Lazy J J20 (Part 1)

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  • čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
  • Webpage: www.bradsguitargarage.com.au
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    Equipment:
    Soldering:
    Pace MBT station w/SX100 & PS-90 handpieces
    Hakko 474 w/815 handpiece
    Hakko 936 w/907 handpiece
    Hakko FX-888D w/FX-8801 handpiece
    Quick 861DW hot air station
    BOFA fume extraction unit
    Loctite Multicore solder (C511 / 362)
    Test Equipment:
    Fluke 11, 175, 177 & 179 handheld DMM's
    Tektronix 2236 analog oscilloscope
    Rigol DS-1054z digital oscilloscope
    BK Precision 4017A sweep / function generator
    BWD 160a function generator
    HP 6236B triple output DC power supply
    Kyoritsu 3132A insulation / continuity tester
    Video equipment:
    Overhead cam: Panasonic HC-V785 w/Audio Technica AT9946CM mic
    Handheld cam: Panasonic DC-G85 w/Olympus M.Zuiko Pro 12-40mm f/2.8
    On location cam: Panasonic DC-GH5s w/Panasonic-Leica 9mm f/1.7 & 12-60mm f/2.8
    Capture card(s): Magewell HDMI USB, ATEN UC3020-AT, ATEN UC3021
    Headset Mic: Audio Technica BP892xcW-TH
    Lapel Mic: Rode Go
    Editing: Adobe Premiere Elements
    Hand Tools:
    Wiha, Felo, Stanley screwdrivers
    CK & Engineer cutters / pliers
    RS Pro wire strippers
    Sidchrome & Gear Wrench spanners, sockets & shifters
    Veritas planes & chisels
    Materials / Consumables:
    JJ's / TAD electron valves
    Elixir / Ernie Ball / D'Addario / Rotosound strings
    Electrolube & DeoxIT cleaners, lubricants & chemicals.

Komentáře • 170

  • @ddqd123
    @ddqd123 Před 10 měsíci +56

    That's why it's a "Lazy J" and not the less popular but more reliable "Thought This Through J"

  • @jeffbrooks7246
    @jeffbrooks7246 Před 10 měsíci +14

    WOW! As a Canadian our dollar is pretty much on par with the Ausey dollar and there is no way in hell I would pay 8K for something like that.

  • @jl5544
    @jl5544 Před 10 měsíci +9

    I have a lazy j 20 which bought about 6 years ago, but without trem or reverb, it the best amp i,ve ever had. I,ve done at least 200 gigs with this amp and never had any problems with it. It,s the best sounding i ,ve ever played through. I have few old vintage fenders, 65 bandmaster head , 64 tremolux head/ a s/f bassman/and a 68 bandmaster reverb , but i always gig the lazy j . best amp ever.

    • @BradsGuitarGarage
      @BradsGuitarGarage  Před 10 měsíci +14

      Well that's fantastic. I'm happy they've built at least one reliable amp.
      The biggest weak points in this amp are how the trem and reverb were implemented, which explains why yours is likely more reliable.

    • @PsionicAudio
      @PsionicAudio Před 10 měsíci +26

      I have Amp Comment Bingo!!!

  • @paultaylor2968
    @paultaylor2968 Před 10 měsíci +8

    Hey Brad thanks for the insight. Just shows you that an amp can be pretty and sound ok but looking close can reveal all fur coat and no knickers . I know the that pedal show guys big up the lazy js and boogies .....it's like guys that know how to drive a car but don't know how to change a wheel . Great content .❤

  • @soapboxearth2
    @soapboxearth2 Před 10 měsíci +4

    I bought the cheapest 5e3 kit on eBay last year to start my journey/obsession into amp building.
    The chassis that it came with looks SO much better and I'd dare say my very first build is tidyer than that. And I am in no way patting myself on the back, I'm a noob for sure.
    I was so excited to see a lazy j.. what a letdown.

  • @miltonbrown9305
    @miltonbrown9305 Před 10 měsíci +5

    I’m in a 2 guitar band and my mates Lazy J is hands down the best sounding small combo I’ve ever heard. I’ve had 4 other amps to try and at least be in a matching tone landscape. Every guitar he puts through it sound great and every pedal colours exactly as it should. Amazing amps.

    • @DrKevGuitar
      @DrKevGuitar Před 10 měsíci +1

      Which is in spite of the obvious issues, not because of them.

    • @Guitar11player
      @Guitar11player Před 10 měsíci

      Friend I've got a $150. Stage right amp with its reverb tank changed to an 18-inch Fender reverb tank and a $35. tremolo pedal package that probably blows that thing away! Sorry, you wasted your money. $$$$$8,000 thousand smackaroos for that thing is bad judgement!

    • @user-dr5tw7jc3n
      @user-dr5tw7jc3n Před 9 dny

      Does it keep up with your amp and the drummer? What wattage is it? Wondering if 20 watt will be loud enough

    • @miltonbrown9305
      @miltonbrown9305 Před 16 hodinami

      Plenty loud enough. Think Deluxe volume but more clean headroom if you need it.

    • @miltonbrown9305
      @miltonbrown9305 Před 16 hodinami

      @@Guitar11player I doubt it. Those amps are toys but if it works for you … enjoy.

  • @Ireland831
    @Ireland831 Před 10 měsíci +7

    I built mine for a few hundred. It is EPIC sounding. I had to do a lot to get it into the sweet spot but $8K USD or AUD is nuts for any amp.

  • @GetTheLedOut8585
    @GetTheLedOut8585 Před 10 měsíci +6

    I'm actually amazed that someone who charges north of $5k USD for this heap of nightmare fuel actually found enough buyers to develop any reputation at all. You could have a Super Reverb AND a 5E3 for that, without all that pesky immolation...

  • @gringopig
    @gringopig Před 10 měsíci +13

    I had one of these. Fitted with VAC and reverb unit. It went on fire! Completely melted the mains transformer and all taps were open circuit. Smoke belched out the back. The maker had bolted a fan to the side of the transformer which was a puny Mojotone model totally unsuited for the 6L6GC and extra valves in the reverb unit. He also takes the entire preamp signal out the chassis to the reverb unit and back again. I got it fixed with a new Hammond but I was always wary of it and sold it not that long after. Shitty kit amps in my opinion.

    • @BradsGuitarGarage
      @BradsGuitarGarage  Před 10 měsíci +7

      Holy shit! Thanks for sharing, mate!
      How these builders keep getting away with this I have no idea.
      More detailed analysis to come in the next episodes.

    • @gringopig
      @gringopig Před 10 měsíci +4

      ​@@BradsGuitarGaragealso check the VAC control. He doesn't regulate the screen voltage at the same time as the plate. It stays at full voltage. There is a Hammond model with 6A on the 6.3V line. It just fits.

    • @PsionicAudio
      @PsionicAudio Před 10 měsíci +18

      Yeah, I corrected the scaling in the one I had so it varied the screens too. Had to move the LFO to a different node. And remove a ton of ground loops.
      Literal hot garbage.

    • @BradsGuitarGarage
      @BradsGuitarGarage  Před 10 měsíci +7

      This one varies the output from the rectifier, all nodes other than the trem node are derived from the VVR output. The trem node pulls via a 4.7K dropper from the rectifier.
      At least it looks like he resolved that.
      But the transformer choice is inexcusable.
      There must be a lot of angry people out there.

    • @gringopig
      @gringopig Před 10 měsíci +3

      ​@@BradsGuitarGarage Indeed. I was one of them. I'll never buy another of his. I should also mention the blown speaker which can't handle the output and the faulty reverb unit which had to be replaced when it started cutting out. This was after I paid £400 to get all the problems fixed. Mind you, in France somewhere, there is an indestructible Lazy J20 somewhere after I sold it.

  • @scottwilcox6313
    @scottwilcox6313 Před 10 měsíci +5

    John Farnham is just a legend. This amp is just a POS kit amp with a great speaker. Really, WTF. Great video, Brad. Its like a Mesa.
    So professional you kept your cool.

  • @maxegarots1507
    @maxegarots1507 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Looking forward to part 2 of this Lazy mess.

  • @DrDavis77
    @DrDavis77 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Appreciating the wit here in England , champion! But this is all very odd. These are hugely respected amps in the UK, built by a very trusted amp tech called Jesse Hoff who is one of the loveliest guys you could meet. He does almost zero marketing - most stuff sold by word of mouth and reputation with frequent orders from huge names like Gilmour, Pete Townshend et al. He will sort problems at the drop of a hat if you call him. That transformer looks odd to me. I wonder if someone else has been at that amp since it was first built or whether it’s been damaged somehow. My valves definitely aren’t bent (your honour) and it sounds glorious with 6L6s.

  • @premierguitars
    @premierguitars Před 9 měsíci +8

    Greetings all, Adam here from Premier Guitars in Sydney. We are one of the dealers for Lazy J Amplifiers in Australia. Just wanted to firstly clear up the incorrect price stated on this video - a brand new Lazy J J20 with reverb and tremolo is approximately AUD $4.5k landed in Australia (depending on exchange rates), not $8k as stated in this video. I've sold over 40 of these amps with only extremely positive feedback from all buyers. I also personally own a Lazy J J20 and couldn't be happier with it. Personal preference with regard to construction methods is not necessary as these construction methods (wood screws etc) have been used for over 50 years. Not here to burst anyones bubble, just wanted to clear a few things up, mainly correcting the price and to mention user experience, which is resoundingly positive. If anyone has any further questions about Lazy J products you can get in touch with me - more than happy to answer any enquiries. Cheers, Adam

    • @BradsGuitarGarage
      @BradsGuitarGarage  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Hi Adam, yes I was off on the pricing which I clarify in later episodes.
      I had nothing to go off other than the 2nd hand market and your pricing on your website was last updated April 2020 and as I'm sure you're aware, the pricing on everything (especially labour, valves and valve related components) has increased dramatically since.
      In hindsight I should have rung you to get an accurate up to date quote.
      All of the technical issues still stand, however.
      My international network of tech friends have confirmed this.
      I'm just reporting what I find from a technical standpoint.
      Can I ask what the warranty policy is on a transformer failure in an amp built on 9/2/22 for others reading along?
      At any rate, thanks for reaching out and any clarification on the other technical stuff would be appreciated.

    • @premierguitars
      @premierguitars Před 9 měsíci +3

      Hi Brad, the reason why the price hasn't been updated on our website since April 2020 is because it is still the same price! I think that pulling figure like $8k out of thin air is irresponsible and certainly detrimental to Jesse's brand, especially considering the negative comments it has generated (having the incorrect price in the thumbnail photo on the video doesn't help). I spoke with Jesse last night, and with regard to warranty - there is a year warranty on parts and labour. If the owner experiences any problems they simply would have to contact Lazy J directly, or even a dealer like us. We would be more than happy to resolve the problem immediately - Jesse even said 'I just want my customers to be happy' and he often has fixed issues outside of the warranty period. I must say that Jesse is a lovely guy, and it is disappointing to see such negativity about someone who cares deeply about his product, his customers and the music community. Feel free to reach out if there are any further questions. @@BradsGuitarGarage

    • @BradsGuitarGarage
      @BradsGuitarGarage  Před 9 měsíci +8

      I don't care who is a lovely person. AGAIN, I OBJECTIVELY review equipment from a technical standpoint.
      Why do you try to bring emotion into it to manipulate my opinion?
      I repeated the fact that I derived the price from the inflated used market. Here's one that would approach $8k if customs costs were included, as there were no ones for sale in Australia and at the time of publishing I was unaware that there was an official Australian dealer.
      ( For example: reverb.com/au/item/74225587-lazy-j-lazy-j-j20-with-reverb-vac-and-tremolo-in-lacquered-tweed?INTL-AU-Shop_unpaid& )
      You seem to be ignoring the fact that the technical issues still stand.
      I didn't write the rules on electronics. Don't blame the messenger.
      A retraction regarding the pricing will be posted, however I stand by all my observations regarding the architecture and operation of the amplifier. Of course everyone defending the amp with regard only to the pricing accuracy is diverting from the real issue. It's an expensive amplifier with several serious issues. Two of which makes the power transformer fail. Which is exactly what happened here.
      I owe my customers and followers honesty and that's what I'll give them which is why I'll change the thumbnail and post a retraction ONLY with regard to the pricing. I really don't care at all if manufacturers or dealers still have a problem with that.
      50-60% dissipation on a cathode biased amp? Really? Do you know what that means? Business cards used as insulators? Really?
      Crossover distortion? Noise? Hiss? Hum? Tremolo pumping? Ground loops? Are you aware of these concepts? I showed them all in these videos. Did you watch them? Did you understand them?
      If not, you have no right to comment on the validity of my observations.
      If you feel it was not a fair review or that this model was not representative of a Lazy J amplifier, send me one for review. Put your money where your mouth is, otherwise, just don't bother commenting.
      I objectively review equipment from a technical standpoint. That will never change.

    • @siriusamplification
      @siriusamplification Před 9 měsíci +4

      ​@@premierguitarsI think you missed the whole objective, which is regardless of Jesse's "feelings", and that is the lack of care in building an amplifier that can't pass Australia's current electrical safety standards for one. Secondly, even at $4500 AUD, this is still a very inferior built, expensive mojotone kit with a different badge on the front. Trying to muscle any kind of apology out of Brad because of the truth makes you and Jesse look even more like a fool, regardless of what the price point is. maybe focus on importing better products in the future instead of this crap!

    • @fluidaudiogroup
      @fluidaudiogroup Před 9 měsíci +4

      ​@@premierguitarsWhat part of the review did you find technically inaccurate? 'Negative' and 'negativity' are fairly nebulous descriptors, I could use more quantitative ones in your argument.

  • @RaymondwLin
    @RaymondwLin Před 10 měsíci +3

    "how it came from the factory", there is no factory. It's 1 guy making it in a spare room in his house....I've been there in person to pick mine up. It is the definition of boutique.

  • @sjgreaves
    @sjgreaves Před 10 měsíci +4

    To me, the fact it is allegedly a 20 watt amp and they have fitted a 15Watt RMS speaker to it is a massive red flag before you start - no disassembly or technical knowledge required to see that.

  • @bambule5268
    @bambule5268 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I would gladly pay 8000aus for a 5e3 if it had a foam machine and blue strobing leds included! Great video Brad, looking forward for part 2 and for a peak inside those inclosures.

  • @hisproperty1438
    @hisproperty1438 Před 10 měsíci +1

    G'day Brad. Andrew here - medium time watcher, 1st time bloody legend.
    I've only watched 4 minutes of your video so far, but I've already figured out the price-vs-fittings issue you've mentioned - that's the performance Porsche model. You can buy a base 911 Porsche for $120K, or you can buy upgraded models. To upgrade a 911, Porsche leave off parts, add more letters to the model name, then charge you more money for it all. Obviously, you're working on the GT3-RS of guitar amps.
    And yes, I do get the John Farnham jokes, but I prefer the Thorpie & Angus jokes.
    I'm enjoying your videos, so I'll get back to this one.
    Keep up the good work
    Andrew

  • @AussieCornerStudio
    @AussieCornerStudio Před měsícem

    Thanks Brad, I really enjoy your repairs. The commentary just so funny. On the serious side how you go into detail. Only a Tech will understand what you mean. I've already given Shane from IntheBlues YT channel the nickname the Professor and his mate Rick the Doctor unreal guitar play. Brad your name would be "The Emperor" your words of truth, honesty and knowledge share amongst the mortals. Bloody funny with a swear word and good old Aussie stick that in your hat and smoke it approach. Love the line come on Fender you Dickheads putting in cheap filter caps on a Deluxe. I watch these videos' at 2 or 3 am because I suffer from Insomnia. Laugh my head off at that time of the morning because your so funny with the comments but my wife gets pissed off. Pay back she snores so we are even LOL.

  • @johnwilliamson467
    @johnwilliamson467 Před 10 měsíci +4

    For 8k with no chokes , no regulated bias , and too small a main transformer value then ? For 8k it should be a M1A tank with regulated heaters and over built power supply .

  • @murrayguitarpickups9545
    @murrayguitarpickups9545 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Removing that foam will take the pressure down, Sadie the cleaning lady can dust the control panel and before you know it you're the voice of rock n roll.....😂

  • @LollygaggerFX
    @LollygaggerFX Před 10 měsíci +3

    Are you fucking kidding me?!?! 8K for a high school project??

  • @TheMorganOrgan
    @TheMorganOrgan Před 10 měsíci +4

    The one thing which isn’t lazy is the pricing.

  • @mrjonradford
    @mrjonradford Před 5 měsíci

    I’ve seen a couple of Lazy J amps that needed all the solder joints re-doing. One of which had been back twice to Jessy himself and he was unable to fix the problem. Dry joints everywhere!

  • @goodun2974
    @goodun2974 Před 10 měsíci +2

    6V6 tubes use .45 amps of heater current each but 6L6's use .9 amps apiece. Add in 3) 12AX7's at 300 milliamps each, and the transformer has to produce 1.8 amps more than it would for a regular Deluxe amp.

    • @BradsGuitarGarage
      @BradsGuitarGarage  Před 10 měsíci +5

      I'm going to take this one back to 6V6, even with the new higher rated transformer.

    • @billsutherland9193
      @billsutherland9193 Před 10 měsíci

      I guess I should have read this before I said the same thing

    • @goodun2974
      @goodun2974 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@billsutherland9193 great minds think alike? 🤔😉

  • @jasonktong1
    @jasonktong1 Před 10 měsíci +3

    $8k, for real?

  • @rogercray2484
    @rogercray2484 Před 10 měsíci

    …Friday arvo build QC check maybe …thoroughly enjoyed your super dry review ..reminded me of Rango at his very best 👍😎

  • @charlieplate9687
    @charlieplate9687 Před 10 měsíci

    “Also, since modern mass production techniques are usually cost driven, one often finds that corners are cut in the quality of the parts that are used as well as the production process…’good enough’ is often sufficient. Conversely, when you build amps by hand, you can choose to do better than that. You can choose to make things better than they have to be…”
    😉

  • @robertbozic4692
    @robertbozic4692 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Hi Brad, I used a Hammond deluxe reverb in my 5E3, got it from EVATCO and suits their 5E3 chassis and also the Mojotone chassis

  • @Polyphemus.
    @Polyphemus. Před 10 měsíci +1

    Wow, just a brief check online, these things are a major pain in the ass to buy too. Not that I'm interested, I just used to work in music retail so my brain goes straight to 'I wonder who's responsible for stuff like this coming into the country?'. Turns out there's no wholesaler, no real retailers as such, just some random dudes from a shop in Sydney and another in Canberra who act as agents to take a deposit and put you in touch with the builder directly and they sort the rest out from there. Not sure where the $8K comes from, current pricing seems to suggest more like $5.5K AUD, but that's still outrageous. Prices are based on whatever the UK to Aussie exchange rate is on the day. Import duties, shipping and taxes are added on top. So... no firm prices? No warranty I presume? F*** that. Imagine spending all that money and this pile of turd turns up. And then catches on fire.

  • @chrisquinn9104
    @chrisquinn9104 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Dan from That Pedal Show loves his

    • @keiranbradley3238
      @keiranbradley3238 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Have you ever seen a negative review of anything on "that pedal show" or shows like it?.
      Didn't think so, your own ears are the best defence against listening with your eyes!.
      Beware of snake-oil salesmen.

  • @dcallan812
    @dcallan812 Před 10 měsíci +3

    It looks a bit home made. 🤣🤣👍👍

  • @fatShowPony
    @fatShowPony Před 10 měsíci +1

    Does this pos carry any approvals markings? The transformer would have failed temp rise on 60335.

  • @Cpt_Adama
    @Cpt_Adama Před 10 měsíci +2

    This guy is fortunate you would even attempt fixing this mess. Most repair techs would probably pass on this job.

    • @terrydemol5354
      @terrydemol5354 Před 10 měsíci +1

      If you know what you are doing, (most techs) jobs like this are run of the mill work. The transformer can be re-wound no probs. I'd rather work on an 8k amp than a < 1k Chinese job. :)

    • @fluidaudiogroup
      @fluidaudiogroup Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@terrydemol5354I'm most cases yes but there are exceptions. For example, I'd rather work on a JCA then a modern Mesa.

  • @jimtherevoltor
    @jimtherevoltor Před 10 měsíci +2

    I would find out if this is the real deal before slating it too much, there are lots of fakes around, lazy j will happily verify it. They are hugely respected in the uk and have a massive waiting list to get one, if they were badly made they definitely wouldn’t have the rep they do over here.

    • @PsionicAudio
      @PsionicAudio Před 10 měsíci +2

      This is the real deal. Exactly the same as the one I had on my bench, exactly the same as the shots on their website.

    • @johnelcanrab2114
      @johnelcanrab2114 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@PsionicAudioyou dream killer 😂😂😂🎉😢

  • @drgearaustralia
    @drgearaustralia Před 10 měsíci +1

    Another prime example of a salesman getting into amp building, providing a substandard product with all the right buzz words to make the tone hounds salivate.
    This is the difference between people like The Pedal Show guys loving it because it sounds ok, and a technician or engineer looking at it and seeing the realities of it's build quality and flaws. There is nothing here to justify the price tag and this will be used as more proof why buyers should avoid most boutique builders.

  • @3660359
    @3660359 Před 22 dny

    I bought an artist tweed tone v 5w tube amp for $150 AUD. Sounds the same as this and no one can tell the difference and no one cares about my gear lol. Win!

  • @I.Kamintsev
    @I.Kamintsev Před 10 měsíci +1

    is this try not to laugh challenge?

  • @chuckfarley7642
    @chuckfarley7642 Před 10 měsíci

    As someone who spent months building and customizing a 5E3 kit, this makes me sad. Why would you take such a classic circuit and then change every single thing about it? If you wanted 6L6es wouldn’t it make more sense to start with a Fender 6L6 design from the same era?
    I do like the blue speaker - mine has that one too.

  • @thingsthatshouldnotbesaid4135
    @thingsthatshouldnotbesaid4135 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Where can I buy a "f#ck you, You mean NOTHING to me" Brads Guitar Garage Tee Shirt?

  • @RobbieF
    @RobbieF Před 10 měsíci +2

    Why would anyone spend that much money on a questionable clone of a vintage amp?

  • @siriusamplification
    @siriusamplification Před 10 měsíci +1

    I got the Farnam joke mate, my reflexes are fast and I caught it 😂 So someone obviously bought this hodge podge for $8K? maybe I should double my price lol

    • @BradsGuitarGarage
      @BradsGuitarGarage  Před 10 měsíci +2

      There is soooooo soooooo much more horror on the way in the following vids, mate.
      This thing is not fit for purpose in like 50 different ways.

    • @siriusamplification
      @siriusamplification Před 10 měsíci +2

      ​@@BradsGuitarGarageuseless fan, messy solderwork, what looks like a ground loop... I don't even know if I can see separated chassis ground from the video, but I wasn't trying to find it. but the 1590 enclosures for the addon circuits and not even proper faceplate when you spend so much money... that's just outright robbery

    • @BradsGuitarGarage
      @BradsGuitarGarage  Před 10 měsíci +3

      There's about 5 ground loops, mate!
      The biggest issue is the use of 6L6GC's, but that can be easily resolved.
      Once you know, anyway.
      See the other commenters whose J-20's have literally caught fire!

  • @matthewf1979
    @matthewf1979 Před 10 měsíci +1

    If I were to build a "Deluxe" with reverb and tremolo, I'd use a Pro chassis, cabinet and iron. Tweed baffles are ridiculously simple to swap around.
    I know that some modern "5E3" transformers can NOT handle anything but the 5 tubes in the original design. You can get ones that will handle the extra current fairly easy.
    Is there $8k worth of amp here? No.
    There's maybe $1000 in parts and the speaker is $400 of it.

    • @Satchmoeddie
      @Satchmoeddie Před 10 měsíci

      I'd quote $1200 for the basic 5E3 + $400 for the blue speaker. All that extra crap, maybe add another $1200-$1600 and it comes with transformers that will run 6L6s and extra 12A__7s. You are still all in for around $4000.

    • @matthewf1979
      @matthewf1979 Před 10 měsíci

      @@Satchmoeddie I would charge around $1800 - $2000 usd for a "Pro-Luxe" with reverb and tremolo.
      It's basically a black panel Princeton without the TMB tone stack and a couple different values here and there.
      And that's using all the "nice" parts. Jupiter caps, Mercury iron, Weber/Jupiter speaker etc.

  • @velutumbra
    @velutumbra Před 10 měsíci

    Build quality is not in the order of the day. Profit is. I know I lose money when the job is done properly, but still I try to do it well. If that customer does not return because he does not need to, someone else will be come through him. The same applies to builders. They should aim for quality, so more people would see their products as a reference, not as replaceable with something cheaper and better.

  • @WholeLottaBulldog
    @WholeLottaBulldog Před 10 měsíci

    Love this content, Bradley. Top quality production too, big boi.

  • @misterdecibel
    @misterdecibel Před 10 měsíci

    Hasn't Martin Rotsey of Midnight Oil been using a pair of these amps?

  • @jimcairns1633
    @jimcairns1633 Před 10 měsíci

    Well said!!!

  • @robertbarnes9745
    @robertbarnes9745 Před 10 měsíci

    If this is boutique, I'll take off the rack, thank you!

  • @sunnibird
    @sunnibird Před 10 měsíci +1

    Please tell me there's a video of recommended amps :)) Like many I've looked at amps like this, but don't know what to make of the quality or build as that's not my field. Online research is virtually useless as most are only concerned with reliability and tone.

    • @BradsGuitarGarage
      @BradsGuitarGarage  Před 10 měsíci +2

      To be honest, there's not many on the market from the big names at the moment, mate! Some Voxes are great, Suhr, Friedman, some Orange, etc. It depends on a lot of factors, like what style music, what features, power level, budget, you name it.

    • @sunnibird
      @sunnibird Před 10 měsíci

      @@BradsGuitarGarage Well that's just sad :D I sold a Roadster I'd only had about a year because I could foresee this sort of thing down the road as it's a 90s amp. I've been looking for an amp and honestly it just makes me want to go with a modeller or something. Was considering 5150 iii, but this sort of thing is everywhere as you say and without the background you just don't know what you're getting. Love the vids by the way.

    • @siriusamplification
      @siriusamplification Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@BradsGuitarGarageI'll ship you one of mine, then clench my butthole for the review 😂

    • @Sperzel
      @Sperzel Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@sunnibirdmy take: if you want a reliable amp with multiple channels and other bells and whistles it’s gonna cost you, simple as that. Friedman, Suhr, Diezel. The other option is to look for simple, serviceable amps and use pedals to get what you want. Fenders are also good because every tech knows them and their typical issues. You could even ask a tech to fix the usual issues before they make themselves known.

  • @baabaabaa-yp2jh
    @baabaabaa-yp2jh Před 10 měsíci +3

    Guitarist Magazine gave this amp the Gold Guitarist Choice medal when they came out!!
    Funny how they call themselves the Guitarists Bible!!?!!

  • @YeatzeeGuitar
    @YeatzeeGuitar Před 10 měsíci +1

    👀👀👀

  • @1Dougloid
    @1Dougloid Před 10 měsíci +1

    That is a lot of cabbage right there at current exchange rates.

  • @fredscott7534
    @fredscott7534 Před 10 měsíci

    Do we know? Definitely that this amp came with 6l6s. Some people believe that they are interchangeable with a six v6. If the owner changed it can't blame the amp company

    • @BradsGuitarGarage
      @BradsGuitarGarage  Před 10 měsíci +3

      It definitely did. It says so on the tube chart stuck on the inside of the cabinet and on the website.

  • @kennethquintini658
    @kennethquintini658 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Eight thousand dollars 🤣😮 for a 20 watt amp, wow!

  • @tedmich
    @tedmich Před 10 měsíci

    Omg that amps like the vintage Barracuda Kevin Hart almost killed himself in because it was "upgraded" with a modern supercharged 6.4-liter Hemi V-8 engine! Old is OLD!

  • @SirLoinMagroin
    @SirLoinMagroin Před 10 měsíci +1

    More than any Marshall. More than any Laney. Or Orange. Or Fender. Or anything. Except the most expensive amp for its class. I'll get back to you...

  • @canaan_perry
    @canaan_perry Před 10 měsíci +2

    It's only overpriced if they don't sell any. We can see they must be shifting some.

  • @ernestschultz5065
    @ernestschultz5065 Před 10 měsíci

    There is a sucker born every minute

    • @sunnibird
      @sunnibird Před 10 měsíci

      Musicians, particularly hobbyists, don't know much about this side of things. None of amp builders offer any insight as to what goes into there amps, and until you stumble across a channel like this.... well good luck. This sort of thing is rarely talked about in forums. It's all about "tone". The local music store doesn't allow for you to bring your amp tech in for a tear down.

  • @twitchbook-1
    @twitchbook-1 Před 10 měsíci

    cheers

  • @Stu66orn
    @Stu66orn Před 10 měsíci

    When part 2???? Can't wait.

    • @BradsGuitarGarage
      @BradsGuitarGarage  Před 10 měsíci +2

      Literally editing it over a beer right now, mate!
      It's not pretty.

    • @Stu66orn
      @Stu66orn Před 10 měsíci

      @@BradsGuitarGarage So waiting for it shame can't hit like more than once💯

  • @Slappedkat
    @Slappedkat Před 10 měsíci

    I dont get the concept of this amp. $8K and your reverb and trem pots are buried in the back of the amp??? How long is that $500+ speaker going to last? lol

  • @3a5gih41
    @3a5gih41 Před 10 měsíci

    Search the brand name. There are fakes being made according to posts online...
    Seems like this owner might have bought a copy or a fake... If you can copy a $5000 handbag you can sure as shlt copy an $8000 amp
    Did it have a serial number or marks from the builder on it?

    • @PsionicAudio
      @PsionicAudio Před 10 měsíci

      I can verify this piece of shit is 100% authentic Lazy J.

    • @lordgraga
      @lordgraga Před 10 měsíci +1

      If this was fake, how can the fan for the mains transformer be explained/excused? Cuz someone doing a clone wouldn’t bother adding a fan unless it was part of the original design. And if it was part of the original design, that is a bad choice to begin with, trying to compensate for a bad spec/design choice instead of fixing it. Kinda circles back.

    • @sjgreaves
      @sjgreaves Před 10 měsíci +1

      Plus their own website has links to reviews and at least one has a gutshot which looks identical.

    • @3a5gih41
      @3a5gih41 Před 10 měsíci

      @@lordgraga if you're building a fake with cheapest parts, it would make more sense to have whatever transformer, and to put a fan in, not knowing that it won't solve the issue...

    • @3a5gih41
      @3a5gih41 Před 10 měsíci

      @@sjgreaves ok, that might be more evidence to suggest it's legit... Always important to be skeptical...
      Was there a serial number on this amp?

  • @robertbozic4692
    @robertbozic4692 Před 10 měsíci

    I meant Deluxe reverb PT from Evatco

  • @okayestguitar66
    @okayestguitar66 Před 10 měsíci +1

    8000 bucks!? I'm not willing to 80 buck for it! What a sh*t build!

  • @Splattle101
    @Splattle101 Před 10 měsíci +1

    You know you're in for a load of bullshit as soon as you see the pot in the hole for the ground switch. It's obviously a backyard job, even if they've got a brand and an exorbitant price tag! $8,000? GTFO!

  • @shanebrbich5698
    @shanebrbich5698 Před 10 měsíci

    G’day mate. Your channel just “popped up” into my recommended’s! Nice work! You may wanna check out Kendrick amplifiers, (if you haven’t already). Gerald Weber is the owner and builder! He’s the man when it comes to ‘59 Bassman amps.
    I’ll check out more of your content
    👍

  • @BlakeC27
    @BlakeC27 Před 10 měsíci

    Should of gone got the "Thorough J' version instead. But seriously, I don't know weather to laugh or cry about the design of this amp. I don't think any amp builder worth a grain of salt would let something like this out of their workshop let alone charge $8K for it.

  • @tbonesullivan
    @tbonesullivan Před 10 měsíci

    What the... I'm just trying to figure out why anyone thought making an amp this way would be a good idea? Like you said, seriously just get a Princeton. Jeez. Can't believe they paid that much for an amp that is just gonna eat power transformers.

  • @shanepacey2934
    @shanepacey2934 Před 10 měsíci

    There are Aussie builders who make tgese for a lot less.
    Achilles and Johnson to name but two.

  • @billsutherland9193
    @billsutherland9193 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Here’s an idea. Use 6v6s.

  • @georgeonerato575
    @georgeonerato575 Před 10 měsíci +1

    wow. what a mess. and 8000 dollars? shameful. stay positive I guess. great videos Brad.

  • @jimcastillo8950
    @jimcastillo8950 Před 10 měsíci

    Seems like the person should have bought a blackface or silver face amp if reverb and tremolo were important to his tone.....

  • @lescaster2179
    @lescaster2179 Před 10 měsíci

    Unclear where the "$8,000" claim is coming from... that has to be some lame used "none in stock, so overpay for mine!" price. New, a few years back, they were under $2,000 and latest NEW I've seen is between $3,750 - $3,999. Granted this is over priced (but, you're paying for hand built, low-volume (# of units)), but it's a lot of cash for a modified tweed, regardless of the nuanced added build and tonal qualities. But, in today's world you could look at Dumble and say the same thing x100.
    Lazy J does make some of the best tweed amps out there, but for the money I'll stick with my TK Imperial MkII that gets me a modern take on a Blackface and a Tweed (1 yr old used CME lacquered tweed ltd edition for $1,750 - can't beat that with a stick). However, IF I had the cash to burn in front of my wife and the patience to shop for one, I'd love to own the latest iteration of the J10. :-)

  • @PeachEater81
    @PeachEater81 Před 7 měsíci

    A bf Princeton is fixed bias with a different preamp, so no, champ - not the same.

    • @BradsGuitarGarage
      @BradsGuitarGarage  Před 7 měsíci

      It's also got negative feedback, a different tone stack, different rectifier, several other differences. But I assumed even the most casual observer would understand I was talking about the feature set, mate.

  • @williambock1821
    @williambock1821 Před 10 měsíci

    Is that even really power scaling? Just looks like a common VVR. You’d think $8k would get you an actual London Power Scaling kit in it. I mean I could see maybe $1500 (USD) for the amp.

  • @SilentJayBird
    @SilentJayBird Před 10 měsíci

    I smell so astute.. amongst me-self. *scoffs at transistors & lawnmowers*

  • @dimebagtribute
    @dimebagtribute Před 10 měsíci

    8K for a kit badly built?! What a shame... The guy who made it should have a f*cking ego problem!

  • @Bob-ir2bj
    @Bob-ir2bj Před 10 měsíci

    Positive? I'm positive anyone with 8k to throw at this joke has gotten ripped off.

  • @TonePriest
    @TonePriest Před 10 měsíci +1

    8,000 AUD converts to 5150 USD.

  • @keiranbradley3238
    @keiranbradley3238 Před 5 měsíci

    I think it's simple why these have a great reputation.
    The reputation is given by the "celebrity guitarists" whose amps have had special care and attention to make sure theirs is exceptional.
    That's where all the time goes at "lazy j" because the rest look like cookie cutter kits churned out for maximum profit!.
    Very sad indeed.

  • @curtiseverett1671
    @curtiseverett1671 Před 10 měsíci

    80 dollars US

  • @brucehayes7251
    @brucehayes7251 Před 10 měsíci

    And you get what you pay for? Mick and Dan from That pedal show rave about theirs, horrifying if that's what you could expect.

  • @johnbriggs3916
    @johnbriggs3916 Před 10 měsíci

    A Tweed Deluxe isn't really like any Princeton. The Tweed Princeton was single-ended -- it was really a Champ with a tone control. The Brownface Princeton added a second 6V6 and the tremolo circuit, but still only had one channel. The Tweed Deluxe had two channels, but a shared tone control. So the tone of the channel you were using was affected by the volume setting of the channel you weren't!

    • @PsionicAudio
      @PsionicAudio Před 10 měsíci +3

      Brad knows that, and that wasn’t his point.

    • @shckltnebay
      @shckltnebay Před 10 měsíci

      Tweed Deluxe didnt have tremolo or reverb either!!!!!

    • @johnbriggs3916
      @johnbriggs3916 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@PsionicAudio As he actually said "If you want all that stuff, go get a Princeton Reverb: it's essentially a Deluxe plus that shit", his point is not that obvious. "Essentially" may not be the mot juste 😅

  • @TunedupFlat
    @TunedupFlat Před 10 měsíci

    Quite the rats nest going on there. Random wire snaked outside the chassis, and others snaked in the back. I guess a person doesn't get much for 8 grand these days....

  • @riley0187
    @riley0187 Před 10 měsíci +1

    what the customer doesnt see is the 2 hours squinting through hammond data sheets trying to find right transformer....absolute nightmare finding correct spec and size for that....

  • @musterionsurly
    @musterionsurly Před 10 měsíci

    The clue was in the name haha they could have called it the lazy 8k

  • @IL2TXGunslinger
    @IL2TXGunslinger Před 10 měsíci +1

    I cringed as soon as I realized they’d used 6L6’s - almost puked when I saw the 6L6 on the speaker.

  • @mistermac56
    @mistermac56 Před 10 měsíci

    Sloppy build. There is an old saying, would you like seven shiny pennies or an old tarnished quarter? For the amount spent on this amp, a person could purchase a couple of professionally restored vintage Fender Princeton tweed amps or a modern design amp or two from a reputable manufacturer.

  • @cvdevol
    @cvdevol Před 10 měsíci

    4000 US dollars for this? Are they kidding?

    • @HandWiredAmps
      @HandWiredAmps Před 10 měsíci

      Over $5000 right now and soon to be even with AU.

  • @Jesuswinsbirdofmichigan
    @Jesuswinsbirdofmichigan Před 10 měsíci

    #138_comment. Nov.-12-2023. 😳I had to make this my 1st visit to this channel, watt hey wakeup⚠️. Ewe half my sympathy. I guess?

  • @Splattle101
    @Splattle101 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Sorry, being positive: nice speaker.

    • @BradsGuitarGarage
      @BradsGuitarGarage  Před 10 měsíci +1

      And under-rated for the amp, but okay if it doesn't get pushed, I guess.

    • @Splattle101
      @Splattle101 Před 10 měsíci

      @@BradsGuitarGarage I confess I have a Lorantz greenback clone in my homebrewed 5E3 clone. Reckon I might even have the same chassis! Looks like crap, just like this one.

  • @-doggy-6670
    @-doggy-6670 Před 10 měsíci

    A friend of mine has one,its ten years old.Seems to be a much better build than this one.....maybe Brexit costs had played a factor into the final price tag.....

    • @BradsGuitarGarage
      @BradsGuitarGarage  Před 10 měsíci

      To be fair, out exchange rate is dogshit at the moment, so that's a factor in the local price anyway. But still, pretty over the top for what you get!

    • @-doggy-6670
      @-doggy-6670 Před 10 měsíci

      @@BradsGuitarGarage If I remember,when they first came out all the big guns like Jeff Beck,Pete Townsend,Clapton and Richard's had them....maybe the amps were better back then👍👍

  • @kencreten7308
    @kencreten7308 Před 10 měsíci

    Is any $8000 guitar amp worth it? Hell no. I have a Kemper.

  • @danielmargolis3210
    @danielmargolis3210 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Ridiculous.

  • @Jesuswinsbirdofmichigan
    @Jesuswinsbirdofmichigan Před 10 měsíci

    You deserve my subscription! Wish I could help, would a prayer be enough?✝️

  • @PaulMcCaffreyfmac
    @PaulMcCaffreyfmac Před 6 měsíci

    Lots of fake Js around. People fake desirable things.

  • @fiddlix
    @fiddlix Před 10 měsíci

    A half baked idea with an execution that never made it to the oven imho..what a pile of garbage. It looks like they wired it up with stranded wire from Radio Shack. Lmfao..!

  • @JEmilioJNava
    @JEmilioJNava Před 10 měsíci

    it sucks ... essentially

  • @livekaos
    @livekaos Před 10 měsíci

    That is a pretty bad example of electronics assembly

  • @Mark_Ocain
    @Mark_Ocain Před 10 měsíci

    8 grand for an amp???...did hear right? This screams ripoff

  • @ColeWheeler4Lyfe
    @ColeWheeler4Lyfe Před 10 měsíci

    😂 $8k