Wire Ferrules - BEST Amp Connection - WHEN TO CRIMP!?
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- čas přidán 5. 06. 2018
- Wire ferrules are a thin copper tube that is tin plated and they really help to clean up our car audio installs and make them more robust. With a wire ferrule we can prevent wires from fraying, we can easily un-install and re-install the wire multiple times without issue, and the wire ferrule securely attaches to the wire in our amplifier or processor. But when do we crimp ferrules and when can we use the amp terminal to crimp them with the set screw? Let's find out!
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Thanks for the sourcing. Very helpful.
I just got a system but would like the best 4 gauge wire I can find, I'm new to this stuff and had the system installed but feel I should use a better cable
Where is the Colored plastic part of the ferrule shown in use ??
I'll tell you one great thing about wire Ferrules. They actually saved my amp from getting stolen. They were yanking on the wire and still didn't get it out of the Amp. Took my sub but lucky I was using a temp sub. I'll never go without them.
That's awesome!
Love it lol
Morning i am using a jlaudio system which includes a12w1v2 sub, one pair of C2650x coxial speaker ,one pair of C2650 component speakers, one XD700/5v2 amp.i want to find out what should be my frequency settings on my amp for the door speakers? Thks Donald.
@@donaldrattansingh7578 I have almost the same setup except I went with two pairs of the C2 Coaxials
@@donaldrattansingh7578 Try 80 HZ high pass.
WOW! I just installed an amp in my boat and then saw this video. I really hated the way the amps set screws damaged the wires. I had a defective amp and ended up removing and reinstalling many times and the wire kept getting damaged. I pulled the amp one more time and installed ferrules on all power and speaker wires. I never knew ferrules existed before this. Such a clean and professional look.. Thank you!!
You posted this video right after I ordered a set of ferules for my 5 channel amp, validating my decision. After finishing the install yesterday, I must say, I’m never going back! Ferules for the win!!!
Just ordered my 4 gauge ferrules, gotta do things properly now we know how to. 👍🏼
Did this for my current build because of your videos....ssssoooo glad I did. It has made dealing with wire so much better. Thanks for the videos.
This video single handedly upped my game. My install looks so clean it's scary! Beautiful connections! Thank you so much. 2 DB55s, 2 USS 8", 6 6.5" DS18 Pros, 4 DS18 Tweeters, 2 3.6" Kenwood, 2 Infiniti 6x9s, 2 JBL 6x9s, 2 8" K9s in a sealed box. Thanks again!
I have been recently watching a lot of videos on car audio, upgrading the factory sound in my 22' Telluride from the pretty unimpressive system it came with. This video was probably the best one to just make the install look cleaner. I ended up ordering the kit through the link and it is so much nicer having those little metal end caps crimped onto the wires than constantly re twisting the bare copper ends anytime I remove a wire to check something and have to get it back into the LOC or amp.!
Thank you for all your videos! This one helped me a lot to make decent connections to my amps. As you know, we all are not professionals and your videos gives us just the info we need. So, thanks again and keep doing the good job there!!
this is a real car Audio education. Mark you have come a long way bro 💪
Still my favorite wiring video you have out. I REALLY need to get that crimper and Ferrules
Ordered and used a crimper set after watching this video, works great. I think of all the years of not having this, what a waste.
Thanks for your videos.
You are quickly becoming one of my favorite audo installers. You and steve meade are so informational, it's great. I still don't understand the concept of setting gains/EQ and finding distortion/clipping, but I'm just gonna have to sit down with some SMD tools and read the manuals I guess before starting my next build.
Nah bruh waste of money on that bs oscilloscope is all you need a dmm with oscilloscope
Love these videos. Setting up two car amps and want a nice clean install. I remembered this video and came back to watch what was used to terminate the wires. Wire Ferrules. Putting a Amizon order in tonight.
I actually just did my first install and I used ferrules on all my wires 1/0, 4, 14, 16, and 18 awg. I had all insulated ferrules and I would slide on a heat shrink wrap then the ferrule then crimp the ferrule on the side closest to the insulation with pliers (either needle nose or a fatter grip for the big wires) then slide the heat shrink back up just over the insulation and heat it up for a tight fit. This gave a clean result for me and the wires didn't have any issues going into any of the holes.
Thanks for suggesting the ferrules. They offer a professional look and give a low resistance connection. Also, there are ferrules that crimp the barrel, behind the contact that fits under the set screw. This style keeps the contact round, doesn't flatten it out. I don't know, however, if they are made for wire that size. You are definitely a pro!! Thanks!
Wow - thanks for this video! I'm about to set up a system this weekend and this is going to make it a hell of a lot easier!
I discovered these a couple of years ago and used them on my last stereo install. Did it old school and these helped make the connections much more secure and cleaner looking. I enjoy Steve Mead's videos and am surprised I've never seen him use them, with his overkill wiring, you'd think he'd like a good connection at his wiring blocks.
Well done for spreading the word about ferrules/boot lace crimps! I have been using them for years for electrical / electronic work . The one thing I will say is it didn't look like you had stripped the wire quite enough , the wire needs to reach the end of the ferrule as demonstrated on the first power cable otherwise when you screw down the terminal it only catches the ferrule and not the wire , after a couple of wiggle the end off the ferrule will break off!
Mind blown! I hadn't even considered pin ferrules on speaker wiring. I use them on electronics projects and will start using them on my speaker wiring. Much easier than soldering the ends. Thanks!
I have not had a chance to really use these yet but I did buy some because of this video and I am 99% sure I am going to be very happy I did
I broke down and picked one up, absolutely love it! Very shot learning curve!
Thanks! You save my life with this. Bought a Rockford marine amp and I was racking my brain trying to figure out how to get that 2 guage wire to fit in those little slots on the amp block! Thank you so much for posting the link as well!
I thought I knew a good bit about car audio... but every turn in this video I learned something completely new 🤘🏽👌🏽
Mark, I have to say, these ferrules are great! I tried them recently to install an extra battery for a friend and the cables look neat, coupled with a heat shield under the hood they look fantastic! Also, they hold on the strands so well it's hard to pull the strands out once they are crimped.
Been looking for one of these kits, not doing pro install currently but always prefer proper wire termination and connectors. Good to have in the toolbox.
Thanks
Great video. I need to add these to the wires going to my Pioneer Amp in my truck.
Dude...your a mind reader! I just ordered some of these for my subwoofers. Going to order some for my amps soon!
Thanks for the excellent video! Love ferrules & am surprised that more folks in the US don't know about their uses & how essential they are. Have been using them recently on some projects including my outside AC condenser unit. In other countries, but not in the US, in 120V/220V applications, it is against code to connect stranded wire to screw lug terminals, as it will result in splaying of the strands resulting in a poor connection (wires mashed down & not all strands making a good connection). I installed a SureSwitch contactor to replace my standard contactor in my AC unit. It has screw lug terminals & I used ferrules to make the connections. Even though the connections were round, I still believe that there is better contact than using bare strands. As others have pointed out, there are crimpers that make a hex crimp instead of a square crimp to better fit in round terminals.
Great video! Some folks in the comments recommended tinning the wires. DON'T DO THIS! That would be unnecessary and indeed a bad thing. A good crimp connection is gas tight (sometimes referred to as a "cold weld"). There's nothing to gain in using solder. Tinning the cable instead of crimping would also be bad practice. "the reason this is so is that the differing thermal expansion rates of copper and solder cause a problem. The solder in the tinned wire end expands more than the copper (brass) terminal and a big peg in small hole causes the softer metal to yield (it gets softer with increasing heat as well). When the temperature drops later the parts contract again but now the tinned wire end is smaller than it was and causes a bad connection." (Wire termination for screw terminals. (2014, December 29). RepRap)
Not if you twist the stranded hard and go heavy with the solder. Then file the end down to make a perfect hard cylinder with copper exposed from filing. I'm using number for so there is room for expansion inside the poor and the screw I tighten it every two weeks and it's embedded in the end. My way gives a direct contact between the wire and the brass port. For extra measure I wrap electric tape around the cable ends where they go into the ports
Gas tight, you're funny.
Thermal fatigue.
OMG I just started using these things, they are awesome. I haven't yet tried the crimp tool yet and would love to pick that up. But man I wish these things were around in my time when I started car audio. Love these Farrell's!
Newer subscriber, love the speaker terminals. Doing a new install and looks much better, thank you for the video
Awesome video! I just ordered the same set and got it the other day. Was going to use on a upcoming install and I used a paint marker to color one black and red and it comes out looking great.
This is a great idea, easy and simple. I have always used solder to tinned the wire ends with my handy butane soldering iron for car installs, just had to be careful not to make them too fat.
Indeed. Tin the stripped area and insert under the set screw. Ferrules are a little cleaner.
Opening up worlds, thanks Mark!
Thank you my friend I didn't know the ferrules very useful
I like that you used the word "thus" very nice vocab
3:50 thanks man. This was a slight nuance that I didn't understand in your install video. This makes sense after you explain it, i thought it needed crimping.
OH THATS WHAT I NEEDED. !!!!!!!......that process of shoving wires with no crimp was such a head. i did what you said had to cut it agian cause it was so mess up
Love your video! OFC, Wireferules etc. installed! looks clean, doesn't oxidice and low resistance across my system
Thanks Mark, And Congrats on your wedding, I just ordered the tool and Ferrules, had to get different 4awg Ferrules though, the one on your link dont ship to Canada.
I used "1/0 to 1/0 Input Reducers" in my install for all of my 0 gauge. They're similar, just slide the wire in, tighten down the allen screw and add heatshrink. I should get some ferrules for speaker sire, remote wire and such but I think they're more necessary on larger wires as they are usually harder to fit into amps as most don't have true 0 gauge inputs.
Thanks for this video, I’ve had many cars and wired amps/subs over the years on my own. I have never realized these existed until this video though lol. It’s the simple satisfying things like these I love. I love a clean installation and always hated the frayed wiring. Just ordered some.
Dont know why, but seeing your ''wire job'' is soooo satisfaying for me! haha. theyre so clean!
Great video! I’ve been hoping you’d do one on this subject.
Great video! Gonna get some added to my amp asap
And here I was looking for a crimp tool that would do 1/0 and 4awg wires… little did I know, I could just “crimp” them in the very terminal of the amp for a clean and round result!! Here we go let’s install!
You always take things to the ultimate level, when I think I’ve done a good job you show me excellent new ways all the time.
I used those ferrules for the same type of Phoenix connectors on A/V controllers. So when I installed a new system in my truck, I used them for the remote wire and monoblock for my sub. Need to find a couple for the 4 Guage power and ground wires.
That tool is amazing I def need to get one, so clean on the instal and I love how you can disconnect and re connect over and over.
Love this videos where I keep discovering new things about car audio
For amp power and any screw only type connections, the ferules do come handy. For the square type I tin the end of the wire and that makes for a strong solid connection that I can insert
emove multiple times.
Got mine ordered, thanks for the tip
exactly what I was looking for thanks
Subbed so hard it shook my windows! Seriously though, just subbed because you’ve taught me a lot in last 2 days. I really enjoy your delivery. I’m getting ready to do a full install in my 2014 equinox and your dad’s series of videos are really helping me out with what I’m about to dive in to. Thanks my man!
Thanks for this video brother! I had no idea these were even a thing. My install is so much cleaner now!
Glad I could help!
Great video just what I needed on a rewire. I have a rewiring nightmare
You can also use removable banna plugs for speaker wire connections depending on the wire and terminal gauge on amplifier. I use banna plugs on my 2ch amplifier to feed my full range speakers.
Recently bought a wire ferrule kit and crimped all of my wire ends. Much neater look.
Hey mark, I strongly recommend using a light around of copper antiseize on the bigger amplifier ferrules. Sometimes the connections can seize inside the bore after the set screw forces the O.D. Of the ferrule out and the copper will prevent that and promote conductivity.
Genius
I didn't even know these existed. This is awesome. Thank you!
thank you ..thank you ..thank you.. thank you ..ive been going out of my mind not knowing what i have been doing wrong
This guy is a teacher.
I got that look on my face
you are the man, this channel is gold!
Excellent. Very helpful video. Thanks for sharing.
Neat connection looks beautiful.
Great subject to cover there Mark! Glad to see this episode. Thanks!
Thank you so much for all of your videos, they are so helpful. I deal with a stereo, then years go by and I dont do anything, so I forget whatever Ive learned. I was trying to figure out how I was going to crimp 4 and 8 gauge wire using the crimping tool Your video helped me figure it out.... you dont use a tool....lol
Awesome. Always look forward to stepping up my audio game without having to do some backyard hack. I know nothing, absolutely zero of audio. Question arise like, are there subs a amp can’t handle, what a good size ground, what method have to done to create a ground without making a mess, what gauge wire works best with certain size speakers. I just want clear loud music. Not much of bass or tremble but a normal amount is good. Not a subwoofer kind of guy. More race track. But I will definitely navigate through your channel. Thanks
is audiocontrol available in europe? i could buy them just for their beautiful design, simple and elegant.
072621/1304h PST 🇺🇸 Thank you for demonstrating the crimping tool, Ferrules and its salient features. Additionally your instruction, where, NOT to use crimping tool. More so, was your introduction to, two new (new for me) systems viz: ACM-1.300 and LC2. I found those 2 units more intriguing. Will research additionally.
I have placed order for the Crimping tool set. My DIY hobby entails the usage of this tool for PV environment etc.
Thanks again and stay safe. 73s…
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Tell audio control to start manufacturing the Esp2 again!! One of the best high stage devices I have ever owned... still have mine in my truck today!
For us (me) less familiar with determining the gauge of a wire. If the wire gauge is not identifiable on the wire itself, is there a tool you recommend, so the proper size Ferrule is utilized? Or, is "by eye" the go to method for this technique. Appreciate your informational videos!
I've always soldered my ends to keep from fraying and a nice looking shrink wrap makes a clean install. I have done it that way since I started audio installs back in the late 80's early 90's. I joke about the amount of lead I have inhaled over the years. Back in the beginning it wasn't common to get cable like is used here until I started using welding cable. Now it's easy to get but we used to get monster cable that was no where near as flexible. I'd run welding cable in the unseen and then the nice looking on the amp/fuse fascia panel.
Billy Beane the main issue with that method is soldered wire is hard as a rock and it doesn't smash properly. Your not going to get the most contact area that way. Does it make a big difference? Any difference? I don't have the patients to test such things.
Billy Beane I use to tin all wire but I've seen solder break on thicker gauge wire... so I only tin speaker wire and Primary wires now
I would put it in the terminal, crimp it, disconnect, solder, then put in permanently. Takes a little more time, but adds insurance and may improve conductivity.
I tin the ends as well. Basically free way to prevent the ends from fraying. Never had an issue with it.
Ask an electrical panel builder what they use. Those dudes have to deal with code that is far better designed for superior connections and they use FERRULES. Not back woods soldering of the wire tip. That's an old school old man way. Get with the times.
Another great video man. I will definitely checking these out for a more professional look
excellent stuff. great knowledge and advice.
I love your videos Thanks bro! Awesome! Likes & subscribed
Great job many thanks for the great video 👍👍👍👍👍👍🌹
Brilliant! The answer I didn't know I needed.
Outstanding work! I've been an electrician for 40 years in many different forms. I'm an FAA A&P mechanic and hold an FCC GROL to service avionics. I've designing and installed home and automotive security systems. I've worked commercial and residential electrical work. Both high and low voltage systems. I've repaired autopilots inflight. Several times.
And I'm happy to say I've learned several new techniques here. Really cool.... Thank you!
Man this dude right here taught me a lot of things. Thanks man!
Very helpful. Must drop a thanks.
I've never seen these before, pretty cool.
Hello, I found your videos very interesting and insightful. Could you please make a Video series for Beginners , I mean if someone just wish to change their factory fitted speakers with a Coaxial set of 4 or 2 how should he go about it, please
Hey Mark, there’s a round crimping tool out now. Well, it’s more of a 6 sided thing, but it’s not square.
I'm gonna be redoing my car soon and I'm for sure going to use will ferrell's😁
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wow that help a lot and protect from any short
Dude I like your channel ! Learning a lot !
The crimpers are also made to make a hex shape rather than a square. The work better on the round "sockets'" (or holes) instead of using the lug to crimp the ferrules.
Excellent video Mark. Can you give us the link for the cable stripper as well.
Those are called "Phoenix" style connectors :) They're often used in Pro Audio and high voltage amplifiers.
Shit. Was going to say exactly that lol
Very common in any kind of industrial power supply. They're real nice especially as you don't need any special tools but you still have a connector instead of lots of individual terminals
Or euroblock but same thing.
europe has been using them for years, they are great in PLC's and MCC's
My favorite thing is the plebs on Reddit suggesting ferrules cause bad connections. It's incredible the information people are willing to spread without knowing much.
i actually use copper tubing for this purpose, been doing it for years but glad to see someone finally put the idea to use
I actually like your idea more. The idea of using tin plated copper just doesn't make sense to me when I'm spending so much money on a 100% pure copper wiring
Yeah copper tubing is the way to go. Solid copper and not just flimsy tin.
sensational ... but I always stuck right on the wire I see that the transmission of electrical energy is more efficient ...never dropped any installation !!!!!but this plier is sensational congratulations on the work
Recently came across your channel. Subscribed almost immediately. I love what you are doing. I just had a, thought would it be feasible to use a large single strand wire more like what is used in industrial type work? I think it would work if secured properly to keep vibrations to a minimum, as I think with too much movement wire might crack. Just thinking out loud, what are your thoughts on this? Of coarse I am talking about power and ground wire for amp and whatnot not for speakers.
Thankyou for all the great info. Andrew
Ive got a quick question can you use the ferrules on OAWG power cable going to a battery positive clamp. I have an audison SBC-41P positive clamp. Will it hold as well as you have shown in your video when connected to an amp? thanks in advance and keep up the great videos!
I work at a wiring harness facility and we have a ferulle crimper with a rounded bottem theres one that does the 20 to 20 gauge sizes and one for 12 to 18
I bet theres on out there for 4 gauge too
Love so your videos man, have a question do u have any builds on fox body mustangs?
Thank you. I will be setting a trend in the HVAC community. Wire ferrules all dey.
Same as, all day every day. Especially in for S & Y plan systems. In states pretty much anywhere other then solid core wires ✋
Very cool could have made my life a lot easier 20 years ago when i was a sales rep for Kenwood Military Sales!
thanks i was getting ready to do some audio on my harley and looking for some ideas