The Infamous EVE Online Bank Heist | The Stuff of Legends
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During EVE Online's early years, a massive bank heist took place that took the entire community by surprise.
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Eve Online is the best game to have other people play and tell you stories about.
Yeah this and dwarf fortress
@@r6scrubs126 You hear all of the amazing stories of fortresses that worked, but not of the countless fortresses that die from non-preventable issues and mistakes. One time, there was an unstoppable undead siege on my fortress, so I ordered everybody to hide in the residential block and seal it off. One of the last dwarves, Zan, decided to fall asleep perfectly inside of the door that connects the residential block to everything. His personal bedroom, with a nice cozy bed, was mere meters away. Everybody died 💀
EvE is the best videogame about which to tell stories, hopefully he continues with telling stories about eve. Example: the judge, the casino wars ...
I'd happily read the novel or the comic book of Eve Online.
@@csblakeley there is a book, called empires of eve I think, (it's about player driven events, aka war...)
_EVE Online_ is the most believable depiction of humanity's future among the stars: The same old drudgery and exploitation, only now there's pretty nebulae to look at.
EVE Online is a prequel to The Outer Worlds.
@@SimuLord it's not the best choice. it's SPACER'S choice!
And even then not that pretty cause real color photos of space are relatively boring. Most pictures of space are false color images because real color photos arent that helpful for research.
@@everythingsalright1121Yeah, it's all dull and dark out there.
@@SimuLord EVE Online is even more capitalistic than the Outer Worlds tho lol
Stories like this remind me of the story about how a single character got away with murdering an entire server of players on Ultima Online and I hope Frost has that for an upcoming video.
So funny, I was thinking the very same!
there's a murderer.... Among Us!
Is that the guy who poisoned all the ale at the summer festival on the PermaDeath server and made them have to hard reset, or is that a different story?
Ultima Online has so, so many insane stories man
In addition to Ultima Online stories it also reminded me of Runescape's Falador Massacre. Still hear stories from the OG players that were there in the sea of chaos right after being kicked out of the player owned house not knowing what was going on, slowly seeing players that thought they were completely safe with valuable items drop one by one.
Can I just say I love how the little black imps have gone from being Yahtzee's canon fodder to an actual race of... things that apparently matter enough for other Escapist employees to have to babysit
We've had a lot of fun expanding the art style into new formats!
Lore across youtube videos: the first step towards the great Escapist Cinematic Universe
@@theescapist Your marketing people clearly passed the class on branding. Well done!
@@TheKeeperofChaos The ECU 2.0. 1.0 had MovieBob, LoadingReadyRun, Jim Sterling, Miracle of Sound, Lisa Foiles, I think MatPat (the Game Theory guy), and so many other contributors whose names escape me now and don't appear on the new site now.
@@theescapist I'm trying to work out if you were re-using assets or that was a genuine Jeremy Goodsex easter egg... 🤔
Actually I don't want anything to do with anything Jeremy might call an easter egg. Ew.
EVE online, fascinating to discuss, listen to it's stories and invest on its community's lore and yet I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole since I don't want a second job, but kinda still would want to "play"
This reminds me of a running joke in the EVE community. The only way to win at EVE is to not play. I was losing for years, but have a pretty solid win streak going on the moment.
So what I'm hearing is that you would value a guided tour of EVE online without having to sully yourself in its realities. Sounds like a business opportunity.
@@gautambudidha1110 Spoken like a true EVE player.
@@TJ-vo3rv Just come to Delve. We offer hugs and free Quafe Zero. I promise.......
The 'second job' meme although Extremely true is usually attributed to joining an alliance with the intent to be a part of the big fleet battles. You can absolutely be successful playing solo. Otherwise it's the discord ping sound playing in your dreams.
What I find fascinating is that what Cally did would be considered a felony if done in meatspace.
Libertarianism FTW!
You try prosecuting the guy with the biggest, baddest warship on the server
The funny thing about Titans in EvE is they're very good at killing other capital ships, but terrible at dealing with anything smaller.
EvE has no ship that is the best at everything, instead every ship class has something of a rock/paper/scissors dynamic.
@@The_Jovian "The only way to enforce a contract is with a contract...and plenty of enforcers." - P.J. O'Rourke, 1997, on Russia turning into a "nation of hit men" in the absence of an effective civil court system, and oddly apropos to this situation as well.
he committed a felony but he also has a nuclear bomb so really what could you do about it
Ever since then, EvE Online player banks have been classified as one of the text books scams in the game. There is a whole guide on what kind of scams exists, and how t avoid them in EvE Universities wiki.
Eve players better ready for banking fraud than all the crypto bros combined, lol
Yeah thanks but no thanks. Eve is the kind of game that is no longer fun with the amount of bullshit that goes on. From corps owning whole categories of materials, to folks scamming newbs out of their first ship for the lols, to folks being able to blow up others in high sec and escape like nothing happened, it's not for me. I'll take a Westworld over the actual Wild West any day.
Are there any legit ones?
@@nikobitan7294 Yes.
Your own pocket.
Player banks are not safe.
@@nikobitan7294Maybe there were some that were intended to be legit. At first.
Until someone with access to the banks wallets gets tempted to empty them. A few clicks later and all that ISK is in their personal wallet.
I love EVE Online stories. That community is so dedicated and intense, I don't think there is another one like it on earth.
Every story that makes it out of EVE is always spectacular and absurd in equal measure, because the community takes it so seriously it approaches farce, but never quite makes it.
Frost delivers once again, he could narrate anything. If I had an Interstellar Kredit for everytime the word "space" was said in this video, I'd be able to built Cally's spaceship. Also, pretty wild how Cally didn't technically break any rules and got away with it.
The Final Frontier is basically the Wild West in that regard.
I gotta say, The Stuff Of Legends is quickly becoming my favorite Escapist series.
The Escapist could do a standalone series just about the legendary moments in Eve Online. From scams to wars that spread to every corner of the game, multi year hunts to destroy a specific ship, or the backstabbing and coups that happen at an alliance level. So many stories.
We won't be doing that, but we do have a big documentary airing at EVE Fanfest in September!
Only just noticed the Adventure is Nigh plushies around the kids' room.
I think this has become my new favorite series on The Escapist! Well done, Frost and team!
I wouldn't say Elite: Dangerous falls squarely into the MMO category. But, it had enough similarities and players, years back, to have a few thriving player factions.
Jetsetting between neutron stars to bail out pilots who'd gotten themselves stuck in the black, as a Fuel Rat, was definitely one of the most positive online gaming experiences I've ever had.
o7 My heroic little rats, wouldnt make it to the beagle point without you.
Ive had 1 exerience with the fue rats, and it was quite amazing
utting in my request and having a real life player showing up to rescue my sorry ass.
because i had accidentally clicked on the wrong type of stars while jumping between systems and running out of fuel.
I had the rebuy costs, but i didnt want to loose all my exploration data when i was less than a 1000 LY away from the bubble on my way back XD
Dude showed up with refueling limpets and got my exploration Anaconda enough fuel to jump to a star where i could refuel :)
I can see why Yahtzee's so grumpy if the gremlins have an Iron Maiden lol. The implications of that is tiring enough
Cute avatar pic
Did the players eventually take revenge on him? Seeing as he put a bounty on himself, there must've been at least one attempt to raid his ship.
That seems like the kind of thing Something Awful would've done for the lulz back in the day.
he had a 170,000 dollar ship
i doubt anybody made good on the bounty
@@landencarr5443 Sounds impressive, but ISK was really valuable back then. Plenty of guilds (in EVE they're called Corporations, but same concept) had capital or supercapital class ships of their own, and they all cost something with a real world equivalent value in that ballpark. The little guys probably weren't gonna be making good on that bounty, but that's what the proceeds gained from selling off the remaining bank resources were for. The bounty was for the corps: if they wanted to recoup their losses, they were going to have to work for the privilege.
(Although at the same time, it wouldn't surprise me if the corps that were banking with him were banking up for their own capital/supercapital - lord knows if I was planning on scamming people to buy a Titan, I'd probably only be taking investments from corps that didn't have a fleet that I'd need to be worried about.)
@@rushi5638 I'm not an Eve player, but wouldn't attacking the supership incur substantial enough loses to a company so as to make it vulnerable to (other companies') attack? Seems the only way to get him is to make an alliance, though can corporations trust one another in that world, I wonder.
Probably not. You can just buy a trained character with isk in the character bazaar. Cally probably had multiple characters already and some were probably not known to anyone he could transfer the stolen wealth. He had plenty of money to just buy a new character and sell his. Something similar happened to an alliance I was in at one point by a guy named Lumpynurse. Players did want to take revenge on him and he had already sold his character to someone before any damage to Lumpy could be done.
The most powerful ship in the game is a Titan. It was likely stolen and he knew he would have a hard time getting the ship out of alliance controlled territory. If he did put up a fight in that titan, he knew it would be destroyed and did not care, especially if he put insurance on the ship before it was destroyed, he probably made a profit from getting the Titan destroyed whether he had insurance or not. In 2011, a titan may have cost around 30--50 billion isk. Nowadays they cost quite a bit more I think.
Eve is a very unique game however, the game has turned into the worst offender for pay to win games in existence. It used to be where you had to train skills in real time to increase skill levels, which still remains but, now you can just buy skill boosters on the market sold directly from ccp games and as long as you got deep pockets, you can add years worth of skills in a day or sell the boosters yourself for in game currency and buy anything you want. It does take some knowledge and experience to fly expensive ships well and not get destroyed immediately after undocking but if u have the real life cash to invest, knowledge and experience will follow eventually.
EVE online had a player operated bank complete with loans and interest and repayment plans and yes this is a game that people actually play for fun.
If I wanted to do accounting, I'd go to my job in accounting.
And I say this as a guy who loves business-adjacent games-I spent just about all of the past two weekends playing My Time At Sandrock, and I play Stardew Valley on my Steam Deck at bedtime. The difference is that those games make the economic elements both (a) fun and (b) empowering to the player. EVE is neither of those things.
@@SimuLord That is only one aspect of Eve. I have played since 2011 and never once opened a spreadsheet. Simply repeating memes you've heard is no way to go thru life.
This series is great. Even though I've already heard most of the stories before, with Frosts narration its like hearing them for the first time.
Man's voice is buttery smooth, like getting diddled by a guy wearing a velvet glove.
I'm loving this format!
I honestly adore that Yahtzee's art style has kinda become the defacto Escapist look, it's simple & versatile enough for expressive storytelling
Having never heard of Eve Online before, this is an INSANE story. Not because of the heist but because of the amount of freedom and community-driven content in this game.
Used to be really, really cool. It's still amazing, don't get me wrong, but like.. man... EVE back in 2006 when this happened was a wholly unique beast. There was an in-game web browser because the devs knew your ass was going to be googling. The skill curve stuff he mentioned at the start of this video was extremely true back then. Still pretty true, but it's become more accessible as the decades crept on. Like, experience used to be *experience*: something you can only gain with dedication over time. If you wanted to fly the ship this guy bought with his scammed proceeds, your only option was that your character had to study for it. For literal real world years. That's still how levelling and progression works today I think, but they added "skill injectors" which made it so you can skip a lot of the wait... for a price.
I'd probably still be playing if they hadn't done that. Not that I think it destroyed the game or anything - I think it's probably for the best if progression moves a little faster and is actually correlated with playing the game (which skill injectors do, since you can earn money mining or whatever and buy one with the ISK you earned and speed up progression). It's just, EVE's thing from day one has been PLEx - the Pilot License Extension. Pretty sure they *invented* the whole "buy a month of subscription as an in-game item you can sell to other players" method for players turning $ into in-game currency. Meaning my ass can't play anymore without being sorely tempted to spend hundreds of dollars buying PLEX, selling those to other players for ISK, and then buying injectors from them to skip the boring waiting bits. Skill issue on my part. As long as you have the self-restraint to not dump an entire paycheck into skill injectors, the game's better than it's ever been.
About 10 years ago I used to get rides home from a guy in his mid 20s who spent a lot of time on eve. I loved hearing his stories about that game. It was sort of like hearing stories about someone’s epic D&D campaign but on a massive scale. Always awed me.
Yeah its cool. But just in real life, you need to join with other people to enjoy being part of the space news.
Without it, you will lost on what to do since there is just insane sheer amount of options to do. Just like in the real world.
You've hit solid gold with this series, first thing ive wanted to watch consistently since zero p ❤
It's just like watching DBZ Abridged when they tacked "Space" in front of everything.
The Falador Massacre would be a great one to go over, it’s a hilarious RuneScape legend that spread like wildfire
I spent 11 years as a space psychopath. At its peak Eve Online was the greatest game ever made, and no other game will ever come close to matching it.
For sure. I learned a lot from EVE.
Nowadays there is an EVE streamer called OzEVE who runs an honest to god investment fund. He just used some of his riches to start a new show which is an EVE incarnation of Shark Tank for people to pitch investment proposals.
_hear people talk about Frost and his narration_ Oh, that's cool, another guy named Frost that has a nice voice, reminds me of the one from Smite- IT'S THE SAME ONE? FROST ON THE ESCAPIST?
Well shoot, the Escapist really picked up a good one, way to go Frost! Can't wait to see more of your content on here!
Great Series - I love hearing you retell these old stories! Have my comment and like as an algorithm booster!
Old MMO stories are the peak of "you had to be there".
Damn I can't imagine ever allowing my in-game assets to be stored or used by another player. I don't care how trustworthy the rest of the universe thinks they are
It's a matter of who your friends are. Within the established corps and alliances we don't even blink at trusting your mates. For example I routinely transport billions of isk worth of ships for my alliance mates to battle fronts or PvE content. I'll happily lend out expensive ships to people so they can participate in something rather than sit it out. The worst sin you can commit is to screw over a corp or alliance mate.
God, this series is fantastic.
I am SO glad you're continuing with this series! What an absolutely wild story!
I felt compelled to rewatch this video today. I really like this stuff! More plz!
I remember watching a long ass video about this exact heist and couldn't believe it.
Ever more I fall down the Eve online rabbit hole
Fascinating story, but a prime example of why EVE is not in my wheelhouse of game
I could listen to this guy read the ingredients of a shampoo bottle and be entertained. I love the cold grit and flat sarcasm. I need moar!!
I am absolutely loving this series
Oh man I had heard of this even as someone who has never touched the game. nice to have a video detailing it!
More of this! Love hearing about stories from games with long and crazy histories
I could never get into MMOs, but this is what makes them special. It pains me when new MMOs try to railroad the players into specific behaviors, because it negates the entire point of having a community driven system. Embrace the criminals! rob banks! become law enforcers or detectives! that's how interesting narratives are created.
Honestly, this is very rare in MMOS in general. EVE was more the exception than the rule. Once WOW came out, most MMOs realised people simply like railroading more than they do freedom that requires personal investment.
Community driven games are cancer, especially when there's an economy for sociopaths to ruin and take advantage of.
The problem with community driven games is that you need to very carefully build the systems that facilitate engaging player interaction, and while much more interesting to talk about, they are also significantly less engaging to actually play and will always have smaller communities, and thus numbers, than a railroad game of the same status
@@willowbarrelmaker8269 It's largely cultural, not game mechanics. For example the greatest sin you can commit in Goonswarm is 'Goonfucking'. Take advantage of a fellow bee and the boot of justice will quickly find your backside out of the alliance. We don't care what you do to the pubbies, but fuck with a fellow Goon and it's a wrap for you. Same mechanics apply, but we have a tight knit culture within the alliance, and we back that up with an overwhelmingly negative response to shenanigans.
I was so excited for an EVE online story, made 100x more giddy when I heard it was you narrating!
I'm so glad these kinds of stories are around. They're modern-day legions that I would never have known.
The story, the delivery: both sublime.
Love these video game history videos.
Do the one where the guy kites a group of giants to get revenge on high level players.
I love this series. this is something really good. reminiscent of the old escapist days in quality
This is a genuinely good series; please keep it up
Every other Monday! Premium subs get it a week early.
I love how Adventure is Nigh characters are making into The Stuff of Legends 😃
never went into the EVE rabbithole, but the storys coming out of that universe over the decades are just golden!
This series is amazing. It's good enough to rival zero punctuation
I'm glad I stopped by to given this a listen. Think I'll start watching more than ZP
This series is amazing keep them coming!
Another great video. Love this series.
I just love how the little imps have a Yahtzee Iron Maiden. Yet I’m confused how hardly anyone else is mentioning it in the comments
I absolutely love this new video series!!
escapist, this is a fantastic series. do more of this for sure
Man I am loving this series.
Absolutely loving this series so far. Will you be covering other crazy moments like the Death of Lord British? (Richard Garriott)
every time I watch one of these I am reminded how much I need a plush of Grinderbin and also Dabarella and also Sigmar and also Mortimer to complete the whole set.
Working on making it happen!
I absolutely love this series.
These are amazing. More please 😂
I didn't think carefully about the "bank" part of the title and came in thinking this was gonna be about the infiltration job with the Guiding Hand Social Club that got a good bit of notoriety. I now know of *two* fun Eve stories! Seems like a crazy fun game that I do *not* have time for...
One of the operators who died in Benghazi was an EVE online player, his last message was “they’re shooting again. Be right back.”
One of the best quote I heard someone spout was "School taught me nothing. Eve Online taught me to lie, cheat, steal and kill. Real transferable life skills"
Never played a game quite like Eve. Sank a number of years into it and still have some contact with a number of guys I flew with
Love this format
I remember hearing about this when it happened, and it still blows my mind
I haven't played EVE Online since about 2010. It was both the most fun and the dullest time I've had with an MMO. If you're willing to treat it like a second job you can do some pretty amazing things in the game and certainly some of the battles that have been fought in EVE Online are legendary in the video game community for including thousands of players and ships. Because of ship destruction and avatar death being permanent it's one of the few games that will actually make you feel a wide range of emotions. It's probably the closest you can get to a real life space sim without actually being in one.
They’re stories that’ve been told many times but I’d love to see an episode about the infamous WoW plague, or even runescape’s Falador Massacre.
Love the art on these videos
In the middle of a video about an EVE Online scam was... an advert for EVE Online. Timing, as they say, is everything.😆
Got to respect the guy for sticking an space bounty on himself and throwing down the space glove for people to get their space money back.
I honestly expected space pirates to have robbed a bank using in game hacking mechanics in the form of a raid with such success that eve down right removed that mechanic.
That's not a bad idea. You should be a game dev. Although I don't know how you'd feel about moving to Iceland, where CCP is located.
@@thesollylama130 son i can barely run simple programs much less write a single line of code, if the devs are going to add some kind of hacking mechanic that comes with serious repercussions towards the balance is now something that was untouchable becomes touchable and because it's touchable it loses its security but gains in value, and given that eve doesn't have any sense of deflation and inflation to to its currency (as far as I know) you're giving pirates the economic equivalent of a nukliare bomb...
But given that highway men and pirates are a established part of eve and the only people who would get hurt are the once who already "won" eve, the damage wouldn't be of any real concern...
Make the hacking passive like the old deus ex and the length of waiting determines the yeald of currency, you make it active it needs to be like a raid hour long mini games (maze traversal or tower defense or reverse tower defense), strong shapes need to choose between ships of modules and hacking stealth modules fragile ships get both, strip stealth makes it harder to detect by players, hacking stealth makes it harder for the internal game system to rat out the players to the players being hacked, at least one mini game or failure state for hacking stealth, if you're caught in hacking stealth you're still in the system and if you can take the bullets and missiles and lasers you can still hack and steal, death holds the same losses.
The banks standard detection system in addition to a hacking detection system, it's a popup saying "you are being hacked" for every hack, now I am unsure if the space stations are intractable on the same level as elite dangerous, no man's sky, rodina, or the outer wilds, so if it's not physically intractable remote hacking with the before mentioned mechanics and you stop there, if it is intractable in that manor then, the closer you are to "the central storage unit" the "quicker" and "smother" the hack gose, the methods of defense you run your anti hacking system as usual or you destroy the ship, drone Frigate whatever they use.
And the reason newer ships are saved it's because they are lacking the correct technology to be hacked.
I had heard of this debacle but never saw the actual footage. Brilliant. To literally have an evil monologue of himself on a low res screen as he flies off in his space deathstar. If you're going to be evil in the real world and commit massive bank fraud, *up your game.*
That was amazing on a level I didn't even realize.
That was really cool. Thanks for that
This would make one hell of a movie.
20 years and counting of incredible Eve Online stories. o7
paving the way for EVE online's first detective agency, bank regulators and thieves guild
I hope Eve players stay on the game and never get let loose into the real world...
Or worse, run for public office.
@@louisduarte8763It's the Mittani's next plan...
10:18 Missed out on the chance to put in the pun "pull yourself up from the space-bootstraps..."
This was new one. I was around and helped with planning on getting a mole into anther corp and having them get enough power to disband their claim and their outpost went cold lol
Man, that definition of EVE Online is also accurate if you want to describe Path of Exile, specially the part of second thankless job and useless degree on a made-up economy.
I'm going to copy and paste the coment I left on the previous episode yesterday:
I didn't realize there was a new episode of this series, I'm really really liking it but I think the thumbnails so far kind of blend in with most of the channels' videos. Whereas Zero Punctuation stands out with all the yellow I feel all the other series keep fighting each other for the purples and blues and greys. Maybe you could give this series, say, a green or an orange?
Really really liking this series and today's episode, I'm looking forward to more stories I didn't know about.
EVE seems like the type of game that you don't want to play but want to hear about.
I love this new series
Stories about EVE Online could be a series in itself.
I wish you could just read me bedtime stories. Love it
Loved this one
I think I heard of this but I am not sure. Still though can we call it a heist when it was a scam all along? Great video Frost.
He apologised with less care than a friend knocking your pint at the pub would.
hope one day we get one of these on the classic Falador Massacre. never forget 6/6/06
Hey kids, take a shot everytime Frost says Space!
1:17 Waitaminute, I've seen that ship in a totally different MMORPG: STAR WARS: The Old Republic! I haven't heard about anything unseemly in that game (which I haven't played in a few years).
I also recall reading about this in an old CRACKED article about Dick Moves in Video Games (they have at least 7 of those), many entries of which happened in EVE online, strangely enough.
Ahh, EVE Online. Before League of Legends came out, EVE was my Exhibit A for "online gaming is a cesspool, I will never, EVER play multiplayer."
play alone in mom's basement if you want. People in Eve were the first to offer me comfort when I suffered loss in real life. Eve players constantly do charity events that raise hundreds of thousands of dollars to help people in real life. Not long ago several thousand total strangers showed up for a massive fight to honor a player that had terminal cancer. When my own father was in the late stages of cancer and I took a break from the game my corp leader contacted me in real life just to check on my mental health. Any time a player dies in real life we hold a vigil in space for them where we light a 'cyno' beacon that appears like a shining star on screen.
If you can't find friends in a video game, the problem is probably you.
@@thesollylama130Even Hitler took the time to pet his dog once in awhile.
@@SimuLord Don't project your problem with normal human socialization on us. We're just people playing a video game and having fun with friends. Having fun with enemies too- because it's just a video game and I don't actually hate the people behind the keyboard that I am shooting.
The people I play Eve with sound a lot more normal than you, bro. Like we aren't just waiting to drop hitler references in relation to a video game. That's not a healthy mindset.
I can kinda see why you play alone and I get the feeling it isn't entirely your choice.
But have fun anyway. It's just video games.
@@thesollylama130 You EVE diehards (and MMO/MOBA/looter-shooter diehards in general) are so easy to rile up, and I suspect it's because you've spent years if not decades (you mentioned downthread you've been in EVE since 2011) fighting the persecution complex that comes from your entire social life being tied to your echo chamber of a walled garden.
Touch grass. I play games alone because I enjoy having a little time to myself that's not dictated by the needs of my job or my offline social life. Just bought the Oklahoma DLC for American Truck Simulator, in fact, giving me a chance to take a road trip after work without leaving the house.
@@SimuLord I wouldn't call playing one MMO (even if for a long time) a die hard. I've tried a couple others but one is enough for me to be active in.
If I'm a die hard it's in flight simulators. The peripheral gear for that is vastly more expensive than the titles. And it takes a lot of time just learning the controls on a modern fighter. Hours spent practicing in flight refueling.
Do you use a wheel and pedals for Truck Sim? I use Track IR for headtracking, I imagine it would be great for Truck Sim.
This shit is so wild and captivating. This is my new fav series in here
I am curious whatever the detective went on to do after all that.
Ooof frost climbing up that Escapist tier list....
So glad to see the site found a groove and is no longer carried by Yhatzee (visual style excluded, but its a cool thing to borrow)
Whole video team has been trained on using it and it’s a lot of fun. Big unique selling point for us now
Surely I can trust this person who named themselves after Kali, the goddess of time, death, and doomsday.
the escapist more like the best channel
When i first started playing in about 2009 i was recruited by some random corporation about two weeks into playing. They were just hoovering up newbies and teaching them to mine and run missions with small fleets, taxing it, standard stuff. Though i quickly became friends with another guy in the corp, we got along and had the same timezone. When we were wardecced he was excited about it, not afraid like everyone else, showed me how to fit my ship so it looked like garbage but was made for tackling and destroying. Then i was fucking hooked. After doing some PVP with my new friend in the corp he told me to create a new character and add them to another random corporation.... which is when he let spill that he was only in the original corp to fleece them. It wasnt much later that he managed to steal a bunch of towers and all the kit for a lowsec mining setup and take it himself. Once this occurred i left the corp and joined his small operation and got into highsec ganking, and then the money started rolling in lol. And once my sec status was so bad i ended up in lowsec the proper PVP started and i then spent 4 years addicted to eve participating in large scale nullsec wars and fucking nail biting fleet battles.
wow what a tale!
Hell yeah, story time 🪑