Im definitely a mostly CD kind of guy. Digital purchases for music that is not availabe physically. Vinyl for absolute favorite stuff and or for albums that I feel benefit in any way from the vinyl release. Great sound, artwork etc. etc.
I love the whole tactile, sound, and visual experience of collecting vinyl records and the ritual of pulling the record out of the sleeve, placing the record on the platter, playing the record, and looking at the cover, liner notes, etc. while enjoying the songs or tracks. There's nothing else like it, that's for sure. :)
Amen to that. I bought a Rammstein album recently and was pleasantly surprised to find a whole newspaper in the jacket. It wasn't advertised on the outside.
Yes yes. I love putting on a jazz record while drinking my morning coffee. It just puts me in the right mood for the rest of the day. It wouldn't be the same if I double clicked on a song lol
@@QoraxAudio Hey, Qorax. I hope things are going well. I hadn't checked out your channel before, but you've got a lot of great videos with some awesome records being played on your turntables. Subscribed. :)
Vinyls are a lot of fun. I know they have disadvantages in sound quality and longevity, stuff like inner groove distortion and so on, but they're so cool looking and the actual process by which they create sound is really interesting from a scientific standpoint.
"I remember that time years ago when I streamed that album for the first time", said no one ever. Record collectors (or collectors of other media or items) always have interesting stories to tell about how they acquired their albums, the deals they discovered, the record stores or thrift stores they visited to find specific albums, etc. and that's one of the key differences between collecting records versus enjoying the convenience of streaming only. The stories are a huge part of the fun and meeting fellow collectors or chatting and perhaps even discovering other albums or genres of music thanks to those other collectors with differing eclectic tastes, etc. :)
@def creator yes, but not that night. And thanks for noticing how exciting my life is. This is part of why I vlog and share it. I was actually hanging out with a multimillionaire at his house last night. It was a pretty exciting time.
You nailed it Frank, l absolutely love vinyl and everything that goes along with it but am starting to purchase CDs once again purely because of price and principal. I am actually at the stage in life when I can afford to spend more but we are being ripped a new one.😉.
Yea. I agree Paul. I mostly buy CD's these days. Don't get me wrong I love my records.....but the price they want for a bit of vinyl these days puts me off.
CDs just aren't good enough! There not "proper" Hi-Fi! I'll definitely take a hit financially to get that experience, and I'm on a fixed income! It's very addictive sound! That's all my opinion of course! But I do definitely see your point!
@@analoguecity3454 have to say I enjoy CD's as equally as vinyl, in imho they both bring something to the party 🎉 Unfortunately the price of new vinyl seems a rip off to me. I therefore try buying good quality pre-owned vinyl, but even doing that I can buy, and do buy, refurbished CD's for £1-2 from my local big supermarket here in Scotland. Still can't see that changing even when my pre-owned(supposedly "excellent condition" 🤔) Rega RP6 gets delivered from a shop this week. Not sure which of my turntables it will replace, please feel free to have a look at my wee channel if you have the time and inclination. 😉
@@analoguecity3454 not all of us have sonic hearing so cd audio sounds just as good and often sound better than the record unless it's older music that they hadnt figured out that they shouldnt filter out the noise to the point its sterile sounding
@@analoguecity3454 can't argue with you there man, there definitely not true hifi and they don't give me shivers like vinyl do. I guess l have enough vinyl in my collection now to keep me happy for the rest of my days. I will still purchase more of course but will be very picky. Went to purchase Nils Lofgren live by Analogue Sounds the other day but after seeing the price was $160 l passed. I'm Australian by the way. 👍👍👍
I've just always been a physical media guy. In addition to a large CD/vinyl library, I also have an extensive movie collection. It's a totally different experience from streaming. Not that streaming isn't convenient, but I find it much more rewarding to have a physical thing you can hold.
I grew up in a 45 and 33 and 8 track era, before tape deck, and CDs...call me old school but my music has and always been 33's , not to say CDs, or streaming is bad, but having it on hand old or new records is sweet; The cost is getting out of hand, but it'll always good back to supply and demand. I'm always looking for a good buy on vinyl.
I do it to kick back and relax. To be one with the bands I love. I only stream music while I am in the car or at work. Nothing beat dropping the needle and listening to the music.
CDs are the best format. I love records and unlike a ton of people, I kept my records even when I did not have a TT up and running. I have found, that a well mastered and engineered recording sounds awesome on both CDs and records. That is the key. I still have my cassettes as well.
The art work on the 12 inch albums is so good. then there's the posters and other things that come in the albums. The Beatles Abbey Road is a good example. Then there's picture discs. I have bought albums just because of the picture discs. Enjoy your collecting!
Streaming music is for me is just my way to discover new artists music to see if it's worth spending money on buying it on physical media. I just wish we had this back in the 1980's. I would've saved money on some of the crap purchases.
Love vinyl! I occasionally go to flat black and circular to buy it. Owner of the store knew some of the stuff I liked and hooked me up. You can tell he has fun at his job !
I'm not a format snob either, but I do like the 'time travel' experience of playing the original release on equipment contemporary to the release. I have a 60's stereogram for some, a Midi-Hifi for more modern vinyl / early CDs, a retro-looking modern all-in-one for 78s and also use CZcams to stream current (post 2010) stuff. Even with music in the last 5 years, I still buy on CD though and vinyl has to be a really special release by a special artist as I now buy less than 3 a year and still only new-release music (no reissues!). Because this old music is new-to-me, I like to imagine being that listener whose just bought it new at the time of release and enjoy their wonder of the first listen in context of the culture and music of that time. As with all 2nd hand markets (including my stereogram), the randomness of what becomes available is really fun - especially in real-world shops. Most of my knowledge has come from notes and credits on original releases that are not available elsewhere. You gotta love the twee marketing blurb of 60's releases. Sometimes listing the artist's interests and height, they sound like a bad dating ad!
As a 90s kid, I missed out on the vinyl era as I grew up on cassette and CD era. I only started collecting vinyl 7 years ago. All your points hit the spot, Frank! Personally I’ve been collecting CDs for errr… oh gosh 20 years haha. But a few years back CD started to die here in Indonesia with the closure of our biggest music store chain. You have to buy CDs from overseas so price became really expensive. That’s when I started to collect vinyl instead as vinyl was also having a resurrection here. Well basically I’m just someone who still believes that music needs a physical manifestation! The whole experience of listening to vinyl is just so special 💙
Love your videos Frank. I wish I would have gotten into this hobby years ago and it’s such a shame cause I’ve always loved music. I was born in 85 and just missed out on the record era, BUT, luckily I finally got into it a few months ago. Thanks for doing what yo u do and please keep it up! Thanks!
Great video as always, Frank…. That is suck a great question/ debate subject. I am in a couple of camps. When CD’s were the main source of physical media back in the day, I totally abandoned vinyl completely. Even though Some CD’s sounded god awful….. then there were your audiophile CD’s that still get me going, they are just so clean detailed. Then when streaming became the way to go, I resisted for a very long time as the sound quality was almost in-listenable. Like you mentioned., it has gotten so much better, but to me, the main attraction is the convenience. If you are working around the house, or cooking or cleaning, or just being lazy. You put on one of your playlist for that specific mood and let it go for hours upon hours at a time. As much as I have come back to vinyl, and it is my main go to when I really want to “listen” to music, sometimes the whole vinyl process is just too much….. I too have slowed down in my vinyl collecting. It is so out of hand. For some reason, every album I want is like $200-$600. I am like WTF?!?! thank god most of the ones on my wish will be coming back in print at some point. Even if I get a reissue it will still be anywhere between $40-$80. That is still outrageous to me.
I purchase fewer LPs than I did in the past few years. However, the fewer LP purchases I have made have been mostly for new albums, new music. Still buy some CDs too. Check out a lot of new music on Spotify first.
I just found and bought David Bowie's Let's Dance at a second hand store just two months ago. Cleaned it, played it and wow! it sounded great! What a great album.
Bought this on release , of course a major disappointment after Scary Monsters but you’re right Frank this hands down beats the CD , have you heard btw Hunky Dory or Ziggy Stardust first issues ? Truly amazing !
Great topic Frank. The price of vinyl nowadays has meant that I cut back on my purcheses to 1 or 2 per month. I still buy CD's because i want something tangible, but the artwork and sleeve notes on vinyl are just cool and really can pull you in. I cant recall spending lots of time reviewing my CD covers. I will always love records so thank goodness for your show !! Keep on spinnin !!
For me it's a tactile thing. Dropping a needle in a groove and hearing such amazing sound quality with musicians that sound like they're live in the room...that's what trips my trigger.
TOOL's Fear Inoculum release is a masterclass in vinyl pressing. It sounds amazing and the dynamic range is far better than what's on CD. Plus! The clipping is gone on the records. I too enjoy the ritual, Frank! Even fi I put a record on for the first time and it's a bad pressing, I still enjoy the experience of choosing an album and getting the record on the platter.
I really love what you said about the ritual of hearing vinyl. I love that too, and I love the sound. But when you compare the prizes to the prizes s few years ago, it's insane. Some people realized that there is a lot of money to earn with vinyl. And some of us are paying every prize! When I look at the prize of new vinyl in the stores, the prizes have nearly doubled in the last 5 years. So I really think twice before buying a record, ore sometimes take the cd instead.
You nailed it again Frank!❤There's an entire part of the music experience that people who aren't into physical media,vinyl in particular are missing out on.The artwork on albums is just fantastic. Growing up in Canada in the 70s and 80s as a kid and adolescent I have a huge collection of classic Canadian lps that are pretty rare and I feel proud I'm also helping to preserve that music in some way.A great deal of this music has never been released on CD or digitized in any version on any streaming service.Think I should donate those albums to the Canadian music museum or something when I pass on someday just so they are preserved. Be a shame to lose that part of our music history.
Let's face it. People are lazy. They want it fast, they want it now. Personally I enjoy the engagement of the music. Finding that one album....getting home with it....then finally getting to hear it. Be it a small setup or an extravagant one. Love it all. Right on man.
You were one of the first vinyl CZcamsrs I watched way back in 2015 when I first got into it. It's also nice that I gained some exposure to the music you like. I like all the details you can find on the run-out groove in addition to the center label and liner notes.
As a baby boomer I've been listening to LP's for decades, no one called them "vinyls" in the old days. Although more expensive than CD's, the inflation adjusted price is the same now as it was 30-40 or more years ago with the exception of special reissues, limited number, box sets, 180 grams, audiophile pressings, analog recordings and so on that have, for a long while, invaded this market, something I have the discipline to stay away from, I'm too frugal to spend North of a 100 + dollars for a single album, I don't care how many booklets are inside the box set. Thrift shops, garage sales and record stores also selling used ones are great places to find records at very affordable prices and I do visit them almost weekly. And yes, you are right, there is all sort of engagement in playing a record, from start to finish, something missing with CD's and streaming.
I am pretty sure the term 'vinyl' was popularized by DJs in the 90s, but I am not 100% sure. That said, I was recently reading some of my old rock mags from the 80s, and noticed on occasion, they referred to records as vinyl.
I agree with you , some albums are just outstanding. Like you I prefer the orchestra pit effect that only vinyl gives you. One of my favorite sounding albums is Neil Young's Massey Hall 1971 reissue. It is one of the best sounding albums , sounds like he is in the room . Can't get that from CD or streaming.
Thanks for another insightful video. I listen to a lot of big 1950’s to 1970’s big band and jazz on vinyl. Vinyl’s expansive soundstage and being able to hear individual instruments are the main attractions for me. Streaming on Spotify is a great way to find new jazz music, since there is only one jazz radio station in my area. I usually buy CD’s of recent releases. I agree that CD’s are a bargain now and they sound great.
I myself have slowed down also buying records. I still pick up new albums but have lately been trying to complete collections. You are right that David Bowie album sounds really good I myself have a for promotion only copy of that album. Keep up the great work hope you and your family had a good Easter.🤘😎
There is still something to be said for finding that photo, poster, inner sleeve, booklet or bonus materials in an album that you thought were LONG gone...Also, it's awesome to find that rare album or 45' and discover a long-lost b-side or album track that is just as good as the hit, although the hit is what gets played on the radio or included in compilations...Finding those "secret gems" is what makes this hobby so much fun for me! Lots of them out there, too! And they're not all on CD or on the streaming services!
Still collecting both Records & CD's. On one hand just got a 5 CD ELO/Jeff Lynn set under $10. U.S. & On the Other I just found a White Vinyl pressing of Trans Siberian Orchestra's 1'st record for $11. U.S. (It was listed as $22. but rang up $11.) Thank you Walmart!
Hi Frank totally agree with all your comments buddy I'm recently enjoying my CDs again since I bought a DAC and connected my Marantz player to that then into my Amp ,the sound is so much better than just using the RCA cables but I'm still a vinyl fan 1st & most.
Hi Frank. It was so nice to see Iron Maiden's Somewhere in Time. I have been a huge Derek Riggs and Eddie fan since I was a teenager. Every time I got a new Maiden tape I would look for Riggs' signature symbol and the black cat with the halo. You are right. It was pretty tough with the small picture from the tape cassette cover. Live after death is a cool one too. I love your videos. Keep them coming! LONG LIVE VINYL!!!
Good points, all true. I always kept buying CDs, especially now when they are the best bargain for physical media. I’m in FB groups and sellers put older ones up for from $1 to $3 apiece. I just bought 4 this afternoon that way. Vinyl will always be my #1 thing but for a stretched budget the CD still rules.
Definitely can relate with the "Culture" point. I maintain a Facebook group for vinyl collectors in the Carolinas with 3k members, and we're able to have group events during RSD and organize around local live music events etc. as well, and just being able to share our finds and talk about the stores etc. as a community is such a treasure.
Hey Frank, Love your channel. Glad to hear they are reissuing Quiet Riot II. Randy Rhoads is the reason I have been playing classical guitar for close to 40 years. Hard to believe it was 40 years ago on March 19 that we lost Randy. I buy more CDs then records because of the price. Keep the great content coming.
@Richard Hawkes That is so cool to hear Randy Rhodes got you playing classical guitar! I love Randy! It is a real shame we lost him so long ago. He was such a gifted guitarist. But with guys like you keeping his memory alive Randy will always be among us. Rock on. 🤘Debs
I mirror what you say exactly. Reduced my record purchases of older jazz albums because of costs. Glad I got back into it a few years ago when costs weren’t off the charts. Pick up the odd CD when it’s a fraction of the cost of the album. Sure glad I didn’t dump my collection 20 years ago. 😎
We’re doing what you’re doing Frank regarding vinyl and CD’s and for the same reasons. Years ago, when you bought a vinyl release, it was cut and dry. Now, you have to do your homework, ie-where it’s pressed, who mastered/remastered the record, how many grams(140, 180 or 200), how or where to get it, etc. Sometimes we felt overwhelmed and we stopped buying for awhile until just recently.
I enjoy reading the album covers, looking at the artwork, extras that you find stuffed inside the album covers. ( no drugs or money yet). I found a letter that a 4th grader was going to send to David Cassidy.🤩
I spent HOOOOURS obsessing on Iron Maiden records, love the sound of the needle dropping on the vinyl, takes me back to being a little kid listening to Dynasty or News of the World laying on the floor with my big 70s headphones on looking over the covers and liner notes, ive got to be honest im a little disappointed in the RSD Voivod angel rat packaging, no inner art or liner notes, if you are going to repress or reissue a classic and charge what they charged i think a little extra effort would go a long way, thats why i love the Faith no More reissues.
I definitely like the overall experience playing a record better in most cases. But I tend to only buy select recordings to listen that way. For me it comes down to the money and also the convenience of streaming, so I do stream a lot. But streaming does help me discover music that I want to own on vinyl. My hope is that they will still pressing more records due to demand and maybe the prices will stabilize or start to fall. Who knows? I never thought I would be listening to vinyl again after cd's came out 40 years ago.
I'm the same way. It is much too hard to que up those vinyl records on your portable record player as you try to scarf down a burger on a bumpy road in your beat to crap pickup truck anyway.....lol
Hey Frank, On the back of Somewhere In Time at the top right of center you will see a neon Texas Records And Tapes. That was an actual store in Pasadena Texas during the '70s and '80s called Texas Tapes And Records. The owner Jumpin' Jeff was good friends with Nico McBrain. That was the go to place to get metal imports. Cool video as always. Cheers 🥂
I love the idea of buying vinyl. But, because of the problems you mentioned, I've cut way down. It's got to be a special album for me to kick out that kind of scratch if the cd costs 1/2 as much.
For a 'bad' sounding CD, in most cases it is down to the engineer who is mastering the mix that is used to produce the CD. I have a not really noticed the difference (but then I have a 36 band per side EQ) that all recordings go through
Frank, So glad that you posted this list of reasons, for your love affair with vinyl record collecting. I’m still a little traumatized from that April Fool’s video. 🤣 I love your channel and I always watch when you release a new video.
Because we're suckers for vinyl! 😋 If οne can see it objectively, and as the vinyl prices are getting higher and higher, you can get the same album on CD for 1/3 of the vinyl price. But for the reasons you explain on this video, we keep on buying (mostly) vinyl. As long as we can, at least.
100% agree Frank. I also still buy CDs and tapes. Most of my purchases are records, but I still buy certain things on CD especially when the price of the record is three or four times higher. Rock on Frank!
I started buying/collecting in the early 2000's. And for me,its about having a physical copy in my hand along the many reasons you listed . But its the same way with movies and cd's and a good book.
couldn't agree with you more about vinyl....and something i noticed about (some) streamers is tat they pick and choose the songs they want to listen to, while ignoring the songs they should be listening to...the deep cuts are usually always the best cuts on any album and those tend to get missed, along with the sequencing the artist intended....and of course, the vinyl community...the best part of it all....hope you guys are all doing well...my best to sheri.....and my thanks to you my friend...peace and luv always...rocky
Something someone (famous I guess) said during an interview on Nate Goyer's Vinyl Guide podcast, was something like.. I ACTIVELY listen to music on Vinyl when I sit, relax and enjoy music. I PASSIVELY listen to music on CD or streaming whilst I'm doing jobs around the house. That sums it up for me. All have a place, and all are for the love of music as a whole. 💜
I am also a CD guy and they do form most of my music collection. But vinyl records have their place in it to. I am not buying new ones but only old ones (60s, 70s - mainly - and 80s) that do not have a CD version (or the CD is less easier to come by) and that I consider are worth having. So the thrill of the hunt makes an important part of the collecting thing and I experience it for records or CDs alike. I am constantly checking my want list on various sites to see how the price are going, how my waiting orders are going or if something interesting has come up. In the meantime I just enjoy listening to music and as a challenge trying to avoid streaming as much as I can... 😏
The rituals associated with vinyl music are also intrinsic to the experience for me. I have long said that you listen to a CD/cassette/digital stream but you PLAY a record.
The only records i collect would be original pressing from the 60's and 70's to replace the ones that i used to have. Some of these records are sealed and have never been played.
I've also never stopped buying cds. I guess my only shift has been buying more used and being more picky with the price. If the price is a bit much for a used piece, I'll pass.
Totally with you Frank on listening to vinyl. Yeah I’ve bought tons of CDs over the years and during the late 90s /noughties when vinyl had almost totally disappeared but it was never the same for me. I now probably buy more vinyl than when I was a teenager but like you I need to peg that back a bit. I have a first press of Let’s Dance too and although my copy Is a bit worn I agree it sounds superb !
For new music releases, I tend to go for the CD version. I figure it was recorded digitally and the tracks were not arranged with vinyl in mind (louder and more dynamic on outer grooves, mellower toward the inside) so CD it is. Plus, agreed... money. I think you nailed it for a lot of us with the historical artifact aspect especially for older records. Hope all is well, Frank! Cheers, Tom
Hey Tom, good to hear from you. You raise an excellent point, and one I don't consider often enough -- that being sequencing for vinyl. A huge difference from 35 to 40 years ago, vs today.
I've got my older cousin's 70s Black Sabbath: Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and also a new pressing. One time a buddy and I put them both on back to back and the old, thin but excellently maintained 70s copy blew us back Memorex style. Shockingly different.
Still buy mostly vinyl. I listen to a lot of punk & other types of DIY artists & their LPs are cheap. The last 4 LPs I recently bought were all around $18 apiece. If I got them directly from the labels or artists they'd be cheaper, probably around $10-12 apiece. But a few are UK or European labels & shipping is insane so I got them from US sellers for just a few bucks more. That being said, if all these other bands & labels can sell LPs for as little as $10, the ONLY way to explain other LPs costing $30, $40+ is because of greed.
Well said, jesusgavemeaids. Paying over $25 CAD, or $30 for 2 album set new, retail, and after GST (tax) in Ontario, Canada is simply unreasonable. Yes, I think it's also about greed, too.
@@georgeanastasopoulos5865 it definitely is. That's the only reason I can explain such low costs from so many DIY labels & artists. & many of them are great quality, great pressings that sound great. Even though some of it is punk music, but punk isn't synonymous with "bad sounding or poor quality" recordings...like some people think of it as 3-chord simple music, but some is quite complex really.
Funnily enough Frank, when you held up the Bowie album, I thought to myself 'I've got a copy of that' So I dug it out and added it to my listening rail. As I did, I noticed a small sticker with the price I bought it for: £0.60 (app $1, or $10Cad - sorry couldn't resist) It's in pretty good nick, so I guess it's worth a bit more than that now, so some times you do win out. I also have a copy of Hawkwind's In Search of Space, which I was GIVEN complete with all the booklets etc and I saw that at £90 recently. That sort of thing is the exception for me however as the music does come first. I have some really old rough looking albums which I treasure and some which I have owned for nearly 50 years now. Also am enjoying things even more having just upgraded my cartridge to an Ortofon 2M Red. I am also biding my time on upgrading the Turntable to a Technics at some point, so the gear side is another aspect.
Enjoyed it as always Frank. Music first and no slave to the format is the way to go. Pulling my Let’s Dance off the shelf for a listen tonight. Thanks buddy
I started collecting vinyl since 2018, I believe I started just in time to get my most favorite albums. Now I can't find them at an affordable price, if and only if I can find them. I am waiting a pre-order item and that will be the end of vinyl for me. CDs has been my my favorite format.
I don't care if the cost of records go up, the main point as you said in the beginning is SOUND! I'm very addicted to the sound, and will pay what I have to to get it (within reason of course)! CDs just don't sound that immersive (my opinion) and are quite boring (once again, my opinion)! Gas prices have also gone up, but you gotta get around! OK, bad example! But you get my point! I'm on a fixed income, and go out of my way to get "that sound" , even if it means I have to go without something I need! I'm not a format snob either, I think it's healthy to have different OPTIONS to get music! So I guess I'm saying I'm going the opposite way your going and listening to more LPs than CDs! But I do download songs off streaming services to walk the dogs!
I saw Bowie live during the LET’S DANCE tour and the original pressing LP is nearly as scorching as the concert. So great example there, Sir Frank. Keep the vids coming and let’s see some vintage jazz hyped once in awhile.
I actually have stopped buying CDs. I agree with you strongly on many things. I also love the ritual of taking the record out of te sleeve,placing it on the turntable. I also like the hunt. I went to Record store day last Saturday and that was a lot of fun. Sound quality is also big, especially on ELO and Alan Parsons LPs. I've had some issues with a little semblence. Not real bad and not all ss's. The albums I bought last Saturday were used and I understand that might be the reason. There is something else that I noticed right away. On an LP, under the title of the song is the person who wrote the song. Not on CDs. As far as streaming, I think Alice Cooper said it best. "I think people got tired of buying air."
Lol. A week ago I watched a video by a British hi-fi store owner who listed all the albums he never wanted to hear again because so many customers brought them in to evaluate equipment. It must be a testament to how good it sounds, but Bowie's Let's Dance was at the top of his list. Appreciate the show.
@@Channel33RPM The YT channel is called Cheshireaudio if you want to check it out. I watched it again and realized that Let's Dance wasn't his #1 pick, it was the first one in the video at #5. His #1 pick was Dire Staits Love Over Gold.
If you want an audiophile quality pressing without paying an audiophile price, every collection should have a copy of Donald Fagen's - The Nightfly. Whenever I see a copy I usually pick it up. You can usually get it for $10, and it's a great listen.
I want the Buena Vista Social Club on vinyl. I received several vinyl LP's of Black Sabbath. I like the Black Sabbath vinyl because you can hear everything on it. It is fantastic!
Yep, the visceral experience is why I like vinyl. It’s always a more active listening experience and I feel more connected to the music because of that.
Vinyls are a lot of fun. There's something special about the experience of collecting physical media. I know that vinyl records suffer from inferior sound quality and they don't have the best longevity but it's still worth it to collect them, especially for historical purposes.
Vinyl collector who lives in Bali Indonesia here. I love imagining who has owned my used records, where the albums traveled, and most of all what in the hell made someone sell their very good plus 75' original pressing of Physical Graffiti !! Lol Good stuff Frank
It’s not just the sound of the vinyl but like you said the artwork too. Maiden as you showed is a perfect example as their artwork is fantastic. I have slowed down my purchases though as the government here in the uk is crippling us with rising prices on everything 😡
I still love my records but I find myself buying mostly used or older records over new records. I prefer older music but used records are cheaper and usually sound better. New records are too expensive, especially audiophile records. The quality control is still an issue as is poor mastering. I’m also still buying CDs. I almost never stream and when I do, it’s SiriusXM radio. I tried Spotify and don’t like it for many reasons. My main issue with Spotify is the fact that they use re-recorded versions of songs. The other issue is they list multiple versions of a particular song but no matter what version you select, you always get the album version. I dropped Spotify after the free trial ended. With my CDs, vinyl (and I even collect 8-tracks), I will always hear the version of the songs I want to hear when I want to hear it, even when my internet is down.
Yes, I will sit with the album cover and inserts in my hand while listening to the music. Also great to hear songs in the order they were laid out in, on the vinyl.
A lot of newer records are recorded digitally(Mofi), older ones are analog of course (pre 1980s) the prices of new records have increased quite a bit, used records as well, cds are still available and more affordable, some cds have a good quality sound (use a quality DAC), and some cds sound horrible, so you have to hunt for the good ones, lots of used records and cds out there, the hunt is a lot of fun and more when you find a real good one! Thank you for your videos Frank keep'em coming!
About 90% of the vinyl that I purchase is vintage. The new vinyl that I do buy comes from local stores. I really trust the pressings coming in from Germany and Czech Republic. Right now the Europeans are pressing vinyl the right way. The best part of discogs is I can find some older OOP LPs at as decent price, titles that have not seen the light of day on CD.
I’ll buy all media still. But my online experience has soured. And I will be buying less that way. I think a significant amount of eBay and Discogs dealers suck at grading. Around 40% of the records graded NM /VG+/VG that I’ve bought online, are graded notch up, of what they really are. On top of that, around 15-20% of the records receive some damage during shipping, because too many sellers use record mailers that are too thin. And they don’t reinforce them with additional cardboard. It’s fairly simple to add a little more support, to help insure the records arrive safely
My point of contention is that streams are not always available that my convenience. I’ve had some “vanish” off the web. That’s no problem with vinyl or CD.
I've lost interest in vinyl now. I enjoyed buying albums I had on cassette and cd, either secondhand or new between 2016 to 2020, but the more I found the less success I had with finds. Plus the cost of it all is too much now! I have most of my cds back now but I only listen to them in my car, once I get another car there won't be a cd player in it. I did think about buying a cd player for the livingroom, but I gave up on that idea for now. I tried Spotify in 2020 and I use it daily, it's great value, contains thousands of albums I enjoy, and I can discover new music easily, and I love creating a new playlist.
For me vinyl records are the best experience of music at home. But for another reason not mentioned here. The memories. I remember when I bought every records including CDs but don't ask me if I remember what was the first mp3 download I did, I don't remember the later.
All good points. I am pleasantly surprised by record collectors who didn’t grow up with vinyl. Another big attraction for me is nostalgia. In particular, I used to covet the import section of record stores but could never afford the much higher prices when I was younger. That also meant not buying albums that were only available as imports (I grew up in Toronto but listened mostly to British punk, post-punk and New Wave. Today, through the “magic” of Discogs, I can compare listings from around the world and pick up the best-sounding copies of albums that I am replacing (Canadian vinyl is usually meh) or adding. German, UK, and Japanese pressings, for the music I collect, are the ones I target.
All the work is worth it. And if you go to a concert to meet your favorite artists and you get an autograph, you can't get an autograph on a streaming service.
Because we love it. The demand is there and in a struggling industry someone needs to step up and supply, in fact, do better than that and promote the availability and purchase of music on vinyl. We’re telling them to take our money, so they need to find a way. PS thanks for the Bowie tip I’ll swing one back at ya: Meshell N’degocello’s peace beyond passion. Stunning!
I just love listening to records and reading the liner notes and the artwork as well. Plus records are just fun, dropping the needle the spin and the sound. I love my Amazon stream service instant access to huge catalog of tunes. I still have CD's but rarely play them along with a small collection of cassettes. But taking the time to sit and listen to records is much needed down time to relax and enjoy old and new tunes.
Im definitely a mostly CD kind of guy. Digital purchases for music that is not availabe physically. Vinyl for absolute favorite stuff and or for albums that I feel benefit in any way from the vinyl release. Great sound, artwork etc. etc.
I love the whole tactile, sound, and visual experience of collecting vinyl records and the ritual of pulling the record out of the sleeve, placing the record on the platter, playing the record, and looking at the cover, liner notes, etc. while enjoying the songs or tracks. There's nothing else like it, that's for sure. :)
Amen to that. I bought a Rammstein album recently and was pleasantly surprised to find a whole newspaper in the jacket. It wasn't advertised on the outside.
Yes yes. I love putting on a jazz record while drinking my morning coffee. It just puts me in the right mood for the rest of the day. It wouldn't be the same if I double clicked on a song lol
Well said. Just listened to the Hendrix Are You Experienced which I bought in 69. Still sounds sooooo good.
Hi Jon, good to see you again! 👍
@@QoraxAudio Hey, Qorax. I hope things are going well. I hadn't checked out your channel before, but you've got a lot of great videos with some awesome records being played on your turntables. Subscribed. :)
Because it’s still so much fun , Frank.
I'm a physical media guy. I got into CDs after I was into cassettes. I still play both but vinyl took over as my main preferred format.
Vinyls are a lot of fun. I know they have disadvantages in sound quality and longevity, stuff like inner groove distortion and so on, but they're so cool looking and the actual process by which they create sound is really interesting from a scientific standpoint.
"I remember that time years ago when I streamed that album for the first time", said no one ever.
Record collectors (or collectors of other media or items) always have interesting stories to tell about how they acquired their albums, the deals they discovered, the record stores or thrift stores they visited to find specific albums, etc. and that's one of the key differences between collecting records versus enjoying the convenience of streaming only.
The stories are a huge part of the fun and meeting fellow collectors or chatting and perhaps even discovering other albums or genres of music thanks to those other collectors with differing eclectic tastes, etc. :)
Absolutely!
I vividly remember when I streamed Blackstar for the first time. Bowie was still alive.
@@danieldaniels7571 Yeah, but is that a cool story to tell your friends? It's not the same as scooping up an album and you know that.
@def creator yes, but not that night. And thanks for noticing how exciting my life is. This is part of why I vlog and share it. I was actually hanging out with a multimillionaire at his house last night. It was a pretty exciting time.
You nailed it Frank, l absolutely love vinyl and everything that goes along with it but am starting to purchase CDs once again purely because of price and principal. I am actually at the stage in life when I can afford to spend more but we are being ripped a new one.😉.
Yea. I agree Paul. I mostly buy CD's these days. Don't get me wrong I love my records.....but the price they want for a bit of vinyl these days puts me off.
CDs just aren't good enough! There not "proper" Hi-Fi! I'll definitely take a hit financially to get that experience, and I'm on a fixed income! It's very addictive sound! That's all my opinion of course! But I do definitely see your point!
@@analoguecity3454 have to say I enjoy CD's as equally as vinyl, in imho they both bring something to the party 🎉
Unfortunately the price of new vinyl seems a rip off to me. I therefore try buying good quality pre-owned vinyl, but even doing that I can buy, and do buy, refurbished CD's for £1-2 from my local big supermarket here in Scotland.
Still can't see that changing even when my pre-owned(supposedly "excellent condition" 🤔) Rega RP6 gets delivered from a shop this week.
Not sure which of my turntables it will replace, please feel free to have a look at my wee channel if you have the time and inclination. 😉
@@analoguecity3454 not all of us have sonic hearing so cd audio sounds just as good and often sound better than the record unless it's older music that they hadnt figured out that they shouldnt filter out the noise to the point its sterile sounding
@@analoguecity3454 can't argue with you there man, there definitely not true hifi and they don't give me shivers like vinyl do. I guess l have enough vinyl in my collection now to keep me happy for the rest of my days. I will still purchase more of course but will be very picky. Went to purchase Nils Lofgren live by Analogue Sounds the other day but after seeing the price was $160 l passed. I'm Australian by the way. 👍👍👍
I've just always been a physical media guy. In addition to a large CD/vinyl library, I also have an extensive movie collection. It's a totally different experience from streaming. Not that streaming isn't convenient, but I find it much more rewarding to have a physical thing you can hold.
I grew up in a 45 and 33 and 8 track era, before tape deck, and CDs...call me old school but my music has and always been 33's , not to say CDs, or streaming is bad, but having it on hand old or new records is sweet; The cost is getting out of hand, but it'll always good back to supply and demand. I'm always looking for a good buy on vinyl.
I do it to kick back and relax. To be one with the bands I love. I only stream music while I am in the car or at work. Nothing beat dropping the needle and listening to the music.
CDs are the best format. I love records and unlike a ton of people, I kept my records even when I did not have a TT up and running. I have found, that a well mastered and engineered recording sounds awesome on both CDs and records. That is the key. I still have my cassettes as well.
The art work on the 12 inch albums is so good. then there's the posters and other things that come in the albums. The Beatles Abbey Road is a good example. Then there's picture discs. I have bought albums just because of the picture discs. Enjoy your collecting!
Streaming music is for me is just my way to discover new artists music to see if it's worth spending money on buying it on physical media. I just wish we had this back in the 1980's. I would've saved money on some of the crap purchases.
Love vinyl! I occasionally go to flat black and circular to buy it. Owner of the store knew some of the stuff I liked and hooked me up. You can tell he has fun at his job !
When I'm out digging for hours and find that ONE hidden gem at a great deal ... It's a feeling like no other. Its borderline therapeutic for me..
I'm not a format snob either, but I do like the 'time travel' experience of playing the original release on equipment contemporary to the release. I have a 60's stereogram for some, a Midi-Hifi for more modern vinyl / early CDs, a retro-looking modern all-in-one for 78s and also use CZcams to stream current (post 2010) stuff. Even with music in the last 5 years, I still buy on CD though and vinyl has to be a really special release by a special artist as I now buy less than 3 a year and still only new-release music (no reissues!). Because this old music is new-to-me, I like to imagine being that listener whose just bought it new at the time of release and enjoy their wonder of the first listen in context of the culture and music of that time.
As with all 2nd hand markets (including my stereogram), the randomness of what becomes available is really fun - especially in real-world shops. Most of my knowledge has come from notes and credits on original releases that are not available elsewhere. You gotta love the twee marketing blurb of 60's releases. Sometimes listing the artist's interests and height, they sound like a bad dating ad!
As a 90s kid, I missed out on the vinyl era as I grew up on cassette and CD era. I only started collecting vinyl 7 years ago. All your points hit the spot, Frank! Personally I’ve been collecting CDs for errr… oh gosh 20 years haha. But a few years back CD started to die here in Indonesia with the closure of our biggest music store chain. You have to buy CDs from overseas so price became really expensive. That’s when I started to collect vinyl instead as vinyl was also having a resurrection here. Well basically I’m just someone who still believes that music needs a physical manifestation! The whole experience of listening to vinyl is just so special 💙
I really like the taking it out and wiping off , placing on the turntable and enjoying it.
Love your videos Frank. I wish I would have gotten into this hobby years ago and it’s such a shame cause I’ve always loved music. I was born in 85 and just missed out on the record era, BUT, luckily I finally got into it a few months ago. Thanks for doing what yo u do and please keep it up! Thanks!
Awesome. Welcome to the world of vinyl!
Never too late. I was also born in the 80s and only started to listening to vinyl records last summer. Enjoy yourself and welcome!
@@latetotheparty7551 I appreciate it man! Thanks!
@@guitarguyf16 Of course. Do you plan on hitting up Record Store Day?
One more thing; buying vinyl is also a great way to support local and/or independent artists.
I love it all,CD, digital and records.
Great video as always, Frank…. That is suck a great question/ debate subject. I am in a couple of camps. When CD’s were the main source of physical media back in the day, I totally abandoned vinyl completely. Even though Some CD’s sounded god awful….. then there were your audiophile CD’s that still get me going, they are just so clean detailed.
Then when streaming became the way to go, I resisted for a very long time as the sound quality was almost in-listenable. Like you mentioned., it has gotten so much better, but to me, the main attraction is the convenience. If you are working around the house, or cooking or cleaning, or just being lazy. You put on one of your playlist for that specific mood and let it go for hours upon hours at a time. As much as I have come back to vinyl, and it is my main go to when I really want to “listen” to music, sometimes the whole vinyl process is just too much…..
I too have slowed down in my vinyl collecting. It is so out of hand. For some reason, every album I want is like $200-$600. I am like WTF?!?! thank god most of the ones on my wish will be coming back in print at some point. Even if I get a reissue it will still be anywhere between $40-$80. That is still outrageous to me.
I purchase fewer LPs than I did in the past few years. However, the fewer LP purchases I have made have been mostly for new albums, new music. Still buy some CDs too. Check out a lot of new music on Spotify first.
I just found and bought David Bowie's Let's Dance at a second hand store just two months ago. Cleaned it, played it and wow! it sounded great! What a great album.
Bought this on release , of course a major disappointment after Scary Monsters but you’re right Frank this hands down beats the CD , have you heard btw Hunky Dory or Ziggy Stardust first issues ? Truly amazing !
I have not heard those first issues, but I will track em down one of these days.
Great topic Frank. The price of vinyl nowadays has meant that I cut back on my purcheses to 1 or 2 per month. I still buy CD's because i want something tangible, but the artwork and sleeve notes on vinyl are just cool and really can pull you in. I cant recall spending lots of time reviewing my CD covers. I will always love records so thank goodness for your show !! Keep on spinnin !!
Good to hear from ya, as always, Graham!
For me it's a tactile thing. Dropping a needle in a groove and hearing such amazing sound quality with musicians that sound like they're live in the room...that's what trips my trigger.
TOOL's Fear Inoculum release is a masterclass in vinyl pressing. It sounds amazing and the dynamic range is far better than what's on CD. Plus! The clipping is gone on the records.
I too enjoy the ritual, Frank! Even fi I put a record on for the first time and it's a bad pressing, I still enjoy the experience of choosing an album and getting the record on the platter.
Thanks Frank
Great video I feel the same way .
I really love what you said about the ritual of hearing vinyl. I love that too, and I love the sound. But when you compare the prizes to the prizes s few years ago, it's insane. Some people realized that there is a lot of money to earn with vinyl. And some of us are paying every prize! When I look at the prize of new vinyl in the stores, the prizes have nearly doubled in the last 5 years. So I really think twice before buying a record, ore sometimes take the cd instead.
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You nailed it again Frank!❤There's an entire part of the music experience that people who aren't into physical media,vinyl in particular are missing out on.The artwork on albums is just fantastic.
Growing up in Canada in the 70s and 80s as a kid and adolescent I have a huge collection of classic Canadian lps that are pretty rare and I feel proud I'm also helping to preserve that music in some way.A great deal of this music has never been released on CD or digitized in any version on any streaming service.Think I should donate those albums to the Canadian music museum or something when I pass on someday just so they are preserved.
Be a shame to lose that part of our music history.
Let's face it. People are lazy. They want it fast, they want it now. Personally I enjoy the engagement of the music. Finding that one album....getting home with it....then finally getting to hear it. Be it a small setup or an extravagant one. Love it all. Right on man.
You were one of the first vinyl CZcamsrs I watched way back in 2015 when I first got into it. It's also nice that I gained some exposure to the music you like. I like all the details you can find on the run-out groove in addition to the center label and liner notes.
As a baby boomer I've been listening to LP's for decades, no one called them "vinyls" in the old days. Although more expensive than CD's, the inflation adjusted price is the same now as it was 30-40 or more years ago with the exception of special reissues, limited number, box sets, 180 grams, audiophile pressings, analog recordings and so on that have, for a long while, invaded this market, something I have the discipline to stay away from, I'm too frugal to spend North of a 100 + dollars for a single album, I don't care how many booklets are inside the box set. Thrift shops, garage sales and record stores also selling used ones are great places to find records at very affordable prices and I do visit them almost weekly. And yes, you are right, there is all sort of engagement in playing a record, from start to finish, something missing with CD's and streaming.
@@GLAMSUNSET87 It certainly does!
I am pretty sure the term 'vinyl' was popularized by DJs in the 90s, but I am not 100% sure. That said, I was recently reading some of my old rock mags from the 80s, and noticed on occasion, they referred to records as vinyl.
I agree with you , some albums are just outstanding. Like you I prefer the orchestra pit effect that only vinyl gives you. One of my favorite sounding albums is Neil Young's Massey Hall 1971 reissue. It is one of the best sounding albums , sounds like he is in the room . Can't get that from CD or streaming.
Thanks for another insightful video. I listen to a lot of big 1950’s to 1970’s big band and jazz on vinyl. Vinyl’s expansive soundstage and being able to hear individual instruments are the main attractions for me. Streaming on Spotify is a great way to find new jazz music, since there is only one jazz radio station in my area. I usually buy CD’s of recent releases. I agree that CD’s are a bargain now and they sound great.
I myself have slowed down also buying records. I still pick up new albums but have lately been trying to complete collections. You are right that David Bowie album sounds really good I myself have a for promotion only copy of that album. Keep up the great work hope you and your family had a good Easter.🤘😎
Thanks Chris, you too.
There is still something to be said for finding that photo, poster, inner sleeve, booklet or bonus materials in an album that you thought were LONG gone...Also, it's awesome to find that rare album or 45' and discover a long-lost b-side or album track that is just as good as the hit, although the hit is what gets played on the radio or included in compilations...Finding those "secret gems" is what makes this hobby so much fun for me! Lots of them out there, too! And they're not all on CD or on the streaming services!
Still collecting both Records & CD's. On one hand just got a 5 CD ELO/Jeff Lynn set under $10. U.S. & On the Other I just found a White Vinyl pressing of Trans Siberian Orchestra's 1'st record for $11. U.S. (It was listed as $22. but rang up $11.) Thank you Walmart!
Hi Frank totally agree with all your comments buddy I'm recently enjoying my CDs again since I bought a DAC and connected my Marantz player to that then into my Amp ,the sound is so much better than just using the RCA cables but I'm still a vinyl fan 1st & most.
Hi Frank. It was so nice to see Iron Maiden's Somewhere in Time. I have been a huge Derek Riggs and Eddie fan since I was a teenager. Every time I got a new Maiden tape I would look for Riggs' signature symbol and the black cat with the halo. You are right. It was pretty tough with the small picture from the tape cassette cover. Live after death is a cool one too. I love your videos. Keep them coming! LONG LIVE VINYL!!!
Good points, all true. I always kept buying CDs, especially now when they are the best bargain for physical media. I’m in FB groups and sellers put older ones up for from $1 to $3 apiece. I just bought 4 this afternoon that way. Vinyl will always be my #1 thing but for a stretched budget the CD still rules.
It's always looking for something people missed. As many as we save, old records are still being tossed every day.
True I'd wager 85% of the general public is not aware that Vinyl is relevant again .
Definitely can relate with the "Culture" point. I maintain a Facebook group for vinyl collectors in the Carolinas with 3k members, and we're able to have group events during RSD and organize around local live music events etc. as well, and just being able to share our finds and talk about the stores etc. as a community is such a treasure.
Hi David. I live in the Carolinas and am an avid collector of all things music. Do you mind sharing your info for your FB group?
Hey Frank, Love your channel. Glad to hear they are reissuing Quiet Riot II. Randy Rhoads is the reason I have been playing classical guitar for close to 40 years. Hard to believe it was 40 years ago on March 19 that we lost Randy. I buy more CDs then records because of the price. Keep the great content coming.
@Richard Hawkes That is so cool to hear Randy Rhodes got you playing classical guitar! I love Randy! It is a real shame we lost him so long ago. He was such a gifted guitarist. But with guys like you keeping his memory alive Randy will always be among us.
Rock on. 🤘Debs
RIP Randy. One of my all-time favs.
I mirror what you say exactly. Reduced my record purchases of older jazz albums because of costs. Glad I got back into it a few years ago when costs weren’t off the charts. Pick up the odd CD when it’s a fraction of the cost of the album. Sure glad I didn’t dump my collection 20 years ago. 😎
We’re doing what you’re doing Frank regarding vinyl and CD’s and for the same reasons. Years ago, when you bought a vinyl release, it was cut and dry. Now, you have to do your homework, ie-where it’s pressed, who mastered/remastered the record, how many grams(140, 180 or 200), how or where to get it, etc. Sometimes we felt overwhelmed and we stopped buying for awhile until just recently.
You may a good point - there are so many factors to consider nowadays.
I enjoy reading the album covers, looking at the artwork, extras that you find stuffed inside the album covers. ( no drugs or money yet). I found a letter that a 4th grader was going to send to David Cassidy.🤩
I got into collecting and listening to records earlier this year, and I love it so far! The stereo separation is more pronounced on vinyl.
I spent HOOOOURS obsessing on Iron Maiden records, love the sound of the needle dropping on the vinyl, takes me back to being a little kid listening to Dynasty or News of the World laying on the floor with my big 70s headphones on looking over the covers and liner notes, ive got to be honest im a little disappointed in the RSD Voivod angel rat packaging, no inner art or liner notes, if you are going to repress or reissue a classic and charge what they charged i think a little extra effort would go a long way, thats why i love the Faith no More reissues.
I definitely like the overall experience playing a record better in most cases. But I tend to only buy select recordings to listen that way. For me it comes down to the money and also the convenience of streaming, so I do stream a lot. But streaming does help me discover music that I want to own on vinyl. My hope is that they will still pressing more records due to demand and maybe the prices will stabilize or start to fall. Who knows? I never thought I would be listening to vinyl again after cd's came out 40 years ago.
I'm the same way. It is much too hard to que up those vinyl records on your portable record player as you try to scarf down a burger on a bumpy road in your beat to crap pickup truck anyway.....lol
Hey Frank, On the back of Somewhere In Time at the top right of center you will see a neon Texas Records And Tapes. That was an actual store in Pasadena Texas during the '70s and '80s called Texas Tapes And Records. The owner Jumpin' Jeff was good friends with Nico McBrain. That was the go to place to get metal imports. Cool video as always. Cheers 🥂
I didn't know that... very cool
I love the idea of buying vinyl. But, because of the problems you mentioned, I've cut way down. It's got to be a special album for me to kick out that kind of scratch if the cd costs 1/2 as much.
For a 'bad' sounding CD, in most cases it is down to the engineer who is mastering the mix that is used to produce the CD. I have a not really noticed the difference (but then I have a 36 band per side EQ) that all recordings go through
EQ and preamps really are the unsung hero in all of this! A great preamp can make even digital music sound much better and even vinyl like
Not all music was put on CD or on the internet. I listen to records and enjoyed every minute of listening.
Frank,
So glad that you posted this list of reasons, for your love affair with vinyl record collecting. I’m still a little traumatized from that April Fool’s video. 🤣
I love your channel and I always watch when you release a new video.
Thanks for tuning in -- sorry, not sorry for the trauma :)
Because we're suckers for vinyl! 😋 If οne can see it objectively, and as the vinyl prices are getting higher and higher, you can get the same album on CD for 1/3 of the vinyl price. But for the reasons you explain on this video, we keep on buying (mostly) vinyl. As long as we can, at least.
100% agree Frank. I also still buy CDs and tapes. Most of my purchases are records, but I still buy certain things on CD especially when the price of the record is three or four times higher. Rock on Frank!
I started buying/collecting in the early 2000's. And for me,its about having a physical copy in my hand along the many reasons you listed . But its the same way with movies and cd's and a good book.
couldn't agree with you more about vinyl....and something i noticed about (some) streamers is tat they pick and choose the songs they want to listen to, while ignoring the songs they should be listening to...the deep cuts are usually always the best cuts on any album and those tend to get missed, along with the sequencing the artist intended....and of course, the vinyl community...the best part of it all....hope you guys are all doing well...my best to sheri.....and my thanks to you my friend...peace and luv always...rocky
You make an excellent observation - by skipping tracks you cab miss the good stuff (not only the songs - but the appreciation of good sequencing).
Something someone (famous I guess) said during an interview on Nate Goyer's Vinyl Guide podcast, was something like..
I ACTIVELY listen to music on Vinyl when I sit, relax and enjoy music.
I PASSIVELY listen to music on CD or streaming whilst I'm doing jobs around the house.
That sums it up for me. All have a place, and all are for the love of music as a whole. 💜
Vinyl all day long,, but agree prices are making me cut back..And still quality control issues on a lot of new pressings.
I am also a CD guy and they do form most of my music collection. But vinyl records have their place in it to. I am not buying new ones but only old ones (60s, 70s - mainly - and 80s) that do not have a CD version (or the CD is less easier to come by) and that I consider are worth having.
So the thrill of the hunt makes an important part of the collecting thing and I experience it for records or CDs alike. I am constantly checking my want list on various sites to see how the price are going, how my waiting orders are going or if something interesting has come up.
In the meantime I just enjoy listening to music and as a challenge trying to avoid streaming as much as I can... 😏
I buy only new vinyl buy new artists. Because I’ve been buying records since the early 1970’s. But, I also stream a lot. Spotify.
The rituals associated with vinyl music are also intrinsic to the experience for me. I have long said that you listen to a CD/cassette/digital stream but you PLAY a record.
The only records i collect would be original pressing from the 60's and 70's to replace the ones that i used to have. Some of these records are sealed and have never been played.
I've also never stopped buying cds. I guess my only shift has been buying more used and being more picky with the price. If the price is a bit much for a used piece, I'll pass.
Why not? I’m going down the VHS rabbit hole now😂
VHS is the best quality of all time. They are keeping that from you because THEY want ALL the vhs tapes. Sounds crazy but true.
Totally with you Frank on listening to vinyl. Yeah I’ve bought tons of CDs over the years and during the late 90s /noughties when vinyl had almost totally disappeared but it was never the same for me. I now probably buy more vinyl than when I was a teenager but like you I need to peg that back a bit. I have a first press of Let’s Dance too and although my copy Is a bit worn I agree it sounds superb !
For new music releases, I tend to go for the CD version. I figure it was recorded digitally and the tracks were not arranged with vinyl in mind (louder and more dynamic on outer grooves, mellower toward the inside) so CD it is. Plus, agreed... money. I think you nailed it for a lot of us with the historical artifact aspect especially for older records. Hope all is well, Frank!
Cheers, Tom
Hey Tom, good to hear from you. You raise an excellent point, and one I don't consider often enough -- that being sequencing for vinyl. A huge difference from 35 to 40 years ago, vs today.
I've got my older cousin's 70s Black Sabbath: Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and also a new pressing. One time a buddy and I put them both on back to back and the old, thin but excellently maintained 70s copy blew us back Memorex style. Shockingly different.
I love the blind buy. Either based on the cover or recognizing the name of 1 musician in the band.
Still buy mostly vinyl. I listen to a lot of punk & other types of DIY artists & their LPs are cheap. The last 4 LPs I recently bought were all around $18 apiece. If I got them directly from the labels or artists they'd be cheaper, probably around $10-12 apiece. But a few are UK or European labels & shipping is insane so I got them from US sellers for just a few bucks more. That being said, if all these other bands & labels can sell LPs for as little as $10, the ONLY way to explain other LPs costing $30, $40+ is because of greed.
Well said, jesusgavemeaids. Paying over $25 CAD, or $30 for 2 album set new, retail, and after GST (tax) in Ontario, Canada is simply unreasonable. Yes, I think it's also about greed, too.
@@georgeanastasopoulos5865 it definitely is. That's the only reason I can explain such low costs from so many DIY labels & artists. & many of them are great quality, great pressings that sound great. Even though some of it is punk music, but punk isn't synonymous with "bad sounding or poor quality" recordings...like some people think of it as 3-chord simple music, but some is quite complex really.
Funnily enough Frank, when you held up the Bowie album, I thought to myself 'I've got a copy of that' So I dug it out and added it to my listening rail. As I did, I noticed a small sticker with the price I bought it for: £0.60 (app $1, or $10Cad - sorry couldn't resist) It's in pretty good nick, so I guess it's worth a bit more than that now, so some times you do win out. I also have a copy of Hawkwind's In Search of Space, which I was GIVEN complete with all the booklets etc and I saw that at £90 recently. That sort of thing is the exception for me however as the music does come first. I have some really old rough looking albums which I treasure and some which I have owned for nearly 50 years now. Also am enjoying things even more having just upgraded my cartridge to an Ortofon 2M Red. I am also biding my time on upgrading the Turntable to a Technics at some point, so the gear side is another aspect.
Enjoyed it as always Frank. Music first and no slave to the format is the way to go. Pulling my Let’s Dance off the shelf for a listen tonight. Thanks buddy
Great vid Frank. thanks for making these vids. Always enjoy them. All the best.
Glad you like them!
I started collecting vinyl since 2018, I believe I started just in time to get my most favorite albums. Now I can't find them at an affordable price, if and only if I can find them. I am waiting a pre-order item and that will be the end of vinyl for me. CDs has been my my favorite format.
I don't care if the cost of records go up, the main point as you said in the beginning is SOUND! I'm very addicted to the sound, and will pay what I have to to get it (within reason of course)! CDs just don't sound that immersive (my opinion) and are quite boring (once again, my opinion)! Gas prices have also gone up, but you gotta get around! OK, bad example! But you get my point! I'm on a fixed income, and go out of my way to get "that sound" , even if it means I have to go without something I need! I'm not a format snob either, I think it's healthy to have different OPTIONS to get music! So I guess I'm saying I'm going the opposite way your going and listening to more LPs than CDs! But I do download songs off streaming services to walk the dogs!
I saw Bowie live during the LET’S DANCE tour and the original pressing LP is nearly as scorching as the concert. So great example there, Sir Frank. Keep the vids coming and let’s see some vintage jazz hyped once in awhile.
I actually have stopped buying CDs. I agree with you strongly on many things. I also love the ritual of taking the record out of te sleeve,placing it on the turntable. I also like the hunt. I went to Record store day last Saturday and that was a lot of fun. Sound quality is also big, especially on ELO and Alan Parsons LPs. I've had some issues with a little semblence. Not real bad and not all ss's. The albums I bought last Saturday were used and I understand that might be the reason. There is something else that I noticed right away. On an LP, under the title of the song is the person who wrote the song. Not on CDs. As far as streaming, I think Alice Cooper said it best. "I think people got tired of buying air."
Lol. A week ago I watched a video by a British hi-fi store owner who listed all the albums he never wanted to hear again because so many customers brought them in to evaluate equipment. It must be a testament to how good it sounds, but Bowie's Let's Dance was at the top of his list. Appreciate the show.
Too funny!
@@Channel33RPM The YT channel is called Cheshireaudio if you want to check it out. I watched it again and realized that Let's Dance wasn't his #1 pick, it was the first one in the video at #5. His #1 pick was Dire Staits Love Over Gold.
If you want an audiophile quality pressing without paying an audiophile price, every collection should have a copy of Donald Fagen's - The Nightfly. Whenever I see a copy I usually pick it up. You can usually get it for $10, and it's a great listen.
I want the Buena Vista Social Club on vinyl. I received several vinyl LP's of Black Sabbath. I like the Black Sabbath vinyl because you can hear everything on it. It is fantastic!
Yep, the visceral experience is why I like vinyl. It’s always a more active listening experience and I feel more connected to the music because of that.
Love your channel I catch up with you every weekend I'm from Birmingham England and a huge fan. Keep up the good work 👍👍👍👍Kieron aka Mr 7 representing
Vinyls are a lot of fun. There's something special about the experience of collecting physical media. I know that vinyl records suffer from inferior sound quality and they don't have the best longevity but it's still worth it to collect them, especially for historical purposes.
I agree with everything you said here, including cutting back on new purchases due to rising costs.
You gotta cut back on purchasing copies of Spreading the Disease ... :)
Vinyl collector who lives in Bali Indonesia here. I love imagining who has owned my used records, where the albums traveled, and most of all what in the hell made someone sell their very good plus 75' original pressing of Physical Graffiti !! Lol
Good stuff Frank
It’s not just the sound of the vinyl but like you said the artwork too. Maiden as you showed is a perfect example as their artwork is fantastic. I have slowed down my purchases though as the government here in the uk is crippling us with rising prices on everything 😡
I still love my records but I find myself buying mostly used or older records over new records. I prefer older music but used records are cheaper and usually sound better. New records are too expensive, especially audiophile records. The quality control is still an issue as is poor mastering. I’m also still buying CDs. I almost never stream and when I do, it’s SiriusXM radio. I tried Spotify and don’t like it for many reasons. My main issue with Spotify is the fact that they use re-recorded versions of songs. The other issue is they list multiple versions of a particular song but no matter what version you select, you always get the album version. I dropped Spotify after the free trial ended. With my CDs, vinyl (and I even collect 8-tracks), I will always hear the version of the songs I want to hear when I want to hear it, even when my internet is down.
Yes, I will sit with the album cover and inserts in my hand while listening to the music. Also great to hear songs in the order they were laid out in, on the vinyl.
A lot of newer records are recorded digitally(Mofi), older ones are analog of course (pre 1980s) the prices of new records have increased quite a bit, used records as well, cds are still available and more affordable, some cds have a good quality sound (use a quality DAC), and some cds sound horrible, so you have to hunt for the good ones, lots of used records and cds out there, the hunt is a lot of fun and more when you find a real good one! Thank you for your videos Frank keep'em coming!
About 90% of the vinyl that I purchase is vintage. The new vinyl that I do buy comes from local stores. I really trust the pressings coming in from Germany and Czech Republic. Right now the Europeans are pressing vinyl the right way. The best part of discogs is I can find some older OOP LPs at as decent price, titles that have not seen the light of day on CD.
The two best pressing plants in tne world are located in the United States. Quality Record Pressing (QRP) and Record Technology Inc. (RTI.)
I’ll buy all media still. But my online experience has soured. And I will be buying less that way.
I think a significant amount of eBay and Discogs dealers suck at grading. Around 40% of the records graded NM /VG+/VG that I’ve bought online, are graded notch up, of what they really are. On top of that, around 15-20% of the records receive some damage during shipping, because too many sellers use record mailers that are too thin. And they don’t reinforce them with additional cardboard. It’s fairly simple to add a little more support, to help insure the records arrive safely
My point of contention is that streams are not always available that my convenience. I’ve had some “vanish” off the web. That’s no problem with vinyl or CD.
I've lost interest in vinyl now. I enjoyed buying albums I had on cassette and cd, either secondhand or new between 2016 to 2020, but the more I found the less success I had with finds. Plus the cost of it all is too much now! I have most of my cds back now but I only listen to them in my car, once I get another car there won't be a cd player in it. I did think about buying a cd player for the livingroom, but I gave up on that idea for now. I tried Spotify in 2020 and I use it daily, it's great value, contains thousands of albums I enjoy, and I can discover new music easily, and I love creating a new playlist.
For me vinyl records are the best experience of music at home. But for another reason not mentioned here. The memories. I remember when I bought every records including CDs but don't ask me if I remember what was the first mp3 download I did, I don't remember the later.
Very good point. I remember where I bought most of my records and CDs as well.
@@Channel33RPM I forgot to add the first time I dropped the needle on each albums and listen them the first time and the emotions it made me feel.
All good points. I am pleasantly surprised by record collectors who didn’t grow up with vinyl. Another big attraction for me is nostalgia. In particular, I used to covet the import section of record stores but could never afford the much higher prices when I was younger. That also meant not buying albums that were only available as imports (I grew up in Toronto but listened mostly to British punk, post-punk and New Wave. Today, through the “magic” of Discogs, I can compare listings from around the world and pick up the best-sounding copies of albums that I am replacing (Canadian vinyl is usually meh) or adding. German, UK, and Japanese pressings, for the music I collect, are the ones I target.
All the work is worth it. And if you go to a concert to meet your favorite artists and you get an autograph, you can't get an autograph on a streaming service.
Because we love it. The demand is there and in a struggling industry someone needs to step up and supply, in fact, do better than that and promote the availability and purchase of music on vinyl. We’re telling them to take our money, so they need to find a way.
PS thanks for the Bowie tip I’ll swing one back at ya: Meshell N’degocello’s peace beyond passion. Stunning!
Cool... I will check out that album. Cheers.
I agree with you for the most part, Frank! A thumbs up for sure. 🔉🎵🎶
It forces you to sit down and appreciate the album instead of doing 50 things at once because of our phones
I just love listening to records and reading the liner notes and the artwork as well. Plus records are just fun, dropping the needle the spin and the sound. I love my Amazon stream service instant access to huge catalog of tunes. I still have CD's but rarely play them along with a small collection of cassettes. But taking the time to sit and listen to records is much needed down time to relax and enjoy old and new tunes.