Return to Gilneas MISSED OPPORTUNITY, Warcraft's FACTION NEUTRAL PROBLEM

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  • čas přidán 23. 01. 2024
  • Here we discuss the return to Gilneas quests, faction neutrality and how the story could be improved upon in the future!
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Komentáře • 28

  • @CptVanguard
    @CptVanguard Před 5 měsíci +5

    As an RPer, who has been rping on wow since 2005 I am laughing my ass off at how perfectly accurate that last part was lmao.

    • @williamoakleaf
      @williamoakleaf  Před 5 měsíci

      When I do representation, I make sure I am accurate to the source material. XD

  • @DekRavenmane
    @DekRavenmane Před 4 měsíci +1

    11:38 As as former Blood Death Knight main or what the roleplaying community see as a Death Knight with no supernatural abilities akin to Warriors with the exception of a Healing factor (That may or may not be Canon itself), I could say that is immensely Accurate.

  • @Larathen
    @Larathen Před 5 měsíci +5

    Calia never admitted to becoming Queen. She never wanted to become queen, she just wanted to be accepted despite being brought unconventionally compared to the Forsaken and felt like an outsider. She also feels remorse to what Arthas did, and is trying to redeem the damage He did upon the Forsaken with ala cleaning the Blight from the Undercity.
    Lillian even convinces Calia to try to understand the Forsaken and learn her place among them. And they form the Desolate Council so to not Repeat Another Sylvanas among them, since they all are doing their best to separate from her reign.
    In the Forsaken heritage quest, you literally drive out the Scarlet Crusade lingering in Lordaeron and they flee to Silverpine/Gilneas that is currently abandoned since the Council ordered a withdrawal of troops from the city. So it makes sense the Scarlets would occupy an empty city. And since, well, Forsaken fukkin hate Scarlets, they figured two birds, one stone. Kill them off, the doggos can have their city back. Lillian herself is an ex-Scarlet, and wants revenge.
    Honestly. I'm getting kinda tired expansion after expansion of "Useless and Clearly Racist Undertone Faction War until suddenly Big Bad interrupts War and Time to work together!!" kind of storytelling. Its better to just, you know, co-exist. Because lets be real, factions cause a lot of toxicity among playerbase, and a lot of game features are slowly removing the barrier to broaden the playerbase.

    • @williamoakleaf
      @williamoakleaf  Před 5 měsíci +2

      Oh, I'm all for getting along with the factions! I am of the opinion there needs to be more work put in that regard before there can be some solid footing -- Especially after the Fourth War.
      Guardians of the Dream, and the establishment of Amirdrassil was a decent step in the right direction, of which I think having the Horde heroes being able to visit as guests is satisfying enough. Regarding Gilneas, there does seem to be a bit more left to be desired. Calia willingly giving the Gilneans back their home is a brilliant step to building amicable relations.
      I do think just randomly inserting the Scarlet Crusade in (Because zealous religious order is an enemy we can all hate together :) ) seems a bit of left field. It would've made more sense that there are a small sect of the Forsaken still loyal to Sylvanas's previous orders. IMO, it would've made for intrigue and carried a bit more of a satisfying conclusion to the Gilnean story, while showing that the majority of Forsaken have truly turned over a new leaf from where they originally were.

    • @angrygamer1478
      @angrygamer1478 Před 5 měsíci +1

      i agree with u there. just having war against eachother over and over again. and the reasons that start another war between the alliance and horde gets more and more ridclous like come on

  • @Linto616
    @Linto616 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Im going to be honest faction neutrality kills the whole faction pride which was a great feeling and it’s a fantasy story means it needs epic and cruel interesting stories to make thing interesting…it’s not called world of WARcraft for no reason…anyway great video keep up the great work the last part was pretty funny^^

  • @alkon8032
    @alkon8032 Před 5 měsíci +3

    "We are going to basically.... fuck.." At least take me out to dinner first

    • @williamoakleaf
      @williamoakleaf  Před 5 měsíci

      Best I can do is $2 cheeseburger at McDonalds.

  • @rock4u77
    @rock4u77 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I was not expecting the ending to have the unhinged fervour of some bogans shouting at the security guard out the front in Kings Cross past lockout, God bless the RP.

    • @williamoakleaf
      @williamoakleaf  Před 5 měsíci

      I’m doing my part and exporting Australian culture.

  • @DEUS_VULT_INFIDEL
    @DEUS_VULT_INFIDEL Před 5 měsíci +1

    Probably the single worst questline in the game. Not on its own, but because it's effectively the culmination of the excellent Worgen starting zone and Silverpine quests.
    It's like being served a really good steakburger and fries, ordering seconds, and the waiter comes out with a freshly laid turd on a bed of lettuce.
    Funniest part, at least to me, is how I said somewhere that if it went down the way that it did I wouldn't even bother resetting my hearthstone.
    Funny because they threw in a teleport toy with a half hour cooldown that's Worgen specific. But you don't even have to be Worgen to get it, you can just relog and have it mailed/appear in your collection. Not the case for anything else to that point, I still had to go through Baine's centaur hate on a cow to get the totem transmog, but not the case here for some reason.
    Just makes the whole thing seem like that much more of an afterthought, like they don't even care, and I must be onto something with that considering lore historians were among those 1900+ that were laid off.

  • @CinnamonQuills
    @CinnamonQuills Před 5 měsíci +1

    I will die mad about the timeskip.

    • @CinnamonQuills
      @CinnamonQuills Před 5 měsíci +1

      Also, most accurate representation of MG RP 🤣

    • @williamoakleaf
      @williamoakleaf  Před 5 měsíci +1

      The more that time goes on, the more I'm feeling that the timeskip does not serve any actual purpose. >.>

  • @leonklein6494
    @leonklein6494 Před 5 měsíci +2

    nice video

  • @Pandapold
    @Pandapold Před 5 měsíci +1

    Oh no WoW still sucks? This news,... about 15 years to late.

    • @williamoakleaf
      @williamoakleaf  Před 5 měsíci

      It’s not TERRIBLE! Sure there’s room for improvement here and there but it isn’t a horrible game! Dragonflight, gameplay-wise, has been a superb expansion. One of my favourite so far.

  • @saellenx3528
    @saellenx3528 Před 5 měsíci

    Be happy that you got your City. Alliance sucks and nobody plays that faction. The fact that Blizzard is giving you anything should be celebrated.😂😂

    • @KingNorixius
      @KingNorixius Před 5 měsíci

      Just another salty horde. More people play horde but there's still many who play Alliance. Not dead by any means.

    • @saellenx3528
      @saellenx3528 Před 5 měsíci

      @@KingNorixius Blizzard had to allow you to play with Horde players in order for you not to go extinct. What is worse Alliance players cried and begged Blizzard to let them play with Horde players haha. And now you people want some fan service to kill some Horde NPC's and are crying about it.😂😂
      Alliance is played by kids and people who have white knight complex. Everybody else plays Horde.

    • @KingNorixius
      @KingNorixius Před 5 měsíci +1

      @saellenx3528 I mean I've played both since Wrath and this is the first I've hear of Alliance complaining about not playing horde. Why are you so upset? Lol calm down

    • @KingNorixius
      @KingNorixius Před 5 měsíci +1

      @saellenx3528 Do you have this kinda attitude in-game? You're probably only upset about all the alliance/horde stuff because even with the influx of people in group finder your toxicity still won't allow you to actually find a group. Who cares which side plays which? It's a video game.

  • @TheEpicKomrads
    @TheEpicKomrads Před 5 měsíci

    Femboy