How To Protect Alclad II Metal Paints With Alclad Aqua Gloss - Problem Solved !!
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- čas přidán 21. 09. 2020
- As you can see in this video I ran into a problem with some of my Alclad II paints from the last video and I wanted to show you what happened and how I solved it.
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Insanely useful, Alclad should pay you.
I concur!
Thanks so much for these videos! I'm just getting into lacquers and such for airbrushing, and your videos help a lot!
A good video. I've always been wary about using Alclad chrome etc, due to it's alleged fragility, and inability to be clear coated. Certainly lots of people on modelling pages on the internet / social media say you can't clear coat Alclad chrome. But you've actually shown that you can!
So that's something I'm going to try as well, especially since I'm not keen on the kit chrome on car kits, which looks too toy like.
Dude, thank you for this! Your tests are thorough and extremely helpful. I've been searching for this clear coat answer all night. Cheers!
Thanks buddy
@@barbatosrex9473 can i use this to top coat my gunpla? i was planning on using the alcad 2 for the inner frame only and leaving the rest as just the bare plastic.
Your videos are some of the absolute BEST on youtube for airbrushing instructions! I just finished a custom painted kit and haven't tried the alclad 2 yet and was fearful of messing up the kit. This video has given me the confidence to test it and how to spray it without the sandpaper effect.
Thank you so much. SUBBED!!!
Painstaking analysis and it helped me with the Alclad lines. Well done- thanks
You're welcome buddy 👍
Trying to find the perfect paint for a B-25 model, your videos are so incredibly helpful thank you for putting in the effort!
Thanks friend
Saving me from headaches thank you so much!
Great information on how to use these paints. I'm fixing to start using this brand on all my models.
Great paints, some of my favorites 👍
Thank you for this. I’m getting ready to paint Mando and I’m trying to follow Sideshows metallic method, but they didn’t clarify which water-based clear coat they used. Now I know.
Very detailed and super helpful! Appreciate the content!
I was curios about using this to coat chrome. And hesitant. Funny enough I was bloody shaking the aqua gloss right up to where you said not to. thank you for your video
Hi. Thanks for your demo. Interestingly I had the same problem with the Airframe Aluminium coming off. I talked to the Alclad people at the show at Telford (UK) about it and they told me to do exactly the same thing and use the Aqua Gloss to seal it. It worked really well. one of the strange things they told me was to brush it on with a soft brush and that works really well too. I've also found it's an excellent gloss for use over ordinary paint too. Well worth it.
How did brushing it on work out … good result?
I've used this too and can vouch for it! Better than pledge too, it's great stuff.
Learning off of your videos. Thank you for doing these.
appreciate this video a lot lol, will definitely try the aqua gloss once my paint dries!
Thankx Rob,that sucks I tried to get in on the first batch, but it wouldn't ship to canada,ill order one tonight ,my wife gonna kill me gonna cost me $180 cad anyways keep ur videos coming love watching them every day I only watch them at night with 3 hrs sleep to go to work, ur killing me man😅take care God bless 🙏
this is good info, thanks Rex
Just trying to keep everyone informed. More to come
Thanks for the info. That does help.
just found your channel and the info is awesome! thank you for breaking your process down. just getting into airbrushing and I'm learning. in future videos would you include info like PSI you used? thank you.
Thanks for the kind words. I might have mentioned the PSI I use in my airbrush set up video. But I will in a future video. I just ordered a top of the line H&S Airbrush and I'll do a video on it this week.
Excellent video, hey a question, have you experienced placing masking tape on top of the Aqua Gloss layer? If you did, what was the result? Did it take off his brilliance or stay?
Thank you!
Hey man I love your contant! I have a question I really would love your option. So I’m looking for a translucent paint to paint my canopy of my space marines aircraft. And I came ass alclad translucent green red blue. I was wondering would these work well on the plastic canopy?
Hi there, great channel. Subbed and watching every video. Currently building a RedstoneAtlas rocket that l will paint with Ak extreme metal metallic smoke or titanium. Since l will need to apply decals what clear would recommend to use? Could I use Alclad aqua clear? All the best from Melbourne Australia
Once I get the booth would you agree that I should be able to reach the desired flat and unblemished paint surface (skills aside) due to the correct overstay extraction and no airborne particles to mottle or spoil the wet surface. Regards Kev
I am new to airbrushing and I build model cars. I am really interested in using Alclad on my models. One question I have is when would you use the regular Klear vs the one in this video?
Thanks
Dan
I’ll be using the chrome on a mini in the next couple of weeks. Does it require a clear coat or is the paint sturdy enough on its own? It is a game piece so it will be handled.
Kev Lawlor from Australia. Hi Buddy, today I started to spray Alclad II
Primer & Microfiller followed by Gloss Black Base. I completely screwed it up. I was building my own airbrush spray booth which went well as I am a builder however, I have not hooked up the extractor fan so I sprayed in an open door but out of the wind. The end result was mottled and spotty and crappy looking. I put this down, eventually. to the residual air-born paint residue drying in the booth and settling on the wet surface. Would you agree with this? I contacted Hobby Tools Australia and ordered the air booth you reviewed some time back with the LED lights around it. It has a great extraction system and was only $200.00.
Great informative video as always, have you tried using their regular Klear Kote Gloss vs this Aqua Gloss? I'm curious how the former performs on these chrome/high shine/metallic paints.
He clearly states in the video that the Klear Kote is what damaged the polished brass color, and that alclad recommends Aqua gloss for sealing all of the high shine metal colors.
It does cloud up a bit, and makes it look a bit more like metallic coated plastic, but i guess it's better than other options. I tested it out on more complex parts, and when comparing two identical ones, you can see the difference.
I'm experiencing this too. it completely loses its reflectivity. I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
@@pixelpuppy You're not doing anything wrong. So far, any kind of clear coating will dull the metallic look. If you do that with real metal, it will still produce the same effect. What i do these days is after alclad metallics, i don't clear coat at all. I just leave it to fully cure for a few days. It's fairly resilient after.
Whenever i work on a mech, i paint the metallic bits first, then let them cure and i avoid touching them while i work on the rest of the build.
I also don't really use Alclad clear coats anymore these days. I prefer Mr.hobby ones. They cure better, and they are tougher, without becoming sticky, etc. Besides metallic paints, Alclad doesn't do great products. They are always hit or miss. I had a batch of black gloss primer, it was constantly clogging my airbrush, and was becoming clumpy. Not sure what was wrong with it, but i never had this issue with GaiaNotes or MrHobby, on any of their products. Pretty mediocre quality control i suspect.
I'm looking for a clear coat for tiny windows. Do you know if there's a difference between this alclad, humbrol, and klearkote?
How do you think the aqua gloss will hold up outside on a car? I 3d printed a replica dealer emblem for a truck my dad is restoring. I used the chrome then aqua gloss after epoxying it to get it smooth
How long after spraying the alclad chrome, can you apply the alclad aquar top coat?
Where do you buy the polished brass, can't seem to find it online. Thanks!
Looks like Gauzy Shine by AK. It also is meant for glossing over Extreme Metal paints by AK. Been using it for years
after putting on aqua gloss, would you be able to put a lacquer clear color over it or does it make a weird reaction ?
What clear should be used on the black chrome?
Can you use the chrome for die-cast cars
is the booth fan strong enough to suck all the paint fumes? or do you wear a mask also? thanks
So can you use this clear on regular paint also?
Do you think the alclad ll would work over Green world stuff chrome?
Tell you what for Gundams and Cars you can't beat Alclad's simplicity to use and amazing end results. I grabbed up their whole line and will soon be setting up a channel of my own with results, builds etc. The metals work great on military models as well they even have a darkened jet exhaust color that really pops. A bit expensive but the bottles do go a long way.
I live Alclad, one of my top favorite brands
Wonder why it says to not shake the Aqua Gloss. The white stuff does separate and becomes all gunked up on the bottom over time.
Do you have videos testing the Klear Kote Gloss? Are they good for covering Tamiya Arcylic as well?
I haven't tested them on video yet but they are excellent and work great over Tamiya
Do you think it works with GSW acrylic chrome?
Hope you wife is better! Best wishes!
I wish I knew this as well. Haven’t tried aqua gloss yet. Gloss dulls the chrome.
Anyone have any tips to keep mine as smooth as this? So far I get a grainy look to it. Sometimes rough. I’m using an Iwata Hp cs with a 3.5 needle at 15-20 psi.
Question, I am looking for a laquer based gloss coat to apply before panel lining so that the ennamel thinner do not melt my acrilic paint job, which product would you recommend?
I like Mr Color super clears
My aqua gloss doesnt seem to stick it just sits on the surface like small raindrops what can cause it and how do i fix it?
Hi guys that’s a very nice result😃👌🏻👍🏻🤩 i want to try it sometime but its solvent paint right ? What airbrush cleaner do you use after painting?
I use hardware store lacquer thinner
Where do you order your Alclad from?
Hey bud ,I'm about to purchase ur swallowtail brush but I was wondering about the stand if they are coming back with ur name on it instead of gaahleri.let me know thankx Robert
The ones with my name on them were limited to 300 and they are sold out so you'll have to settle with one without my name 👍
After I spray the Polished Brass or the Chrome, should I wait a day before I should buff it?
Should I buff the Polished Brass and Chrome before I apply the Aqua Gloss or after?
I'd wait at least a day minimum. But when buffing I would go super lightly. I gently rubbed mine with a super soft cloth. Then apply the Aqua Gloss. The Aqua is very durable so after it dries you will be good to buf it too if needed but the Aqua applied right shouldn't need buffing.
How about the klear koat? THe 310?
So can't spray a clear coat over alclad?
What is best practice when applying decals? Putting them on the paint layer and then protecting it with a clear coat or how would it be done?
I've don't it both over the paint and over the clear. Both come out equally the same for me. Some will tell you over clear but others will agree with me. I've seen some trophy winning builds where they put the decals right on the paint.
@@barbatosrex9473 putting the decals on the paint first makes more sense to me too. Thank you a lot for your quick response! Awesome videos too! I ordered almost all of alclads metal products due to your reviews. Keep it up!
I bought the Aqua gloss, and when I tried to spray it the product was really thick, it did not spray at all and took forever to clean out of the air brush. Has anyone else experienced this? Looks like the bottle you have their is not thick like mine.
Hello, is Aqua Gloss Clear ALC-600 a spray paint protector? Or basically what is its function.
It can be used over any paint as a Gloss coat or protector. But certain paints like Alclad should only be coated with it.
If Alclad could get their Brass to shine like their great chrome, it would be perfect for those NASCAR and other racing wheels.
Good afternoon Mr. Rex,
How far back are you pulling the trigger back? 50% 75%
I'm using the .3 needle procon you recommended
Full 100% back
@@barbatosrex9473 Thank you sir!
Now I gotta figure out how to get the crust from Vallejo polyurethane clear coat off my airbrush needle. Got any tips? I've used Tamiya airbrush cleaner and Alclad airbrush cleaner with no luck.
@@xXlamikXx try rubbing alcohol or simple green
In trying to chrome a clastic satin finish vehicle emblem. I used a spray chrome spray paint product from an auto parts store that looked ok over the black gloss primer, but after drying for about 24 hours Iwas able to scrape of the chrome paint and primer with my fingernail! I the alclad for durable?
It's only for indoor model building so I would say no
@@barbatosrex9473 Thank you for the quick reply!
Thank you for the info Rex, yet my results came out saying otherwise.. My Alclad chrome was shiny, after a medium coating of Aqua Gloss it became much less shiny, almost turned to matt. I followed strictly the instructions as what it says on the bottle. Aqua Gloss is NOT recommended from my opinion if you've ALREADY got an satisfying result from the chrome coating. It is protective but will NOT improve the shiny effect FYI.
P.S.: The matt finish was never completely cured since. So it is not time-related.
can you apply this stuff with a hand brush or q-tip? I know it says to not apply in heavy coats, but I’m wondering if I can apply with a hand brush/q-tip conservatively.
I haven't tried it but you can hand brush Pledge Floor Gloss and that's very similar to this just a bit thicker.
@@barbatosrex9473 Ah I see
4everclear headlight clear coat works very well on Chrome paint.
I don't know how long it'll last or how durable it is but you lose zero reflective
your Alclad Airframe aluminum looks VERY SHARP! Did you paint is over gloss black or straight on to the spoon?
Gloss Black
i have a question after using Alclad chrome and alclad aqua gloss it started to habe a crackling effect any tips on how to avoid that? thank you in advancea and love your channel
That has never happened to me. Are you saying the Aqua Gloss cracked?
@@barbatosrex9473 no the chrome started to have a cracked effect after a week but the aqua gloss sealed it lol
Where did you get the polished brass paint? I live in the United States and I can’t find any sites that ship outside of Europe. I’ve seen it’s discontinued on almost all of the online US stores, but that’s not the case for the UK… If anyone knows what’s up, please let me know!
It's been discontinued by the company. They've been having trouble with that color, tons of complaints so they canceled it but I think they're working on a replacement
@@barbatosrex9473 Thank you so much for the info and quick reply! Your channel is awesome, thanks for all your hard work too!
Excuse me, i'm vietnamese, i cant understand. May i ask how many psi you use ?. Thanks for video.
15 to 20psi
I used the candy cobalt blue, I did of gloss black for primer, then chrome, then did a candy cobalt blue, should I use the 310 gloss clear kote?
I have tested both 310 Clear Kote and Aqua Gloss and they both work. Just don't use the 310 on chrome, only Aqua Gloss works on chrome. But for candy you can use either. I actually just tested It for you
@@barbatosrex9473 nice nice thank you so much!! Subscribed :)
@@barbatosrex9473 been trying to see what looks good on my kampfer mg
aqua gloss vs klear kote?
Would you recommend aqua gloss or the klear kote for molotow chrome?
Aqua Gloss
@@barbatosrex9473 thanks!
I've had issues with alclad klear kote from not drying, it always stays tacky. Is aqua gloss better? and what does it mean by water based?
That's odd, I've had good luck with their Klear Kote. Aqua Gloss works great. It's water based, not solvent based. It's basicly floor wax. You can also use Pledge Liquid Floor Gloss, it's sold at Walmart. I use that too. It dries to a nice shine. I might shoot a video with it.
@@barbatosrex9473 thank u for the reply! how long do you usually wait for klear kote to dry? did u use thinner for klear kote? and also when its water based does it wash off by water and soap or does it become water resistant when dried?
@@stevennope5139 no it doesn't wash off with water. There are 3 types of paint. Acrylic based, oil based and solvent based. They use different ways of adhesion to the plastic. Acrylics use a water base, Enamels are oil based and Lacquers are solvent based. They all perform different and it's up to the Hobbyist to choose what's best for them. Acrylics are popular for people in closed areas like apartments cause there's no smell or chemicals involved but they don't perform nearly as well as lacquers. Lacquer is my favorite as they perform just about perfect every time I use them. Acrylics require a little more patience to go on right.
So when you clean this this Aqua Gloss from the airbrush, do you follow instruction just use water? Or can I use my Mr. Cleaner to clean it as well?
I would use acrylic based cleaners. I also like to use very hot water when I clean my acrylics from the airbrush
@@barbatosrex9473 If I don't have Acrylic base cleaner, do you think I can clean this Aqua gross with Mr. Hobby's Mr. Cleaner? I specifically means how to clean this Aqua Gross as I always feel the airbrush is not clean enough, I clean the airbrush with ultrasonic cleaner after every session. Or how did u clean it and 100% sure it's clean cuz it's kind of transparent in the airbrush. Hope to advise.
@@calvin14888 I would use rubbing alcohol or window cleaner after Aqua Gloss. And you must clean it right away after spraying it as Aqua Gloss dries very fast after spraying it. I flush it with very hot water too. Mr Hobby lacquer thinners won't have much effect on Aqua Gloss as it's pretty much a water based floor wax
@@barbatosrex9473 Many thanks. What's the sequence is that rubbing alcohol first than hot water or the other way around?🙂
@@calvin14888 either one, go hot water first. Very hot water from the faucet. Just before I start airbrushing I get super hot water from the sink and put it on my bench. Then when clean be sure blow air for about 20 seconds to dry it up
Hello sir. Can we protect Spaz Stix Chrome with this Alclad Aqua Gloss? Thanks in advance
Yes you can, absolutely
@@barbatosrex9473 Thank you
I tried spray the Aqua coat on the Alclad chrome. Unfortunately, it looks cloudy on it. Am I did anything wrong with the air pressure?
I need more info. Air pressure, needle size??
@@barbatosrex9473 air pressure @20psi. Needle 0.2
@@garylai9248 I'd go with a 15 psi but I feel the needle is too small. Don't ever shake it too. Spray close, 2 wet coats are good but not so wet that it runs. But I feel the needle is too small for clear coats. I use a 4mm needle or larger when I spray clear coats
@@barbatosrex9473 thx! I would try it again on the weekend! Thx again
@@barbatosrex9473 thx Rex! follow your instruction to airbrush again! It works! 🙏 thanks!!
Another issue! Just buy the Alclad black chrome to use it! But I tried to airbrush setting same as the chrome one! The result like matte gun metal! Needle is 0.2, 12 psi! Is there need any other setting? Thanks again
what kind of buffing cloths can i use ? and would i need a buffing cream or liquid ?
I have Alclad Buffing sheets. Water is usually all you will need but a rubbing compound is always welcome for a smooth finish
@@barbatosrex9473 would have buff it before i put the aqua gloss or after ? or can i do both
@@ToyMaestro when Buffing the chrome only use a soft cloth. I use my t shirt. I personally don't polish my Aqua Gloss as I think it needs it. Put it on your piece first and you might like the way it looks before shinning it.
@@barbatosrex9473 THANK YOU !! btw i found a place that is selling Alclad Polished Brass that is sold out everywhere but they are in Ireland and im in california i just placed an order.
do I need to thin the aqua gloss ?
No, you don't thin it and you must clean out the airbrush immediately after spraying it. It's pretty much floor polish
do you know if alclad has a chrome gold that is mirror like ?
They don't unfortunately but I'm searching for one right now to test. The closest I got is Krylon Foil Gold in a spray can. Look up my test for that on my channel. It's pretty nice
@@barbatosrex9473 thank you, i even checked for alclad polished brass and cant find it on ebay or amazon. im gonna check ALCLADS website. thank you and your channel is AWESOME !!!
@@ToyMaestro polished brass has been discontinued. Not sure why. thanks for watching
I know these paints are for models,but I’m thinking of trying the chrome with the clear on my mirrors on my car
Check my newest video on Spaz Stix Spray Can Mirror Chrome, it might be better for your purpose
@@barbatosrex9473 thank sir
Why not use the clear ALC 310 ?
Alclad states not to use that on chrome. They created Aqua Gloss just for their own chrome
Hi..please do candy paint electronic blue and red please 🙏
I coated on blue and it took away the shine 😫
think it will work on the ak chrome?
Yes it should. Aqua Gloss is water based so it's safe for anything
@@barbatosrex9473 thanks!
How to protect Alclad Candy paints ?
Me: shakes bottle, reads label, DO NOT SHAKE.
I tried to buy Polished brass and it said it was discontinued
Maybe that's why it was the only one that gave me trouble. The Aqua Gloss does work great to protect their paint overall though
Can't you also use water based polyurethane?
I believe you can. Always test on a spoon first.
@@barbatosrex9473 duh, stupid me. 🤣
Darn, I got the Klear Kotes thinking they were good for metallics!
They are. I just sprayed them over the Aluminum. The Aqua is made mostly for the Chrome plating. You should own both. You can get Aqua for around $7
Barbatos Rex where do you find them that cheap?!?!?!! I found each of the gloss and flat bottles for $13-15.. the first ever kit I painted was a candy colored hyaku shiki with their regular chrome, and I am LOVING the Alclad chrome.
@@gat-x105strikegundam5 my local hobby shop has the Klear for $9 and I got the Aqua at Scalehobbyist for $6.69
Barbatos Rex awesome! Thanks for the info!
That polished aluminum looks more like chrome than chrome!
One of my favorites from Alclad
Doesn't say don't drink?
I'll have to double check the label to see if it's safe to drink 😉
What is the number of the Aqua gloss sealant?
ALC 600
It’s good, but their website needs to climb out of the late 90’s. And start making some more precise application directions.
What? 8 box? Some one up here is making lot of money. IAfter the currency change and duty charge It is $25 CND
wow that's way to much clear coat :p
just 2 light sprays is enough
The ones labeled HIGH SHINE are not lacquers. They are alcohol based. That's why the rub off easily. That's also how they earned the nickname failclad. Also, I quit using the clear coats. The flat kept chipping off and taking paint with it. The gloss never seems to dry completely and can remain tacky for a month.