Jupiter II Walkthrough
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- The Jupiter II class spaceship was a 6 man vessel built to transport colonists to nearby star systems such as Alpha Centauri. Its design borrowed heavily from the earlier Jupiter I but by making use of the new quantum contradimensional deck compression technology the Jupiter II was able to squeeze 2 levels into the 6' tapered space below the flight deck. The galley, dormitory and ablutions were moved down to the new living deck, freeing 3 bays on the flight deck that could now accomodate a lift down to the lower decks and 2 more banks of freezing tubes making 6 tubes in all, enough for a family. Below the living deck the service deck contained the reactor chamber, exit corridor and landing gear.
Space was also found to accomodate a launch bay for an exploration pod capable of scouting planets from orbit, a garage for a chariot that could be deployed down a ramp upon landing and a station for one of the newly developed (if somewhat twitchy) B9 environmental control robots. The living deck also included an observatory and laboratory.
The gravimetric drive was upgraded to achieve near lightspeed, bringing journey times to local star systems down to a few years. Too late it was discovered that the new design when exposed to deck compression was prone to the Allen-Kinoshita gravimetric malfunction effect, whereby sudden loss of cabin pressure could, surprisingly, cause the engine to enter a "hyperdrive", propelling the entire ship in a random direction at many times the speed of light. The first-in-its-class Jupiter II was launched in 1997 and it is believed that just such a malfunction could have been responsible for the Robinson family and their pilot Major Don West all getting hopelessly...
LOST IN SPACE!!!!!!
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The exterior profile is based on the sleek hero miniature with an outer diameter of 49 feet, resulting in a total height, landing gear retracted, of 17 feet. This is slightly larger than the main studio set at 43.5 feet seen in every episode, or the huge 40 foot diameter Jupiter II prop on legs first seen in S1E02 "The Derelict".
The interior decks are based on the main studio sets and their original blueprints where I could find these online, and I watched the first five episodes a lot, which was fun because they're the best. Hence the muted colour scheme. I like silver.
My version most resembles the first season Jupiter II except where I really liked the look of a later season feature or my inner engineer took over. The Jupiter II was protean, its layout and instrument banks changing form and function between seasons, episodes and sometimes even scenes. Part way through the 3rd season a little used door on the flight deck was revealed to lead to a small hanger for deploying a landing pod, never mentioned before during 61 previous episodes.
The original un-aired pilot (rushed out by Allen to sell the show to the networks) had a blank cockpit but in the improved broadcast pilot it was revealed that a pilot's chair folded out plus two instrument panels. A second pilot chair was added in the second season so that John and Don could sit together and the old chair hole was filled with a new instrument panel featuring a jazzy Moiree fringe radar display, meaning the folding chairs had nowhere to stow. As an engineer this annoyed me, hence my own cockpit design, never seen in the show.
Some might argue with the garage on the grounds that the chariot is stowed disassembled, but on the original plans for the 40 foot Jupiter II prop Irwin Allen had included an actual working ramp down which the chariot could have been seen exiting the saucer, but it was never built in. The corridor I have leading to it from the lower deck was a part of the actual set and can be glimpsed in some scenes.
The part of the ablutions segment containing the ultrasonic laundry and hand basin was built and is sometimes visible between the bedrooms. The toilet and shower are on the original plans behind a folding door but were not added to the set. Maybe they were for the Italian version.
The power core and its approach corridor is based mainly on S3E10 "The Space Creature" with the spherical reactor chamber from S1E12 "The Raft" plus some Taurean/Seaview detail I liked.
I considered extending the lift down to the service deck so that the robot could get out (like it is seen doing in S2E03 "The Ghost Planet") but then I reckoned it would still never get down the steps so why bother? It can use the chariot ramp.
There is no cut-away view because contradimensional compression distorts the cross-sectional perspective such that all who behold it go insane, something I learned the hard way. Wibble. - Krátké a kreslené filmy
I would love to see a exterior version of the ship view that was in scale to what the interior would require.
Proving once again that the Jupiter II was made by Timelords and is bigger on the inside than the outside.
I just saw something on another video that said the original ship was supposed to be only one level and the ship model was built with that in mind. But later it was decided it had to be two levels (to add crew quarters and so on) so the from windows were modified to be shorter to give the appearance that it had room for 2 stories.
Bill23799 Yep. And a room for the chariot and then a third level Power Core. Lol
They really didn’t think that ship through
I seem to recall they had to assemble and disassemble the chariot. There was no garage. Also, I remember an episode where a monster chased or lurered Will down into the power core or engine room.
@@davidmerlin3344 , I know. In fact- it kinda annoyed me but I let it go because I liked the series because of certain elements. For instance, the music throughout the episodes. Not particularly the theme music, but music which gave a sense of lurking peril.
Even as a child watching the show in syndication (early 70's) I was always struck on how it was larger inside that outside! LOL! Also, that it would continue to crash and perfectly bury its lower half in (apparently incredibly soft soil)--J2 crash landed so many times--I used to wonder what kind of material the ship was made of (it rarely soft landed in the series)--maybe it adamantium before Marvel came up with it! Looking at it now, it seem Allen and his designers really didn't want to think this through--tbh, just like its rival at the Star Trek, none of these creators ever thought these shows would've spawned generations of fans, lucrative franchises and continuing big budget film/tv sequels.
I remember the very day Lost in Space aired. And have been a fan ever since. I'm 60. And have always wondered about the entire layout of the J2. Thank you very much.
I remember watching it after school when it was in syndication. I like 7 or 9, WNEW ch. 5 in NYC during the early 70's! Very fond memories for me!
I'm 61, and I remember it as well! I was so convinced it was real because it was all narrated by the Guy Williams.
It is amazing how you took the TIME AND used the RELATIVE DIMENSIONS of the decks and were able to fit them all IN the SPACE provided. A FANTASTIC VOYAGE and JOURNEY INTO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH ship the Jupiter 2. A real ENTERPRISE taking us into the FINAL FRONTIER, answering such questions as "How did they cram all that into such a small ship?" And "Where in the heck was the bathroom?" Still leaving one question unanswered. "Why in the world would they put their food next to the Radioactive Materials?"
this is the best tour of the Jupiter 2 I ever seen great job compiling this video
Great vid. Brought back lots of memories. Imagine the possibilities of 100 ft. diameter & 40 ft. thick.
"There is no cut-away view because contradimensional compression distorts
the cross-sectional perspective such that all who behold it go insane,
something I learned the hard way. Wibble"
Indeed! An excellent depiction of what, by the sets, it ought to look like. All the classic space shows had inconsistencies. Moon Base was always losing Eagles, though there was no way to replace them. :P
Talk about your TARDIS Effect! LOL Way bigger inside than outside, but still one of my favourite ships.
I think there is one episode where we saw the power core room. Someone already made the comment the ship is bigger inside than outside. That's Hollywood but whoever did this did a good job.
You are right we did see the power core room on TV
Thats an interesting posdiblity tha core is somehow interdimensional, explaining the fact the Jupiter IS bigger on the inside.
I have watch this first on channel 4 on Sunday lunchtime. And now on the Horror channel. A true classic si fi show
The original design as envisioned in the comic book was a huge H shaped space ship able to encompass everything needed for the space journey.
Only 4 in the original family. Tim and Tam and the parents. The comic books stories were fantastic. Loved the story with the giant mosquitos.
Where did they store the space walk tethers, the ones that broke every time someone went out.
Were you injured by a tether, call our lawers at 1-800-BAD-ROPE
I liked your description (and humor) as much as the construct itself. Your excellent work was well worth the insanity and is greatly appreciated.
The Jupiter II is a television magic trick. Allen convinced us that his tiny swiss army spaceship could contain all the wonders shown using perfectly judged camera angles and cut aways. Examining the first 5 episodes only increased my admiration for his skills in making us suspend our disbelief.
Has anyone ever drawn what the J2's exterior would look like had it actually had all those rooms?
This was an excellent tour. At the end I would have liked to have seen a diagram of the layout of the ship, as you just displayed it, compared with the exterior design. It would have been interesting to see just how much the interiors exceeded the size of the exterior. Great work, nevertheless.
I have 58 years and this project to decad of 60 is fantastic
I'd love to see this with the exterior shell hidden just so we could see how everything was put in. It's to hard imagine that the interior was on the same model as the exterior.
I have a model that can show upper and lower deck. Had to rebuild the ladder ti line up and rearrange the spacepod bay so it coul( logically) lauch below
Thank you for giving us a tour of the Jupiter 2! I had always wondered where they had stored everything they had on the spaceship. This answered my question. I really enjoyed this!!!!!
A lot here you never ever saw in the TV Series!🤨🛸🤖👾
Kinda hard to believe the Jupiter 2 had all that space inside housing the Chariot, Space Pod and other sections of the lower half of the ship, but hey who am I to question my childhood favorite show?
I assumed the chariot was flat packed somehow, you never saw them drive it out of the J2.
I recall watching the series way back in the 60s for the first time. By series 3 the J2s internal dimensions had reached ridiculous proportions.
The first season, which was in black and white, seemed to be more "serious" science fiction wise. As a matter of fact, that pilot episode is really dark and cool. I've always wondered what would've it been like if Irwin Allen kept it like that. I read years later that Guy Williams was throughly disappointed as the series progressed--he wanted to maintain the family struggling together, but Allen wanted a colorful psychedelic silliness and change the focus on Smith, Will and the Robot. Thats too bad.
@@RX552VBK That was a weakness of Irwin Allen, by various accounts. He could come up with fun, interesting, and complicated settings, but he had no idea how to use them properly, he just couldn't tell the difference between a serious storyline and silliness.
To be fair, the show's popularity _did_ come to hinge on Smith, it was really the _Doctor Smith Show_ by the end of the first season. But I don't k now that it _had_ to turn out that way.
Yeah, I remember the episode where we saw the "Power Core". Like, wait a minute.. where TF could that possibly be? Down WHERE?
IF the Jupiter II spacecraft were two to three times larger, all of these great rooms would fit inside the saucer. Maybe the JII is a Tardis?
Great tour, thanks!
I love the time spent in showing all of the detail. Truly many hours of work and research have been done here. As many others have noted, the flight deck ,which should be the largest area in reality, is the smallest area. Clearly the lower desk(s) are far greater in size. Everyone loves the 'look' of the exterior of the ship, but it wasn't meant to hold whats is inside.
However, it would be possible to construct a FULL SIZE interior of each deck as shown in this CGI provided you are not allowed to see the real exterior of it.
It could all be fit in, but would not be able to be filmed, for the same reason realistically-cramped submarine interiors aren’t used in movies featuring subs (“Das Boot” excepted). Recall that J2 wasn’t supposed to support its crew in operations mode for more than several weeks; they were expected to be frozen for years, then to locate and deploy to the “colonization-suitable planet” within a fairly short time thereafter. As it was, they had to try to use a Volkswagen Beetle as an RV.
I will hear the theme song for the next 2 days..
This is an amazing piece of work. I was never a LTS fan, although I watched the show back in the day due to hunger for sci fi in any form, but... whoa. Excellent.
But yes, please god turn off the theme song.
I always wondered as a child where the Robinsons went to take a shit !! Thank you for explaining where it was !
Good video. I watched this show in syndication when I was in grade school back in the 70's. I forgot how goofy the theme music was, LOL.
This is really marvelous! You've done an exceptional job.
I learned a new word today..."Ablution".
Thank you.
The old RPG “Traveller” called this a “fresher”. I like that take on it.
Whoa! Great job, Lugodoc! Especially love the original soundtrack opening theme!
The video is great! The music repeating for 9 1/2 minutes is unbearable! Switching back and forth between the theme songs might have been better... they had 2 you know!
Larry Lee Moniz Like the newer one
Steve Bergman I think my ears were bleeding by the end. No ones ears were made to hear the same thing over and over that many times!!
If only our devices had volume controls, or there was an option in CZcams to mute the sound of a video.... well obviously learning to locate and operate those controls is much more time consuming than posting complaints about the audio track of a video...( I do not disagree with your critique of the choice of audio, I just wish us human beings would get out of the mode of offering their criticisms when not asked... And yes, I realize I'm just as guilty of that as everyone else!)
Volume controls? What's that? Actually I think we don't turn down the volume is bcz we don't wanna miss any changes in the audio but after 3/4 thru it must be obvious that the audio is permanently fixed on repeat so suffer sucker. There should be a warning warning warning !!!
buh-da-duh-da-dud-da-dadada-da-daaaaaaaaaaah-da-da-da-da-duh....................
Superb piece of work! There was I saying, "Bet there's no toilet " But there is!
Well done!
Thank you.
thanks! you must have had a lot of fun making this - i enjoyed it :)
I am so happy to see how much this classic ship influenced the new Jupiter 2 in Netflix/Legendary's "Lost In Space."
glad to see it has a toilet
Couldn't shown that in 60's television. LOL! I do like how Lugodoc redesigned the power core though. In an episode (the sillier color seasons) Smith and Will pushed a monster in the J2's power core--it was one of their standard generator core set (they reused or redressed this set a dozen times)--and the set was HUGE! Way bigger than the upper decks--even as a kid I was like: "No Way!" Just silly fun!
,Agreed. Even as a boy, I said how can the core be so big after seeing the underbody of the Jupiter 2? But I enjoyed the music, the guest stars, and so on. Specifically, Angela Cartright in the episode " my friend Mr. Nobody."
All that food concentrate and only a few rolls of toilet paper. That's forward thinking.
@@luthermcgee432 Yeah, I remember crushing on Angela as a little kid too.
@@RX552VBK , I can't blame you.
Fantastic video! I have to agree with some of the other comments that this is the best tour of the Jupiter II I've ever seen. I thought this video was from a game but I'm getting the feeling you did this yourself?!? If so, you did an amazing job! Thanks for posting :)
I love your explanation of how they were able to fit 2 more 7'+ high floors into this quasi dimensional space - brilliant 🤣
Mike Tyree What?
It's like the TARDIS.
That was awesome. Thank you for the video. I love the LIS theme music. It brings back so many memories. I still had to turn it down after a while😊
Damn, you pre-empted my criticism of your representation by stating that the Chariot was stowed disassembled. An early episode -- perhaps "The Hungry Sea" -- mentions, of course, that Don could use some help with final assembly of the Chariot to make it ready for use.
So AWESOME
Fantastic 3d modeling and animation. The music in animation was perfect, congratulation. What modeling software was used?
I love this! And you did it in SKETCHUP! you are my hero! I have been working on the Star Trek Hangar deck for two years now and can't get it to match the drawings, the models, and the series!
Now do the Brady Bunch house - where somehow there are bedrooms on a second floor that doesn't exist on the exterior, and where you pull into the driveway from the front of the house, yet somehow end up coming in from the opposite direction to the garage in the back.
That ship had more levels then the enterprise
It truly INSULTS ones's intelligence.
Excellent, with original music and technical fun!
brilliant it goes on and on !
The laundry room looks nice.
The laundry room and the bathroom filled with rolls of toilet paper! I thought the inclusion of all the TP was a nod to Covid-19 until I saw that the video was posted 6 years ago.
The Jupiter Twoardis
It was kind of creepy when Major West would show up at every turn throughout the ship.
itsmegp46 I think I'll have nightmares for weeks after watching the video. He's like the boogyman, always there, silently watching you. Scary stuff, for sure.
I have always found him creepy, never sure if he was supposed to be!
Now you know how Judy felt.
@@suspiciousminds1750 Major West told me she felt with her hands.
What's wrong with Major west? I think he was great. Especially when he wanted to have two minutes with Dr. Smith!
It really is like the TARDIS, bigger on the inside. Nevertheless love this ship. Thanks for the video.
Its more like the TARDIS than the Jupiter 2...very imaginative.
The Jupiter 2 in the TV show was like the TARDIS - yet never once was it stated on-screen by a character that it was bigger on the inside. It just looked like it when watching the show.
Yes it's the Jupiter version of the TARDIS. Dimensions change on the inside. That would be great as a home. Love the interior.👍🇭🇲🦘🐨✌️
So the J2 is built like a TARDIS. Much larger on the inside, lol. Great video. Very impressed. I'll use this if I ever decide to build a full size replica.
AWESOME, BOB'S CREATION LIVES ON. GREAT VID, VERY INFORMATIVE AND GREATIVE.
I wish Karl Gallagher would share his sketchup model. I'd love to make a 3D print out of it!!
I never did understand how something 20 feet tall can have 3 decks, but thats 60's television
cool 3d model, looks accurate
Very good, loved it!!
great tour video thanks
I'm glad they showed a picture of the weapons locker....Now if I could get a picture of the real thing.....
Great job
Cool show as a single digit kid in the 70s watching reruns, but by 11 years old or so I was bugged by all the technical and physics errors. The internal ship size issue bugged me then, so I moved on to be a hardcore trek fan by 76 or so.
But the general ship design and hardware design is still cool, like the chariot and pod and most of the hardware sets
Fantastic video
It's creepy seeing Major West turning up wherever you go
Late 90s?????WTF Lost in space was aired in the late 60s (1965 - 1968).
The time period of the show...they lifted off in 1997..
@@michaelwright6088 REALLY...never noticed that? Why 90s??? Should've been 70s or 80s instead..lol
Good job
great vid and loved the show...HOWEVER...there's a pesky thing called scale. the ship should be 3 times larger to accommodate all the equipment.
The space pod or whatever it was called, looks to have inspired the one in 2010 Odyssey Two, as they look to me very similar.
I like the microscope eyepieces on the radio.
Not many people know the best radios use eyepieces.
The Jupiter 2 was the best space ship ever made and it's so cool. Great vid but I just think instead of using the theme from season 1 and 2,season 3 was the best and would have made it just that much better.
I was hoping to see Major West in the reactor chamber too...😉
You did a simply amazing job on this, and the humor and tip of the hat Easter eggs were a nice touch. I was geeking out with this for hours.
Thank you so much! 😆🖖
BaldMaxx. where are you? what are the egg goodies?
....but by making use of the new quantum contradimensional deck compression technology the Jupiter II was able to squeeze 2 levels into the 6' tapered space below the flight deck....que up the theme from Doctor Who...
Nice job! Never saw the lavatory before!
I watched this show almost religiously back in the 70s when I was a kid, and it really didn't occur to me back then just how wrong this ship was. It's about 4 times bigger on the inside than it is outside. That's some TARDIS sh*t there!
Brilliant! While of course, it's impossible for there to be space for all those various interior spaces, the amount of thought and inventiveness, and God forbid, even logic (of a sort completely aligned with the show's fantasy elements) used to create this, is truly amazing and admirable. Well done indeed!
amazing how they fir in the lunar rover inside a full garage always wondered where that large vehicle was stored away. seems impossible even now!
Always wondered where the bathroom was
Woah, no way that third deck fits. Though, I wish it did.
Excellent recreation. It'd be nice to think of an outside that reconciled the inside, but I haven't yet.
Missing medical.
Don West being 'everywhere' was kinda creepy! BRILLIANT animation and fantastic extrapolation of areas we never got to see ... and "yes" Gallifreyan technology must've been utilised in the construction of the J2.
Thanks a lot for your informative comments above! It was quite difficult to find information on the exact size of the full scale prop (=the Bill Hedges original studio blueprint scans at the IANN.NET website are barely legible).
As for the lower level habitation deck "dilemma", do note that there are INFLATABLE space station modules in real life! ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TransHab ). I would assume the "saucer" outer hull is solid, with the two halves connected to a concertina-like inflatable habitation section made of Vectran/Kevlar. This would enable increasing the ceiling height while the hab deck is occupied. The hab section is normally collapsed/folded away when not used, in particular before landing. Sure, the Jupiter 2 is never shown on screen in "inflated habitation mode", but any design solution not seen is permitted :-)
Re. the 1960s studio set, is there any commercial set of blueprints that you can recommend? I have Shane Johnson's Jupiter 2 blueprints from 1983, but (sadly, typically) he seems to have added his own ideas while pretending it's all "canon".
It reminds me of the layout of the "Skylark of Space", which was E.E. "Doc" Smith's fictional interstellar spaceship, which appeared in Amazing Stories in the year 1928. The Skylark was a steel sphere 40 feet in diameter. This was the first "Space Opera" type science fiction ever published, & I see parallels between these space adventures and "Lost In Space".
A few years ago I modeled the Skylark, the first version that Seaton and Crane launched to pursue DuQuesne and their kidnapped girlfriends before it got upgraded with alien tech. It was an interesting exercise and I should publish that soon.
I would very much appreciate seeing your interpretation of the Skylark. I have very happy memories of reading the books of Doc Smith. The later iterations of the Skylark were far too big, but the original 40' sphere sounds do-able.@@lugodoc
Wow I never knew she has so many decks!
Very nicely done, but I see a MAJOR design flaw. That ship carried three men, three women and one stowaway (who I would have shoved out the airlock in the first episode) but it only has ONE bathroom?!?
I'd definitely think the women on the ship would've complained about that!
It kind of helps to remember that the family was supposed to be in stasis throughout the trip.
True, but they are still going to be awake a fair amount of time, and even after they land it's not like there will be extra bathrooms around, and I don't recall an episode where they built an outhouse... and an outhouse sitting next to a flying saucer would be REALLY weird.
True that. It just occurred to me that the passengers were probably supposed to be in stasis until their arrival and then the ship itself could serve as a housing unit until enough colonists arrived to begin large-scale construction. Additional facilities and assets could be constructed at the landing area as needed. And yeah, an outhouse next to a flying saucer would look weird on TV, but as a practical matter, it would probably be done.
Technically it's a half bath. That's what we call a bathroom in the US and the Jupiter 2 is an American space ship. I've never heard the term "dunny" before, apparently that's an Australian term... you guys build a fictitious spaceship and you can call the "necessary room" whatever you want.
I loved this show as a kid but i would think even back then how on earth do all these levels fit into that ship. The same mystery struck me on watching The Brady Bunch, as i could not work out how the outside design and configuration of the house fitting the interior. As it turned it they couldn’t. 😃
"You bubble headed Benign!"
I was about to say your contradimensional compression explanation was wonky and overly Time-Lord-ish, then I suddenly remembered that they used that very same explanation to explain the miniturization of The Robots components in one episode, where Will and Dr. Smith have to go inside The Robot to "save it's life" while it's compression generator is in failure mode. If it was me, I wouldn't allow the damn thing inside of a confined space, for safety reasons, but, that's just me. Anyway, nice job explaining how the Gemini XII exterior suddenly had enough non-existent space to account for the Jupiter II's interior, which should have been about 60 feet tall, and how the obviously absolutely impossible Space Pod and Chariot could work.
Thank you. I am enjoying the new Netflix remake, and I love their new Jupiter 2, but the original will always be special.
Dr Smith put the theme on loop to drive them crazy!
This show got me interested in computers!
I know that there was a room for the pod and a storage room leading to a power core on the third level, (although both don’t make sense) but there was no door to a chariot garage. It was assembled and disassembled. There also was more bed rooms and no service deck. The stairs just went from the first deck to the second and then to the outside.
Even though I like mark Goddard a lot, shouldn't the maker of the video have put Marta Kristen in there too? Or all of the cast as stand ins? But, I do say this candidly, that this explanatory walk through does give a sense of greater dimensions, which is good. And lost in space does have something that Star Trek didn't have, a sense of family. It was rightly called : The family space odessey ."
According to the episode "Island in the Sky", Major West states "We'll assemble the chariot". So it the was stowed in a disassembled state, NOT placed in a garage that would've protruded 10 feet from the rest of the ship! :)
Cool graphics 👍
Way bigger on the inside that out.
Very cool
I like how you used Adm. Nelson's diving bell for a reactor core; typical Irwin A budget saving stunt.
1:04 Batcave computers...1:10 Arcade Video Game Console.....1:18 Okinawa Gun rifles & Monkey Patrol pistols (plastic kids toy weapons from mid-60's painted black)
The music heard in this is the theme which was used in the first and second seasons of Lost In Space.
You nailed it. Just like the series, all that crap fit into a saucer that was easily 2-3 times to small to hold it all. Great job! My only criticism in that the Chariot was "assembled" and not stored ready to run. But I like your idea better. After all, why not - right?
Pretty sure had Irwin Allen foreseen how LIS would evolve, the Jupiter design would have been adjusted to allow for its expanded layout.