Why You NEED To STOP Streaming In 2023...
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 27. 06. 2024
- Twitch is losing millions of viewers every single month, the post-lockdown era of Twitch and streaming, in general, is showing that Streamers need to adapt how they're trying to grow, does this mean you need to stop streaming in 2023?
Should we spend less hours spent streaming and more hours spend creating long-term content and farming views with CZcams Shorts, TikToks, videos, and more! All this is being covered today!
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Why Is Twitch Discovery Not Good for Small Streamers
Twitch sorts their categories by most viewers, which means it is what we call a Kingmaker system, essentially when one Streamer gets lots of viewers, they rise to the top of the category or get more recommendations causing them to get more viewers who come browsing Twitch.
So beginners or small streamers often sit right down at the bottom of the categories and never get any clicks, because nobody scrolls down 20,000 streamers to find them, and nobody uses the filters over here to check by recommended or smallest despite what you might hope.
In reality, very few even check categories, most Viewers actually go straight to their Follower List or Favourite streamer meaning discovery on Twitch is relatively slow to start out.
Think about it, when you type twitch.tv into your bar, it usually auto-completes to your favourite streamers channel, not to a specific category or the homepage.
This kingmaker system has led to A LOT of outcry from smaller creators asking Twitch to do more for them and their discovery and in turn the same reason why educators such as myself or harris often push you guys to diversify across other platforms with algorithms such as TikTok or CZcams⊠even if you hate that advice with all your heart.
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0:00 How Streamers Are Ruining Their Chances To Grow
2:00 The Worst Streaming Mistake New Creators Make!
2:45 Why Growing As A Streamer Is Almost Impossible
3:30 Why 2020 Was Easier To Grow As A Streamer
4:00 The Truth About Growing As A Streamer
4:50 Why Streaming More Hours Means Less Growth
5:00 What Analytic Is Most Important For Stream Growth
6:00 Why Your Motivation To Stream Determines Your Growth
8:00 How Creators Accidentally Ruin Their Own Growth
9:00 How To Grow As A Creator In 2023
11:30 How CZcams Is Helping Small Creators Grow In 2023
13:30 Your Most Important Tool To Growing As A Creator
What Bitrate And Settings Should I Use For Streaming?
The easiest way to understand bitrate is by calling what it actually is, your upload speed to the Twitch servers.
Now youâll need a higher bitrate depending on how high quality you want your stream to be, this means 1080p 60 frames per second will need a bitrate of 6000, which roughly equals 6megabits upload speed on your end being taken up
By lowering your resolution and framerate, you can make it a lot easier to stream, for example, if you set your base canvas size to 1920x1080, but change your output to 1280x720 otherwise known as 720p you drop down to only needing a bitrate of 4500 or 4.5megabits.
If you still want 1080, you can even just lower your framerate from 60fps to 30fps and then adjust to 4500bitrate.
For more information visit this Bitrate graph: stream.twitch.tv/
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Hey Early gang and Notification squad! I hope this video doesn't come across harsh, I've had it in my drafts for a few weeks ready to go out, just a bit nervous people will mistake concern for a personal criticism, also my side channel is doing far better than shown in the video now so that's out of date as well! Hope it is interesting or helps!
đTimestamps:
0:00 How Streamers Are Ruining Their Chances To Grow
2:00 The Worst Streaming Mistake New Creators Make!
2:45 Why Growing As A Streamer Is Almost Impossible
3:30 Why 2020 Was Easier To Grow As A Streamer
4:00 The Truth About Growing As A Streamer
4:50 Why Streaming More Hours Means Less Growth
5:00 What Analytic Is Most Important For Stream Growth
6:00 Why Your Motivation To Stream Determines Your Growth
8:00 How Creators Accidentally Ruin Their Own Growth
9:00 How To Grow As A Creator In 2023
11:30 How CZcams Is Helping Small Creators Grow In 2023
13:30 Your Most Important Tool To Growing As A Creator
Nah not too harsh. Everything you're saying is true. If people get the hump then they aren't in the right mindset to succeed. Fun first! Anything else is a bonus.
You know? I think I agree more with what you mean than with the way you put it when you say it's not working harder to stream more hours a day, more days a week. I agree that it's a sign of low effort per hour of content. It certainly requires less mental strength. Maybe the way you put it works better for the majority of streamers, so I'm still intending to share this one with other small streamers.
If anyone is gunna degrade me itâs you and @shallelujah so itâs ok. Itâs also like Iâm listening to my inner dialogue tear me apart but itâs with a ausi accent now so I kinda believe and trust what the voices are saying now lmfao!
Someone has to tell and rethink everything
You did a great job Eljay, good information and production value as always
I stream for 3 hours, 3 times a week and have fun with it. I have grown less and less over time, but I am treating it more like a hobby these days. The small community of regulars that show up are awesome people, and we still pick up people from time to time and having fun is what matters to me most right now. Solid vid Eljay, grinding achieves nothing but burnout.
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That's almost exactly what I do, even started it to just have my friends see me playing games I care about or they do. At this point, it's much more like a fun hobby that while I take a little seriously, it's just for fun and the rare bits of money.
@@DJSkywalker716 thats what losers say.
Same actually, I've been doing 3 hours, 3 times a week for a few years to balance other things. Growth slowed over the years where I've been stationary for a while, but it's fun with the community I've built đȘđ»
Same here, starting off at 4 hours ish 3 times a week. It's a side gig as I also develop and work on my artistic journey. One of my streams so far is specifically an art stream that motivates me to actually work on more art than I would otherwise, because I LITERALLY have to stream to an audience that is expecting to see some art. Easiest artists-block busting thing ever.
I've taken the last year off of streaming to broaden my knowledge and even studying in fields that I hope IMPROVE my content in the long-term. It also helped me realise that I seriously needed a safety net outside of Streaming and Content Creation, and I can't bank everything on something that's not just feasible. "Stop grinding" is such an important and underrated mindset in this industry. The "Grindset" mentality is severely unhealthy and the sooner people know that, the better. You've never steered us wrong ElJay, and I thank you for that.
Wonât see you at the top then?
@@SAHtoshiDude Well that's the thing. Some people are totally fine with being average or medium size. It's not always about being number #1 in an industry for everyone. Sure you can have that mindset to get you to where you want to go, but even I, with my 870 followers on Facebook, enjoy my smaller community of dedicated viewers. Am I aiming for more, of course, but the competition is too steep, too daring, and too young for me to compete at the top. But best believe I will be having my days in the sun. Happy Streaming!
it literally makes no sense to grind streaming tbh... on my main channel Tuelz i stream like once a week and can get 300 concurrent views and getting 30k views on the stream... i just focus on real videos.... i got 40 million views and 140k subs in the last 3 months like i would literally never have did that streaming. The streams are just random for the fans and the fact i go once a week and dont save them so pppl watch it and it does good plus you can get like $200 of donos for each weekly stream. If i had to give advice it would be just do videos streams tbh arent worth it unless your big
@@tuelzalt with numbers like that you donât need to grind. Not everyone has that many viewers they can stream one time and be good. You guys donât wanna grind and make a channel worthwhile then donât, donât complain when someone does want to grind and make it past you. See ya on the sidelines fellas lol
@@SAHtoshiDude no but that's the point he was making... just grind normal content. Streaming tbh is lazy... I make animations... it's something most ppl cnt do so I stand out and streaming is just a random thing indo to connect to the fans outside of animations. Ppl really put streaming first and wonder why they dnt grow. Ishospeed and adin Ross are 1 of a million chance of happening. But me gaining 140k subs in one year is hard but way more common. I seen at least 6 YTs get 100k subs in the this year that I've collabed with. It's way more common then blowing up streaming. You have to get a following first before streaming. Even speed had like 60k subs before he started blowing up. Adin too at like 100k like ppl really be having 2k subs and streaming everyday wondering why they aren't growing. A video can get views and subs forever not a stream. Videos from 8 months ago are still giving me like 5-10 subs a day and I upload everyday do imagine all them combined everyday plus new videos I gain around 1k subs a day which is way more then if I streamed everyday. To me personally streaming and leta plays are the laziest content on YT follow by vlogs
I have felt for a while now that i've lost a lot of motivation for streaming. And your videos helped me reorient my thinking and focus more on other platforms. I started focusing on video editing and design to try and improve what I am doing.
I feel good now. Creativity is beginning to flow again which is some thing I haven't felt in to long. So thanks, Eljay! It's awesome to see you succeeding.
Hey let's help eachover my name is itsdaisytt on twitch I would appreciate any support I can get thank you dood vibes only :))))
I want to thank you for this. I stopped streaming in June because I was feeling like this. That constantly streaming and not working content like CZcams was hurting me. I've spent the last couple of months relaxing and planning and focusing on what I want to do.
Fast forward and after thinking about all ive learned in my YEARS of streaming, I've deemed 2023 as my repackage. And everything you discussed here are things that I've came up with on my own. Hearing you say this really made a lot of my anxiety and uneasiness dissappear because I feel like I'm moving in the right direction. It makes me excited to once again start creating and adapting. You really have created a monster in me and I love it. Thank you!
I've always said streaming less is the key, and I get chastised ALL THE TIME when I bring it up! Thank you so much for shedding light on this topic
This is one of many reasons why I have huge respect for you man. When I started I was streaming 4/5 days a week now I'm streaming 2 days a week for an hour or so. I'm finding it so much more rewarding creating content outside of streaming, making and editing videos and learning new skills and streaming is now secondary. Great advice buddy!
This is THE most important video for us to watch moving into 2023. I'm sharing this with all my streamer friends. Thank you for this.
Thanks mate :) just hope it helps
Hey let's help eachover my name is itsdaisytt on twitch I would appreciate any support I can get thank you dood vibes only :))))
A lot of people do not always have the time to watch a stream, to chat or to show up every day 8h a day like you are doing for them. More people have time for videos that are always available. Twitch is good for letting your viewers enjoy a real time conversation. But time is everyone's most valuable resource. More people appreciate videos (Or even VoD's of your previous streams) more than the time you actually spend live.
Right! I don't watch any streams, but videos I watch at my leisure. People have lives and are busy. I noticed quality of live streams suffer too and videos are always higher quality content.
Youâre my favourite creator who helps other creators. Your videos are so high quality, and the video is over before I realise because the topic is so interesting, well presented and your pacing is perfect. You didnât need to apologise for this, I know it was exactly what I needed to hear. I am so impressed you have all these channels at these quality levels, if you have editors or anyone helping you could you make a video on how to expand your team/find the right people? Iâm at the stage where I want to create more but I need help, and I just donât know where to start looking for someone.
I've tried Editors, but sadly they never work out. Most don't put the time or care in the way I like, I'm not perfect, so I've tried giving people months of practice and feedback. Sadly, most just don't match the style, so I have just decided I'll do it alone and try my best till I can one day find an Editor who gets it :)
@@StreamScheme Iâm the same with not feeling like others care as much as I do about the edit! Wow so you do all these channels by yourself?! đđ»đđ»đđ» Makes me feel lazy đ đ
Hey let's help eachover my name is itsdaisytt on twitch I would appreciate any support I can get thank you dood vibes only :))))
I really appreciate this. I just celebrated 1 year on Twitch yesterday after not streaming for two weeks due to finals and the support I received was over the top. They didn't care that I had taken time off from streaming. I've been active in my discord that I share with a few other streamer and they were genuinely stoked to see me. It's not about quantity. It's about quality yeah?
Thank you so much for saying your piece about this! I'm glad it's not just me who can't stand the grind/hustle culture with streaming. As someone who works full time but interested in streaming, that mindset really feels like a gatekeeper comment to prevent people who want to look into streaming cuz they can start to believe the falsehood that you have to be LIVE sooooo many hours out of the day in order to grow. Thank you for sharing~ â„
I use to get a lot of shame for only streaming twice a week for an hour or so. âYou arenât streaming long enoughâ was what they said. In reality, I was working on other projects learning new skills to make my content better. I mastered TikTok, launched a horror podcast and leaned how to manage my social media well. I may not have the largest following, but I am proud to say I have very close community of followers and fans. This year, I am working on revamping my CZcams with a new idea that I will launch in February. Again, learning new skills, having fun and diversifying my content is my goal⊠and I am hitting that every week.
I was streaming a good amount before starting my CZcams channel but ended up taking a long break due to some life change (all good things). I fully agree with the "stream less" approach. At the moment I am planning on just streaming once a week on Twitch for a couple of hours or so which is a lot less than I was doing before. My main focus is this little CZcams channel that I'm slowly working on. I'm not on here thinking I'm going to get super famous and rich, I have just found that I enjoy creating content and its been cool to see how my content progresses in quality as I go! Not everything has been a hit and I can't always post consistently due to time (full time job and family) but it's been fun so far!
This video comes at a perfect time as I've been making this exact transition lately! In 2023 I'm not going to be streaming regularly anymore, instead I'll fully focus on making content for CZcams as that it the one thing I've gained energy from over the past months.
Also I think I speak for a lot of people when I say that I really appreciate the 'real talk' about content creation and streaming. I never think you're too harsh on us, but then again I've also never streamed 7 days a week for 8 hours straight, so I've never felt attacked either xD
Hey let's help eachover my name is itsdaisytt on twitch I would appreciate any support I can get thank you dood vibes only :))))
Started streaming in February of this year. What a grind it has been. I really didn't know what to properly do to grow at all until around May I would say. But lately I've just been dropping in stats all around so now I am trying to refocus on making better quality shorts that viewers enjoy and will go from there. I think the biggest struggle part for me at this point is the time/effort on making long form content worth it right now. CZcams shorts seem to being going in a good direction for me so I am super happy about that. Now just trying to figure out what the next best steps are to grow.
Growing IS incredibly hard as a streamer, but my favourite part of it is the real time interaction with viewers. I'd love streaming and content creation to be my full time career, BUT, for now I work a full time job, am a single father and am an active charity activist so I slot my editing/streaming in between. However I do watch your videos and others like it when they come online, I try new practices while editing all the time and see myself improving. Growth has been slow but It does exist.
I appreciate the honesty though. You're a top chap. You won't be destroyed.
We can discuss how much easier it is to grow a YT over a Twitch all day, but it's another thing to experience it first hand. I went from grinding out Twitch streams 4 days a week, barely squeezing it with work (often missimg streams because of it x.x) and ignoring YT to releasing a new vid and at least 1 short every day on YT and just streaming once a week for fun. My YT reached 100 subs in less then 2 months; it took my Twitch 10 months to reach that many subs. I'm still learning and growing, of course, but I feel a lot more capable on CZcams than I ever did on Twitch. Just my experience is all ^^
Full disclosure, I'm not just grinding daily vids for the sake of grinding; I legitimately just enjoy making content
I started streaming just 3 days ago. This video is a nice wake up call for me, but also, inspiration and a push to put myself out there. I have the youtube channel for a reason, and you're absolutely right about using this first, and then the stream. As someone whos completely new to content creation, any advice(harsh or not) is good to have. Put's me in a real mindset, and not trying to have that grind mentality. I'm not trying to dig myself into a hole that I can't climb out of. Streaming for me right now is for fun, but it's also long, long term goal.
Thank you
Great video!! đ love your snorlax in the background, I have the same one! â€ïžđ
I love the realism that you provide and I do try and add everything that you said and itâs starting to work thank you so much for the amazing advice on how to create
Hey let's help eachover my name is itsdaisytt on twitch I would appreciate any support I can get thank you dood vibes only :))))
As someone who has been mostly streaming via Twitch since it's "easy content" - I genuinely needed to hear everything in this video.
I've been wanting to focus more on CZcams content (long-form + shorts) for a while now, but I've been very tunnel-visioned on Twitch as my main platform, even when I was telling myself that I was just using my Twitch stream as a method to record content, I always ended up hyper-focusing more on Twitch than everything else.
I'm currently in the process of planning out how to run my CZcams channel going into 2023 using some of the advice from various videos you've provided us. and I think I have a solid foundation ready to go!
Imagine the amazing video you could make in 8 hours that has the potential to be seen for a year or two continuously. Rather then a stream that when it ends, no one will ever watch again
True talk, Iâve found that when I âgrindâ everyday my âregularsâ donât show up ironically, but when I take a few days off and then stream, my regulars show up. Itâs weird, but I guess it contributes to âdistance makes the heart grow stronger.â Distance meaning the space between streams and heart meaning the viewership. Best thing we all can do is set up a weekly schedule and stick to that schedule: M/W/F @ 4PM. No more, no less. Thanks buddy! Great video! đđ»đđ»
Your videos are always so damn insightful! Thank you for this!
i recently came across your videos, love them! ive had great success growing so far and these tips are gonna help ten fold to continue!
It's been really interesting watching you making this shift from Twitch to evergreen content over the past year and honestly, I appreciate it. I've valued your opinions and words in every place you have stated them and this is a hard truth video that no one wants to hear, but truly needs to. Thank you for always being real.
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Glad to have caught this one as early as I did.
I've been saying the same thing to myself, as someone who has been within the content creation circle for over 8 years now, but only really had true passion for it for the last 15 months or so, it's been helpful.
I work a 9-5 in the UK, and realistically, my time would be much better spent making more on demand content, which is what i've been working on learning now for over a month. Hours piled into passion projects in Premiere Pro, just to get my own editing style ready. Alongside this, streams have been doing well too. But it is upsetting to see people who will go live every single day, skip meals etc and not think to themselves at some point "surely this can't be the right thing to do". Twitch literally doesn't show any form of care for its smaller creators, which is proven with their lack of response to follow bots and hate raids, (I get both quite frequently but we move) when its literally an API feature they need to disable. (I know its more than that, but the bottom line of it is that it could just be a toggle on the list of permissions an app may want)
I'm excited to see what the true benefit will be on a personal scale, when I start to get the content I want to make pushed out, the fuel is there, and so is the match, I just need to spark it and let it go.
Always a pleasure to watch the videos too, insights into things I wouldn't have thought about otherwise. Insanely valuable.
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You sir are fantastic!!
Just earned a new sub and a MASSIVE amount of respect!
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This was super helpful thank you so much. It was the wake up call I needed.
this was really useful man, thanks a ton! i'd already planned out a good bit of this but this has REALLY helped me. Right now thanks to you and a few other streamers golden nuggets of info, i've decided to improve my ability to be interesting for a few streams then when im more happy i feel like i can push out to creating content around stuff that im proud of. again, just thanks a ton!
Every time I feel stuck with my content I come watch your videos because you always have such good advice and you always gives me a motivation boost! Thank you so much for these, it really helps remembering what I love about creating videos and streaming.
OMG please don't be sorry!!! Thank you so much for all the SOLID advice you give! I have been slowly but surely increasing increasing my youtube content thanks to the advice you have given! Yeah I have been slow to start with only bi weekly videos, but I am getting there! I look forward to your next video!
I just hit affiliate in a little under 2 months. I like to stick to the days for streaming but vary my times. And I am on so many different platforms. Honestly, the engagement with viewers in Discord is huge, but I value the advise on shorts. I see long streams as my fun time, but I plan to short them all by around 20% so I can focus the rest of that time I already have set aside on growing my skill set and learning more tech to reach people. This is a dream for me, but I also know we live in a different time. Thank you for this video! It makes me feel like I'm making the right decisions as the rest of the world is starting to get back to "normal".
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Thanks for this video! I was trying to understand how can I grow up with streams and creating content, and your video was the answer I needed.
Thanks for your dedication to teach small creators to grow up.
That was a great video, and adds more reason to why I decided to start learning how to use video editing software so I can spread out more. Something about your video though that I wanted to bring up is at the very end there's text saying "subscribing is free" but it's covered with the other items (video link and whatnot). Was that planned, or is that something that can be worked around so the text wouldn't be obscured?
Love your videos man! Thanks for advice! â€ïž
Thank you so much for all the info you shared with us! It's amazing how honest you are about this.
This is great information, I tapped in thinking you were going to talk about twitch vs CZcams , but no you hit a topic which i agree. Once I started streaming lees and working more in content Iâve actually had more engagement with viewers
All the people who tear you up are just people who don't like hearing they were wrong. I can accept the fact of you have been streaming and creating for far longer than everyone watching stream scheme and if we should to ask anyone how we should do it, it should be streamers who already faced these struggles. You're our mentors in a way. (Video was amazing BTW)
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Thanks for your videos mister. Because of your help affiliate came in 45 days and CZcams is growing as well with little effort. Now to put in the extra effort with the edited content and Iâll be caught up to you in no time. Keep up the work mister I appreciate it!
This is so encouraging u have no ideaâŠTY. As a newb Iâm currently been feeling this lately but I honestly donât care about the daily long hours & or playing most popular games. I just wanna have fun & actually enjoy what iâm doing & if i can inspire just a few people, so be it âĄïžđđœâĄïž
Thank you for all your videos!! i know you have helped me in areas I needed work. but I 100 percent agree with this video!! thank you for making it!!!!
Great video and points
It's actually solid Infos for any1 who is trying to pick up streaming
Thank you. Needed to hear this. I stoped streaming a couple years back, due to school and wanted to take care of myself. And itâs felt like Iâve given up on that. So itâs good to hear that I dont need to stream all the time to get back into it.
Very nicely put, thank you for this video. I loved it! Discovered this myself after grinding for a while. Now I am just creative, when I can as much as I can, not just wake up, turn on the cam and hit go live :D
I think one of the huge (and I bet most underestimated things) people will takeaway from this video (in addition to not destroying time / health with streaming) is the power of truly niching down (or focus), as this makes those 'touches' a heck of a lot easier for both algorithms and more importantly viewers. Something I'll be utilizing with my own (secret) channels I started over the last month or so to really utilize experience I've gained over the years on original channel (minus its MANY mistakes) and the sage experience of others such as yourself. Another great vid, cheers
Honestly I had a good amount of growth in my first year which was 2020 and I have noticed that my streams have been quieter as of late but I have to remind myself daily that everyoneâs back out there doing school or going to work now. and thankfully I know when to start doing things differently and I was quick to realize that I probably have to do content elsewhere just to get where I want to with streaming and growing a community, So Iâm glad you put this up to help those who donât know about things like this! đ
It's a hard truth that I needed to hear. My most successful piece of content ever was a video card review that has almost 60k views. I fell out of making edited content (or any content at all) for over a year. Coming back, I've been streaming a few days a week for a few months, and that video still gets more views every week than all my recent streams combined. I know I need to create shorts and go back to crafting edited videos, but my biggest hurdle is getting that creative bug. I feel like it's this switch with a mind of it's own that decides when it wants to turn itself on, and until that moment comes I beat my head against a brick wall for ideas.
Anyways, great vid! I've stumbled on your content a few times, finally hit the sub button!
I'm newer to streaming but it's something that I genuinely enjoy, and I think your advice is invaluable. I'm not expecting to be successful, but I'm hopeful and have fun learning through expert content creators like you. It's important for all of us to hear this - I didn't take it as harsh for sure - It's all in what we do with the info we're given, and I'm thankful you take the time to give us your advice.
Very informative video! THX for making it :) Not sure I understand they correctly... the short format and the long format videos on the same niche, are they on the SAME YT channel? Or do you have a channel for short and one for long formats... ?
AWESOME and SOLID tips bro, thanks for the quality content u provide!
Yet again, Thank you for this video. Sharing everywhere!
I feel so awkward because a lot of my local streamers (streamers who are about my size) are all in this grindset mindset and from my perspective it's quite infectious. It's not the mindset I've taken and as a result it often feels kind of isolating- which of course is probably a lot of the reason why so many smaller streamers adapt that mindset.
Thank you for this video- it's informative and affirms a lot of my feelings towards content creation!
Edit: STOP SAYING SORRY DARNIT!!
Oy! Solid Vid! Appreciate the realistic approach to streaming, as well as all the good tidbits in here that could help a new streamer.
Eljay with the real talk as always. Streaming IS absolutely easier to do than video editing, and definitely more immediately fun. And we should get to have some fun, right? I'd almost say that's where some of the resistance is to focusing on more permanent content.... but I dunno, this grinding doesn't seem like much fun at all.
As another point, it's very easy to hit "go live", but it takes work to make a good stream. Just like it's easy to open DaVinci Resolve and haphazardly trim some clips, but it's gratifying and rewarding work to learn how to actually make proper videos. Source: me, who is finally getting over her Bad At Video Editing nerves and getting excited about it.
when i started at the beginning of the year, i was definitely a grinder, and it was working at first. but after a while, i hit a plateau and wasnt getting the new viewers and followers. i started to push myself harder, stream longer, more frequently when i could. until it started to burn me out. id see my average views dipping even though i was streaming more and more. now, I stream a few hours here and there, when i feel like it and i feel like my streams have improved a lot because of it. your videos/advice have been so helpful, thanks a ton man!
Firstly great video! Love the tips and truth behind streaming/content creation.
I've slowed down my streams to 3-4 hours and only 1-2 times a week depending on work/school and working on outside content. I've noticed a bit uptick in viewership this year averaging 22 viewers over 8 from the year prior.
The grind has burned out so many I know. Take care of yourselves friends and have fun!
Really appreciated this video, your my go to for learning about streaming and its helped me and my twitch channel so much thank you for putting yourself out there!
Glad I'm seeing this now. I'm getting things ready to start content creating soon, and after watching this and some of your other videos, I'm realizing that I was about to start grinding. Sure I INTENDED to make other content eventually, but it wasn't as big of a priority as it should have been. Thanks man.
Feels good to know Iâm not the only one thinking this. I got burned out from streaming Sep 2022 after being in a contract for 2yrs forcing me to stream 6 to sometimes 10hrs a day. Never had any time to edit or grow elsewhere and felt like I was throwing great content away day in and day out. Jan 2023 iâm now free of that contract and picked up photoshop to start learning how to create my own thumbnails and build a audience on youtube. This video was exactly what I needed to hear. Thank you! -new sub as well đŻ
Truly crazy a platform convinced people to literally donate their lives for basically nothing in return. Ive always found that to be a strange phenomena for majority of streamers. Im also really suprised no other company has managed to outperform twitch because so many people are trying their best to make it work
Great and informative tips, enjoyed watching đ
Much needed info to push me in the right direction, thanks mate đȘđŒ
Definitely a good videao here! And let's face it, yes, indeed, the streaming landscape is now different than it was 2 years ago -- I am myself a "lockdown streamer" (and a lockdown viewer as wlel, in fact!). So I'm really not surprised at all.
Only recently come across your channel and videos and it really makes me look at things in a completely different way. Thank you for the videos you do and for just trying to help people be better at what they want to achieve. đđ
i have just recently started to focuse my content on other platforms as i was feeling abit stale and feeling like i wasn't getting anything out of twitch anymore yes i still stream on twitch here and there but recently my main focus has been youtube and tic tok its good to hear exactly what i have been thinking the past few days.
Such a great video! đ well done!
bro thank you so much for this, im one of those people your talking about who do countless hours of livestreams if you check youll see what i mean, so im really taking this all in and i will be making HUGE changes to how often and how long i live stream. Thank you again for this, i needed a " slap in the face " to wake me up. ps: Dont worry about how this video does or the reactions because only the serious creators will understand what your saying in this video. CHEERS
Hey let's help eachover my name is itsdaisytt on twitch I would appreciate any support I can get thank you dood vibes only :))))
I applaud you for telling the hard truths people need but donât wanna hear đđŸ
ohh okay im new to your channel n i really love your tips! its not cliche and its not rushed! you really took your time for us!! 100% appricated! My question of the day is What are the keywords we can use for 2023 twitch streaming, how can i transfer my twitch streamers to my youtube for "singing" ? aannndd do gaming or anime content creators make a whole schedule of what to post for the past week? (if so what do you guys specifically use?)
6 followers on twitch here :)) Trying to improve and learn and from all that I have researched on this topic, yours was genuine, honest and filled with good advice as opposed to a "standard" list of tips and tricks
Thank you! Really needed this going into 2023
thanks needed to hear this
these are super helpful! thanks man
Brilliant video! My biggest issue is that I don't use other platforms to grow and I rarely ever see growth on twitch and then lose motivation.... Great video honestly!
What if you like doing different things like enjoy achievement hunts or playing a game in an odd way (Stardew without farming, DBD hiding contest) hypothetical lore discussion over different games or even reviewing a new random game from him le bundle. I find myself enjoying many different types of content all focused around gaming/nerd stuff but a wide variety of games. I have been wondering if I should make multiple channels and devid the content or if different playlists to sort it works alright if it's still under a somewhat similar topic.
Lots of streamers needed to hear this. Thanks for posting dude! We appreciate that you care :D
Thanks for this! I took a long year break from streaming and content creation in general to rest and heal because I was seeing this "trend" come up a lot. Many of my peers were MISERABLE streaming... I had to ask myself... why? Why keep streaming?
Taking this year to slowly creep back into content creation and its super validating to hear some of my late night musings and thoughts come straight from your mouth as advice lol
Your videos can be hard to watch sometimes. Because they're very real and to the point. I like that though.
Anyway thanks!!
I've taken an extremely long break from streaming. When I first started I didn't realize how much it took to grow. At first, I was just streaming so I could take a look back at the moments of me and my friend playing together, or I just wanted to make people laugh and smile. Sometimes, I don't even know IF I'll get back to streaming anytime soon. I've been mostly recording my gameplays on OBS to look back on. Also, I'm not that good of a commentator in general. When streaming alone, I'm more of the silent type. But to be honest, I found that streaming back in.... 2000 something Idk when I started streaming, probably 2019 or somewhere near there, it was so much easier to stream. But now I just never feel like streaming, it's like the enjoyment of streaming has gone completely for me. I still look back at when I did stream and I am so so glad I have moments I can look back on.
Im thankful that I bumped into this video. These are real inputs about streaming and I've also observed a lot of this on people that I know personally. I really wanted to make quality content and all of your advice are really eye opening. Thank you and wish me luck!
I waited to watch this and just finished watching it today, and it was really nice to hear that. Thanks for making this.
Iâd just like to say thanks, your videos taught me pretty much everything I needed to know to get started streaming, and now Iâve hit affiliate! I was unwell so was able to devote a bit more time to streaming, but this is just the inspiration I needed to expand my horizons đ€
Hey let's help eachover my name is itsdaisytt on twitch I would appreciate any support I can get thank you dood vibes only :))))
Man I gotta say Iâve been live streaming for almost a year now, as to which Iâm seen some growth however now Iâm starting to feel stuck. Glad I came across a few of your videos within the past week. Theyâve been helpful đ
Thank you so much for making this video, I really needed to hear this. All your advice is super insightful for someone not so familiar with twitch
I used to watch what other streamers were doing and try to emulate what they were doing. That was not working for me at all and I kinda gave up on trying to stream at that point. After a couple months of not streaming I went live again and started streaming every couple of days just things that I wanted to actually do like playthroughs and such. I also just started being myself more. After I did that I started getting views and follows and within two months I made affiliate. I have a very small community but they are loyal and being small allows me to connect with viewers that are now mods in my channel and discord and I play games with them on and off stream and have even gotten them started streaming. I have watched alot of your vids on here taking bits and pieces of each and applying it. It has helped alot so I owe alot of my growth to your advice on your videos. Thank you!
Love this video! I get pretty concerned for my streaming buddies when I see them streaming for 6hrs or 12hrs - like, dang, even from a 'growth' perspective it feels so risky to their health. And so many streamers, especially young streamers, don't really believe deep-down that their time has value. I made a conscious choice not to work a job with 12-hour shifts despite better pay because of the severe health impact out-of-hours ('unsocial hours' for USA peeps I think?) work has, there's no way I'm doing an 8hr stream for a fraction of what I'd get doing my full time job, especially when that sort of regular lengthy stream is going to put me in the risk zone for carpal tunnel and various musculature issues.
can't get full time results without putting in full time work
I've recently changed my streaming schedule from 2 days a week to one day a week. This change has helped me put more time and effort into diversifying my content. I have so much more time to edit videos and post funny tictoks. I just want to let you know you have helped me out in more ways than you can imagine. I'm truly grateful for all your hard work in trying to help us all out. Your advice is not in vane, at least not with me. I hope you keep growing and keep helping those you care about brother!
I love this, you're using your platform for good! You've helped me so much
I want to say thank you for this video, because I know it will motivated you to keep being honest with us. Building a community, people you love and who love you is a hard and long way - but its not impossible, its just takes time and sustain
This was a really good video bro, I really feel like youâve changed my view for the better.
Thx for good videos!
This video was amazing, thank you so much, this has taught me so much, and it has put me on a path, keep up this momentum you awesome human being!
This has been on my mind for such a long time now, but you've put all of that so beautifully in this video which is an eye opener for so many small streamers.. Thanks man!!! đ»
There was no need of that "sorry" in the end... You've no idea how helpful this video was for small creators like me đ
Thank you for the tips! Starting out fresh in 2023 and this helps alot :)
Thanks for this!
I really have been struggling of how to do both twitch and CZcams but I'm realizing that I will have to give up more of one to do the other. Come 2023 I'm going to be focusing more on CZcams!
hey! I do all of these! I am still new, but it is working ! I think something it would be cool to see you talk about next time (just because I like your content!) is that also, when you get people to come over to twitch, you have to make them feel welcome/give them a reason to stay since its not the same as a 10 min vid. or short! I see some people make this mistake, and they end up having a really big twitch following, but not high ccv! im curious what you would have to say! But this video, and all it contains, are really important thing and I have found all of them to be true in the short time I have been here!
Interesting video and as a content viewer first and "streamer" second, this is bang on. I only have so much time in my day to view streams, and if I see that it's a streamer who is going to be on for 5 hours, I'll go watch the streamer who is only on for 30 mins first. My thinking is that the "grinding" streamer can be my backup, but rarely will I actually go to that streamers channel as I usually end up getting distracted by some other content.
Honest to god, more streamers need to see this video. I know streamers who have the grinding mindset mentality, plateuing for months at a time and inevitably just giving up because of exactly what you said. I feel like part of the problem is learning how to edit videos can be intimidating and/or expensive but as someone who taught myself how to edit and finding free but powerful programs like Davinci Resolve, it can definitely be done. I had the same problem of streaming endlessly without seeing much progress and I'm definitely shifting more towards content creation on platforms like youtube before I'm even going to think of streaming properly again. Especially with the ability to schedule videos and premieres on youtube. It's definitely a case of work smarter, not harder. Thank you for this video, I hope it reaches as many streamers as possible!
this is a great video, a real take, I appreciate it