How to Introduce An Alien Transformation in Ben 10
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- čas přidán 5. 08. 2024
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In today's video i discuss how each series approaches the introduction of new alien transformations, for better or worse. Please let me know what you think ! - Krátké a kreslené filmy
It’s implied that Cannonbolts Species is probably scattered across the galaxy
That would be good to know they are not extinct
Pretty sure some of them live on wildmutt's home world
@@immtnn8622a more primitive variant
@@immtnn8622There are also shelless ones.
@@immtnn8622 And that too
The fact Ben mentioned it'll be cool to get vilgax DNA in the original Ben 10. It makes the reboot choice more justified 😂😂😂
This is interesting given what’s happened in the reboot
Apparently, when Vilgax was hacking into the Omnitrix when he first captured Ben, the DNA sample for his species was deleted.
I think Eye Guy was meant to debut in the beginning of Secret of the Omnitrix but it was changed to a variant of the movie beginning.
Interesting. I’m not sure about production order but airing order may have effected that poorly
@@DrWardy it was meant to take place as s4 ep1-3 if i recall
@@dive.cats-per I-10: The Ben 10 User Generated Experience, SotO is meant to be the Original Series’ finale. It was presumably just produced earlier in the season for budgetary reasons.
I agree about Benwolf’s introduction. It just worked so well.
My favorite new transformations are contextual additions like Cannonbolt and Wildvine, but I love the way Ditto was introduced.
2:35 Wait...is no one gonna bring up the fact that they have a whole exchange of dialogue directly confirming that the tick destroyed Cannonbolt's species?
If I'm not mistaken, a creator of the classic series even said that they were a pacifist or peaceful species by nature and therefore did not fight it, and it was Ben who used human ingenuity and aggression and weaponized their biology to defeat the Tick.
I must have totally missed that. My mistake !
The writers went ahead and stepped it up in Omniverse, from having a whole episode for an alien transformation to having a whole arc around an alien transformation.
which transformation ? whampire ?
Im guessing Feedback?
I'm guessing you mean Evolved Swampfire, though that's technically an Alien Transformation, Transformation.
They did that with Bullfrag, swampfire and Feedback. Maybe some more but those are the ones I remember off the top of my head
what's fun about ben mentioning that he would've liked to have a vilgax transformation, is that that ends up being paid off in the reboot funnily enough where he does sort of get a vilgax transformation lol
The annur aliens were unlocked via touch(the loboan scratches the watch, the thepft khufan grabs it with a bandage and dr viktor full on manhandled it)
My mistake ! Thankyou for mentioning this
I know how:
1. Show the Alien's Silhouette/Hologram in the Omnitrix
2. Make Ben say "wOw, a NeW aLiEn!!!!"
3. Make him slam the Omnitrix core
4. And Damn! He turns into the new Alien!!
I could’ve shortened this video to 20 seconds if I knew this !
Personally I really liked Whampired introduction, Getting it right as he needed it right before the fight began against the same species.
That was really good. I should’ve done a section of the video on it
I think i speak for everyone when i say we were all excited to know Ben can turn into more aliens that he meets
For sure
I personally hated how it wasn’t ever really an event after classic… like the mummy appeared once but it was special, spitter is the same, Blitzwolfer has my favorite classic episode from season 3 aside from be afraid of the dark
felt the same way with blitzwolfer
I'd have said that Rath was another unique method of unlocking an alien - electrical interference from a Lewodan, unlocking the transformation for a species that the Lewodans have a long history with
2:08 its been stated in the wiki that Wildvine's species and the walking mushroom minions are from the same planet. I don't know if this is actually true or if someone made it up.
2:35 If I remember right, the episode that introduces Cannonbolt confirms this idea. One of the followers of the Tick, the big guy with the axe, recognizes Canonbolt's species and say something like "we destroyed your world last week"
3:45 Ben gets new aliens off screen all the time, including ones we haven't seen. In omniverse he says he has more than 70 aliens when, by that point, we had seen less than 60 aliens.
Thankyou for these ! Especially the time stamps. Very helpful
5:48 Actually snare-oh's dna was collected in the episode the Mummy first appeared. Towards the end when it tries to expose ben to the corrodium it makes direct contact with the omnitrix and Max even says "The omnitrix, its sampling the mummy's dna". As for Dr Viktor u are correct that we never actually see the omnitrix in direct contact for it which was always weird because the anur aliens all had the dna capture sequence except for him
Edit: Also ben didnt collect the Incursion dna, Azmuth just unlocked the transformation for him lol. Just pops up and is like here ya go. The weirdest one for me cause azmuth never does that except for Waybig
thankyou for this ! i appreciate everyone letting me know what ive missed, especially my misconceptions
Really cool video concept!
It's also interesting that not all of the original 10 have the first time Ben uses them shown on screen. The 4 from episode 1 do, but XLR8 is only shown his de-transformation, then it's implied Ben and Gwen are already familiar with Grey Matter, but are shocked by Four Arms and Stinkfly, then the remaining 3, Ripjaws, Upgrade, and Ghostfreak are all shown as though they've already been used before.
I like the Original Series' way of doing things. Cannonbolt and Wildvine you can headcanon explanations for, and Upchuck/Way Big were inputted directly, but others like Ditto are completely arbitrarily unlocked. The Anur Aliens introducing the scanning function is really cool, but then season 4 outright ignores they exist (outside of future Ben using Snare-Oh/Benmummy in Ken 10).
The fact neither Eye Guy scene was ever definitively the first time the characters have seen him, creates a fan debate around him. I agree with you that he was probably unlocked off-screen.
The hill I'll die on is that Negative 10 is set before Secret of the Omnitrix, the Pop Up Trivia for SotO regarding Animo's experiments with Clancy prove that. Paired with the Eye Guy intro not even being the 100% canonical scene, IDK why people think that's when he was first used (I think Kuro/YoItsMatt say it's because Gwen first calls him by name then, but that doesn't mean he couldn't have gone unnamed in Negative 10).
I like the Benwolf episode, but it did create that thinking that everything has to be an alien, while before things like The Krakken could just exist as cryptids like in Secret Saturdays, and magic didn't need to be an alien thing like in AF. I also don't know if the Yenaldooshi thing is offensive or not TBH.
I don't know if I like the retcon that the Anur aliens were already in the Omnitrix and the scanning was just unlocking them.
The UAF/OV ways of doing it did take away some of the hype around new aliens. Maybe it's nostalgia talking but every alien after the Andromeda 5 usually fell flat with a few exceptions.
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Wildvine was able to communicate telepathically with the mycellium, right? Since the omnitrix's intended purpose is diplomatic communication, this might be why Wildvine was spontaneously unlocked.
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thankyou so much, thats really kind
@@DrWardy no problem
All alien 👽 debuts threw out 4 series( Alien Swarm ) will be touched on
I should absolutely talk about alien swarm
@@DrWardy you could bud
Nice vid dude.Also,im pretty sure that the mummy touched the omnitrix in his debut,when holding ben and dr viktor grabbed the watch when tossing Ben.For transyl tho I think the watch did obtain DNA just from being close to him.Though for transyl its the completed omnitrix.
I think there was one appearance of eye guy before that, possibly the one that has multiple different beginnings
Yes the secret of the omnitrix movie has 3 opening variants. One with xlr8, one with heatblast, and one with eyeguy. He also doesn’t transform on screen and Gwen comments that it took him a while to find them so Ben already being comfortable with his powers would make sense since he had a little time to figure him out. Gwen calls him eye guy though and Ben later just says the name casually too so either she just coined the name in that moment or Ben already got the transformation earlier
Unsure about what order they were produced in but I believe the film took place after the series
@@DrWardy oh I thought it was at like the start of season 4 but yeah I think you're right
I know its just my headcannon but i always figured the random unlocks were the omnitrixs ai deeming ben good enough with his previous transformations to learn a new one but thats just me
i felt this same way when i was watching the show in 2008.
Incursean DNA was also already in the Omnitrix. Ben says that Azmuth gave him the code to unlock it.
no ben says azmuth gave him the code for the life form lock
@@pgnnotthnvr4616 The lock code for Incursean DNA, yes
@@pgnnotthnvr4616 Ben's exact words were "he fixed that problem I was having with the randomizer, and gave me the Omnitrix's lock code for Incursean DNA."
Clearly emphasise that an Incursean transformation was available within the Omnitrix, just locked off.
Using the Transformation for infiltration
My mistake! Thankyou
I wish they utilised the idea of aliens being unlocked by codes more, after classic that completely goes away
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A couple things.
1) I believe it is confirmed that the Tick wiped out Cannonbolt's homeworld by one of its followers when it first shows up.
2) The Mummy, Victor, and Zs'scare actually did touch the omnitrix for Ben to get Snare-Oh, Frankenstrike, and Ghostfreak (again).... There was never any "species sensing" or whatever in the OG series... getting a new form based on a nearby alien (without direct contact) only happens when Ben activly turns the Omnitrix into capture mode (which he didn't know how to do at the time), or when the Omnitrix forces itself into capture mode to get new DNA (as shown latter).
And while I can agree that the Benwolf/Blitzwolfer introduction was the best introduction of a new alien... one issue with it is that it only works once... the mystery was a big part of it, but the indicator and the how was given to us. So it can't pull that mystery again on us as we will just know "The Omnitrix went to capture mode, we're getting a new alien."
You’re absolutely right. Thankyou for the corrections! And couldn’t agree more with the laboan transformation
I thought it was a cool story idea to depict Blitzwolfer's slow transformation as a glitch. Reminiscent of traditional werewolf transformations.
One of my top 5-10 episodes in classic for sure
I wonder if there are any transformations in the Omnitrix that Ben himself is incompatible with? I know using Zy'Skayr as the basis for Ghostfreak was a bad call on Azmuth's part. But I'm curious if there would be any other aliens that would fall into a similar category.
Ultimate humangusor and ra'ad (amphibian's DNA doner did posses Ben like how zy'skayr did
Oh interesting. I suppose alien force introduced a fear of alien x as well as a bit of concern about big chill being another ghostly alien
Upgrade doesn't completely fuse Ben's DNA with the sample, that's the reason for why he doesn't remember the machinery he fused with and the lack of voice change
1:13 well, that's the number by alien force s2, by end of omniverse it should be 1000911 iirc, with the other aliens he scans during ua and ov
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What about reintroducing aliens ? Like how Feedback was seemingly destroyed completely but later Ben reunlocked it while fighting the same person who destroyed it.
Maybe I’ll have to make a video on how to reinforce an alien
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2:37 they said in Cannonbolts debut episode that his homeworld was destroyed by the tick. Now if that has any correlation past unlocking it, I don't believe so because the "randomly added" 3 at the alien force 2 finale I believe was confirmed to be the classic non-ghostfreak anur species. Either way, the fact that he hasn't scanned characters like, for example, Verdona is a combination of the plot not needing that specific form (this and agregor being specifically because of gwen and kevin) and increasingly better software not randomly popping out new forms without reason.
Its explicitly stated that the tick wiped out cannonbolts species extremely recently, i believe they said a week prior?
in the show it never implied a scratch turns you into a nahual, it was always bites
My mistake. Good spot
@@DrWardyYeah, Ben Mentions That He Did Indeed Got Bited But He Was Transformed In Wildvine And Didn't Know If It Would Count Or Something
Ben didn't scan Bullfrag. Azmuth gave him the unlock code for the Incursean transformation
You’re absolutely right. That was a mistake on my part
What up? guys
why playlists of 10? would 11 aliens be too complex?
I suppose from the writing room it ties in to the 10. Story wise. No idea
Base 10 is easy to understand I guess
@@burner555 well wouldn't it make more sense for a galvin device to have playlists of 8 because they have 8 fingers
@@potatoheadpokemario1931 the Omnitrix is supposed to be usable by all sapient species
Can you stream Saturday maybe art and chat
That's a great idea
Depending on your time zone that’s absolutely possible. I could stream Sunday morning in Australia. Being late Saturday afternoon in America
@@DrWardythat would mean early Sunday morning for me and ranger
@@nathant29 I am still going to be there
Lots of wrong info but ok vid
I’m appreciating all the feedback about what I’ve gotten wrong. Appreciate that you didn’t mind it
@DrWardy the big tick did take out CB planet, all of the monsters had touched the watch and thus handed their DNA scanned, those are just what I remember off the top of my head since I watched the video yesterday
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