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  • Joel Embiid only played 11 minutes in Team USA’s victory over Serbia, scoring 4 points. Colin Cowherd compares Embiid’s performance with Nikola Jokic and says that Embiid is the most overrated and overhyped player in the NBA. Plus, he discusses Jayson Tatum not participating against Serbia.
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  • @TheHerdOnFS1
    @TheHerdOnFS1  Před měsícem +16

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    • @davidramos4317
      @davidramos4317 Před měsícem

      This was Embidds funeral

    • @krobinson8627
      @krobinson8627 Před měsícem

      I agree with Colin sometimes and sometimes I disagree but this was the worst take ever. If I am not mistaken, Serbia lost. Jokic can play his game for Serbia. Embiid is not use to this Lebron system they are running. Embiid is missing shots he makes all day long; hence, why he has been the leading scorer for the past 3 years. The whole USA team is centered around Lebron so that he shines because he is forever chasing MJ for the GOAT status but it won't happen. What they are running is not Embiid's game and they also better hope it wins them the gold. They didn't even play Tatum and they left Brown off the roster because this is all about Lebron. It is for Lebron, Steph and KD to look good. I guess for their last time.

    • @gokublaclivesmatter2766
      @gokublaclivesmatter2766 Před měsícem

      PERFECT ANALYSIS OF JASON TATUM I SAID THIS YEARS AGO

  • @kylemckinzie1678
    @kylemckinzie1678 Před měsícem +64

    I know Serbia lost, but it's kind of insane that jokic is worth so much that Serbia was even with team usa with him out there

    • @benitofranklyn4237
      @benitofranklyn4237 Před měsícem +1

      Well he is the MVP, which literally means Most Valuable Player😂

  • @dwoodstwin
    @dwoodstwin Před měsícem +106

    Joel is skilled but damn that dude stays falling on the floor. He goes down 2-3 times every quarter

    • @blazingblazers14
      @blazingblazers14 Před měsícem +15

      More like flops

    • @bsmith437
      @bsmith437 Před měsícem +6

      He falls on purpose to protect his feet and knees. How to people not know this by now. If you say he’s injured all the time imagine if he didn’t take precautionary measures.

    • @cc.m.1149
      @cc.m.1149 Před měsícem +8

      Or he gets hurt by falling constantly and being gigantic. Also getting himself off the ground all the time is bad for the knees.

    • @pfpchad2747
      @pfpchad2747 Před měsícem +9

      @@bsmith437 Maybe if he didn't fall so often, he wouldn't stay injured. 🤔

    • @Csuarezftw
      @Csuarezftw Před měsícem

      @@bsmith437 Lol there is no way you're not trolling.

  • @dillonkirk9868
    @dillonkirk9868 Před měsícem +371

    Ben Simmons was supposed to be the next LeBron according to Colin

    • @kevin__foley
      @kevin__foley Před měsícem +15

      Swing and a miss 😅😅😅😅

    • @mikemarc92
      @mikemarc92 Před měsícem +56

      Yeah but to be fair who could have predicted that crazy downfall

    • @roberthall1818
      @roberthall1818 Před měsícem +4

      Lack of work ethic to work on his game high iq

    • @mansionman717
      @mansionman717 Před měsícem +23

      Simmons did look like the next great point-forward for a while. Then he hurt his back and mentally checked out. The talent analysis was correct, but it's impossible to predict injuries and mental breakdowns.

    • @FrankNitty-kz8dx
      @FrankNitty-kz8dx Před měsícem

      Tell me about ..🙄

  • @Chalk0073
    @Chalk0073 Před měsícem +45

    I think the biggest stat from yesterday was Serbia was minus 26 in the 9 minutes Jokic didn't play. With him on the floor, Serbia was even with the US.

    • @ig6894
      @ig6894 Před měsícem +4

      Who cares they lost.

    • @mattmmixes
      @mattmmixes Před měsícem

      Serbia needs to find another good hooper

    • @CdotNaoki
      @CdotNaoki Před měsícem +2

      @@ig6894 comparing to how Embiid played, people care otherwise they wouldnt be watching. Embiid was the only player that was minus for the USA.

    • @JCPRuckus
      @JCPRuckus Před měsícem

      ​@@CdotNaoki - And he had the highest +/- in more than one of the exhibition games... One game of +/- means nothing. It's a super noisy stat.

    • @xavierb9061
      @xavierb9061 Před měsícem +1

      Mislead stat..durant came in non jok8c minuted

  • @DrawQuick2014
    @DrawQuick2014 Před měsícem +29

    Remember when people would argue that Harden was better than Kobe and Wade? Then the refs stopped giving Harden every single call he immediately stopped being a top 10 player. I can’t wait for that to happen to embiid

    • @rinsan00
      @rinsan00 Před měsícem +3

      💀he will be useless

    • @user-jd4uz9gw3h
      @user-jd4uz9gw3h Před měsícem

      Idk after this he led the league w
      Assists

  • @benjaminchin7412
    @benjaminchin7412 Před měsícem +181

    Taytum criticism is really starting to get out of hand. You can argue that he’s not top two on the team at any of the attributes Colin mentioned, but he’s upper half at all of them and probably one of the most well rounded players on the team

    • @nydibs
      @nydibs Před měsícem +27

      Yeah, the Tatum hate is unreal

    • @DaNewWaveLee
      @DaNewWaveLee Před měsícem +11

      Will he go out there and guard speedy players like how Holiday and White do every night tho. There’s a difference of what you could be good at vs what someone is a professional at doing specifically.

    • @kefkapalazzo1
      @kefkapalazzo1 Před měsícem +4

      Love how you ignored all the criticism that immediately preceded it 💪

    • @Timely864
      @Timely864 Před měsícem +12

      @@nydibsZero Dog in Tatum

    • @CBrown
      @CBrown Před měsícem +7

      I think the problem with Tatum is that because it's "his team" and for some insane reason has had a push for being the face of the league he's looked at the same way we look truly great players like Kobe, Iverson, LeBron, or Steph when he's really on that next tier down with guys like Klay, Carmelo, or Jaylen Brown. No matter how good we recognize that they are at what they are good at, there's degrees of separation between them and the true legends. Tatum just isn't on that level and when debated against the opinions that he is, any criticism comes off as hate. If Jrue Holiday doesn't get any minutes nobody cares. We understand. But Tatum doesn't and it's a topic. It wouldn't be a topic if he were as old Steph, LeBron, or KD but he's not. He's just a guy.

  • @Neotidus
    @Neotidus Před měsícem +11

    Team USA doesn’t need Embiid on the team. He’s just snagging a gold that he doesn’t deserve

    • @jrjoseph9213
      @jrjoseph9213 Před měsícem +6

      He should have played for Cameroon but he betrayed his own country

    • @robglobal1
      @robglobal1 Před měsícem +1

      You can say the same for Lebron

    • @LAMARViCK
      @LAMARViCK Před měsícem

      Cry

  • @tomtalley2192
    @tomtalley2192 Před měsícem +51

    Embid is ball dominant. Ain't gonna happen in the Olympics.

    • @philabul
      @philabul Před měsícem +1

      exactly...

    • @Zemlja_je_ravna
      @Zemlja_je_ravna Před měsícem +1

      Flop dominant

    • @philabul
      @philabul Před měsícem

      @@Zemlja_je_ravna they in Europe...world hub for flopping

  • @SojiRo23
    @SojiRo23 Před měsícem +178

    Let’s not act like Embid didn’t have a legit MVP season. We can criticize the guy without lying about him.

    • @curtiszyr
      @curtiszyr Před měsícem +31

      I hate the media more than I dislike Embiid . He deserved his mvp and I’m not a fan at all , could jokic have won it ? Yes so could many other runner up in mvp race history

    • @one50dtboogie48
      @one50dtboogie48 Před měsícem +32

      @@curtiszyr embid didn’t deserve that mvp in fact there was no debate who was better kp went on tv and made it a racial thing that’s the only reason embid won

    • @shawna7813
      @shawna7813 Před měsícem +5

      Based on the regular season he had, he deserved it. Problem is he didn't demonstrate it in the playoffs...

    • @bluemori2822
      @bluemori2822 Před měsícem +16

      He had an MVP caliber season but Jokic was still better and deserved it over him

    • @SuperBlakkman
      @SuperBlakkman Před měsícem +4

      Colin just has garbage af takes most times anyway

  • @mikem4481
    @mikem4481 Před měsícem +18

    Colin Cowherd is the most overhyped sports analyst on TV

  • @samf5321
    @samf5321 Před měsícem +58

    Embiid is 6-2 against Jokic with a better ppg and rpg avg. He dropped 41 on Jokic in their last meeting.

    • @ituoiocchisudeme6606
      @ituoiocchisudeme6606 Před měsícem +20

      Yet he stinks in the playoffs and Jokic becomes better🤷🏻‍♂️ not to mention Embiid plays dirty and always foul baits

    • @b2284
      @b2284 Před měsícem +2

      @@ituoiocchisudeme6606 Joel is never healthy by the time they get to the playoffs, its as simple as that. Even if he is "back" his stamia is not what it is mid season when he is healthy. This past season he told the team even, that he was not able to go into the 4th quarter, but they couldnt take him out because his +/- was insane when he was off hte floor the 76ers got destroyed vs the Knicks

    • @dpackerman4203
      @dpackerman4203 Před měsícem +24

      That record would be worse if Embiid would actually play the games in Denver

    • @JDay-j8z
      @JDay-j8z Před měsícem +2

      ​@@ituoiocchisudeme6606jokic plays dirty and gets away with it

    • @ituoiocchisudeme6606
      @ituoiocchisudeme6606 Před měsícem +3

      @@JDay-j8z I watched every Denver game these playoffs and that’s such a lie😂

  • @otislamar8613
    @otislamar8613 Před měsícem +44

    The media stay trying to break up the Celtics

    • @OscarUnrated
      @OscarUnrated Před měsícem +1

      When did he say Tatum should leave the Celtics

    • @cc.m.1149
      @cc.m.1149 Před měsícem +2

      May of last year on his show.

  • @KJoutdoors-j4x
    @KJoutdoors-j4x Před měsícem +22

    Joel Embid is the big man version of James Harden.

    • @TheMilapMehta
      @TheMilapMehta Před měsícem +2

      That's an insult to Harden. Harden's made multiple conference finals and an NBA finals.

    • @OwenHooper-mv4fm
      @OwenHooper-mv4fm Před měsícem +1

      I think it’s a decent comp. They both can’t really elevate teammates or step up when it matters.

  • @SojiRo23
    @SojiRo23 Před měsícem +12

    Tatum isn’t a dog, but there’s no excuse for him getting DNP in a blowout win. No way, man.

    • @jslayer45
      @jslayer45 Před měsícem

      Thought winning a ring would end this Tatum “doesn’t have the god” in him narrative……. lol does he have to win mvp too or something? Tf

    • @Christian-eq6pq
      @Christian-eq6pq Před měsícem

      @@jslayer45I thought dropping the most points in a game 7 last year and doing what he did in an elimination Game 6 after struggling the first 42 minutes would shut that up. Then I thought his Championshiop clinching performance would. It’s never going to happen, it’s ok though

    • @dominickgalinis3210
      @dominickgalinis3210 Před měsícem

      He literally lead his team in the playoffs in shot attempts……

  • @michealolivieri8233
    @michealolivieri8233 Před měsícem +8

    The bouncing Kahwi shot change alot of what we say with Embid and KD’S toes on the 3 point like changed a lot of what we say about them.

  • @nicholaseaster58
    @nicholaseaster58 Před měsícem +5

    Colin has a point. The Celtics Top 5 are by far the best in the NBA and perfectly compliment each other. Brad Stevens built the perfect roster except for KP is made of glass. JT is the best player though

  • @drpestwick1
    @drpestwick1 Před měsícem +78

    So, Tyrese Haliburton wasn't played either...it's one game. Man, you guys always have something to say about JT, jeez.

    • @littleguyjoe22
      @littleguyjoe22 Před měsícem +31

      Nobody claims Tyrese is a top 5 player.

    • @beazy3364
      @beazy3364 Před měsícem +5

      ​ @littleguyjoe22 nobody says JT is top 5. Hes hated for no reason.

    • @ericktalbot857
      @ericktalbot857 Před měsícem +2

      Yeah because he just won a final so why shouldnt he be starting says a lot about team usa

    • @anshkaushik7920
      @anshkaushik7920 Před měsícem +2

      @@littleguyjoe22 tyrese made 3 first team all nba?

    • @ngkky
      @ngkky Před měsícem +1

      Haliburton is their worst player.

  • @Endless_Cola
    @Endless_Cola Před měsícem +5

    So the media created a Tatum is top 5 narrative and then has spent all the time since trying to tear it down

    • @joel8692
      @joel8692 Před měsícem

      Cowherd and every other TV show just says things for content and to get people talking about it. They literally say something about a player and a few days later flip it to the exact opposite without any explanation. I can't believe people still don't get this

  • @Faz542
    @Faz542 Před měsícem +4

    Did this guy just put Derick white among the shooters? Stop talking 😂😂😂 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @ajanigreenlee1574
      @ajanigreenlee1574 Před měsícem

      White is a good shooter what are you talking about?? lol

  • @DP-8964
    @DP-8964 Před měsícem +17

    Joel Embiid was a joke yesterday! He was one of the reason that the US started so slowly.

    • @phillipschuman4307
      @phillipschuman4307 Před měsícem +2

      He was -20 at some point. He was playing when they went down early, and then when he came back, the lead USA had shrank to mid-single digits. His minutes were VERY bad for the team.

  • @1310libra
    @1310libra Před měsícem +63

    Embiid cried for his MVP and finally won it. Fact of the matter is that he barely shows up in the playoffs and is always injured. Hes 30 now and I doubt he’s going to be any healthier than before. I’d give it a year or two before his contract becomes one of the worst in the league.
    Paired with “Playoff P” it’s fairly obvious what’ll happen in the playoffs this year. Both will either be injured, ramping up or underperforming.

    • @SkiLILs
      @SkiLILs Před měsícem

      What it is Philly doing

    • @BeadyB85
      @BeadyB85 Před měsícem

      Tatum top 10 player na 😂

    • @humaamsaid3282
      @humaamsaid3282 Před měsícem +2

      Writing fanfic and getting in your feelings. This is sad 😂

    • @garycollier6950
      @garycollier6950 Před měsícem

      Embiid might actually be 35 years old. Africans and Dominicans always lie about their age. I heard rumors that Olajuwon was 5 years older than his listed age.

    • @SojiRo23
      @SojiRo23 Před měsícem

      He definitely cried but let’s also not act like he didn’t have a legit MVP season.

  • @corey2232
    @corey2232 Před měsícem +45

    The refs keep Embiid relevant. It's insane the calls he gets.
    FIBA refs don't have that same obligation.

    • @ig6894
      @ig6894 Před měsícem +2

      Jokic gets more calls, and no calls from refs than anybody else. Jokic can go through you , push out of the way, no calls. When it comes to refs in NBA, Jokic is the king of refs favoritism.

    • @logicalbrother
      @logicalbrother Před měsícem +7

      ​​@@ig6894I'm not a Joker fan but he only get 5 or 6 ft a game while Embiid averages 11 ft per game

    • @Musso88
      @Musso88 Před měsícem +5

      Ya Embiid gets way more free throws and ridiculous calls than Jokic. That's just a fact. Embiid and Sga are sickening to watch due to how dependent they.are.on getting calls.

    • @TheRealBozz
      @TheRealBozz Před měsícem

      @ig6894 I bet if you watched Shaq play you would start crying.

    • @angjr999
      @angjr999 Před měsícem +2

      This is stupid, he scores 25 ppg without free throws and has scored 50+ without the free throws being accounted for

  • @curtiszyr
    @curtiszyr Před měsícem +6

    This is quite unfair . Jokic still the focal point of offense for Serbia just like on the nuggets . It’s different for embiid on team USA and also I don’t think he is acclimated to fiba play like jokic and other players have been. Embiid is not even my top 5 favorite player but damn the media is shredding him for nothing

  • @that_celtics_fan
    @that_celtics_fan Před měsícem +26

    I love how the coach doesnt play jayson tatum and that means tatum isnt good. Great take colin.

    • @jerrywilliams120
      @jerrywilliams120 Před měsícem +3

      He never said he wasn’t good imo he said wasn’t top 5 and I agree he’s playing behind bron and kd what does he do better then either one of them plus they were hot JT is great but let’s be real team USA can win the medal with or without him

    • @delg1211
      @delg1211 Před měsícem +2

      Hmm, well... coaches tend to play good players 🤔

    • @thegreat1885
      @thegreat1885 Před měsícem

      @@delg1211that’s not true look at Darvin Ham

  • @mjitalia7249
    @mjitalia7249 Před měsícem +15

    Colin is a pure Tatum hater. Tatum already has a Gold medal with KD. Good lord..

    • @Ctrstr
      @Ctrstr Před měsícem +1

      He was also leading the Jokic hate train pre 23’ finals

  • @georgekenkelen3447
    @georgekenkelen3447 Před měsícem +2

    What’s this guy talking about? Tatum in an NBA Champion and he’s talking about Marcus Smart! LOL What a tool! Embiid is overrated, but yet he won multiple scoring titles! This dude is clueless.

  • @1026779
    @1026779 Před měsícem +44

    The fact that he was all NBA first team won the championship and lead his team in points and other categories throughout the playoffs and you're calling this man lesser than what he is I swear the hate for Jason Tatum has gone out of control

    • @logicalbrother
      @logicalbrother Před měsícem

      OK now look at Tatum low shooting percentages... especially in the playoffs. Embiid was correct... Tatum can go 5 for 19 and Celtics still win

    • @1026779
      @1026779 Před měsícem +3

      @@logicalbrother look at his play making ability or we just look for catch and shoot players now. Look at his assist numbers and rebounds. Look at his defence. But we're here just looking at shooting percentages.

    • @805fillmore
      @805fillmore Před měsícem

      @@1026779 Tatum isn’t more than average at passing. Austin Reaves is a better passer.

    • @1026779
      @1026779 Před měsícem +2

      @@805fillmore lol nice rage bait 🪤

    • @gavriilnick4225
      @gavriilnick4225 Před měsícem

      he is not a superstar....we got to face it....his shooting was awful this tear in the playoffs....he needs 5 all stars to win a chip....on his own he is a choker!

  • @Sean.Cordes
    @Sean.Cordes Před měsícem +1

    The only two players in his ENTIRE CAREER who have a negative net rating when paired with Jokic: Emmanuel Mudiay and Facundo Campazzo. That's it. Every single other player he has ever played with has had a positive net rating paired with him.

  • @krisloveart
    @krisloveart Před měsícem +4

    Colin sayin Michael didn’t elevate players when that group of scrubs he won with are considered “all time teams” cause of him, with players like Kerr having legendary shots because of MJ is why his basketball takes be just utter trash.

    • @joel8692
      @joel8692 Před měsícem

      Jordan definitely made people players better around him but the bulls were definitely an all time great team and one of the best defensive teams ever because they had 3 of the best defenders ever Jordan, pippen, rodman. MJ and rodman won DPOY Awards and pippen should of won at least 2 times .

  • @benitofranklyn4237
    @benitofranklyn4237 Před měsícem +1

    Points avg. after 4 games:
    Edwards 16.8
    Durant 14.8
    James 13.8
    Booker 12.3
    Embiid 11.0
    Holiday 9.7
    AD 9.5
    Bam 8.5
    Curry 7.3
    Tatum 6.3
    Tatum is barely top ten, as everybody with any basketball knowledge predicted. Stop listening to mainstream media and the NBA, they're usually lying to you.

  • @Allenblack6556
    @Allenblack6556 Před měsícem +10

    “I feel bad for him”😂 That’s ok Colin, Tatum doesn’t need your support or recognition. He’s a champion. He wins, and he’s the opposite of everything you claim him to be. Your Tatum takes are the worst takes I’ve ever heard in my life. Just an unbearable listen.

  • @Jrcobi12
    @Jrcobi12 Před měsícem +1

    Thank you Colin for finally being the one to say this about Embiid.

  • @Steve-v6w
    @Steve-v6w Před měsícem +28

    Tatum “isn’t top 5” yet has been All NBA First team 3 times. “You saw this in the ECF, and Finals,”yet he led his team in PTS, RBS, and AST in both of those series on route to a championship. LOL. What a lazy take.

    • @michaelvasquez2726
      @michaelvasquez2726 Před měsícem +3

      Because of positions. Make your list, he’s not top 5. He’s 10/12 at worst but def not top 5
      Joker
      Greek Freak
      SGA
      AD
      Ant
      Luka
      Wemby
      Curry
      Joel
      KD
      Book
      JB
      JT
      I’m sure I’m missing some guys too but off the top of my head

    • @anshkaushik7920
      @anshkaushik7920 Před měsícem +1

      @@michaelvasquez2726 Id take him over everyone excpet jokic giannis luka, hes in same tier as SGA and Embiid imo maybe lebron and kd in that tier too. Also if u think JB > JT then u think iggy > steph and maxwell > larry bird

    • @hksel
      @hksel Před měsícem

      who votes for that garbage ? right.

    • @Steve-v6w
      @Steve-v6w Před měsícem +3

      @@michaelvasquez2726 All NBA is position-less, so that argument is invalid.

    • @samf5321
      @samf5321 Před měsícem +1

      Jayson Tatum is not top 5.
      He literally said Tatum is probably top 10, how is him not being top 5 an overstatement. Anyone who watched the Finals knows D White, Brown, and Holiday were far more efficient on Offensive and Defense. Tatum did rebound and pass better to make up for his struggles.

  • @mikekillagreen9432
    @mikekillagreen9432 Před měsícem +1

    Embiid has really only had two healthy playoff runs and Simmons choked one away

  • @jamalsag7812
    @jamalsag7812 Před měsícem +6

    I'm sorry, Bron DOES NOT have the 'rip your heart out' gene...

  • @rquirozsoto
    @rquirozsoto Před měsícem +1

    My dream rotation would be:
    G: Curry², Booker²
    G: Holiday^, White^
    F: James*, Edwards¹
    F: Durant¹, Tatum*
    C: Davis, Adebayo
    *: running the offense
    ¹,²: scoring options
    ^: point of attack defender

  • @ig6894
    @ig6894 Před měsícem +37

    Let get this straight, the USA basket association begged Embiid to play for the USA. One game later, you guys are calling him out. Serbia team is built around Jokic, just like the sixers game is built around Embiid, so stop the nonsense.

    • @sammastersful
      @sammastersful Před měsícem +5

      That's what I'm saying. FIBA is just different. aLSO , lEBRON HAS THE BALL I HIS HANDS, so he dictates what is going on offensive. All sixers fans understand that in order to beat the DDenver Nuggets , you must make Jokic work on both ends of the floor. Well in the last three games in Philly , Joel dominates that guy. So for Colin to say " it's not even close after yesterday " is wild but I understand Colin is not a real basketball. guy.

    • @Chupapiyayaya
      @Chupapiyayaya Před měsícem +12

      @@sammastersfulEmbiid is a bum buddy it’s fine to admit

    • @toolegit7668
      @toolegit7668 Před měsícem +4

      Embiid is not as good a fit on this team AD and Bam who have more of a defensive mindset are better fits. Joelle is defensive minded too but he expects the ball way more on offense and that's just not gonna happen with Bron KD Curry Edwards etc

    • @truthseeker-js3zi
      @truthseeker-js3zi Před měsícem

      Embid​ is a bum?so he'snot even a good player?@@Chupapiyayaya

    • @realone296
      @realone296 Před měsícem +2

      Embiid is 21ppg on 49%TS in playoffs elimination games...gets panic attack every time 4th quarter come...never been out of the 2nd round in the Leastern conference...LOL...
      He ain't no superstar when the serious basketball is being played and don't get easy free throws(Fiba and deep playoffs)

  • @samf5321
    @samf5321 Před měsícem +1

    We gonna act like JAmal Murray not an All Star caliber player. Stop this paper stat logic.

  • @victoriuswashington8901
    @victoriuswashington8901 Před měsícem +4

    Calling bro submissive is diabolical behavior 😂

  • @kalebmessina2584
    @kalebmessina2584 Před měsícem +1

    Look at his +\- in the playoffs.. dude can’t take a breather without the 76ers losing the lead

  • @shorafarahani
    @shorafarahani Před měsícem +4

    Ive never thought of it this way... but I can't agree more with Colin here on Tatum is B+ at most in every aspect of the game. He might have overall higher skillset than a lot of other plyers, but there's not a single thing you can pinpoint on Tatum and say he is A/A+ in it.
    (Defense, offense, 3pt, mentality, etc)
    this doesnt take away from the fact he is a very good player

    • @tyriantaylor711
      @tyriantaylor711 Před měsícem

      It’s also a good thing that is good at everything because most players have significant weakness

    • @shorafarahani
      @shorafarahani Před měsícem

      @@tyriantaylor711 that's true - but that matters less when it is a team of STACKED players. you have players who might have deficiencies, but they are A/A+ in 3 other things. so you put that player next to another one who is A+ in the deficiency of the other one.
      e.g. Steph is A+ in shooting, handling, court spread, passing. But is a C at best on defense. That why you bring Drue who is A+ on defense, court spread, game mindset but has deficiencies on scoring etc (He is still a solid B in that regard)

    • @bevelinternational7527
      @bevelinternational7527 Před měsícem

      Man this is silly...
      Tatum has been the best player on a championship level team for years...played meaningful basketball since entering the league.
      Hes swept Durant in recent years.
      Holiday and white are role players on his team
      Hes all nba.
      Been better at devin booker at every point in their careers dating back to grade school.
      He needs to play.

    • @shorafarahani
      @shorafarahani Před měsícem

      @@bevelinternational7527 go watch Tatum in last Olympic games... He was mostly terrible in that team too, and that team had NOONE but KD. I remember he only played ONE good game in which he was a spot up shooter and hit like 4-5 3pointers.

  • @jayg2472
    @jayg2472 Před měsícem +4

    Calling him “submissive at times” is disrespectful af. Does he think he just gives up at the end of games?

    • @UzbekWatermelon
      @UzbekWatermelon Před měsícem +3

      Apparently you don't watch crucial playoff games where Joel shrinks and disappears.

    • @MLBlast40
      @MLBlast40 Před měsícem

      have you literally ever watched a Joel Embiid playoff series?

    • @onomatopoeia5540
      @onomatopoeia5540 Před měsícem

      He always do especialy when he learned basic English words. His interviews felt like were answered by a not so egotistical african😂

  • @shaneflannigan7919
    @shaneflannigan7919 Před měsícem +3

    It’s inexcusable that JT did not receive minutes. Larry Bird made teammates better

    • @064razor
      @064razor Před měsícem

      Larry Bird ain't here.

    • @cc.m.1149
      @cc.m.1149 Před měsícem +1

      Colin said Jokic, Bron and Magic were the ONLY players to make their teammates better….. which false. Bird did as well, that's the point he’s making. There are many more names on that list as well.

    • @shaneflannigan7919
      @shaneflannigan7919 Před měsícem

      @@064razor go back and listen. Clearly you did not

    • @shaneflannigan7919
      @shaneflannigan7919 Před měsícem

      @@cc.m.1149 thanks

  • @samf5321
    @samf5321 Před měsícem +1

    Embiid isn't overhyped, he just needs to find his use. Tatum is being outplayed by D White, who was just added to the team, and Jrue Holiday, who both played better than Tatum in the Finals with the exception of the final games when Boston was up by 20.
    Embiid puts up 40 on Jokic multiple times in the NBA.

  • @RepentorPerish77
    @RepentorPerish77 Před měsícem +9

    I'm a Tatum fan being a Dukie but what Colin is referring to is he lacks that DAWG... AND I agree

    • @brandonsingh5083
      @brandonsingh5083 Před měsícem

      What do you think of Paolo?

    • @RepentorPerish77
      @RepentorPerish77 Před měsícem

      @@brandonsingh5083 I haven’t seen him enough to say but I like what I saw in his first playoff series

  • @will_274
    @will_274 Před měsícem +1

    They are not going to put Jason Tatum in on rubbish minutes. They had the game wrapped up.

  • @shaynelee487
    @shaynelee487 Před měsícem +29

    Embiid is just getting over a serious injury. We can't read too much into his Olympic performance. He has torched The Joker numerous times in head to head battles, and last season he was the best in the league statistically before suffering a season ending injury.

    • @jaymixxofficial
      @jaymixxofficial Před měsícem

      You're speaking facts.

    • @sammastersful
      @sammastersful Před měsícem

      Agreed!!!

    • @skate1030
      @skate1030 Před měsícem +3

      He honestly still looks like he hasn’t completely healed.

    • @natedogg890
      @natedogg890 Před měsícem +1

      So many of his injuries are from flopping and falling on the floor over and over to get fouls. Yeah he's getting over an injury now, when is he not?

    • @CdotNaoki
      @CdotNaoki Před měsícem

      whenis he not getting over a serious injury? This has been a trend since his 2nd year after he lost the ROTY to Brogdon due to injury

  • @benklosowski1209
    @benklosowski1209 Před měsícem +1

    Tatum the most versatile player in the league.. exactly what you need on this team

  • @_allcap
    @_allcap Před měsícem +9

    Man i'm impressed by how bad your takes were today

  • @dr.hiccup573
    @dr.hiccup573 Před měsícem +2

    Why do people in the comments pretend like Ben Simmons wasnt a high level player at one point?

  • @BoskoShabazz
    @BoskoShabazz Před měsícem +11

    The slander that Tatum gets is so insane to me lol smh why do people hate this man? He just hoops and is unproblematic

    • @jaydot4956
      @jaydot4956 Před měsícem +3

      Because he’s an imposter, they push him like he’s a superstar and he’s not.

    • @spirit13the1st6
      @spirit13the1st6 Před měsícem +2

      ​NOT SO.
      I'VE SEEN TATUM TAKE OPPONENTS 8 OUT OF 10 TIMES 1 ON 1.
      UNSTOPPABLE, THIS IS A HUGE MISTAKE ON KERR'S PART.

    • @kristianvelazquez9025
      @kristianvelazquez9025 Před měsícem

      ​@@spirit13the1st6 you know better than a champion coach,lol 🤡

    • @tyriantaylor711
      @tyriantaylor711 Před měsícem +2

      @@jaydot4956He a top 10 players , NBA Champion, 5x Allstar , First Team All NBA which is position-less now , Most points at Age 26 in the playoffs, how he not a superstar

    • @ChrisMoreschi-vw1mz
      @ChrisMoreschi-vw1mz Před měsícem +1

      @@jaydot4956Tatum is gonna punish the league next season……. Watch out Golden State, Tatum is gonna hand Kerr the popcorn while he beats the Warriors by 100

  • @dawsforfun6456
    @dawsforfun6456 Před měsícem +2

    I'm from Philly and I couldn't agree more. He doesn't have it. Embiid amazing on a Tuesday night in January against the Pelicans.

  • @bridgelyferell1350
    @bridgelyferell1350 Před měsícem +3

    Dude really debating with no one😂 just no friends

  • @richardfernandes8234
    @richardfernandes8234 Před měsícem +2

    I agree that Magic, Jokic, and LeBron are 3 of the most effective team helper players in history. But there are others that were equally as lethal.
    These include Bird, Nash, CP3 and Isiah Thomas. All extremely efficient at scoring and getting teammates involved. Nash is the only one without a championship, but he does have 2 MVPs. It is never said and should definitely be noted that in his prime, Nash experienced fixed game calling from refs especially vs the Lakers. The Blazers and Kings also had holes put in their ships by these same refs vs the Lakers.
    Oh... and I think we are forgetting Doncic.

    • @cdublun
      @cdublun Před měsícem

      They all run the Point! This make your team better criticism of shooters/scorers started with Nash and should not be considered the same with players that don't run Point. The media wanted to give him the MVP over Shaq, Kobe, and others. Before Nash, true Points were all floor generals whose job was to make the offense run better, be the 2nd most efficient scorers, emergency, and 2nd or even 3rd scoring options. Next thing you know "everybody" especially the best players, wanted to run the point. Lebron came into the league at Point Forward, and he and position-less basketball took over the league.

  • @mctaguer
    @mctaguer Před měsícem +7

    I think you're exaggerating the Tatum dynamic quite a bit. And frankly, the LAST thing they need is another "A." Why DON'T they need a guy who's B+ at everything? That's exactly what they need.
    Brad got rid of Marcus Smart because he's not nearly a good enough offensive player. He got a BETTER offensive player... but this somehow works better now. Why is that? There's a flaw in this logic. There's a hint of truth to it, but it's not nearly to the level you're saying. Besides, the entire "Alpha" thing is as much mythical as it is fact. If you doubt me, look up the SCIENCE on it.
    Tatum's a VASTLY better player than Haliburton or Booker. And God knows he makes better decisions than Ant. No, Kerr just hasn't figured out how to use him, and it's exacerbated by him playing Embiid and Booker.

  • @JumpOffBiggSean
    @JumpOffBiggSean Před měsícem +2

    I'm sick of sports media it's become a 💩 show. And Colin is leading the herd

  • @pace348
    @pace348 Před měsícem +3

    Finally the world is realizing how overrated Tatum is.

    • @sprdagod8846
      @sprdagod8846 Před měsícem +1

      Jayson Tatum is 339-174 in his career. His first team all NBA 3 years in a row the only person on the Olympic team All-Star MVP All-Star record scoring five time All Star champion let his team in points rebounds and assist for the last 3 years running has the highest Boston Celtics scoring average one of the youngest players ever to 10,000 points and is the all-time leading scorer in the playoffs for any player 26 or under over Kobe Bryant LeBron James Steph Curry and currently tied with the most 50-point games in the last 5 years again tell me how he's overrated or do people just have some reason to try to hate on it

  • @adamarmstrong6152
    @adamarmstrong6152 Před měsícem +2

    Didn't media keep saying Embiid would of beat Robinson Ewing Barkley and Malone

  • @johnjebrowski
    @johnjebrowski Před měsícem +4

    Embiid is clearly hurt/out of shape he's far from overrated

    • @creedstewart2525
      @creedstewart2525 Před měsícem +1

      Always is apparently.

    • @ryanmccart7160
      @ryanmccart7160 Před měsícem +1

      It's been like this his whole career! Sixers need to trade this bum.

    • @onomatopoeia5540
      @onomatopoeia5540 Před měsícem +1

      And clearly still a newbie to winning basketball😂

  • @gilbertnicholas1582
    @gilbertnicholas1582 Před měsícem +2

    I was shocked Tatum wasn't starting over Booker Serbia took the lead early because of the lack of size in the starting lineup

    • @dbzhafan
      @dbzhafan Před měsícem

      Booker is better. Booker's two 3's got them back in. He's had the HIGHEST plus minus on the team. Better chemistry

    • @jamesdavis8731
      @jamesdavis8731 Před měsícem

      Kerr is known for stupid lineups. Every Warrior fan in the last two years knows this. Kerr loves going small. Kerr is the same guy that almost refused to give Kuminga good minutes until it became impossible for him to not do do. In the World Cup last year Kerr's rotations were bizarre.
      The United States clearly has the most overall talent and it is not close. If the United States win the Gold it will NOT be because of good coaching by Kerr. He 'f'd up the World Cup team last year, but it will be close to impossible to eff this team up.

  • @allenallen4810
    @allenallen4810 Před měsícem +15

    I don’t agree with Collin often, but I do with this take.

    • @NewNormalWorldOrder
      @NewNormalWorldOrder Před měsícem +2

      Oh congrats, the one time you agree with him he’s WRONG.
      LeFraud Blames is the most overhyped player. Every season. For the last 15 or so years. ESPECIALLY NOW MORE THAN EVER.

    • @ChikakiTekuto
      @ChikakiTekuto Před měsícem

      Agreed. He is overrated. You have to remember you cause always agree with everyone. Sometimes, you might have to disagree with 90% of the people in the room.

    • @rayd4974
      @rayd4974 Před měsícem

      @@NewNormalWorldOrderImagine saying someone is overhype but scores the most points on less attempts & top 10 ALLTIME in 3 major categories… idiots

    • @roberthall1818
      @roberthall1818 Před měsícem

      I never agree with colin but embid as a top 5 player give me a break hes a joke jokic ate his lunch

    • @donyutejamaica631
      @donyutejamaica631 Před měsícem +1

      @@NewNormalWorldOrder, “Lefraud” 🤭lay off the drugs, dude! 🤫

  • @Black_Phillip_Goat
    @Black_Phillip_Goat Před měsícem +2

    Women don’t notice how sport show hosts never talk bad about them in their sports. They dog men out when they play bad. The day they start to treat you that way, it will be the day they are no longer pretending to care, but they’ll actually care.

  • @shawna7813
    @shawna7813 Před měsícem +3

    No, he's not overhyped. He's been a great, dominant player, but it looks like his legs are permanently shot after all the injuries. This Embid isn't the same one we saw destroy Jokic for 48 points/15 rebounds. He's a complete shell of himself...

  • @thoryl7067
    @thoryl7067 Před měsícem +1

    Embiid was absolutely trash against Serbia, thank God for KD and LeBron. Embiid had 3 turnovers with 3 missed free throws with 2 for 5 FG he needs to be benched ASAP

  • @GIGAFAT3
    @GIGAFAT3 Před měsícem +3

    Embiid earned his MVP, but he's been pretty lackluster when it matters which is why he won't win another MVP

    • @carpetbuddy
      @carpetbuddy Před měsícem

      😂😂😂 EmBIId EaRnEd his MvP 😂😂😂😂hang on, I need to catch my breath.... ok I'm back 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @GIGAFAT3
      @GIGAFAT3 Před měsícem

      @@carpetbuddy Jokic shouldn't have as many as he does and he didn't earn that one, Giannis has been better than Jokic post Bron

    • @darrenwall16
      @darrenwall16 Před měsícem

      You’re joke bro…. Go look at the stats dummies.

  • @jahairl227
    @jahairl227 Před měsícem +1

    Joel Embiid should be playing for his own African country. Not trying to stat pad with the USA team. He is way over rated. David Robinson would destroy Embiid.

  • @DBlockn05
    @DBlockn05 Před měsícem +6

    He needs to relax, Embiid in the regular season goes toe to toe with Jokic and usually wins the battles. He is not even trying in the Olympics unless he is needed.

    • @UzbekWatermelon
      @UzbekWatermelon Před měsícem +2

      yeah just like the playoffs..not even trying

    • @lelouchvibritannia2300
      @lelouchvibritannia2300 Před měsícem +2

      The problem is the Playoffs.

    • @ucheakusobi6281
      @ucheakusobi6281 Před měsícem

      Free throw merchant in the regular season. Easy to beat the Hornets in the regular season

    • @Rosecain27
      @Rosecain27 Před měsícem +1

      Embiid ducked like 3 or 4 Denver games last two seasons stop

    • @eiman_i
      @eiman_i Před měsícem +3

      @@Rosecain27 He played in Denver 2 times in his entire career. Last time was 5 years ago.

  • @RodneyGGreen
    @RodneyGGreen Před měsícem +1

    Jokic as the MVP is overrated. How far did they go without Jamal Murray hitting those clutch 3s, how far did he go when Jamal Murray was hurt? How can the best player in the league up by 20 at halftime lose a game 7!

  • @mrdmajor
    @mrdmajor Před měsícem +3

    I don't understand the logic of having Derrick White (6-4 190lb PG) replace Kawhi Leonard over Jalen Brown (6-6 223lb SG/SF) AND getting to play in a game Jason Tatum didn't (6-8 210lb SF/PF). 🤷‍♂

    • @Sam-gs7yb
      @Sam-gs7yb Před měsícem

      Its more political decision which you can or not agree with but if you are calling out a major investor, promoter of NBA/olympics/sports your not going to be preferred not matter how good you are.

    • @805fillmore
      @805fillmore Před měsícem

      I mean team USA is running 3 small guards in the starting 5 and Lebron at the 4.

  • @benitofranklyn4237
    @benitofranklyn4237 Před měsícem +1

    This is the first time in like 15 years Colin had a good take

  • @j0monkeey
    @j0monkeey Před měsícem +4

    Didn’t Tatum win the all star game mvp last year? How is that “shrinking”?

    • @claytonhall4501
      @claytonhall4501 Před měsícem +1

      Dude you’re talking about all star game mvp ? You should be ashamed to be bringing that up 🤔

    • @j0monkeey
      @j0monkeey Před měsícem

      @@claytonhall4501 lmao yes it’s not the same level but that’s being surrounded by the best guys and showing out is it not? Like think a little my guy

    • @pace348
      @pace348 Před měsícem +1

      All star game? Lol a glorified halrem globetrotter dunk contest?

    • @pace348
      @pace348 Před měsícem +1

      ​@@j0monkeeythere's no defense in thst game little guy.

    • @peweep3274
      @peweep3274 Před měsícem +1

      Dame won.

  • @sashacizup5298
    @sashacizup5298 Před měsícem +2

    Jokic plus/minus is probably the craziest plus/minus in any basketball game ever.

  • @Newstyle87
    @Newstyle87 Před měsícem +1

    Sports Media never fails.
    I’ve heard them say every single player is over hyped, it’s just a matter of time.

  • @usplayers07
    @usplayers07 Před měsícem +2

    Whoever takes advice from a guy who never played is very special

  • @cortneypope6881
    @cortneypope6881 Před měsícem +1

    Colin - Your Joel take didn’t age too well 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @ThEMrNameless01
    @ThEMrNameless01 Před měsícem +1

    Tatum is the Brock purdy of the nba

    • @terrancefrazier1111
      @terrancefrazier1111 Před měsícem

      No he's not Brock Purdy doesn't have a ring terrible comparison

  • @dougmiyamoto3109
    @dougmiyamoto3109 Před měsícem

    Joel has been on my "Never on my Team" starting 5 for a year know. He joins such luminaries as Harden, Kyrie, Simmons and newest member, Luka. Who bumped Westbrook to 6th man.
    The criteria for this team is un-godly talent, combined with almost no winning traits.

  • @aitorpalacio718
    @aitorpalacio718 Před měsícem

    3 NBA seasons after the last Olympics. Tatum: FIRST ALL NBA TEAM each of those 3 seasons. His teammates at Paris: 2 (Embiid and Booker, 1 each), but yes, Kerr is right; everybody else during 3 years have been wrong…

  • @harveylin3548
    @harveylin3548 Před měsícem

    Tatum's real value this year comes with his defensive versatility. He could defend half of the court if he wanted, a mini chuck.

  • @Lamar114
    @Lamar114 Před měsícem

    Bro Tatum is good enough to be on the team, none of your points justify him not playing ONE minute!

  • @nenadpecanac6641
    @nenadpecanac6641 Před měsícem

    Serbia was 81:81 with Jokic on the floor and 3 :29 with him off the floor

  • @JamesToliver-ge4jb
    @JamesToliver-ge4jb Před 24 dny

    Embiid was the real MVP of the Olympics. Usa dont beat Joker without Embiid, Usa also want go beat France if France had Embiid.

  • @naujud216
    @naujud216 Před měsícem

    The problem I have with this take is we have seen Embiid drag Jokic head to head in the NBA. Literally make Jokic look horrible.

  • @Fonziggy
    @Fonziggy Před měsícem

    Ok let’s not pretend that Embiid isn’t hurt, let’s not get carried away, he definitely deserved that MVP

  • @benitofranklyn4237
    @benitofranklyn4237 Před měsícem +1

    I never liked Embiid or Taytum, this really pleases me

  • @tomtalley2192
    @tomtalley2192 Před měsícem +2

    Bird made everyone better. Won mvp's over
    magic and jordan. Look what hr did with Indiana state.

  • @totalbodyperformancefitnes4813

    The US basketball team should NEVER need one guy to win. There is plenty of talent in the US to field 3 teams and still win let alone one single player.

  • @jaymack6864
    @jaymack6864 Před měsícem +2

    No person in NBA history that put up 70+ plus points is overrated. Lackadaisical maybe.

  • @ke3yl0w8
    @ke3yl0w8 Před měsícem

    People act like tatum folded when he was clearly the best player outside of luka in those finals

  • @FavreianVengeance
    @FavreianVengeance Před měsícem

    Revisionist history for a talking point. Getting rid of Marcus Smart wasn't about getting Tatum more touches in crunch time and getting a more complementary Holiday. It was about getting Porzingis. Holiday fell into the Celtics' lap after the fact.

  • @evanpena9721
    @evanpena9721 Před měsícem +2

    Funny this is the same argument you can make against Lebron vs Kobe and Jordan it’s hilarious- minus Bron does have titles

  • @Housh
    @Housh Před měsícem

    The Tatum criticism is getting crazy
    He was a big reason Boston was unstoppable

  • @saiyanroyalty229
    @saiyanroyalty229 Před měsícem

    Joel literally has 50 points against the Knicks defense on one leg with Bell's palsy and hes somehow a bad player

  • @robglobal1
    @robglobal1 Před měsícem +1

    The most overhyped over talked about player is EASILY Lebron but let's all just follow the narratives and pretend that's not true like good little sheep

  • @yaasiynmuhammad6892
    @yaasiynmuhammad6892 Před měsícem

    Embiid averages 27 points against Jokic. Jokic averages 22 against Embiid. Shut up Cowherd.

  • @andreayounes4621
    @andreayounes4621 Před měsícem +1

    Hes can play both ways. Hes a scorer amd can defend, rebound and assist. He can drive to the basket and shoot threea. He was the second highest scoring person on the USA team in Tokyo behind durant. He is the only first team all NBA player on this current team. Hes the champion. The level of disrespect is unreal. Him over booker, embiid, even curry who hasnt played that well in this last game oe the exhibitions except for one game.

  • @KreepKid
    @KreepKid Před měsícem

    Aside from the bad takes that I heard in this video, Colin was spot on about Tatum

  • @MrOscarFive
    @MrOscarFive Před měsícem

    You accurately described an overhyped Tatum, a product of the NBA and media's attempt to paint him as a Madison Avenue darling. Tatum self-proclaimed on national TV that he was a once-in-a-generation player and a student of all things Mamba. Well, how's that working out, Jason? He lacks grit and adaptive IQ, fears taking a high-pressure game-winning shot, and appears too often lost. Jaylen Brown should have been on Team USA over Tatum.

  • @juliusperseus8612
    @juliusperseus8612 Před měsícem

    100% FACT !
    Embiid is just a Name.
    He's the Common Denominator of Many First Round Exit.