He just isn't into her. Ladies, why are we continously doing this to ourselves? IF he wants you, he will move to the ends of the world to find you!
You can tell she likes him way more than he likes her. It doesn’t take 17 years to finally see someone that you have feelings for.
Shoot! It doesn't take 17 yrs to meet up with a friend. I hope she sees this as closure. She deserves better.
The body language says it all. Ug. If I ever mety gf in U.K
I would be crying and hugging on her..... 🥺😔
She is so embarrassed, she's speechless. It couldn't have been me. Spending all that time talking to someone for them to basically say "I like you as a friend". 🗑️🗑️🗑️
I am manifesting she meets a man that will cherish her. That is a beautiful woman. I'm sitting here thinking damn the nerve of this man to describe her like she's a toy when she seems like a beautiful woman with a good soul. Smfh
He used her for friendship, he has no romantic feelings. He just needs to be honest.
I don’t even think he saw her as a friend, seeing as to how he never wanted to meet her and said some awful things after they met
Sometimes the real people from the photos are worse than the catfish 😂
This is hella accurate tho, how many episodes do we get where the catfish turned out to be someone from the pictures but is an asshole in real life
@@kekw5153 yes, end up being the real person and say “I love you….as a friend” but talk to them for years about being together forever
I know this season has been hella crazy with the actual people! They just want to emotionally hijacke people for years.
@@alicialynnette9889 exactly like what would the point be in stringing someone along for years. That’s just weird and creepy to me.
@@kpb2025 I don't get it either. Emotions are a hella of a drug! I would never do this but some people are just lacking in common sense when it comes to relationships.
I just don’t think he likes her like that for real. He needs to be honest with her.
Calling her a toy is crazy🚩🚩🚩
He used the metaphor to explain, he didn't mean she was a toy. He could have chosen his words a little better.
@@Violet316 Exactly...alot of peeps don't understand what a metaphor is...🙄, therefore, they make quick and wrong assuptions. He was trying to give an example of having something special that you don't want to share, mention and or expose to anybody else...he just used the wrong words...which we've all done out of nervousness and or brain farts.
Oof that metaphor didn't land right at all lol. I bet he meant like, you have something special and you don't want anyone else to interfere with it. But yeah he should've thought of a better way to say it for sure
@@AkashSharma-sy7gm I don't know who hurt you, but my man sees me as a person. Besides, it was an analogy. Not a great one, but an analogy, nonetheless.
Rudy and Tyrrell should've went their separate ways because of how long it took for them to meet. And Tyrell saying Rudy has no soul, that's disrespectful, and no man should ever say that to a woman
He has the nerve. She's gorgeous. Her skin is flawless.
That’s not the problem he just got out of a long relationship and still recovering so if she can’t respect that then she should just move on
There was a bunch of words being said but nothing really being spoken....
And she is freakin georgous!
I think all that noise said it loud and clear. He's just not that into her.
17 years?! Hell naw
17 yearsssss wowwww!!! She seems so excited but he wasn’t sure 😫 I would be so heartbroken.
Right I can’t believe she still had hope. I hope she doesn’t get hurt in the future
17 years of waiting led up to this? Pretty underwhelming.
Thats why he warned them not to hype her up about it. He didn't lie
She seems so excited and nice I hope she finds someone better
“Give me some time to heal” could be another 17 years like he mentioned before. Hopefully she doesn’t fall for this again. He told her things she didn’t want to hear, just to flip it n tell her a portion of what she wanted to hear. This cycle shouldn’t continue.
Just that now he can still have the Coochie and be healing and still ghost her afterwards.
Okay toxic interaction aside, her hair & she’s absolutely gorgeous 😭❤️❤️
@@aleayahart7985 me too and my hair is pretty straight! I would LOVE to have her hair. So gorgeous.
She's so gorgeous. Glad he kept it real in that meeting, but wow, that was brutal. She didn't deserve being spoken to or about like that. He doesn't seem to care or have remorse. I hope she finds someone worth her time and effort. Most guys would kill to be with someone as dedicated as her. Keep your head up, Rudy!
I have a feeling that he was honest just cause they're there... Idk maybe she's stubborn or maybe he would string her along for a long time
She was a toy to him…he played with her … feelings emotions etc .. and he isn’t exactly drool worthy
He got something to hide !!! She definitely deserves way BETTER
He is hiding the fact that he has zero romantic feelings for her. He just wanted her as a friend but didn't have it in him to be honest about it.
@@krobinson8627 I think he wants her in private but doesn’t want to make a public commitment. And honestly, a beautiful goddess like her deserves so much more and she needs to run.
@@champagnesupernova777 No, I don't think he wants her at all except as a friend. It was all good when she was using the catfish pic. Once she sent him a real pic, that is when he started being different. That tells you even wasn't interested. He probably does like talking to her because they had the prior history since high school. I do agree she deserves more. She is beautiful.
I’ve been in a situation like this. I was his toy, and he only played with me when he was ready to. When I would date, it was always an issue. You don’t want me but you don’t want anyone else to have me. It’s toxic.
@@MrsGtbala exactly! Narc behavior and people in these comments are talking like it's normal. No we are supposed to respect other people and their time and emotions...
you know, i could watch this show on hulu uninterrupted but i choose to watch this on youtube because of the comments. you all make watching this show much more entertaining.
He gave a whole bunch of nothing … after 17-years 😒… girl claim your dignity & you be the one to walk away & say call me when you’re ready & see if I’m available… then live your life … you might be 60 & still waiting on something concrete from this guy …
Literal definition of “if he wanted to he would” like girl
She didn’t take that much of a loss to me! Run girl!
@@rebeccaloggs457 He doesn’t even want a future with her he has the upper hand here. She needs to just let him go because he could keep stringing her along if she let him.
to any other females out there waiting 17 years… SHEEEEESH!!!
she waited 17 years to hear that he “needs more time”, hopefully she’s been doing her and not just waiting around for dude
Ma'am he doesn't want you. Like you can tell by his body language. His reaction towards you showed it all, he still has someone and even if he didn't he still wouldn't want you. Please let this go and move on.
Exactly. What was the hug...with his butt sticking way far out behind his back... like that ain't no hug
I swear he probably had a secret gf for that long period of time.. His answers are whack and playing with her emotions. 😑
He is wrong for that. She needs to just leave. If she stays that’s only her fault because she knows now…
He clearly wasn't interested in a romantic relationship with her. It seems like he just didn't want to hurt her feelings. He should have never said that he wanted a future with her. He probably never thought they would actually meet. If he was serious about her he would make up his mind. Why pretend to have feelings when you don't? It's selfish if you ask me.
Kami: are you talking to anyone??
Him: not really.
We ALL know what "not really" normally means. Thank you for your service, homie....but COME ON.
Facts! Or when you are trying to talk to someone in one of the dating apps and you are clear that you are looking for a relationship and then they say. " I'm looking to see where it goes " 🚩🚩🚩 boy, bye ✌🏽
Girl, you are a goddess. He doesn’t deserve you.
when there’s a “but,” YOU NEED TO RUN!! you deserve so much more and better girl. after 17 years you’d think he’d be jumping up and down when he saw you. if he wanted to, he would! he would’ve made sacrifices to meet you in person prior to this
I truly think he's Bi,and nothing against Bi or gay people but I truly think he's on the fence with his sexuality.
…. And he ain’t even that cute to be doing all that. 🥴
The military really be giving these boys the audacity.
Pretty lady, you should’ve just walked away from this fool as he was flapping his gums. You deserve the world, be the queen you are!
Right!! She’s super pretty i can’t believe he got the nerve to move like this with her!
I was really sitting with my thoughts. He's probably the best looking man to a lot of ppl, but I'm not seeing any of it. Very underwhelming to see him in person after all that time...just to meet this version of him. We've "known" each other for over a decade, and we still can't video chat!? NOPE and NO ma'am! I hope she finds someone that truly likes her. He clearly doesn't
They be the main ones dusty and all with the audacity Chile. He looks like a slug; she can do way better than him.
He was never into her, he just enjoyed the friendship but wasn't honest and strung her along for 17 years. After 17 years he still needs to decide? Girl find a man who likes you
Definitely the case. He strung he along for sure but it’s ok though because I’ve seen situations like this once she fully move on and he realizes it he’ll be back. She has to put her foot down and stop looking at the situation through rose colored glasses
She’s absolutely stunning and deserves so much better!!!!! Run sisssss cus the red flags are thick!!!!!
She says she's cautious but that lack of courage is driving her towards disaster. Girl, take more risks, meet more people. You are gorgeous!!
Rudy Run Girl, When someone shows you who they are believe them...🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
I wouldn’t have kept my hopes up for that damn long. Been in a situation like that before, never let a man tell you he doesn’t want you twice!! Take the first hint and bounce. ✌🏼
Ehhhhh not feeling it. This is one of those situations where you have to be honest with yourself and truly reflect? If I’ve known you for 17 years and you were in my city and chose not to tell me, that reflects a lot about how you feel about me and how much you respect me. Sometimes things aren’t even worth pursuing and while he explained himself well enough…do you really want to be with someone who described you as a secret toy??? Someone who couldn’t bother to FaceTime you to give you reassurance? Sometimes the hyped up idea we create of someone is not reality.
This guy story has a lot of red flags. He keeps saying I plead the 5th like he's hiding something.
I would’ve walked right away bc wym you plead the fifth. Once you say that that means yes you were in my city and now you playing in my face. This isn’t a joke
I love that Kami says what we’re all thinking so the “victim” isn’t delusional about the situation making exceptions about everything
I was never a victim I was a willing participant. Loved this man still do to this day.
Aww beautiful, just keep it moving. He's done told you for 17 years he doesn't want you.
Idk their first meeting seemed like a huge red flag and he doesn't seem to really want to be with her. 🤨 I was surprised Nev and Kamie didn't lay into him more for saying she was "like a toy" that you hide from others, or that he was "not really" talking to anyone else. 🙄 He struck me as an asshole.
Frl this episode frustrated the heck out of me bc Nev and Kamie were so docile. Wtf
Ruuuuuun Rudy! You're a beautiful queen ❤️🥰 DO NOT WASTE ANYMORE TIME WITH HIM!! He doesn't deserve it 😒😒
To place this in perspective. My boyfriend (now fiancé) and I we live in different states atm but we decided that we would plan a trip where he would come up to see me (he flew to my state) it was weeks of planning, searching for airbnbs together I didn’t even have a stable job at the time.
But I told my boyfriend when he bought his plane ticket that I would do damn near whatever I needed to, to make the money necessary to have him come here. I went and sold a bunch of shit, doordash for hours. He spent like two and a half-ish of his paychecks. He was able to visit me.
When planning this trip we disagreed, we argued a little we were stressed, yknow we are broke young adults. And I- forced to live with my toxic and manipulative parentals. He made such an immense effort to see me. No guy ever did that for me before. He told me I was worth the effort. When he visited I had an amazing time.
My point, there are people you view as worth the effort and people you don’t see as worthy of your efforts. But if he wanted to see her he would have done something anything to do so.
He looks like a black squid ward from SpongeBob she been talking for 17 years girl get another man stop messing with bikini bottom boy
This was cringeworthy.
He had her in the friendship zone.
That was basically it.
He needed to be upfront with her about it.
All that hemming-and-hawing; it was childish.
shes so insanely pretty
Is this a joke? He needs time to heal? Translation-wait on me so I can use you as I like. No one should put up with that!
Something seemed off about this episode. They both seemed sketchy af to me. I can't explain it LMFAOOOOOOO.
i mean this show is definitely scripted i thought we all knew that by now but just liked the drama lmfao
@@ml5923 I mean everything has some fake stuff but real stuff does happen too
@@ml5923 I mean not really. Things are set up for the episodes like the catfish which producers have already figured out and the victim but it's not scripted LMFAOOOOOOO. However it's not the first time people fake it to get on the show LMFAOOOOOOO.
He was never planning on meeting her. Had her waiting 17 years for nothing. She literally has the patience of a saint. U can't keep someone in ur back pocket for 17 years. Bcuz I definitely couldn't wait that long.
She's wayyyyyy too good for him
Girl body language is everything and he’s really not into her. She’s a beautiful woman and she deserves better than a guy who isn’t sure and won’t show her off to the people in his life. She’s just a “toy” apparently that he refuses to commit to.
Rudy deserved better than this man. That man’s nose is a red flag alone.
She has a gorgeous smile and I love her hair.
WHAT'S THE UPDATE !?
she's too pretty to wait any longer ijs
Yeah she said he was saying mean things to her and she said wow you haven't made me this sad in 10 years and he said I didn't think you had a soul to be sad about. Which she got really mad at him about and stopped talking to him lol this happened i think like a week after they got back from Savannah. Idk why she got so mad about that but I get it's a dickish thing to say
This guy man. Honey you deserve better than a man who will call you a toy and say you're something you never want people to know about.
17 years? Then he telling her in so many ways he doesn’t want a relationship. Then he said if it wasn’t for Catfish she would of been waiting a additional 17 years to see him. Ma’am you are gorgeous and deserve better. Just move on love.
I don’t know why he didn’t just come out and be really honest. He absolutely loved talking to her, he may even think she’s an amazing person but he never had any intentions on meeting her whether he really wasn’t into her in a romantic way or this was his way of managing expectations and kind of like one of those this has to be to good to be true don’t meet your hero’s situations he wasn’t ever going to meet her if catfish hadn’t gotten involved.
She is so dope! Beautiful, gorgeous hair, nice style, amazing voice. Simply gorgeous😍
Nev’s responses are amazing
She's beautiful and needs to find a better man
I have the impression that Tyrell has zero romantic interest in her but is too embarrassed to be honest, especially in front of the cameras. looks like he just got himself permission to keep her waiting for another 17y.
I really hope she snaps out of her teenage-dream-bubble and moves with her life
He just isn’t interested…
She is so pretty!! so gorgeous!! I hope she finds the better love she deserves
Some people die young and don’t live to see 17 , for some people that is a lift time , if I was talking to somebody for 17 years I’n that type of manner we would of been married with a home and 3 kids running and screaming around making a mess everywhere, I had a long distance relationship with somebody for 3 years out of Chicago in a different state after 1 year of talking 24/7 we started visiting eachother twice a month she would come to Chicago for a weekend , than I would fly to her in Florida for a weekend , we did that for 2 years and it broke us living so far away that it started hurting , than her father passed away and her mother was in a car accident and couldent walk anymore , she took things really bad and stopped coming to see me so I started to go see her instead , eventually she was so busy taking care of her mother and working 6 days a week to be able to provide and pay her house and have a chance to save money that eventually we fell apart , we took a break for a couple months and kept it as friends , and she is still my best friend to this day , she found another guy close to her and they had a child who is 3 years old now it broke our hearts Because of financial problems and living so far apart , we still talk she calls me everyweek and she cries because she regrets breaking up in the first place and it broke my heart as well , she is no longer with the father of her child and she’s willing to try and work things out between us once again , I’m not sure where we will be but we fantasize of having this amazing beautiful life together one day and god knows I love her to death , and I know she loves me with all her heart as well she’s a good girl and we both been through a lot, in a couple years once her son is a little older she’s planning on moving to Chicago with me if I don’t end up moving to Florida, financial problems got in the way of a long distance relationship & we hope one day we can live our life’s together and do all the things and travel the world how we want with a nice home somewhere close to the ocean eventually & yes love is a beautiful thing and it can destroy you mentally and physically as well we suffered so much I suffered I was depressed for years and ready to give up without her in my life how we both wanted when I found out she was pregnant it made me feel like nothing , having a child was something we talked about doing that was supposed to be my job and in a way I feel as if we failed each other her son is her happiness and I won’t take that from her we just wish things were better in our life’s and worked out differently than expected , we’re both grown I’m 26 she is 24 we still have time to plan a future together I just hope that we can live happily ever after like in a movie lol 😂💙 and life is a movie , and I been in so many relationships in the 3 years time that me and her stopped being together , only as friends , and she is the only person that can understand me with her eyes and ears shut and Me as well I hold the key and knowledge to her heart , she will always have my heart . And I will always have hers , things have been a little rough on us but we still continue to talk love and support each other , I’m planning on staying with her for a week in December to spend Christmas together , we really do miss each other and I am going to ask her to marry me this summer ! Sometime next year I am planning on taking my dog with me , and getting an apartment out in Tampa close to her and see where life brings us together . Eventually when things settle down we want to start life together in our own home together .
He ain’t even all that ! to waste her time is just ridiculous . For 17 years a FaceTime call could have happen he just got a bunch of excuses .. I would be pissed 😤
oh he's not into her. simple as that.
that much is clear.
My bf lived an hour and a half away from me when we met online and we waited about 4 months until we met up in my hometown. Then he proceeded to drive 1hr 30min here to pick me up then another 1hr and 30 min back to his house to hang out then back again to drop me off because at 19 i still couldn't stay out at night lol. And hed drive Bck home repeateding this every 2 week for the nexr 2 years until we moved in together in 2020 💗 if he wanted to he would ladies
My goodness 😂😂 he's a clown 🤡 girl! You are so beautiful. You deserve better. I'm sorry for your pain but you are worth so much more than he's offering
I mean it’s obvious he didn’t wanna meet her , it’s been 17 damn years… lawd that’s too damn long. 😩
Look he ain't over his ex he still hanging on having hope they'll rekindle & Rudy is nothing but an emotional support system that's why he never wanted to meet nor was he ever going to she's wasting her time she's completely blinded by love every guy every girl knows what they want from the start no ifs or buts about it he doesn't want her he just wants her attention to make him forget about his ex like um no u needa heal on your own & not involve someone else romantically
Damn another 17 year's definitely rude
17 years? Wow she is patient. They are just friends move on
17 year long pen pal, leave it at that sis.
He full of it! Run girl
17 YEARS??!!!! Do you know how many people she could’ve come across in that time
Look it was just 17 years of friendship that’s it.. good friends that’s all
17??? That’s almost as old as me wtf😂??
Tyrell is toting a WAGON👀🤣🤣🤣
He isn't in to her and its messed up he kept her waiting for so long
Her hair 🥰
Chile!🤦🏽♀️ Run🏃🏽♀️
Girl even the vibe is off she’s so fuckn beautiful literally and once she move on I promise he gone want her he’s tryna hold on to her by a thread he don’t want her 🙅🏾♀️
Omg this looks like a park in Pooler, GA! It is… and one of my fav cafes ♥️
He then told her she had no soul.. this guy is messed up... She was a toy to him and she deserves better
He clearly isn't ready to be in a relationship since he wants to break up every week. He is scared and she can't stick around and wait for him to be emotionally available.
Mtv I would love to see a dating show with this woman! And I know lots of people would love to see a beautiful dark skinned black women as the bachelorette in a show like that. She deserves to meet a man who really sees her value. If she wants to do it mtv make it happen.
17 years is crazy
He isn’t worth it! Beautiful girl, she will find someone who’s crazy about her and treats her like she deserves
After 17 years "I don't want to push myself into anything". Men are truly amazing!!!!
He wasn't into her clearly she was someone to pass the time with
He is not attracted to her and doesn’t want show her off
@@haniyaali8835 that’s true but he seems to be the type of guy that’s attracted to women who show off a lot of skin and have their booty hanging out. Like he said a toy he wants to hide in other words he’d rather a trophy wife that he can show off. I hope she never changes herself. She’s one beautiful woman. I couldn’t stop staring at how beautiful she is. She might’ve waited 17 years but I bet someone will see her on this show and reach out to her. And I bet she’ll find herself.
@@StupidCZcamsHandleTM I was thinking he just didn't want to commit but that's a good point, makes sense. He needs to look closely in the mirror.
17years? Seriously? Wow they're patient 👀 he called her a "toy"!!! That's just messed up. She is gorgeous btw hope she finds real love soon
Run girl! Run!
Lmao, he’s literally telling her he doesn’t want her without saying it. Just cut your losses and move on babe
I don’t think he is attracted honestly he just don’t know how to say it, or don’t want to be a a**hole on TV