Honestly the C8 comes with pretty good manifolds from the Factory. The length, and the shape looks pretty much the same of the Long Tubes one. I mean, it's not like the C7 that comes with extremely restricted manifolds and you can then add a TRUE long tubes (the one for the C8 Honestly are not long tubes, more like shorty/mid lengths). I think i would stick with the stock one if i had a C8.
Awesome Install video! that makes it alot clearer on how to install headers. Quick question. Do you need to remove any paneling from underneath in order to gain access from the bottom?
@ParagonPerformance I had a 2015 Camaro SS/RS cammed, no cats, and long tube headers. Never had any problems with the warranty. Chevrolet said that they had to prove modifications caused the problem, should I have any.
I just ordered a set of ARH from Paragon, and exicted to work on this. Can you explain a little more about the access required from under the car? I have a quick-jack 5000, so I can get the car 2 feet off the ground. How tight are the access holes to remove the wires and plugs? Thanks for any additional detail!
The holes are large enough to get both of your arms in there so you'll have plenty of access! Reminder to remove the spark plugs before removing the bolts for the header. - Alex (Paragon Master Tech)
Paragon Headers Gain up to 25whp, Eventuri Intake is up to 17whp. Both are great options. Headers gain more but the intake is visible for car shows. Our best advice is to get both ;)
@@ParagonPerformance i definitely want both but that’s a lot at once lol plus I just had an engine bay window installed from FalconDesign (I have an HTC). Do you guys offer a discount if we order both at once?
Hey I recently bought a C8 Z06 and was wondering if you will come out with Z07 style Carbon accessories for the car. Such as the wing, side skirts, splitter and front canards
@@ParagonPerformance Thanks for the reply. I did buy the Corsa headers from Paragon. They are being installed today. With cats. Don’t think it will be finished today though.
I have a few questions Are the headers 50 state compliant? Could I send my car to you to have them installed, or do you have a qualified shop in California to install them? Will it void warranty?
They are not CARB certified. You could send us the car to have them installed but it may be more cost effective for you to find a shop in California. You can email support@paragonperf.com to see if we work with any shops In California. No they will not void warranty.
How long are the primary tubes on your headers? I have a C8 and all the headers I have seen, seem like their primaries are “shorter” than the ones on the long tube headers I put on my C6 & C7Z back in the day. Just wondering!
Hold up. We are not supposed to WRAP the header? Has anyone done a heat management test in the engine bay? Thats a whole lot of heat with exposed pipe?
You can wrap the headers or get them coated if you'd like. We have not noticed any issues or had concerns of the headers being exposed in the engine bay without heat shields.
What is the HP and TQ difference with a full set of headers, exhaust, air filter and air intake? Can you just add them all together or are there diminishing returns?
If you're doing Paragon Headers, Exhaust and a Halltech Hornet intake you can expect to see around 455WHP and 450LB FT TQ. That's what we've seen from our testing.
Stock cats aren't the restriction on these cars, the headers are. We've tested countless catalytic convertors and they all only increase power by single digit numbers.
You’d need to check with your local dealerships. Some will allow headers while other won’t. They shouldn’t because they don’t effect anything in a negative way.
Great content. I just received products from your company today. You guys are awesome, thanks
Thank you for the support!
Honestly the C8 comes with pretty good manifolds from the Factory.
The length, and the shape looks pretty much the same of the Long Tubes one.
I mean, it's not like the C7 that comes with extremely restricted manifolds and you can then add a TRUE long tubes (the one for the C8 Honestly are not long tubes, more like shorty/mid lengths).
I think i would stick with the stock one if i had a C8.
They might look "Pretty Good" but from our tests they are the most restrictive mod for power.
"stick with stock" and enjoy 25 less rwhp. Looks can be deceiving
@@joshb6420 ok go with kooks header and get more power
Another great product and installation video.
Thanks 😊 waiting for your ZO6 products.
Thank you Larry! The team is patiently waiting for our Z06 to arrive.
@@ParagonPerformance
I'm waiting for one also
alot easier than removing and adding equal length stepped headers to my E46 M3...C8 in my future
18 bolts and 6 hours later...but was a noob...now only 5 hours :-)
Nice! Will most likely hit you up once my C8 rolls in...
Love my Paragon Headers on my HTC!!!
Guessing I know you from CorvetteForum!
Thanks Geoff!
@@Kracka21C8 yes sir! MillerTimeISU
@@MillerTimeISU Kracka!
@@Kracka21C8 hell ya Kracka! You have provided great content for mods for our C8 platform. Appreciate it bud
So curious since you removed all the heat shields what protects all the engine components from heat. There had to be a reason GM put them on the car?
So you don’t burn yourself. We’ve track tested without the shields and the engine bay holds up fine. Doesn’t raise intake temps or anything.
Thank you
Hope the video was helpful!
Interesting 🤔
Don't think about it, just do it.
Awesome Install video! that makes it alot clearer on how to install headers. Quick question. Do you need to remove any paneling from underneath in order to gain access from the bottom?
Glad it's helpful. No panels need to be removed!
@@ParagonPerformance thats cool to know thanks!
Headers from the factory are great. Remove the cats and get a tune. You will achieve more gain with less cost.
@@bradbonnell5777 yet, you’ll void factory warranty with a tune, while you won’t with headers 😉
@ParagonPerformance Mine is a 2020 Z51. Removing cats will have no effect on my warranty.
@ParagonPerformance I had a 2015 Camaro SS/RS cammed, no cats, and long tube headers. Never had any problems with the warranty. Chevrolet said that they had to prove modifications caused the problem, should I have any.
Any negative effects on heat soak without the heat shields installed when seeing heavy track time in high temperatures?
We've track tested them at New Orleans & NCM with no issues of heat soaking.
I just ordered a set of ARH from Paragon, and exicted to work on this. Can you explain a little more about the access required from under the car? I have a quick-jack 5000, so I can get the car 2 feet off the ground. How tight are the access holes to remove the wires and plugs? Thanks for any additional detail!
The holes are large enough to get both of your arms in there so you'll have plenty of access!
Reminder to remove the spark plugs before removing the bolts for the header.
- Alex (Paragon Master Tech)
@@ParagonPerformance Excellent, thank you!
Do you reinstall the heat shield? If not, what do you do with the lines that clipped to it?
We didn't reinstall the heat shield. There are no lines that clip into it the heat shield they clip into the strut tower support bars.
@@ParagonPerformance Thanks. Watching it again I can see what you're saying. I'm thinking this may be my first mod!
@@flatspin99 It's a great first mod. Will increase power across the whole powerband. Great for autocross & the road course ;)
About how long would you say the install took? Just curious if I should do the catback and the headers in one swing.
Header install should take 4-5 hours depending if you have a coupe or convertible.
Are these headers a more impactful mod than the Eventuri cold air intake? I know that they’re both good but which gives more bang for your buck?
Paragon Headers Gain up to 25whp, Eventuri Intake is up to 17whp. Both are great options. Headers gain more but the intake is visible for car shows. Our best advice is to get both ;)
@@ParagonPerformance i definitely want both but that’s a lot at once lol plus I just had an engine bay window installed from FalconDesign (I have an HTC). Do you guys offer a discount if we order both at once?
@@_Car_Ideas You can try "ReturnCust" for 3% off. Hard to discount items when they barely stay in stock as is.
Hey I recently bought a C8 Z06 and was wondering if you will come out with Z07 style Carbon accessories for the car.
Such as the wing, side skirts, splitter and front canards
We are planning on making C8 Z07 Replica Parts. 😁
Would you say that headers and cats could be done in one day? I have the HTC. Thanks.
Yes, we have replaced both in one day here plenty of times.
@@ParagonPerformance Thanks for the reply. I did buy the Corsa headers from Paragon. They are being installed today. With cats. Don’t think it will be finished today though.
I have a few questions
Are the headers 50 state compliant?
Could I send my car to you to have them installed, or do you have a qualified shop in California to install them?
Will it void warranty?
ARH & aFe are the only CARB compliant headers for the C8 at the moment. aFe includes the letter and sticker.
They are not CARB certified.
You could send us the car to have them installed but it may be more cost effective for you to find a shop in California. You can email support@paragonperf.com to see if we work with any shops In California.
No they will not void warranty.
Any issues with heat and the clear cover on the HTC with these?
Great question Dave! Geoff, a local customer, has a HTC with both products and hasn't had any issues.
How long are the primary tubes on your headers? I have a C8 and all the headers I have seen, seem like their primaries are “shorter” than the ones on the long tube headers I put on my C6 & C7Z back in the day. Just wondering!
They will be shorter than C6 and C7 headers due to how the mid engine design is.
Any check engine lights?
No risk of a CEL when installed correctly.
Hold up. We are not supposed to WRAP the header? Has anyone done a heat management test in the engine bay? Thats a whole lot of heat with exposed pipe?
You can wrap the headers or get them coated if you'd like. We have not noticed any issues or had concerns of the headers being exposed in the engine bay without heat shields.
Is there a weight saving
12.5Lbs Total of weight savings. OEM Headers are 19lbs each, Paragon Headers are 12Lbs 12oz.
Do headers void engine warranty
No they won’t void your warranty
What is the HP and TQ difference with a full set of headers, exhaust, air filter and air intake? Can you just add them all together or are there diminishing returns?
If you're doing Paragon Headers, Exhaust and a Halltech Hornet intake you can expect to see around 455WHP and 450LB FT TQ. That's what we've seen from our testing.
@Elvin +25whp & +27lb fts tq
What were the stock numbers before the mods?
Will the headers get in the way of the carbon fiber engine kit
Nope!
They picked up that much power using stock cats?
Stock cats aren't the restriction on these cars, the headers are. We've tested countless catalytic convertors and they all only increase power by single digit numbers.
Will this void any warranties on the motor?
You’d need to check with your local dealerships. Some will allow headers while other won’t. They shouldn’t because they don’t effect anything in a negative way.
What's install price on these?
@@C8guy84 Link is in the description :)
@@ParagonPerformance Thank you!
How long does this take you to complete the install?
Coupe 4 hours, HTC 5 hours is what we quote.
@@ParagonPerformance Will you folks be at Corvettes at Carlisle? Will you be doing installs? Cheers!
@@sherlock1895 We will not be there this year.
Sound?
see 0:23
Do we need heat shield?
Heat shields aren’t necessary.