HONDA CR 500 AF vs APRILIA SXV550
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✖✖ DESCRIPTION: HONDA CR 500 AF Supermoto onboard Vs APRILIA SXV 550 @ GoKart Circuit
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The sound brought me back to my kx500. The slow loss of revs with the "wing ding, pops" . I miss big 2 strokes. Thanks for posting a cool vid.
Exactly. That CR 500 run very well in terms of performance and speed, but the sound it makes, kind of disappoint people, because it's not a 2-Stroke revy sound .
Yes you're right, CR 500 is like a stock mopped 50cc ( 6 hp ) in state of tune but with 500cc. That's why it has the potential to go from ~55hp to 100 hp ! If you check out my videos, I have a Yamaha RD 500 V4 ( 88hp stock ) and now has more than 130hp and runs like hell, the same theory has the CR500 .. stock bad .. tuned runs great
RacingSM no cr500 will make 100hp don't even try to claim that shit.
@@EnkeiTenjin Heavily ported, piped and running on methanol you might make close to 85.
It's easy to talk.
Maybe you can present us a video of you opening full throttle on a CR 500 on a GoKart corner perhaps ?
You or another person, I repeat, on a GoKart circuit corners. :)
Already answered you on the other video, I was pushing all the revs of that CR 500 engine. The engine doesn't rev a lot. Check out my other videos of 2-Strokes, I know how to push a 2-Stroke engine revs.
That's what I've tried to explain .. those engines don't rev .. and I was pushing all the revs of the bike in the first gears on the straights of that GoKart Circuit .. but they only rev until 7500 - 8000rpm with a ProCircuit / FMF pipe ..
Own this bike 3++ years.Over 25.000klm on the clock.Over 75hp on the rear wheel.(lots of tunning in the enigne).Never had a single problem.Except some minor electrics.Burned stator and a fried starter that was my mistake. Motor can be Bulletproof when some good hands take care of it and a guy with true knowledge.Motor is very special and it must be treated like that,Otherwise you will feel sorry real soon like your friend.
Yes, its our Husaberg FS 650e supermoto, you can check out plenty of videos of it on our channel :)
The Honda CR 500 on this video wasn't ours, it was from a friend of ours who let us test-drive it ;)
Good to see a two banger being ridden well thanks.
No one says the CR 500 doesn't have tuning potential, the question is, with STOCK ENGINE internals ( portmap and cylinder head stock ), only using aftermarket pipes and Vforce reeds it isn't a monster.
Of course, decently tuned it can have 70, 80, 90 hp or even more, but also, a decent tuned Husaberg 650 with or without bigbore 710cc can also make more than 80 rwhp .. search on CZcams .. if you check my videos, I'm a 2-Stroke fan, but there are some serious 4-Stroke aswell .. like Husaberg 650
Husaberg made 61 Nm rear wheel torque @ 5700rpm, but still has 50 Nm @ 8000rpm ( rev limiter @ ~9000rpm ).
Show me a mild tuned CR 500 making that kind of rear wheel torque @ mid-range and @ top-end.
About the track, it works for both sides ( CR 500 & Husaberg ), my Husaberg was running 15 - 38 with 6 gearbox, it's also an engine which likes wide open spaces for full-throttle aswell !
The ghost of John Robinson is loving this! Awesome.....
because it doesnt worthing When rebuilt time is coming. Costs a lot! Now im using it as a track bike and rarely on the street. Im very happy with Sxv after 4 years of hard use, Also mind that my mates 2009 and 2006 crf blew up!
That Honda sounds pretty nice. Even though the audio probably doesn't do it justice.
I had a n Husaberg FS650E supermotord on the Dynojet a few months ago, both bikes on SAME dyno. CR500 ported with CPI pipe made 4hp more and just over 61nm of torque, the Husaberg made 56nm at around 6000rpm, at 9000rpm with around 40.6nm.... The CR500 also made the exact same at 9000rpm believe it or not... The Husaberg made the most power up to 6000rpm, but from there the CR is much stronger and kept the power the same way as the Husaberg. Dyno graphs to proof... All on CR500 riders as well..
This CR 500 is not ours :)
It's from a friend of mine who told it had around that power.
From my test-drive with this CR 500, and from my experience with my exotic 2-Strokes, I don't believe this CR 500 had 80hp.
Even my Husaberg 650 ( 60 rwhp & 61 rwNm ) seemed more powerful on this GoKart Circuit !
This CR 500 had a complete FMF pipe, jetting and aftermarket reeds as I remember !
No Bombarral e nos outros Trackdays nunca se usou transponder para ver tempos. Só no Trackday em Fátima ( 2011 ) e Santo André ( 2011 ) é que se usou, mas esta CR 500 só andou no Bombarral ( 2012 neste vídeo )
the guy riding the sxv needs to step up his game. first time anything smaller then a 600cc bike been in front of an SXV
He's doing it right for that 500. They are low end torque monsters. Just twist the throttle and shift it as fast as you can. I was actually thinking he could stand to be a gear higher thru the corners. It'll pull it.
I know, that's why I told that a well tuned CR500 can make high HP numbers . The question like I said before, it's not doubting the CR5 potential, but that a stock or almost stock CR 500 is not faster or more powerful than some 4-Strokes ! When I rode my Berg and that CR5 on the Track, my Berg felt more powerful and seemed faster ! And I know how to distinguish 2-Stroke and 4-Stroke behaviour and " illusion " :)
The CR 500 wasn't mine, I was just test-riding it, so I couldn't push it hard on corners in order not to crash .. but on the fews straights I've pushed it full throttle like I said before, these engines just don't rev and they lack of top-end power
I saw a few months ago the forum thread about a Liger build on a quad .. plenty of pipes made and tested .. between 99 and 108 hp if I recall .. around 9500rpm using CR 250 ignition .. :)
If anyone wants to see the graphs, I will gladly e-mail them... This CR500 was a super build, turned out very well... Spinning up to 10000rpm with serious power and torque.. Its on 93 pump gas, stock timing etc... We are in the process of developing a new pipe to get at least 5hp+ more out of it with the new ignition also going on....
After the engine is warmed up and with that kind of rythm using 2% premix, it's normal to not see smoke :)
The Berg we dynod had a full exhaust system on as well... Different dynos, different numbers... But compare 2 diifferent bikes on the same dyno and there is no argument... Nice bike not trying to start WW3.... The Liger CR600 made 110hp and 92nm torque! Yes its a totally new cylinder, but I just call it 21st century tech vs the old 80s tech on the 500... Not sure if the Berg will hold its own there... even the 700 big bores can't come CLOSE! :-)
Enjoy your bike man!
Very cool bike! I do enjoy that low rev power. I have an older CR500 (87). How did you get that engine to pump out 80+ hp? That's a butt-ton of ponies man!
Not my bike for going to it's limits leaning corners.
The engine is like that, even with the installed aftermarket pipe, it simply is not a top-end revy engine like a CR 125 or CR 250.
I was on the powerband ( midrange )
I understand you perfectly .. I also have that problem on some of my videos as well .. :) Cheers
Toda a gente acha isso, mas apenas por estarem mal informados, uma CR 500 com curso 79mm faz à volta das 7000 - 8000rpm obviamente que não faz a rotação de uma CR 250 que tem curso 72mm e atinge 9500 - 10000rpm ou de uma CR 125 que tem curso 54mm e faz 12500 - 13000rpm ...
Insult ?? Relax?? LoL. Dont give a fuck dude what other saying. But i hate the fact that tons of lies are beeing said about this bike and most of them from guys that have never even see it in person. Thats all.Keep riding .Guess im sooooooo lucky that after about 4 years of riding the first production (2006)Sxv and more than 25.000 hard likometres on the clock the Italian beauty was near perfect,faster than almost anything on 2 wheels on the street and issue free.Cheers
My friend had one of those Aprilias. it was the worst kind of crap he had ever owned. it blew up two engines in two months, then he gave it back to the shop and bought another bike. It was quite fast. For a very short time...
Johnny Lehti that's what happens when you buy an Italian monster and don't understand the tricks and procedures to make it last. It is not a reliable bike if you don't want to do the maintenance. Like anything fast, keep maintaining it and it'll last. Your friend either had shit luck or didn't give a fuck about servicing it PROPERLY and with the right fluids. You can't flash the ecu yourself with your stupid timing profiles and fuel maps and then call it a piece of shit coz it blows up. Get real banana peel
Nice to chat on this topic and behave, for that I can see you are a grown up... You are 100% RIGHT... I admit it, a STOCK CR500 has good torque with only about 5hp more then a 450 0n my dyno believe it or not... I believe a wel setup 450 can outrun a STOCK CR500... One thing we have to keep in mind, the CR is OLD tech and the 450s are almost state of the art.... Stock CR500 owners have NOTHING to brag about :-)
CR500 all the way!!! LOVE that 2 stroke sound!
Its the first time im coming across that " quality is random" .I dont thing thats right.I have seen a lot of Sxv's and Rxv's.Have many friends/onwers with Sxv/sxv. All its reliable.Especialy the mate with the 450 Rxv have never ever had a small issue. You comparing a Slow commute bike with a 100% Hard core racing bike? This bike shouldnt have plates and shouldnt ridden on the street. Have you ever seen the service manual of the Sxv.Take a look of it to find out what SXV means.
I agree! A lot of power, less vibration, light... A masterpiece, motorcycle art.
That thing must be soo much fun to ride!!.
Show me a vídeo of you riding your CR 500 which " revs much harder than this one " and also you cornering faster on a small GoKart Circuit
Ok, that's good that yours is reliable, but the quality has been very different from bike to bike. I guess you have fixed the problems as your engine has been modified. By the way: Did you dyno your bike in the same place as your friend with the CR500? Do you have any dynosheets to show?
Are you rev matching during those downshifts or just dumping the clutch?
Yes, I always rev a little with the throttle on downshifts in all of our bikes ( 2-Strokes & 4-Strokes )
Search my dyno on CZcams with " Husaberg FS 650e Dyno - 60 rwhp & 61 Nm "
You're talking about a PORTED CR 500 with COMPLETE EXHAUST.
My Husaberg made 60 rwhp & 61 Nm only with DOMA SILENCER , the engine and headers are completely stock ! ;)
Great video, but please take all those ads off the screen.
I agree 100% i own an Aprilia SXV and its been in the shop morn then its been on the road.knock on wood...
to make them faster in the track you actually got to make em slower , they are too agresive on stock form heavy flywheel and tall gearing do the trick.
not all aprilia mate. its just the Sxv 550 and thats because these bikes are extremely higly tuned from factory.
There aint no other v2`s in the endur/mx/supermoto category.
The Husaberg seemed more powerfull because it has Low-mid torque, the my CR250 and the CR500 are made to have the mid to high rpm torque. And from the video, the track seems like it has no zone where you can wide open!
Qual foi o vosso melhor tempo em pista e de que mota?
Very nice driving :D but why do you shift on low rpm is it becouse its a 2 stroke ?
2 stroke stil dominates
O pessoal tem que se mentalizar que se querem uma 500 2T a fazer a rotação de uma 125 mas com mais de 100 cavalos, tem que andar numa Yamaha RD 500 V4 ou numa Suzuki RG 500 Gamma
My idea.
If the Aprilia was behind me all the time, would make sense to put the camera pointing to the front ... ? Don't think so
nothing beats the 500 in the fun department those things are nasty ,when they hit the power band you feel how nasty they are videos dont do it justice because you gotta ride it to experience it because on videos you hear it on low revs but when you are on it you feel the speed.
Thats not really true.Find a good mechanic to take care of it and you wont have any issues.My 2006 sxv has more than 25.000 kilometres on the clock and had only electrical issues..Forgot to mention that its tuned to 77 hp on the wheel. The best bike by miles far i have ever had in my life
i give my kidney for one of those :D
Hey, cool video. How would you compare the bikes (both CR and SXV) to a FS570 if you have riden one?
+Andrew G If you check out my HUSABERG FS 650e videos, you'll see some on this track " against " this CR 500AF. I've rode both and honestly my previous Husaberg 650 seemed more powerful than the CR 500. Of course the CR500 can be tuned for a lot more power
Nice onboard bideo
Man... I would sell my left ball to have your cr ahahah:) I own a brand-new honda cbr 500r, but it's not the same thing eheh...
Greetings from an Italian biker:)
You did great for it not being yours. Kudos.
cr 500 r beast i have a 1991 cr 500, with dirt tire, i drive it sometime in my neighborhood but cops come 5 min after lol
i love the way you aweser coments lol you dont freak out
omg that bike is my dream!
I Spy a Husaberg at 0:14. looks just like my old fc501
Great video but use your disc brakes not your engine brake ! This is 2t not 4T ! :D
becouse the front will lift its a 2 stroke hell of alot of power will wheely in every gear all the way up any 500cc 2 stroke is a beasst snm
Y do u AF in quotes on the bottom right of the screen?
This is a CRF 450 frame transformation using CR 500 engine, not a real AF bike.
It's an homemade replica.
Oh. That's pretty cool!
What does AF even mean? Lol
acdcjonnyboy Aluminium Frame
Ahhhh right, cheers!
Is the honda cr 500 a 2 stroke bike?
Yes isn't it obvious
matteo luchini no a 3 stroke
Dyno graphs to proof the 110hp and 91nm!! :-)
VS??????
Amazing nm ratio
I've owned 7 cr 500 and he is not riding this hard at all, they rev much harder then that
and he is almost coming to a stop on every corner, anyone who can ride one properly can tell just by listening to it, you can reply and tell me i'm full of shit, but you know you was putting it around
Dat sound
How about you actually hit the power band man! Your Chang gears at 50 percent
yeah man thats true to open it like u said but this guys doesnt do it
what a wild cat! would trade my wife for dat shit
lean more and use the rest of your powerband
Who's genious idea was it to mount the fucking camera rear facing?
That Sound *_*
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IMO that CR5 rider is shifting to much.
ehe fair play :)
FUCK THIS SOUND
Lol. Ill cry on your shoulder but watch out cause your tight ass may be in pain for a long time.
2 strokes rev really high, if you get a CR 125 or 85 they will easily do 11,000rpm revs, whereas the peak power on a CR 500 is around 6500rpm. They don't really rev much higher.
Why isn't the 550 whooping the cr 500??... oh yeah shit rider!
bikerboi1983 you're kdding right? 550 is a 4 stroke the displacement from the cr500 2 stroke is probably about twice that of the 550 4 stroke along with the fact the cr500 is quite a bit lighter....
bikerboi1983 you're kdding right? 550 is a 4 stroke the displacement from the cr500 2 stroke is probably about twice that of the 550 4 stroke along with the fact the cr500 is quite a bit lighter....
+Alexandre Haussmann
the aprilia actually has a fair bit more power, and the weight is near identical, with proper tuning, and a exhaust on each the aprilia is still faster in both acceleration, and top speed.
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Yeah ill grow up one day but i wont follow your sick habits. Beeing a pervert is not in my future plans.haha ..
HAHAHA it pissed it on one straight.. CR500 owns anything on supermoto track!
Better rider. An SXV will eat a CR500 in a straight line.
The SXV is not a moto made for circuit
The cr500 entered the circuit way before the SXV, it was already ahead before the SXV entered
@@glenscholz1329 shut the fuck up, you idiots don't know nothing.. this video clearly proves my point.. and to say that other pos will beat it 🤣 half throttle the CR past it dumb azzes 🤣
@@estebanod so what's the point your trying to make.. 🤷♂️ soon as the CR got half throttle I couldn't remember if a second bike was on track! 🤣
Point your camera in the right direction next time :-)
Lol who talked shit about aprilia? I've got a sr50 water cooled 50cc 2 stroke scooter with 16k miles on original top end lolololll
4-stroke timing...
it is a 500cc 2-stroke, it does not even take high RPMs so it sounds like he is shifting too ''early'' this bike has torque
Whaoo 1500 trs/min....
Its lies. Im the proof.You are not.Thats fact too.
Haha a 500 2 stroke is fast
great movie ruined by adds
O M F G
2t won.
I got an Aprilia 125 mx 2stroke. Engine is oke. But frame and others parts are crap. Im never buy an Aprilia again
parece que nao faz rotaçao nenhuma :S
Where's the smoke?
Always use clutch on 2 stroke bike when you dont give any gas. ALWAYS clutch. This guy can't drive properly on 2 stroker :D