16:16 doesn't make sense because A is a sailboat under power and hence a power vessel, which should give way to B who is under sail. Even if we ignore this, and pretend both vessels are under sail then A is on a port tack and is windward, while B is on a starboard tack and leeward. So A (according to those rules) should give way to B. But then there's the light dilemma, which seems at first like conflicting rules. So can you please explain this?
@@CitySailing 😂 I'm just surprised you mentioned a mine sweeper. Maybe I don't know what kind of a mine sweeper you are referring to? In my mind a mine sweeper is a ship that's clearing military sea mines. So I would be very surprised to see such a ship active today. I know WWII mines can pop up every now and again, but I think most have been cleared by now.
Two vessels under sail... can it happen that the give-way vessel, feeling ungentlemanly, instead of giving way, quickly changes tack, to force the stand-on vessel to become the give-way vessel?
I have just recently taken an interest in sailing so forgive me if this is a stupid question. In the last slide it looks as if boat A has no sails up which may mean it is under power. Power boats give way to sail boats? I'm a little confused.
Excellent presentation. I just don't understand the last example. Wouldn't the sailboat with its sails down which then makes it a powerboat, have to give way to the sailboat?
Hi Paul, suppose you are approaching head-on to a sailing boat with a spinnaker, cannot see their boom, but you are on a starboard tack? In real life I think I'd give a single toot of the horn and turn to starboard, but I'm curious as you only mentioned if we're on a port tack? Thanks! Edit: you answered a few moments later, even if we're on a starboard tack we give way to windward. :)
If you are on port you are stand on, if they are on stbd they will be the windward vessel and you will also be stand on, if you are unaware of their intentions give 5 short blasts, if they do not take avoiding action you must give way.
Difficult to want to finish this when you have rule 1 wrong. What you are referring to as rule 1 could be interpreted as rule2. Sorry as any info that encourages helmsmen to increase knowledge is helpful.
Thanks for your comments, I have blurred out the Rule one reference when we are not explaining rule 1, we appreciate all comments and will rectify videos where we can. Cheers Paul
@citysailing I might be being pedantic here but in the final slide the A vessel looks like it has no sails raised, therefore I would assume that they are under mechanical power so would have to give way to B?
Dear Jack In the final slide if A was sailing B would have to give way, if A was motoring (he is not showing his motoring cone) then B would also have to give way as he can see A's port side. Thank you for bringing this up for discussion and thank you for watching the videos. Cheers Paul
@@CitySailing I'm confused still by this ha. I thought that the list of priorities meant that a motoring vessel had to give way to a sailing vessel, regardless of what way they are approaching each other? Or am I mistaken? (I'm quite new to all of this so just trying to understand, I didn't even know that there was a motoring cone)
@@CitySailing On B the black Upside down cone towards the front halfway up the rigging is the motoring cone? I feel like I may have missed a few of your videos to notice that.
I think the issue in the final scenario is that A is clearly under power and B could be mistaken for being under sail but we know is dual powered with motor and sail because of the motoring cone. Because both are under power, rule 15 (Crossing situation) applies so that B must give way because A is on its starboard side. But if B was sailing only, then A should give way. This is because powered boats give way to sail boats - reg 18. Reg 18 sets out the preceding regulations to which this hierarchy does not apply but this does not include reg 15. Therefore reg 18 takes precedence. I think the diagram intends to show the headsail furled and the main sail loose suggesting, along with the cone, that it is motor powered.
16:16 doesn't make sense because A is a sailboat under power and hence a power vessel, which should give way to B who is under sail. Even if we ignore this, and pretend both vessels are under sail then A is on a port tack and is windward, while B is on a starboard tack and leeward. So A (according to those rules) should give way to B. But then there's the light dilemma, which seems at first like conflicting rules. So can you please explain this?
Both are power vessels, B has a motoring cone up to show it is a power driven vessel.
@@CitySailing In that case, that makes sense. Thank you.
Loving the City Sailing lessons. As a bit of a nerd have spotted - the overtaking rule is no. 13 at least in my copy of the rules.
I will double-check the video when I can, I hope there will be the second part of the DS quiz going up tonight.
Yup you are right, thanks I will amend, we have uploaded a section on the RYA Day Skipper General Exam Quiz in three parts
Thanks for the very clear explanation. Nicely done ✅ I’ll have to watch it a few times to fully absorb it 🤔
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A mine sweeper?! Hell, if it's a mine sweeper, that's international code for turning around and getting as far away as possible 😂😂
Thanks, I have often wondered!!!
@@CitySailing 😂 I'm just surprised you mentioned a mine sweeper. Maybe I don't know what kind of a mine sweeper you are referring to? In my mind a mine sweeper is a ship that's clearing military sea mines. So I would be very surprised to see such a ship active today. I know WWII mines can pop up every now and again, but I think most have been cleared by now.
Two vessels under sail... can it happen that the give-way vessel, feeling ungentlemanly, instead of giving way, quickly changes tack, to force the stand-on vessel to become the give-way vessel?
14:37, B is the windward boat BUT starboard / portside rule trumps windward / leeward rule?
Thanks, really clear and helpful.
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I have just recently taken an interest in sailing so forgive me if this is a stupid question. In the last slide it looks as if boat A has no sails up which may mean it is under power. Power boats give way to sail boats? I'm a little confused.
B has no sails up either. I think youre mistaking the topping lift for a sail. Sp they are both powered vessels.
Excellent presentation. I just don't understand the last example. Wouldn't the sailboat with its sails down which then makes it a powerboat, have to give way to the sailboat?
They are both motor vessels, B can see A's port hand red light, so he has to give way. They are both motorboats.
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@@CitySailing if B has the sails up, how do you identify it as a power vessel?
The motoring cone day-shape indicates it is motor-sailing, @@oliverhansen2784
It’s displaying a black cone which means it is also motoring (yes, with sails up). Video should mention this!
Thankyou big help
Hi Paul, suppose you are approaching head-on to a sailing boat with a spinnaker, cannot see their boom, but you are on a starboard tack? In real life I think I'd give a single toot of the horn and turn to starboard, but I'm curious as you only mentioned if we're on a port tack? Thanks! Edit: you answered a few moments later, even if we're on a starboard tack we give way to windward. :)
If you are on port you are stand on, if they are on stbd they will be the windward vessel and you will also be stand on, if you are unaware of their intentions give 5 short blasts, if they do not take avoiding action you must give way.
@@CitySailing Thanks!
Difficult to want to finish this when you have rule 1 wrong. What you are referring to as rule 1 could be interpreted as rule2. Sorry as any info that encourages helmsmen to increase knowledge is helpful.
Thanks for your comments, I have blurred out the Rule one reference when we are not explaining rule 1, we appreciate all comments and will rectify videos where we can. Cheers Paul
Aviod or avoid?
V good
Thanks
unpowered / row or paddle?
Mechanical propulsion eg an engine , row or paddle is not power driven 👍
@citysailing I might be being pedantic here but in the final slide the A vessel looks like it has no sails raised, therefore I would assume that they are under mechanical power so would have to give way to B?
Dear Jack
In the final slide if A was sailing B would have to give way, if A was motoring (he is not showing his motoring cone) then B would also have to give way as he can see A's port side. Thank you for bringing this up for discussion and thank you for watching the videos.
Cheers
Paul
@@CitySailing I'm confused still by this ha. I thought that the list of priorities meant that a motoring vessel had to give way to a sailing vessel, regardless of what way they are approaching each other? Or am I mistaken? (I'm quite new to all of this so just trying to understand, I didn't even know that there was a motoring cone)
B would give way as he was motoring and A is sailing
@@CitySailing On B the black Upside down cone towards the front halfway up the rigging is the motoring cone? I feel like I may have missed a few of your videos to notice that.
I think the issue in the final scenario is that A is clearly under power and B could be mistaken for being under sail but we know is dual powered with motor and sail because of the motoring cone. Because both are under power, rule 15 (Crossing situation) applies so that B must give way because A is on its starboard side. But if B was sailing only, then A should give way. This is because powered boats give way to sail boats - reg 18. Reg 18 sets out the preceding regulations to which this hierarchy does not apply but this does not include reg 15. Therefore reg 18 takes precedence. I think the diagram intends to show the headsail furled and the main sail loose suggesting, along with the cone, that it is motor powered.
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