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Willie Mason & Justin Horo present Levels Podcast, twice a week reviewing & previewing all the NRL games also giving their best tips.
Willie Mason is a former Kangaroo and NSW representative, is considered one of the most successful front rowers in NRL history. In 2004, he was a part of the famous 'Dogs of War' team that won the Grand Final, and he also received the Clive Churchill Medal during that match.
Justin Horo is a former NRL player who played 120 games for Parramatta and Manly from 2010 to 2015. In addition to playing in the UK Super League, he also represented the New Zealand Māori team.
0:00 Mase Calls Out iShowSpeed
3:15 RESPONDING TO WAHS FANS
16:39 CZcams REPLY: CAPEWELL & NATE MYLES DEBATE
20:19 CZcams QUESTION: SAM TAGATESE
22:33 NICHO'S HEROIC ACT
24:55 LAS VEGAS 2025
27:00 EELS COACHING & CONTRACT
33:40 ORIGIN CHAT
36:50 DOLPHINS V RABBITOHS
39:53 SHARKS V TIGERS
43:00 TITANS V EELS
46:18 BRONCOS V DRAGONS
48:24 MANLY V KNIGHTS
51:05 TAB BETS FRIENDS SPECIAL MULTI - Sport
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No dramas in the Bahamas scope. 👍🏽
Sick episode lads, thanks for addressing the missed penalty.
I am a day 1 warriors fan and that missed penalty hurt but WHAT A GAME ! And to be fair, we lost to the storm with 15 seconds to go, who’s to say the doggies didn’t snatch it even if we did get the penalty kick.
Game of the year so far, both teams gave it their all, warriors missing back 3 as well, UP THE WAHS
Done brothers
As a warriors fan I’m sick of hearing about it I was pissed but what can ya do
Legends! Fully agree with all of that. Definitely wasn’t having a dig at you guys or anything with my comment either, your podcast is the best around and I really appreciate the time and effort you guys put into it for us fans each week 🙌🏽
Nah your comment was fine bro! That’s why I read it out. I will never waste my time with anyone just attacking. I will never begrudge a listener for respectfully disagreeing with us!! - Horo
Problem was it wasn't a mistake, it was a conscious decision not to award a penalty from the bunker and the ref who had minutes to look at it. They were too gutless to make the call at that point of what was a very intense game. The feeling is from wahs fans, cos webby never whinges and the warriors are out of sight out of mind in NZ, it's a case of "who cares, it just the warriors".. having said all that, the wahs only have themselves to blame for finding themselves in a position where they'll probably miss the 8 after some putrid performances this year. Can't blame the ref for losing to the bottom team twice, shooting out to 2 try leads and losing, losing a game in the last play..
Agree mate we should have iced the game regardless
Fuggn spot on 100% ...mace is the man, but hes missing the point on this one. Intent comes later in this, first things first was it late? was it high? Was it illegal contact? Yes, yes, yes. Wahs fans aint soookin at all thats our fuggn problem, we dont kick up a stink like syd teams in media etc etc etc. Coz theres no nz media talking it up. Refs fuggd this call badly
As a doggies fan from NZ. We definitely got away with one. Thanks for addressing it on the poddie, nice to hear some league OGs other than Corey Parker calling it out.
hahahaha you boys talking about gaming made me piss myself because it reminded me of the time at footy training before a big match we had coming up, my dad was assistant coach and hes giving his gee up speech to the fellas wearing his handle bar moustache and mullet that goes to his ass and he goes "and i dont want yas fuckin stayin up til fuckin 4am the night before playin your fuckin world of warcrafts" - and i just remember all the boys turning around going "who the fuck does that" and dad just fully outing me as this raging nerd in my second life outside of footy
Mace watching a God of war stream is what i needed to hear today 😂
Question for Mace, in your explanation about the tmm hit, you base it off intent, are we now deciding penalty’s of the intent of the player or what actually happens.
That’s been the question for a while. Ppl were saying Sualii was rightly sent off bc he had intent purely based off the fact he didn’t (couldn’t) pull out and Reece was out cold. It’s not a new thing - sometimes it’s based off intent, others it’s the result or the action itself
Just one of those ones mate, gotta put it to bed. Wahs still had opportunities to win the game too. Understand the frustration but it’s done now. Still chances to make the eight for wahs.
@@emuss2760 dw just a salty warriors fan, just tryna get mace to see more of our side
Technically it goes off how the ref feels. Some weeks it's a sent off other weeks a penalty or sometimes missed or put on report
@@nga05tbf the refs can’t have eyes everywhere. The bunkers supposed to pick those ones up
LEVELS #1 baby. Wiremu OG & Hoz continue to kill it. Up Levels. UP DA WAHS.
my poor knights get no discussion 😭. I know everyone hates us but please can you give us at least 2min of hopium so i want to tune in.
We are the NRLs red-headed step kid
Great episode!!
Love listening to your game predictions on a Sunday, after games have played. 😅 Crazy how spot on some predictions are. Always a laugh when scope starts making OG second guess himself 😂 Love the pod brothers.
Love this pod cast🤙
How can you boys do Tagaz like that!! He was definitely in that 2016 premiership winning Sharks team! Love the show lads
Up Up
Speed is the goat, started from nothing and got bullied. Now makes more then Kd. He is creative and reason why he is top streamer. He only 19
I came here to say this. Speed is the OG streamer, also a proper philanthropist that does things for his fans quite often.
Do we need Golden Point? Surely everyone can agree that the fairest outcome for the Warriors/Bulldogs game was a point each.
love how the boys addressed the wahs drama love it boys gutted as a fan but back everything youve said!
If Speed shouted the boys poddy out, the subs would be craaazy
LIKED, COMMENTED, SHARED. Loving the energy on this one fellas. Would be awesome if you guys did a meet and greet somewhere in sydney
Love the truths boys
As a wahs fan, we’re fucked ay 🤣 we get heaps of calls against us but like fuck what does whinging do lol
Gets us to Vegas
Awareness sets platforms for change… nrl know this was controversial and will be looked at
OG will love this, for the last 2 years the team that has finished in 15th position the following year has finished in the top 4.
Went Cowboys in 2022, then the Warriors in 2023 … Bulldogs finished in 15th last year
There’s always going to be the odd game where one ref/bunker decision is going to decide the game. The warriors aren’t the first to fall victim and they won’t be the last.
Warriors get it every round
@@Brian_Saginashvili_ Youse got majority calls vs Broncos😂😂😂😂
@@Brian_Saginashvili_bro 💀 no they don’t
@@farazalam5772 Yeah sure 🤣🤣 Australians hate us winning 🤣🤣 Underarm bowling nation 🤣🤣
@@taiyonatiare7918 Who asked you?
Something I think everyone would love to know: Can you clue us in on when players move clubs (Brisbane to Sydney etc), do they get housing sorted for themselves or do they just move their family over to their new club etc. I don’t think this gets mentioned much but both of you can clear this up. Cheers
Thanks for addressing the TMM hit more, as a diehard Warriors fan, we are just mad that this crap does happen to us a bit more than the rest!
Love the poddy boys, appreciate the effort and work, gets me through my night shift 🫳🏽
Hey scope and mase, loving the content lately keep it up! With all the origin chat and how it affects teams this time of year do you think introducing a player cap from each club could help this? Eg 2-3 players from each time only. Could this help solve the issues or keep it as is. Cheers legends
love your work boys just comin to ask if you think jayden brayley would be a good signing for parramatta.
Tmm literally took 2 steps before he got hit hows that a little bit late no its dowmesnt take 0.1 seconds to get to that point it takes 2 seconds at least to gwt to that point he literally could of pulled out how can the warriors pull out tho
As a feral Warriors fan, love you guys and don't think you're biased at all, that's what I love about the pod.
I will say though, that I'm not sure the statements that Salmon "didn't change his height" and he "came flying in to put pressure" is much of a penalty mitigation these days other than not committing foul play. In fact, both of these sentences have been used to describe someone who was out of control and not in a position to affect a legal tackle at a time that head contact is being cracked down on.
We always show up aye boys, phins up😘
10:17 had me rolling 😂😂 stop fuckin doing that 😂
My opinion, if a player lays on the ground they must go off for 15 minutes to be checked. If it is a HIA then fair enough but if it isn't a HIA their team loses the free interchange.
Cotter and the toads scammed a free interchange after the Martin lifting tackle when Cotter landed on his arm, his head never went near the ground.
Should of been binned for the spear tackle
long time listener, first time poster. Love the poddy boys, genuine question. you guys have the BSC dawg of the week, reckon you could double down with a cat of the week for the NRL player who lays down the worst? the clutching at the face or neck for minor incidents that they make look career ending until the penalty is blown are a blight on the game, and an award like that which specifically calls out players for being massive cats would help bring awareness that this s#!+ has to stop
Worse idea ever. Not really what levels is about
Your poddy should replace NRL 360
10:25 Mase saying no other sport comes out the next day and admits they got it wrong. Fwiw, AFL does it too. But yeah, both should stop. Makes no one feel any better and increases abuse against Umps/Refs
So does the NBA and premier league
Bsc cans and protein bars are also at United servos get one can when I deliver there all the time 😂 berry burst my fav
We heard about clubs, like Parra, needing a ‘clean outs’ of the roster. What’s does a good clean out look like vs not so good.
The bunker reviewed it on the field on the day. It wasn't late, there was no intent to hit him. Jamon Salmon came out much worse. But because Graham Ainsley who should of just backed his bunker and their decision came out and said the Warriors should of got a Penalty, it's makes that loss for the Warriors alot worse.
Also Graham Ainsley came out and said after the Reece Walsh vs Tago incident as 'duty of care' did Salmon show duty of care probably not, but the Game was on the line and anyone who knows the game will surely get that 😊 Love the show boys
I think Willie needs to watch Salmon's late hit again. He wasn't kicking the ball, it was a pass! Martin maganiged to take a step and changed his vision to Salmon from looking at the ball, was clearly late and reckless. Thats why he's been suspended.
the fact he didn't change his level is whole the point. he hit him in the head because it was a lazy, late attempt. it was a shit call, karma will get the bulldogs at some point, hopefully it costs them a final, and OG will whinge like a warriors fan. full circle moment.
He didn’t kick cause salmon was pressuring him and thus he changed from kicking to passing. It was late but I’ve seen them given and not given so many times but cause it’s the warriors everyone is bitching about it 🤣🤣, btw I’m surprised there was no penalty for a shoulder charge. That was more baffling then the late hit, arms tucked in, lead with the shoulders and no attempt to wrap the player so yea I’m really confused about that one. Was definitely a penalty. But sometimes u win some and sometimes u lose some
Hey mate.
Origin preview question.
Was thinking what the biggest loss was for each team in regards to early injury with their respective bench make ups? for me if qld lose carrigan or cotter early it leaves a heavy Burdon on the remaing forwards and forces hunt, grant and\or ponga to essentially play as a middle for most of the game.
For NSW losing a outside back pushes either Watson or angus into centre.
Do you agree or see something different?
When they said there not bias. What a 29Q 🇹🇴 W. Mason lmao.
Last weeks pod “no more referee talk for the rest of the season”
Start of very next pod a good 10 mins on refereeing 😂😂😂
Gotta respond to the fans bro
Hi gents, great episode. Go NSW. Question, do you see the bulldogs keeping the same intensity over the next 8-10 weeks? If so, can they make the top 4 now the sharks have lost Hynes?
Instead of the head of refs saying the call was wrong. We should get what the bunker/ref at the time saw and why they did or didnt make a call.
Best poddy in da biz 💯
Faark these boys Never Tip the Dolphins 🐬🤣
Middle ground on Salmon late hit:
Refs got it wrong, both during and post match.
Simple as that.
Ref can’t have eyes everywhere tho so human error is always going to be a factor. The bunker has 100 camera angles - it’s their job to pick it up
Luki was free for like 10 seconds. 😂
#freeluki
The media love to bash players like Hynes but never write anything good
Agree they turned on him pretty fast
Rate that windbreaker scope
Question for the boys do you think someone needs to step up in the leadership role now that nicho isn’t there and what do the sharks need to do to stay contenders love the podcast🔥
Lads I need to know, after watching Trindall chased down by everyone in a Tigers jersey, who wins in a 100 metre race. Him or Hastings? Haha love your work lads
Regarding origin team selections. Wouldn’t be great if they did an hour special on TV/streaming
service with coaches announce team selections and then a live panel of greats have some discussions and analysis the teams.
I watch a lot of champions league football and the televise when they draw teams for the groups and it’s good fun.
Hey lads!
Appreciate the show!
Bit of a jump the gun question in the world of rugby league and Union BUT…
What if under Joe Schmidt the wallabies are able to win the Bledislode Cup and potentially defeat the British & Irish Lions and usher in a new era for rugby?
Do you think that rugby league and AFL could lose all that talent that comes from the Schoolboys system and therefore rendering the other two codes back to when it was the 90’s as a result of the draw to the Union stage and glory associated?
I Love both codes equally.
Thanks for your time in reading this novel of a question 😂
Big mase. Did you ever ponder what if? If you had played for the kiwis. I think I remember you were eligible for both
the TMM situation probably could have been a penalty but its one of those close ones sometimes you get them sometimes you dont. The team has to be good enough that it doesnt come down to one or two calls like that
Bsc cans are on special at my Coles but only got 3 flavours
The thing I noticed about the refs if a team is under to much pressure and is losing the possession substantially they try to give the team under pressure a call
Triple OG live action Kratos confirmed!!!
Fair enough re: the frame of the slow mo on the Te-Maire Martin hit. A frame is 1/24 of a second (24fps). Still - in real time it was pretty obvious. So it's on the on-field ref really.
I can cop the ref missing or getting it wrong but not the bunker
Boys I'll be doing interviews outside Suncorp pre game would love to catch a loose mason and g him up
Wahs fan, like your take boys...I think part of the frustration is that they can go back 3 tackles to put Montoya on report once Kikau drops the ball...but somehow cant rule a penalty for the late shot. Oh well....lets bring out the calculators #stillamathematicalchance
using the nrl predictor warriors can still finish top
God do I wanna see Sneeko or speed react to that opening and try and hype up and acting tough saying "Who the hell even is this OG guy" then looks him up and then goes all quiet as the first video he finds is Mase knocking out Feildon and they go quiet real quick
Fuck you Mas lol I will and am still crying about not getting the 2 points. I think it’s just hard this year because we had expectations of a top 4 finish and we’re playing like shit house. Still love the poddy lads
Definitely, just be consistent. Refs seem to have a targeted theme each round. What happened to the up town penalty they went hard on? Then head contact round. Sin bin round lol
Thoughts on this opinion;
If bunnies lose to dolphins they can't make the 8.
If broncos lose to dargons they can't either.
Whoever loses between raiders warriors next week can't too
Interesting!
Love to argue but your correct - Dogs loss very likely killed WAHS chances but there is a very slight chance left.
Dude there’s so many games left and the comp is so close, a game in the next fortnight won’t be the be all and end all aye
@@alightthatnevergoesout True, but a team needs 32 points to make the 8 mathematically.
@@alightthatnevergoesout 32 points to make finals- do the math
It’s sad that Nicho is judged by his mental health when it comes to origin . The life this guy has lead he should be championed not vilified when his game is slightly off ❤.ps Dylan Brown owes the Eels a lot he ain’t going anywhere .
Like the video boys and girls
the only two players that laid down trying to milk a penalty were Morrin and Kikau
Roosters need to get in on Blaize with their departures in the backs.
It is god of war triple og such a good game
Not just this call. Been multiple shocking calls over the year Go against the warriors like shocking ones like not even in the area of oh that happens to every team. Dwz was taken out in the air intentionally in the act of scoring but no penalty try. Then we see penalty tries for the rest of the year given for way less including last nights game where jye grey got to the ball first with no one around him and still dropped it lol
You only respect NZ after David Kidwell gave you a lesson on respect
The NRL has specific rules regarding head contact in defense to ensure player safety. Here are the rules:
High Tackles:
Any tackle that makes contact with the head or neck of an opponent is considered a high tackle.
High tackles can result in penalties, and depending on the severity, players can be placed on report or sent off.
Shoulder Charges:
Shoulder charges that make direct contact with the head or neck of an opponent are illegal.
Players found guilty of shoulder charges can face suspensions and fines.
Dangerous Contact:
Any action deemed dangerous, including forceful contact with the head or neck, can result in penalties.
This includes reckless or careless actions that pose a risk to player safety.
Penalties and Disciplinary Actions:
Referees can penalize players on the field for high tackles or dangerous contact.
Incidents can be reviewed by the NRL Match Review Committee, leading to further disciplinary actions such as fines or suspensions.
Concussion Protocols:
Players showing signs of concussion after head contact must undergo head injury assessments (HIA).
There are strict return-to-play protocols to ensure players have fully recovered before resuming play.
These rules are designed to minimize the risk of head injuries and ensure player safety in the NRL.
Salmon kick pressure. Dead set penalty. Stop sitting on the fence Horo. You def side with mase on this bro. Love ya work 99% of the time but your take on this, is CRAZY
Wild take but you’re not going to agree with everything someone else says 💀
As regards the Bunker. I think they point issues out to the on field Referee, then he reviews the footage from the field and makes the decision. The Referee should be the sole arbiter of the game.
This is how it works in union and it has some benefits, especially when they actually discuss it. Two heads are better than one.
I’m a WAHS fan 💯 salmon only gets suspended cause of the pressure put on the bunker and ref not calling it so it there way of saying sorry we fucked up here’s how we will fix it 🤦♂️ Sunbury got ainslee and the ref red cards 😂😂
23:10 yeh nobody wants to see nicho cop the stick he just needs to play 6 instead of 7 and all the knocks will disappear
Forget clubland games. Play the State of Origin & World Club Challenge at Vegas
the problem is the NRL referees and NRL MRC are 2 separate bodies. I daresay there's barely any communication between them post game regarding incidents that are placed on report short of the ref sending in their report. Both the refs and bunker cleared the incident. but the MRC can then look at incidents after the game and retrospectively place people on report. they have the luxury of a full 24 hrs post game to go through all incidents whereas the refs and bunkers need to make split second decisions. what's also been stupid is the direction from the NRL to have 'force' be taken into account with any acts of foul play that occur. It's stupid that force is being taken into account considering all incidents that occur are always going to be forceful. I was surprised Salmon even got charged by the MRC let alone a 2 game suspension for what the MRC is deeming 'late and forceful contact'. Like you guys said as well really doesn't help when Graham throws the refs under the bus in a public forum.
It’s embarrassing to be a wahs supporter sometimes. So many sooks in the fanbase.
Morning boys Willie is right it’s the bunkers fault 🤙 Didn’t deserve the 3-4 weeks he is out with 4-5 anyways with a fractured jaw so with that being said it should’ve been a penalty that’s it but love this content I’m a warriors fan too I can be bias sometimes
Don’t be fooled most warriors fans understand the game
NBA actually does come out afterwards and tells everyone what calls they missed in the last few minutes also (which I hate too). It does absolutely nothing
I'm a warriors fan and I thought the ref was brilliant, and the game was even better. That was a shit call, but we will move on and get better.
You two keep talking about intent regarding head contact. There are no allowances or considerations within the rules for intent. What are you two struggling to understand here? Head contact = penalty. WTF is hard about that?
That's what I posted here too, "not changing his height" and "couldn't stop" aren't really great mitigating factors. It just means he hasn't bent at the hips and is out of control
The wahs aren’t the first team to get screwed over by the ref/bunker and won’t be the last. Bunker missed their assignment and now we gotta move on
@@taiyonatiare7918 move on or push for change?
wahs fans are blaming that decision for missing the 8 but your teams getting smacked every other week from bottom 8 sides, id probably be looking at why the playing group appears fractured this year compared to last rather than point fingers outwards
Can we talk about how shit the djs are at games for years on end ! Every dj at stadiums play the same main 5 songs ! The djs don’t do a proper job on hyping the crowd and the teams up especially with tight games the djs job should be to pump up everyone and not play fkn boom boom boom boom I want you in my room for every try The panthers dj needs to be sacked for playing the same playlist for the last 5 years im comparing this to America we lag so much with the djs at nrl games
Newy supporter here and i even i know the refs love screwing nz. I got am idea mace wat u think there should be a compensation system where if the officials including the bunker get a or more wrong decisions that dud a team a win the team that lost should receive 2 compensation points while the other team gets to keep points the original got.
Come on boys if he touched his leg would have been a sin bin. Runs in smashed him face to face nothing. Its up to him to drop his body position. Should have been a penalty at the least honestly this is a shocker.
After hearing Casey Badger in the bunker, she needs to go
Kasey look once make the call badger
Aye lads love the poddie And those bsc green cans are the fucking tits lads.
Aye question for the OG and you too chez’s best friend.
Willie you’d be aware of the infamous valo devils, believe like myself possibly The OG too , dining the jersey before he was a scorp. But I remember last year they were under scrutiny for being “too good” and other teams made formal complaints about it being unfair playing them. They were forced to water down their teams to make it fair. Do we think this is going to hurt the culture of nrl long term ? It seems from the junior systems there’s no rankings anymore. Are we driving a participation award culture over a being the best team and striving to be at the top?
Hope that’s makes sense
Keep it up ya maaarrdd bastards
Doning *
Big fan of Willie since Day dot but he's lying if he thinks he's not Bias towards the Dogs and his remarks again prove that , Intent was not there but it's a careless action which should have been penalized regardless of the context of the game , There was another instance in this game where a Wahs player got penalized for an incident that happened a set earlier , which the Bunker got involved in after multiple reviews , yet in this instance there was no Penalty after multiple reviews and they just let play go on. Ultimately the Bunker is not showing any consistency when reviewing foul play across the board which is really frustrating to watch.
No Trell, No Dub
Yep, for this season anyway. Will change next year with Wayne
All I can say is thank fuck the Warriors have the bye this week so I don't have to hear about how they were robbed for another week
There are some wah fans and NRL fans in general that do not own their feelings and feel they need to blame someone. In this case the bunker and ref did let us down, this is where it belongs. Anneslys explanation was pathetic, they talk about players safety my a$$.
Roosters vs Bulldogs 2024 GF and Bulldogs win ...
The ball was already gone and ur man salmon is throwing his shoulder after the ball is gone whilst closing his eyes he could of pulled out he’s a fwd he’s blowing he didn’t pull bkoz he closed his eyes
as a doggies fan should of been a penalty to the dogs fuck em lol. nah could of been a penalty to the warriors but should no way be any weeks suspension its only just a penalty
Everyone makes mistakes and refs are human.
BUT….
This is why the bunker was introduced. There is no other excuse for this other than bias or match fixing.
Decisions like this don’t just affect the game. They affect everything.
A) player welfare
B.) competition points
C) for and against points
D) fan support
E) gate sales
F) merchandise sales
G) ability of clubs to retain players
H) ability of club to attract players
I) ability for clubs to retain sponsors
J) ability of clubs to increase sponsorship revenues
K) the ability for sponsors to leverage popularity to increase product sales
L) the reputation of the game on the world stage
This isn’t just a simple oh sorry we got it wrong we’ll try do do better.
This is a potentially multi million dollar decision that decides the viability of a club to compete and succeed.
There is absolutely no accountability and an apology doesn’t make anything better if anything it makes it worse.
Canberra is not a state
Lolz who wants you to be pro wahz fan? Lol that's just ridiculous I'm a warriors fan and I rather y'all call it down the middle none of this bias bs that's why I like your podcast