Guns N' Roses: Rock Case Studies | Music Documentary | Malcome Dome | Steve Beebee
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- The ultimate review of the life and music of Guns N' Roses and band members; Axel Rose Tracii Guns, Izzy Stradlin, Ole Beich, Rob Gardner, Slash, and Dizzy Reed.
Director: The Creative Picture Company
Stars: Malcome Dome, Steve Beebee, Jonathan Wingate, Paul Elliot
The American hard rock band from Los Angeles, California was formed in 1985. When they signed to Geffen Records in 1986, the band comprised vocalist Axl Rose, lead guitarist Slash, rhythm guitarist Izzy Stradlin, bassist Duff McKagan, and drummer Steven Adler. The current lineup consists of Rose, Slash, McKagan, guitarist Richard Fortus, drummer Frank Ferrer and keyboardists Dizzy Reed and Melissa Reese.
Guns N' Roses' debut album, Appetite for Destruction (1987), reached number one on the Billboard 200 a year after its release, on the strength of the top 10 singles "Welcome to the Jungle", "Paradise City", and "Sweet Child O' Mine", the band's only single to reach number one on the Billboard Hot 100. The album has sold approximately 30 million copies worldwide, including 18 million units in the United States, making it the country's bestselling debut album and eleventh-bestselling album. Their next studio album, G N' R Lies (1988), reached number two on the Billboard 200, sold ten million copies worldwide (including five million in the U.S.), and included the top-5 hit "Patience". Use Your Illusion I and Use Your Illusion II, recorded simultaneously and released in 1991, debuted at number two and number one on the Billboard 200 respectively, and have sold a combined 35 million copies worldwide (including 14 million units in the U.S.). The Illusion albums included the lead single "You Could Be Mine", covers of "Live and Let Die" and "Knockin' on Heaven's Door", and a trilogy of ballads ("Don't Cry", "November Rain", and "Estranged"), which featured notably high-budget music videos. The records were supported by the Use Your Illusion Tour, a world tour that lasted from 1991 to 1993. The covers album "The Spaghetti Incident?" (1993) was the last studio album to feature Slash and McKagan before their initial departure.
Work on a follow-up album stalled due to creative differences between band members; by 1998 only Rose and Reed remained from the Illusion-era lineup. Rose, wanting to expand the band's sound with industrial and electronic elements, enrolled an eclectic lineup of musicians, including punk bassist Tommy Stinson, virtuoso guitarist Buckethead, synth player Chris Pitman and several touring members of Nine Inch Nails, among others. After a decade of work, Guns N' Roses's long-awaited sixth studio album, Chinese Democracy (2008), was released, featuring the title track as lead single. At an estimated $14 million in production costs, it is the most expensive rock album in history. It debuted at number three on the Billboard 200, but undersold industry expectations despite a mostly positive critical reception. Following the expansive Chinese Democracy Tour, Slash and McKagan rejoined the band in 2016 for the Not in This Lifetime... Tour, which became the third-highest-grossing concert tour on record, grossing over $584 million by its conclusion in 2019.
In their early years, the band's hedonism and rebelliousness drew comparisons to the early Rolling Stones and earned them the nickname "the most dangerous band in the world". The band's classic lineup, along with later members Reed and drummer Matt Sorum, was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2012, its first year of eligibility. Guns N' Roses have sold more than 100 million records worldwide, including 45 million in the United States, making them one of the best-selling acts in history.
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I’m watching this with tears rolling down my face. I remember when I had to buy the GNR cassettes for my son because he wasn’t old enough. He had them all. I lost that son last week at the ripe old age of 43. Listening to GNR is my way of remembering the living child and honouring the man he could have been.
Sorry for your loss. We're glad you felt that connection watching this documentary.
Man that's one sad story brother. I'm 41 myself and I can remember my father surprising me with the Use your Illusion one and two albums after coming home from schoo,l it must have been their release day but to me it was just a random day. I was like 11 or 12. My uncle had gave me Appetite for Destruction about 6 months beforehand. GNR for life and beyond! 🙏
I was a huge Michael Jackson fan in the 80s and 90s. One of my closest friends loved GNR and always tried to get me into GNR. Sadly, he was killed at 19 yrs old and as I sit here now in 2024 at 43 yrs old, GNR is my absolute favorite rock band of all time and I have loved this band ever since. I'm sorry for your loss.
Axl was the hardest rocking front man I had ever seen
Absolutely
He is the epitome of what a rock n roll font man is. He is it. No debate needed.
@@jessielakes8118Axl and Bon Scott both.
The first band I ever fell in love with. Larger than life.
They were, are and always be my all time fave band.
Mine too but they tie with Misfits. Guns were big fans of Misfits. Of course guns'n'roses is technically superior. They're better in a lot of ways. But I'm punk rock at heart. So it couldn't be a band alone as my top of all time unless they were punk. But that's just a testament to how much I love Guns N Roses. They were heavily influenced by punk rock. I could sit here and tell you stories how. Go find an old version of My Michelle. It's not hard to find if you look. Axl sounds like he's singing with an English accent. Just like any kid would do the first time they were in a punk band.
GnR’s Appetite for Destruction was or is the most kick-ass, brutally beautiful album that cemented them as one of the only REAL rock bands. There have been more popular rock bands, but GnR just can’t be topped. They were the real deal.
I agree its a masterpiece it was rare to get a album where every single song was great you could play it all the way threw most albums had 1 or 2 good songs on it not appetite it was the perfect album
Trying to find another album in rock that compares to Appetite is not hard to do. It's simply impossible. You know you think, Back in Black, nah just not close enough. Beatles, White Album. No, not there. The Stones, there are a few from them but not one of them can outdo Appetite. We have a winner. No need to keep looking. I've thought on it for hours. Don't waste your time.
There have been more popular bands? I can't think of any in the past 50 years. Maybe the Beatles and Rolling Stones in the 1960s. In the past 50 years, there has been no band that generated more excitement and fan appeal than Guns N Roses. Not U2. Not REM. Not Nirvana. Nobody.
"Motley Crue hadnt written an album a tenth as good as Appetite For Destruction." You're damn straight. And this is coming from a Motley Crue fan. A big fan. Appetite is arguably the best rock album written ever. That's right. By anyone written ever in rock. I dont have to listen to it again ever to decide if I really believe that. That damn album lives in my soul. They didnt miss a lick anywhere. Rock n roll perfection. Will not ever happen again. And it shouldnt. If it does I might cry the rest of my days away.
Appetite for Destruction is definitely in the conversation for greatest rock album of all-time. I'm also a Motley Crue fan and they've written many songs that I love, like Wildside and Primal Scream. However, Motley Crue has never created a full album that comes anywhere close to Appetitie for Destruction.
Its not better than led zeppelin 4 or darkside of the moon
Here's a fun fact. Axl wouldn't get on stage at the Ritz because someone had stole his bandana.
The crew went out in the crowd and a fan gave him the one he wore for the show. I think it was perfect.
Awesome! Thanks for sharing that!
Sounds like a bit of an immature crybaby.
I don’t think this is Cool at all and that it just Shows another Time what an Ass Axl actually is. Refusing to Play because of a Fucking Bandana? Does it get more Bitchy than that? Be Real ......Strip it really down to what it was and think about it for a Second!
First of all ....this Behavior fits to Jennifer Lopez or Madonna and not a Man that tries to Carry the Torch for the Rock N Roll Spirit.
Secondly...it is a Complete Let down of the People that showed up and payed fucking Money for the Show!
Why Romanticizing such a Story or call it Fun ?
It is Indeed Laughable but not in the Favor Of Axl Rose! Part of the Reason why Izzy left, part of the Reason why we don’t get any Original Music other than , at Best, being Medicore!
I heard Axl just forgot a bandana, and they stole it from a crowd member 😂
Actually they didn't steal it. One of the groups people not band members went into the audience and told a fan what was going on and he gladly gave his bandana up
One of the best band ever and one of my favourite band...Rock on
The Illusion albums IMO are have some of the greatest rock songs ever: Estranged, November Rain, Coma & Civil War.
Greatest band ive ever heard. Still to this day. GNR from 1986-1993 greatest prime for any band imo.
I’m guilty of being too judgmental regarding Axl Rose.
I was critical of the way he treated fans and band members.
I now realize Axl had a much more abusive upbringing that I knew about.
Over time Axl worked with a therapist and has made a lot of progress.
After many year’s he was able to reconcile with his band mates, Slash, Duff and the other’s and have gone on to give great concerts.
Now he respects the integrity of each band mate and it shows.
People are a bit harsh when he comes to Axel’s obvious weight gain.
No one stay’s the same, he’s lost a lot of weight in recent months.
He seems to have a stable family life.
His partner clearly loves him and he loves his step children.
I am very thankful and happy Axl has changed for the better.
He does not have a partner or a love affair as far as I know
See Tom you matured and stopped judging Axl - we don’t know exactly all he went through. I am just great full he’s still here - he appears to have fun on stage, his voice may not be all
there but the man isn’t 20 anymore…..and it’s ok to get fat and ok to get older….NOT everyone is that lucky. Just tired of people bitching and moaning about him….it’s freaking Axl Rose 🌹……..I think he’s genius.
His partner loves him and he loves his step children!Lol Axel is straight sec orientation.He has his partner and she loves him
@@renatohebeja2665 Again who is his partner, cause as far as I know he doesn't have a relationship, at list a offical one.
@@alexandrapopa4405 I meant something else,read it carefully what I wrote.Anyways he hangs around with a couple of girls at the present,so all of them are his girlfriends
Appetite, nevermind and definitely maybe are best albums!
The comentators are way of. Illusions are as iconic as appetite is, just a different vibe.
Loved them, during their Use Your Illusion days I was about 15, the perfect age for their best era - just "my time" and my opinion, I'm sure some would disagree! I loved Appetite and Lies too. My bedroom walls were covered in posters, mostly Axl of course 😍😍
I bought Faith by George Michael, Kick by INXS and Appetite for Destruction by G&R that year 😂 Spot on!
I lived it....best time of my life
Myself as well.
And me….what a loss for the millennials
I kinda lived it too..I was born in 1980 and saw gnr live in -92. I just wish I was born couple of yrs before so i could saw the original with steve and izzy!! Great band it was though.
But mine favourite was/is Alice in chains!! LONG LIVE LAYNE STALEY!!! Can relate with it due to my opiate addiction. Currently at Methadone maintanance programm for yrs now..
But hey, no regrets, it is what it is..
Edit. Fucking lie, regret so much, Just found my twin brother dead by overdosing. Can't take ut anymore. My twin, my best Fucking friend. I have this urge to go and buy 2grams of gear and go find my brother, where ever he is...
THIS IS TOOO MUCH TO DEAL WITH!!!!! Goodbye..
Peace, love, emphaty
- J
And don’t forget if Slash could get through 1992 you can get through today🤦🏾♀️💉🎸🎩
Just for today
damn right. with the right dose of heroin in your system, anything is possible.
In Slash’s book I remember him talking about a few days at a golf resort where he od’d on speedballs, and totally trashed the joint. He was lucky to survive.
In my opinion, Appetite For Destruction is the best rock album ever written. And Guns N' Roses is the biggest, most exciting rock band of the past 50 years. When Use Your Illusion 1 & 2 first came out in 1991, there had never been that kind of buzz and excitement for a new album since the Beatles. They transcended hard rock and heavy metal and expanded their fan base to millions of people who had no interest in that type of music, which no band this heavy has EVER done. That is the true measure of their greatness. I believe Guns N' Roses will go down in history as the greatest rock band of all time.
It must have been 1987 before they were famous and they came through a small town near mine. Axel did a hilariously obnoxious interview with a local reporter, the band crashed the after prom crowd that had gotten into the night club, scaring the crap out the high school girls and leaving the locals shaking their heads at music they couldn't even describe. Three months later they were on MTV. A friend of mine who was in a local rock band was there to see it and maybe one of the few people who appreciated the talent these guys had.
Which town? I'd love to see that Interview, lol.
@@Slatrelle Burlington Iowa. The paper was called the The Burlington Hawkeye. If I'd only know I'd kept it lol.
@@altcoin5631 Yeah that sucks! that's a cool story! I can just see an unknown axl in 87 yelling with his high pitch voice and doin the snake to a bunch of stuck up midwest HS snobs, LOL. Id loved to have seen their faces at the club. I love hearing stories like that. Thanks for the laugh!
Axl and gnr opened for the crue in Chattanooga Tennessee in 87 there is a interview Axl did with a reporter from Japan I believe. I was at the show
I'm glad to see that Wes Arkeen's name was shown in the writing creits.
Axl said "he's the sixth member of the band". He pasted away some years ago. R.I.P.
to be exact 1997 so a long time ago R.I.P West Arkeen´s by overdose
@@Dave_Albright I'm not sure if it's in his book, but Duff has spoken on West a few times and he might have made that comment also. I just think it's sad that I found West two years ago, three at the most.
@@Dave_Albright Duff said he was always around at shows and their practice place.I've talked to a guy that knew him and he sounds like a cool dude. I would've wanted him around.
OUTSTANDING DOCUMENTARY ON A GREAT BAND. THANK YOU.
In 2009 I saw guns n Roses. I was a skinny guy back then. The crowd picked me up from the back of the standing room, I crowd surfed to the front where I was thrown at axl rose. Our eyes met, he pointed right at me as I flew threw the sky. I was caught mid air by security who told me not to do that again. Great moment, but I didn’t have much of a choice lol. I was 140 pounds of feathers.
LOL "motley Crue never made an album a tenth as good" TRUTH !
Izzy and Slash were the whole sound with Axl over top. Duff and Steven had the punky bottom end.
Great documentary they also did another documentary where the documentarians of this documentary each take you on their own personal journeys following their live’s and how their life’s commitment to celibacy has affected them and the ones that they love around them❤❤❤
Nice Concert ... 👍👍👍🏻
The amount of facts they got wrong in this documentary is astounding
Que pena que não é legendado esse documentário..😢
The Illusion albums get a bad rap. People complain they are full of filler, but other than two basically identical versions of Don’t Cry and the experimental My World, no one can agree on what the filler is. Coma? Awesome. Locomotive? Brilliant. Double Talking Jive? Could have been on Appetite. Heck, the guy in this doc said he loved Dust N Bones and that’s one I don’t like as much as the others.
Hello ,use you’re house keys number one was the favorite one of mine , I actually bought it because the blue cover , but I was so glad I picked it out as Knock knock knocken on heavens door was not my cup of tea . I like the crazy side of things 😊
They were/are the real life Spinal Tap, but turned up to 11.
One album missing 'Chinese Democracy' would love to find out more about it. Otherwise, cool production, thanks!
Alguem coloque uma legenda nesse documentário por favor?😢
I really hate how their dissing Steven Adler. To me and to the 99% he did well to fill the drums
i could only wish to make an album half as successful as Appetite. that's the best album ever released, not even in rock n roll. screw master of puppets, reign in blood, rust in peace, dr. feelgood, girls, girls, girls, etc.
Appetite is the pinical bluesy, hard, druggy rock n roll album, and nothing can come close to it's reputation and success
Yup I agree I still remember the day I bought my cassette tape for AFD and taking it to my Z28 and being floored from the first notes of Jungle. It was awesome I wore that tape right out played it over and over all day long everyday cruising around and partying 👍🏼😎
Correct, G N'R blows Motley Crue out of the water. Even in 2023 G N' R is still the undisputed King's of Rock-n-Roll. The only band from that era that is still a very, very close second is Metallica - who is remarkably turning out some kick ass music in 2023! 🤘🏾
Izzy❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Every time I talk about gnr…with my friends we always go into the conversation of…what could have been…the next Rolling Stones the next Led Zeppelin…it’s a shame it ended to soon
After Illusion, that was kinda it. That's a waste of talent
Best rock band ever. Original lineup only. Only those 5 original ingredients made it special. They had the sound the look and yhe style. They lived it they didnt fake it. They set the new bar. Every other band couldn't do what they did. And btw they were best between 85 threw 90. When izzy left nope no good no more. Thats how important each guy was
19:28 Hell houses their struggle to live.
20:08 Slash wearing some clothes for 3 weeks.
GODBLESS U ALL ALWAYS ❤️💖. GUN'S ROSE'S
Did anyone else notice through the years most Guns and Roses videos appeared to be a memorial to Axl Rose's death?
when i hear the word “overbloated” i think of gn’r in the 90’s
"A song with whilstling in it which can only be a good thing." ...ok. Jajajaaa !!
Guns N Roses read backwards sounds like ..."Scissor N Snug" 🤣
The live like a suicide wasn't live at all. It was an audience track to make it appear live.
Frontman axl rose woow amazing and fantastic hot and sexy woow the band Guns N Roses the best ever 😘😘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
Too bad no one helped the bandmembers when they heeded it most.
Once Guns became a money machine someone should have tried to help with the bands high level of alcohol and drug abuse.
I blame their management, the promoters anyone cranking out the big pay day's from this band.
Seems to me somebody should have provided advice for when they hit big success.
Instead they were left on their own to implode.
RIP to Malcolm Dome, the slightly nerdy guy with the bald head and glasses, poor dental.
In the past I made unfair comments about him.
I Regret it especially after finding out he passed away not long ago..
Currently the Guns have been playing and thankfully they are more mature and can better deal with the past, present and future.
Magic in a bottle 💯 proof
I thought the first ep had an audience added in after the fact
That's exactly what was said in this documentary ...
4:29 I disagree, i feel like the most important element of guns and roses WAS steven. Look at it this way when they replaced steven you had an entirely different guns and roses. Their whole sound changed and not for the good! I play guitar and i love slash but when steven was gone the REAL guns ended. Of course they had huge success when they fired him but that would have happened at that point if a monkey was on the kit. I hated that use your illusion over produced sound. And i hated those songs. To me they were a one album band. And that appetite for destruction sound was tied to Steven.
Crazy to me how Guns N Roses still gets this Attention. GNR now isn’t half as Good as Back then. Still waiting for a Song that Raises my Eyebrow!
What da fuck are you doing here then ?
Were do we go isn't about a girl it's because they didn't have anymore of the song so he just kept saying were do we go and producers liked it
Actually, they finished recording what they had and Axl said "where do we go now?" and Mike pointed at Axl and said "THATS IT"
And the rest was history
@@infectedpuddle1638 naw. It's about the "breakdown" in the song to the next part, musically 🎵. They didn't know where to go from that breakdown in the song, so Axl sang asking the band/producers/himself "where do we go now" so they figured out where to go from the breakdown, musically, and just left the words in bc it worked.
@@miltontohd5368 Um......You're wrong
You nailed it: GnR was done when Steven got the boot. The band turned into to some kind of bloated parody of a band with all the production elements that had nothing to do with the band that created Appetite. The good news is we can all watch videos of them before the wheels came off. They will never have the reckless disregard for authority and the out of control lifestyle again. I liken it to how The Rolling Stones changed from a kick*SS blues band into a boring cover band after kicking Brian out. He was the real talent and the others were jealous. He wasn’t a very nice person but he had more ability in his little finger than all the others together. I stopped listening to them after Brian left. The phrase ‘stinks on ice’ comes to mind. All they have is staying power.
I hear blah blah blah - thanks! 🥳
Steven was a his own worst enemy, he couldn’t keep it together and blamed all his problems on everyone else instead of owning up. I miss him but can understand why he was let go. He had plenty of chances.
@@matt8264 He did and his addiction caused him to blow it. Addicted people have to really come to terms with their problems and admit they have a problem and stop using. Otherwise the cycle repeats itself until an end of one kind or another. 🫥
So you obviously know nothing about the rolling stones? The stones done there best four albums after Brian and no covers apart from love in vain?
Slash already said it was not a flook sweet child he wrote it over a long time
16:57 AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICED THIS
Admiro admiro admiro al que no le gusta Bay
Je sais vraiment je l'aime beaucoup la musique mais je manque les moyens économique pour répondre à tous les besoins de développement
Imagine if Izzy would've stayed in the band and Axl wouldn't have been so screwed up and overbearing. Izzy contributed A LOT of writing and playing talent to GNR. Axl was the main reason everything fell apart. You can see how productive each member was after the end of the Use Your Illusions tour. Izzy started his own band, Slash started putting out solo material, as well as Duff, and Gilbey Clark. Matt Sorum wrote and played on Slash's and Gilbey's solo work. Then you had Velvet Revolver which was awesome material. Steven kind of screwed himself. There was A LOT of cool music put out by Slash, Izzy, Duff, and Sorum, which would have easily been new GNR albums, but Axl (for some WEIRD reason) wanted to sound like all the other trashy shitty music that came out in the 90's, like Nine Inch Nails and such. That music SUCKED!!! GNR was a ROCK BAND, and that the kind of music those other guys were STILL making. Chinese Democracy sucked because it didn't have the combination of those original members writing and contributing. Not that any of this matters much with what's going on in the world like the fake pandemic, multinational corporations, trying to instill global fascism and kill over 90% of the world's population through starvation and deadly bio weapon "vaccines". I guess music is important because it gives you an outlet to vent and an escape mentally for at least a small amount of time. Nobody is perfect and everything always changes. At least all of them had that chemistry for a little while.
John Pierce. It's cool you got your opinions on the band and how they feel apart. And its cool if you feel Axl killed the band trying to sound like music you think is crap. There actually is a lot more to the story and who's to blame and whatever. It's your view and that's fine and even good for a debate or two. But stop with the conspiracy crap. Honestly. It's not cool to bring politics and ideologies into a discussion on a rock band. No one wants to discuss that shit here, no matter their leanings. Let's have a discussion about the topic of the video.
@@auntiewewe972 Well sorry to burst your perceived security bubble, but it's people like you that has allowed us get this far down the road to tyranny and destruction. What do think the song "Civil War" is about?? Neither you, the government, nor the corrupt pedophyles who control our corrupt government will dictate what is appropriate and acceptable to me. Now go back to sleep and pretend that none of this is happening. Like I said, this is a fun distraction, but none of it, including my opinions on music, really matter with the satanic evil controlling and destroying everything. Sorry to have disturbed your oblivion to reality.
This is a Wendy’s, sir
@@ryanjavierortega8513 Haaaaaa!!!!! That one kind of went over my head Pard.
@@auntiewewe972 exactly…….WELL SAID
This one dude talking about fans not wanting what GNR became with November Rain yet its arguably their most popular and legendary song. Yeah they imploded and never reached their true potential BUT this guy acts like their music suffered. No no no! The music got better. The illusion albums are filled with amazing music. With Appetite they wrote songs about their life and their lifestyle. Well….in illusions they did as well. They were rich rockstars living a different life than what they were living during AFD. Bands get shitted on for trying to duplicate their first succesful album. GNR didnt. They were an ambitious band, especially Axl.
Utter bollocks that Adler couldn't do the drum fills. They'd have been good as well. Matt's were the most boring bit of the show. Steven wasn't so wasted he couldn't play! Slash & Duff were on way more Heroin than Steven but bang at it on Crack & Booze. Yet Slash played the theme from the Godfather perfectly off his face! Izzy was a heroin addict & got clean on tour. Steven was the scapegoat so the other 3 (especially Duff & Slash) could be the major Junkies & Alcoholics they were! Izzy was the ultimate songwriter & talent of the band. Axl destroyed his own kingdom with his greed in shades of Tony Montana & like Tony Montana He symbolically killed his most loyal & NEEDED sidekick! I Love the Humility of Izzy & Steven & I love the fact Izzy wouldn't back down to Axl at his worst, even now.
Watching MTV one day as a young teen they played the music video Paradise City Smack i was a fan, BU the Spaghetti incident had only a handful of songs i liked then the Rolling Stone cover Sympathy for the devil was alright broke up...1999 End of Days soundtrack had " Oh My God " on it Axl only original member sucked and then the loooooooooooooooooooooooong ass waiting for that pile og crap Chinese Democracy and now Axl cant sing i had high hopes for GN`R after Slash and Duff rejoined but hearing Mickey Mouse singing yeah Axl sounds like crap now sadly
I saw them At Eastern Creek Raceway - Sydney Australia 🇦🇺 When I was 14 years old 😂👌🌟❤️💥it was January 1993- There were 80’000 people there and it was FUCKEN Insane 😂😂🕺💥💥look on CZcams 👍❤️
Hilarious for a music journalist, the biggest dorks in the world, to call the drummer of a hugely successful rock n roll band a dork
So many bald dudes talking about "hair metal". The irony is the most corrosive part
Sorry i disagree. Axl was great but if you get too big britches. There sre many great NEW singers are as good. He killed guns n roses.
Kurt was the best .
Bunch of BS...crappy vid. One or another interesting music analysis but thats it.
I lived it....best time of my life