A lot of these guys are former Military aviators, some of them used to be fighter guys, they are good at nap-of-the earth flying and following ridge lines
That's awesome! Would you be okay with me featuring this in my series Weekly Dose of Aviation? Of course you will be credited both in the video and in the description.
leonjones12 no but in flight they don’t do much. They handle the radio which isn’t necessary over fire or not as much. Even if it was that’s not bad and still gives you time to be on your phone to film something like this
@@cantfeelthis3288 not true, copilots do a lot, they have to make the job easier for the captain so he can think clear about the flight and potential issues. By the way filming an approach with your phone is forbiden in commercial flights but some pilots do it (like me lol)
Yeah the way he turned slightly right. Then flew in a straight line. And then he reached his hand down, and expertly pressed the button to drop the water. You can tell they are real pros lol. They deserve medals for pushing that button.
@@FlightData101 Just over 30 degrees, which is the norm for loaded firefighting aircraft. They can bank up to 40 degrees with caution from the lead plane.
So cool to see these old Avros being used to fight fires. You guys work in Utah any? I've seen some orange and white avros flying around as of late. Cool stuff.
I expected to see a drastic change in attitude when they dropped, but couldn’t see much change. Was wondering too, guessing fires like this are restricted areas, and ATC has to clear them to (I heard him say “on approach” when nearing the blaze, I think) the actual fire area? Because otherwise you’d never see another plane coming at you opposite with no visibility. Very cool piloting.
@@chesterwang3070 attitude. I’m a student pilot, so I do know the difference. Guessing there would be altitude changes too, but was most interested in what it does to the attitude suddenly losing that weight which is affecting the center of gravity, thus attitude.
Shader26 Yes, you would normally on a smaller plane see the pilot aggressively push forward to prevent a large pitch up as the retardant is released. This looks like a much larger plane, and I'm sure the pilot felt it, but the video just doesn't capture the dramatic reaction as you expected to see. Regarding TFR,s these are Temporary Flight Restrictions put up by the FAA in response to this firefighinng flight activity. The FAA works with whomever the agency is, who is in control of the fire fight. Might be Bureau of Land Management (Dept of Interior), or the State Firefighing folks. Might by USDA if it's a National Forest. They all seem to have a hand in these fires. You as a pilot are supposed to get that information from NOTAM's before you fly. You might also get them from the Flight Service Stations when you get your briefing prior to flight. This page has some good information about them. Point is, if there's a fire and it's being faught, you can bet there's at least as 5 mile perimeter that you are supposed to remain clear of. They typically go up to 5,000 AGL or more. And yes, there's someone on the ground directing the tankers into the location to drop. You can hear him ask, "does this look good?". He's talking tot he guys on the ground. disciplesofflight.com/tfrs-flying-in-fire-season/ Fly Safe. Former T-38 IP, Beech King Air IP, C-130 Aircraft Commander.
@@shader26 This should be happening in airspace G though, right? I don't really know the US airspace structure but I'd guess it's airspace G. I wonder now if they do the whole flight VFR or if they cancel IFR and pick it up again later. Maybe there are special procedures in place I don't know of? The "on approach" might be a warning for the firefighters just as a last check with the guys on ground to make sure no one is standing in the danger area.
TexasGTO It is very effective. Using on-ground firefighters to fight larger wildfires like these are incredibly dangerous and it takes a long time to defeat it. However, using aerial firefighting is much more efficient and it is easier to reach more remote areas like you said. However, it does take a while to load the planes with fire retardant then for them to fly there, on-ground firefighters have a much faster response time. Aerial firefighting is mostly used for larger and more deadlier fires (take, for example, the wildfires on the West Coast of the US).
Enough - not as much as some mainline guys but probably as much as the more senior regional guys. Just about everybody comes from a “normal pilot” background.
Tried to simulate this in MS2020 today. it was good except for: WHOOP WHOOP TERRAI TERRAIN. BANK ANGLE BANK ANGLE, PULL UP PULL UP, DONT SINK DONT SINK, PULL UP PULL UP, WHOOP WHOOP
Interesting how the co-pilot, during a low-level high risk drop over mountainous terrain at dusk, takes the opportunity for a quick cell-phone video. ;-)
@@ov10bronco9 You are absolutely correct. Well spotted, and thanks for the update. You must be one of our brave aerial firefighters? Much respect to all of the folks who risk it all to keep us ground-pounders safe. 😁👍
@ov10bronco9 At 0:15 after for the entire time the copilot is in the frame possibly until the drop the copilot has a cellphone up taking video or photos. On final for a drop _at dusk_ is NOT the time to have your phone out. Who’s monitoring the target altitude? Who’s calling out airspeed deviations? Who’s watching for snags just in case capt gets target fixation? Screw that. I’d hold the load until he put it away. RTB for a debrief if it happened again. Stick a go pro on if you want to be an influencer.
these pilots are freakin rock stars
Totally disagree. Look at the copilot. No care for his job or the lives below him. It's just a photo opportunity. Pathetic
Those pilots are actually pilots, I did some background on the video and neither pilot are in any sort of Rockband.
@@KC_FlightChief well then...there you have it
@@jpsearching yeah bc captian is flying ? plus his cap allowed him to take photo
@@jpsearching they prolly need that photo at debrief, who knows?
The most important thing to take note of in this video is the effective use of mustaches by the crew.
Me looking at the thumbnail:
"Why does that firetruck have an altitude indicator?"
sama anjim
Why is that fire truck 200ft in the air?!?
@@sayidinamaliquealaqsha8270 emang dia ngerti lo ngomong bahasa kita?
@@K2KOfcoursegg ngertiin aja
@@sayidinamaliquealaqsha8270 makanya kalo belajar inggris jangan kabur kelas
When you were denied in the military but still want to do close air support.
A lot of these guys are former Military aviators, some of them used to be fighter guys, they are good at nap-of-the earth flying and following ridge lines
@øranuto husband how is that soy boy you pepega?? Only clowns go to the middle east thinking they fight for freedom or some shit
@@7invader soy consoomer
@6 6 "I'm god" Yep that's enough I think
@6 6 Obvious troll is obvious.
I wish the video was longer could sit here and watch countless drops love it
That's some genuine, red blooded, hot rod, piloting shit right there. Noble work fellows.
That's awesome! Would you be okay with me featuring this in my series Weekly Dose of Aviation? Of course you will be credited both in the video and in the description.
Hey
No
1:00 - DAMN! That banking sight is *phew* awesome.
Lmao at the copilot filming it on his phone.
Haha thought the same. But he’s just the co-pilot doesn’t have much to do when in flight. Also great material for the next family reunion haha
@@cantfeelthis3288 That's really not true at all. You think co-pilots just do walkarounds?
leonjones12 no but in flight they don’t do much. They handle the radio which isn’t necessary over fire or not as much. Even if it was that’s not bad and still gives you time to be on your phone to film something like this
The guy filming is the flight engineer.
@@cantfeelthis3288 not true, copilots do a lot, they have to make the job easier for the captain so he can think clear about the flight and potential issues. By the way filming an approach with your phone is forbiden in commercial flights but some pilots do it (like me lol)
Dang good pilot, jockeying that jet around like it’s a Mooney.
Right, like how he yanked the yoke left to roll wings level. I saw that too. Epic.
True!
czcams.com/video/Dw0wY6SgG2w/video.html
Awesome. I love stuff like this. If I had my pilot's license, this is what I would do. That or serve people in some other way, like Angel Flight.
Yeah the way he turned slightly right. Then flew in a straight line. And then he reached his hand down, and expertly pressed the button to drop the water. You can tell they are real pros lol. They deserve medals for pushing that button.
Nice to see the that the BAE146 are still being flown and used!
Yep, my son flies them for Neptune!
Great video - Also, thanks to the pilots for all that you do.
You’re welcome 👍
BAE-146s going to good use. One of my fav aircraft!
0:45 Sound of increasing power of the engines. God damn!
me and the bois cleaning up the gender reveal party
You blokes are AWESOME !!!!!!
Australia NSW RFS firefighter 👩🚒
1:06 That bank angle, though
Maybe 30 degrees, not exactly doing aerobatics.
@@FlightData101 Just over 30 degrees, which is the norm for loaded firefighting aircraft. They can bank up to 40 degrees with caution from the lead plane.
@@FlightData101 Far more than you've ever done, armchair pilot.
So cool to see these old Avros being used to fight fires. You guys work in Utah any? I've seen some orange and white avros flying around as of late. Cool stuff.
thought is was an avro!
"Pull up! "Terrain, Terrain"
I can't say I have ever seen a jumbo jet used as a bush plane. Amazing job!
This is not a jumbo.
It's the BAE 146 "baby jumbo"
That is the sickest office I've ever seen
Awesome perspective! May I feature this low pass in one of my next episodes? Of course with a link back to your original video. Cheers!
I didn't looked for this video but I still watched it
Its a beatiful Avro RJ! So called Jumbolino
nicknamed your sister that way, she loves it.
Jumbolino Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ❤️️
It appears to be a Bae-146, a version that preceded the Avro RJ.
There are those that can...and those that comment on CZcams.
I love the Bae 146!
Is this the legend that handles a 737 like if it was a fighter plane and takes out the fire?
avro*
not a 737 this one has 4 engines.
Yes, Avro RJ-85 or BAe 146-200s, as the earlier models are known. The sound and the 2x2 rows of engine instruments for the 4 engines are unmistakable.
that's not a 737 it's a bae 146
Yes, only this is a BAE 146
this is neat af
Great Job! Thanks too You all out there!!
Piloting the mini 4-jet must be a thrill... Like being a airforce bomber pilot but close up to your target...
Great to see an RJ100 still earning it's keep :)
Definitely a 146, no FADEC, so not a RJ.
That's a first view at that angle for me. Epic.
Captain: Hold my beer
Heroes!
love these guys up there
I expected to see a drastic change in attitude when they dropped, but couldn’t see much change. Was wondering too, guessing fires like this are restricted areas, and ATC has to clear them to (I heard him say “on approach” when nearing the blaze, I think) the actual fire area? Because otherwise you’d never see another plane coming at you opposite with no visibility. Very cool piloting.
shader26 attitude or altitude? They are two different things.
@@chesterwang3070 attitude. I’m a student pilot, so I do know the difference. Guessing there would be altitude changes too, but was most interested in what it does to the attitude suddenly losing that weight which is affecting the center of gravity, thus attitude.
Shader26 Yes, you would normally on a smaller plane see the pilot aggressively push forward to prevent a large pitch up as the retardant is released. This looks like a much larger plane, and I'm sure the pilot felt it, but the video just doesn't capture the dramatic reaction as you expected to see. Regarding TFR,s these are Temporary Flight Restrictions put up by the FAA in response to this firefighinng flight activity. The FAA works with whomever the agency is, who is in control of the fire fight. Might be Bureau of Land Management (Dept of Interior), or the State Firefighing folks. Might by USDA if it's a National Forest. They all seem to have a hand in these fires. You as a pilot are supposed to get that information from NOTAM's before you fly. You might also get them from the Flight Service Stations when you get your briefing prior to flight. This page has some good information about them. Point is, if there's a fire and it's being faught, you can bet there's at least as 5 mile perimeter that you are supposed to remain clear of. They typically go up to 5,000 AGL or more. And yes, there's someone on the ground directing the tankers into the location to drop. You can hear him ask, "does this look good?". He's talking tot he guys on the ground.
disciplesofflight.com/tfrs-flying-in-fire-season/
Fly Safe. Former T-38 IP, Beech King Air IP, C-130 Aircraft Commander.
@@shader26 Ok, you probably know much more than me, I'm too young to even fly a glider lol.
@@shader26 This should be happening in airspace G though, right?
I don't really know the US airspace structure but I'd guess it's airspace G. I wonder now if they do the whole flight VFR or if they cancel IFR and pick it up again later. Maybe there are special procedures in place I don't know of?
The "on approach" might be a warning for the firefighters just as a last check with the guys on ground to make sure no one is standing in the danger area.
This is amazing. Thank you!!😂
sheesh that must be a weird feeling flying directly into a fucking mountain like that
Man....Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 absolutely crushed it.
i wonder what the passengers were thinking
Badass!
These guys are heroes
When you are zonked out doing daily commercial flights for an airliner, life is good but....
Very cool video.
What a cool job
great video what asked the person who shot video if it's possible two video the tank delivery system if that's not classified?.
Great aviation skills. Balls to the walls on that climb out. 👍🏼
This is fucking awesome
Awesome
The new Flight Sim DLC is looking lit.
Closest thing we'll get to a strafing run
Some really good aerial views of Portland.
nice work boys
judging by the jet engine sound and there being 4 engine gauges they are in a
BAE 146 firebomber
Coolest job possible.
I love how there's no explanation of where this is. Looks like California but really who would want to know?
He says "This is Cal Fire Bird". Pretty good indication.
@minphox its definitely not 2019
RJ85. Nice aircraft
True heroes
You are hero’s... bottom line . God bless you
Oh my god 😳
God love them !!!!
Wow...that was danger close...
Nice
Look like a post apocalyptic scene from a film.
BANK ANGLE
are they flying IFR or VFR?
I like these graphics. Kinda looks like Battlefield 5
they are real heroes
Heros 🙏🏼
do you have gpws off from the circuit breakers?
Flying School Complete!
DREAM JOB
Well I suppose the positive thought to this is that when all the trees are burnt down, we can use these planes to drop beer at festivals....
How effective is aerial firefighting? Biggest benefit is dropping into remote areas?
TexasGTO It is very effective. Using on-ground firefighters to fight larger wildfires like these are incredibly dangerous and it takes a long time to defeat it. However, using aerial firefighting is much more efficient and it is easier to reach more remote areas like you said. However, it does take a while to load the planes with fire retardant then for them to fly there, on-ground firefighters have a much faster response time. Aerial firefighting is mostly used for larger and more deadlier fires (take, for example, the wildfires on the West Coast of the US).
Hands on throttle controls at all times fellas
no thats only for takeoff and landing -
This isn't a video game😂
This isn’t a Cessna 172.
God damn fucking heroes
Heros!!!!
CCRP would help a lot here.
How much do they get paid? are they once was a "normal" pilot? or specially train only as firefighter pilot?
Enough - not as much as some mainline guys but probably as much as the more senior regional guys. Just about everybody comes from a “normal pilot” background.
@@1Gaumer Thanks for the info!
....that looks like an avro rj cockpit.....i had n idea they had any of those set up as tankers
Dream job, and i cant even fly
Real heroes
The panel looks like a MD-80. Not saying that’s what it is, just looks like it
its problaly an avro rj100
@@general9212 correct!
4 sets engine gauges I think
I agree. I worked MD-88s and that is the same looking engine display panel just two of them...
Do yourself a favor and watch this whilst Fortunate Son is playing.
That'd be a cool job to have.
Huge huge balls on all of these pilots
Tried to simulate this in MS2020 today. it was good except for:
WHOOP WHOOP TERRAI TERRAIN. BANK ANGLE BANK ANGLE, PULL UP PULL UP, DONT SINK DONT SINK, PULL UP PULL UP, WHOOP WHOOP
Bad ass
Interesting how the co-pilot, during a low-level high risk drop over mountainous terrain at dusk, takes the opportunity for a quick cell-phone video. ;-)
Thinking the same, no bueno
Interesting how that was filmed in the jumpseat, not the copilots seat. You can see at 0:45 a view of the copilot and pilot
@@ov10bronco9 You are absolutely correct. Well spotted, and thanks for the update. You must be one of our brave aerial firefighters? Much respect to all of the folks who risk it all to keep us ground-pounders safe. 😁👍
@@k9er233 nope, just want to be one
@ov10bronco9
At 0:15 after for the entire time the copilot is in the frame possibly until the drop the copilot has a cellphone up taking video or photos.
On final for a drop _at dusk_ is NOT the time to have your phone out. Who’s monitoring the target altitude? Who’s calling out airspeed deviations? Who’s watching for snags just in case capt gets target fixation?
Screw that. I’d hold the load until he put it away. RTB for a debrief if it happened again. Stick a go pro on if you want to be an influencer.
inb4 Lucaas puts this in WDA
OH My
Heros
flying right into hell
that's just a lot of fire, now b-17 pilots during ww2 where flying right into hell.
I can't tell if that's a jet or a helicopter
Thank for kill fire.
Looks like an Avro if I am not mistaken
💪🍻🚨🚒
i wish this was my job
Heroes
What plane is that?