Indeed this vid seems very loaded instead of impartial and lacking background . If your going to present a counter argument provide relevant ie the passed whistle blower bill. Plus this testimony has been in the works for some time so not riding the wave. Plus comments like junkyard says more about this whole presentations legitamcy than anything.
We have people who can testify under oath that they have seen Elvis after his death. They can write this in documents and nevertheless they are mistaken. It is pretty simple if you see Elvis bring him with you and if you "find" a vehicle just take a part of it.. Never come home from an alien abduction without taking some high tech with you.
@@ghostexits I don't think Grusch cares one way or another whether you believe him or whether you don't. I know and have spoken with friends in the military and have a close relative who directs publicity for NASA. Not only is Area 51 an open secret but military attitudes toward it are blase and pretty relaxed. My biggest concern is the way American military in particular finds ways to sidestep the Geneva Convention and treat Visitors with suspicion and violence. The paranoia of the human species (specifically male) will ultimately be its catalyst for extinction. Our military continues to see itself as somehow at the very apex of the food chain and awards itself far greater powers than any civilian branch of government. Including the power to create--and to keep--innumerable secrets.
The whole point about this David Grusch story isn't that we should believe everything he says without evidence, but that there should be an investigation done so that the truth (whatever it is) can come out. That's what David wants as well.
But of course he is going to say that regardless of whether he is lying or not, because he wants to seem legitimate. He's not going to say " NO don't investigate it, please don't!" because that would look silly. I am not saying he is lying. Maybe he is being truthful but he is mistaken or has been deceived? I don't know, but saying that there should be an investigation does not prove that the claims he is making are true.
@@jamesemerson4102 just do a little more digging and you will find that the governments are hiding something. What that actually is, is up for debate. Part of the way he can get this information released is he can not knowingly make accusations that are a lie, criminal charges can be held against him if found to be the case. He first started going down this route in 21/22. Give the man a break, he was just doing his job and following process laid out in front of him. He will now no doubt live under a rock for his own sanity and safety.
Fact: Grusch 'was' a CIA Intelligence officer, the institution that spreads misinformation and performs psyops on the public. If that goon announced that the sky is blue, I'd go outside and check.
He may well believe what he's saying. That doesn't make anything he says true or accurate. Witness statements do not constitute scientific proof. Simple as.
@@TheVideoLounge no he received direct information about the programs, their name and their locations. That classified info was sent to Congress and will be discussed soon in hearings.
according to this guy and my mom ufos arent real...ive seen 3 and got it on video and so did other people...but i guess this guys right im stupid and wrong damn really got me
@Jesse Viveros and yet he didn't reveal anything. All he said was "the aliens are real and the USA government are hiding it" which is an old hot potato that's been passed around for generation.
@@Kangaroojack1986 yeah but it's part of the DOD dopser approval which simply put reviews his statements and approves them for public release to insure that no classified info is stated
Lets also not forget that, as a matter of fact - there are craft operating in our airspace that the government has admitted they can neither identify, nor interdict. This by definition makes the airspace insecure. While not evidence when taken alone, it is reasonable and urgent to investigate Mr. Grusch's claims for the sake of national security alone.
Old Toddy is much more focused on virtue signaling to the left than focusing on mental health topics these days. I know what you're thinking, how are UFOs a partisan issue? It turns out after Q and Covid, any conspiracy theories that distrusts the government are rejected by the left wholesale. Now here we are and the psychology youtubers are telling us UFOs arent real.
@@horacesheffield7367well that ignores the testimony of the military personnel present while the 'tic tac 'ufo was filmed. They claimed they observed and interacted with the craft visually, not just through radar.
What's wrong with that? People call Beyonce vapid. The person you see in music videos and concerts isn't actually like that in person. You act like the brass in the military are extremely smart or interesting, have you seen Milley or that trans officer? Did you watch Generation Kill? 1st Marine Recon, Charlie company's Captain was actually a dumb ass. Many of the Marines talked about how terrible he was and he couldn't lead, but yet he's a Captain of one of America's most elite fighters.
"Grusch doesn't appear to possess critical thinking skills" He's only a highly respected intelligence officer in intelligence community who is highly respected due to his analytic and critical thinking abilities.
I agree. That was a harsh statement he made against Grusch. It was disrespectful. I’m not sure if Grusch made valid claims, but this guy is kind of rude.
Actually he is highly respected for being able to disseminate false information with a straight face many of my respected.colleagues who actually know someone who knows someone in the service told me so. A high IQ and a facility with puzzle solving or code breaking or whatever maxwell smart activity one may think of doesn't imply dexterity with anything beyond itself. plenty of highly intelligent dupes, like PhD nuclear phycicists who are staunch fundamentalists attest to this and the contrary, alot of so called average people who don't fall for any BS. His info is useless is the good doctor's point I think it is in form and content lacking substance. Government may still deserve scrutiny could be hiding all sorts of things. Could be testing the waters. Huh huh? Yeah, could be playing mind games with us. Oh boy.
He’s testified under oath, if he’s lying he goes to jail! He’s turned over physical evidence to the inspector general! If I was you I’d be sitting tight until this washes out!
@@PROTAGONIST_48 Sorry but everyone is ignorant until they learn the information. I am ignorant of quantum mechanics and lots of other specialist fields. Close mindedness would include people who believe in aliens on this planet and refuse to accept we have no good evidence of them. Most conspiracy minded people are close minded. You must have a tough time with all the things and people you can't stand.
@Roger McMillan the difference and what many here seem to conveniently ignore about him is that he filed a FORMAL complaint to the Inspector's Office of the Intelligence Community, and they accepted the complaint as being "urgent and credible". This is now a legal investigation, and he is accountable for anything he has filed in his complaint. That means that if he is purposely lying, he can and most definitely will be punished by the law, with jail or other severe penalties. This is not a "typical" case of UFO claims because there is great accountability at play. It would be intellectually dishonest to assume that someone would put their livelyhood at risk just for a quick minute of fame. Does that mean there are aliens? No. That just means he is the first person with high clearance willing to risk their livelyhood with these claims. That is interesting, and should be taken seriously.
I imagine his coworkers at the NRO knowing how excited he gets about aliens and just trolling him with fantastical stories and fake documents they made.
it makes no different what anyone says even the president himself if you dont show the evidence to back up your claims its just words. the time for evidence is now, talking isnt evidence
Yes, I too automatically believe everything a government employee says. ESPECIALLY when they're telling me exactly what I want to hear- That's when I know they CAN'T POSSIBLY be leading me down the garden path.... I mean, who ever heard of the US gov't, lying about UFO's?!? Unthinkable!!!
If Grusch's account was an isolated incident, it could easily be explained away. However, he's only the latest example of many credible witnesses who have reported on the UAP phenomena. This man swore an oath before Congress that he is telling the truth. We shouldn't be so eager to dismiss such people.
He could be 100% honest but this could be a reverse conspiracy, where the conspiracy is actually that US intelligence wants us (or someone) to think they’re capable of perpetrating such an elaborate conspiracy.
There are just as many "credible" accounts of religious phenomena. It serves us well to be skeptical of grandiose claims. Many of us prefer to see actual evidence before handing our brains over to beliefs
He did claim to see top secret photos and other evidence which he presented to closed door session of congress but can not reveal to the public due to security clearance issue. It's illegal for him to reveal that to the public. Also he did not get clearance to discuss Roswell as well. His attorney has made it clear as well that he can't reveal anything still designated top secret classification. If you add up his testimony with others, there is congruence. And he's not riding any wave, he did his job per the task force assignment and is simply stating that they were black balled and shut out of this special access black ops program.
He is lying. Let me ask you this: have you ever held an S/TS/SCI clearance? If it was that big of an issue, there would be no way for the government to stop you from releasing the truth. You can always run and hide, but wouldn't you want the world to know the truth, even if you are mysteriously killed? When you have even a TS, you aren't followed home and reminded every hour on the hour to not say anything. You seem like the type who would fall for anything without finding out if it was true, first! Go out there and find out instead of supporting a known liar and scam artist.
Agreed with above. Everyone. Please do your research into how security clearances work. This is not some CZcams bum making claims. This is not a case of single source hearsay. He HAS the evidence but even to admit this to the public at this time would be breaking his oath. Please do more research and this becomes clear. He HAS not only documents photos and VIDEOS and more “first hand” witnesses that were in these programs. I’m not some alien kook but sheesh people, please understand what it means to be a whistleblower at this level, the risks he faces and the people who are supporting him. At the very least we need to follow up and get to the bottom of these claims and push to get the evidence released to the public.
If he is adding Roswell into the conspiracy theory, then we can completely discount everything he says since we know Roswell wasn't about aliens. Roswell is more like a religion where people 'suddenly' discovered facts 30 years after the incident but nothing until then.
Grande is a small minded man , forcing his deductive reasoning recipe on to all subjects every few days now. He should make this an entirely opinion piece from now on. Saying words like " I feel, or it is my opinion, or I don't really know much about this subject, but...." To at least not look like a know it all , ignorant , small minded dufus.
It always gets me when skeptics demand proof from people calling for an investigation. If you had proof an investigation wouldn't be needed. It's putting the cart before the horse. "Prove to me the conclusions of your investigation before the investigation begins".
I have never heard that. I have heard skeptics say give us some evidence before we waste millions of dollars investigating nonsense. So far, in the more than 50 years I've been watching the claims spew forth, there has been no good evidence to spend a dollar investigating anything.
sometimes common sense suffices. i find it funny that these ufos only crash land in places where the us military has immediate access to. no civilian witnesses in an age where everyone has a camera phone, just us military personnel apparently. the us military is rather nonchalant about such a bombshell dropping. and lastly, the whistleblower may be mistaken. also, it's important to understand that just because you don't think there's anything to gain, doesn't mean the whistleblower doesn't see it another way. anyway, there is a lot of things that make this case very silly. i'd like to believe him, but he has provided nothing but his credentials and a bunch of words lol
@@BigSnipp Not really. Everything is normally investigated in the DOD just because of previous lack of conduct. But what these skiptics want is just to tell you you're wrong without anything even being put upfront to show this or that. Mick West for example is a habitual I believe the government bs talking points. I'm going to trust the experts instead of some video game developer on aerodynamic objects
Interesting that the official bodies haven't come forward and said he's talking out his arse. His testimony is very damaging yet there seems no official rebuttal
Why not just throw these documents and photographs into the public? surely he would gain massive support if any of it is relevant.. i wouldnt be so confident that the congress or people in power would do anything with it regardless whether its real or not.
But it does mean AARO is either too afraid of retaliation or finds his claims so dubious that they're willing to throw their former cohort under the bus
I’ve heard (& have covered this extensively on my channel) that AARO was in the dark about it AND that they revised their statement to “aren’t authorized to verify” and “may not want to verify”
This is a high level intelligence figure under oath. Several credible journalists have put their careers on the line to say they have also spoken to many sources that back this up. Don’t let an emotional commitment to skepticism drain you of all your common sense. Where there’s smoke there is fire; either there is truth to this or elements of the government really want people to THINK that there is .. they why here either way is fascinating
@@sequinifyme too! I often scroll down to the comment section and sit in admiration when I come across a comment that eloquently states my thoughts at the time. This was one of them..
@@davidwilliams7552 Just as one example outside the context of the current revelations. Take Roswell. There is an FBI memo literally saying the Air Force told them that their radar interfered with the control systems of two disks in New Mexico, which crashed, and they also recovered six bodies. The FBI said well that memo was after the fact by a few years and might have just been reporting a “story” people were circulating. ( This is in the 1950s BEFORE the skeptical narrative that this exact story was all invented post hoc in 1978 by Stanton Friedman and Jesse Marcel.) The military press officer who initially put the story out that it was a flying disk and then changed it to a weather balloon left a signed affidavit in 2002 after his death that it was crashed disks and he person soy saw alien bodies - but the skeptics claim that he was old and his memory was bad and he was under the influence of UFO conspiracy published who wrote the affidavit for him and just had him sign it. All of these is fair enough, maybe, but if it turns out in this one instance there really was a crash .. you would say it was pretty much in plain sight almost the whole time no? For the current claims, if I’m a betting person something like “the Vatican helped the U.S. recover a ufo” is probably some kind of disinformation. However, “extraordinary claims” here is doing pretty heavy lifting, so heavy that no one seems to have even bothered to ask them if it is true - even though a well placed and credible U.S. intelligence officer seems to want to tell us that it is. Again, no one is saying to believe it, for one thing it could all be disinformation, but actually try to get to the bottom of it, yes.
He has provided Congress and the Inspector General under oath with the location of the spacecraft, the name of the program managers, and the names of the liaisons between the USIC and Private aerospace company. He wants Congress to investigate his claims, and has an Inspector General investigating his complain and has found it to be urgent. Congress now plans to invite him on to testify under oath in a public setting. This is an admirable person who like he said in the interview he doesn't want to be in his 60s or 70s regretting for having kept this a secret.
@@seanpittaway5341 this is someone who has gone further than any previous whistleblower by testifying under oath for not just congress but the inspector general. This man is not doing this with the chance to go to jail just to make ufo Twitter happy and Mick West cry.
I watched the video yesterday morning with David’s interview on News Nation. Decided I’d watch it again because it was so good, 45 minutes later and the video said private and was gone. I had just said to my husband, I can’t believe the government allowed this information out to the public. I think he’s telling the truth.
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which can not fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is contempt prior to investigation." --Herbert Spencer
Here’s the thing. Guy isn’t the only one that has said the exact same thing. Most holding super high clearances. Kind of makes you pause at the very least and ask why all these people who were vetted telling all lies.
um...no you are wrong. Do you have any examples? lots of people say the same things, yes, its the same tired story, the only reason Grusch has gotten more attention is because he is has 'credentials'
Because the US government has a long and storied history of using aliens and ufos as a cover story for their weapons and defense systems testing? It’s like everyone forgot that drones exist and that they’re currently being tested for autonomous weapons use.
@@aboveyou686 Well, you are obviously right. There is too much evidence to reasonably assume there is nothing to this. So, I don't. However, I'm skeptical of this whistleblower for the reasons pointed out in the video and others.
We don't know if it's only hearsay just yet. He allegedly has classified material that he did turn over to investigators, but cannot make public at the moment. We have to wait out on this one before calling it hearsay.
David Grusch the type of guy to quit his job and book it to Vegas after receiving an email from a newly discovered rich Nigerian relative who is about to leave him a fortune.
He didn't turn it over to investigators, he turned it over to the intelligence community inspector general himself, who found the claims "credible and urgent" which speaks VOLUMES.
Ha ha ha ha , you clearly don't understand hearsay. He hasn't seen Aliens, or Spacecraft, but he knows people who have, That is the very definition of "hearsay" please keep up
@@scroopynooperz9051Sounds more like you. His credentials say otherwise. My bet would be that either this is a deliberate misinformation campaign organized by someone in the government or his allegations may have some substance. There is a small chance that he is a schizophrenic.
Dr Grande is afraid of the possibility of aliens. And we need a different dr grande to analyze this dr grande’s fear of potential aliens. Stay strong, dr grande
Been a pilot for 45 years, for over 20 plying the grumpy skies at 30 000 feet or more - often at night. Seen many beautiful heavenly sights, meteorites, Northern Lights, the ISS and satellites stately floating by… Never ever did I think any of that was extraterrestrial! Am I just unlucky - or don’t have much imagination?
I had 1,000 hours in navy cockpits, and I never saw a darn thing, and never heard even a rumor of anyone else who did. Actually I did see a spacecraft once. Flying South off the coast of Florida to Puerto Rico, far overhear was this incredible light trail … it was a NASA rocket launch 🤣
You have a clear mind and rationality. If you see something, you first assume that there is some logical explanation, instead of other gullible people who jump to conclusions that it's extra-terrestrial life or some other nutter conspiracy. There was that incident where people thought UFOs were crash landing, when it was actually a rocket that was breaking apart when coming back into the atmosphere late at night.
Lots of people haven’t seen one. Also, we would not even necessarily know whether we had or not. It has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with your imagination. 🌍🦋👍🏾💜
I'm sure more pilots have seen nothing than saw something. That doesn't mean you just dismiss the ones that have. Being a pilot, what is your thought on the Chicago O'Hare incident?
They just passed a law allowing him to legally come out, that's why it 's "convienient timing." Direct witnesses are evidence, they confirmed the witnesses are real. Appently you didn't research even what is going on at all.
Well, if these witnesses coming forward to testify are the ones with the firsthand knowledge of these Alien spacecraft then what do they need him for? He doesn't know anything other than what they told him. They could have just come forward by themselves.
Yesterday Dr. Greer, had a press conference to which there was information given to congress, he has been on this track for 30 years. With many new whistle blowers
Lol he keeps mentioning on how no "triangle shaped" planes exist therefore it must be a UFO and for whatever reason he's naive to Technology demonstration aircraft. And the "black triangle" aircraft he claims that was videotaped near the border was a patrol drone.
@Adam Burling you're not wrong. His evidence being all eye witnesses and a few sketchy documents makes it a difficult thing to believe. Most of his eye witnesses are credible people though so it's not like everyone is a blatant liar. Just really wierd with no hard evidence.
I appreciate people who believe in conspiracy theories... they seem to be very creative in their thinking and coming up with the most implausible solutions to explain certain plot holes. I am fascinated by their ability to go beyond common sense and logic. I wish I had that kind of thinking! No matter how hard I try, I just can't seem to find a conspiracy theory to subscribe to. My husband and I watched a video of this UFO whistleblower once and he automatically was on board. Meanwhile, I just saw a man with lots of unsubstantiated claims and hearsay... what the heck is wrong with me?! Ugh... i just want so badly to have at least one interesting wacko conspiracy theory under my belt just like most people...
Start with the article, listing out all the people corroborating David's testimony. Follow their impeccable credentials of high ranking service within the IC and military community. Many lead to hundreds of others who are also experts, some who have direct evidence with metamaterials and testimony both. David Grusch also holds a Master's Degree in physics. He states, as do many other physicists who have worked within both classified and unclassified UFO programs, that many material samples could only be manufactured in zero gravity environment, and isotope ratios in some instances our science cannot yet recreate. The Tic Tac in the 2004 Nimitz Encounter was tracked on radar traversing from 80k ft to 50ft in .78 seconds. This is over 42k mph.
Conspiracy theories are unavoidable. In this case you must choose between two: That the Military is full of cultists, scientologists and crackpots in high level security positions who have invented a story about Aliens and are promoting it to the world, or that the Intelligence services have Alien craft in their possession.
I don't think Grusch lacks credibility. It's all very interesting, and there's nothing wrong with keeping an open mind. Problem is, we just don't have very much to go on. So we will have to wait and see if more comes of it.
@@notbornagainbornright5046 When did it happen? Who was involved? What was said? Is this documented with the police or anyone? No, so people saw Elvis after his death.
I agree with you. I generally like Dr. Grande, but in this case I think he's being a bit of a dick. Grusch is whistleblowing because he was trying to investigate something while at the AARO, which was authorized by Congress to do UAP investigations, and he claims that he was blocked from doing so. What was he investigating? People were telling him things about about alien spacecraft, crashed pilots and all that. Does he have direct proof of this? No. Why? BECAUSE HE WAS BEING BLOCKED FROM TRYING TO UNCOVER IT. That's the whole point. Why is he going public? Because maybe outside pressure will allow him and others to at least try to prove or disprove whether or not some or all of the stories are legit. I mean, heresay evidence IS evidence, but it needs to be supported by other physical evidence. Let him at least be allowed to TRY to find the physical evidence before you dismiss him as being a goof. So all I can say is come on, Todd. Quit being such a reactionary skeptic. Maybe Grusch is an attention-seeking kook, but maybe he's not. This story hasn't played out yet.
the thing we have to go in is his claims that he had top level security clearance and was denied access to Secret programs, he looked for documents on these programs and found some concerning things, we cannot see them because WE dont have HIS clearence, as SOON as congress views these documents and makes them DeClassified then we can see whats going on, his claims are substatial enough, he gave the evidence to the Inspector general of intellegence and he viewed them and said "you can say something about it BUT you cannot show these classified documents, Davids attourneys coincedentally are owned by the Inspector general of intellegence, THAT MEANS, the Inspector general SAW these documents and then said "holy hell, yeah you need to tell people, and ill even be your attourney"
I’m not crazy and I attended grad school at the University of Michigan. I saw one when I was 17 in the middle of nowhere in Michigan. It was different than most of the ones I hear described though. Black and triangular, smooth edges that were rounded didn’t seem like it had much of a bubble where the cockpit or in the middle would be, it was hovering over a House on the side of the road or at least that’s what it look like I was with my mom and aunt we were headed to the grocery store which was over half an hour away because we lived out in the middle of nowhere. We pulled over and started yelling at each other, because we didn’t know what to do then before we could turn around to head back home it was gone it was gone that fast. It was the weirdest thing I’ve ever seen.
There was an incident here in West Michigan in 1994 in the Holland to Muskegon area where a lot of people saw lights zipping rapidly back and forth over the Lake Michigan shoreline. I remember it made the news even, because so many people were calling local police to report them.
Well... no. Grusch has seen the photos. He provided these and the backup documents to the inspector, via the channel used for classified materials. Or at least that is what he claims.
I came to comment the same thing. Dr Grande- Grusch has seen photos of the crafts, videos, and talked with people who have been harmed by these things. He is only one degree of separation... he wasn't able to place his own hand on the spacecraft so to speak, but others before him have said they have (thinking Bob Lazar). Why this is different is Grusch had a more senior position and has a lot to lose by going on the record. To me its either true, and the higher ups are ready to blow the lid on it, or a planned misinformation leak.
With this level of critical thinking....... Nevermind instead of explaining standards of evidence I should probably tell you about my uncle who is a totally real Prince that needs your help.
@@GrahamBrannon You must not understand how classified information work and what they’ll do to officers who violate these rules. Grush is NOT going to jail by releasing classified information for you!
@@akira28shima32 Uh I think a LOT of people would risk jail for being known as the person to blow the lid off the biggest story on the planet in the history of ever. They've done so for less! Instead this dipshit is just going to make some money on the crank tour circuit.
Grusch hasn't claimed to prove anything, he has merely introduced a topic. It's up to the Senate committee now to explore the topic. Grusch is using whistleblower cover recently provided by that Senate. Bearing in mind the committee is privy to much information so far kept from us, it's not unreasonable to wonder if we are being gently introduced to a topic many will find hard to believe, even strongly resist.
When multiple people in your industry tell you the same thing and you are one of the most trusted people in that industry and especially when that industry is essential to your country's defence it is probably wise to investigate further. I also notice that you forgot to mention a major part of the overall story, namely, that the current Inspector General called these reports both urgent & credible! Also the lawyer representing Mr Grusch just happens to be the very first appointed Inspector General in US history! As to the evidence we ALL want to see: clearly that evidence will be classified! However, what Grusch is asking, after his marathon 11 hours of testament in front of congress, which by the way, was also under oath ( you forgot that part as well) is that congress should investigate. I hope when more of this truth comes out that you have the professionalism to acknowledge the "writing on the wall" . I certainly will be doing the same if i am proven wrong... Richard Agar (NZ)
I think the Trump era has shown us that 'the government' is filled with people with poor critical thinking skills. So people believing things that have no evidence is just as likely whether you work in government or not. I'm 68 and I've been reading and watching all the claims since I was a kid. So far, no good evidence. Hard to believe it would stay covered up this long.
Circus Party in the USA... Running since 1947... But I never have seen this Circus... and I love Circus,... If this time the Clowns don't come out dancing... forget-it !
Thank you. He's doing exactly what he legally is supposed to so he doesn't get Manning-ed or Snowden-ed and then immediately people are calling him crazy. Whistleblowers can't win. If you break the law, you're called a traitor, if you follow it you're called a liar.
You didn’t even bother to watch the full interview. The Inspector General of the Department of Defense found his whistleblower complaint “credible” and “urgent”.
It’s too early to pass judgement on this one. The complaint has been filed and it’s now up to the appropriate parties to investigate to the fullest extent. Until then, there’s not too much to say other than what has been said before - these claims are not new.
My son in law asked his father on his deathbed about 5 years ago if all of this UFO and alien talk was real. His father had been in the USAF and was stationed at Area 51….his Dad tied him “Son, believe everything you hear and then some!” I believe him.
There have been many good decent intelligent people that have come out to speak the truth on this topic, but because we all have been propagandized our whole lives on this, we are quick to ridicule not believe and pass off these people and their stories.
The other side of the coin is that people see the appeal to authority and they instantly believe 100% of what they're told, as if the fact that these people have a security clearance makes them infinitely better than us little people at sifting through and dealing with information. They're just people with their dumbass biases and misconceptions, failing to produce physical evidence.
I was like Dr. grande. I never in a million years believed in UFO's and aliens. I just thought it was made up stories to get attention or money. Then, I retired (1 year ago) and finally had time on my hands. I have seen many documentaries on UFO's and aliens, and am starting to believe maybe they do exist. March 1, 2023 confirmed it all. I can finally admit I saw a UFO out over the ocean, and I just wish I took a picture of it. Of course, nobody would believe me unless I had a picture, but those who know me (surely nobody on CZcams).
The only propaganda I've ever seen was alien conspiracy stuff that was proven false, people proven to be liars etc. The idea that ships are crashing here or flying around in our atmosphere lit up like a Christmas tree is literally 1950s sci Fi nonsense mixed with the limitations of that era's technology. Things that no longer even makes sense considering the technology we have today, alien ships wouldn't need to be in our atmosphere to observe or study us, but that was all made up before high powered telescopes like Hubble existed or we understood DNA. I've never once understood why they would be lit up at all, if a plane turns it's lights off lf it's practically invisible if it's high enough or it's night time. There are intelligent people who believe all kinds of things that are not true. There's no evidence of any of this and all things point to literally every famous UFO person being a grifter.
Aliens are coming here with transgalactic craft... and crashing. They can find us on an interstellar map somehow, cross vast distances, and a whole host of other things... but don't have an autopilot to stay airborne. They make no effort to recover their dead or their stuff, but apparently are operating covertly enough that they don't *want* to be seen. But they don't mind being autopsied and inventoried. People ridicule it because it is ridiculous.
It's not the intelligence of people it's that there's not a shred of evidence nothing being put forward... zero ...the "cover up " theory is no longer working That's why people continue to be careful with the topic
No we should not!!, people lie all the time including those at the top, consistently and for nefarious reasons, show the evidence to back up the claims words mean nothing.should we believe the man who claims he can fly in the sky with little wings because he says he can and he works for the president, dont go through life believing everything people tell you because they wear a shiny suit you are asking to be ripped off.
You're the expert. True. Fundamentally wrong though. He's a top-tier intelligence officer, literally optimized to decipher the quality of intelligence. His integrity is above reproach. Thus, this must be taken seriously, and at least investigated. Period. If proven true. Academics will experience the largest shell shock, I say more than any religious groups.
agree. Think about people like Eric Weinstein who had spent their careers focusing on theories such as the Standard Model.... These tax paying PHD's have a lot of reason to be upset with their government.
Didn’t the whistleblower actually get the evidence that was provided to him to Congress? So it’s not “vapid hearsay” when he has seen classified proof and testimony, just not worked on it first hand?…
Yes..Dr.G hasn't gone beyond the surface on this one, its ok I get it. Most people still dismiss it. Until the evidence is actually produced it wont change anything.
If you had been in the Carribbean during the Early 90s and saw what the DOD was testing in the Range they had above that seciton of ocean. You would not be so skeptical. The DOD has technology that is scary advanced. And you should be mad that a make believe show is being done to hide our real tech level. I was there I saw things that changed my world view.
In my opinion. David is telling the truth. Why would anyone whistleblow, with what has happened in the past. Why would anyone risk everything.. unless, they had some seriously strong evidence, that will find the light of day when it is brought to the table. The news and people on CZcams are downplaying the scenario and adding more information, putting words in his mouth and their own ideas.. belittling using sarcasm to discredit him. Shame on those people. You will eat your words and be dumbfounded
Dr. Grande, here's what I got from David Grusch...he was working in AARO, but was not given the clearance to access this other program's work, e.g. recovered wreckage from "non-human" origin ships. That's it. That's what he presented to the Inspector General - inability to get access to the program to pursue his work further. His whistleblower claim was that this unavailable access was hampering his investigations but also just as his program AARO was made transparent to congress and the public, this other agency or agencies, should also be made transparent to congress and the public. 95% of all the media questions directed toward him were not on substantiating this simple fact. Instead, probably due to some personality or character trait which you could probably enlighten us with, he grandstands in a matter of fact way, somewhat bemusedly because none of the media questions really touch on the reason he is a whistleblower. Sure, he could stay silent or keep repeating - all I can tell you is what I told the Inspector General, but given the chance to be in the spotlight, good or bad, he was just throwing things out there that may well be his overblown imagination or paranoia. BUT, that is a secondary issue with him which has nothing to do with the fact of his whistleblowing. If he was working at Amazon and he found out that management was actively keeping workers at lower positions in the company, he might well "whistleblow" that with some facts that in this case would be unclassified, unlike with the Inspector General. BUT, he could still go on the news or social media and answer questions about what he "thinks" were the motivations, etc. etc. even mentioning anecdotal evidence from employees, but he is "in the spotlight". Why am I writing about this? Because having been in the military myself, I understand how things work when you are trying to ferret out something important that no one else thinks is important for whatever reason. There is absolutely no inertia, so I can sense some of his frustration, however I do believe his actions were not the actions of a delusional fantasy. He's getting ripped apart by the media and he doesn't even know it. I would respectfully suggest another video focusing on this perspective, the media perspective and how someone like Grusch can be led around as if he had a nose ring AND not even realize what's happening. Thanks for hearing me out.
My take, an oath to keep a secret is an oath... he broke it. I deeply dislike traitors no matter who it is. If the government is hiding evidence, they're doing it for a reason, think about the mass hysteria if people actually knew aliens were here. I, for one, would not take it well.🤔
He could be telling the truth about being told what he was told. That doesn't mean that the things he was told are all true. I don't understand how so many people have not realized this. He probably isn't lying. Does that mean that it's all true exactly how it seems? nope.
Dr. Grande, did you watch the hearings yesterday? I see now why he can’t reveal too much detail in an open setting. He could go to jail. He’s more than willing to give names, places, and details, but he can only do that in a SCIF, as of today the Oversight committee was denied access to a SCIF room.
Grusch may not be lying, but he's only relating what others have told him. He admits he hasn't actually seen alien spacecraft or alien bodies himself. This is called hearsay which is not even considered evidence in court.
Hundreds of Commercial Airline pilot testimony : This guy is still a skeptic, hundreds of military personnel testimony : this guy is still skeptical, dozens and dozens of hours of footage of these craft : this guy is still skeptical, footage released from military cameras : this guy is still skeptical, hundreds of thousands of civilian reports of UFO's : this guy is still skeptical, Military whistleblowers come forward : this guy is still skeptical, congressional testimony from ex military and fighter pilots : this guy is still skeptical, Border patrol releases 10 UAP videos : this guy is still skeptical, former Presidents say they've seen UFO's : this guy is still skeptical, UFO's captured on radar and sensor data : this guy is still skeptical, two members of congress that are paid off by defense contractors and vote to shut down the UAP Disclosure act of 2023 : this guy is still skeptical. an 82 year old corrupt dementia patient doesn't campaign and receives 81 million votes the same time tens of millions of mail in ballots are used for the first time in our election gets elected : this guy isnt skeptical
I was not interested in UFO's but I always kept an open mind thinking how could we absolutely rule it out? It's interesting thinking about and hearing the stories.
The problem is that 99% of people (including BOTH believers AND "skeptics") can't distinguish the idea of "UFOs" (even assuming they turn out to be something unexplainable by present-day science) vs the idea of "alien spacecraft", even though there's literally ZERO evidence linking the two topics, besides 70+ years of movies, tv, comics, video games, toys, and cereal box art, plus a bunch of unsupported anecdotes. I've been interested in UFOs since I was a kid, but it frustrates the hell out of me, the bizarre logic of most of the UFO scene, that "being open-minded" = "assuming that THE ONLY possible explanation for identifiable lights in the sky, is the exact 'alien spacecraft' narrative, that the entertainment industry has been pushing for half a century". There's a quote (from Jaques Vallee, maybe? Idk) talking about that obsession with the Extra-terrestrial hypothesis I really like, which says (paraphrasing) "I expect the ultimate answer to the question of UFO's, to be something that simultaneously far more mundane, AND far more bizarre and unexpected, than human-shaped aliens in nuts-and-bolts space-ships"
I don't think all the sightings are completely false. I think it's possible we have technology maybe 50 - 200 years more advanced than the public know about. It's just governments / authorities don't know how to release it yet as it could have a big impact on everyday life. They can barely control things right now. Think about it, other than medicine and some commercial based things phones, computers etc we've barely progressed in the last 50 years. Or at least we haven't according to public knowledge. Sometimes testing these things gets seen and they let the public ridicule themselves until the story goes away . I think something is off with the recent surge in AI and how everyone seemed to release things all at once. I seriously doubt it is aliens. It's probably us.
Would we mess with our own military though? I think most are lying but surely not everyone is lying about seeing something. I sometimes believe it's us. Not even another country. If it's technology related only the USA would be able to do it. There must be something to at least 1 of the stories and I think the answer would be less exciting than we think. Secret military tech etc.
@@Chrishavidas My suspicion has always been it's something that would mean we'd have an abundance of everything and that it would make every system we currently have redundant and they just don't know how to deal with that.
You must be nuts; I carry a small machine that I can access a million videos and songs while I can also make my own videos and send them instantly around the world in seconds. I can book tickets and do my Banking and ck the News and weather. I can check your school records too and see you were not quite the sharpest one in class. Sure, not much change in my last 50 years.
David’s comments seem believable. His professional cohort defined him as a “strong moral compass.” He seems to have done his due diligence in requesting permission to release confidential information about his former employer very transparently. It would appear that they approved the request maybe based off his integral reputation or perhaps the change of acts that protect whistle blowers. And, if his highers really did “confide” sensitive info to him, then this would probably support his reputation of being trust worthy. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was his immediate superiors that approved of the disclosure prior to his separation.
You hit the nail on the head with one of your points and I’ve always said that why is it that pilots that can travel 90 billion light years in a blink of an eye and keep crashing into our planet they are so sophisticated they have not discovered brakes yet?
That’s one of the dumbest questions that keeps popping up on the cyber-verse. For one thing, you’re assuming that these UAPs are from another planet; and they may not me; secondly, just because alien species might have resolved how to violate the space time metrics, it doesn’t make them invincible and indestructible. Why you conflate the two, shows a profound lack of critical thinking.
If he has seen actual classified government documents on the matter, that's a little better than 2nd hand. That said, I've seen documents that the government has released to the public on UFO/UAP matters, and 90% of those documents are blacked out, clearly there's something or a lot that they don't want us to know on the matter.
Watch the hour long interview. He has proof and has given all of it to people in the government for it to be analyzed. He has given them locations and names.
Grusch mentioned several times including about seeing the spacecrafts himself is classified and he cannot speak about it unless authorized. He seems credible.
Your reason for skepticism based on "why would aliens visit if there is a chance of crashing" and "how could they crash if they are advanced enough to get here" (I know I am paraphrasing) are pretty weak. Without knowing any of the motives for such excursions, or the conditions based on the supposed crashes, you can't really speculate. But even if it were simply for the sake of exploration, your reasoning is akin to asserting that NASA wouldn't risk shuttle missions because of Challenger.
Dr. Grande "doesn't appear to possess critical thinking skills" when fallaciously applying a sweeping generalization to Grusch's critical thinking skills without adding the qualifier "in this particular case". But regular listeners of Dr. Grande know he posseses strong critical thinking skills. We all make mistakes and leave out important clarifications in our statements. It doesn't mean Dr. Grande lacks critical thinking skills. Grusch may have drawn conclusions without ample evidence, as Dr. Grande reasonably concluded based on what is publicly known. It's also possible that Grusch possesses compelling evidence that he can't legally reveal publicly. Hopefully congress will surprise us by making good use of their time and focusing on evidence.
I suppose anything is possible. The universe is bigger than any of us could even imagine. That being said, I usually look for simple explanations first
The article which appeared in "The Debrief" was written by two top journalists from the New York Times, Leslie Kean and Ralph Blumenthal. The two of them were the lead writers on the groundbreaking NYT article from December of 2017 which exposed the existence of the ATIP program, and also showed the world the now-famous UFO video called the Gimbal video. Those two reporters are top-shelf, world class journalists, not to be dismissed. The article from The Debrief is called "INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS SAY U.S. HAS RETRIEVED CRAFT OF NON-HUMAN ORIGIN," June 5, 2023. And the NYT article from 2017 is called "Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program," December 16, 2017.
Most people don't realize it would have been physically impossible to detect/identity Earth as having intelligent life prior to about 100 years ago, which which in itself makes it virtually impossible we are being visited by anyone.
Ross Coulthart is a highly regarded Australian journalist. Having only just heard in recent years of the Westall - Melbourne Australia UFO incident in 1966 (which was covered up after threatening the witnesses), I tend to believe David Grusch. I hope more people like David come forward.
There are plenty of highly regarding journalists who screw up. At the end of the day, a claim of this caliber requires physical evidence, and all we have is hearsay and unconvincing videos and conspiracy theories involving apparently every single country on Earth all coming together to hide stuff from the public for some reason? Completely irrational. I'm OK with people keeping an open mind but at some point you have to do some introspection.
You’re shaking a hornet’s nest with this one and I’m fully on board 👍 the world needs more critical thinking, or maybe we are just shills for our lizard people overlords 😂
They changed it from Unidentified “Flying” Objects to Unidentified Aerial Phenomena because light bouncing off shiny objects is not considered “flying”. It’s like calling the laser pointer a cat chases “flying”!
Committing the logical fallacy of "argument from ignorance" where you think your ignorance about the cause of crashes means they don't exist. That's a "deficit of critical thinking." It's magical thinking.
Nonono, argument from ignorance is “idk what caused this, therefore aliens” not “idk what caused this, therefore idk what caused this” only the latter is rational.
@@jarredjacob2244 He said "idk what caused this, therefore NOT aliens." That is argument from ignorance. How does he know they didn't flew light years only to have a malfunction and found the best place to attempt a crash landing? He doesn't He's using his ignorance of the topic as the foundation of his argument, and it is as rather juvenile level fallacy to make for any educated person.
Finally! A sensible analysis. As long as we have no evidence, only words of one person, I cannot fully trust him. Extraordinary claims require evidence. No matter if he is former NASA official or a farmer who saw something at night.
“Only speculating about what could be happening” says Dr Grande, in every episode. For all the speculators, speculate as much as you wish. Just present us with some verifiable evidence, please.
@@joedennehy386 Exactly. We don't even have to know what it is. I suspect 'they' and 'their world' will be very very different, but with the same universal physics. Who knows?
Regarding the idea that the aliens keep crashing and how this is at odds with their apparent technological sophistication or at odds with more aliens wanting to keep visiting...we would only be able to know for sure about those which had crashed, but not necessarily how many more had "successful" missions, which may have even gone undetected, and therefore we don't know what proportion the crashed spacecraft would be of the total number of alien visits. Perhaps it is actually very low and there have been thousands of undetected visits to our planet.
Exactly. If an aircraft doesn’t crash, there most likely won’t be evidence of a safe landing or them visiting, therefore, we don’t know about it, but it doesn’t mean they weren’t here or it didn’t happen. It’s as simple as if the tree fell but nobody heard it did it still make a sound? Of course. For a guy who claims to be all about critical thinking there was very little if any of it present in this video and is one of his worst for sure. Open minded curiosity is dead and fixed hyper rationality mindset of appearing to have it all figured out is alive and well.
Good technical point, but even it were a small fraction it still seems like a high failure rate especially for manned craft. Consider mankind's relative success with Apollo to cite a small example. And that also represents a red flag contradiction --- logically a high number of exploratory visits should be by unmanned probes. There should be no "bodies".
@@vikramgupta2326 How do you know that these “aliens” aren’t independent civilians exploring our realm? How do you know that they’re not like humans with flight licenses in their realm, who purchased crafts for the purpose of exploration into our realm at their own risks? In such scenario, accidents will happen no matter how much more advanced such species might be. They point is, there are many possible scenario to show that such beings on such crafts don’t have to be invincible to get here.
If we ever actually got visited by, what would presumably be, a species much more advanced than us, what makes anyone think that any Earthly government could cover them up? If we ever get visited, they will call all the shots, not humans. And they're likely not crashing. This guy Grusch really hasn't brought forth anything at all in terms of "game changing" evidence. Just, he said she said. Also, if there was ever a day that comes where Earth gets visited, the world would drastically change forever. There would be such mass panic and chaos etc. I don't think people really think of that very plausible scenario if a visitation event actually happened. This ain't Hollywood folks. Edit: Almost forgot, great video Dr Todd! I love how reasonable and down-to-Earth you are.
This is exactly my tots. Why would an alien race able to fly the cosmos to earth , obviously far superior to us technologically and intelligently , yet would be sneaking like rats playing hide n seek 😂😂😂😂. Man went to the moon n dropped a freaking flag, sent a rover to mars , we obviously aren’t sneaking around in our solar system . So why would a so called intelligent Alien race do otherwise 😂😂😂
So they're so advanced that they never have a mishap? We are a pretty advanced species and we do some really dumb shit on a daily basis. Maybe that's why they hide the truth, because they don't want the chaos and panic?
In the full interview they looked at 3 declassified uap videos. He said I can't share the classified videos, but alluded to the fact that if the government declassified those, he's seen ones more incredible that are still classified. I'm skeptical, but you have to watch the full interview before your commentary. Unless you just forgot or missed it
I think the point of the claims was to alert congress so they can investigate and uncover the proof. Might just be nonsense but enough people care about it and it's their government to petition answers from.
His timing isn't weird at all, they recently passed a whistleblower protection act
yeah idk what this bozo is on about the us goverment has already said ufos are real
there's a difference between whistle blowing and crying wolf. I blame meth, opioids, and joe rogan
Pressure is building... there is something to this.
@@NoflectioN can you further explain that comment
Great point because before this act he could have easily been prosecuted
He actually did turn over documents and testified under oath to congress . Obviously, I’m skeptical, but I think it still needs to be looked into.
Indeed this vid seems very loaded instead of impartial and lacking background . If your going to present a counter argument provide relevant ie the passed whistle blower bill. Plus this testimony has been in the works for some time so not riding the wave. Plus comments like junkyard says more about this whole presentations legitamcy than anything.
We have people who can testify under oath that they have seen Elvis after his death. They can write this in documents and nevertheless they are mistaken. It is pretty simple if you see Elvis bring him with you and if you "find" a vehicle just take a part of it.. Never come home from an alien abduction without taking some high tech with you.
@@ks-hg5vo Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. There's zero reason to believe this claim.
@@ghostexits I don't think Grusch cares one way or another whether you believe him or whether you don't. I know and have spoken with friends in the military and have a close relative who directs publicity for NASA. Not only is Area 51 an open secret but military attitudes toward it are blase and pretty relaxed. My biggest concern is the way American military in particular finds ways to sidestep the Geneva Convention and treat Visitors with suspicion and violence. The paranoia of the human species (specifically male) will ultimately be its catalyst for extinction. Our military continues to see itself as somehow at the very apex of the food chain and awards itself far greater powers than any civilian branch of government. Including the power to create--and to keep--innumerable secrets.
I respect your input, and hi. It has been looked into for the past 70 years, in its latest incarnation. I am old enough to remember the 50s.
The whole point about this David Grusch story isn't that we should believe everything he says without evidence, but that there should be an investigation done so that the truth (whatever it is) can come out. That's what David wants as well.
Well said
Very important and true. The UFO thing is secondary, but if it's true, a shitstorm of allegations is imminent.
But of course he is going to say that regardless of whether he is lying or not, because he wants to seem legitimate. He's not going to say " NO don't investigate it, please don't!" because that would look silly. I am not saying he is lying. Maybe he is being truthful but he is mistaken or has been deceived? I don't know, but saying that there should be an investigation does not prove that the claims he is making are true.
@@jamesemerson4102 just do a little more digging and you will find that the governments are hiding something. What that actually is, is up for debate. Part of the way he can get this information released is he can not knowingly make accusations that are a lie, criminal charges can be held against him if found to be the case. He first started going down this route in 21/22. Give the man a break, he was just doing his job and following process laid out in front of him. He will now no doubt live under a rock for his own sanity and safety.
Even if it were to be investigated, think of who will be investigating it 🤔
Fact: Grusch signed an oath wearing to the veracity of his claims. He stands to be legally punished if he is lying.
Fact: Grusch 'was' a CIA Intelligence officer, the institution that spreads misinformation and performs psyops on the public. If that goon announced that the sky is blue, I'd go outside and check.
Well i'm sold. That's like saying "on my momma", you know it's true
He may well believe what he's saying. That doesn't make anything he says true or accurate. Witness statements do not constitute scientific proof. Simple as.
@@init000 He didn't even witness anything, he just heard it from a colleague.
@@TheVideoLounge no he received direct information about the programs, their name and their locations. That classified info was sent to Congress and will be discussed soon in hearings.
I think that any alien flying past Earth would lock their door.
😂
Lol 😅😂😅😂😅😂
Earth is for sure the “Detroit” of the milky way
Why don't they try to help us since we're the insane asylum of the universe
Hilarious, I’ve only heard that one 100 times
Maybe he just came forward because the latest bill has whistleblower protection . 🤔
according to this guy and my mom ufos arent real...ive seen 3 and got it on video and so did other people...but i guess this guys right im stupid and wrong damn really got me
Well he got everything he was gonna say approved before he took it public.
@Jesse Viveros and yet he didn't reveal anything. All he said was "the aliens are real and the USA government are hiding it" which is an old hot potato that's been passed around for generation.
@@Kangaroojack1986 yeah but it's part of the DOD dopser approval which simply put reviews his statements and approves them for public release to insure that no classified info is stated
@@openleft4214 so they clearly didn't have a problem with what he was gonna say, or they would have told him to fuckoff
Lets also not forget that, as a matter of fact - there are craft operating in our airspace that the government has admitted they can neither identify, nor interdict. This by definition makes the airspace insecure. While not evidence when taken alone, it is reasonable and urgent to investigate Mr. Grusch's claims for the sake of national security alone.
You are not allowed to smuggle in the word “craft”. That automatically assumes design and eliminates naturally occurring phenomena.
Old Toddy is much more focused on virtue signaling to the left than focusing on mental health topics these days. I know what you're thinking, how are UFOs a partisan issue? It turns out after Q and Covid, any conspiracy theories that distrusts the government are rejected by the left wholesale. Now here we are and the psychology youtubers are telling us UFOs arent real.
@@horacesheffield7367well that ignores the testimony of the military personnel present while the 'tic tac 'ufo was filmed. They claimed they observed and interacted with the craft visually, not just through radar.
doesn't mean it's truthful.
@@horacesheffield7367Who says they are Extraterrestrial Intelligent life forms
I love this channel. It’s probably the best comedy show out there. The dead pan delivery is outstanding. Well done !!
It's satire, I get it now! Dr. G is probably a big ufo nut! HAH! Probably got probed (and liked it!) it all makes sense now, thank you!
He’s a goon who talks slow and annoying on purpose
gotta love when the living embodiment of valium calls an airforce intelligence commander 'vapid'
LOL, nice burn😂
What's wrong with that? People call Beyonce vapid. The person you see in music videos and concerts isn't actually like that in person. You act like the brass in the military are extremely smart or interesting, have you seen Milley or that trans officer? Did you watch Generation Kill? 1st Marine Recon, Charlie company's Captain was actually a dumb ass. Many of the Marines talked about how terrible he was and he couldn't lead, but yet he's a Captain of one of America's most elite fighters.
Grande needs Peterson and his farts have no smell
@@thomaslove7560dumb comment
Nailed it...and he's a pretend 'doctor' practicing a pseudoscience. Not one doctor truly understands how the brain works and it's chemical make-up.
"Grusch doesn't appear to possess critical thinking skills" He's only a highly respected intelligence officer in intelligence community who is highly respected due to his analytic and critical thinking abilities.
I agree. That was a harsh statement he made against Grusch. It was disrespectful. I’m not sure if Grusch made valid claims, but this guy is kind of rude.
Spot on!
Let's get the info in front of the relevant committee and investigate it and out this to bed.
Actually he is highly respected for being able to disseminate false information with a straight face many of my respected.colleagues who actually know someone who knows someone in the service told me so. A high IQ and a facility with puzzle solving or code breaking or whatever maxwell smart activity one may think of doesn't imply dexterity with anything beyond itself. plenty of highly intelligent dupes, like PhD nuclear phycicists who are staunch fundamentalists attest to this and the contrary, alot of so called average people who don't fall for any BS. His info is useless is the good doctor's point I think it is in form and content lacking substance. Government may still deserve scrutiny could be hiding all sorts of things. Could be testing the waters. Huh huh? Yeah, could be playing mind games with us. Oh boy.
Much more likely he's still a psyop. US gov't has been using "ALIENS" as a cover story for decades. Rubes continue to buy it.
He’s testified under oath, if he’s lying he goes to jail! He’s turned over physical evidence to the inspector general! If I was you I’d be sitting tight until this washes out!
I cannot stand ignorance and closed mindedness
How would they prove that no one told him about aliens?
@Roger McMillanSame old story, dramatic UFO/alien talk and absolutely zero solid evidence. He is just another fantasist much like Lazar.
@@PROTAGONIST_48 Sorry but everyone is ignorant until they learn the information. I am ignorant of quantum mechanics and lots of other specialist fields. Close mindedness would include people who believe in aliens on this planet and refuse to accept we have no good evidence of them. Most conspiracy minded people are close minded. You must have a tough time with all the things and people you can't stand.
@Roger McMillan the difference and what many here seem to conveniently ignore about him is that he filed a FORMAL complaint to the Inspector's Office of the Intelligence Community, and they accepted the complaint as being "urgent and credible". This is now a legal investigation, and he is accountable for anything he has filed in his complaint. That means that if he is purposely lying, he can and most definitely will be punished by the law, with jail or other severe penalties. This is not a "typical" case of UFO claims because there is great accountability at play. It would be intellectually dishonest to assume that someone would put their livelyhood at risk just for a quick minute of fame. Does that mean there are aliens? No. That just means he is the first person with high clearance willing to risk their livelyhood with these claims. That is interesting, and should be taken seriously.
I imagine his coworkers at the NRO knowing how excited he gets about aliens and just trolling him with fantastical stories and fake documents they made.
So, you’re stating that the NRO is riddled with clowns and practice jokers who are willing to destroy a man’s life for a laugh?
that's exactly what I think happened
'Believe nothing you hear, and half of what you see'.
This is awfully researched. The Inspector General said his claims were credible after talking to the witnesses.
it makes no different what anyone says even the president himself if you dont show the evidence to back up your claims its just words. the time for evidence is now, talking isnt evidence
& much much more, (I covered it) so, much, more lol 👍✨🙏💫
LOL
Yes, I too automatically believe everything a government employee says. ESPECIALLY when they're telling me exactly what I want to hear- That's when I know they CAN'T POSSIBLY be leading me down the garden path....
I mean, who ever heard of the US gov't, lying about UFO's?!? Unthinkable!!!
Just a couple of clear videos and photos please ...that's All these whistle blowers need to do ...if not why? Until then blaa blaaa blaaa .
If Grusch's account was an isolated incident, it could easily be explained away. However, he's only the latest example of many credible witnesses who have reported on the UAP phenomena. This man swore an oath before Congress that he is telling the truth. We shouldn't be so eager to dismiss such people.
He could be 100% honest but this could be a reverse conspiracy, where the conspiracy is actually that US intelligence wants us (or someone) to think they’re capable of perpetrating such an elaborate conspiracy.
where else he gonna get this kind of attention? no where
it's still just hearsay, people just told him this stuff and he got no evidence.
There are just as many "credible" accounts of religious phenomena. It serves us well to be skeptical of grandiose claims. Many of us prefer to see actual evidence before handing our brains over to beliefs
Swearing an oath doesn't really mean that much anymore. For too many government employees, swearing an oath on hire is just a technicality.
He did claim to see top secret photos and other evidence which he presented to closed door session of congress but can not reveal to the public due to security clearance issue. It's illegal for him to reveal that to the public. Also he did not get clearance to discuss Roswell as well. His attorney has made it clear as well that he can't reveal anything still designated top secret classification. If you add up his testimony with others, there is congruence. And he's not riding any wave, he did his job per the task force assignment and is simply stating that they were black balled and shut out of this special access black ops program.
He is lying. Let me ask you this: have you ever held an S/TS/SCI clearance? If it was that big of an issue, there would be no way for the government to stop you from releasing the truth. You can always run and hide, but wouldn't you want the world to know the truth, even if you are mysteriously killed? When you have even a TS, you aren't followed home and reminded every hour on the hour to not say anything. You seem like the type who would fall for anything without finding out if it was true, first! Go out there and find out instead of supporting a known liar and scam artist.
Agreed with above. Everyone. Please do your research into how security clearances work. This is not some CZcams bum making claims. This is not a case of single source hearsay. He HAS the evidence but even to admit this to the public at this time would be breaking his oath. Please do more research and this becomes clear. He HAS not only documents photos and VIDEOS and more “first hand” witnesses that were in these programs. I’m not some alien kook but sheesh people, please understand what it means to be a whistleblower at this level, the risks he faces and the people who are supporting him. At the very least we need to follow up and get to the bottom of these claims and push to get the evidence released to the public.
If he is adding Roswell into the conspiracy theory, then we can completely discount everything he says since we know Roswell wasn't about aliens. Roswell is more like a religion where people 'suddenly' discovered facts 30 years after the incident but nothing until then.
Grande is a small minded man , forcing his deductive reasoning recipe on to all subjects every few days now. He should make this an entirely opinion piece from now on. Saying words like " I feel, or it is my opinion, or I don't really know much about this subject, but...." To at least not look like a know it all , ignorant , small minded dufus.
Why speak at all when not presenting any evidence, is the question, as all is superfluous.
It always gets me when skeptics demand proof from people calling for an investigation. If you had proof an investigation wouldn't be needed. It's putting the cart before the horse. "Prove to me the conclusions of your investigation before the investigation begins".
That’s a really good point! I will be using this!
If you had proof, of course an investigation would be needed.
I have never heard that. I have heard skeptics say give us some evidence before we waste millions of dollars investigating nonsense. So far, in the more than 50 years I've been watching the claims spew forth, there has been no good evidence to spend a dollar investigating anything.
sometimes common sense suffices. i find it funny that these ufos only crash land in places where the us military has immediate access to. no civilian witnesses in an age where everyone has a camera phone, just us military personnel apparently. the us military is rather nonchalant about such a bombshell dropping. and lastly, the whistleblower may be mistaken. also, it's important to understand that just because you don't think there's anything to gain, doesn't mean the whistleblower doesn't see it another way. anyway, there is a lot of things that make this case very silly. i'd like to believe him, but he has provided nothing but his credentials and a bunch of words lol
@@BigSnipp Not really. Everything is normally investigated in the DOD just because of previous lack of conduct. But what these skiptics want is just to tell you you're wrong without anything even being put upfront to show this or that. Mick West for example is a habitual I believe the government bs talking points. I'm going to trust the experts instead of some video game developer on aerodynamic objects
It's not true to say he never saw any photographs. He supplied documents (some of which contained photographs) to the congress.
So he says.
Interesting that the official bodies haven't come forward and said he's talking out his arse.
His testimony is very damaging yet there seems no official rebuttal
Correct!
Why not just throw these documents and photographs into the public? surely he would gain massive support if any of it is relevant.. i wouldnt be so confident that the congress or people in power would do anything with it regardless whether its real or not.
@@jhozthron4415 Because it is classified, and he probably doesn't want to risk spending the rest of his life in prison.
If Grusch is right, the AARO statement means nothing because they were kept in the dark anyway. AARO was seated at the kids table.
But it does mean AARO is either too afraid of retaliation or finds his claims so dubious that they're willing to throw their former cohort under the bus
I’ve heard (& have covered this extensively on my channel) that AARO was in the dark about it AND that they revised their statement to “aren’t authorized to verify” and “may not want to verify”
Ross coulhart and lou elizando have said the same thing
That they couldn't get the necessary clearances to do their jobs
@@Ugkbaby214 It requires a security clearance level even the president doesn't have. Bill Clinton said when he asked about UFOs, he got nowhere.
Bingo. Head of AARO admitted in his recent public meeting with NASA that AARO does NOT have access to classified data.
As an Airman that was involved in Reagan's SDI Program in the 80s. I've been skeptical of "Aliens are coming." ever since then.
This is a high level intelligence figure under oath. Several credible journalists have put their careers on the line to say they have also spoken to many sources that back this up. Don’t let an emotional commitment to skepticism drain you of all your common sense. Where there’s smoke there is fire; either there is truth to this or elements of the government really want people to THINK that there is .. they why here either way is fascinating
@RogerMcMillanuhhhhhh
"Don’t let an emotional commitment to skepticism drain you of all your common sense".... I love the way you put that part so perfectly, thank you.
@@sequinifyme too!
I often scroll down to the comment section and sit in admiration when I come across a comment that eloquently states my thoughts at the time.
This was one of them..
Whwmere there is smoke there is an eager audience for this stuffeho really want to believe and overlook the lack of actual evidence
@@davidwilliams7552 Just as one example outside the context of the current revelations. Take Roswell. There is an FBI memo literally saying the Air Force told them that their radar interfered with the control systems of two disks in New Mexico, which crashed, and they also recovered six bodies. The FBI said well that memo was after the fact by a few years and might have just been reporting a “story” people were circulating. ( This is in the 1950s BEFORE the skeptical narrative that this exact story was all invented post hoc in 1978 by Stanton Friedman and Jesse Marcel.) The military press officer who initially put the story out that it was a flying disk and then changed it to a weather balloon left a signed affidavit in 2002 after his death that it was crashed disks and he person soy saw alien bodies - but the skeptics claim that he was old and his memory was bad and he was under the influence of UFO conspiracy published who wrote the affidavit for him and just had him sign it. All of these is fair enough, maybe, but if it turns out in this one instance there really was a crash .. you would say it was pretty much in plain sight almost the whole time no?
For the current claims, if I’m a betting person something like “the Vatican helped the U.S. recover a ufo” is probably some kind of disinformation. However, “extraordinary claims” here is doing pretty heavy lifting, so heavy that no one seems to have even bothered to ask them if it is true - even though a well placed and credible U.S. intelligence officer seems to want to tell us that it is. Again, no one is saying to believe it, for one thing it could all be disinformation, but actually try to get to the bottom of it, yes.
He has provided Congress and the Inspector General under oath with the location of the spacecraft, the name of the program managers, and the names of the liaisons between the USIC and Private aerospace company. He wants Congress to investigate his claims, and has an Inspector General investigating his complain and has found it to be urgent.
Congress now plans to invite him on to testify under oath in a public setting. This is an admirable person who like he said in the interview he doesn't want to be in his 60s or 70s regretting for having kept this a secret.
None of that means he is telling the truth
@@seanpittaway5341 this is someone who has gone further than any previous whistleblower by testifying under oath for not just congress but the inspector general.
This man is not doing this with the chance to go to jail just to make ufo Twitter happy and Mick West cry.
Let´s see what happens. Wild times, i would not be suprised if things get even wilder!
@@seanpittaway5341It doesn't but at least he is making it easy to prove/disprove for Congress
Thank you @@catdeerduck. These are all pretty basic facts.
I’ve bee a fan of pretty much every one of Dr Grande’s videos - but this one won’t age well in a new world managed by our lizard overlords..
I thought the lizards work for the preying mantis race.
Lol
Rofl!
As a Freemason, I hiss at ye.
"hittthhhhh.....hitthhhhhh."
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I watched the video yesterday morning with David’s interview on News Nation. Decided I’d watch it again because it was so good, 45 minutes later and the video said private and was gone. I had just said to my husband, I can’t believe the government allowed this information out to the public. I think he’s telling the truth.
We all know how you feel about UFOs. Not everyone is lying. I believe this warrants more attention.
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which can not fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is contempt prior to investigation."
--Herbert Spencer
Here’s the thing. Guy isn’t the only one that has said the exact same thing. Most holding super high clearances. Kind of makes you pause at the very least and ask why all these people who were vetted telling all lies.
Is everyone telling the same story a benchmark for truth? Or a benchmark for a religious cult?
um...no you are wrong. Do you have any examples? lots of people say the same things, yes, its the same tired story, the only reason Grusch has gotten more attention is because he is has 'credentials'
Exactly! This is why I continue to cover this story, alone with Steven Greer’s disclosure National press conference today
Fame? Money? Mental illness? Theres no proof, only rumours. Youre saying if enough people say they saw santa it must be true?
Because the US government has a long and storied history of using aliens and ufos as a cover story for their weapons and defense systems testing? It’s like everyone forgot that drones exist and that they’re currently being tested for autonomous weapons use.
People find it difficult to perceive reality when it intrudes between them and what they want to believe.
Cognitive dissonance
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I knew the Holistic cops would find me sooner or later. I will surrender peacefully.
People put more faith in thousands of accounts and testimonies than in a simple no from their government.
@@aboveyou686 Well, you are obviously right. There is too much evidence to reasonably assume there is nothing to this. So, I don't. However, I'm skeptical of this whistleblower for the reasons pointed out in the video and others.
We don't know if it's only hearsay just yet. He allegedly has classified material that he did turn over to investigators, but cannot make public at the moment. We have to wait out on this one before calling it hearsay.
David Grusch the type of guy to quit his job and book it to Vegas after receiving an email from a newly discovered rich Nigerian relative who is about to leave him a fortune.
He didn't turn it over to investigators, he turned it over to the intelligence community inspector general himself, who found the claims "credible and urgent" which speaks VOLUMES.
Ha ha ha ha , you clearly don't understand hearsay. He hasn't seen Aliens, or Spacecraft, but he knows people who have, That is the very definition of "hearsay" please keep up
@@scroopynooperz9051Sounds more like you. His credentials say otherwise. My bet would be that either this is a deliberate misinformation campaign organized by someone in the government or his allegations may have some substance. There is a small chance that he is a schizophrenic.
@@joedennehy386You clearly are incapable of reading and comprehending a sentence. "And he turned over classified evidence..."
Dr Grande is afraid of the possibility of aliens. And we need a different dr grande to analyze this dr grande’s fear of potential aliens. Stay strong, dr grande
Been a pilot for 45 years, for over 20 plying the grumpy skies at 30 000 feet or more - often at night.
Seen many beautiful heavenly sights, meteorites, Northern Lights, the ISS and satellites stately floating by…
Never ever did I think any of that was extraterrestrial!
Am I just unlucky - or don’t have much imagination?
I had 1,000 hours in navy cockpits, and I never saw a darn thing, and never heard even a rumor of anyone else who did. Actually I did see a spacecraft once. Flying South off the coast of Florida to Puerto Rico, far overhear was this incredible light trail … it was a NASA rocket launch 🤣
You have a clear mind and rationality. If you see something, you first assume that there is some logical explanation, instead of other gullible people who jump to conclusions that it's extra-terrestrial life or some other nutter conspiracy. There was that incident where people thought UFOs were crash landing, when it was actually a rocket that was breaking apart when coming back into the atmosphere late at night.
Lots of people haven’t seen one. Also, we would not even necessarily know whether we had or not. It has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with your imagination. 🌍🦋👍🏾💜
That means the phenomenon doesn't exist.
I'm sure more pilots have seen nothing than saw something. That doesn't mean you just dismiss the ones that have. Being a pilot, what is your thought on the Chicago O'Hare incident?
They just passed a law allowing him to legally come out, that's why it 's "convienient timing." Direct witnesses are evidence, they confirmed the witnesses are real. Appently you didn't research even what is going on at all.
Well, if these witnesses coming forward to testify are the ones with the firsthand knowledge of these Alien spacecraft then what do they need him for? He doesn't know anything other than what they told him. They could have just come forward by themselves.
Yesterday Dr. Greer, had a press conference to which there was information given to congress, he has been on this track for 30 years. With many new whistle blowers
I don't know about Greer
Lol he keeps mentioning on how no "triangle shaped" planes exist therefore it must be a UFO and for whatever reason he's naive to Technology demonstration aircraft. And the "black triangle" aircraft he claims that was videotaped near the border was a patrol drone.
@@Sage16226 Dr. Steven Greer is an interesting man. He has a few documentaries out.
Greer is in a bubble. You'll be there in that bubble forever going around the bubble you go.
@Adam Burling you're not wrong. His evidence being all eye witnesses and a few sketchy documents makes it a difficult thing to believe. Most of his eye witnesses are credible people though so it's not like everyone is a blatant liar. Just really wierd with no hard evidence.
I appreciate people who believe in conspiracy theories... they seem to be very creative in their thinking and coming up with the most implausible solutions to explain certain plot holes. I am fascinated by their ability to go beyond common sense and logic. I wish I had that kind of thinking! No matter how hard I try, I just can't seem to find a conspiracy theory to subscribe to. My husband and I watched a video of this UFO whistleblower once and he automatically was on board. Meanwhile, I just saw a man with lots of unsubstantiated claims and hearsay... what the heck is wrong with me?! Ugh... i just want so badly to have at least one interesting wacko conspiracy theory under my belt just like most people...
Start with the article, listing out all the people corroborating David's testimony. Follow their impeccable credentials of high ranking service within the IC and military community. Many lead to hundreds of others who are also experts, some who have direct evidence with metamaterials and testimony both. David Grusch also holds a Master's Degree in physics. He states, as do many other physicists who have worked within both classified and unclassified UFO programs, that many material samples could only be manufactured in zero gravity environment, and isotope ratios in some instances our science cannot yet recreate. The Tic Tac in the 2004 Nimitz Encounter was tracked on radar traversing from 80k ft to 50ft in .78 seconds. This is over 42k mph.
Stick to robbing the rich to give to the poor, Robin Hood.
Science and rational thinking are not your thing.
Conspiracy theories are unavoidable. In this case you must choose between two: That the Military is full of cultists, scientologists and crackpots in high level security positions who have invented a story about Aliens and are promoting it to the world, or that the Intelligence services have Alien craft in their possession.
@@Robinhood1966still no valid scientific evidence to back their bull sheet claims. Stories sell I guess.
I don't think Grusch lacks credibility. It's all very interesting, and there's nothing wrong with keeping an open mind. Problem is, we just don't have very much to go on. So we will have to wait and see if more comes of it.
My friend encountered them and the government threatened him . He told me 10 years ago in q movie threater and said don't even wink at him after this
@@notbornagainbornright5046 When did it happen? Who was involved? What was said? Is this documented with the police or anyone? No, so people saw Elvis after his death.
"Problem is, we just don't have very much to go on." Then why should anyone care?
I agree with you. I generally like Dr. Grande, but in this case I think he's being a bit of a dick.
Grusch is whistleblowing because he was trying to investigate something while at the AARO, which was authorized by Congress to do UAP investigations, and he claims that he was blocked from doing so. What was he investigating? People were telling him things about about alien spacecraft, crashed pilots and all that. Does he have direct proof of this? No. Why? BECAUSE HE WAS BEING BLOCKED FROM TRYING TO UNCOVER IT. That's the whole point. Why is he going public? Because maybe outside pressure will allow him and others to at least try to prove or disprove whether or not some or all of the stories are legit. I mean, heresay evidence IS evidence, but it needs to be supported by other physical evidence. Let him at least be allowed to TRY to find the physical evidence before you dismiss him as being a goof.
So all I can say is come on, Todd. Quit being such a reactionary skeptic. Maybe Grusch is an attention-seeking kook, but maybe he's not. This story hasn't played out yet.
the thing we have to go in is his claims that he had top level security clearance and was denied access to Secret programs, he looked for documents on these programs and found some concerning things, we cannot see them because WE dont have HIS clearence, as SOON as congress views these documents and makes them DeClassified then we can see whats going on, his claims are substatial enough, he gave the evidence to the Inspector general of intellegence and he viewed them and said "you can say something about it BUT you cannot show these classified documents, Davids attourneys coincedentally are owned by the Inspector general of intellegence, THAT MEANS, the Inspector general SAW these documents and then said "holy hell, yeah you need to tell people, and ill even be your attourney"
I’m not crazy and I attended grad school at the University of Michigan. I saw one when I was 17 in the middle of nowhere in Michigan. It was different than most of the ones I hear described though. Black and triangular, smooth edges that were rounded didn’t seem like it had much of a bubble where the cockpit or in the middle would be, it was hovering over a House on the side of the road or at least that’s what it look like I was with my mom and aunt we were headed to the grocery store which was over half an hour away because we lived out in the middle of nowhere. We pulled over and started yelling at each other, because we didn’t know what to do then before we could turn around to head back home it was gone it was gone that fast. It was the weirdest thing I’ve ever seen.
I figured your analysis would be as such
Sorry wrong thread I meant that for grande
There was an incident here in West Michigan in 1994 in the Holland to Muskegon area where a lot of people saw lights zipping rapidly back and forth over the Lake Michigan shoreline. I remember it made the news even, because so many people were calling local police to report them.
Don't worry, babe. The triangles can't hurt you now.
@@captainshakesbeard2453 She wasn't afraid to get hurt. That's you, you are scared of getting hurt and you are projecting it onto her. 😊
Newsreaders used to mock ufo stories as well. Not so much in recent years. Keep this one on file.
I don't think we need to mock another person making a claim that he has no evidence for. Why bother?
I could never imagine suffering from skeptopathy to the degree that Todd does. Poor guy .
He just knows crazy. Our whistleblower could have been let go because he has cracked over time.
It's textbook Cognitive Dissonance, ironically. So embarrassing to see a "doctor"not realize the basics of cognitive science he claims to understand.
Imagine suffering from the degree of delusion he does. The average Joe is about as qualified to make perform these analyses as Grande is.
@@titianmom dude, he's done sworn testimony, unless he's got a federal prison fetish, why would you lie to congress?
Well... no. Grusch has seen the photos. He provided these and the backup documents to the inspector, via the channel used for classified materials. Or at least that is what he claims.
I came to comment the same thing. Dr Grande- Grusch has seen photos of the crafts, videos, and talked with people who have been harmed by these things. He is only one degree of separation... he wasn't able to place his own hand on the spacecraft so to speak, but others before him have said they have (thinking Bob Lazar). Why this is different is Grusch had a more senior position and has a lot to lose by going on the record. To me its either true, and the higher ups are ready to blow the lid on it, or a planned misinformation leak.
@@ladycymbeline Totally agree. :)
With this level of critical thinking....... Nevermind instead of explaining standards of evidence I should probably tell you about my uncle who is a totally real Prince that needs your help.
@@GrahamBrannon You must not understand how classified information work and what they’ll do to officers who violate these rules. Grush is NOT going to jail by releasing classified information for you!
@@akira28shima32 Uh I think a LOT of people would risk jail for being known as the person to blow the lid off the biggest story on the planet in the history of ever. They've done so for less! Instead this dipshit is just going to make some money on the crank tour circuit.
I welcome our new Alien overlords. They can't possibly do a worse job running this clown show then we are 🤣
I just hope they’re diverse, because that’s all that matters.
What makes you think our current overlords aren't already Aliens? That would explain a lot of crazy sh!t going on around the world lately!
TRUE!!
Maybe If we were ruled by aliens then we could all get along 😂
spoiler alert theyve been here the whole time running shit. thats why it sucks
He's basically whistleblowing the plot of the X-Files. He's lost his career and he doesn't even have any good anecdotes for the trouble.
Secret evidence is always forthcoming but never arrives.
Grusch hasn't claimed to prove anything, he has merely introduced a topic. It's up to the Senate committee now to explore the topic. Grusch is using whistleblower cover recently provided by that Senate. Bearing in mind the committee is privy to much information so far kept from us, it's not unreasonable to wonder if we are being gently introduced to a topic many will find hard to believe, even strongly resist.
When multiple people in your industry tell you the same thing and you are one of the most trusted people in that industry and especially when that industry is essential to your country's defence it is probably wise to investigate further. I also notice that you forgot to mention a major part of the overall story, namely, that the current Inspector General called these reports both urgent & credible! Also the lawyer representing Mr Grusch just happens to be the very first appointed Inspector General in US history! As to the evidence we ALL want to see: clearly that evidence will be classified! However, what Grusch is asking, after his marathon 11 hours of testament in front of congress, which by the way, was also under oath ( you forgot that part as well) is that congress should investigate. I hope when more of this truth comes out that you have the professionalism to acknowledge the "writing on the wall" . I certainly will be doing the same if i am proven wrong... Richard Agar (NZ)
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I think the Trump era has shown us that 'the government' is filled with people with poor critical thinking skills. So people believing things that have no evidence is just as likely whether you work in government or not. I'm 68 and I've been reading and watching all the claims since I was a kid. So far, no good evidence. Hard to believe it would stay covered up this long.
spot on
Circus Party in the USA... Running since 1947... But I never have seen this Circus... and I love Circus,... If this time the Clowns don't come out dancing... forget-it !
Thank you. He's doing exactly what he legally is supposed to so he doesn't get Manning-ed or Snowden-ed and then immediately people are calling him crazy.
Whistleblowers can't win. If you break the law, you're called a traitor, if you follow it you're called a liar.
You didn’t even bother to watch the full interview. The Inspector General of the Department of Defense found his whistleblower complaint “credible” and “urgent”.
It’s too early to pass judgement on this one. The complaint has been filed and it’s now up to the appropriate parties to investigate to the fullest extent. Until then, there’s not too much to say other than what has been said before - these claims are not new.
No it’s not.
The REO speed wagon reference was pretty damn funny!! My stomach hurts from laughing 😂
I’ll give him that
(Despite the fact that I happen to have a different since I’ve covered a lot more details in my videos on this)💫
Good song! I don' know why people make thing up like this.
Well, talk is cheap when the story is good.
The REO Speedwagon ending was a nice touch for those old enough to get it. 🤣
My son in law asked his father on his deathbed about 5 years ago if all of this UFO and alien talk was real. His father had been in the USAF and was stationed at Area 51….his Dad tied him “Son, believe everything you hear and then some!” I believe him.
Thank you for that extremely sobering analysis.
There have been many good decent intelligent people that have come out to speak the truth on this topic, but because we all have been propagandized our whole lives on this, we are quick to ridicule not believe and pass off these people and their stories.
The other side of the coin is that people see the appeal to authority and they instantly believe 100% of what they're told, as if the fact that these people have a security clearance makes them infinitely better than us little people at sifting through and dealing with information. They're just people with their dumbass biases and misconceptions, failing to produce physical evidence.
I was like Dr. grande. I never in a million years believed in UFO's and aliens. I just thought it was made up stories to get attention or money. Then, I retired (1 year ago) and finally had time on my hands. I have seen many documentaries on UFO's and aliens, and am starting to believe maybe they do exist. March 1, 2023 confirmed it all. I can finally admit I saw a UFO out over the ocean, and I just wish I took a picture of it. Of course, nobody would believe me unless I had a picture, but those who know me (surely nobody on CZcams).
The only propaganda I've ever seen was alien conspiracy stuff that was proven false, people proven to be liars etc.
The idea that ships are crashing here or flying around in our atmosphere lit up like a Christmas tree is literally 1950s sci Fi nonsense mixed with the limitations of that era's technology. Things that no longer even makes sense considering the technology we have today, alien ships wouldn't need to be in our atmosphere to observe or study us, but that was all made up before high powered telescopes like Hubble existed or we understood DNA.
I've never once understood why they would be lit up at all, if a plane turns it's lights off lf it's practically invisible if it's high enough or it's night time.
There are intelligent people who believe all kinds of things that are not true.
There's no evidence of any of this and all things point to literally every famous UFO person being a grifter.
Aliens are coming here with transgalactic craft... and crashing. They can find us on an interstellar map somehow, cross vast distances, and a whole host of other things... but don't have an autopilot to stay airborne. They make no effort to recover their dead or their stuff, but apparently are operating covertly enough that they don't *want* to be seen. But they don't mind being autopsied and inventoried.
People ridicule it because it is ridiculous.
It's not the intelligence of people it's that there's not a shred of evidence nothing being put forward... zero ...the "cover up " theory is no longer working That's why people continue to be careful with the topic
If congress is taking this seriously, as in having hearings about the evidence, then so should we.
It's a distraction. They're up to something (what's new?)
@@amyconway9035but no idea what eh? brilliant
No we should not!!, people lie all the time including those at the top, consistently and for nefarious reasons, show the evidence to back up the claims words mean nothing.should we believe the man who claims he can fly in the sky with little wings because he says he can and he works for the president, dont go through life believing everything people tell you because they wear a shiny suit you are asking to be ripped off.
I mean Congress has hearings about some really dumb stuff
It's a Psyop for funding Space Force
Very clear and concise video that helps get anyone up to speed on this topic. Very well done thank you!
You're the expert. True. Fundamentally wrong though. He's a top-tier intelligence officer, literally optimized to decipher the quality of intelligence. His integrity is above reproach. Thus, this must be taken seriously, and at least investigated. Period.
If proven true. Academics will experience the largest shell shock, I say more than any religious groups.
agree. Think about people like Eric Weinstein who had spent their careers focusing on theories such as the Standard Model.... These tax paying PHD's have a lot of reason to be upset with their government.
@@darbycrash55 I def hear you.
yeah but he's lying. aliens aren't real. Period.
He's not even "the expert", he's just a guy with an opinion. An opinion based on his feelings.
...word! and I am here for it!
waiting patiently for Dr Grande to analyze Dr Grande
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maybe for an april fool's gag or some high sub count special. i would vote for this to become actuality.
Didn’t the whistleblower actually get the evidence that was provided to him to Congress? So it’s not “vapid hearsay” when he has seen classified proof and testimony, just not worked on it first hand?…
Still lacking evidence, as usual with these type of claims.
@@Danny-bd1chwhat kind of evidence would suit your fancy at this point?
Yes..Dr.G hasn't gone beyond the surface on this one, its ok I get it. Most people still dismiss it. Until the evidence is actually produced it wont change anything.
@@Danny-bd1ch that’s funny Danny, which congressman are you that saw all that classified evidence to determine this?
If you had been in the Carribbean during the Early 90s and saw what the DOD was testing in the Range they had above that seciton of ocean. You would not be so skeptical. The DOD has technology that is scary advanced. And you should be mad that a make believe show is being done to hide our real tech level. I was there I saw things that changed my world view.
In my opinion. David is telling the truth. Why would anyone whistleblow, with what has happened in the past.
Why would anyone risk everything.. unless, they had some seriously strong evidence, that will find the light of day when it is brought to the table.
The news and people on CZcams are downplaying the scenario and adding more information, putting words in his mouth and their own ideas.. belittling using sarcasm to discredit him.
Shame on those people. You will eat your words and be dumbfounded
Straight from a know it all , your logic is absolutely insane
So everyone is basically stupid ? With no reasoning skills or logical thinking capabilities. Hmmm, I guess it's just paranoia.
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Dr. Grande, here's what I got from David Grusch...he was working in AARO, but was not given the clearance to access this other program's work, e.g. recovered wreckage from "non-human" origin ships. That's it. That's what he presented to the Inspector General - inability to get access to the program to pursue his work further. His whistleblower claim was that this unavailable access was hampering his investigations but also just as his program AARO was made transparent to congress and the public, this other agency or agencies, should also be made transparent to congress and the public.
95% of all the media questions directed toward him were not on substantiating this simple fact. Instead, probably due to some personality or character trait which you could probably enlighten us with, he grandstands in a matter of fact way, somewhat bemusedly because none of the media questions really touch on the reason he is a whistleblower. Sure, he could stay silent or keep repeating - all I can tell you is what I told the Inspector General, but given the chance to be in the spotlight, good or bad, he was just throwing things out there that may well be his overblown imagination or paranoia. BUT, that is a secondary issue with him which has nothing to do with the fact of his whistleblowing. If he was working at Amazon and he found out that management was actively keeping workers at lower positions in the company, he might well "whistleblow" that with some facts that in this case would be unclassified, unlike with the Inspector General. BUT, he could still go on the news or social media and answer questions about what he "thinks" were the motivations, etc. etc. even mentioning anecdotal evidence from employees, but he is "in the spotlight".
Why am I writing about this? Because having been in the military myself, I understand how things work when you are trying to ferret out something important that no one else thinks is important for whatever reason. There is absolutely no inertia, so I can sense some of his frustration, however I do believe his actions were not the actions of a delusional fantasy. He's getting ripped apart by the media and he doesn't even know it. I would respectfully suggest another video focusing on this perspective, the media perspective and how someone like Grusch can be led around as if he had a nose ring AND not even realize what's happening.
Thanks for hearing me out.
NO ONE is that stupid.
My take, an oath to keep a secret is an oath... he broke it. I deeply dislike traitors no matter who it is. If the government is hiding evidence, they're doing it for a reason, think about the mass hysteria if people actually knew aliens were here. I, for one, would not take it well.🤔
Indeed. Well-said.
LIKE!
"...he was working in AARO" I stopped reading right there. He wasn't. At all. Not even close. You don't understand the basics.
If Dr.Grande does something silly, will he make a video about himself?
Perhaps an April Fools video?
He just DID something silly. He called a decorated combat officer of the USAF 'vapid'.
Interesting. One aspect of this is that he testified under oath. If he is lying he faces jail time.
He could be telling the truth about being told what he was told. That doesn't mean that the things he was told are all true. I don't understand how so many people have not realized this. He probably isn't lying. Does that mean that it's all true exactly how it seems? nope.
no he dont you're not jailed for lying
U don't get it. His complaint documents claims of retaliation. It doesn't substantiate ufo programs.
Dr. Grande, did you watch the hearings yesterday? I see now why he can’t reveal too much detail in an open setting. He could go to jail. He’s more than willing to give names, places, and details, but he can only do that in a SCIF, as of today the Oversight committee was denied access to a SCIF room.
Grusch may not be lying, but he's only relating what others have told him. He admits he hasn't actually seen alien spacecraft or alien bodies himself. This is called hearsay which is not even considered evidence in court.
Oh, this guy is irrational? You don't know WHY they crashed? Every heard of the "argument from ignorance?" How are you are Ph.D?
'Vapid' and 'vacuous' are two words that are underappreciated and underutilized when describing the makeup of our citizenry.
'Feckless' is another
Jejune.....
Yes, indubitably. 😂
Speak for yourself.
@@jeffmerklin2022 My, she uses the word "cute" a lot. I'm cute, this café is cute, now the bed is cute. Faye used the word "jejune" last night.
Hundreds of Commercial Airline pilot testimony : This guy is still a skeptic, hundreds of military personnel testimony : this guy is still skeptical, dozens and dozens of hours of footage of these craft : this guy is still skeptical, footage released from military cameras : this guy is still skeptical, hundreds of thousands of civilian reports of UFO's : this guy is still skeptical, Military whistleblowers come forward : this guy is still skeptical, congressional testimony from ex military and fighter pilots : this guy is still skeptical, Border patrol releases 10 UAP videos : this guy is still skeptical, former Presidents say they've seen UFO's : this guy is still skeptical, UFO's captured on radar and sensor data : this guy is still skeptical, two members of congress that are paid off by defense contractors and vote to shut down the UAP Disclosure act of 2023 : this guy is still skeptical. an 82 year old corrupt dementia patient doesn't campaign and receives 81 million votes the same time tens of millions of mail in ballots are used for the first time in our election gets elected : this guy isnt skeptical
Heard it from a friend who--heard if from a friend who…had me cracked up! Thanks for the chuckle?
I was not interested in UFO's but I always kept an open mind thinking how could we absolutely rule it out? It's interesting thinking about and hearing the stories.
The problem is that 99% of people (including BOTH believers AND "skeptics") can't distinguish the idea of "UFOs" (even assuming they turn out to be something unexplainable by present-day science) vs the idea of "alien spacecraft", even though there's literally ZERO evidence linking the two topics, besides 70+ years of movies, tv, comics, video games, toys, and cereal box art, plus a bunch of unsupported anecdotes.
I've been interested in UFOs since I was a kid, but it frustrates the hell out of me, the bizarre logic of most of the UFO scene, that "being open-minded" = "assuming that THE ONLY possible explanation for identifiable lights in the sky, is the exact 'alien spacecraft' narrative, that the entertainment industry has been pushing for half a century".
There's a quote (from Jaques Vallee, maybe? Idk) talking about that obsession with the Extra-terrestrial hypothesis I really like, which says (paraphrasing) "I expect the ultimate answer to the question of UFO's, to be something that simultaneously far more mundane, AND far more bizarre and unexpected, than human-shaped aliens in nuts-and-bolts space-ships"
It’s a waste of time.
They call you crazy if you talk about them. Academia hates UFOs, and so Psychologists can get fired for treating UFOs like real things.
@@750dollarman2 So you casually let this psychologist call people crazy for believing in it? Is it a waste of time or "magical thinking"?
Just think that there is a possibility. That's enough for now.
"How to serve man." It's a cook book!!
"Dead Alien Pilots."
Good name for a band.
The “whistleblower “ hasn’t proved anything so why is this a conversation?
People have been making the exact same claims for centuries
No evidence...No believing the claims. Pretty simple really.
Evidence is classified and is given to Congress
@@xykeem4805 Well then that means none of us have it. All you have done is make another claim. "Someone else has it!"
I don't think all the sightings are completely false. I think it's possible we have technology maybe 50 - 200 years more advanced than the public know about. It's just governments / authorities don't know how to release it yet as it could have a big impact on everyday life. They can barely control things right now. Think about it, other than medicine and some commercial based things phones, computers etc we've barely progressed in the last 50 years. Or at least we haven't according to public knowledge. Sometimes testing these things gets seen and they let the public ridicule themselves until the story goes away . I think something is off with the recent surge in AI and how everyone seemed to release things all at once. I seriously doubt it is aliens. It's probably us.
Guess that could explain why a lot of it seems to be in USA.
Would we mess with our own military though? I think most are lying but surely not everyone is lying about seeing something. I sometimes believe it's us. Not even another country. If it's technology related only the USA would be able to do it. There must be something to at least 1 of the stories and I think the answer would be less exciting than we think. Secret military tech etc.
@@Chrishavidas My suspicion has always been it's something that would mean we'd have an abundance of everything and that it would make every system we currently have redundant and they just don't know how to deal with that.
You must be nuts; I carry a small machine that I can access a million videos and songs while I can also make my own videos and send them instantly around the world in seconds. I can book tickets and do my Banking and ck the News and weather. I can check your school records too and see you were not quite the sharpest one in class. Sure, not much change in my last 50 years.
@@jdn-wn4on I agree with you, something feels of. To many gamechanging things happen to quick. Especially AI and quantum computing.
David’s comments seem believable. His professional cohort defined him as a “strong moral compass.” He seems to have done his due diligence in requesting permission to release confidential information about his former employer very transparently. It would appear that they approved the request maybe based off his integral reputation or perhaps the change of acts that protect whistle blowers. And, if his highers really did “confide” sensitive info to him, then this would probably support his reputation of being trust worthy. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was his immediate superiors that approved of the disclosure prior to his separation.
You hit the nail on the head with one of your points and I’ve always said that why is it that pilots that can travel 90 billion light years in a blink of an eye and keep crashing into our planet they are so sophisticated they have not discovered brakes yet?
That’s one of the dumbest questions that keeps popping up on the cyber-verse. For one thing, you’re assuming that these UAPs are from another planet; and they may not me; secondly, just because alien species might have resolved how to violate the space time metrics, it doesn’t make them invincible and indestructible. Why you conflate the two, shows a profound lack of critical thinking.
They speculate the majority of the UAPs are drones.
That's disingenuous there are multiple scenarios why they would "crash".
The American Critical Thinking Deficit is a much greater threat to this country than the budget deficit.
dont forget there is a fine line between critical thinking and over thinking.
Lol. God that’s a great line. Thank you for the laugh. You’re so right!
@@REEKS305 you bet!
I understand all the credentials the guy has, but the bottom line is that he's talking about second hand info as far as I'm aware.
If he has seen actual classified government documents on the matter, that's a little better than 2nd hand. That said, I've seen documents that the government has released to the public on UFO/UAP matters, and 90% of those documents are blacked out, clearly there's something or a lot that they don't want us to know on the matter.
Watch the hour long interview. He has proof and has given all of it to people in the government for it to be analyzed. He has given them locations and names.
@@nillyk5671 Well that is very different. I can't imagine what all of that info looks like.
Grusch mentioned several times including about seeing the spacecrafts himself is classified and he cannot speak about it unless authorized. He seems credible.
His source is actually, officially, "Trust me bro." Well, I'm sold.
Your reason for skepticism based on "why would aliens visit if there is a chance of crashing" and "how could they crash if they are advanced enough to get here" (I know I am paraphrasing) are pretty weak. Without knowing any of the motives for such excursions, or the conditions based on the supposed crashes, you can't really speculate.
But even if it were simply for the sake of exploration, your reasoning is akin to asserting that NASA wouldn't risk shuttle missions because of Challenger.
Heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend who knows lots of guys who have seen aliens
Calling a decorated officer gullible seems disingenuous at best.
Dr. Grande "doesn't appear to possess critical thinking skills" when fallaciously applying a sweeping generalization to Grusch's critical thinking skills without adding the qualifier "in this particular case". But regular listeners of Dr. Grande know he posseses strong critical thinking skills. We all make mistakes and leave out important clarifications in our statements. It doesn't mean Dr. Grande lacks critical thinking skills.
Grusch may have drawn conclusions without ample evidence, as Dr. Grande reasonably concluded based on what is publicly known. It's also possible that Grusch possesses compelling evidence that he can't legally reveal publicly. Hopefully congress will surprise us by making good use of their time and focusing on evidence.
I suppose anything is possible. The universe is bigger than any of us could even imagine. That being said, I usually look for simple explanations first
The article which appeared in "The Debrief" was written by two top journalists from the New York Times, Leslie Kean and Ralph Blumenthal. The two of them were the lead writers on the groundbreaking NYT article from December of 2017 which exposed the existence of the ATIP program, and also showed the world the now-famous UFO video called the Gimbal video. Those two reporters are top-shelf, world class journalists, not to be dismissed.
The article from The Debrief is called "INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS SAY U.S. HAS RETRIEVED CRAFT OF NON-HUMAN ORIGIN," June 5, 2023.
And the NYT article from 2017 is called "Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program," December 16, 2017.
lol no they are not top class journos. They are believers and have been into ufos and other paranormal rubbish for years.
That's a pretty hefty title for somebody so soft spoken.
Most people don't realize it would have been physically impossible to detect/identity Earth as having intelligent life prior to about 100 years ago, which which in itself makes it virtually impossible we are being visited by anyone.
Ross Coulthart is a highly regarded Australian journalist. Having only just heard in recent years of the Westall - Melbourne Australia UFO incident in 1966 (which was covered up after threatening the witnesses), I tend to believe David Grusch. I hope more people like David come forward.
Oh they will, & I’ll be covering it ;) ✨🕊️💫
He was a host of the Australian version of 60 Minutes. ‘Nuff said.
There are plenty of highly regarding journalists who screw up. At the end of the day, a claim of this caliber requires physical evidence, and all we have is hearsay and unconvincing videos and conspiracy theories involving apparently every single country on Earth all coming together to hide stuff from the public for some reason? Completely irrational. I'm OK with people keeping an open mind but at some point you have to do some introspection.
Where is the Alien technology?
Came for the analysis, stayed for the bone dry humour. Love it
You’re shaking a hornet’s nest with this one and I’m fully on board 👍 the world needs more critical thinking, or maybe we are just shills for our lizard people overlords 😂
They will go to their graves believing in this silliness.
They changed it from Unidentified “Flying” Objects to Unidentified Aerial Phenomena because light bouncing off shiny objects is not considered “flying”. It’s like calling the laser pointer a cat chases “flying”!
I myself think they changed it because of the public association of UFO with aliens
It's actually not aerial, but don't try to keep up, the subjects is way above your paygrade
@@Reflex92s what are you talking about?
@Random Chatter Those were labelled USO
Committing the logical fallacy of "argument from ignorance" where you think your ignorance about the cause of crashes means they don't exist. That's a "deficit of critical thinking." It's magical thinking.
Lol nope
Yes
Nonono, argument from ignorance is “idk what caused this, therefore aliens” not “idk what caused this, therefore idk what caused this” only the latter is rational.
Not to mention the guys entire argument is an appeal to authority
@@jarredjacob2244 He said "idk what caused this, therefore NOT aliens." That is argument from ignorance. How does he know they didn't flew light years only to have a malfunction and found the best place to attempt a crash landing? He doesn't He's using his ignorance of the topic as the foundation of his argument, and it is as rather juvenile level fallacy to make for any educated person.
Finally! A sensible analysis. As long as we have no evidence, only words of one person, I cannot fully trust him. Extraordinary claims require evidence. No matter if he is former NASA official or a farmer who saw something at night.
"Extremely high openness to experience, like living in a fantasy world" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
“Only speculating about what could be happening” says Dr Grande, in every episode. For all the speculators, speculate as much as you wish. Just present us with some verifiable evidence, please.
The very question you should be asking the government goon Grusch.
@@TheVideoLounge Ain't it... 🤭🤭🤭
@@KongkonRoy-sl1xw they're putting guys in cheap alien costumes and recording them in 144p potato resolution as we speak 😂
Murky footage inbound
Just a shred would be great, like a bigfoot hair, or a poo, a bone that had been chewed on, some DNA, anything
@@joedennehy386 Exactly. We don't even have to know what it is. I suspect 'they' and 'their world' will be very very different, but with the same universal physics. Who knows?
Grande for president 🤟🤟
Hey you. I been pushing lilith dread for president for months. You stop that! She can get us answers. Take care
🎶”I got probed up the bum, baby,
It wasn’t too much fun, baby,
Having all these aliens flyin around 🎶”
Regarding the idea that the aliens keep crashing and how this is at odds with their apparent technological sophistication or at odds with more aliens wanting to keep visiting...we would only be able to know for sure about those which had crashed, but not necessarily how many more had "successful" missions, which may have even gone undetected, and therefore we don't know what proportion the crashed spacecraft would be of the total number of alien visits. Perhaps it is actually very low and there have been thousands of undetected visits to our planet.
Exactly. If an aircraft doesn’t crash, there most likely won’t be evidence of a safe landing or them visiting, therefore, we don’t know about it, but it doesn’t mean they weren’t here or it didn’t happen.
It’s as simple as if the tree fell but nobody heard it did it still make a sound? Of course.
For a guy who claims to be all about critical thinking there was very little if any of it present in this video and is one of his worst for sure.
Open minded curiosity is dead and fixed hyper rationality mindset of appearing to have it all figured out is alive and well.
Thank you for commenting this so I didn’t have to type it out myself. Lol 👍
Good technical point, but even it were a small fraction it still seems like a high failure rate especially for manned craft. Consider mankind's relative success with Apollo to cite a small example. And that also represents a red flag contradiction --- logically a high number of exploratory visits should be by unmanned probes. There should be no "bodies".
Yup! People stating and believing this correlation, display zero critical thinking skills.
@@vikramgupta2326 How do you know that these “aliens” aren’t independent civilians exploring our realm? How do you know that they’re not like humans with flight licenses in their realm, who purchased crafts for the purpose of exploration into our realm at their own risks? In such scenario, accidents will happen no matter how much more advanced such species might be. They point is, there are many possible scenario to show that such beings on such crafts don’t have to be invincible to get here.
So when Grusch shows all the evidence to congress, not to Dr Grande, that means there is no evidence. Wonderful.
If we ever actually got visited by, what would presumably be, a species much more advanced than us, what makes anyone think that any Earthly government could cover them up? If we ever get visited, they will call all the shots, not humans. And they're likely not crashing. This guy Grusch really hasn't brought forth anything at all in terms of "game changing" evidence. Just, he said she said. Also, if there was ever a day that comes where Earth gets visited, the world would drastically change forever. There would be such mass panic and chaos etc. I don't think people really think of that very plausible scenario if a visitation event actually happened. This ain't Hollywood folks.
Edit: Almost forgot, great video Dr Todd! I love how reasonable and down-to-Earth you are.
This is exactly my tots. Why would an alien race able to fly the cosmos to earth , obviously far superior to us technologically and intelligently , yet would be sneaking like rats playing hide n seek 😂😂😂😂. Man went to the moon n dropped a freaking flag, sent a rover to mars , we obviously aren’t sneaking around in our solar system . So why would a so called intelligent Alien race do otherwise 😂😂😂
If aliens show up it's a news story for 2 weeks at best then we move on to the new season of vanderpump rules and making the next car payment.
Suppose the “aliens” want secrecy. What benefit to them would announcing their arrival be?
So they're so advanced that they never have a mishap? We are a pretty advanced species and we do some really dumb shit on a daily basis. Maybe that's why they hide the truth, because they don't want the chaos and panic?
@@nanzingdadi3205 No one ever went to the m♾️n, wake up sleepyhead 😘
The only new thing that has happened in UFO information is the new name. UAP. It just makes it seem less silly.
In the full interview they looked at 3 declassified uap videos. He said I can't share the classified videos, but alluded to the fact that if the government declassified those, he's seen ones more incredible that are still classified. I'm skeptical, but you have to watch the full interview before your commentary. Unless you just forgot or missed it
Judging by the comments on the topic, questioning proof-less incredible claims sure triggers a lot of people
I think the point of the claims was to alert congress so they can investigate and uncover the proof. Might just be nonsense but enough people care about it and it's their government to petition answers from.
people are just bored and/or depressed, this UFO stuff is a welcome distraction from real life