How Much Did Robodebt Cost?
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
- The Robodebt Royal Commission was costly, but that expense was tiny compared to the cost of the Robodebt Scheme. This video runs through the numbers.
There's also an update on the National Anti-Corruption Commission's decision not to investigate the Robodebt referrals.
Links:
Video on NACC decision not to investigate Robodebt: • NACC Who? An Update on...
NACC Inspector: www.naccinspec...
Royal Commission into Robodebt: robodebt.royal...
Some previous Robodebt videos:
Robodebt explainer series: • What is Robodebt? (Exp...
Robodebt Royal Commission summaries: • Robodebt Royal Commiss...
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Morrison should have gone to jail ......People committed suicide over this
Not only Morrison
Every Member of the public service who took part and said nothing
Great idea. Who's in charge of incarceration?
It was terrible for me and some of my friends ( now deceased ). Debt collection agencies phoning daily and openly threatening interest bearing debts, no support or onus on any government departments or entities, belligerent and unhelpful resources at every level on MyGov. Not being able to pay rent in order to service automated debt repayments. Multiple meals missed every week.
I used to have a tolerable respect for government up until I had to sell a saxophone my great grand mother gave to me when I was 10 ( now 55 ) and I personally lost three friends including one with profound disabilities. Now I have contempt and mistrust for any government agencies as well as ongoing fear and terror responses to answering phones and emails or dealing with financial problems.
An Oxford dictionary definition of a terrorist scheme. Deliberately targeting those on disability or VA income streams, people with traumatic head injury and/or on spectrum with pre existing anxiety and societal trust issues and, in a lot of cases incapable of understanding or processing what was happening to us and why.
Very dark times and the fact the all got to stroll off into the sunset whilst many of us are permanently and irrecoverably scarred is insidious.
Scomo should be made responsible for his work.
Just because you can doesn’t mean you should. That funding of the politicians expenses is a joke, especially Scomo.
This will go down in the history books as one of the lowest moments in Australian politics.
Only to that point in time they can and will go a lot lower.
My only question is why aren't Morrison, Abbott, Turnbull, Robert, Tudge, Porter, Payne, Keenan, Fletcher, Ruston and Campbell - among others involved in this lethal extortion racket - behind bars?
I do not expect that the politicians responsible will ever be held to account. Still, publishing the results of continuing investigations, must leave a visible lump under the carpet where Robodebt has been swept. Thank you for your work.
I'm not surprised with the Liberals doing this. Would be nice if they limited politicians to use the same legal-aid services as everyone else. Aussies are getting screwed pretty hard right now
Their pensions are already enough to pay the legal fees themselves, so they'd be denied legal aid. Lol
And the CFMEU?
How is it that ministers and senior bureaucrats who concocted Robodebt have got off 'scott' free?
The High Court should hear the case on this - people versus State.
Who runs the institutions people rely on for justice?
Morrison will be remembered as the worst PM in Australian history.He was and still is an absolute grub.
It's a tight race between him and Abbott, but yeah, he deserves the title
still Howard by a long mile
Whitlam By a Country Mile!!!
@@kimbo3068 only if you hate everyone who doesn't have at least 10mil in the bank
@@kimbo3068Whitlam introduced Medicare.
Appreciate all your serious work on theiving of Australia's tax payer's money's. ❤
most of the "public" servants who were investigated in this commission were fully aware of the illegality of their actions... they are directly responsible for the thousands of aussies who committed suicide, and they need to be jailed - we cannot compromise on this, they must be held accountable
Yep
Not directly responsible, the politicians were directly responsible for this debacle.
Hang on just a second here. I'm as disgusted by Robodebt as anybody else is, but suggesting that thousands of Aussies committed suicide over it is going a bit far, don't you think? I'm pretty sure the actual number of suicides wasn't even in the hundreds.
@@darrenjpeters Of course it was only one so lets move on LOL
@@SunnieSnell That's not what I meant at all, sweetie, but whatever. Even one is too many. You have a nice day.
That is excellent journalism, so thanks for that. I disagree on the point of the NAC not being corrupt though. There certainly seemed to be a conflict of interest as far Paul Breretons relationship with his old mate catherine Campbell. The NAC has not gone after any of the corrupt politicians as far as we know and is only focused on the public service low hanging fruit. Canberra is still rotten to the core.
Our federal politicians have hit rock bottom
My best friends dad is a one legged war veteran, who drives buses for a living.
Robodebt told him that not only was his veterans pension cancelled, he was told that he owed $90,000 dollars to the government.
My friend was able to defeat it, but it was beyond stressful for him and his family.
This needs a wider audience and the correct measure of outrage. Thankyou sir for your contribution into making this whole thing at least palletable.
My feelings about Robodebt and those responsible are so strong I can't even watch this video. Just the sight of these people is sickening. I can't imagine what it must be like for the people who were directly affected.
Same here. I didn't have a debt but the entire thing made my blood boil.
can tell you, for me, it's PTSD.
@@katejudson8907yep. PTSD to the extent I can't walk into a services Australia office without formal support workers, and usually takes me days to recover. The centerlink hold music from that era is guaranteed to set off a panic attack, my psych says that's the threshold of knowing my anxiety is controlled enough to not endanger me in public.
If I can sit through 5 minutes of that music without mindless panic or self injury. The thought alone has made me feel sick.
I was homeless and hit with a debt. Didn't know about the time limit or access for a resolution. I'm still down $5grand of unlawful debts which I can not recover. There is no Justice still.
My parents got done for $5000, so cruel on aged people
SCUMMO & FAILBERGS greatest LNP hoodwink.
Fraudenberg***
Another expensive mess left to the Australian public by the coalition, who think they will never run out of our money to spend.
The robodebt perpetrators, morrison, porter, tehan, roberts etc should be in gaol.
By crikey they were abysmal.
And the CFMEU in Victoria and WA ? see Ben Harvey article.
@@user-gl5kj1fm5x Keep trying DH. Was the CFMEU an illegal plan designed and carried out by ALP ministers? No, didn't think so. So STFU fool.
Robodebt is a perfect example of Computer Says.
The next thing that should be investigated are real estate payment apps.
I second the motion!
Appreciate the time and effort your work takes with these investigations, especially when your doing the media's job for them. Hoping your doing well, i always look forward to your videos!
This whole saga especially the end result of non investigation breaks my heart. … and that Morrison gets free money to lie a travesty of justice to Australia’s citizens.
I would love a fact check on the Tudge article. Congratulations on great channel covering many issues that really need to be in the depth you do. Please continue with the great content.
SCUMO got away with his crimes and his partner, SPUD too. They get to live comfortably in retirement.
Keep up your good work on this issue... for the sake of those who are no longer with us. Justice delayed is Justice denied. ✊
Keep following up on this please.
Thank you so much for doing another video on this important topic! The more people that know about this shameful chapter in our government’s history, the less likely it will be to happen again. You should definitely do a video on the article which needs a fact check!
Thank you for still covering this.
I am super keen to get a fact-check of Tudge's article.
I second that motion!
You have done absolutely brilliant work on robodebt, thank you, it is appreciated
Who would deliberately harm a fellow citizen just to get a better pay packet in the future? A politician.
Yet another razor sharp video...much appreciated.
I am looking forward to seeing your video about the recommendations of the Royal Commission.
The cost of funerals for those who were victims of a pathological government policy was not borne by the initiators. The trauma for the families and friends can not have a price put upon it. The perpetrators of this crime will not appear in a court of law but will be lauded for their efforts to bring to account the poor and powerless who were perceived as criminals.
"We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office"
Aesop.
This quote encapsulates a poignant commentary on the systemic injustices prevalent in society, particularly within the realm of governance.
Another great presentation, thank you.
Can you please look into the NDIA and do a comparison of spending from the Scomo era and labour?
I have concerns about people with legitimate disabilities getting blamed for the costs blowout.
Or possibly report on the Disability Royal Commission. And the lackluster response from the government. I'm sick of feeling like I am placed in the too hard category and being swept under the rug. For the last 41 years of my life.
Brilliant, illuminating, investigative, revealing work by KISL. Keep it up! So important we have people to shine lights in dark places. Well Done! 🙂
Just remember when you get all starty eyed about the greens and holding labor to account. The likely alternative would devastate Australia again.
and I only got $200 interest and $60 in compensation what a sick joke
I only got $89 ... they tried to get me for 39k
They were screwing over venerable people and they knew it. It takes people of a particular malicious mind set to do that. I've always known that Morrison has the hallmarks of a sociopath and Porter could well be a psychopath. These 'things' care nothing for people they put into distress or those who deleted themselves.
You could spend the rest of your life fact checking The Spectator.
Fantastic video! Robodebt is an interesting case in the concept of "social murder" regarding suicides
Top shelf, great work and outrageous facts! Access to justice? 🤬
Good Video Knights
I wish we could revoke Morrison's citizenship
Australian Political class or Mafia...I think we'd get a fairer deal if the Mafia ran the country.
Make the Liberal party pay all the compensation! That way political parties will think twice before implementing such rubbish!
Excellent as always. Thank you.
Thanks for your work. This was an extreme low point in Australian political history and the opportunity to learn and improve processes from the experience is being lost in order to protect reputations. Stepping aside from the blame game and the viper pit of politics, the clean blade of truth could save a future government from itself. Thanks
Corruption in Government is merely a cultural weighting to do things that are not in the public interest. NACC meets that admirably regardless of how many internal rules it may have and how well it adheres to those rules.
You are doing a holly work mate
I never got my robodebt money back. Paid ~800$, provided payslips for the whole period, debt stood.
A eye opening tangent, thank you
Thanks
Thanks! Yes, fact check away fine sir.
Politicians should have legal funding paid for by tax payer UNLESS the Commissioner makes advers findings.Then go to town on them. Until then, they are presumed acting in good faith.
Can we stop them using the honorific "The Honourable"?
Along with being ethical, or moral, honour does not exist in that place.
Or at least title of Dishonourable
Great work KiSL. Much appreciated.
All those who were involved in this scheme both politicians and public servants should be prosecuted for this scam.
Another great video. Keep going mate, this is excellent stuff.
The unemployed are treated like criminals.
And the sick, or the simply poor.
"165‑55 Commissioner may disregard scheme in making declarations
For the purposes of making a declaration under this Subdivision, the Commissioner may:
(a) treat a particular event that actually happened as not having happened; and
(b) treat a particular event that did not actually happen as having happened and, if appropriate, treat the event as:
(i) having happened at a particular time; and
(ii) having involved particular action by a particular entity; and
(c) treat a particular event that actually happened as:
(i) having happened at a time different from the time it actually happened; or
(ii) having involved particular action by a particular entity (whether or not the event actually involved any action by that entity)."
They all walked *scott* free. Disgusting. Worse than the horizon scandal in terms of lives lost.
Australian politics ..in fact any public entity (public hospital ceo/university boards, etc) have MAJOR accountability problem. Any baffoon seems to introduce policies....some that cause serious harm....and then simply quit and get away scot-free. They should be held to account even if retired/moved on...so the next person in charge can think through their actions carefully
...and why the sealed section of the report - what the hell is in that?
Morrison should be in jail for what happened to some people
Thanks for this
How much the government strip pensioners who invested independently without having children to have a FAMILY TRUST FUND. This no different than ROBODEBT (ASSETS TAXES) stealing from pensioners who independently invested money and learning them with a reduction with their pensions. Meanwhile those who have a Family Trust Fund still receive the FULL PENSION.
KISL Love your work, as always.
What can I do about this, how do we bring pressure to bear on politicians to do something about this crap?
Contact your federal member.
@@attilajuhasz2526 Appreciate the response but was hoping for something more meaningful. 🙂🙂
@@cheerytomato6196 perhaps organising a template letter regarding public displeasure at these goings on; distribute said letter and have the federal members' email flooded by letters from all who agree with you. Sort of like a petition.
They can't ignore the opinions of their electorate!
The corruption in the public service in Australia is devastating. Robo debt has been responsible for suicides and poor health outcomes. Dirty little Scott Morrison and his incompetence cost far too much socially and emotionally. Still he has his medal from trump that keeps him nice and warm.
Morison - morally & ethically bankrupt - & he calls himself a Christian - yeah right - he’d be the front runner to qualify as Satins right hand man - what a shameful & disgraceful legacy he’ll forever be remembered for.
there's something just so very messed up when a government can knowingly implement policy it knows it unconstitutional, and drive its own citizens to suicide and then just walk away from it like some sulking kid.....
thankyou for you amazing vids keep them coming, they will be important for decades to come.
I remember the WA corruption and crime commission being established by WA Labor. This same commission discovered hangovers from WA inc. and corrupting influence of the likes of Brian Burke within both the Liberal and Labor party.
Commissions aren't tools for attacking political party's. They're tools for uncovering uncomfortable truths. Self criticism is often the hardest to do fairly, but is the most important to legitimise government.
Good work, mate. These cri.inals.should be in jail instead of being shuffled off to cushy jobs. Also, i would love a fact checked spectator article video.
Hes back!!!
Thank you for your work
Keep up the good work or they will sweep this under Parliament House carpet.
This is very well presented. Notice this type of government does not try to tax the rich. It sets out to screw the poor 😢
Love a fact check video on that.
When a person discovers that a crime resulting in an unlawful death has occurred they must provide the evidence to the police. That is the law. The police decide whether to prosecute, not parliament. Then a jury decides on whether to convict, not parliament. That is the law. When the Liberal and Labor parties voted to do something else and prevented the police from prosecuting the criminals that was a conspiracy to pervert the course of justice. That is the law which was broken. Taking public money to hide the crime is conspiracy to obtain a benefit by deceit.
All this and yet people are prepared to give these people the reins of Government again - see current opinion polls
Please fact check Tudge’s bullshit.
Thanks for making this
Put him and his cronies in prison.
33 million dollars for a few interviews and print out a report, the whole investigation should only have taken a week or two and every investigation should have referral powers for prosocution and use them, how can this sort of funding for a basic investigation be justified, in the report should be included a complete cost breadown of every dollar allocated and since these people seem to forget they are public servants and they work for the public and in doing so are supposed to have every aspect of their job justified, financially, ethically and morally even though this never takes place. The Australian public has grown very blase concerning our government, they shout out how we have a two party preferred system in Australia, what idiot prefers only two parties, this is just a petri dish of corruption and collusion between two parties that care nothing about the public and do only what is needed to keep the minor parties happy enough to get their preferences at voting time otherwise whoever pays the best of comes out with great favors then they get the sitting governments support untill the next party gets in and they do the same and there is no one to stop them, and even if they get caught then who cares, if they have to leave office they still get a very generous payout and pension and then they walk strait into top paying jobs that had already been promised. If our two main parties vote no to ethics rules forbidding them from lying to the public in their job then both parties are corrupt and do not work for the public, if both parties vote on a missinformation bill but put two big exceptions in the bill stating that mainstream media and the government are exempt from spreading missinformation then the two main parties are corrpt and do not work for the people, just from these two votes in paliment then we know for a fact that the Australian public can not believe any spoken word or any action taken from the two main parties.
I recall when this was kicking off, being scarfed I was going to get into trouble.
I wasn't nor do I earn enough from work in order to have to do tax, so I was safe.
But other people, nope.
I am still not able to earn $10 an hour and all attempts to get a job outside of disability employment have failed.
I am so glad I don't have to scream at my T.V whenever Morrison came on it! He filled me with rage....
It has been suggested that NACC commissioner The “Honest” Paul Brereton AMFM RFID SCalectrics (upon hearing the recommendation the NACC review the Royal Commission into Robodebt) burst into song at the top of his lungs with the lyrics “Hot potato, Hot potato, Hot potato HOT POTATO!!!!”…..
another day, anotehr Knights banger
total corruption,,so Australian.
Lawyers walked away like kings with new robes
The Post Office scandal in the UK is the same thing.
Would love a long look at Tudger’s political career
It cost lives for government greed and further cover up.
One rule for the pollies, another rule for the punters.
Corrupt to the core.
Scotty in goal.
Australia’s fortunes have followed the quality of Grubbermint since Whitlam in 1972. There, I’ve said it.
Fact checks are great, they always follow the narrative.
You have forgot one thing what about the issue involving COVID and the vaccine's
People commited suicide over SCO Mo's robo debt scheme😢, where's the accountability.
We pay 40% tax and get nothing for it
How much is labors net zero costing us, and how much have interest rates, rent, and energy bills gone up on their watch, oh and fuel tax went up the other day too.