Glock 43x MOS vs SIG X Macro 2024
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- čas přidán 25. 07. 2024
- In this video Im going to help you pick between the glock 43x mos and the sig x macro as your first gun. I love both, but today I would only pick one. Luckily I have both... but hopefully this helps you out.
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This is the weirdest thing. I found your channel this morning, looked through multiple videos, saw the one over your 43x, saw the next one over the sig, and saw a bunch of comments saying “I would love to see these two guns put together in one of your videos.” And I liked those comments and subscribed.
Two hours later I find this video, posted today, one hour ago from the time of this comment. Wild
I was just thinking the same thing
Great video! I’m happy you’ll be posting once a week! Looking forward to it! 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
I went ahead and got a P365X Macro Comp back in November on my 21st birthday. I shot both the 43x and the 365 on the day of and determined for myself the sig was a better option. Having now shot a friend's Glock 43X built out, I can say I still prefer my sig but I see much of the allure of the Glock. It totally comes down to the user preference.
Dope video just subscribed
Great video. Both builds look sick! I’ve carried the 43x for a few years now and am good with it but damn that sig is so cool and feels/shoots great
I own a highly modified 43X. PMM comp, slide milled out for a direct-mount RMRcc, TLR-7Sub, trigger shoe, magwell, etc. Have had it for several years now and I still like it, although I will admit that it's a pretty love-hate relationship for me. My attraction to Glocks is that they are simple pistols that are generally reliable. However, this only applies when they are unmodified. Once you start modifying a Glock, they have a bad habit of becoming jam-o-matics, and it's taken me countless hours of testing and experimenting with accessories and modifications in order to find out what will work reliably on my 43X and what will not. Now granted, that's not exactly Glock's problem per se, however I would argue that there are other handguns that can be modified in the same ways easily and yet still actually work, which is why I now tell people to go with Sig if you're looking for a modernised pistol, or a pistol that you want to modify yourself, because Sigs tend to still actually work after modifiying them, unlike Glocks.
Absolutely my experience, which is why i just went back to the 19. The concealibilty is not worth the reliability. SA mags are nothing like Glock reliability.
My friend has struggled to make his G19 build reliable, and my Sig build runs like a top.
@@Osprey1994lol doubt. Unless your friend is an idiot who's doing a bunch of unnecessary internal mods
Yup this is true. My sig is pretty modified with new trigger, slide release, new internal springs, different slide. All works fine with it still being different company parts. All my mods are not from the same companies and my sig has shot over 1k rounds with no issues
Thank you for your input, it is highly appreciated. 🤝🏻
Love the Channel, love what you do. Any future plans for a Glock 20 or Glock 21?
I’d like to see you review the spectre comp that’d be really
Cool to see ur take on it
Could you also maybe do on person carry examples in your vids? Ive never carried SIG but i would love to see the print difference on person vs Glock!
nonetheless amazing vid as always!! loving the content brother.
I owned both and the winner for me was the Sig P365 X Macro. Heres my main issue with the 43X (and glocks problem overall) - I bought the 43X when it first came out and there was no MOS version for it available. So I bought a Zafari Precision slide at a local store, I had no way of mounting a light (a good one atleast), but It did alright for me. I didn't like the 10 round mags, so I then did the super expensive upgrade to the Shield Arms mags with their metal mag catch and the gun ran fine...but I was not confident with it. I would shoot it SOO much and past 15 yards, I just wasn't comfortable. Its too snappy, its too light (yes, I put that as a bad thing), Its sad because the form factor was just perfect. Well, the X Macro was introduced, rented one for an hour, shot about 300 rounds through it and bought it that day and sold my 43X at a gun show the next day. OUT OF THE BOX, was able to put my 507k on it, the streamlight TLR-7 Sub (its a carry gun and that light is more slim) and shooting that gun feels like shooting my Glock 19. 17 round magazines STOCK with the gun. It was better in every aspext. I also heavily enjoy the trigger on it. The only issue with the X Macro is the gun is slightly bigger. Biggest trade off in my opinion between the two. The grip is bigger, the gun is slightly wider but youre talking still MUCH smaller than a glock 19. Been carrying it since the day it came out and its on me right now in the office and is a gun I can confidently hit a 6 inch piece of steel off hand at 50 yards easily
Thanks, I will look more into the p365. This glock build is incredibly expensive.
Glad to see this video from you, well put together as always.
I run an eps carry on my 43x. I have an extra RMR that I would love to put on, but I’m not trying to buy suppressor height sights for it
great as always
I got the 43x I use Gen 3 Shield arms mags, I had major issues. I took it to gunsmith guy.He did a cut on the barrel and he had to cut the screw a littleon my holosun red dot. Now its FLAWLESS !
Tyrant CNC has a trigger shoe for the sig p365 series dat has a safety dingus like Glock just saying
Awesome vid. I noticed you swapped out your EPS carry for the RMRCC. I have both, but the EPS carry is the latest and greatest as it seems.
My edc really came down between these two about 1 half years ago I went with the sig for personal reasons. But I’ve never had an issue with it only complaint is rust on the mag but it still functions perfectly and it really was my fault I left it outside in the rain during the summer time. Never had any jam ate every round I put thru it hot and not
I carry the XL but I’m highly debating getting an X Macro frame since I already use the now discontinued 15 rd mags
I love your vids just subbed.Im a bit younger boys so I can’t own real firearms but I use airsoft for training.i love your content keep it up man 💪
Best gun content on the tube 🔥🔥🔥
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Have you had any issues with the stream light TLR7-SUB?
I think using the Shield Arms magazines in the Glock is a bad idea. Regardless of how good they might function for some people, the probability that an aftermarket mag will fail is much greater than the probability of you needing more than 11 rounds in a self-defense scenario.
Which optic plate you using for your rmrcc?
I am really considering the Glock 43x MOS, but the PSA dagger and PSA products really have caught my attention. Let me first say thank you for making a perfect video for us. The video really gives a lot information and helps new consumers like me figure out what to expect and what to look for. But overall my question would be, what do you think about the PSA dagger compared to the 43? Thank you!
Wake up babe, new gunmen vid just dropped.
Any reason for the threaded barrel on a carry gun?
Why did you get rid of the ARC DIVISION slide?
That’s crazy, I’m debating between these two guns lol!
As always great content! I would ask why you changed the barrel on the Glock when it would save money and arguably be more reliable?
Thanks for the quality content and have a blessed day.
I wanted to run my omega 9k for funzies haha I should honestly switch it back because I think you’re right
Did you do something with your 43x recoil spring? Looks really lite when you “round check” it. Would like to do the Same to my 48 mos
It’s OEM! I just do it a lot so it looks light 😄
All I could shoot was the hell cat pro and the p365 micro. I hated the hellcat. I actually loved the micro so much it made me second guess putting the deposit down for the macro for like a whole hour.im sure if I liked the micro that much that macro will shoot way better. In 2 years I’ll definitely be back for the micro when CCW is up for renewal and I can add them both.
I didn't realize p365 platform had trigger safety issue... As for mods, you can do a lot of mods on the sig including the trigger.
As for me, i do own glock based gun (shadow systems DR920P) but I generally do not shoot glock as well as other pistols and carry a varying version of p365 based pistol as my EDC
Great stuff as always man🔥
What mounting plate and BUIS are you running on the Glock with the RMRcc?
It’s from forward controls! Fantastic plate
Gracias amigo 👉🏼👈🏼
The term Glock leg is synonymous with Glock. If the internet was around like it is now Glock probably wouldn’t have survived along with cops saying it was going off by itself
Love my 43x. Carry it every day.
And sig comes with the neat added feature of going off if you drop it lmao. Plus a high probability of it catastrophically failing after a not super high round count.
Can you put a gen 5 17 round mag in the 43x?
What about S&W M&P 2.0 compact
Have you had a voice box or vocal cord injury?
Is it true? Can the 365 go off in a holster?
Tried the macro. Thing was great but like you mentioned reliability out of the box isn’t great and honestly that alone was enough for me to ditch it. Sold it and only lost a little money. Great gun, just doesn’t fit into edc role for me so I have no other purpose for it. I think as sig makes more products and development, the macro will slowly make its way to the top over Glock and things like the shield, and hellcat for example.
Just picked up an HK p30SK for concealed carry. Dimensions and mag capacity are a little underwhelming compared to some of these modern small compact pistols but it shoots phenomenally and HK have a very good track record for reliability. Might be worth checking one out! They also make a VP9SK if you prefer a striker fired pistol
I run the P365 AXG Legion and when I want a change I’ll run my VP9sk SCS..you’re right they are very reliable guns.
And it’s versatile. You can run 10, 13, 15, 17, and even run the 21 round VP9 mags
@RepentorPerish77 I think HK flies under the radar for a lot of people but their quality is top notch. You can also damn near pry a gate open with those steel magazines
I love my 43x. Didn’t love the Macro when I tried it.
What kind of grip is that
What’s the optic on the 43x?
Shot the p365 and hated it. Shot the 43x and was more comfortable with it. Now I need to shoot the macro
i carry a x macro and never had the gun go off on me and its been almost a year. actively trained on it and had a couple of fte with crappy ammo. if i had a p320 i wouldnt carry it at all lol
Ever since I saw your P365 build I’ve slowly been collecting parts to replicate it! Just need the slide, optic, & barrel!
I have both. XMACRO is king but the 43x is a close 2nd.
I rented a Sig P365 Xmacro with the intention of buying one, had reliability issues with a few different types of ammo. Rented a 43x and it didn't jam once. Bought a 43x. All due respect to GUNMEN but modifying a carry gun is insane to me. Modding makes sense for competition guns but not for a carry gun. 90% of mods are unnecessary if you put enough rounds through your gun. Save your money for range time.
I carry modded p365. Obviously test it first, see how it shoots, how it functions, if there’s any reliability issues. Test it. Shoot it. If you’re comfortable and confident in its reliability, then carry it.
@@joeymedina7115 if you have the money and time to spend on thousands of rounds to first break in and then test the reliability of your mods, I agree with you. That's all an unmodded gun is. It's a gun you paid someone else to test for literally tens of thousands of rounds, including past the break-in.
I carry a modded gun about half the guys 30 odd guys I go to the range with have modded guns. My instructor shoots thousands of rounds per month heavily modded guns. No issues. My wife can rack the slide much easier with the new spring kit I replaced in one of my guns. All the mods I do are function oriented better trigger, comp, better springs good quality springs last longer than stock btw. If you’re in the fight of your life it’s open division. But I can see if people don’t want to put in the extra work to upgrade and experiment where necessary. It’s fine to run a stock gun. I can see also if all you have is one carry gun then mods can be difficult to work with while vetting and working on your only carry piece. Get good with stock and you will be fine. Us that mod will have fun experimenting and enjoying the fruits of better performance and spending all our extra income to 😂. Have a good one sir.
Edit: Many SOF guys run modded guns good enough for me.
what made you change from Holosun to the RMR on the Glock ?
I personally love both the rmrcc and the eps carry but I wanted to try the rmr and honestly I love it haha so it will probably stay for a while
What is the absolute best optic for the 43x and why. I see you have ran the holosun and trijicon. Which one do you like more. Pros and cons? What do you recommend.
The one I’m going for my g19 is the scs carry. Too bad there’s like no stock for 6 months
i would have to say the Holosun Eps Carry for its enclosed so you dont get lint and stuff in the way of the light reflecting off the glass
Tenicor or tier 1 ?
Can you do a Smith and Wesson m&p
Can I ask where you got that sick ass silver bracelet?
I’m sorry if this is a dumb question but what tape is that on the grips of your pistols ??
Goon tape!
@@GUNMENusa awesome thank you
we NEED the 1911 build ASAP!!!!
What mag extension is on the Xmacro?
SLR! Love it
Sig P365 trigger modifications are easy and you really don't fuck with the FCu unless you are swapping the trigger, but that's not necessary, just go with Tactical Triggers kit.
P365's have been super reliable after the first model year. They are an entirely different design from the P320, and I would absolutely recommend people give the gun a go.
PS. I have shot a G48 and G43X, and they both need to be modded. The base P365XL or P365X Macro are great out of the box.
Yeh idk why people keep thinking the gun going off on itself is still here in 2024. Sig has fixed it around 2019-2020 and it was with p320 only. Sig to me shoots better and is better stock. But blocks are always good just like buying a Toyota
@@droptopp3479couldn’t have stated it any better myself. Have a Glock43x MOS have around 3,000 rounds and time for new barrel. Looking to get the Sig 365X macro this year also
I got a 43x and a 48 mos and i like my 19 mos the best sig is out of the question they feel cheap to me .
I used to run the G43X MOS but after purchasing the P365 AXG Legion, the 43X will be sold.
And one thing you didn’t mention is you trusting those Shield Arms mags is questionable…that should be a thought in the back of your mind too
In every since of the word @gunmen does not miss. Thank for what you do.
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How did you get your sight on the 43x to sit flush ?
Mill the back bosses off the slide
If I could go back in time, I'd never waste money on a glock except for one specific model. Sights upgrade, trigger upgrade, mag release upgrade, mag upgrade. I carry a sig 365 every day due to size and capacity, but preference goes to Walther and H&K in full size. However, hiking in bear country, I do carry my glock 29 10mm upgraded.
Where’s that thread protector on the 43x from?? 🤤
If I’m being honest I have no idea where I got it 😂 type in knurled 1/2-28 thread protector and it might pop up?
Damn ok I will try that thanks brotha!
What are the odds the Macro actually goes off in your holster? Were those issues not fixed a few years back? I’m in the market to purchase my first EDC weapon and these 2 are on my list. I love the feel of the Macro but have some serious doubts of their history and I keep seeing conflicting responses online of if they’ve been solved or not.
Haven’t heard of any cases of p365 doing what the p320 has
@@CoolKid-mg9boP320 also doesnt really have the problem anymore, especially in models that have a safety.
@@PeriodicaIsI believe it but you know that stigma is gonna follow them now. I think if sig would’ve did a full recall and owned it folks probably would look at it differently
First Love the vids
Is it just me or does it look like the front side on the 43x is kinda slanted
Never worked on a Glock trigger, but sig FCU is pretty simple.
I think we need to get the “sig going off on its own” mind set out, it was with sigs older p320 internals pretty sure they’ve fixed that. I’ve never heard/seen a p365 going off on its own, a whole different set of internals. But I’m probably wrong since I only have the xmacro and I’m sure there are lemons out there.
You can think whatever you want about sig but that will always be a concern for me. The bigger issue to me is sig's engineering and QC processes. If they were negligent in making the 320's, what else could they be negligent with? Also, their remedy was to offer an optional trigger upgrade instead of a recall. Seems to me like they were trying to minimize the backlash and downplay the situation.
P365 is a ground up gun, P320 was a modified P250 essentially.
P365's have been incredibly reliable after the initial teething phase.
What about 365 broken firing pins? Sig has always had quality issues.
@@krispewkrem3 not real sure about that, I’m sure they have had issues. Just the few sigs I’ve shot and used I’ve never had problems. But I’m also a GM guy and even they have issues too.
You lift one spring to gut a Glock lolz
No rust issues with the Macro ?
As of yet none!
@@GUNMENusa same but I still do get worried lol
Of course we would love to have as many rounds in the gun as we can get but if you look at the national average on personal self-defense, Shooting, it’s no more than three or four rounds so at the end of the day a 10 round magazine is not the end of the world and these aftermarket magazines. You can’t really rely on it so I rather have a guarantee 10 over a maybe 15 yes I do understand more rounds more better but a 10 round mag with a spare is more than enough for your average Joe self-defense situation. You can get the job done with a six shot revolver it’s all about shot placement no matter how many rounds you have if you can’t shoot you in trouble so the key is get out and train when you become proficient with your firearm and have great shot placement. It’s not gonna matter whether you have a 10 round mag, a 15 round mag or 17 round mag shot placement is everything sometimes we have to get the John Wick fantasies out of our heads if you dealing with John Wick, kind of problems than I understand the 10 round mag not being enough, but we all here for the most part or average Joe so get out and train and work on shop placement and all the fundamentals and you should be fine
Reliability should be more important than a few extra rounds. :)
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@@GUNMENusa that’s awesome! Seems like you’re a fellow software/dev/engineer.
Finally found a CZcamsr that doesn’t make every video 20 minutes and thinks there a seal team 6 member
My custom 365 rusts more than any other gun I own
All of the 365 line is like that. Their finish is utter garbage.
Is it at the rear sight channel that and at the plastic mag base pad is the only place mine is rusty and seems where it happens at.
Have my x macro comp for about eight months. Put about 2,000 rounds through it with absolutely no issues. Took it to the range yesterday, and after about 150 rounds through it, I got a dead trigger. Can't for the life of me understand why an 800 dollar SIG would leave me hanging like that. I took it home and took the fire control unit out and the trigger spring fell to the floor. That tells me that the spring came loose while still in the gun and while shooting. Not cool sig. I called and got some less than talkative person who told me to send it back. He sent me a label so I guess I'll send it back so they can fix it. I think that spring thing is an issue that sig won't acknowledge. Just saying... I'm not a happy camper... I'm thinking of selling it after sig sauer returns it. Any thoughts?
Sell it get a Glock
I had a similar issue with a 365X model. Brand new, brought to the range and I had a dead trigger after 18 rounds. It was the trigger reset spring I think, it fell off the cross pin that it rests on. I was able to fix myself, brought it back out and put 300 more rounds through without issue. Sold it immediately 😂
Sig uses customers as product testers and their customer service always tries to blame the customer. I'm never giving them any money.
I bought a Sig Custom Works FCU last year. The safety, takedown lever and the safety bar dropped out when I installed the FCU in a Wilson Combat grip. I contacted Sig and no questions asked they sent a return label. A 7 day turnaround and I had the repaired (reassembled) FCU back and I was able to complete my P365XL Spectre Comp build. Sig's Customer Service was fast, polite and more than satisfactory. No further problems with the gun. 👍🏽
@@davidhudson2527 Lucky you. That's the first story about Sigs customer service bring helpful and polite I've heard. I still don't trust them.
I'll just never carry anything other than a G19/G17 as an EDC. For myself I just don't see the point or benefits to having an even smaller gun. But if I did it would definitely be a 43x MOS/48, I had a P320 and got rid of it due to trust issues and I'll never own another sig ever again.
Dope video though, love the builds!
My P365XL build feels better to shoot with my Glock.
You gotta be under 300 lbs to see the benefit of a smaller gun, most people can’t hide a Glock 17 in their fat rolls like you tubby!
Why trust issues?
Agreed 100%
The p365 looks like a really great gun but I can’t get over the sig name :/ maybe my loss but I do enjoy carrying my 19 with Sro and radian ramjet
@nlmaster9811 they initially were not drop safe, and sig never did a proper recall over fears of losing contracts. Makes you wonder if there are other problems with the design they are ignoring
You got extra 43x holster you wanna get rid of? Lol
Bought 43x, was fully sold on it from all the videos I saw. Completely tricked it out, slide, barrel, trigger, sights, dot, magwell, stippled. Pretty much only think OEM is grip. Runs just as well as factory, never had issues, but that grip angle CHRIST! The sight radius is so damn short on the thing that the front sight is half way up in the window of your dot and I was constantly searching for the dot. I thought I was just a big fucking idiot that couldn’t do it. Then I bought X Macro Tacops and realized it wasn’t me. I can drawn that and get sight picture immediately every time. Sigs grip just better aligns with the way I naturally hold pistols.
I think you can build out a 43x for less than $2100
After all upgrades it looks like Christmas tree.
Bad Axx looking Christmas tree.😊
Both are great firearms. But the ease of complete breakdown with the Glock wins imo. But some would argue when are you ever going to need to completely break down your firearm? But if it happens I know I can do it quickly with my Glock, and have the parts to fix whatever needs fixing. Whatever platform you choose to carry I feel it's important to learn how to replace any part in the pistol.
The Sig breaks down just as fast if maybe a little faster and you don't have to pull the trigger I like the Glock more but the Sig clearly has the edge in takedown.
@@timtaylor1483 I disagree, so please educate me on why Sig Clearly has the edge?
@@russdennis7026 the Sig has a 3 step takedown the glock has 4.
@@timtaylor1483 I said a complete breakdown not a field strip. Every single part out of the gun.
Those cowitness sights on the 43x are atrocious imo…. But anything for an RMRcc I guess…
MEGA-CHUD!
Respect & love to my Sig Brothers but it's Glock Gang all day lol
Sig is by far ahead of Glock. I love my g19.5 but it’s not a comparison between this and any of my sigs.
I personally would not appendix carry a striker gun that lacks a trigger dingus, I won't carry sigs for that reason.
Bro I just don't trust sig. I've seen wayyy too many videos of them firing from a little bit of contact. I know its predominantly a p320 problem but i the 365 is just a mini version of that. I would say the hellcat pro is probably the happy medium between both in safety, reliability, capacity, and size. People just hate on it because it's springfield
ive read that the fire control for the 365 is different than that of the 320... also the issues from gen 1 p320s have apparently been resolved later with the newer gen 320s... considering they have a military contract now being standard issue with the p320 m17 model.
My brother, I'm sure the tacopps is going to be a top dog in the food chain of handguns, but !!! All I can tell you is the mighty sig sauer p365 x macro comp letf me high and dry.. I had complete trust and confidence in it. Showed all my buddies at work. One guy got the p365 x. Dude, all I can say is the x macro comp left me feeling naked with a tremendous case of stage fright. Glock has NEVER let me down. Wish they would come out of the box with all the bells and whistles, but what the heck.
I love Glock for the same reason I love Toyota, they just work. Having said that, they need a lot of love out of the box. Sights are awful. Grip texture is very below average. The trigger shoe will eat your finger after a lengthy session. But then you have brands like S&W and Canik that are very reliable and have “premium” features out the box. Which in essence make are more affordable because you don’t have to upgrade so many components.
There is no vs, both can be in your carry rotation
M&P Shield enters the chat...
Hey i own those two firearms. Rate my groups dude, my second to last yt short.
ironically i have the Romeo X compact on my Glock 43x, as funnily, Amazon has them on deck and i got my optic literally within 12 hours of placing the order.
I also have a pair of the shield mags that i use at the range; though im realizing i shouldn't be using them with the factory MR
Sig
Glock reliability goes out the window with shield arms mags
You forgot to mention that the sig is almost twice the price of
Tis a fact
450-500 for the Glock. 620-650 for the sig if it’s the non comp version. Sig is about 50% more over the Glock. Does come with reliable higher cap mags and night sights that are not plastic. Pretty much evens out.
100 bucks for sights
50 bucks per shield mag.
This isnt even a comparison: the sig straight from the factory is superior
EVERYONE SHUT UP!!!!! Gunmen just dropped!!!!! Top 10 Guntubers!!!!
This is a $2500 (tax incl.) glock setup...yikes
$485 gun
$320 sight
$60 sight adapter plate
$120 ironsights
$130 light
$170 barrel
$70 trigger
$90 piston to actually use supressor
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$960 ( excl. gun + supressor)
$1445 (with gun purch.)
$2145 Gun + supressor + accessories (if you buy a cheap $500 supressor + $200 tax stamp)
Neglected to add the possitive:
This video is incredible. The Glock build is so aesthetically perfect, and your action scenes and style make it look like you should be in an action movie as, at the very least, one of the really tough assasins that nearly beat the main character. Kudos and please keep up the inspiring work.
If you're inaccurate with a Glock, you won't shoot the Sig well either. The brand doesn't matter. It's you.
I’m sorry, I can’t do your voice. Sorry