Supreme Court decision on Idaho abortion case angers advocates on both sides
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- čas přidán 26. 06. 2024
- The decision to send the case back to lower courts leaves many advocates frustrated.
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In 2024 we are debating if we should or shouldn’t let a pregnant woman in dire distress live or die. Let that sink in a while
Republicans are evil son of a bitches that’s all I have to say.
its a sin to murder it says in the bible
0.152% of births resulting in maternal death.
@@Unknown10241 not everyone believes what you believe.
simply not true, there is never a situation where a child has to be aborted to save the mothers life.
This is about control not the life of the mother because here her life doesn't matter.
Yep. Dems need to control everything. Smh
What about the child's life?
@@eggnog52
What about the woman's life? What about a woman's right to choose? Who the hell are you to decide what happens to someone else's body?
Pregnancy was prolly due to lack of control
@@TimT-ey3hpso both should die? How is this pro life?
Not a fan of abortion. Too often it is being used like it's birth control. But a woman's life is more important than an unborn child. That woman already is someone's child, a wife, a sister, maybe even has children already.
A personal choice to end a viable pregnancy is wrong. The truth is it shouldn’t be a problem if you view life as a miraculous gift. Adoption is a beautiful option.
@@bmag9994adoption leads to children being neglected and turning into societal failures, or another number on a statistic chart.
Adoption is an alternative to parenting, not pregnancy. There is no right to someone else’s organs. None of us have the right. Including embryos.
Wake up America 🇺🇸. This is a Family thing, Not a government thing. The Supreme Court should do their duty “Protect the Constitution against All Enemies Foreign and Domestic”. 😢
Democrats are terrorists they proved it , democrats lost 75 percent of democrat voters because their hate filled liars
Maybe YOU should wake up! Every human has a right to life. It's in the Constitution. Yet pro aborts want to pick and choose who has a right to live based on convenience in most abortion circumstances. It's murder of another human being plain and simple. There is no argument on that right? And that human being has it's own body and genetic make up. Should we allow humans to own other humans? Or did we abolish that ages ago now with slavery? Abortion needs to be abolished completely just like slavery. It's absolutely awful!
100% no lawyer here, but isn't that what this does. In the constitution it declare it a state issue no? They kicked it back to the state to decide and said they should have never taken this case... Or am i wrong?
@@johntrimble9875 your not wrong these snowflakes would cry if their ice cream was cold nobody gets their behavior lol
be responsible you wont need to have an abortion MURDER
The war on women must stop! Abortion is healthcare plain and simple lawmakers have no business butting into medical decisions! Vote 💙
I 100% agree that a woman has the right to choose to not get pregnant in the first place. (There's a very ugly word for taking that choice from her that starts with an R.) But somewhere between that and the kid graduating from college she loses the right to choose "nope, don't want that any more". (IIRC at one point, Cal was looking to make the line de facto 30 days _after_ birth.)
I've done the math, and it's nearly impossible to account for more than about 10% of abortions as anything other than "both parents couldn't be bothered to take basic precautions ahead of time and one of them regretted it a few weeks later". If you are willing to take "abortion as retroactive contraception" off the table, then I'd be happy to talk about what can be done for the small fraction of cases that remain.
Not really plain and simple. There is a question as to whether abortion is murder, and if so, when during the pregnancy does it become so.
@sherbear8286 it's a clump of cells murder is what happened at Uvalde.
And the life and health of the mother should always come first , IE Kate Cox in Texas her life and we'll being were not taken into account and the end result of her story is she can no longer have children 😢
Abortion is healthcare plain and simple lawmakers have no business butting into medical decisions!!!!
Did you tell people they had to forcibly take falsified medical procedures several years ago?
@herrwahnsinn4229 what falsified medical records? I have no idea what your on about?
A group of evil will never make the right decisions.
Republicans are just do not have the ability to think for themselves. Their brains are nothing but mush. Thanks to Donnie jizz drumpf.
Abortion BELONGS with States! However, mothers with life threatening health issues have a right to an abortion.
It should not be up to the states!!! A woman should be able to get basic healthcare in the state she lives in! The case of Cate Cox is a prime example of why this is such a fucking problem. Abortion is healthcare plain and simple lawmakers have no business butting into medical decisions and people like you are just making everything worse.
Do you even know what a abortion is?
When they say advocates, I'm assuming they are referring to the child about to be aborted...
Next: Robots with artificial intelligence should or should not be granted human rights, protected by the Constitution.
3:03 What a load of HorseSh*T
"In July 2023, Idaho's abortion ban was amended to exclude ectopic and molar pregnancies, which if not terminated can only result in the death of both the mother and the fetus."
- Source, NPR
In the vast majority of the cases where this topic is even relevant, the topic of abortion (and the ethical questions related to it) is irrelevant. If the child has no possibility of survival, or is already dead, then there is no ethical dilemma. Even when the child has a chance of survival, if it poses a grave danger to the mother the same argument for killing in self defense or in defense of another applies. ... And all that is basically moot anyway because something more than 95% of abortions are not medically motivated by *anyone's* definition. Litigating this sort of fringe issue is never going to be satisfying to anyone because it will never address the core question.
What really needs to happen is for the law to codify the point at which "it" become "someone" and along with that the point where "removing it" becomes "homicide", but nobody wants that because none of the options for "bright line" really match anyone's agenda (on either side) without being fundamentally impracticable.
NPR is not a source! LMFAO! 🤣🤣
it's a court opinion, not a ruling or law, doesn't affect state laws
NPR 😂🤡
@@GX-105D truth
Why are we discussing whether a woman has the right to choose the safest, healthiest intervention for her body when she has a miscarriage? Men have the right to choose the safest, healthiest intervention whenever something goes wrong with their bodies.
Men don't carry another soul inside of them
Weasels!
Too dammm bad🎉
Preventing only death as a standard means the doctor could leave the woman a vegetable and think he's done his job, even though she will never have the ability to have life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
War on women continues.
Repeal the 19th amendment!
You must be a biologist.
@@Tiah-mm8lp
You must be a mOron.
What about the 13 year old girl who got pregnant after a rape? She had to flee to another state to get an abortion.
It's a woman's right to choose.
😂😂😂
Women need some self respect and morals. Plain and simple. And the only attack on women you should really be concerned about is the appropriation of women's gender allowing MEN to infiltrate women's spaces! That's the real threat rn.
Not an issue for the Supreme Court, it's a state issue now that is back in the hands of the people as it always should have been. Federal Government should not control a woman's body or her decision. Though it is odd that many that advocate for Abortion Rights also advocated for the poke whether you wanted it or not... My body my choice or not?
No government official whether federal or state will ever dictate how my organs are used. My uterus is mine. And I will decide how it’s used.
Lucifer is not real ?
Those who are judges do not practice my law in bible book
Too bad your Bible is nothing and not the law. The is no law requiring anyone to believe in the Bible
The man of people is way of rightness is John baptist is man of people.
John baptist president of USA 🇺🇸 democratic people babies spirit voted 🗳 for John baptist spirit is president of USA 🇺🇸
SCOTUS punted, what a surprise for this bench. I believe that that was pointed out by one of the non-far right conservative Justices, speaking directly to the uselessness of the Court's decision.
None of them are “far right” lol. Please.
@@tconyt8373alito quoted a witch burning judge in his Dobbs decision
@@tconyt8373 @tconyt - Please, indeed. Justices Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch (sic) have placed themselves as arbiters of when exactly a woman will die due to carrying a child in utero. Perhaps you have a medical degree, but they do not. Law based on opinion is bad law.
@@reidpinchback8850 Exactly! And those upside down American flags weren't really a passive aggressive game on his wife's side, lol. The arrogance of superiority displayed by Thomas/Alito/Gorsich (sic), in every response to legitimate questions re ethical concerns, supported by Chief Justice Roberts inability to rein in clear issues with his court. There's a reckoning a' coming - the Harlan Crow / Clarence Thomas collaberation mass bribery & purchase of the SCOTUS bench is coming to the surface.
@@AdrianneJH he quoted an old judge who said abortion could be seen as homicide. To illustrate how it’s looked upon through history. Most pro lifers agree abortion is murder, nothing far right about the quote or the decision. Biden was a segregationist who said he didn’t want his kids going to a “racial jungle” lol, and you have no problem voting for him, but this is a problem. You see, it’s clear to normal, non radicalized people that what youre doing is reaching bc you don’t like the decision. We have to stop the identity politics. Let’s battle on the merits and not try to silence and discredit people bc you don’t have an argument. Tell us why women should be able to kill their children.
Well yea they made a non decision. Why should anyone be happy with it.
Cry harder
If both sides aren't happy, it's probably a good decision. No one is going to win this. It's always going to be a fight until people wake up and see most abortions as a genocide of inconvenient humans who have a right to life. Period.
0.152% of births resulting in maternal death.
Remove Clarence Thomas alito and brett Kavanagh
Don't forget Chief Justice Roberts, who has blocked any & every effort in providing any transparency surrounding SCOTUS. Being a 'Weak Willie' does not remove Justice Roberts responsibility, be it ethical or outright bribery of one or more Justices.
So am I wrong or do you want the whole country to be like California 😂😂😂😂 , I will stay in the middle cuz both side are a bit nuts😂
Typical answer from a pathetic crybaby dumbocrap. 😂
Why is the Left’s method of dealing with those they disagree with always an attempt to cancel that person?!
REMOVE YOURSELF! (Before Americans DO!)....We are no longer TOLERATING THIS!
you have the right to pursue life liberty and uhhh ? i forgot. so this is indeed a fundamental question to our laws of this country. if a woman dies because she was denied an abortion than this def means that an abortion is part of a womans right to pursue life.
this settles the debate for that part of the debate. however, just because she wants to abort a baby is something else because she doesnt want it is a whole different debate.
No there is no other debate. You just allow abortions for any reason. Like we did before. Not everyone is ready for kids. Sure "they shouldn't screw with no condoms" but think, as a kid who did you have to go to to ask for condoms? It took 3+ years in my first relationship for my ex girlfriends mother to offer condoms 😅 I support anyone to get an abortion for anything. No reason to control women
As a conservative and against abortion, I can tell you that 99% of conservatives fully believe the exception of 3. Rap, incest, and life of mother. Dont listen to media, they make all conservatives seem like we want full abortion.
Even President Trump has agreed to the exception of 3.
That being said, 1% of women need an abortion due to rap, incest or life of mother. 99% use Abortion as a form of Birth Control.. which is wrong IMO.
@@Steve.._. Offer condoms? They cost 27 cents a condom. It cost more money to drive to your Girlfriends house OR.. just dont have sex and be responsible if you do. And most birth control is covered by medical insurance so its like 5 cents a pill.
As a conservative and against abortion, I can tell you that 99% of conservatives fully believe the exception of 3. Rap, incest, and life of mother. Dont listen to media, they make all conservatives seem like we want full abortion.
Even President Trump has agreed to the exception of 3.
That being said, 1% of women need an abortion due to rap, incest or life of mother. 99% use Abortion as a form of Birth Control.. which is wrong IMO.
Not true most states will still do abortions till 3 months if your not smart enough to use birth control then get fixed
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Two party system is false dichotomy.
Register early and vote every *politician* out of office everywhere.
I hope you are ready to lose hard. 😂 Joe Biden is the worst president in history. The only people voting for Bidumb are the brainwashed, groomed duma$$es with literally one brain cell. Do you really want to be that stupid? Ugh.
you guys been saying that for 10 years, yet republicans are as strong as ever
murder is a choice?
Vote FOR Trump and save America and your family.
What in the world is an emergency abortion? Could someone please explain that to me? An instance where a mother's life is threatened to the point where she needs her baby aborted Immediately to save her life is so unlikely to the extent that I've never ever been around a case of it in my 30 years of being in the medical field. It's extremely rare. extremely rare. Ridiculous. This comes down to selfishness and not wanting to be responsible with your sex lives. it's just a matter of fact that if people would slow their roll with all the casual sex, there wouldn't be all these babies that are unwanted. Besides, in my mind, a baby's life is always worth more than the adult's life. It is the natural way of being: to want to protect and save infants and children. These people have unnatural affections. Selfishness and narcissism prevail.
Liar
It happened in one hospital I was working at during my shift. The baby was already dead in utero.
No child deserves to be the cause of their own mother's death.
It’s terrifying that you work in the medical field. Demon in human form.
You're making a lot of assumptions about the individuals who require this specific type of medical intervention. Your 30 years of "experience" has little relevency to the real lives and medical profiles of these people you really know nothing about. While it might be true that SOME are "selfish... not wanting to be responsible with [their] sex lives," you can't make a blanket assumption like this without being aware that you are going to harm some innocent folks. Truly, this is between an individual and their doctor. Your opinion, properly, means very little. I mean could you imagine if you couldn't receive emergency healthcare, that your life was in danger, because I (a stranger) made an assumption about the way you live your life? Do you see where the narcissism is?
If it angers both sides, it's probably a good decision. Just saying.
they decided to be neutral
more like trying to help trump @@GX-105D