Sir Jean de Carrouges | The Last Duel | A True Story
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What's up guys, it’s Ollie from History Profiles and today I will be taking you to 14th century France where the last trial by combat would take place. The Trial by combat was an ancient method of Germanic law to settle accusations in the absence of witnesses. This would result in a duel between 2 single warriors and the winner would be proclaimed to be right. During the life of the warrior Sir Jean de Carrouges, he would live though many wars and campaigns, being the veteran of many battles. For he lived during the time of the Hundred Year’s war, and need it be said that it was a time of betrayal, strife and blood lust. He would be immortalized for his deeds in life, but mostly for the final trial by combat to officially take place in France, the circumstances that lead to this duel have gone down in legend. This is a tale of two fierce friends and how jealousy, lust and pride would result in death. This is their story.
watched the movie last week. definitely the most realistic duel I've ever seen. absolutely gorgeous duel. after the duel the way they treat the loser was really, really shocking
I mean they were ready to kill a woman too, and the way they said they would... by lashing and being paraded naked with an iron neck and then burned alive...so I mean compared to how she would have died if he lost, his death wasn't that bad. 😆😆😆😆😆
@@scrapefrenzy if he truly loved her he would allow sir jean to kill him to save her such a fate however her denial of his truth may burn that bridge...levels to this 1 =]
If we did that to rapists today, the number of rapes would fall
@@bbbbBEOTCH very good point. Guess it wasn’t love it was only lust
Well, he was a rapist. And her death would have been hideous had her husband lost
Easily the best film I have seen in several years, far better than recent Oscar winners and a truly outstanding performance by Jodie Comer. I hear it's a flop at the cinema. Guess it doesn't appeal to the Marvel Universe crowd.
Nor does it appeal to the pretentiousness of the Academy. A strong contention for the Oscars had it been before the SJWs took over Hollywood.
Agreed. Amazing film, awesome story telling and incredible action. Even my old lady enjoyed it.
History enthusiast here. I can tell you that I know of a lot of people were turned off by 'artistic liberties' that Scott took that was shown in the trailer.
I watched it tonight, it was AWESOME. I streamed it in Big Screen for the Oculus in a huge virtual theatre. I had 15 people join in and watch it. It was great.
its also the middle of a pandemic and people are looking for escapism and fun.
Damm Jean still fighting at sixty-six is crazy 🤯. He was real veteran out there on the field still mad respect
This could all have been avoided if the mother-in-law left a couple servants behind to look after Jean's wife.
Or..if his wife wasn't raped!!
I was thinking the same thing.
why would she make such a risky story up?
Thank you so much for watching !!!
They would have been killed.
Ridley Scott seems to be fascinated by duels! The Duellists (1977), Gladiator (2000) and now The Last Duel (2021).
Kingdom of Heaven (2005) too.
He’s a one trick pony
He seems to enjoy releasing them about 20 years apart as well
Good vs Evil Right vs Wrong Justice vs Injustice. Yea that's life kids
He should make one about david & goliath that would be perfect before he leave us
God I never felt my heart beat so fast at the end of the combat scene in the movie...felt every emotion Jean was going through during the trial...I was pleasantly surprised that he won at the end and died a warriors death...great narration and explanation in this video...thoroughly enjoyed it, thank you 👍
The duel was surprisingly accurate. Really great film. Adam driver (character) was a scum bag.
@@Z-Mikes00 I know right I had to step away on some scenes like the rape scene was a little too much
Thank you so much for watching!!
Definitely especially reading this before the movie my heart was pounding in anticipation haha
@@karltee7862 I’m reading the book first too before the movie. Lots of history and background
A life that is worthy of being immortalized in song, poem, paint and film.
And don't forget by none other than matt damon and Ben Affleck lmfao. Sorry I couldent resist.
@@johncopenhaver4477 thats hilarious
@@johncopenhaver4477 hey, they did ok. Even with an America accent and a mullet. ;)
@@judowrestlerka why they retreading 🤣🤣🤣🤣 whyyyy
@@sondra768 that mullet was legit!!
I saw this film a few weeks ago and was emotionally drained by the story and the way it was acted. A profoundly moving performance from Matt Damon. It’s the emotional attachment he had with his character that was so moving. Matt has a wonderful way of never seeming to over act. His performances are always so beautifully understated. This particular story was excellent and I think exceptionally done by all cast of actors. A really good film I recommend everyone to watch.
I was super excited when I heard they were making this iconic moment in history into a movie. I really enjoyed your retelling of it. It was a crazy time to be a woman then, I admire Marguerite's courage to speak up.
It was a crazy time to be alive then * (:
I can’t believe her husband believed her!
@@kathymyers7279 Same I was shocked about that too!
@@kathymyers7279 That was the genius of first showing the story though the husband his eyes. You feel like; ah that is a coincidence, everyone leaves and you let a man in the house, sounds like cheating.
Later if you look through the eyes of the woman you almost get the feeling her mother in law set this up and left so she would be alone.
yea, also to be a man
This was super interesting and is such a fascinating story, thank you for sharing!
Thank you so much Mort!
@Con Minder depends on where you're from. I mean we all equally use stupid words but here in new england. This was wicked interesting.
I was surprised by how much I liked this movie. Lots of great little moments of snarky, wordless body language between actors that are all great friends in real life. The way Jean gestured to his wife in front of the crowd after his victory hinted at his growth as a person quite well. The final fight scene had me on the edge of my seat. I like how they showed the series of events from different perspectives. Ben Affleck looks totally different as a blond. Matt Damon with a mullet absolutely killed my soul, I couldn't stop cringing lol
Ridley Scott did such a disservice to Sir Jean, portraying him as totally aloof to his wife. He was the epitome of chivalric honor. May God rest his immortal soul.
But when you see the story from Sir Jean's perspective he is more kind and attentive with his wife however when you see it from Margherite's perspective he is less romantic and rude with her. At the end, he was a warrior who defend his wife's honor and his by defeating and killing the aggressor.
@@Yawar1986 Ehhh, I wouldn't exactly agree...
Y'all are making some pretty unreasonable assumptions about the historical Jean. Of course the movie is fictionalized, but it clearly portrays Marguerite's version of events to be the most accurate. If you think a grizzled, war-vet, disgraced patriarch would have been "the epitome of chivalric honor" and some kind of perfect gentleman to his wife, for which he was given a dowry of land and a promise of heirs, y'all aren't reading the 1300's room. EVERY instance of non-consensual sex is rape, and in the film, while it's clear she was only ever loyal to him, when she said she couldn't come to bed due to her rape, he insisted. This being right after he was choking her out. She did not consent, but he forced it. Jean is also her rapist in the text of the film. Not nearly so violently or terribly, but undeniably.
@@KoolWithAQ It seems a lot of people would like these "heroes" of old to remain the versions told in stories. However, anyone that has delved just a bit into history knows these versions are often horribly misrepresentative of the person. Yet, due to them being the victor, they romanticize them beyond truth. Who wants to read a dry, boring account of yet another horrible man that is wrought with ptsd from being a career warrior who abuses women as they were often abused in the time? It would be horribly repetitive and leave nothing to aspire to, or learn from. Human behavior is messy and grey. You can't bring nuance to stories unless you want them to be thousands of pages long. So, you make things black and white to keep people interested and so the plot is easy to follow. People who want there to be an absolute evil, or absolute good, are exactly the people Count Pierre was talking about, albeit with a very disgusting agenda.
he was a man in the 1300’s of course he was also sexist and didn’t care about his wife
Thank you so very much for such an excellent video! The Tale answered every single question I had about this remarkable event; The research you did was/is first class and your presentation...Fantastic & I shall DEFINITELY be seeking more videos from HISTORY PROFILES!
Thank you so much Pierre! It really means a lot !!
Excellent description of the events. I feel that Ridley Scott stripped Sir Jean of his noble heart and presented him merely as self-interested. Surely he was defending his own name, that is natural. But there's no reason to suggest that he didn't truly care for the honor of his wife. After watching the film with my teenage sons, I will recommend this video to them as the real story.
on your blue pill fantasy, Le Gris die for a false acusation and greed, even today we keep spinning the lie, sense when woman has the concept of honor?? Le Gris an accomplished social man losing for a battle hardened poor deluded simp.
@@antoniolima1068 we can't look at the event with today's event.if was she lying would be burn at the stake
Thank you for watching! And also thank you for the recommendation to your sons! It means a lot when people share the video!
Nicole Holofcener who wrote the third part of the film (marguerite perspective) seems to have decided that Jean de carrouges was an insensitive man who lacked empathy for his wife, I have tried to find has many archives of the time as possible about these events and I could not find any that confirm that Jean de carrouges was a jerk to his wife,
Quite the contrary, he believed her and He had a warmer conversation with her before the duel. He went back to her without needing the king to remind him to go look for his wife.
@@antoniolima1068 I wonder what did she plot to gain that was so valuable that she would be burned alive if Jean lost??? Not like she would be killed for cheating on Jean.
i about spit out my coffee when he says the wife would've been burned at stake if Jean lost. talk about high stakes.
I wonder if the saying has anything to do with that lol
I see Jean as a hero of this tale alongside his wife Marguerite. His wife's tragedy did shape his pride to have more respect for her, especially after the duel.
Jean was a idiot for listening to his wife she knew that she was lying but yet she decided to continue it seeing how far she would get look what it cost her her husband's life a few years later
@@brianlamar5235why you say that his wife lying?!
I noticed that too! Especially in the scene where she's holding her baby right before they have to leave for the duel, and she tells him that she wishes she hadn't said anything because now their kid might become an orphan. It's like he finally realized that the lives of his family were more important than his honor.
@@brianlamar5235 She lied and risk being burnt alive. That's the dumbest idea ever.
@@philosopheriq2856 did you not pay attention to the movie?
Thank you for making this. Exactly what I was looking for.
It was a great story! I enjoyed very much Ollie. Impeccable work as always! Thank you
Thank you so much ElKE ! Im so happy you enjoyed it!
@@historyprofiles
Very welcome! Always enjoy your great uploads. Thank you
keep this channel going, I love listening to these stories before I fall asleep
Thank you so much! It means a lot!
Great video and historical recount. Jean de Courage was an incredible warrior and justly earned his surname.
Thank you so much for watching!
Absolutely loved the video, thanks for sharing and the hard work that went into it!!
Thank you so much for watching Miguel!
The worst part about the small deceptions in the depictions of Jean, is the fact they tried get away with, he dies shortly afterwards and she never remarried. Didnt they have another child and it was like 10 years? hardly a woman who was oppressed and hated her partner
Great video! Just saw the movie 2 weeks ago. Super excited that you did a video about him! Love your channel 💗💗
*the last duel gets more tight than i thought. down to the lines!* it's pretty fun. gr8 vid. -JC
Thanks for the upload. I love mediaeval history..the crusades and all to do with this period of time. Great images. I wonder what it would have been like to live back then .
Thank you so much!
Share your fascinación, won't like to live it though, for most people life was hard, brutal and short, even for royalty.
crappy. It would have been crappy
Ollie you're absolutely remarkable!! Thank you for another extremely interesting case!! I so enjoy them!! Again thank you!!
Thank you so much !!! It means a lot !
@@historyprofiles You are sooooooo welcome 💗💗💗💗
Very interesting video . I really enjoyed watching it .
the fact that he was in his late 60s during that battle...man. That was his life.
Smashed the like button now time 2 kick back and get stuck into the video as always thanks 4 the quality content 👏🙂
Thank you so much Annie it really means a lot!!!
1386 is a heck of a long time ago🤔🤔 nice soundtrack used as always *THX Ollie* for your hard work
Thank you so much miji! It means a lot !
we arent much different from the people who lived back then.
@@michielvdvlies3315 in terms of brutality, no.
But i'd say despite it's many controversies (that also happen today), was that those times peopel had more sense for duty and honour.
Dude literally risked his life in order to defend the honour of his family and the word of his wife, if you don't find that romantic something is wrong with you.
Watched the movie and it's amazing. Absolutely loved it.
I still need to watch it !
Thanks for the great video!
The way you told this story... the tone of your voice... the music... I felt as if I was there! I'm a bit squeamish... so it was difficult to take... but I was spellbound! I think Jean was a brave man who was very emotional. Those poor horses!
Hiya Ollie, Thank you for this great story. I'm going to watch again. 👌❤️
Thank you so much for watching Ann! I’m so happy you enjoyed it!
Great narration Ollie
Thank you so much V P!!!
Thanks for that mate! Very interesting. Would definitely make a great movie if done right.
Thank for this unbiased, comprehensive & succinct video. This is a fine companion to #thelastduel
Just discovered your videos. Love this type of content.
Thank you so much! It means a lot!!
Now I want to see the movie. That was a great story. Thank you
Matt Damon. Opening today Friday 15th
Excellent Work!
Aloha 😊🤙🏼👏🏼
Thank you so much for watching!!
Amazing, Brave man, Thank you
Really glad to have found this CZcams channel after watching the recent dramatic film about this event. Looking forward to your other and future content of other history profiles!
Thank you so much Zach! It really means a lot!!
Absolutely loved the movie, and was stunned to see exactly how faithful it was, stellar video!
I enjoyed it as well. Only thing is I kind of wished that Jean de Carrouges would've been portrayed as more of a hero lol, he was honorable but he was still portrayed as a bit of a dick. Call me corny but I like my movies to have a hero to admire
@@tomoates8568 I didn't really perceive him as heroic in any way. Frankly, he was presented almost as a secondary villain in the movie, an imbecilic grunt who's prone to anger and who forces himself on his wife immediately after her sexual assault. Margueritte was the heroic protagonist, but Jacques and Jean were both pieces of shit. I thought that really gave the movie a lot more nuance. Me and my girlfriend actually found ourselves hoping that somehow both of them were going to die lmao, so the finale text card was the cherry on top
@@simonriley4131 yeah, I got that sense as well. I was just saying I wish he was portrayed as somewhat of a hero because without him being the honorable hero the movie is kind of left without one. I don’t see margarette as a hero because she’s portrayed as the victim in the movie, so even though she is a good person she’s not the one who had the power to fight for justice. She needed her husband for that
@@tomoates8568 why would you want someone who is very much not a hero be portrayed as a hero? Make it make sense
@@sola_a Because it's a movie, and the events in the movie are based on an event that occurred in history but it doesn't make that movie an accurate historical depiction. If I had to guess the film's accuracy to the actual events that occurred, because there's no way to possibly know, I'd probably guess it's maybe 2 percent accurate at most. So why not use the creative liberty to give the story a hero?
Well sir u got yourself a new sub! I'm excited to see what else will come
How could again miss the story 🤔.Sometimes i don't get no notifications but i saw it now 😁better later than never .Thank you dear Ollie ❤❤for such an interesting story (as always )and your effort🙋♀️😘
Thank you so much for watching!!
Great story!
Very well narrated.
Thank you very much. 👍
Thank you so much Chris !
SO EXCITED FOR THE MOVIE! I read about this and it's absolutely fascinating. Because it was such a HUGE deal at the time when it happened and so many important people went to watch, we have more written contemporary accounts of this event from people who witnessed it than pretty much anything else from that time in history.
The actress playing Marguerite is very good and seems to be perfect for the role.
U guys watch it yet?
@@beesonbandit6639 unfortunately not yet, haven't been able to. Have you seen it?
@@beesonbandit6639 Not yet, it premiered here just last week, looking forward to watch it tomorrow or thurdsay.
@@aimeelynne7372 I have, I really enjoyed it, the duel was intense asf
I thoroughly enjoyed the movie. Thank you for the historical context.
Amazing story~ thank you.
I was desperately waiting for the 4th act- The truth according to the mother...where she goes and convinces Adam Driver to plant the seed in her daughter- in- law while her husband was away, since he could not provide an heir. It was all the mothers idea. Was it not odd that everybody including the servants were out of town, but only the wife was home.
I disagree.
Dude! I totally thought the same thing. That cruel bitch totally could've set the whole thing up.
@@chad_artiaga12 why??
Yesssss I was waiting for this too
Just saw this yesterday. Was an interesting way to spend 2 1/2 hrs.
Yes, great movie, I just thought that the half visor helmet was very dumb!
Oh damn this dude is mad active and interactive
This channel will go far!
Great video liked and subscribed.
If it wasn't for Sir Jean de Carrouges bravery, love, devotion and chivalry to country to God and to his wife his wife Marguerite would have been just another victim, today this it has morphed to the Me Too movement. Sir Jean is a true knight.
The movie directed by Ridley Scott was absolutely fantastic. Such a good movie. The acting, the story, the screenplay, all superb.
You just earned yourself a new subscriber! Awesome Video!
I’ve never been so anxious during a fight scene. The stakes of the duel were so high and I did not know how it would end. Great movie. Tragic story though and crazy how things worked in the times of the movie
Belter video. Cheers
Thank you so much for watching Alex! Your comment really means a lot !
Just got back from the movie and really enjoyed it. This history video was so fascinating.
Thank you so much! It really means a lot!
This is an awesome story. Will definitely watch the movie now, but I don't think it will be this good. Good job, Dude.
The film is actually really faithful to the story told in this video. You get to see three viewpoints from all three main characters of the same story. The viewpoint of Carrouges himself was almost identical to this video. It really has a different (and very possibly true) feel when you get the wife's perspective, which tries to imagine the viewpoint of a woman at a time when women's viewpoints were totally ignored. I think the movie was great and in the end you can choose to stick with whichever of the three versions you want. But all are worth watching and thinking about.
Nice video, good bgm and narration
What an amazing film, only Ridley can produce such an amazing period piece.
And yet it completely fails to excite anyone. As opposed to Kingdom of Heaven, or Gladiator.
@@gr1mrea9er82 What a strange assumption to make and then state it as if it's a fact, especially since it's not true.
Out of all the interpretations of this story, this is the best. Honestly I hated Ridley's portrayal of the events and how he ultimately made Carrouges look in the end. All in all a courageous man who fought many battles.
But still a solid and nuanced interpretation compares to many other history films
Hollywood for a woke agenda made him look like a bad husband. In fact he lived another 10 years with his wife and had a family.
If you read the book you'll know that Carrouge was kind of a dick..just a fact...
@@t.j.payeur5331 I'm you would've cancelled every medieval man that ever lived back then...
@@odedns you think men in the 1300’s valued women????
First time I've watched your channel loved it subscribed
That's an awesome story, look forward to the movie
Thank you for posting historical aspect of this story. I must admit that I find the story so griping I'm about obsessed with it as rivalries in medieval times seldom reveal a strong woman willing to endure such reprisal for standing against a noble since her assault was considered a offense against her husband.
Thank you so much for watching Evelyn!!
Magnificent story.
Stay tuned for tomorrow!!
great rundown
Stay tuned for my video this Thursday! Thank you for watching !!
Incredible story! THANK YOU!!!
Thank you so much for watching! And for the nice comment! It really means a lot Christopher!
@@historyprofiles New sub, baby! 🖖🏽
@@ChristopherNealBUSHIDO49ERS thank you so much for subbing man!
This such an Interesting story
I hope you enjoyed the video!!
Ahhhh! THAT is a very gratifying relation, sooth to say, of a valiant Knight defending his Lady's honour.
Well done! HooRaw!
thank you for sharing
What a fascinating life of this Knight, thank you for sharing the real life of this hero
Thank you for this intriguing, interesting and uresolved story. In thoose very religious times it was unthinkable for even the lowest to lie before dying.
At battle at Nicopolis under command of noble and wise hungarian king Sigismund Crusaders had stronger (better) army but lost precisely due to french knights who wanted to attack first - to take the glory and attacked with heavy cavalry fortified turkish positions and had to dismout horses and proceed on foot - which is the worst use of cavalry. So sad as it was the only battle that Christians had the upper hand against the Turks for centuries and no help ever came from the west.
when without gun the war is the art, less destruction of city and infrastructure. martial art and medival war is hard training army
At the same time, the ideal of Chivalry was born in France several centuries before.
Undermined by the economic difficulties of the 14th century, losing its hegemony on the battlefield, chivalry gradually crumbles and loses its substance. This decline is reflected in the wear and tear of chivalrous ideals, less and less observed, by great cruelty in battle and an unwavering nostalgia for the chivalry of yesteryear.
Unfortunately, it was not pragmatic in the case of Nicopolis, but it was like that.
This one the most interesting historic story i have ever heard, great video and the information on the duel was written in great detail like you were in a front row seat! Question is why hasn't this become a movie yet?😳
It has. The movie The Last Duel is at theaters now... Or did you mean why had it taken so long to become a movie?
The movie is based on the book that was released in 2004.
@@csfischer007 ok cool thx, i will be checking that movie out!😎
@@csfischer007 by the way i wasn't sure before and you just confirmed this to me by saying this was a movie this must be why the night looks like Mat Damon (duh momment for me)! 😂🤤
I didn’t even know Matt Damon was in it when I went to see it and even without the helmet it took me way too long to realize it was him lol. He has somewhat of a mullet and it just didn’t click that it was him.
Btw, I went to see the movie not knowing anything about what it was about. Only after did I start investigating more about the real story. It sounds like the movie stayed pretty true to the actual events.
Cool Story yo. Thanks for sharing.
Good stuff!
What a Warrior,
G-d bless the memory of him; snd thank you for retelling his tale of Bravery and honour.
G-d?
The heck is G-d?
He died a knight’s death in combat at age 66. Im pretty sure that’s how old Ser Barristan was in GOT.
I hope you enjoyed the video Colin! Stay tuned for my video on the Viking Canute the great this Thursday !
Awesome story!
Amazing. I watched the Film by Ridley Scott and I must say that it stayed true to history for the most part.
I will be watching this film soon!
What's the name of the film
@@GoopieScoopie the last duel! Release date is tomorrow in UK not sure worldwide
@@shaybamiah8840 it's comes out tomorrow it looks like a must see
SAME!
Ollie, well done!
Amazing story. Thanks
Thank you for watching glen! Sry tuned for my video this Thursday!
The film was so so amazing. Loved it.
I didn't like the format of the three chapters, living through the story twice more. It was a good movie.
The Last Duel was a facinating movie, really entertaining and well filmed. I suggest people go and see this Ridely Scott film while you can. We loved it, more entertaining than the Bond movie, and it is based in history. True heroics.
cool vid Olly enjoyed it
Thank you so much for watching Jamie!! I really appreciate the comment!
@@historyprofiles your welcome mate
Thank you for the content. I couldn't get through that movie.
Stay tuned for my video coming out in a few hours !
They should probably make a film about this
Lmfao
They did!
Legrisse was a lying scumbag who committed perjury with his last breath.
I like that Jean valued both the women he married, and his late son, and was willing to fight for Marguerite when Legrisse defiled her. Marguerite was also pretty brave for being able to tell Jean about what Legrisse did to her instead of bowing under his threats.
Yeah I agree! Thank you so much for watching!!
Wow, any lady of that time would feel proud to have such a brave, honorable man as Jean as their husband.
Ottomans: I’m Gonna end this man’s whole career.
@@rhaenyralikesyoutube6289 Ikr? The fact that he really went all out against his friend turned enemy to defend his wife shows how much he loved her.
@@CuteDwarf11 if only it played out that way in the movie. the last like 30 minutes or so of the movie tried so desperately to turn it into some toxic masculinity thing. throughout the movie, i didnt get that vibe at all, i thought she was on his side the entire time because they were telling the story together. but in just one scene, which really felt out of place, it felt as if they wanted to make it seem like he wasnt fighting for her honor but for his own "foolish pride," make it seem like she was the only one with anything to lose if jean lost. the one scene kinda hurt it for me, but it was still a fun popcorn movie
Great video and narrative ,👍
Thank you so much for watching!!
Thank you my friend for your great video
Brilient!
Totally watching this so I know what the real history The Last Duel movie is based on.
Thank you so much for watching!
It wasn't actually the last authorized judicial duel in France. That happened in July 1547.
Thank you.
What an awesome story man
Mais oui, Jean est prononcé Jon. No problem. We accept both ways.
HP you are great. So is your channel.😘🕊
My bad 😂 thank you so much for watching!!
Im surprised to find a person who has never heard of Jean Claude Van Damme.
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Yes. And also captain Jean-Luc Picard.
And is the “s” pronounced in Le Gris? I thought it was silent.
@@sarahewson3607 silent indeed
I watched the movie today it was excellent
I still haven't watched it yet Adela! I will soon! Thank you for watching the video! I hope you enjoyed it!
This movie is really really good, I am ashamed I didn't see this earlier, everything in the 3 different scenes is different when you really want to pay attention to it, loved it, I really want to see more movies like this, and please never let the historical drama die out, we have too many superhero movies, it's time to go back to the epics.
Epic - looking forward to the movie now ⚡️🌈💥🚀
So I spent some time reading some primary and secondary sources in French (all from before the 20th century to avoid biased bullcrap like Jager) and came to the conclusion he didn't do it, which seems to be the consensus among sources that talk about the case.
Basically, the most likely scenario is that the woman was indeed raped, but not by Le Gris.
She told her husband when he came back home from Scotland and he used that to shit on Le Gris that he had been hating for a few years due to envying him for various political reasons.
It must be noted that Carrouges was an extremely violent man who had apparently beaten his first wife to death. And his second wife, Marguerite, wasn't an old stronk woman like in the movie but actually a meek and very young woman.
So basically Carrouges forced her to frame Le Gris and despite Le Gris being found innocent in several trials, he managed to obtain a duel by whining directly to the King's parliament.
While on the ground and about to be finished by Carrouges, Le Gris swore his innocence (instead of confessing like people usually did before execution) with God as his witness.
Several sources mention that some years later, a man sentenced to death for another crime confessed before his execution to be the one who had actually raped Marguerite de Carrouges.
It's also mentioned that after her husband's death, she spent the rest of her life in a convent instead of remarrying (despite being still young) to attone for the fact she had framed an innocent.
Source: That 1858 French history work on the topic on judiciary duels in France, that uses all the contemporary sources that treated the topic (Froissart, Jean Le Coq, Juvénal des Ursins, Chronique de St-Denis)
If you can read French (page 128 to page 148):
www.google.fr/books/edition/Le_Combat_judiciaire_en_Normandie/H1hiAAAAcAAJ?hl=fr&gbpv=1&dq=%22Jacques+le+Gris%22&printsec=frontcover
can we get a french speaker to confirm this? I’m beyond curious id this guy is legit.
@@eugeniobonello418 its legit. the movie was good but heavily biased. they were going all out with making marguerite the heroine. epic fight scene ar the end.
Thanks for this comment. It`s really interesting. I hope, someday we will see that version of story.
I doubt she lied. The historians are wrong on that one.
@@crystalmiller1997 Like I said, she was definetly raped. Just not by Le Gris