out and him him in the head glad everything worked out great!
Yes you would have to have the Motor in the vehicle to do that !!!!
Down the road when parts wear out, are calipers, pads, and rotors available separately? Seems like a nice kit, but not if you can't maintain it. I checked the website and didn't see the parts available seperately, but maybe I looked in the wrong place.
Yes, completely replaceable using later model Truck replacements.
Will this kit fit stock steel 6 lug rims on my 1968 chevy c10? Id like to convert to disc brake and keep my powder coated 6 lug rims and just ordered whitewalls so definetly dont want to change rim size. Thank you for informative video.
Just had mine done. Pretty trick...love em
I have a 1962 chevy C10 which I will be putting disc brakes on for the front, is there a vehicle that I can snatch the spindle from used that would work for my application, or will I have to buy them new? Or is there an adapter bracket that I can buy instead?
There's nothing out there that will bolt straight on to the '62, you're stuck buying disc conversion spindles that are specific for your truck.
@@BROTHERSTruckPartsTV I Agee - that’s what I am going to do to my 66’ -soon ...
I have a 67 C10 truck but it's having small wheel studs.will the big studs fit in the same drum and Axle?
Ruben, the studs should be the same size? Why does your truck have small studs? Doe you mean it has 5 studs instead of 6? We have conversions for 5 lug and 6 lug trucks at www.brotherstrucks.com
@@BROTHERSTruckPartsTV it's having 6 studs which 11 mm.i wasn't trying to fit the nuts from Ford f100 but they can't fit.and I tried to fit the nuts from my 67 C10 truck to Ford f100 and they are small
@@BROTHERSTruckPartsTV I mean the wheel bolt and nuts
@@rubenfilippus2956 our 6 lug units have 7/16" (11mm) studs, our 5 lug units have 1/5" studs, does that answer your question? If you need more help with this PLEASE CALL US at 800-977-2767, it is very difficult to do technical troubleshooting through CZcams comments.
@@BROTHERSTruckPartsTV Exactly
Absolute great job!
Yes great job
Good work
Thank you!
Can someone give me some advice, i have a ‘68 k20 4 wheel drum non power brake. I want to convert it to front wheel disc brakes and add power brakes. I have no clue where to start being that nobody sells kits for 4x4 trucks.
What master cylinder did you guys use with this conversion that has a brake booster.
We use one the ones available here: www.brotherstrucks.com/Power-Brake-Conversions/products/2142/
I'm working on a 72 Chevy c 30 with duallies. Trying to replace the rotors. I suspect the upgrade was already done. None of the rotors I have ordered fit. The rotor itself is too thick for the calipers. Help
Call our shop and lets see if we can help figure it out. 800-977-2767
What difference does the dropped spindle have from the stock height ? does it make a difference when lowering the truck ?
2.25" drop
How much do a conversion kit cost for a 69 Chevy C10 front disc brake
Check our current prices at www.brotherstrucks.com
What size rim/wheel will fit on the 66 front disk brake conversion site only says stock(15”)won’t fit but will a 16” fit?
99% of stock 15" or bigger wheels work. There are VERY few wheels that won't. We've actually never come across any that don't.
website says these won't fit stock wheels. Are these 15 inch rally wheels stock and will this kit work?
It really depends on the wheels offset when you are running 15". Contact our office at 800-977-2767 and we'll help you sort it out.
If I’m doing this on my 69 c10 do I need to do anything to the factory master cylinder/booster?
You need to change the factory master to a Disc/Drum master that will deliver proper pressure front and rear as well as hold residual pressure in the front. Not sure, but you might be wanting to convert to Power Brakes at the same time. Check out our website www.brotherstrucks.com for all the possibilities.
BROTHERS Truck Parts thank you
Where can I get a conversion kit for a 1940 Chevy pick up?
Will 15” rally wheels fit over the 12” rotors?
The rotors in this kit are 11" and they will fit with a 15" rally. 12" rotors will most likely NOT have enough clearance on most Rally Wheel offsets.
I have a 68 suburban all stock. Will this kit fit with my original wheels?
Im gonna be upgrading in the next week to disc brakes All the kits I dont see anyone including a backing plate. Do I really need one? It's for a 1970 c10
It's not necessary. It was a factory installed item in the 60's-70's and it's not common to put them on when doing a conversion.
@@BROTHERSTruckPartsTV great thank you.
I know this is an OLDER Video, and it does look interesting but I have a 1970 Chevy Suburban 4X4 and I am looking for info how to CONVERT That from FRONT Drum to DISC. I have done the 2 wheel drives, and THATS ALL the INFO out there anymore. So If anyone can help PLEASE LET ME KNOW! Thanks!!
As far as we know there is no commercially available 4x4 Disc conversion. Most guys switching pre-1971 4x4's to disc just use a front axle from a 1971 or later truck. Sorry we couldn't be more helpful.
@@BROTHERSTruckPartsTV Ok, thanks anyway. I was told by one you tuber "as long as its a dana 44 the spindles should be the same, without switching the hole diff/rear end, being as I can NOT find anything with disc front end on it. So I'm kinda in a rut, but time will find a way! thank you..
Buenas tardes muy buen video pero de qué modelo son los mangos o de que año
Nice job!!!!
Thanks!
Is it the same kit for a 65 as 72 c10 or are they different?
Different kits. Balls joints, tie-rods, etc are slightly different through the years, so the parts in the kits also vary.
What factory steel wheel will work with this brake conversion - working on a 65 C10. Thank you.
Pretty much any of the 15" wheels will work.
So 15” stocks will fit?
@@edwardnunez218 yes!
Where can I buy a proportioning valve?
we have a few options here on our website: goo.gl/KtWYdK
68 C30 disc brake swap please. Guess I should look into a cross member change from a 73-87 C-30
Yeah, bummer nothing is available for the C30. Your best bet is to piece one together from a later year model truck like you said.
these are great, but what about us K vin guys? do you have a conversion for the 4x4s?
Us K guys (we have 3 here at the shop) only option at the moment is to swap axles. No kits are currently available (Sept 2020)
@@BROTHERSTruckPartsTV Might look into seeing if 71 and up small bearing blazer stuff would bolt on. I will link a video. would be great to see as a kit from you guys. czcams.com/video/Xui-MHOVX7M/video.html
@@Rogue_wyo Yessir, thank you buddy! We'll check into this and maybe something good will come from it. Appreciate it!
@@Rogue_wyo Tossed this over to the product development guys and they already knew something about this. It sounds like the small bearing spindles would have to be manufactured before a kit could be offered. Otherwise, pre-1970 K guys would have to go out and get a set of spindles from a junk yard, etc before they could mount all the parts for the conversion. This doesn't appear to adapt onto the factory drum spindle.
ya the video mentioned spindles from g2.
What the tie rod end?
Depends on what conversion you are doing.
Great vid. 😊
Question from Australia mate;
*is it the same conversion on the 1977 454 C30 ?
Or is it a different conversion?
Regards
Steve
It would be a different conversion on a C30. Unfortunately we do not carry that conversion at this time. Sorry!
@@BROTHERSTruckPartsTV that's cool mate. It's great that you took the time to reply. Thankyou 😊
I have a 1987 GMC Sierra S15 Mini truck and I'm trying to do a conversion on the rear drum brakes is that a hard task and do you have a video for this type of vehicle 🤔
We don't do anything for the mini trucks, sorry!
Will this kit work for a 1965 C20?
Call our customer service department at 800-977-2767 amd one of our techs will help you out!
How long does it take to do this dis brake conversion ?
Usually about 6-8 Hours.
Couple of questions.... i have a 63 im slowing fixing up, i am interested going to disc brakes on the front. Would i need to replace the original booster? And will the fit 6 lug gm wheels?
In '63 your factory brakes had a single cylinder master which we always recommend you convert to dual cylinder for safety reasons... so YES, we would say replace the original Booster/Master combo. As for the 6 lug wheels, our disc brake conversion will fit behind MOST 15" factory 6 lug wheels. If your wheels are 14" however, there is almost ZERO chance of them fitting with the disc conversion.
UPDATE: After a doing a little research regarding wheel fitment, we've found a few variables that make some 15" wheels NOT FIT with the disc brake conversion. Primarily, if your 15" wheel has only 3 "nubs" on the center of the wheel to retain a hubcap then your wheel will probably NOT WORK with disc brakes. If your 15" wheel has 4 nubs for hubcap retention, then it WILL WORK with disc brakes. Thank you for asking, we hope this helps.
I had to go 16" min went with 17" wheels for my upgrade 6 lug also
How can I convert front drum brake to disk by using Parts from wrecking yard.
@@georgecurrier5018 I'm wondering the same thing. I have a 69 GMC, 6 lug drum brake set up. It would be great if I can pick up from a junkyard everything I need.
Great video! Question for you. Do I need a new Master Cylinder and booster to install this kit? Or will it work with my original Booster/master cylinder? I know I would need to add a proportioning valve right?
Ideally you should at least change the master cylinder. Disc type master cylinders have a different bore size than those used in a drum brake system. Additionally, most disc type maters cause a small amount of residual pressure to remain in the lines to keep the pads from retracting too far.
@@BROTHERSTruckPartsTV Thank you so much for the reply! Definitely going to upgrade the master cylinder. You just earned my business. Thank you again...
do I need a bigger master cylinder?
You don't need a larger one, but you probably need a different one.
Will this disc brake conversion required Power Booster to assist braking?
You can do a disc brake conversion without adding power providing you run the proper master cylinder and proportioning valve. However, we would recommend doing both at the same time.
My lower castle nut won’t tighten enough to get cotter pin on- can I use ball joint press to tighten down spindle onto joint?
you'd be better of to back it off a little bit to the next notch that the cotter pin can be put through instead of trying to use a ball joint press.
No my problem is during assembly. My new ball joint won’t fit into my New lowering spindle. Like I can’t even thread castle nut at all to get to cotter pin.
You have the wrong spindle then. They make these spindles with various different sizes/tapers to accommodate particular years of ball joints that were different sizes. It sounds like you have a spindle that's got an early size tapered hole. If you bought them from us then call our Customer Service at 800-977-2767 and let's get it handled.
@@BROTHERSTruckPartsTV I agree Omggg
What about the rear
Great video. What’s the torque specifics for the spindles?
Roger, typical tapered bearings can be manually adjusted using this method:
"... in the case of a conventional truck non-driven wheel with a single adjusting
nut design, manual setting involves tightening the
adjusting nut while rotating the wheel until a slight bind is felt.
Then the adjusting nut is backed off 1/6 to 1/4 turn to the nearest
locking hole or sufficiently to allow the wheel to rotate freely
with some minimal end play. The adjusting nut is then locked in
this position. Skill and judgment are required to determine when
the wheel binds slightly in rotation." For more on this subject you can visit www.timken.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/5556_Bearing-Setting-Brochure-1.pdf Thanks for asking!
@@BROTHERSTruckPartsTV exactly
Where can I buy this for a 1971 C10 half ton, Long bed, 5 lug?
We have a disc brake conversion that you can find on our website here: www.brotherstrucks.com/71-72-WILWOOD-DISC-BRAKE-CONVERSION-5-LUG/productinfo/DBU5L25/
Another option is the Complete Big Brake Kit with Power: www.brotherstrucks.com/63-87-COMPLETE-BIG-BRAKE-KIT-WITH-POWER-5-LUG/productinfo/CBBK875/
Please feel free to call us during regular business hours to make sure this is the exact kit that will work for your application.
BROTHERS Truck Parts you guys are awesome. Thanks guys!!!
BROTHERS Truck Parts one more thing guys, I don't know much about breaks except replacing them, I was wondering if these come with dust seals, I see in the description that it states it has dust caps, are those the same thing? Hey and thanks for the quick response. I wasn't expecting a reply so fast.
Yes they do!
should i put front and back and what is the best price to do the job or kit
Adding front disc brakes is a safety and convenience step that most classic truck enthusiasts do. however, adding rear disc brakes is up to you and ultimately what you want your build to be. As far as install cost, we would estimate it between $400-$750 depending on the shop you choose.
why did you use 2 different trucks for install ?
We didn't, it's the same truck start to finish.
Do you guys make disc conversion kits for 67-68 3qtr ton chev pu?
You can convert it to disc, but first you have to convert it to 1/2 ton parts. It's really not that big of a deal, just an extra step for the 3/4 ton guys.
BROTHERS Truck Parts ok but I’d like to keep the 8 lug wheels front and back; any advice?
@@robert.williford527 That can be done, but the specifics of that conversion are too much to get into in CZcams comments. Call our shop at 800-977-2767 and have one of the Tech Guys go over it.
Fix the backing plate....... bent it at the end of the show
Good eye!
Would this kit work on my 66 gmc k1000?
Our disc brake kits won't work on a 4x4, 2wd only. Customers who have converted to disc on 4wd trucks normally just swap the axle for a later axle with discs.
What’s the assembly kit number to order?
On this truck we used a 6-Lug "Deluxe" conversion, but you might want to check out the other options here and decide what you prefer www.brotherstrucks.com/Front-Disc-Brake-Conversions/products/2139/
Didn't he have a show
He hosted Shadetree Mechanic for 15 years before hosting Two guys Garage, Motorhead Garage and Sam's Garage. He retired last year.
@@BROTHERSTruckPartsTV glad he is taking easy ! I’m trying-to myself
No life story for sure.
Holly buying brothers sucks