300 RUM vs 300 WBY vs 300 Norma vs 300 Win Mag
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- Comparing the ballistics of the top 30 Caliber Rifles!!!
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I think the main reason the 300 Win mag is so popular is that it is chambered in almost every rifle platform available in one way or another! Second would be availability of ammo to purchase. The last reason is recoil which the 300 Win mag has the least of the bunch. 30-378 WHBY mag is the King but is way overboard and at about 1,000 rounds or less per barrel comes at a cost other than its ammo or recoil!
I love my 300 rum, I started reloading because a box of 20 was$75-$90, it is a great elk gun.
Holy smokes that 300 Norma is Incredible!
300 Norma, beauty and performance, and becoming very popular, at least in Europe.
I had a 300 rum years ago when it first came out. Good cartridge
I'm good with my 300 Win Mag.
Keep it up WHOOT.
Yep, me too
Same here! I've taken elk, moose, caribou, feral hogs ECT with mine!
My buddy built a 300 Norma mag long range rifle a couple years ago and Berger 215 gr factory loads were clocking nearly 3200 fps on the lab radar and consistently shooting around .6 moa at 1000 yards.
I like the comments when comparing any cartridges/ calibers .
There is a lot of hype for big fast cartridges that has nothing to do with the comparison and it is a lot of fun. It is truly the American way. If you want to get impressed, go to the 378 Weatherby Magnum. Mine will shot a 270 Barnes TSX at 3,140 FPS and a 300 grain Partition at 3,000 FPS. It comes with 78 lbs of recoil. Extremely accurate at distance.
Gotta love it when they hand you a video subject.
When I use to pay attention, the 300 Norma was called a 308 Norma. Don't know if they're the same or it's a new cartridge.
It's easy to load a 300 Win Mag to over 3100 fps with 180gr bullets.
They are not. 308 Norma Mag is very close to a 300 Win Mag. 300 Norma Mag will match the 30-378.
The 300 Norma Mag was developed as the new sniper cartridge in Europe. It is an excellent round! It will push a. 215 over 3,000 FPS and a 230 over 2,950 FPS.
A video about "most powerful" is always opening a can of worms. Great stuff whotee get the conversation going!,😃
Thanks for watching!
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Who T always enjoy your videos don't worry about what's being said. I know many love watching you. Keep it up.
I've hunted with my .300 Win Mag for 34 years and it performed exceptionally every hunt. I've taken deer from 50 yards to out over 700 yards and every time the animal collapsed where it stood with only one exception, and that deer only made it 50 yards. What more can one want from a rifle cartridge? There are slight differences between the .300 Weatherby and the .300 RUM, but the way I see it you're only chasing numbers. All of them will probably get the same results, so I guess it boils to preference and ego.
300 Win Mag is a wonderful cartridge. I have owned several since 1977. USMC has adopted it as their Long Range Sniper Cartridge. It is a great choice and is popular worldwide. One of the most popular cartridges in Africa. Of all the magnums, it has the best factory ammunition availability.
I’m glad you corrected yourself whootee I appreciate a man that is honest
The 30-378 is really so overbore that it’s a waste of gunpowder with anything less than a 30 to 32 inch barrel. Many people consider it more of a novelty.
Nice comparison. Don’t worry about the “why didn’t you include x,y,z”. Always going to have that. I built my 30 cal mag on a 98 mauser. Its the 30-338. 338 mag necked down to 30 cal. Basically it’s rge 308 Norma Mag. Norna beat Winchester and Temingto to market with it. Very similar to the 300 WM. I think the 30-338 is more efficient. Was used in 1000 yard matches back in the day. I always like path less travelled.
Thank you for clarifying the information. Yes in factory loads you are correct, no one can dispute that. 300 rum and 300 wby are both extremely powerful and very similar in performance.
I have a 338 edge for long range shooting and hunting. I have never met another big game hunter who uses it. With 265g nosler accubond lr bullets there is nothing I can’t drop.
Going to be very interesting data for sure! One question though, where does the 300PRC fall in this category?
Slightly above the 300 Win especially with bullets above 200 gr.
A really good friend of mine used to love the 300 rum
I’ve seem a handful of 30-378s. Mostly bean field hunters in La and Ms. Only offered in factory Weatherby rifles unless custom built. I’ve only seen it offered by Weatherby ammo for about $150 a box last time I saw it.
I owned a 300RUM for about a year. Bought it with expectations to hunt out west. Went on one whitetail hunt with it and never shot at an animal. My uncle had one that he hunted with for years. Big time overkill for whitetail in La though.
Love the Norma, I’d loan you mine but I’m up in Canada. Keep up the vids Adam!
Great comparison of these factory loads. Any of these will kill anything on this continent. The problem with the very largest 30's is that it takes so much more powder to gain only a modest increase in velocity that I just don't feel it's worth the extra recoil for such a small gain. Austin from Reloading Weatherby has had some very impressive velocity and accuracy from his Vanguard. Maybe he would share his pet loads with you.
I don't have one but my brother used to have a 300 RUM he used for a bear hunt on Kodiak Island. Has great footage of the shot at 180 yards. Guide figured it was around 1100lbs bear it didnmove after the shot. I have a half box of ammo for it . Didn't realize it was a mini fortune
The Weatherby 30-378 is THE MOST POWERFUL commercially available .30 cal. Period.
I talk about that in the video...
@@WHOTEEWHO I'm sorry sir. My apologies. I spoke to soon.
The most powerful .30 cal potato chucker is made by me. PERIOD!
Look at the 338 ultra mag! Stupid crazy!!
He was only 130 lbs at most
my brotha adam, great great vid n #'s there , thank you for showing us n explainng to us , so cool of you bro , love it , def. would would love to bring down some big game with you , that would be fun indeed out there , ive only shot deer here in central pa n small game n such in the 80's , thanks n talk soon . tom !
THANK YOU BROTHA , talk soon adam > tom !
Great video. I've got a begara in 300 win. Now you got me looking to expand my 30 caliber arsenal with a 300 wby
Case capacity is all the information you need to know which one has more power than another.
As far as I know, the 300wby has very similar case capacity as the 300 norma.
I'm sure 30-378s aren't very popular out east, but there are quite a few around out here.
Barrel burners lol, much prefer the 338 myself, good video 👏
Love my ultra mag really it depends on a lot of factors they are all excellent 30 cal magnums it really comes down to what you want
Awesome
At the end of the day all of these are incredible rounds. The Win mag is by far the most popular but the Weatherby is and will always be the most legendary 300 mag hands down. And lets be honest, nothing says you’re serious more than taking a Weatherby afield. I bought mine 25 years ago and it’s terminal to whatever it hits. I only used Weatherby ammo because it’s a little hotter than Remington and Hornady but doubt it really makes a difference at this level of performance
Used to own an early Weatherby pre mark v chambered for the 300 wby mag and built around an FN mauser action. Difficult to find ammo where I live and the rifle was too heavy to carry up the mountains. Regretfully I had to sell it. Later I got a Ruger hawkeye chambered in 300 win mag. It weighs less, recoils less, ammo is available, and though I liked the Wby I wouldn't change my Ruger for it.
When researching I found the biggest factor was the price of the round. 300WM used to be close to .80cents a round when using ammoseek. Otherwise go to a bigger round.
Berger also load 300 norma. I can push 225 eldms to 3060 in mine using retumbo. I gave up that speed for more consistency with h1000 at 2940fps. Before I was using the 225 eldm I used the 208 eldm at 3160fps using retumbo.
Smart choice. The beauty of a large capacity case is that you don’t have to over pressure them to get high velocity with heavy for bore diameter bullets.
I have a 308 norma mag it is the same as the 300 win mag. Norma change from a belted cartridge to a none belted. Any of the 300's are great cartridges, premium ammo make a difference as well. I have 3 Weatherby mags just because when my dad bought me one. I was 14 when the started the Vanguard line and they were affordable. To me the best 300 will always be the one you have at home.
Should be A good show. Where does the 30-378 fall in?? I have A Tika chambered in this caliber.Looking forward to the show. Thank you.
The Weatherby 30-378 is THE MOST POWERFUL commercially available .30 cal. Period. I was looking for this comment!
I talk about that in this video it doesn't count if I have never seen one and I don't know anyone that has one
I've have ocean front properties in Arizona..... dude factory/ handloading 180s??? Go to 230/ 240 grain bullots😅
I use the Nosler reload data and the 300 RUM is able to be loaded 3357 fps, 180 grain bullet. The 30-378 only loads to 3264 fts, 180 grain bullet. But I know these are not factory loads.
Nice to compare the weatherby 30-378 to the others
Always wanted a 300 NM, hopefully one day.
I really love my 300 RUM, it is in the store out here and the ammo is cheaper in our stores than the Weatherby. I think out west you would see more of the RUM stuff including 7MM. Be curious to see compared to 30 Nosler, I believe Nosler loads all of those except the Norma, so could compare all with the same brand ammo
Nice subject enjoyed the video
Thanks for watching
Can not wait! Gunna be epic!
I still hunt with my 300 RUM. Love it......
Could you do a comparison of the Ruger American GII vs the Savage 110?
I had a .338 Lapua that was way too rough on my bad shoulder and I sold it!
Who tee brother in my book " the most powerful 30 cal" is a moot point....doesn't matter to me....personally I have a 300wsm and it is said to be able to take down any animal in North america....300wsm is all I need....anyway your videos are excellent and so I'd the info contained in them...just keep doing you brother your actual fans will continue to support you ^_^
You reinforce my opinion of the 300 rum, I have a 700 sendero which is my favorite
Good video bro.
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Love my 300 WM.
love my .300 Win Mag, Favorite load is a 190gr ABLR at 3000fps, cheers from Canada,
Hell, this isn’t boring. This is a bedtime story! Great video!
why not include the 300 PRC ?? Did you forget it ? I would either buy the Win Mag or the 300 PRC. The RUM is just "over the top" to me, and Weatherby ammo is too expensive.
Really Fun Video 📹
Thanks for watching!
Not sure why you leave out the 30 Nosler with 3200FPS 180gr factory load.
RUM beats Weatherby in every cal from 7mm, 30, 33 & 37. I have 300WM, 300 Bee & 300 RUM, with handloads, the RUM is 200fps faster than the Bee…
You got that right!! I see a ton of RUM’s where I hunt also.
That's why Roy created the 378 and necked it up and down.
The rum was made 40year after weatherby. All they did was make a bigger case big deal the gun will shoot straight if the shooter can shoot. It's nit always the caliber, Roy Weatherby went to Africa with a 257 weatherby & killed every BIG Game he hunted, that 257 weatherby is just a .25 caliber it goes to show it the person behind the gun.
I loved my 300 ultra also had the 30-378 really liked it as well but recoil is a bit much
Great video on ballistics. The good thing about the big 300's they kill on both ends. 180 gr boo lit at 3300 fps WOW. I am the biggest sissy in town when it comes to recoil. I have no interest in muzzle brakes. I have a 308 norma mag/ 30-338 win mag (depends on who is calling it) in a 1960's Sako finbear Sweet rifle. A 180 gr going about 2900 fps plenty of gun for me.
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Going by published handload data for 'factory' rifles. The 30-378 Wby is the most powerful, 300 RUM is second, 300 Wby and 300 Norma Mag are neck and neck for 3rd.
Im guessing the PRC didnt make the cut with limited ammo yet. Awesome charts
300 wsm is king (not but I like mine) great content man keep it coming!
Thanks for watching. 300wsm almost identical to 300 win mag
The 300 WSM is a great cartridge. It’s a 300 Win Mag light. Not quite a 300 Win Mag Heavy. Has great performance and accuracy in a compact package. However, the lawsuit changed everything for all WSM & WSSM over paying out royalties.
I wonder which cartridge can be hot rodded the most?
I do believe that the military uses the Norma for some applications in their sniper rifles.
How does the 300prc compare?
If I ever replace my 300 win mag, I am going for the 338 Norma Mag. The power behind it is actually shocking to behold
30 Nosler is also up there in terms of performance.
I guess its a problem compairing bullet drop, as it says more about the BC and if its not the same bullet and weight for every cartridge, it does not tell that much. I guess muzzle velocity with the same bullet weight is the only way to say "how powerful it is". The bullet choice when it comes to BC can change the drop from a "stone" to a "fighter jet" in every cartridge.
300 RUM was my first rifle took my first moose with it
Where does 300PRC line up with these? I thought it was comparable to the Norma.
30 nosler and 300 prc would have made this even more interesting but still good info
What about the 300 wsm ?
What about the Lazzeroni 308 Warbird
No 300 PRC. It beats a lot of the 30 Cals with the extreme heavy for caliber bullets. For instance the 245 and the 250s
300 NM has to start catching on.
Recoil energy ???
You should take to my to my Dad ! He has all the rum mags!! Collect them. I personally don’t like shooting them! But then again he calls me a wimp!!
So looking at all the data the win mag is not far behind the others but the selling point for me is the brass are cheaper and it uses a lot less powder so I’ll stick with my win mag
How does 300 prc stack up?
Your just going to have to settle it now and order a 30/378 weatherby 🤪
300 prc is a good in between.
All the big 30s are good calibers. They are all capable of taking any north american big game. There should be no controversy because it boils down to personal preference.
👍WTW
Where the Rum really starts to shine is anything above a 180 grainer. It will push a 220 eldx the same speed a 300 weatherby pushes a 200 eldx
Except for the Norma and the newer prc, most of those are not loaded to their full potential. As long as your rifle has the twist rate, you can get close to those numbers that the Norma is putting up with the RUM or the weatherby. The win can get pretty close to if you allow yourself to load beyond COAL.
300 PRC?
Whats up bro ✌️
No PRC ?
You need to be sport’n a hair bun to shoot PRC 😮
The 300 Weatherby is a great cartridge but for powder case capacity it doesnt really perform much better than the old 300wm in speed. Handloaders can gain performance from the 300wm but the overbore Weatherby cartridges have you limited. In my opinion the PRC cartridges are a fad and will more than likely be replaced by something newer and touted to be better..... the old standby cartridges work just fine
What about the .30-378 Weatherby??
I talk about it in the video
Just picked up a sako 75 in 300 rum.
Awesome
They are all so close I don't think it matters.
I load all my ammo from the start no matter what rifle I get I load it from the start very rare that I buy factory shells.
What about 300 H&H mag ?
where can i get one of those remington shirts?
Off their website
I don't understand why the Norma has not been more popular it is almost impossible to find same for the 338 Norma
ok Devils advocate here... what about the 30-378
300 RUM IF HANDLOADED is more powerful.
Forget the factory numbers.
Case capacity in water 110 rum 100 wby .. done.. 🤣. Data no data the numbers don’t lie. 🤪
Compare the two using factor weatherby ammo. There’s a difference !!!