The Orange Filter, 550nm Infrared Filter
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- čas přidán 4. 09. 2024
- Shooting and editing infrared images with a 550nm Orange filter. Can you set a custom white balance on green grass, like you can with other infrared filters? Can you color swap images shot with an orange filter? How does it compare with a 590nm infrared cut-off filter?
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Great video. I bought a orange filter and got totally frustrated by the results so I stopped. I was white balancing off the grass.
Thanks, Rob.
Dear Rob, thanks for this one because it was very useful to me. I had a Canon M converted to 720nm over a year ago and thanks to your output on here, was able to get that all really sorted for shooting and post production. Although I had a Cannon M10 converted to full spectrum, it only arrived back recently due to Covid, staff sickness and all that good stuff so I didn't have the light and foliage to work with because we are in Winter here in the UK until I watched this episode on using an orange filter, excellent gave me full spectrum images to work with :)
Thanks for the info, I didn't know that about the white balance and the 550nm. Lately I've been off the deep end around 350nm and enjoying it. A whole new world of editing,
UV, fun!
The 550 is so solid, it's been my go-to for a while, and was the first filter I bought when I got my full spectrum a6000. Night and day difference having all that visible color to work with after struggling to get rich color from the 720nm on unconverted cams.
One thing that's helped me a ton is discovering that WhiBal cards are neutral into the near infrared spectrum. Sometimes if I can't find mine, I can get away with getting a custom white balance off a piece of scrap paper or the white back of one of my filter holders, but the card is more consistent.
Agreed. While an 18% gray card is the ideal white balance target, even for IR, I usually get good results WB on pavement or other color neutral subjects.
I'm delighted to see your video on the 550. It's been my predominant filter for the past two years, and I often think I'm the only one who uses it. I just love it - especially for botanical closeup work. I do find it more challenging due to the softer focus on those subjects and its serious chromatic aberration issues. Still worth it, imo.
Have you tried an APO lens? That could improve the focus and chromatic aberration issues.
@@robshea Thank you for the suggestion - I actually didn't know about APO. I see a few decent-looking choices. If I can also find a mount adapter, I'll give it a go!
Thanks for another highly informative and helpful video. I'm thinking about having the IR filter removed from my D300 so I can buy and use a collection of external IR and UV filters. Your work on these videos is greatly appreciated.
Great video Rob :) 2 great pieces of advice for me personally. Firstly, not to use grass for the 550 filter custom WB and Secondly, about the notches to tighten up Kolari filters. One of mine was very loose and rattling badly. Thanks :)
I love all of your videos. I’m new to ir photography and all of your videos are detailed with great information. Thanks Rob, I learned alot! I’m looking forward to more videos!
Excellent, thanks!
I did not realize that my B + W #40 was a 515nm. I'm testing with a 49mm filter since it is much less costly before going bigger if I so desire. It is a fun filter so far.
Thanks Rob how did you get the pink foliage against turquoise skies with the orange filter, I love that look. 😊
Using the channel mixer in Photoshop or any program with a channel mixer: The Red and Blue output channels are swapped. Additionally, the Green channel is set to 0% Green and 100% Red.
In my free Photoshop Actions, this is called "IR RB Swap, G to R". 590.red/infrared-actions3
In my LR IR Color Swap Profiles, this is called "RB G-R". 590.red/lr-ir-color-swap
It would be interesting to see how these various filters change the image when converted to B&W.
Two things are most noticeable when comparing images shot with various IR high-pass after converted to monochrome. The most dramatic difference will be in the sky. Higher numbered high-pass filters will result in darker skies and water. The highest can produce black skies and water. This also creates a high contrast with clouds. Secondly, foliage will allow more visible light with lower numbered high-pass filters, resulting in darker tones. Foliage is brighter with higher numbered high-pass filters.
In general, lower numbered high-pass filters will produce less contrast and higher-numbered high-pass filters will produce more contrast.
Thank you for the straight forward, no bullshit, no fluff explanation. I appreciate it. What do you mean by splitting green between blue and red? I am using Photoshop to color swap
The basic color swap uses the channel mixer to assign 100% blue to the red channel and 100% red to the blue channel. In addition to that, splitting green means in the green channel, assign 50% to red and 50% to blue, 0% to green.
thank you for all the information you give us and i have a question
after watching almost all your videos and reading your blog i currently have an unconverted fuji camera and FD50/1.8 and hoya R72 i noticed there is almost no way to get a pic where u can color swap, yes i can have an infrared pics and turn it to a nice BW image but color swap there is simply no way.
am i right? do i need a converted camera with 590 for example to get the color swap image i see u take
thank you Rob
You should be able to color swap a 720nm image taken with an unconverted camera, but it's definitely harder. The Hoya R72 is solid and the FD prime lens should be good. Is there not enough color in the images you are getting? Feel free to send me a sample image at 590.red/share
@@robshea everything comes with bronze hue for some reason i tried it with two camera ill drop 2 files for you each with a different camera
Here are my results with these two images.
www.dropbox.com/s/zmgfoo13yks2fq0/Sippin%27%20Happiness%20-%20DSC00169.jpg?dl=1
www.dropbox.com/s/ppywbbsvils6bea/Sippin%27%20Happiness%20-%20DSCF2771.jpg?dl=1
I applied the X-T100 profile from the Infrared Profile Pack. 590.red/ipp
I set a white balance using the WB picker, pointing to the buildings.
I added 2.5 stops of the exposure to the image shot on the Sony.
I did an Edit in Photoshop. Ran an action from the Photoshop Actions: 590.red/actions3
@@robshea thank you so much so u think its the greenery just not enough? that what make it not "pop" as the typical infrared images
thank you so much again for everything u do to help us
@@sippinhappiness793 Look for compositions where the greenery can contrast against the sky or neutral objects and you are good!
Hi Rob, thanks for these insightful videos! When going for the Kodachrome look, I've seen how it can be emulated with 550nm and 590nm filters. Would you say that there is a significant advantage with 550nm over 590nm?
With it's increase saturation and contrast, it would be easier to emulate the look of Kodachrome with 550nm.
I've shot IR for a few years and learned a good amount from your video. Thanks!
Quick question, do mirrorless cameras, specifically Nikons, give better results compared to a converted DSLR?
I love my D7100 590nm but considering converting a Z5. Wondering if there are any gotchas with IR and mirrorless systems.
Cheers
I prefer mirrorless cameras due to their size and features, such as focus peaking. A DSLR can make a fine IR camera as well, just be aware of the focus calibration and stick to live view. You can get more details on this topic here: czcams.com/video/x8qPjn3hzNc/video.html
@@robshea can I get my ir camera calibrated to my favourite lens? Is that a thing?
@@anima6035 For DSLRs, focus can be calibrated to support a single lens. This limits DSLR viewfinder focusing to that specific lens. This is not required for focusing in live view with DSLRs or at all for mirrorless cameras.
Hello Rob,
Sorry for bothering again but I ordered a Hoya YA3 pro, an orange filter, is this the kind of filter you are talking in this video?
I’d use it on my full spectrum camera along with the Hoya IR72 I already own.
Thanks,
Fabrizo
Yes, the Hoya YA3 Pro Orange is a 550nm "orange" filter.
@@robshea ok, thank you very much.
Hi, is it possible to get this effect straghit out of the camera? Only with white balance?
Most cameras do not support the white balance range to get this straight out of camera with infrared high-pass filters. The raw file they create does have the needed range, but requires a raw editor to get it.
Do you have any knowledge or opinions on the Kolari inferred full spectrum pocket camera??
I've created two videos on the Kolari Pocket.
Kolari Pocket Full Spectrum Camera Preview czcams.com/video/TtYNF98_-ds/video.html
Kolari Pocket Review czcams.com/video/e0l9JV5Ji14/video.html
Hello Rob, I got my Hoya orange filter YA3 but I’m a bit disappointed.
I do the WB on a neutral part then the channel swapping but I don’t have the blue sky and the yellow foliage.
On the contrary, I have a pale blue sky and the trees and grass stay green.
I use Capture One and Affinity Photo.
Thanks in advance,
Fabrizio
Did you use this on a converted or unconverted camera? This filter will only produce these results on a full-spectrum converted camera.
@@robshea yes, I have full spectrum camera, a Canon 70D which I made convert for Astro photography.
Can it also depend on weather conditions? It was a sunny day but it’s not Summer yet.
@@fabriziocanale9768 Feel free to send a raw image to me at 590.red/share
@@robshea ok, thank you very much.
@@robshea I uploaded a photo right now.
At the moment I’m not at home and I have only a jpg.
This jog came out from a WB and a Channel Mixer action in Affinty Photo.
If you want the raw file, I can send it as well.
Rob, did you try this filter on Canon cameras. No matter what I do I can't get
good processed IR images.
BTW, if you put a note in your videos which camera being used that would help a lot.
Thanks for the feedback. The sensor could have an impact, but I don't think it would be dramatic. Feel free to send a raw file and I can take a look. 590.red/share
Is there anyway i can recreate this effect?
Without an orange filter and a full spectrum camera, you might be able to tweak the hues in photoshop to get a look somewhat like this.