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分享我們痛苦的經驗。請裝修師傅有咩要小心？裝修前要做什麼準備功夫？怎樣避免比裝修師傅騙？UK cowboy builders stories.
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- Today we talk about our difficult experiences with builders and tradesman in the UK when dealing with any sort of renovations. 英國裝修師傅好唔掂？
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我哋啱啱用咗3個星期renovate 個bathroom. 初初都諗咗好耐搵邊間公司，最終就係怕唔識啲中小企，搵咗B&Q。工程超順利！個師傅超好，不過我真係日日有喺屋企睇住佢，而有咩特別嘅嘢B&Q都會跟進，雖然都有少少溝通上嘅問題，但完全係英國人style 果種可接受嘅。最後佢一開始上嚟做survey 認為要做嘅嘢最終無需要做都主動退返錢俾我，所以搵大公司可能會貴少少，但起碼佢唔會走佬先🤣（如果B&Q都執得我自己唔好彩啦🤪） Boiler 就用一間網上公司 Heatable, 感恩都係順利一日完成🙏🏼 多謝你哋分享，的確聽太多朋友俾人呃錢😢 你哋嘅資訊真係好中肯好實用👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
真係學到好多嘢！有機會希望Steve Fei 可以分享下關於投訴嘅英文，點樣禮貌得黎又可以表達不滿叫人做返好啲嘢
如果生仔係十級痛苦，我諗係英國搵builder裝修係十一級痛苦，遇著cowboy 你就叫天不應叫地不聞
The trade was suppose to use a motorise sod cutter to remove the old grass and the roots. Put treated timber as a barrier around the area where the synthetic turf would be laid. Put a layer of crush rock (road base) as a base layer, then use a roller to compact the surface. Then place a layer of sand on top, then use the roller to compact and level the finishing surface. Only after the base is properly done, then lay the synthetic turf.
我平時裝修會自己做, 有時自己嘅手工可能做得冇咁好, 但自己可以買到d好料返黎同埋自己做平好多!
Very down to earth and useful advices. My experience here in the UK somewhat reconfirms what is said in the video. Thank you for sharing your experience.
Really love the way you explained these painful experiences. Funny but very educating!
好喜歡Faith, 永遠好有笑容
Thank you for your reminder and advice 👍💐
喺英國裝修真係一個好慘痛嘅經歷。 本身諗住慳錢直接同佢哋deal, 點知搞到一鑊粥。 最後都係畀錢搵consultant先搞掂， 不過唔開名啦 因為樓上都有人提過佢嘅名。
All the contractors are the same, you would experience the same here in the US. I do almost everything myself as I’m interested to learn fixing everything. I basically remodel my entire house by myself.
Thank Stevo and Faye for your really useful information.👍
阿菲今日帶頭巾好鬼靚，靚爆鏡 🤩
多謝你們影片分享裝修不快事件，等我們多多留意。👍👍
🙏🙏🙏 Thank u so much Faye & Steveo ~
世界在敗壞💩
事事防不勝防！
只有自求多福。
謝謝分享喜與樂
香港人加油🙏
係英國住左1年..2個月....D 人做野...無樣岩...樣樣都令人好勞氣.
退一步想香港人以後在這裡一定大把世界, 做乜都一定掂掂掂, 超高競爭力。
啲人覺得英國係美夢，係有現實一面的
Well done and welcome to the real world 🌎 Thank you for sharing. Sharing and encouraging 😂😂😂
其實真係好難搵，就算quote 啱價，手工都冇保證⋯⋯
謝分享~有伏位地方~~真係幫到好多人不識攪工程~~價碼~~
我好在買大公司boiler,再比每年維修去check boiler ，今年那個來，不足10 分鐘就走，之後去沖涼冇熱水，原來佢整壞咗！😡即時打電話去customers service 投訴,竟然話那個是外判😮好彩即刻笫二朝早派回自己公司的engineer 來更換兩樣新零件😂最後我有賺😂所以貴些都要選擇大牌子大公司。
不幸之中大幸
其實一般本地人多數買唔洗乜裝修啲單位原因就係咁，最多重新油油簡單項目。香港人買樓鍾意全拆全新裝修，呢道唔係咁玩法的，何況新移民唔知頭唔知路難度更升級(唔係話stevo同菲)
Thank you for sharing the painful experience with those bad builders in UK. You need to watch them daily and closely. Plus don't pay any in advance or you walk out with those bad builders. Too many bad builders are in UK.
Thanks for sharing
Thanks hope you find it useful!
據我小小知識，boiler因用電大，要從電箱直接拉電，鋪草皮要有斜水及壓實的地，後鋪沙,再舖草。看似簡單，還是有很多細節位。英國不是要有牌才可以做嗎？在外國，要自己動手做，都是樂趣。
Tradesmen are really inconsistent...very troublesome...
There should be tighter regulations, standards and apprenticeship programs before they could go out and take jobs.
Thanks so much for sharing! Really helpful and practical 👍🏼👍🏼great content! Love it👍🏼👍🏼
增長知識👍
thank you 😀😀😀😀😀😀
我覺得英國的builder 或裝修佬好多都係cowboy, 好似同客人鬧交係工程的一部份咁。
有次裝修地板，油牆連料，£7OOO多，佢要求收一半至開工，俾咗£3500 後唔見人，之後連 office 都執埋，我欲哭無淚。
另一次是舖地板，工作做了大半，已將地板逐少搬回van 中，完工剩下的幾塊，我要求留下日後可修補，但他居然說這些多餘的地板不在價錢中，吵了一輪也於是無補。
又有一次裝修花園圍欄，報價和材料大家都同意，但開工拆哂舊圍欄時，才發覺新的材料是非常cheap 的物料，與報価的有天淵之別，做定唔做，go ahead or not, 完全冇選擇！
英國的裝修是場場悪夢，所以現在除非不已都不會做，可恨是：作為消費者，咁大筆款項我哋都冇受法律保障，俾佢哋禁住嚟搶！
其實一般本地人多數買唔洗乜裝修啲單位原因就係咁。香港人買樓鍾意全拆全新裝修，呢道唔係咁玩法的
@@0_-EL 但始終有一日都要維修㗎，唔係個個都識diy!
@@knaohara9099 住落先慢慢嚟，要知道呢度裝修點玩法，一移過嚟就做大龍鳳，新移民乜都唔知好易中招，有啲人帶香港果套過嚟行唔通的，同情你遭遇，如果只係口頭對話想追討好難
@@0_-EL 🤣🤣🤣我唔係新移民，在英國已經住咗幾十年，但每次遇到的builder ，衰多過好，除非大公司，価錢貴好多，同埋佢哋唔會接細工程
@@knaohara9099 所以咪話囉，連住咁耐都咁樣，新移民可想而知。但係咁多年唔多唔少都遇到啲好builders卦？
其實家庭裝修工程真係無分國界 勞氣到大嗌
英國係咁㗎，乜都慢吞吞又貴，好難請到好裝修工人，因為佢哋有樣學樣，激到暈…。 住耐啲就慣啦⋯⋯
It’s valuable inf . Thx for sharing 👍🏻
謝謝分享🙏🏻🙏🏻
謝謝分享👍👍
講到裝修就一肚子氣!😡第一日來開工就快到你唔信，拆Q晒先，之後就一個星期都唔見有人開工……美國呢度如果你搵同聲同氣既就係全部都係大6人，除了工頭、全部多數都係半桶水！🙄識D唔識D又大聲扮曬嘢！成日做曬之後又要改😡仲要等佢地來兩日又停三日，因為佢地同一時間騎著幾間屋，又請唔到人來做，就算生手都要二$300美元一日，這是我6年前裝修嘅問題…. 現在我女兒間屋係三年前就開始準備裝修嘅情況…今次係請本地鬼佬嚟做…. 問題係一樣，裝修工人轉型了…全部都係墨西哥人，情況都係一肚子氣，做錯又改，改完又改…話咗來又唔見人，唉！
謝謝分享🙏🙏🙏
D度D工程，好多時都有難尾，走佬咁，幾個朋友也中過招
從來無諗過英國嘅技工，攞哂牌，但水準咁Q差😔
Thank you for sharing the experience and all the advices ❤
Thx
好喜歡睇你們的Video 可以知道英國的裝修佬有幾差，我夏天的時候搵建築老換Facia board and Gutter，講好價錢，2星期後就來換，換左屋頂第一件Facia board 佢就同我講，佢哋吾鐘意我老公睇住佢地做嘢，因為有壓力，大佬你整緊我間屋，點解吾可以睇！
朋友經驗：搵A師傅幫佢搞屋頂（專做屋頂的公司），知我朋友要全屋裝修，就主動話幫佢接成個工程黎做，一個價錢幫佢搞掂晒咁話。
結果手工差其一，最慘㡳一半工作都未完成就走左佬，當時已經比左7成錢。
Thank you so much😊
又再稙入發哥😂
我去Checkertrade揾到Chalk Build一百八十幾個positive comments, 結果一個2房單位5個月之後正式爛尾！
後來換了倫敦東香港人開的BCCD一樣死，佢話因為我爛尾要俾75%先開工，期間不停開單話找數，收晒錢之後呢樣唔做嗰樣唔做就走咗，到依家都唔退返錢俾我！所以一定要睇路！
我懷疑人人都可以寫評價， 大部份都係呃人！
BCCD出名呃人架
真係香港人騙香港人
good video mate
Thanks
呢條片，Stevo 好多時舉起雙手describe the ceiling or something, 好似舞獅頭咁👍😂
如果擔心裝修過程俾師傅呃, 要搵專業嘅項目管理人員同consultant, 唔好慳嗰少少錢。
已經搵咗所謂Contract administration/Project Manager 但佢哋係根據工程總值收取大約3%服務費，咁樣反而成為默許工程報價吾清吾楚，最後不斷超支的誘因。
我間屋有個擴建部分，買賣時前業主提供文件證明，白紙黑字有十年保養，一年未到，發現玻璃屋頂漏水及其他問題，揾該間工程公司安排維修保養，但從未應過機，冬天雨量大增，都唔知點算！
我都係香港朋友裝修完話個builder好，所以就揾佢裝修自己間屋，又做加建。最後發覺佢手工極差，仲要地板下面水管無接駁妥當，水管漏水漏到連地板都發漲我哋先發現問題(未入住前唔駛用水所以發覺唔到)😭😭😭撬開個地板見到好似水浸咁，仲塞滿建築癈料同垃圾。鄰居叫我哋去local citizens advice 投訴，不過唔知有無用，又驚佢會報復😵😵真係好激氣😡😡
Citizen advise 呢D地方只提供投訴方法和程序，你自己都可以上網搵到，但賠償就好難囉
大家好
Hi Simon welcome!
英國裝修過程真係好痛苦！簡直人都顛🙄🙄🙄我依家都裝修緊，完全認同你哋講嘅瀨嘢位😣😣
在海外要學習自己做，我在美國時，就比較方便，現在瑞士比較難找物料，但都可以全部自己做，因為安裝一個燈都要50-80美元。
其實一般本地人多數買唔洗乜裝修啲單位原因就係咁。香港人買樓鍾意全拆全新裝修，呢道唔係咁玩法的
both of you so funny😆😆
其實做裝修要比啲錢consultant 或manager 好啲 失望係為慳少少錢嘅cost
開始時要list out 所有item 係contract
仲要擺低retention money
Setup DLP
what's DLP? data lost protection 🤣
DLP = Defect liability period
英國好少咁玩法
多謝菲😇Stevo你上次有冇埋身同古生講開戲要比d角色你做!你直頭要演戲 MK一絕🤣😂江湖講數⚒️
😂
第一次睇爾個channel，有趣。
Steve識書寫中文？
香港好多人信這些師傅做嘢，但真的未聽過沒有出事，真的要有人看著怎做
請問英國文化習慣是否無論大小工程，builders都吾願意白紙黑字做各項細節報價？搞到開工後出現不斷超支要求，令我哋業主大失預算！😉🙏
You have to push for the quotations… there might be some unknowns but they should be upfront about it .
可唔可以自己寫scopes, 俾啲簡單specification佢，要佢agree?
@@hkerc It depends what you are doing they should provide you with the quotes
@@hkerc I think you can provide your own scope and ask for confirmation that the quotation has covered all the scope items. Also you can use your scope items as discussion during the quotation process
自己絕對可以提出條款，對方同意咪得
你哋都遇咁多問題，我哋新嚟嘅真係聽天由命，真係唔敢搵裝修師傅。
其實一般本地人多數買唔洗乜裝修啲單位原因就係咁。香港人買樓鍾意全拆全新裝修，呢道唔多咁玩法的
全宇宙嘅獅虎都係一樣㗎！
You can totally report that technician with that water heater incident. I’d be more patience if he didn’t lie but he was lazy and not knowing what to do. Totally unprofessional and you shouldn’t need to pay for anything. That’s total BS.
Hello可否分享一下英國程屋注意事項及程序，如在倫敦搬到另一區怎樣看屋等等。
裝修佬不論國藉百分之八十專搵笨🤣
Should always write down a contract, they will be more aware. Hard to find a good contractor.
多謝分享🙏🏻
我喺英國買咗新樓出年收屋，短期不會移民住，要遙距訂傢俬，想請教有冇乜嘢心得從何入手，選擇乜嘢網站要注意啲乜嘢🙏🏻🙏🏻
日日請假睇住佢地，不如自己做一份 lol
Hi thank you for sharing. Do you have any one who you can recommend? Thank you
我搵人嚟清潔天台， 總數350磅， 我畀咗70磅deposit， 條友直情 no show, 多多藉口, 又話落雨又話老婆 架車壞咗, 又話工程車爆呔🤬🤬🤬🤬
sorry to hear about your poor experience and thanks for sharing....No show 算係小事最衰搞彎咗你間屋唔知搵邊個整
@@MovingSocks2.0 咁又係, 而家問咗隔離鄰舍, 用邊間好啲😥
香港工人？
可以自己做就最好，
買些工具之後也可以用。
一星期做些，
繼續做就可以成為大師愽。
自己做更珍惜那地方。
@@passportbritish7195 英國😥
天下烏鴉一樣黑!
係天下裝修一樣黑
😊
請問如果係出租單位要維修，係由租客定業主「監工」？如果係業主，就冇得扮請飲咖啡實情係監工。
補充：Chalk Build 揾咗間Finishing Touch Property Refurbishment即判上判開工，老細 Kad 土耳其人除咗快手之外一無是處，樣樣識少少，不停整爛材料，而且每天只做4-5個鐘就拉隊走，仲要不停喺間屋食電子煙， 鑽牆鑽斷電鑽咀索性連鑽咀都唔拎出嚟……
I wonder if you have a licensed contractor. People in the trade know you have to prepare the ground properly before you put on artificial turf.
❤
好危險‼️咁裝電器好大鑊喎有乜事會死人架
其實係要搵 project manager 跟
咩consultant 姐⋯⋯
天下烏鴉一樣黑
Hi 吖菲 你個窗簾好靚 係咪你揀gar？ 想問下你係邊度買？ Thank you😊
8:31 wrong hole 😂😂😂😂😂😂
大公司嘅師傅係咪都係外判？
冇錯，多數係啲 contractor
⋯MK仔進化為水魚。😂😂
對裝修無認識嘅話睇住又有乜用？嗰師傅話要鑽窿先至做到嘢你俾唔俾佢鑽？佢鑽錯左然後話經你批准所以唔關佢事咁又得唔得？
咁其實英國人的integrity 普遍都麻麻地，以前的香港好好多！
盡量唔好對英國人有偏見，不過組裝掃嗰啲心態我哋所叫嘅Blue Collar worker諗嘢係好short term.好嘅有心機又有唔好嘅又有.
@@MovingSocks2.0 你哋幾年前條片講英國地產代理個個都乜嘢都應承，又話間屋一定好快賣出，到最後乜嘢都做唔到。而家你哋又講裝修嘅各樣問題，我好強烈覺得英國其實都好多陷阱。人嘅誠信同責任感都好有問題。我唔係偏見。以前香港好好多。我自己喺香港買過幾次樓，裝修師傅全部都做得好企理。
@@catdaddymeow 咁你真係好好彩，我揾親友同我閒屋裝修，佢判一部份出街，结果差D爛尾，我瞓咗地下一個月，好彩最後搞掂，但超無奈。所以揾裝修同中六合彩一樣。
@@catdaddymeow General work ethic is different some industries are better here in UK and some are better in HK.
香港人聽得唱好英國太多，個個移過嚟都開個頻道吃渴玩樂，有啲嘢住落至知，stevo只不過係分享事實啫
can we have a glance of the letter, please?
Keep up strong positive moving socks 😅
買material可唔可以叫佢攞quotation? 寫明qty 同送貨地址， 貨到俾錢
Yes you can and you should...
香港咁做 都會收10% hanging change
一般比咗錢至送貨
@@K1982Knot HK anymore
可唔可以問下你哋客廳嘅牆身顏色係咩色呀？好靚呀😊
慘事講到咁好笑。😆
點解UK d boiler咁Q貴既😂
英國人都坑英國人，我地兩個香港人，仲要英文麻麻地，都唔知點算。
🙏🏻多謝分享🙏🏻
可以分享埋complaint email 嗎？
想知道點寫封email 有禮貌地表達不滿然後有人更進😅🙏🏻
咁其實Boiler應該幾年先換？
😛
👏👏🙏🙏💪💪🥰🥰🥰🥰
😭👍🏻
What is "track it trade" you mentioned? Is it a website
Check-a-trade
我想係屋企装個 stove, 有冇人識?
All you need is an interior designer like me, haha 🤣😬
Are you builder as well ？
@@0_-EL as mentioned, interior designer
@@HKHKTT that’s why I’m asking 😄
可否share封complaint email？想學吓嘢
that would be awesome!
我都想知🙏🏻
自己上youtube學自己得閒搞啲慳返勁多
即使整衰咗都係自己，整好就慳返錢