LHD Trieste - In-depth look
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- Hi everybody,
Today we will take an in-depth look at the new Italian Trieste LHD.
The Trieste is the new flattop ship for the Italian Navy that will take the place of the older Giuseppe Garibaldi.
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I think the Italian Navy through Fincantieri has an interesting and balanced Warship Building Programme.
Likely the most powerful navy in Europe right now, at least as far as surface fleets go
@@marcofava I don't think we can match out the British or the French. We need at least one more Cavour and one more Trieste. 🤔
Bellisima nave. Sono contento di averla vista costruire dal vivo!😍
Sei contento che abbiano costruito un arsenale per decimare le popolazioni, idiota babbeo
Great looking ship. Congratulations Italy she will be beautiful asset to the Italian Navy..
I love the italian strong accent in this video. It fits awesomely.
mhm I don't think he sounds italian. more like french
It's not an italian accent dude
@@BlackHeart_CZcams_Channel But I hear lots of Italians with this kind of accent.
Ah Jimmy dont be a muppet. Wasnt a bad video👍
@@gioq4702 It sounds very much Italian to me, actually northern Italian, like me. Now after some traveling around the world I find myself really in pain when my people pronounce "ship" like "sheep", but it is what it is. I'm afraid we have too many 45yo+ high school english teachers who got decent grammar but also very poor training in pronounciation. Hopefully this will change with YT and social networks globalised.
Fantastic video as always!!!
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Yeah man!
I love the Italy!🤔
The ship was launched today!
Yess!
Would love to see the RN get a couple of ships like this! Looks a good design and will be very versatile.
Trevor Shepherd looks like our hms Queen Elizabeth😂
@@benhambling2981 it's the same model
@@jacopo69 + It's an LHD, the OE is a Strike Carrier, totally different class of ship.
Great carrier,
From Philippines,
We hope maybe we buy some maestrele frigate
More of these ships will be available in a few months because it will decommissioned
Excellent warship!
Sono andato a vedere il varo saluti da Firenze
Very interesting
I have a question. Does that mean it will replace Cavour as the flagship of the Italian Navy?
No, this will be the Flag Ship of the Italian navy when the Cavour won’t be available, while it will be permanently the Flagship of the amphibious forces
Huge Italian Job
It just recently got launched
I just made a video about the topic, be sure to check it out
Launch of the LHD Trieste - the biggest Italian military ship since WW2
czcams.com/video/1tMb58_8uzw/video.html
That's impressive design, but one question: Is there any advantages to the two island concept on their ships?
Theoretically you gain a parking spot between the islands, that is always useful to have on any aircraft Carrier design
@@DailyBattlefields were there any intentions for the Ford-class to have this concept?
No, I don’t think so, as far as I read, the only two nations applying this concept are the UK with the Queen Elizabeth class and Italy with the Trieste LHD
@@kempmt1 The Ford class would not need it because it is nuclear powered. The twin island is primarily to handle the two uptakes from the engineering spaces. It has been adapted to as a secondary role to separate flight and ship control stations.
@@cadengrace5466 I was kind of expecting some particular operation capabilities from the two islands over a single one
this vessel fully completed and fully configured as noted will of course cost far more than 1.2B euros, but even if less than 3 Billion euro, it will be a good deal ! Perhaps USMC could arguably acquire a couple hulls even for economical joint-operation purposes ??
The price of 1.2B is for the ship,sensors and self defense armaments, the airwing will have a separate cost
@@DailyBattlefields thanks very much for reply ... please understand my comment of the 'total' cost in question is that sometimes, the publicly quoted costs of European built ships are not exposing the full cost of acquiring a complete ship. Politically sensitive, yes and for cost competitive purposes . Still, this is a very cost-effective ship!
Sure you are right, but unfortunately the only infos we have right now is about the publicly stated cost
Typical prices for sutch a vessel would be around 2.8 and 3.5 billions
@@DailyBattlefields You honestly think governments would lie about how much tax money they spend ? True this is Italy so perhaps more prone to accounting fraud but in most other countries there is strong democratic oversight and accountability on how taxes are spent. Also Italy being part of Euro and in breach of fiscal compact means even greater scrutiny on spending. The figure looks legitimate to me compared to other such vessels like Juan Carlos LHD or Mistral LHD.
not sure if you mentioned it but does it use nuclear power?
@Gio Gio no it doesn’t, as propulsion it uses a CODLOG system (COmbined Diesel and eLectric Or Gas).
If you are looking for other info I would suggest you to take a look at my newer video about the launch of the Trieste
Launch of the LHD Trieste - the biggest Italian military ship since WW2
czcams.com/video/1tMb58_8uzw/video.html
@@DailyBattlefields oh thanks, its just that one of the locals was joking about a nuclear explosion at its inauguration so I speculated.. XD
@@giogio6974 It might carry nuclear weaponry though :o
A smaller in effect LHD but really a carrier for all intents and purposes. Give me this over the giant QE class any day. The QE class are just giant sub targets [especially vls options], they have minimal defensive abilities when benchmarked against the US Nimitz/Ford classes, and also the French carrier. The Spanish get far more bang here, they operate a very slightly lower number of F35s, and can carry marines. The UK's manic need for 'optics' and rule Britannia memories have seen 2 giant ships that are not nuclear powered, also minimising their effectiveness, the appalling government stuffing around combined with the Treasury bean counters, a weak First Sea Lord/Admiralty who've been both unwilling and unable to stand up for what is a disgracefully run down RN, against the RAF and Army has seen the once mighty RN beg borrow and steal.
They cannot still achieve their staffing/crewing targets for both carriers, and given 1 is always in dry dock n various degrees of work only 1 will be operational. The absurd decision not to go with a flat deck was a debacle. In the end it cost more 'not' to adopt the US' design. The time and money wasted is criminal. But now they're build putting them into harms way will stretch the RN like never before. Disbanding an entire air arm even with US training cannot be overcome in a short time even when the carriers are certified FOC.
The Spanish and Italians in my personal view do it so much better. France has a kick arse navy and due to it's colonial imprint still especially in Africa France is the major power the US looks to for assistance with terrorism operations in theatre, the French expeditionary forces, and their special operation forces are first class, have real, genuine modern kit, and like the USMC Expeditionary Force the French can deploy quickly.
That the Royal Marines were even 'considered' as a budget cut/disbanding is another example of Whitehall's total disrespect for the armed forces. It is a disgrace what the young men and women of the UK's armed forces and navy haver been put through.
Sure the Type 26 continuos build cycle with RAN and Canada, and maybe NZ participating has finally given BAE/UK and the RN an excellent chance to really have some certainty, and room for solidifying what is a badly broken service. Once again the Spanish and Italians opt for slightly smaller ships, but the end product is a force projection capability that is arguably far more flexible and does not put all their eggs in a giant 2 [1 really FOC] giant carrier.
A point of view that people can or cannot agree with, just one correction, this is an Italian built LHD for the Italian navy, Spain doesn’t and won’t operate F-35B (until January 2020 there was no information about a possible F-35 deal between Spain and the US)
i agree on everything but we italians have the best special forces who are at the same levl of SAS, SBS and Delta Force but also french sf are good. our sf in Afghanistan were used a lot by USA and operated in secret missions with SEALs (who still come here in Italy to train) and SAS. ;)
Questa e una tua opinione , basata su obbiettivi a cui l.Italia non e interessata . Assurdo fare portaerei per megalomania ..l.Italia vanta ottime navi , inoltre connl arrivo delle nuove ppa che sono paragonabili a una fregata ( specie nella versione full ) così continua a rinforzare come potenza regionale . Le portaerei costano cifre impressionanti , la Francia possiede una carobar nucleare che però essendo una e anche vecchiotta spesso ha necessità di lunghi Stop . L F 35 seppur caro non e ' il peggior caccia anzi . Inoltre ti ricordo che per via della seconda guerra mondiale non possiamo avere vere e proprie portaerei . In ogni caso c e ben poco da fare ci sono solo due paesi in questo momento capaci di avere portaerei sempre proiettabili e sono gli Usa e la Cina che ne sta costruendo ancora tre oltre alle quattro di cui tre già finite .
@giuseppebattagliese6424
I think it can be renew as aircraft carrier
Secondo te il nuovo governo sblocchera' l'acquisto di tutti gli f-35, che era stato bloccato da quello precedente?
Lo spero, ma purtroppo non so proprio risponderti
Ok grazie comunque. Avrei anche un altra domanda: a quanto ho capito oggi le navi da guerra hanno a disposizione generalmente 8 missili anti nave, ma considerando tutte le contromisure e armamenti anti missile e antiaerei, di cui dispongono le navi, non sono un po' pochi? E in caso in cui tra due squadre navali che si affrontano(senza aerei da entrambe le parti, ma solo navi come cacciatorpediniere,fregate e simili), entrambe finiscono glj anyinave, si avvicinano per attaccare con i cannoni o/e siluri, o si possono usare anche i missili antiaerei per attaccare le navi in caso di necessita'?
Al 100% non so darti una risposta, perché nessuno dei moderni missili anti nave è stato usato in contesti reali di guerra (che è molto diverso rispetto ai test effettuati durante la creazione di un sistema d’arma)
Io sono un po’ dell’opinione contraria, cioè ci sono troppe poche armi difensive per proteggere le navi dai missili, perché jammer chaff e flare non sempre funzionano sopratutto su missili moderni come i nuovi Marte o Otomat, l’artiglieria difensiva a corto raggio anche sta perdendo le sue capacità in quanto missili moderni molto rapidi, anche una dopo essere stati colpiti, ritengono molta forza cinetica, quindi i detriti rimasti, potrebbero comunque colpire e affondare/danneggiare di molto la nave, sopratutto se si parla di missili hypersonici come il Kinzhal russo.
Per quanto riguarda le seconda domanda, dipende, se entrambe le flotte sono sicure al 100% che l’avversario ha finito gli anti-nave, potrebbero rischiare di avvicinarsi e fare a cannonate o addirittura ad usare i siluri.
Però nel caso più realistico, una volta che una ipotetica flotta italiana abbia finito tutti gli Otomat e tutti i Milas, probabilmente rientrerebbe alla base per rifornirsi o chiederebbe appoggio ad una flotta alleate se disponibile.
Come si è visto nella seconda guerra mondiale, il popolo italiano è molto sensibile alla perdita di assetti della marina, sopratutto se di superficie, quindi credo difficile che si andrebbe a fare a cannonate.
Grazie mille per la risposta ;), e per quanto riguarda i missili antiaerei, in uno scenario di scarsita' di antinave e' possibile convertirli in antinave?
Ohhh si scusa, mi ero dimenticato di quella parte della domanda, alcuni missili si, non tutti, però la loro capacità è molto minore, devi calcolare che i missili anti nave volano al pelo dell’acqua, quindi sono molto difficili da colpire, mentre quelli di tipo antiaerei avranno sempre una traiettoria più simile ad una parabolica per colpire un bersaglio in mare, quindi tenderanno ad essere intercettati più facilmente
Spesso e volentieri però i missili anti aerei che ne sono capaci non sono segnati come tali, quindi non saprei darti una lista dei modelli
Ace combat 0 soundtrack: hangar
If I recall correctly it should be:
Intro/Outro: Ace Combat 5 Brifieng 2
Patreon: Ace Combat 4 Briefing
Main video: Ace Combat 5 Briefing 1
@@DailyBattlefields i was sure it was ace combat 0. But anyway, always great soundrtrack
Che n sarà della portaerei Garibaldi quando questa verrà terminata?
Esattamente non si sa, potrebbe essere smantellata, venduta al prezzo del ferro oppure usata per farci un museo.
@@DailyBattlefields dicono anche che potrebbe essere usata come stazione per lanciare i nostri Vega C.
Smantellata !
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ULTIME NOTIZIE... SEMBREREBBE CHE NEL NUOVO PIANO NAVALE PER LA MARINA MILITARE CI SIA ANCHE UNA NAVE OSPEDALE ... Sembrerebbe che ci sia già l'accordo con fincantieri
F35b in her future???
bigone1ism
Of course, Italy is the only country along with Israel outside of the US to build it’s own F-35 fighter jets in the Alenia Aerospace plant in Cameri close to Torino (Piemonte).
Cosa? Una persona italiana che conosce ace combat?
Ehhhh esatto, impressionante eh? XD
@@DailyBattlefields assolutamente 😁
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Viva italia 🇮🇹🌍😁👍🏅🏆.. Viva f35b🌎🌎🏆🎖️🥇🏅
you mean "FLAGSHIP" not flattop sir
Nope, flattop means that has a flat part on top of the ship that can be used as a runway for aircrafts to land on
@@DailyBattlefields thanks for that will live and learn something new and liked and subbed
Thanks a lot
Joan Baez
Ma parla come mammeta t'ha fatto!