Fever, Fluids, Food in acute infections
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- Thank you so much Stephen for this fascinating insight into your work and research,
Stephen A Hoption Cann PhD
Clinical Professor, School of Population & Public Health
Faculty of Medicine | University of British Columbia
261-2206 East Mall | Vancouver BCHere is the fever article
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Here is an article on William Coley and
Fever therapy for cancer
pmj.bmj.com/content/79/938/67... could a cardinal sign of COVID-19 infection reduce mortality?
www.amjmedsci.org/article/S00...
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To concur with the doctor: my 1.5yr old son had a pneumonia, while we were in Rome. He was admitted to the hospital, ran by church. He had very high temps, unresponsive to anything around him. To my amazement they put him in very warm room (+24-+25 C) and he was wearing very light gown. No aspirin or any other drugs to lower his fever, no food or drinks, until he asked for them (about 48 hrs). First they gave him small amounts of water. Only after 3 days he saw his first meal- chicken soup. He was also injected with B12 daily. Within a week my son got much better and was able to travel back to the USA after 3 weeks. I will be forever grateful to that hospital for saving my son’s life.
Aspirin is not for children anyway.
When our children had fevers when young we also let it run, no infa t paracetemol etc. People said 'you can't do that!' but we kept a close eye on them and let the fever do it's thing. I remember my son being quite red and hot to touch but he recovered so quickly and both of them seem to have very strong immune systems ompared to their leers and cousins.
The pharmaceutical industry has done a brilliant job at convincing us that we need to take drugs for every and all mental and physical health issues. So wrong on so many levels.
Wow, I had no idea they were ahead of the rest!
@@DawnMarieMcMillan yeah a friend of mine is a provider and her boss is on her for not prescribing more anti depressants.
When i was little my mother never gave us drugs when we were poorly. Just a few spoonfuls of salty oxtail soup.
Now when im Dr. Johns age, i always think of my mum and the oxtail soup when i get poorly.
I miss my mum, the oxtail soup not so much.
I imagine the ox doesn't feel that keen on it either! 😂
@@KatieM786 lol very true
@@chelseamaniac6015 Same here. No mercy mister mum! :)
Yes, rest. I have had several high fevers. Wait. It goes.
my mum swore by chicken soup, always works for me and there is some scientific proof now too
When my husband is unwell and has a temperature he goes to bed refuses all paracetamol etc wraps himself in the duvet sweats profusely drinks nothing other than one glass of water which as an ex nurse worries me but every time he recovers completely in 24 hours. He is 80!! Has survived all sorts including rheumatic fever as a child. Amazing!
that's how I dealt with the Delta variant early last year. It took me 3 days and more than 1 glass of water, but its the sweating that works so well. I just wore lots of warm clothes, had the heater on full in a small bedroom and slept as much as possible, or rested in bed if I was awake. I went through tons of washing, and I felt like shit, but I'm still here, never went to hospital, 45 years old, still unvaxed and now surging with natural immunity. Haven't had any symptomatic infections since and Omicron is prolific in Australia now.
I thought it was common knowledge that you should just let the body take care of it when it comes to viral infections, and not interfere with the immune response. It's what we inherently want to do anyway (lack of appetite leads to not eating, fever leads us to feeling cold and curl up in bed and sweat the toxins out more effectively), there might even be some inherited behaviour. When you interfere you will get complications in the long run. I'm not saying that our bodies are infailibile, but there's a hell of a lot of complex machinery inside ourselves that generally works.
@@PaulSpades Exactly. Im amazed hearing MD ignorance all the time even though I respect DrJ. They are indoctrinated by big pharma which controls curricula. Sad. Profit over people is a religion.
Interesting. As an immunologist I knew this info. Also my grand/mother and average naturopath knew it. This is what happens when physicians are taught exclusively Rockefeller's medicine. It takes physicians many years of observations to depart from dogma they were taught in medical schools.
Then if their lucky and haven't killed to many people they will make pretty decent Doctors!
Thank you for expressing this powerful truth, so much of ancient and traditional healing methods have been demonised since and because of the advent of Rockefeller,s medicine.
What fluids then, Gatorade?? What commercially has electrolytes. And how about salt tablets .
@@Terri_Hugs" They're " not possessive.. Pardon but that is done too often. And You're right. My Grandfather was a Kentucky Hillbilly Doc. He ended up doing air force and cancer research.
Dr. Henry Lilly Begley
Dry hill KY. RIP
FREEDOM.. He put His life on the line for us or USA.
AMA had a lot to do with this as well. I am medic advanced and neuro psychic tech Army and I was Taught same Bad.
As a child I was rarely ill. One time I remember I was sick in bed with a fever. My dad came in to ask how I was doing, I told him I didn’t feel good. He checked my head and said you have a fever, you’re gonna have to sweat it out. I stayed in bed, no drugs, the next morning I was fine. Then as a new mother I read the book by Robert S Mendelsohn “ how to raise a healthy child in spite of your doctor”, and Dr. Mendelson said the same thing! I went on to raise seven children without a thermometer or Tylenol and they’re all fine👍
Quite active then 👍🏻
Anything over 103 you should bring back to 103. Otherwise you can get brain problems. But let it run at 103 or lower.
What about dehydraration?
@@madelinepettingill4702 , ÁGUA!!!! Ela falou sem drogas e sem termômetro...
Sounds good and bet right most the time
My brother now 30 fit as ox when 4 or so have seizures freaked everyone out. Doc said cause he over heated they gave him cold baths till temp in safe range what ever that is
I am a doctor in Indonesia, I frequently tell my patients not to take paracetamol, let the fever which is a natural response to a bacterial or viral infection, help the body to get rid of the infection. Usually they don't listen to me. I haven't thought about fluid and food until I watch this video. Thank you, John.
You’re a very wise doctor!!!💘
In America, we do not treat low-grade fevers. BUT please ask a nurse before withholding fluid. It can be very difficult to start an IV in febrile patients because they do become very dehydrated. Also, fevers burn calories and often patients haven't eaten for days because they didn't have the energy to get up and eat. We have to replace those calories and keep an eye out for hypoglycemia related to lack of eating.
Hi.i used to get the common cold when I lived in Canada. I think its natural to reboot your body like your phone when it's full of garbage. Let the cold and nature reboot you. Don't run to the drugstore, let your body do its thing. Its way smarter than you.
Yeah... I know it's better not to take it but damn...I feel better and then I can take better care of myself. So personally even though it's technically not good for you, I end up with way better resultsif I take the Tylenol and fluids. I frankly think they are wrong about the fluids, many times I'm so so sick until I drink a bunch of water and then I fight it off. If I don't drink the water I get hospital level sick. And the same for my family. I've broken fevers in my daughter many times if I get the water into her early, and my older kids, boyfriend, nieces etc.
Interesting - this is a community from all over the world.
I was one of 8 children in our family in the 1940s. When we had a fever our parents would wrap us up, put us in bed with a hot water bottle and let us sweat the fever out. By morning we would be well again.
Fear stops people from letting the fever take it's course. Everyone wants a quick fix.
Excellent video. Everyone should see this.
More likely jobs stop ppl from letting fever take its course these days lol
I agree. I might live longer and healthier because of this video. So thankful!
I think you are so right there but when we learn to trust our body we realise it’s intelligent.
Just coming out the other side of covid. Didn’t want to eat or drink. I managed sips of water or tea but literally sips.
Then after three days I woke up and craved a cup of tea which I thoroughly enjoyed. I thought I could manage a second one soon after but no! One was enough two wasn’t accepted.
When I was a child a long time ago living on a farm in the heart of the country we had a saying that when the fever break we would start getting better. We were given a hot water bottle and wrapped up to keep us warm and lots of sympathy But No drugs of any sort.....we all made it through...How did they know what was instinctively there right thing to do all those years ago...THIS IS GOOD ADVICE...THANK YOU BOTH
Practically speaking they didn’t have drug stores, Tylenol or Ibuprofen which was mostly a good thing
Sympathy and Love is very healing too. A Mother’s Instinct is a Powerful Thing.
And being on a farm you probably also had lovely heartwarming chicken soups and broths.
@@CMoore8539 alot has been cured by mother love.
We use the "starve a fever, feed a cold" regimen whenever we feel sick.
WOW , According to Ayurveda( the ancient Indian medicine system) first treatment of Jwara ( Fever ) is Langhan ( fasting ). thank you doctor Campbell sir.
Excellent observation! Thanks
@@ashtavakra70 Technically yes.. I'd assume the Ayurveda docs saw a similar correlation. The downside is that a fever puts a heck of alot of stress on the body.. I don't know enough to know when running a high fever is still a good thing though.
@@CaptApril123 in my country it is general advice not to decrees temperature if it's no higher that 38 or 38,5 degrees.
Having had Covid (twice), and no Vaccine, I can definitely say (based on my personal experience) that the Guest Doctor is spot on.
How long did it take for you to catch it a second time? If you don't mind me asking
His advice is spot on , myself and my husband who is type 1 we both did this and we recovered from covid really well , 6days and we were done .
Flu**
Finally. It's good to hear someone who explains so well the physiology if our body defense processes. It would be so nice if more people would know this and stop reducing children's fever so they recover faster.
I'm a veterinary professional and I'm so glad that human clinicians are finally looking at the animal kingdom to learn from them
If "onehealth" was embraced by more in the human medical world there would have been more consultation with veterinarians. We are trained and experienced in biosecurity and out breaks.
I grew up on a farm and like most farms we did our own vetting 95% of the time & also picked up a lot from our local vet(wonderful family). A lot of the practical mammal practices are just not embraced by people doctors.
I always wondered why we don’t follow exactly what animals do to heal.
@@Reality_C Because we've been taught to not trust the good sense God gave most of us.
Even right now I'm fighting covid and I think I'm doing OK despite some chronic matters because I followed my intuition on my issues in the first days.
@@ambilaevus7607 hope you are feeling better, 6 days later. Did you take ivm to get through the virus?
Just curious how "vet-minded" people are treating themselves & their families.
This is amazing, I had Covid a while back and had the chills so badly no amount of clothing or blankets would warm me up. I finally jumped in a very warm shower and it felt amazing. I stayed in for maybe 10 minutes then dried off and put warm pajamas on and got back into bed I was finally warm enough to be comfortable again. I thought about how a warm shower was contrary to what conventional medicine would have told me but it ended up being exactly what I needed. I am learning more and more to trust my body, it knows what it needs and will always fight for my survival.
I wonder if I had covid. A few weeks ago I had a day of shivering like ice. Has to have hot water bottle and clothes on in bed. In the evening I felt a bit better then suddenly got dizzy and practically fell downstairs, bashed into a, wall. I lay down as that's all I could do. I went to sleep and was fine the next day. I didn't do a test so won't ever know!
Trusting your body is anti science I hope you can reconsider
@@bobsinger7127 are you serious?
@@Kittypig22
You can still test. Antibodies show up in a blood test. That's how I got confirmation that I had had Covid-19 even though a 'mild' case.
@@Kittypig22 Only one day???
I had a really bad case of Omicron and did NOT treat my fever. I believe in allowing the body to do what it needs to do. I had a fever for 10 days and it was very uncomfortable, but I trusted my body.
Dr. Campbell and Dr. Steven/ Stephen. Thank you. Throughout this period of the pandemic. Dr Campbell has been and continues to be extremely relevant to me and my family and to millions of others I believe.
Isn’t it amazing that finally people have started to listen to the body! I’ve never believed we should cool a child off or take paracetamol. When I’m ill I keep a drink of lemon water on the bedside table or drink tea. With some illnesses you want hot drink and other times cooler drinks. Also there is a day or two when you fancy salty foods when you want to eat. I’m now in my 60s and my eldest child is in her 40s and I’ve always allowed the body to dictate the treatment. Warm up when you need to and cool off when you need to don’t force the opposite of what it is asking for. This is great advice.
My son's pediatrician was doing this 20 years or more ago. Let the fever run its course unless it gets to 103 or 104. This is not a new thing.
But I would definitely be cautious about taking the water withholding suggestions. Drink whenever you are thirsty. Dehydration can create a cascade of unpredictable medically dangerous situations.
So unless you’re going to stay up all night to keep checking to make sure their high temperature doesn’t turn dangerous, then a child does need Tylenol to keep their temperature down and be safe.
The best 50 mins of my life. My wife is in the middle of cv infection at the moment. She was being sick and headaches and drinking loads and loads. Now I know why. I had an heated discussion with her trying to get her to avoid paracetamol. This was 2 hours befor this vid come out. Just need her to watch this now.
Get her to take a lot of vitamin C, her body is burning through it and she'll do better with a lot extra, at least 10,000 mgs divided throughout the day.
I hope she is feeling better now.
@@snowbird6855 thankyou will do that. We both had it and been following good dr here since start. Lots of good advise.. we both taking vit d since last year . I got through with nothing but a runny nose for an evening but the wife was taking paracetamol from the start .looks like the info above is good info. We stopping the anti pyretics.
@@2lynnw thankyou. With advise like above think we can turn the corner
How is she doing today?
This is very interesting. As you were speaking, I thought of how my mother told me about my dad having a bad malaria attack. She wasn't able to get his medicine so he had to go through the fever on his own. That was the last time he ever had an attack. Then as you were talking, the subject of malaria came up. So this segment of your show has convinced me that the doctor is on the right track. It all makes sense to me. Thank you for this discussion.
I witnessed this when my family and I contracted delta. My doctor said "take paracetamol and go to bed" so I took regular doses of paracetamol to the extent of panicking when the effects began to ware off. My daughters boyfriend fell seriously ill at the same time but on the 3rd day he was over it and went out for a cycle ride. It was unbelievable. He wasn't vaccinated, he didn't take any medicine, he literally went to bed, rollup in a duvet and sweated for 2 days. The rest of us were still suffering with chronic fatigue and flu symptoms 2 weeks later.
Also he was younger than you.
Getting in the sun also has great benefits
@@ms-jl6dl keep your mask and tv on for the latest propaganda updates.
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@@reenamola2162 ❤❤🤫🤣🤣🤣
Thanks, Doc. Very helpful interview. Some day, long after this is all over, some of us will be talking of the "good old days" during the pandemic of listening to Dr. Campbell! Kudos.
Yes...we will!😊
@Silver Tea You will be fine and this will all be over with Soon!
@@CMoore8539 ... Oh, you optimist, you. One could only hope, but keep your mask handy. The Omicron virus can still mutate.
What has happened to India.?everyone was dying from coved ,we saw horrible pictures of people fighting to get treatment in the hospitals and the death rates were very high .now India’s death rate seems to be very low ,how did they happen?
Yes!😁
I wish the doctors we hear from every day would give us this information
Thank-you for this interview
These doctors just need more of a platform. To reach more ears!
One of the best 45 min investments ever. Lying in bed with flu and a temperature and now feel reassured it’s helping me not harming me. Thanks both of you!
When I had Typhoid fever it shot up to 105 F. Fortunately, I was allergic to antibiotics and the doctors did not know what was wrong because usually in Oregon people don't get that disease. So my body healed naturally. Many years later, when I was in Bali, my companion got Typhoid and the doctor advised me to leave him or I might die but I stayed to nurse him and I didn't get sick because I had already overcome it nearly 25 years earlier and my immune system recognised it and protected me from reinfection.
I applaud you! God it's great and works on his mysterious ways!
Well since your allergic to the antibiotics they probably were working and that was the cause of the spike in fever
Sounds like my old granny was right. Keep warm, rest and wait for the fever to burn itself out.
@@adrianh332 Sandra Westley and you are Professor of which medication area. There has always been a saying feed a cold starve a fever. That was from my mother 70 yrs ago
@@adrianh332 they used to think that removing a section of brain was absolutely the way to go...
Have a bottle of whiskey
@@atlasnetwork7855 seriously, people know what to, what is a peer review paper going to do when your sick.
@@adrianh332 Unless it is a child with a history of febrile seizure, or an elderly or immunocompromised patient, then a fever can make the body an inhospitable host to pathogens, so is worth the discomfort. If it gets very high, bringing it down a couple of degrees will be plenty.
I’ve been dealing with a covid infection for the last two days. I tried this technique and had my fever break last night. It was a rough night but I feel much better today.
That's great. But realize that the same time course happens in most CV19 cases, regardless.
@nigwasme You must have missed the fever part. The fever is there to increase the body temp to weaken the virus or bacteria, Both have optimal temps to replicate and infect so the fever is the response to the immune assessment by the body. My doc prescribed 3 meds and 2 supplements to hit my covid infection. None were for fever. I've had one rough day, since then some fever up and down. For me the hospital is last resort. Why immerse yourself in a haven of sickness for a mortality rate of 0.1% ?
Prayers healing
@nigwasme You must have missed the part where this doctor explains that the fever is in itself the cure for killing the virus. Listen again to the first two minutes, where he says "With a high fever, why turn it off, when it's trying to fight the infection" He's very clear on not following the narrative that you accuse him of. I believe you're not paying attention much.
@nigwasme watch it again dum dum
It has also been shown that in the late stages of terminal illness, providing nutrition and fluid support can result in a return of symptoms, adding to patient distress
As someone very much into herbalism this is common knowledge. Nice to see the medical profession catching up at last 😉.
Yep ! I never suppressed fevers in me or my son .I always always make sure keep eye on it once doesn’t hit 40+ I never panic - body needs fever to kill pathogens! We must not fear the fever. Been doing this for 7 years now with my son and never been hospitalised!
Absolutely, please tell that to the NHS. My cousin who was in Blackpool Victoria Hospital had been given saline for days, when I visited her she was bloated, she had oedema of the lower abdomen and legs and when I checked her fluid chart her intake over the previous 2 or so days was 3 litres more than output. Needless to say I made sure the drip was immediately removed.
The same happened to my Aunt. She had a drip up, was on steroids which retains water in the body and was told to drink lots of water. Her catheter was empty! Being a nurse I kicked off big time and immediately they took the drip down and removed the water. Too late, she died 2 days later! She literally drowned from too much fluid in her lungs.
@@susan9188 Hi I am so sorry to hear this...tragic treatment! Sounds like some so called treatments have been reckless in fear and wonder what the people at 111 were/are saying! Still being here, hopefully we are learning so we can help our own if they get this virus. My best wishes to you and thank you for sharing your experience.
Gosh..thank you for sharing your experience. Fluid balance is so vital!
That is neglect - so lucky you spotted it!
They should have measured input and output.
I admire you for your open mind, Dr. John! To be willing to change your opinion after 30 years tells me you have bravery to face new information for the sake of saving lives! ILuvYou! Bravery is what hero's are made of.
Fantastic epic, got covid yesterday and i got the advice from a doctor to take anti fever drugs and loads of fluid intake, i have never believed in pain killer such as ibuprofen and seeing this really brought it home, my fever raged all day yesterday and in the night, now it’s morning and it’s coming down, thank you dr. We need more people like you out there
This was fascinating, indeed! Dr. Campbell made sure to cover every angle in his line of questioning. Well done. Thank you for this, gentlemen.
i was an early avid follower, rewatching clips a few times to absorb everything; then dropped off with my mental fatigue - but sitting here watching this as i pop some tasty vitamin c/d chewables in my mouth, i'm reminded about this rarely discussed concept of letting the fever do its job, and i'm reminded how deeply valuable your work has been ... many blessings, rachel from canada xxx
I am grateful for this information by the doctors; I am truly enlightened. Thank you both!
I am blessed to have a humble and teachable doctor. She has told me “medicine is an art as well as a science”, and has often told me to feel free to do my own research and look at all health care options. I believe that she has realized how often the current science is still lacking.
That’s a rare thing these days. You are very lucky to have found a switched on GP like yours. Sadly they are few and far between.
wow i have now more respect and trust in you dr Campbell for your ability to accept error much more in public. I wish every doctor were like you.
This is exactly what Nature Cure has been saying for almost 100 years. I have been practising this for 70 years....
I have been intermittent fasting for 2 yrs. Emptying my stomach on a regular basis has been the best thing that I've ever done for myself. I'm 65, rheumatoid arthritis, spinal stenosis, cholesterol, bp etc. Changed everything! Thank you both.🙏
Hi Susan, how often do you fast and for how long?
@@alankelly3546 I have more energy in the evening, so I usually don't eat until around 4:30 pm. I do 16/8. It is very odd. Once your stomach gets used to it, you really are not hungry. I give myself an 8 hr period to eat which is pretty late. I never eat past 8 or so. I'm satisfied. I eat what I want. I also try to keep in mind that I am what I eat.😊
@@mayabreathe If you are not eating past 8 does that mean you are on a 20/4?
Regarding your arthritis improvement did you also change your diet?
Thanks for sharing your experience.
@@alankelly3546 SUGAR! It's poison. I cheat but never bring it home. As far as the amount of time that I eat. I'm just not hungry. I feel so much better when my stomach is never crammed full. I'm 65. I don't think that I'll be getting any younger😊I've lost 40 lbs since I started. That in and of itself made my health better. The difference is that, it's no big deal. Full stomach? Happy. Namaskram🙏
@@mayabreathe Thanks for the information.
Fantastic interview some great points our immune system is well advanced trust your immune system a fever is there to protect you to make it difficult for a virus to spread and make the environment hostile in the early stage of infection best wishes from Glasgow scotland
I think having a strong immune system helps, I eat loads of chilli and garlic and I rarely get any flu or colds
@CommandoVault Hygiene, Clean drinking water, Vaccines, Antibiotics, Surgical interventions, Anaesthetics, Therapeutics, Knowledge of toxins Etc. Febrile response is an aid to recovery, not a guarantee of survival.
@@matthewsmith2787 Garlic is very good for you! It cleans the blood too.
@CommandoVault That’s a very good question!!!
This would never make it to a media program, but so grateful to have seen it, and appreciate it thanks to my own hospital experience where I was seen as a difficult patient for not eating and refusing ice treatment for 41 degree temps over a 6 week stay.
This is probably the best medical advice I have heard in 30 years. When I was a child, if I got chills, my Mother covered me.
I was going to say the same as Bob Preston, i was always told by both mum and my gran to feed a cold and starve a fever. Can’t believe medical practitioners have forgotten that! Makes me wonder What other good advice our gran parents knew have been forgotten!
misinterpreted ! so dont feed a cold as he explains...or you might end up with a fever
Sadly, our medical practitioners (mostly) have been taught information that simply goes against scientific evidence and good old common sense, ultimately due to financial interests either by pharmaceutical company financial inducements, or flawed science bastardised in the name of maintaining profits in one way or another !
But at what temperature should medicine be given? 103 degrees? I mean God forbid it gets so high that death occurs.
Yes, but I also grew up with ice baths for high fevers.... in the hospital! (Well, they did it to my mom in those days). Used to always wipe us down with ice water cloths. Brrrrr.....!
Dee Wilson Dangerously high temperature is the time to lower it is what I was taught. Sit out as much of the temperature as one can especially early
how can we be so ignorant about fever and fluids when we get sick!!!
THANK YOU DR CAMPBELL!!!!!! This interview gave more lifesaving information🙌🏼
Great interview. We Natural Hygiene physicians have known, have been practicing and have been talking about these basic physiological facts since the mid 1850s. Nice to see medics finally catching up a little bit. Would be nice to humbly recognize that naturalistic physicians have known about facts such as these for many decades.
The best video ever about illness it just makes sense. We were given a body that does know how to heal itself.
We need to listen to our bodies response.
Thank you.
As a doctor you have helped me realise I’ve had it completely wrong.
I always understood that fever is an adverse effect of infection (caused by the effects of toxins on our pyrogens), rather than a beneficial tool in the body’s mechanisms of creating a hostile environment for the viruses, and enhancing the immune response.
Secondly the general advice to drink lots of fluids and hot toddies for a cold is probably not right either.
I’m discarding all my paracetamol. Better just to keep warm till the fever breaks spontaneously, and in the absence of diarrhoea or vomiting, drink only when thirsty or the urine gets darker (indicating dehydration)
Thank you so much for dispelling the old misleading habits.
It’s all relative. Fever can get “out of hand” and can become life-threatening. Same goes for the immune system. The art of medicine is to carefully observe and take the right measures at the right time. Each case is unique like people are.
Amen, brother.
@AAH Replies really? Great word, though.
This is true I think - but how the NHS and GPs hand out paracetamol so readily can more often be counterproductive.
Is one reason the fever "gets out of hand" poor treatment in the the early stages?
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Awesome presentation. I am so glad that someone has finally come to teach us that we should listen to the human body which is packed wilt millions of mechanisms and biological means to rejuvenate , fight diseases and some times just relaxed and making thoughts. Thank you.
This is so ground breaking. Thanks Doctors.
When I had a severe bout of pneumonia/sepsis, I lost an incredible 19 lbs. while being intubated for 12 days. They tried to tube-feed me, I was told (I was in an induced coma and don’t remember anything), but I just vomited it all up immediately, my body didn’t want it. The weight loss during an acute illness is natural, temporary and nothing to worry about in otherwise healthy, normal weight or overweight (60% of people here in the US) patients. I suppose if someone is emaciated from chronic disease before the infection, it could be a concern. I think there is just a natural tendency to do something, when in fact, the best course is to do nothing and let the body do what it needs to do.
I'm sooo worried about my weight!! I'm 5'8" and down to 114!! I'm a cancer patient also.
Been sick for awhile now- since xmas nite. Was in a bad wreck on Sunday- so everything hurt already!! But today I have bad headache and pain generally all over!! Haven't eaten much in 2-3 days. Finally gave up and eating popsicles!!!
Sorry 4 complaining- just wonder if others have the same thing. 🙏❤✌
@@kerirae4777 I hope you are feeling better . 🙏🏼
@@kerirae4777 Keri. . I was there once, and I needed B complex in order to absorb nutrients. Think nutrition not just weight. Think intestinal care. I used wheat germ, brewers yeast, prunes to feed the good bacteria, eggs and other proteins, yogurt, granola, minimum 1 T quality oil. fresh fruit. Something like that. Lot of acquired taste stuff… supplements from health food store can help, but I believe real food is better balanced. Sugar is a toxin, so if lethargic might want to limit sugar. Oils are calorie dense too. Best wishes! Don’t give up!
Kimberly Perrotis- TY Sooo much! Been thru a year from hell- cancer got me.
Just finished chemo , had one round of maintenance.
They DO NOT care about nutrition- NONE OF THE DRS!!
My problem is I CAN'T eat. Get down 2 bites and CAN'T swallow!!
I live in the extreme north so not many choices up here- no health food store and only a few grocery stores. No farmers
Market till summer!! Can't even buy organic RN!!
I think they'll TUBE feed me now- something I fought off all year!! I look like a skeleton!!
Ty for your time! May god bless and keep you safe🙏🙏🙏❤
@@billiewilson4135 thank you.
Fascinating! I was once staying in a hotel, after a workday, when I developed a fever in the evening, it came on very suddenly and I was alone, so I had no opportunity to take any medication. It was a bad enough fever that I was unable to function or to seek help - of course, I have no idea what my temperature was, but I was fully clothed - in the summer - and just managed to crawl into the bed, because I was feeling absolutely "Frozen." I had been feeling completely ok 20 minutes before. it started at about 6:00pm.
I woke up, soaked in sweat, at 10:55pm feeling much better and thirsty - I made it to the hotel bar and got myself a pint of orange juice. Once I had finished that I returned to bed (I was quite exhausted) and slept soundly and went to work the next day with no symptoms at all.
(I should mention that this was more than 20 years ago, so Not covid! :) )
Wow, how miserable to be all alone. Guess it worked! Great story.
If you had eaten (prior to your symptoms appearing) it is very possible you had food poisoning.
What a truly fascinating conversation! I learned so much that I'll use the rest of my life for myself and my family whenever my wife and children may get sick in the future. Too bad the video got cut off at the end.
That discussion was absolutely wonderful. Thank you so much Doctors
"Little knowledge is a dangerous thing", comes to mind.
This video raised my knowledge and the explanations makes perfect sense.
Yes, people have interpreted wisdom sayings to suit their own needs perhaps. Maybe they had a deli and a lot of people with colds... people ALWAYS do that when they are passing on information through a communication channel. It morphs somehow to meet their own needs rather than preserve the precious, and life-giving truth! Somehow the truth is just not quite good enough for them.
I guess you must be at least twice as dangerous now. LoL
@@marcosross790 Not me or him.. You misinterpreted!! LOL! Sorry, but you are a case in point, Marcos. Your kind are dangerous. Switching information around to suit your self and your kind.
@@CynthiaSchoenbauer Thank you Kitty. Your frustration has been noted. And I am happy enough to know someone is taking my humour so seriously.
I thought the saying was “A little knowledge is a dangerous thing”.
had CV for 9 days last year. I only reacted the way I felt. Ive never believe in anti-fever drugs. I didnt feel like eating at all, so I didnt eat for 9 days, but I was thirsty and always had a bottle on my night stand. ive done many fasts and I wanted to spare my body from the requirements of digestion. After 9 days I was suddenly all better and was shocked to see my house exactly where left things.
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i think that was best thing you could have done, fasting has reserved your energy for the healing process. Hope you are fully recovered and well done, smart move. Animals stop eating when they are sick, nature tells us that.
Yes same with me .. when I tried to take a sip of broth .. my body could not take it .. so I stopped. Sips of water after week and a half .. felt better Husband was worse , gave him antibodies etc .. was quiet ill 😩 So I threw the drugs out .. and slowly he felt better .. but had Hospital appointment .. x-ray came up as puemonia and blood clot .. had to take tablets for 3months .. no explanation or anything .. just said it was the covid .. 🤦🤷
Good on you John for taking a much stronger stance in this video. I commend you for calling out those responsible for what they are.
Many years ago I learnt about the importance of body temperature during infection but never realised about ‘starving’ the infection from food and liquids. Funnily enough I always suspected it but the professionals always say keep the fluids up. Now we know the evidence. Thank you John.
A number of years ago I came home early with a shaking fever. My wife ran a hot bath & I was still cold, went to bed with 3 douv'es/quilts/doona's & still shaking with cold. Did NOT take any medication, within 12 hrs I was up, feeling a little weak, but otherwise ok.
From Somalia ..... I appreciate you doctor Campbell
The same from Poland!
And USA...
And Namibia! 🙏🏻
from India
@@iry40 and from Wales.
I heard this info 30 years ago. (I am not in the medical field). So sad that most doctors haven't figured it out.
I read somewhere, I can't for the life of me where, back in the 80's that fever was the body's way of fighting an infection and I haven't treated mine or my child's fever with anti-pyretics, (spelling?) since then. When I would tell other mothers they'd just look at me with horror and treat away. I'm so happy that I came across this video! Dearest doctor Campbell, please do another such video. It's insane the medical establishment has not taken the time to get this simple message out.
In February 2021 I was diagnosed with c19...It took me 2 and a half months to recover. I am 62 and over weight. What I can add to this info is that I ran a fever for 10 days. I lost 15 lbs in 2 weeks. I could not eat or drink. I drank just enough to keep me alive. I may have drank about a cup of fluid a day and went days without eating. I did become dehydrated. I finally caved in and went into the hospital on April 1 2021. They got my fluid levels back up and I finally began eating at this time. I wonder if my not drinking much or eating for 2 to 3 weeks helped me recover? I did come home on oxygen for 2 weeks .Side note...I feel better now than I have in years. Looking back on it I lost 2 and half mo ths but am glad I fought and won that battle.
i am 69 did my home work long before i got covid,,had ivermectin on hand and it knocked the stuffins out of it,,i was fine in 5 days,,my niece went into a hospital in olympia wa,and they gave her ivermectin and sent her home in 3 days
If i may ask what were your worst symptoms and did they last the entire duration or did the return multiple times?
I'm just getting over a 17 day bout with covid19 (presumably Omicronl). I had fatigue, and a slight cough, that went away any time my temperature was elevated above 99.0. However, my worst symptom was anxiety, paranoia and a depressive like state that set in any time my temperature was above 99.0. I can't imagine trying to get through with out something to fight the fever. I have never experienced these symptoms with an elevated temperature. I refer to it as elevated temperature because my doctors say it's not a fever until its over 100.4. I think it was a fever do to chills and sweating when it broke. My temperature was over 101 several times but much of the time it was between 99 and 100. I track my normal temperature even when I'm not sick and it is usually between 95.6 and 96.6 °f. So 99 represents almost a 3 degree increase for me.
I've had many bouts of the flu and stomach virus, and many other ailments in my 53 years, but I've never had anything with so little physical pain or discomfort and so much psychological pain or stress. Very confusing and wondering if anyone else experienced this type of symptom with covid19.
I'm not a person who has ever had any issues with anxiety or paranoia.
I had same experience. Went to hospital after being dehydrated. Weak, nauseous, and not eating for several days before I was hospitalized. 8 weeks later I am feeling better but my body is haywire. Bp hi. AFIB. AND DIABETES. STILL TIRED.
It seems clear the not eating and drinking is what landed you in hospital as opposed to helping you recover.
@@laGaenora -- That's how I read it. Perhaps the OP might amplify things.
On Monday I had the first Covid vaccination. The nurse advised me to take tablets if symptoms developed.
24 hours later my temperature was 40.7°C with other symptoms. I took your guest, Professor Stephen's advice and curled up in my waterbed under two duvets. It felt so right and so comfortable.
24 hours later my temperature is down to 36.8°C and the headache has lifted.
Thank you Dr Campbell for bringing us this fantastic information and stopping me from doing the wrong thing.
Thanks for this vital info on fever. I have always believed this and don't rush to reduce my children's fevers when they get them. Typically they would lay on the couch feeling terrible for a day and then bounce right back. Such was the case for my 9 year old who recently fought off covid. He stayed in bed all day with a fever and terrible headache. I had a hunch it was covid so I opted not to relieve the headache because it would also reduce the fever, which I didn't want to do. He was only really sick for one day and mildly sick the second day. I really believe the body is so much smarter than we give it credit for. It knows how to take care of us if only we would listen!
My mom always told me not to take a shower when I have a fever. In her time, there was only cold water running in the house. She didn't understand the reason but glad to know she was correct. She told me that she had seen quite a few people die from taking a shower while dealing with malaria. I had malaria 4 times from the age of 0 to 5, I'm glad she bundled me up even though I felt cold and hot at the same time. Unfortunately, she passed away from cancer 3 years ago and I had no idea how to help her.
I am sorry for your loss. I bet you being there was a great comfort to your mom.
I had Covid, sick as f*ck for a week and a half, stayed home and did what my body told me. Shivered and sweated when my body said, didn't eat when I had no appetite etc. My recovery was very good, sick one day better the next. This near-vertical rise out of sickness suggests to me that I probably now have good immunity. Totally agree with what Stephan said here; spare the rod spoil the child feed a cold starve a fever . . . . . very informative Dr John, thank you.
Grateful you’ve survived so well
My mom didn't eat when she had covid and passed out, when she ate she became 300% better
Yep the sweating was awful, I had sweated so much the bed was drenched, I've had it twice now the first was the worst taking me nearly a year to fully recover 😳, but im a vulnerable person so I kinda expected a rough ride, no jabs at the time of first infection and as the second bout of covid was nowhere near as bad so I didnt see the point when it's apparent my immune system is doing its job.
jthe problem is trying to get people aware of this, and changing long held beliefs, particularly when health care professionals are telling you to do the wrong thing!
HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS ARE MORONS.
@@esecallum If you ever get a tumor that needs removing you will need those health care professionals, I doubt you'll be calling them morons then will you.
Eggplant shrinks tumors, eat them often .
@@tomnicholson2115 They're humans some good others not so much. A friend has chronic illness due to damage caused by inappropriate medication he was given as a child.
@@tomnicholson2115 The objective is to avoid getting the tumour...
Interesting, as I had pneumonia 4 or 5 times in my late 30's early 40's until I drastically modified my diet to deal with my summer allergies, which always preceded it. Anyway, I learned how to get rid of it, which was piling up blankets and "sweating it out", which also included me stopping to the intake of all food for a couple of days. (though I always maintained fluid intake)
Thank you Dr Stephen and Dr Campbell for this super valuable lecture.
It makes sense that elevated body temperature might help fight the infection, but within limits. When my baby daughter's fever reached 104 degrees F (40 degrees C), she had febrile seizures which caused her to stop breathing for many seconds and pass out. That was frightening to me. Clearly the brain can't tolerate very high body temperatures. We were instructed to put her in a cold water bath to quickly bring down the temperature.
21.30 or thereabouts they discuss but i didn't really find out either
I think you were advised to put her in room temperature water .Not imerse the entire body in cold water . You can have a very bad reaction. Lukewarm water ,that is what you want . Make a deep research to see that what I am saying is corect . Be well !
I am of the pediatric opinion that it important to always intervene above 103 F and if the child is unresponsive to seek professional medical attention. In our modern world there are so many external factors that I am reluctant to take too much risk.
Not treating fever does not apply to children.
There may be long term implications for her health sadly.
When my daughter is sick I only medicate the fever if it hits 103-104 and I gauge how she's doing. Cough medicine is really only given if the cough is either really bad or if it's interrupting sleep. She beat covid in 48 hours in May and beat the flu in less than a day a few weeks ago. I let her immune system do what it was designed to do.
I agree … thank goodness she’s okay … however, if she truly had Covid and the real Flu, she still carried the virus , even though outwardly she felt fine . The Flu doesn’t leave in a days time … but it’s wonderful she is well . 🙏🏼
The steamer is good to stop coughing.
That's great, but tell us, how do you know she beat the flu in less than a day? I mean, how could you possibly know that?
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@@steveh8724 Most people call common cold flu. We only get the flu on average every 10 years. I think i only had it once i my 42 years, at least only once as a grown up.
Wish there were more channels like this so much to learn from people like this .
It’s heartening to find subscribers here, more and more people taking personal responsibility for educating themselves and not abrogating it to press and politics.
I had put a comment here but it was deleted. I t was about thanking you for this open-minded guest and talking about how encouraging it is for you to have a mission of helping people empower themselves and not have to feed the ego of others while their methods bring death instead of life. I will see if this one is deleted when I refresh the page. If it is I will post this one again and again and again.....
Hi Kitty. Glad your comment is here. Very well said. I agree! I have been watching John's videos for a year now and as you I am very glad to have met him during this desperate time. Stay well & safe. From Arizona
@@rosalieheredia513 Thank you, Rosalie!
The most disturbing thing about this (and well done John in accepting it) is that we are well into the 21st century and medical practitioners still don't know the basics of what is the correct fluid levels. This is 'spicy food irritates ulcers' territory and not the reality that they are caused by bacterial infection.
Yes, I think the offending bacteria is Heliobacter pylori
Try to give spicy food to someone with active ulcers in the stomach or the intestine and despite the origin of the disease you would see some serious cursing.
@@I_0..0_I When was the last time you heard someone complain of stomach ulcers? It used be an everyday thing. If they do get them to a doctors and they will fix them with the appropriate treatment plan. www.nhs.uk/conditions/stomach-ulcer/treatment/
@@ninaswift2167 Yes & many people are unaware of this! I had it & only knew because the person who gave it to me gave me a big wet kiss on the mouth. Then she informed me of her infection & advised me to get tested. That's frenemies for you! It was out of character for her to greet me that way so she definitely infected me intentionally. She's no friend of mine & I let her know in no uncertain terms! Two weeks later after intense antibiotics I was able to shake it but it wasn't pleasant! The metallic taste in my mouth lingered for weeks afterwards. More attention ought to be given to Helicobacter pylori infection & that it thrives in untreated rainwater! (Also this bacterium can lead to stomach cancer with long term infection!)📣📣📣📣📣📣
@@billgreen576 ...I know of a person who recently passed away from ulcers. For some they clear up and come back and are continuously under the care of a gastrointerologist. Why do you think there is a serious problem with self medicating with over the counter meds such as prilosec..prevacet etc,?
Very enlightening interview. I am NOT in the medical field but have known for a long time that unless a temperature is extremely high, this is the body's defense and don't clobber it and try to bring it down to 'normal'. Let the fever do its job. I hadn't thought about fluid and food. That was a real eye-opener.
I didn’t treat the fever when I had covid (thankfully I’d seen something online that suggested that to be a better course), however I didn’t take my temp.the fever lasted about 8 hours, and being tired from the sleepless night was the biggest thing I had to symptomatically deal with.
My Grandmother told my parents years ago not to treat fever! This was so very interesting, I'm definitely not going to treat another fever I might have. I must say I've never fancied food or drink when I've been ill. Thankyou so much for this interview, absolutely fascinating😊😊🙏🌷xxxx
should be mandatory viewing, eveywhere. Great episode John
Open, Honest and informative. My mum was @ one point deputy head matron of our local childrens hospital.
She through experience learnt to utilize whatever methodolgy worked to improve the health of the patients under her care.
What this doctor says is what my mum practiced for 40 years. In that time she worked in both ICU and long therm palliative care.
I'm watching this video whenever me or any family member is sick - it keeps me calm about the high fever
Brilliant information- I have felt these things were true for a long time now, and it is so good to get this confirmed by medical experts. Thank you SO MUCH!
Yes, in regards to the Spring fever taking care of other chronic illnesses one might be having. Last Summer my 3 yo became constipated and it was a real struggle to treat for three months!!! Then she got sick, developed a fever and after this she became regular again. Has been regular since! Our bodies are amazing.
so glad to have this confirmation. When my children were small and with fever I let them have it. They naturally rested, slept rather than when I had tried Tylenol which did take down their fever but they did not rest. I found that their sickness was shorter and in the long run they did not get evertything that came around. Here in the West we are such pill takers and do not have the patience to let our body take care of these illness which it seems capable of. Of course it takes being with and watching a sick person carefully for complications and to provide the care so person can rest. In this society we are bent on “getting back to work or afraid we’ll get fired. Our policies also do not support caregiving. We’ll have to keep working on that! Thanks for your program.
My grandmother is 82. Raised on a farm with seven siblings. None vaxxed and no thermometers or medicine other than soup and apple vinegar. They all survived and lived long lives. My grandmother fought the first round off covid like a champ and just napped and recovered in two days. My mother is 60 a heavy smoker, drinker and laid in bed with delta for a week and pulled through like a 🏆 no medical intervention.💪
Fascinating. Thanks John, if not saving lives in a hospital I'm sure you are with content like this.
A fascinating interview which makes so much sense when you think about it. Shows that the body knows best what to do, rather than us! Many thanks.
True Andrew trust your immune response best wishes from Glasgow scotland
@CommandoVault correct people are living longer with drugs and medication
Please Dr. John Campbell can you kindly upload the rest of this interview. It stops abruptly at a very interesting point. Thank you. Xxxxx You have helped me so much following 2 x Bowel Preps in under a week ( for 2× Colonoscopies), leaving my electrolytes messed up.
I then fell ill with Omicrom symptoms, (or possible heavy cold, as Lateral Flow show negative each time), and I steered clear of Paracetamol to help my immune system, and my entire system to fight this illness as best it could.
I still feel rough, but I am slowly recovering.
Thank you for all the information you regularly deliver, alongside all the evidence-based material to back up your words.
Thank you to your guests too.
Fabulous researched information.
You are a star!
Xxxxx Xxxxx
Thank you, it's been a while since I have listened to information that totally resounds with very often what our gut instinct tells us and we ignore.
I’m really wondering how many of the casualties were actually brought on by incorrect treatment or withholding certain treatments and not just the sickness in and of itself.
I honestly wonder this myself. Are Doctors withholding treatment because they don't believe the science of early treatment or are the hospitals playing politics and telling doctors not to use specific treatments because they only advocate vaccines.
@@Viper4ever05 much of it was to bring in emergency use authorisation as alternative treatments would mean they could not be used until approved
@@Viper4ever05 here in Australia a doctor prescribing ivermectin for this could face 6 months jail
I know that in the US they use these methods, and for covid they put people on respirators and it has killed far more than I believe would have died otherwise. Shameful that they don't listen to sound medical advice and just do what they've always done.
I always say go to hospital to get sicker
Thank you Dr Campbell, we have learnt so much from your discussion with Professor Stephen Hoption. So very grateful for your daily updates . Keep up the good work. Stay safe & well, Best wishes from the Isle of Man.
This makes perfect sense to me. If we listen and respond to our bodies we can't go too far wrong.
I am a senior male carer doing domiciliary care in the UK. The findings about water are very interesting. Fluid retention behind the lungs is a frequent problem with elderly people being ill. Diminished breathing will place other organs under stress having less oxygen supply, leading to more complications . Thank you doctor for this video briefing.
Understanding the function of fevers and how to treat them is essential for longterm health - thank you for highlighting this
True about starving fevers ‘depending on the cause’. I do believe there have been way too much medicine & antibiotics given, preventing our bodies to fight things off naturally.
My children’s pediatrician has long recommended that we try to let a fever run its course and not lower the fever unless the child is very miserable. I have tried to follow that advice when my children get sick, however, it is pretty hard to do when they feel awful and cannot rest. In those cases, I usually end up giving them Tylenol so they feel a bit better. But for myself, I would try to suffer through the fever as much as I could!
ya sleep is obvioulsy important to recvoery as well, and if a fever is preventing that, then some tylenol or advil might not be a bad idea
Am a student from NJALA UNIVERSITY at the PUBLIC HEALTH DEPARTMENT, u really keep motivating me in my areas of research. THANKS Dr,John Cambell
One of the best videos Dr John has produced, some really great information, especially on the fluids.
This is so interesting. I'm a retired RN. Paracetamol & fluids were always the prescribed way to bring down a temperature.
I actually agree with this doctor in a different aspect. I had sinus issues and most doctors say to drink more water to reduce the mucous to thin it out. Well, drinking more water didn't help. Did it for more than a year. So, I started not drinking extra water, and just drank water when I was thirsty. Now I don't have any sinus mucous issues! I'm not kidding. So, I don't walk around with a water bottle like I used to do. I just drink water to take my vitamins or if I'm actually thirsty. What a relief.
@Concrete Head probably so.
@Concrete Head That is nonsense. If it were true then animals would all die of thirst because they only drink when thirsty. You have not learned much from these 2 great thinkers
I had malaria and I don't remember taking a fever lowering drug. I did take a malaria treatment though. I remember not being able to read and then not being able to think normal. I guess I was becoming delirious. But then everything calmed back down and I was just so thankful to God for surviving this .
This is old Granmother wisdom. Glad to hear it here. Thank you John.