1:03:23 "You see, Mac, the workers can say 'no,' but they wont. because of the implication."
Of course they can say no, they can always say no. But they're not going to because of the implication.
No, just quarter boats and a really fucking long bridge @@MrLurker906
Nobody is talking about the mouth feel of Portland cement or smeatons bridge school in France
So really, a trainpilled wife guy built a monument to man's huburis that ultimately failed at transporting water over salty water. Dudes rock.
@@Reddsoldier who needs renderite when you have an iron will and prison labor
between the hot redhead and The Tree That Kills You Instantly, we might have a top 10 ever episode on our hands here
Trying to listen to this while driving through an area with bad reception is like edging yourself to a slapstick engineering disaster
I can relate. Totally unrelated, there are free ways of downloading audio (and video) on Android such as NewPipe.
As a Miami guy this episode drove me nuts.
Put some respect on Julia Tuttle’s name, She has the honor of being the only woman in the US to found a Major City.
The Everglades isn’t a mangrove swamp it’s a 60 mile wide 100 mile long slow moving river. It’s incredible and there’s nothing else like it on earth.
Great podcast though. welp back to hunting coked up pythons in the everglades.
"... I didn't want to send Devon back to the torment nexus, but here we are" should be added to the canon of greatest openings in history.
Especially since Rocz had ended the previous episode on a line talking about the torment nexus, gotta love a multiple-episode story arc
His mustache doesn’t conceal a secret smile, it conceals a secret second mustache.
This is visible in a portrait of him in the Lightner in St. Augustine
Careful now, these are almost becoming manageable podcast length.
What is this a podcast for ants? It should be at least 3 times this long
And on a regular schedule? Disgusting and abhorrent, I will be cancelling my subscription in protest
Remember when the binman was hard and Well There's Your Problem episodes were 4 days long
A moment of silence for the dude who tied himself to the tree that kills you to survive a hurricane trying to kill him.
The whole cast is a riot, but let's all be honest, the Activate Windows logo is truly the backbone of WTYP.
Next person who sends a Safety Third story needs to include a salutation to the Activate Windows Logo.
"In 1910, figuring lightning wouldn't strike twice..."
It's called hurricane _season._
"What are the chances of a 50 mile wide erratic cylinder of water and wind rolling over at least 1 part of a 7 miles span every hurricane. What do you mean 90% chance"
My grandfather-in-law worked for the National Parks service for almost fifty years. For one of his first assignments right out of college he was sent to the keys for a few months to do surveying. The work was to start in December and they were sending him with a Jeep. He had to go pick up the Jeep in New York and drive it to Jacksonville Florida. Taking into account the location of the work, they did not equip the Jeep with heat (and as a result no defroster). This would be fine for the Caribbean. Not so great for the Northeast in December. After dealing with snow and winter in a softop Jeep with no heat, theh finally arrived in Jacksonville, loaded the jeep on a transpo ship, and headed off to the Keys. Once they arrived they quickly found out that the Jeep would sink to the axles any time they ventured off a gravel road. By the time their assignment was done, they had done less than half the originally planned work and were recalled to their office. He would always quip that they (the US government, et al) could keep him fed and equipped on a remote south pacific island, but they couldnt defeat the state of Florida.
I went to the Keys on a geological field trip and it always stuck with me that the same thing happened to the Spanish and their poor horses. As in Lions Led By Donkeys, RIP to the horses, the guys eh.
Rozc twirling his mustache as Devon lies tied to the railroad tracks. And, notably, Liam and November are enabling this behavior. For shame.
Look if they don't support him they will be next, they have families to think about.
@@Jonnyg325 I mean, November might just be into it, tbh. Liam, tho, has made so many promises to visit violence upon Rozc, I’d expect him to make good. I mean, I don’t _really_ want that, but Liam’s painted many a picture of what he’d beat Rozc with (often hard drives), that I’m just plain curious
only in wtyp do I see a 2 hour time stamp about a train episode and think "oh that's surprisingly brisk"
Just in case anyone gets the wrong idea from your glowing review of the machineel tree and takes it as a challenge - the fruits contain (among other nightmare compounds) eserene, which as a cholinergic parasympathomimetic toxin belongs in the same class as sarin gas and VX nerve agent. It's associated with the SLUDGE cluster of symptoms - salivation, lacrimation, urination, diarrhoea, gastric distress, and emesis (vomiting). It also slows your heart and tricks your lungs into drowning themselves.
Was not familiar with the term lacrimation. But given the rest of the symptoms it seems fitting
But why does the tree make them tasty then? What do you get out of this, mysterious murder treee?
@@sherlocksmuuug6692 You probably have not lived in Florida. These trees totally track for Florida
17:50 "This has made a lot of people angry and was widely regarded as a bad idea." Thank you
Hearing that quote out of nowhere (especially after the news segment), made my day
Extremely based Devon at 53:50 recognizing that there are indeed living dinosaurs, just not non-avian ones. You make my autistic, paleontology-obsessed ass very happy.
...now I want an iteration of the "Go Birds!" drop where he says "Go Dinosaurs!" but can't pronounce it correctly.
i hooted and hollered when the manchineel came up. love that tree. i love when plants just decide they want to kill everything
in this episode: nobody dies, I assume
edit: oh no, the GD news has owned me
I know... poor dude. He must have felt absolutely helpless to do anything. I know the feeling, but I can't imagine it being so intense and feeling so hopeless that I couldn't do anything but die. Add him as another genocide victim, I suppose. War sucks, genocide sucks, insert third obvious statement here. Man....
Ah, the one where they built a hurricane-powered money burning machine.
Mind you they recently built a higher speed railway and got bought by Mexicans before they were finished.
Rest in Power, Aaron Bushnell.
Also, TRAIN EPISODE YOOOO
Aarons Bushnell's body lies smouldering in the grave
But his soul goes marching on.
Furries exhalting a burning soldier and reveling in train trance.
I come to this podcast to find my brethren.
I love Train Episodes thats why I started listening to this podcast a year ago
Never forget, Aaron Bishnell continued to burn as the first person to respond brought a only gun and failed to render timely aid.
Growing up in south Florida, Flagler absolutely gets deified, especially in the public school system, but he really did do a lot to shape the state into what it is today, not that that’s necessarily a good thing
*THERE HAS TO BE A BETTER WORLD THAN THIS* is going to be my single driving statement from now on.
37:46 Being hot was not illegal in 1897. Have you seen the fashion plates of women in walking suits? Also, November, look up Vesta Tilley if you want to see a victorian woman in a frock coat with a monocle.
I have spent the last ten minutes looking at pictures of Vesta Tilley. I think I'm in love.
3:52 Still can’t get over how the first response to this was that the police pulled a gun on him before firefighters were able to pull out fire extinguishers, that whole situation is a microcosm of everything wrong with the US right now
It really brings home that, to the police officer, the gun is a security blanket. He sees something out of his control, he gets scared and confused, out comes the gun.
@@Desi-qw9fc Makes me think back to the video of the officer who pulled his gun because of a falling acorn. It feels like it’s their default response far too often
Liam's utter horror at seeing a picture of Drake's Well is delightful.
HUGE respect to Aaron Bushnell, a man who backed his words with deeds in a way I never, ever could. And I say that as an Australian in whose name an asylum-seeker is still being held, who attempted this to protest their treatment. I admit it, if this is the standard then I'm a coward. Holy shit, Aaron, you will not be forgotten.
I don’t think you should have this for your standard of courage and bravery because I think it can be easily reduced to, “oh, you’re not going to remove yourself from existence? Weak. You must not be a true supporter/ally.”
This is not to minimize Aaron’s actions. It’s to say, self immolation is not the only way to bring change. You can contribute in small ways, too, not just in big, grand gestures like his.
thanks for doing the news yall. we need these jarring shifts in tone or we lose our humanity
1:03:57 - So you're telling me this tree knew it was in Florida, and that eventually there would be Florida Man, so its response was "I double dog dare you".
"diagnosed with tuberculosis"
*John Green has entered the chat*
As someone from St. Augustine, Henry Flagler is, in fact, Florida God. Our delusional selves see FEC as just as important as CSX, and we are all both love him and hate him for making Florida as we know it.
@@nathaniellindner313 Luckily, for all our sakes, Flagler’s name got plastered all over a really boring beach between St.Augustine and Daytona. Flagler Vice in our reality would involve prescription morphine being sold by old people and parties at The Villages, which is a giant retirement community an hour away with an STD epidemic….
@@rulebretgne5244 The Villages is well more than an hour away from Flagler Beach
I think this is a new all time episode. A hot and crazy redhead wife, target seeking hurricanes, the tree that kills you instantly, and even a cameo from podcast favorite Drakes Well!
Incredibly funny that that second news segment came out the day Haley dropped out
90% confident this has been commented already but an april 1st wtypp on a fictional disaster would rule actually (mystery flesh pit national park enjoyer)
That would be a fantastic episode. I sometimes get wires crossed in my head and forget that ISNT already a thing 😂
as a floridian (unfortunately) i am compelled to comment that the everglades are actually flooded grasslands, mangrove swamps compromise pretty much the rest of the state's natural coastline tho
Although parts of the everglades have mangroves in them. It's a trip out there too. I didn't know Florida had fireflies until I went for a walk out there at night.
im going to hell for laughing so hard at ".... guess what kinda tree it turned out to be?"
I'm entirely too old to be this excited about a podcast...but I am. Thank you, again, for making my day!
This is the least shameful thing I get an endorphin rush from these days.
Unless you're too old to build a railway to Keys you are not too old to be excited about a podcast.
Extremely funny to upload this on the day Haley bows to the inevitable and drops out of the contest. Episode been up for an hour and yeah, probably more views than she got votes. Senile Old Man vs Senile Old Man round 2, let's go!
I’m going to work to make sure that it isn’t the old man who wants to ban abortions, have the EPA enforce a Minimum Carbon Footprint, and pass a law making all my LGBTQ friends automatically guilty of p***philia, because I could joke about “getting what we deserve” but a lot of the people he’d victimize (and it’s a long list) don’t actually deserve it
Unrelated to this episode, but as I type this, there sadly appears to be a potential topic for a future WTYP episode taking place in Baltimore Harbor.
2:00:56 Having worked with one of these when I was a front desk at a hotel, I think the term ‘open flame’ doesn’t quite give these machines their due. Imagine a box with vents on 3 sides, a fan and a row of burners. The burners produce 2 foot long flames going up, but the airflow from the fan curves the flame sideways, presumably toward the hot air intake. From the front you can’t see it, but walking along the side or back it always looks like the dryer motor has caught fire.
November Kelly is such a pretty and like,,, satisfying sounding name???
I’ve touched posionwood! It’s a very bad time. The toxin is a phototoxin and it grows in the Keys, so it’s an instant trip to the hospital. I cannot express how correct they are to say it’s a not run tree. Having said that, it’s an important tree for the native ecosystem
Sounds pretty similar to giant hogweed, a relative of which was introduced to the area "because it looked nice"
Hubris of man knows no end
Oh my god, this railroad. I took a class on the environment of the Florida Keys, so we took a trip down there. And I later went back for a vacation. So I've driven there twice, and let me tell you, even the MODERN road/bridge is kind of terrifying. Way too much ocean. And you can look over and see the old railroad/road, which is just incredibly small and rickety-looking. In my class we didn't talk about the actual construction much, only that they eventually built a road on top of the railroad for cars. And when you see the old road it is horrifying. It can't be much wider than a single lane modern road, rickety wooden railings, and there's a line down the middle where they clearly intended people to pass each other. Quite high up in the air, over open ocean. Nightmare scenario.
Thank you for informing me on how much more of a nightmare it was to build. I always love learning the details of these big projects, because history class often doesn't really talk about the HOW of these things getting made.
I also loved your horror over the Manchineel trees. I'd heard of those trees, but didn't realize they were in the Keys. They are a really impressive Fuck You from nature, though.
Ooh, “Nova” as shorthand for “November”?
I love it!
It’s Florida east coast time baby
Thank you for acknowledging Aaron Bushnell.
2:00 “Hello, Rocz, Liam, November, and possible guest. I’m writing to you today to share a story from my time in the exciting world of package delivery. Not the time when I got shot in the head, that’s for another day; this one is about _radio frequencies…”_
29:06 "...shouldnt be a nurse with the last name Shrouds."
I once had to call a Medical Examiner with the last name Graves.
I did once come across a Dr De’ath. He was involved with Oxford University Athletics Club.
theres surgical instruments named after a Doctor Graves lol
also I've met a Dr. Butcher
Strangled By The Bomb Collar is clearly the name of a fantastic punk album
20:40 "There Will be Blood" is set in southern California: it is based on Upton Sinclair's book "Oil!".
"Tied to the poison tree that kills you" sounds like the punishment meted out by an Assyrian king
Yay! Two hours of Justin talking about trains! I got Transport Fever!
this fucking railway is that monty python bit about the castle sinking into the swamp, sinking into the swamp, falling over, burning down, and then sinking into the swamp again
Other good headlines for that section include:
Florida Man 'Flirts' With Passenger By Making Bomb Threat In Airport
Florida Man At it Again, Stole Locomotive for a Joy Ride
Florida Man Worried About Vampires Burns Down His House
Florida Man bets 50k that there would be a streaker during the super bowl, goes to the game and streaks, loses 374k in winnings after bragging about it on the Internet
Florida Man tries to fight person parked in handicapped spot at Wawa, calls 911 on responding officers
What an absolute lad, though. The balls on this guy, to risk getting thrown in jail by streaking during the Super Bowl.
1:55:09 the “hell yeah” in unison is a beautiful thing.
YES A RAILROAD EPISODEEE ITS BEEN SO LONG
Liam's screams at the sight of the Drake Well echo to my childhood.
thanks vember, i have been giggling about "new yorks itty" for longer than is in any way appropriate. that really helped me recover from the gd news.
It's funny to hear them talk about how this is going to be a long one at the start but I can see that this is a mere 2 hour episode, an episode for ants.
The Manchineal tree is one of those fun plants that has tiny needles in its sap. The tiny needles help to get the poison into you.
1:46:56 this is one of the fun things that come up about steam engines from this time period, when floods happen these trains are able to just keep going, especially the flameless locomotives which are a big steam and water filled brick
YES YES THE RAILROAD THAT DIED AT SEA. (I have been thinking about this once a month for like 20 years)
I heard the Milwaukee Road mentioned, and I am excited about that. A tragic failure from promising heights.
I feel your pain on the "call your senators" front. I'm stuck with Chuck Grassley and Joni Ernst.
Hey but if you wanna watch the History Channel with your senator you're set!
Finally, this is my favorite podcast to further my midterm pain! : )
I went on a family trip to key west and one of the first things I saw on the way in was a lady in a sun dress walking a guy in a gimp suit on a leash. it's not something you forget.
Last time I was this early to the podcast, Chernobyl reactor No4 was still standing.
There's a bomb collar documentary. Spoiler (warning, involves cops):
Cops subdued the pleading guy and just let it explode.
Thanks for the all the episodes these past months. They've all been 10/10
The Pacific Extension was not an engineering disaster, but more of a financial one. It was an engineering success, that turning into an anchor around your waist.
2 hours, oh boys/girls/enby pals we are eating well tonight.
Devon, I missed so many of your contributions since you didn't make the hit sound. Include the hit sound if you could, I usually play this while doing something else and I like seeing what you have to say.
49:50 little did you know edge is just chrome in a trenchcoat, November
The idea of an overseas train would be neat if the ocean weren't crazy deep and there wasn't a ton of water pressure at the bottom. It would be a nightmare placing the supports.
UPDATE: Though apparently the railway they're discussing in this episode was over relatively shallow water off the Florida coast.
@@maebhryan3040I wonder how much weight those would be able to support?
Depends. They had them across the Mississippi River but replaced all of them by the mid century. The big problem is a large enough pontoon will need strong anchors to fight current, so it's a "vicious circle".
Theres a railway close to my town that basically floats on a swamp, on logs and a lot of natural infill, it still functions today and has been electrified and modernised.
Hey I did it in Roller Coaster Tycoon and it worked out fine, pricey though. They should have built a roller coaster in the middle of the ocean as well to drive up ridership.
Good luck in the Torment Nexus Devon
Only 2 hours they must be slipping.
The Florida keys did secede briefly once, look up the conch republic
Alligators (or at least crocodillians in general) did live in the arctic like 50 million years ago when the planet wasn't in ice-age mode
51:00 As a south Florida resident whose had the misfortune of being to that area, you're low balling the misquito count tbh. I walked away looking like I had chicken pox
Can't wait to listen to this. Curious what was more bonkers, the Overseas Railroad, the Atmospheric Railway, or the Air-Line Railroad.
pseudosuchia (crocs) split from dinos before dinos were dinos. They have a common ancestor about 230 to 240 million years ago. Archaeopteryx (there's earlier species I forget, but not by much) is 130 to 140 millions years ago. That's "avian" in the strict sense.
Birds are dinosaurs still. They only lost their teeth, gained a pygostyle (tail feather "hub") and a keel in their breastbone.
as a floridian, i am so happy with this whole episode, from the history to the mispronounced isla-morada
November really tried to come in for us with a more correct pronunciation and it was a no
@@CazTenchii can't hold it against them cause it's funny and i have heard much worse while in the keys, i might just start using that pronunciation now😄
To grossly oversimply here: what Disney and his ilk were to post war florida, flagler and his ilk were to pre war florida
"Isla morada" is purple island in spanish.
There indeed exists pictures AND footage of #447, and newspaper photographs of Engineer J.J. Haycraft (who bears an uncanny resemblance to the Medic from Team Fortress 2).. Excellent video
Fun Fact: these days, there is something that can kill and eat an alligator - some Burmese Pythons got released in Florida a few decades back and they're great at eating gators (and a lot of other large animals). It's a pretty nasty environmental disaster.
The mention of the Seaboard Airline made me smile. I grew up in rural SC and would pass an old Seaboard Depot frequently. I think it's a historic landmark now.
Fun FL fact, the Great Freeze is why Orange Park hasn’t had any namesake orange groves in over a century.
Yay Liam, Yay Trains
I love y’all! It’s been a depressing few weeks but tuning in for my favorite podcast always makes me feel a little better ❤
I love how the beeping is given up on by halfway. CZcams's stopped listening by then
the h2g2 quote is officially a recurring bit now
November has a great ring to it!
lol these Florida pronunciations are great; esp. Islamorada pronounced as "IsLAM-o-rad-a"
what a delightful episode! I've been fascinated by the Overseas Railroad ever since my dad described it to me as a young child after he visited Key West (without me). Good job!
Podcast sucks now. All political
xD
When was the last time you watched this podcast it’s been political for like 3 years and that’s like the best part
Live is political 😊
All things is a little
This must be a fan trolling
The fuck do you mean "now"? It's been political for years.