If you're in a grid down in the northeast during winter, you will need it to power electric heaters. Sounds like a lithium battery will fail that need. So you answered that question for me. These battery power stations are for light power needs like charging phones, tv, lights and a small fan.
I just got one for emergencies. It charged from 30% to 100% in less than 30 minutes. I’m not gonna be using it for off grid, only for emergency power outages. I also got a solar panel. A little insurance policy
I bought two of these, as the chain function "sounded" neat, and they were $799ea on crowdfunding. However: 1) It is not a great inverter. a. neither will run my 12" radial saw, but a 2000w Xantrek + Valence battery will b. no inverter should have to have its cooling fans on w/o any load connected, and they are LOUD 2) The Round Trip efficiency came out to 58% and 60% on these units, the worse I have ever tested. This is with fully charging, giving it a 2hr dwell time, then fully discharging, all @64°F. (Let me put it another way; you put $100 in the bank, but only get $58 to $60 back.) 3) People need to stop falling for EcoFlow's fluff- the standard for solar panel or lithium life is 80%. EcoFlow just doesn't want to admit that they only give 500 cycles until you reach that. Take 60% of the measured output today on a new unit, and ask yourself if you want to lug 31+pounds for that reduced round trip inefficiency. 4) EcoFlow promised they would replace the batteries for free (you pay round trip shipping, which isn't cheap on lithium) once they get below 60%, but I have yet to hear of anyone having luck with that yet. Nor do I trust them, as I told them my round trip test results and said I wanted to return them for a refund...crickets. I DO NOT RECOMMEND.
I just picked up the River Pro and found the same lack of efficiency. I can't believe more reveiwers don't pick up on it and just focus on the fancy bells and whistles. So far I was only able to pull around 493-526 watts out of 720 watts advertised using AC. Recharging requires over 900 watts. Luckily I caught it on sale at Costco with easy returns. Waiting to see what the new Jackerys promise.
I've had mine since kickstarter - live in sticks-and-bricks so my usage isn't often, but I do love it. Fantastic for power outages and to use power tools in the yard far away from outlets.
Just bought one off their website they gave me 150.00 off and they send emails offering discounts all the time love your channel keep up the great work
No longer too expensive per watt hour as stated in the video. Here's my calculation of cost per watt hour... Renogy Lycan Ecoflow EFDelta Jackery Explorer 1500 Bluetti AC200P $1,299 $1,099 $1,349 $1,699 $1.21 $0.87 $0.91 $0.85 These are all Amazon prices as of May 21, 2021.
Whats nice is you can charge the Ecoflow from the cigarette lighter plug at 113w from a Prius or solar at about same watts, if you have a full tank of gas it will last awhile.
Prius Prime plug in was used testing the output on the cigarette lighter plug, if you have a full battery it will last a long time, might work in place of buying inverter and hooking up to 12v battery.
Thank you for your review! Good information and details. Early adopter here (bought on Kickstarter). I chose this over the Bluetti 1500W because of the higher input voltage requirement on the Bluetti (covered on your first test video for that product). The Kickstarter price of $900 helped in that decision. I was also looking at the Titan, but the Delta1300 seemed a bit more portable and price-effective (had to purchase two of them though). For my use-case (extended weekend camping in the summer), the Delta1300 works well. I can power my camp kitchen (including a 700W microwave oven, a chest fridge, and a separate chest freezer) and all of my electronics from my two units using two Dokio 300W folding panels in series and chaining the Deltas. Yes, I'm over-paneled; but I can't always count on full sun. If ordered REALLY early, the Delta1300 was only $800 at initial offering, with an even better discount when multiple units were purchased (yeah, I missed out on that). I see EF still hasn't corrected the size of the neutral blade on the AC outlets. When using a grounded plug, everything should be fine, but using a "polarized" non-grounded plug, the Neutral and Hot are backwards. Not a major issue if all of your appliances are in good condition as the ground doesn't exist and Neutral is floating anyway. I just hoped they would correct this on the next production run.
Why doesn't anybody long term stress test these things. I feel like most solar generator reviews are very incomplete. This is by far the best most thorough review I've seen so far
That's what I was wondering, Since I'll be draining it daily/weekly, it will replace my 1800w (2250w starting) 1 gallon gas generator because when I'm done at one job site I have to put it back in my work truck for the next one and the fumes is a concern.
I watch the “price per watt” conclusions you draw Tom. Looks like the Bluetti if you need a lot of power and I STILL think my Explorer 500 is a terrific value for the money. Best to Miss H. & hope y’all stay safe. Michael
There are two scenario's that I wish was included... Running your RV while solar charging and pass through of surplus power to your appliances; and can it have two sources of charging at once? Say perhaps a fueled inverter/generator AC connection and solar panels. This would demonstrate how much flexability you have as an ideal off-grid camping tool. Great video though, and keep up the great content!
Don’t know if it helps, but we got the Bluetti. It does allow charge thru use from our solar panels. So far the only downside is if you use the power faster than your panels replenish, it takes overnight to refill from plug in.
Great review! I'm a lucky one who got this discounted at Wellbots for $1050. It's best application is for the camper/overlander types (i.e. occasional users) where it's "lower" claimed cycle life will be almost unnoticeable. Having used it for a while now im of the mind that the lower round trip energy efficiency is due to all of the safety electronics and fans running essentially non-stop. Many may not like that but I think it's a great thing for the health of the batteries and electronics. While the fast charging and 1800W capabilities are great in a pinch, definitely don't do that often for the sake of battery life. Cheers!
Bought this a week or so ago with the sale of a Delta and a 370W River together. waiting for them to arrive. going to try the Dokio 300W solar panel to start with. Will only be used to power a pop up camper and in emergency if lose power to the house. Not concerned about the 800 charge limit as will not be used on a daily basis
Kevin Thomason how was the dokio panel with the EF Delta? I’m thinking of getting the same panel but the 300W panel outputs over 10A (which is the limit for EF Delta)
I have two of the delta units. I paid $800 for one, and $900 for the other new. I love them. They work great! I have a Monster X on order, can't wait to try that. It's going to be 1700 wh.
Thank you for your review. Let me give you my feedback on my experience after one month with this unit. First I charged it up to 100% after I bought it used it and drained it down to about 75% and then recharged it. I let it sit for two weeks and it was 40% of the charge when it was turned off. I don’t see how that can be acceptable at all for a back up power pack. I then tried it on 150 watt heating blanket when it was fully charged and it kept shutting off even though the draw on it was less than 150 watts. I’m going to call customer service and then I have to return this product and I’m going try to get a refund it’s just not acceptable at all.
@@danak9245 I did call customer service. They asked me to create videos showing the problem and submit a claim. They said they were review it and provide shipping to have it repaired. but since I bought it REI they have a three month return policy for any reason. so I just returned to REI and got my money back.
My cabin in upstate NY lost power a month ago for 3 days and I was worried about the meat in freezer (which somehow didnt go bad), If I had this then I could of went and plugged the fridge into it, I just ordered mine and some solar panels today. Will bring it back and forth with me to cabin and Brooklyn in the event the power goes out. Very thorough review! Thanks so much
Great channel! Just purchased this today as emergency backup. $973 for power station and 160w panel. Your reviews are great and helped me decide what to purchase. Thank you!
Another great review. Love the front screen. Very bright and interesting. I prefer the outlets on the front side for portable use. For a stationary home use the rear outlets are cleaner looking. Overall the market is crowded and Jackery will probably drop a 2k unit before long. Sticking with my Goal Zero 1500 for the time being. Thanks for all the work in making this review!
I like mine EXCEPT for the DC output. At only 8 amps output it won't power my diesel heater (10 amps) and will have trouble powering my water pump (8 amps) if my fan and lights are on. AC side is awesome. Powers my water heater, ac, microwave, refrigerator, cooktop, coffee maker anything up to 1800 watts. I like that it's compact and portable and I can charge it while driving, with solar or plugged into grid. It's not for the nomad but great for weekend warrior, cross country travelers or prepper.
Here is a question. Instead of tieing 3 units together, I would think, by what you showed. It might be better to use 1 unit, and then batteries after that. It seems like it would be cheaper and more efficient.
Great review Hobo . Unfortunately being in Canada and 44 % exchange rate ,all this great stuff is out of my reach . But its still nice to learn the strong and weak points about a product . Thanks
According to the manual, my microwave cooks at 950W but draws 1200W. It's likely not all the inefficiency is in the Ecoflow's inverter. Great review overall though. I know its old and not Lipo but for $435 refurb from Ecoflow eBay certified I went for it. I don't plan on it ever being used for close 500 cycles.
I am interested to know if the Delta 1300 can be quick charged in under 2 hours from a gas generator such as the Honda 2000 i ? If so, it would allow the user to do the charging in the middle of the day and not have to run the gas generator at anti social times on our crowded UK campsites.
I have two 300 watt panels connected each 33 v at peak so together they are 66v. I know the max is 400w but I'm not worried about it ever reaching max because I'm not facing the panels at optimal sunlight level. Glad I will probably be okay.
I like the ECOFLOW product designs and the displays, but I've heard from other reviewers that the recharging and inverter are both quite inefficient, well below the efficiency of competing units. Also, 800 cycles for battery life seems low - that's just over two years of daily use.
We just bought a Ecoflow Delta Max 2000. Our question is if you want to run different things like a fan in your bedroom, a TV in the living room and a refrigerator in the kitchen, can you connect each of these devices to the Ecoflow with extention cords since they are in different rooms? You would think this would be a question everybody would ask, but we haven't seen it in any comments. Thanks.
I think it might be helpful to address the Ecoflow customer service. From their forum experience and comments it appears it's very lacking. Shipping has been an issue also for many Kickstarter customers. Hopefully they will improve soon if they intend to be a viable competitor!
There seems to be an issue with using the car charger that comes with many of the Ecoflow models. There are numerous reports of the plug heating up and, in many cases, melting. I haven't been able to get much clarity on what might be causing this, either from Ecoflow web forums, or Ecoflow support. I own a Ecoflow Delta 1300 and would like to charge it while driving using the cigarette lighter port in my vehicle. Any ideas what might be happening? It would be great if you could run a test to see if you can get a handle on what is causing this. Thanks
I watched so many videos on power banks. For what I need this will work fine for emergencies. I bought the Delta and also bought the River as well for a CPAP in an emergency. I paid $1980 for both, including 160w panel and 2 solar lights. Not bad. I like how I can change settings to 1800w and can add xtra battery to River. So these should last for years and will be a compliment to the gas generator. I may even but another Delta if the prices continue to drop. I saved a total of $250 on the both Ecoflos..
@@kimd7866 It is a UPS (uninterrupted power source) so yes you can charge while using. My daughter keeps her CPAP plugged into the river so when power goes out she won't wake up.
Outstanding review! Your analysis of the tradeoffs was right on. I do not know what possessed me to pay for one through the kick start program. I first chose the lower wattage model and then upgraded for the higher wattage model. It was a really good deal at the time and I guess it was. Both of my large capacity solar generators EMP proof bags. What I am looking forward is the reduction in price of LiFePO4 batteries and the application in large capacity solar generators and plug and play stationary power storage systems fed off solar arrays.
@mouseranger I am new to this . I’m going to start the nomad life in a couple months. the one thing I can NOT seem to understand is the electrical . No matter how many vids I watch I don’t get it. If I bought the jackery you bought how much solar would I need to max it to get the most power? I might just head out and find out once I am free and on my new life path. Any input you have I would greatly appreciate
Flower Child: the jackary is just a battery like the power banks (batteries) that you use to charge your phone on the go. You have to charge the power banks in order to give them power to charge your phone or whatever that can connect to it. We charge our power banks at home using a wall outlet with a micro usb cable. You charge this jackary battery like that too or with solar panels. That’s it. What this guy is doing in this video is mostly for his own entertainment. He’s not teaching anything so don’t expect to learn from it. Take a class on the stuff if you really want to learn the language and math and concepts. But it’s not needed. The jackary is just a fucking power bank. Which is cool.
I was lucky. The Jackery 1000 (which only has a 1000 watt inverter) was able to power my RV microwave. This RV microwave is a 950 watt (that is input watts) that runs just fine. This is one of the most important things for me as now i do not have to run that stupid, loud generator. A 1500 watt inverter was going to be my minimum that i would accept in a power station, but Jackery got me with that early purchase deal.
Any update on receiving your Y adapter/ parallel cable? I've been back and forth with Jackery and told that they will be ready to ship soon. Still couldn't get a specific date from them however.
I was already chuckling about what his cat said in the mic then when I saw the Knight Rider themed EcoFlow Delta digital display I lost self control and LMAO! I'm a Knight Rider fan! : )
I am interested in the AC-efficiency in the UPS mode, with battery 100% full........ Found it at 16:18, it looses 13%!! from AC-in to AC-out.....ouch..... Hmmm that means they convert AC-in to DC and DC to AC-out and loose a lot....... so not a reall efficient UPS.
Another excellent video, per your usual standard. I think it would be hilarious if you started out your video showing a "solar generator" (the sun) and then a 3-in-1 battery/charger/inverter. At some point, you really should do a review of the Titan. Each component piece of the Titan weighs almost exactly as much as the EcoFlow Delta 1300. It's about the same price per watt/hr, but has a much more powerful inverter, along with far better specifications, across the board. If price is no object, and you can accept two units weighing about 35lbs each as "portable", then the Titan is the absolute best in class for all of these products labeled as solar generators. It's probably not the right unit for someone in an RV, but is a very good option for off-grid cabins and such. Thanks for reviewing so many of the common, affordable, and truly portable solar generators.
The Titan is crazy expensive per wh. The battery it comes with for $3000 is only 2000wh and I don't know how much of that is even usable. I will write to them (again) and ask them to send me one to review.
Great informative review. I have one. My use is for periodic blackouts. This morning we had a blackout at 6am and the electric company stated power would be on at 10:30 am. We have a 10-year-old in the online school. I need the router to come on quick fast and a hurry. I had to iron, and I set up one big screen tv. The Ecoflow works well in this niche, which is staying at home due to COVID-19, child or children, items like microwave, flat-screen, and powering lights directly and bringing online Amazon's Alexa. I can assure you, people like me will be considering a power supply throughout this pandemic. With this kind of usage, once to four times a year, I am sure the service life will be long. I don't believe this kind of use of the charge cycle will make me feel cheated. I forwarded this one to my buddy, he also listened for your review about the Beaudens power station. Would you consider articulating scenario(s) to include the utility of reviewed products for First Responders? I have already subscribed great review.
Thanks for ur video .. and the knowledge u have of these generators.. I got a echoflow max for my portable smoker it takes 200watts for the heat rod but after that it draws 30watts continuously for 13 hours.. it does it job ..
Old school PCs used smaller fans they these days, not big ones, that's why they were louder. A smaller fan has to spin faster than a larger fan to move the same amount of air, plus more turbulence equates to more noise. Anything in the path of a fan's airflow will create more noise, so removing poorly designed fan covers can often make them quieter, plus having smooth, ducted edges into the fan can help. This is an area companies will cheap out on and just stick a crappy little 80 or even 60mm fan in their device to cool it, without mush thought to through-flow and its effect on noise.
Finally... Yeah!! Im new to this portable generator game. But i purchased it for my townhome in SC. Lights were out for 3 days few years ago. Had to rent a hotel room. I did not think you were going to test this product. So, I purchased this last week, at a discount and waiting on arrival. I love its quick charge, and the ability to run my cooking appliance(s) for a 3-5 day black out. I also brought jackery 240 at a discount for internet wifi, and small plug-in night lite, and light charging when im away. Not too pleased with the couple cons on Delta, but hey, will get most of the job done... Thank you for the detailed review!
I have been thinking about buying one of these units for a long time. Unfortunately, lithium batteries (even tiny ones like a CR-123) can't be shipped by air to Alaska, and ground shipping is not realistic (or even available as far as I can tell). If I can figure how to get one up here without paying an arm and leg I will get one.
Wow, that's gotta suck. Considering how many devices have lithium cells built-in, that must mean that stuff we take for granted in the lower 48 like laptops and cellphones are rare and costly items! The ATA needs to revise policies to take into account the fact that there are many different lithium battery chemistries, and few are that unstable. As usual, a little industry regulation could really help out both manufacturers, shippers and consumers by making it easier and less costly to ship safer types, and specifying actual procedures for safe shipping.
@@StringerNews1 We can get some of these batteries when big retailers like Fred Meyer ship them by barge. But the average Joe is out of luck The funny thing is we can bring them back on an airplane as long as they are in our carry on baggage. Very screwed up regulations and there is nothing we can do about it but try and find a way to ship them by barge. Crazy.
Quite a lovely video, and the real reason you know why is I both learned a lot ( on the technical side), and then you made me double check whether my Jackery 500 (with its lousy 85w charging wattage) has pass through charging... and it does just like the 1000, so now I can use my Jackery for the wifi and the alarm and internet during our loadshedding here in SA (scheduled blackouts)
I'm planning on getting this Delta 1300 for use during power outages. So, a Li-ion NMC power station would be better for my infrequent usage, rather than a LFP one.
Thank you for all the information. A lot of it goes over my head, but I get the general gist of how you feel about it. I was surprised to find out that the Delta and Delta Pro contain different battery technology. I thought the PRO was just a bigger version of the same thing.
really extensive review! really appreciated. FWIW, doing some research for my SUV camper build out and will probably nix this one from the list, Bluetti EB150 or the AC50 seem like the best options so far...
Wow, I wish I seen this video before I Purchased my Ecoflow from Amazon yesterday. What’s disappointing to me is I can’t recharge it from 500 watt bestek inverter that I carry in my van. I think I was much happier just using my Arkpak 730p.
I will watch this video ASAP. Quick questions for anyone. How does this stack up against InergyTek’s Flex1500 with expandable batteries & quick charger capabilities???
I bought one of these about 6 months ago, I started to use it more often about a month ago, and there seems to be a problem with over heating, My unit has shut down twice under these conditions, I am feeding it with two 170 watt solar panels run in series. they are putting about 250 to 300 watts into the Delta flow I am also pulling about 200 watts out of the unit to run my small refrigerator about 140 watts and some lights and my laptop. after about 4 hours of use the unit just drops out the load and I get Zero output, This has now happened two times this month. I have to turn the unit off and restart it. ???? Just thought you should know.
@@annabanna666 I still have the unit as a back up but now I use a Bluetti 1500, The Bluetti works so well that I have bought a second one. The Bluetti has never dropped out. I have not set up my panels yet this year because I live pretty far north in Pennsylvania. I wish I had not bought the EcoFLow it is also a energy pig it uses so much energy just staying on even without a load. My advice to anyone who is looking for a unit is to stay away from the EcoFlow.
Anybody know how long it would take to charge this from 0% using from car battery while driving? since I'm driving, does it make sense to do this vs running an inverter?
I just canceled my Jackery Explorer 1000 order in favor of the Delta 1300. This model is more like a true 1KW solar plant, the solar panels are foldable and waterproof, and I can put 3 of them in series to get a solar charge without impacting battery durability. The $300 price difference isn't much for me and as far as the increased weight in the Delta, that's in part because the power supply is built-in. With the Jackery, you incur the additional weight in the humongous external power brick. (My only regret is that they made this thing look like a PowerMac G4. I hate Macs!) Great review! Sub'd.
Ho Ho HOBO ! Another fine job Professor ! I am waiting for my power to come from the “Cloud”. Problem is the great Sonora dessert 🍨 does not have many Cloudy days. But, I did receive my SunGoldPower portable solar panels and will be testing those today. Only issue so far is no instruction booklet, dud ! So I must use the Professor’s video as my guide. Well, keep Panning for gold and not endemics.
More power and less $$ than my 1000w Oaktek Blue whatever it is called. Happy with it, but tech just gets better and better everyday. Very nice unit! Forget 250w/500w units, go big or go home.
25:25 That right there made me go straight to the Bluetti to find out more. I was immediately turned off to find out that it takes 8 hours to charge with AC.
After charging my Eco Flo Delta to 100% with my solar panel. I brought it in and plugged in a small TV and the cable box in my room. I also plugged the unit power cord to the wall outlet and the fan came on immediately. Even though the Eco Flo Delta displays 100% charge and 99 hours. It will not turn on the TV or cable box. Question is why won't it turn on the TV and cable box? And is it safe to leave it plugged into the wall outlet while in use? That is if it will power up my devices.
A very interesting review and extremely helpful for me. A friend just bought one and asked me of my opinion so that’s why I came to you to find out what I must to offer some informed advice. This is the looks of things a good unit but the reason why my friend bought it (and I was looking to buy one too after he mentioned it but before seeing this video 👍🥴) Is this. We are in the Australian Outback with our Cars and are self sufficient in all aspects but powering our 2 portable fridges ( Waeco CFx 60/70 liter type) plus charging our Detectors and keeping our auxiliary batteries ( i have 4 AGM 105 W/hr deep cycle batteries i use for all that) to keep these fully charged on Solar is a real battle as you can understand. So my question is this… Knowing I have a MacBook Pro, plus constantly charge 12 volt accessories plus having 2 x 60 liters Waeco CFX portable fridges/ Freezers connected to my auxiliary battery setup (and I do need to keep them running at -14 degrees Celsius during the day at the very least) what do YOU recommend as a ideal setup for my or my friends needs?? I really would love your feedback and thoughts on this as I must replace ALL my batteries and hence need to buy something that will provide me with the capacity to power all my stuff. The heat in the Australian Outback can exceed 60 degrees Celsius during the day in summer very easily and nighttime is around 28-32 degrees Celsius on a bad day. What would you recommend I choose for batteries and a power station?? I currently have 4 x 120 watt 12 volt foldable Solar panels plus 2 fixed panels on my Car roof and trailer 100 Watt and a 160 WATT panel…….once all are connected that offers me a total of around 700 WATT but the Solar charge controller I have is crap and It doesn’t input the power as I had hoped to keep my batteries fully charged. I would welcome and definitely need advise on how to get the best setup with what I have as I only go to town every few month…..Indo have a Yamaha 2.4KWa generator but the fuel is getting very expensive and I am hence looking at a solution such as the Ecoflow OR the ones that are similar but not as expensive and have a much better battery capacity as you rightly pointed out.. Sorry this is a long message and an unusual request I dare say but I am hoping ypu can offer some sound advice to both me and my friend 🙏🏼 Thank you for an excellent review and I subscribed and look forward to your reply. Regards Jim 🤠
I don't have half a clue what Mr Hobo Tech is saying with most of his discussions about watts and volts (sorry female here). I have this unit AND three solar panels for part of my SHTF plans. I got it to keep a fridge going and the CPAP for my dad....with snowmaggedon last week in TX it kept the CPAP going when my dad needed and when needed kept the fridge going too. We did not use it continously because we had intermittent power. We hooked it to the wall to recharge when there was power. Kept us in power for emergency stuff (plus some power used to power the latte maker 😛). We got our unit on HSN and paid for it over a three month period, no interest and was actually $100 less than ecoflow website. I also later got the three solar panels too...two through the website and one though HSN and two of those panels were on sale $100 off.
What they failed to mention is that the amp/hour rating is probably is it were discharge for 20 hours. I do not know how they would know what the load needs to be to make it exactly discharge for 20 hours to dead. The lower the load, the more power you can get out of it. A heavy load will discharge the battery quicker. Maybe the inverter uses more power, is less efficient, at higher draws.
My 12v XT60 connector melted while charging ecoflow plugged into my 2021 Ram sport. It won't power my 15amp appliances ie. Camper air conditioner. Went into protection on my lg OLED TV. And when doing a capacity test I only got 900 watt hrs at .1C. also seems to time out and turn off on our 12v camping fridge... .maybe because it pulls no power for a period of time once it gets to temp? Tried to get warranty Ecoflow is being very Difficult..
Great review. One of the best I’ve seen on this product. EcoFlow was having a sale a couple of weeks ago and I got it and their River Bank rechargeable battery for $1299. It should arrive at the end of the week. I want to get panels for it, but the ones they sell are very expensive. Thanks again!
So, concerned on keeping this unit as just purchased off Amazon or if I should return this Ecoflow Delta for better and latest Delta Max? Will cost extra $900 though. Is it worth it, perhaps for the long run.
When hooking 3 together in series, can each of them "independently" have their own solar panels? For example, 4 100 Watt solar panels on EcoFlow unit 1, 4 100 Watt solar panels on unit 2, etc?
Came to clean the cat's litter box . . . . stayed 'cause I bought one ! ! It is charging from solar during the day when it is used most = it's battery is like a capacitor giving & receiving power while floating in the middle . In this application it will probably never die since the loads it sees are well below it's capacity . I really enjoy your reviews , especially the load tests with the Great audio soundtrack bringing edge-of-the-seat anticipation/excitement into the review ! ! ( Ha - ha ! ) ALSO , am thankful for your considerate use of the white-cloth gloves to conceal the egregious disfigurement of your hands from the time you (along with the local townspeople) incinerated that poor monster that was created by Mel Brooks . T h a n k s ! ! RH
Thanks man...don't think it's for me....I look more for longer lasting value ie,cycle life...fast charging time...not that important to me...I appreciate you man!! 😊😊😊
Love your testing, really good data gathering that is useful to the common person considering so many options while trying to get best bang for the buck.
It seems like every generator is a mix of pluses and minuses. Makes it really hard to decide which one is right for my particular use. We want one to run a refrigerator for a few days in case the power goes out and also run a little portable air conditioner in one of the rooms so we were thinkingof buying two of them. But now that I've seen this review I'm thinking it be better to use the money and get a titan or a blueberry with a bigger power supply. Would appreciate your suggestion
If it's sold out, it clearly must be a success. The capacity hits from the electronics are not great. Jehu took his apart and said the cells are sort of generic, Chinese apparently. You lose capacity from conversions and the charge cycles cost capacity. Love those LFP where my 4 year olds are still at 90%. Was wondering what happens if you hook up a small generator, one that can't get close to that max charge? Does the generator go into overload or does the Delta adjust? Was wondering if you connected 800 watts of solar and drew 400 watts with the A/C, would it still give you the 400 watts through the inverter, plus 400 watts of charging? These things are getting better, but you really have to need all the capabilities or a bank plus an inverter makes more sense. Thanks. These are fun.
No, you can't use both AC and solar inputs simultaneously. If you use a generator too small, it will overload and stop the generator. There is no self regulating except that the Delta will keep trying to restart the charge cycle. It's 1200w or bust.
800 Cycles to 80%+ capacity is stated on their website. Maybe the improved the internals. I would use it in a campervan as the Battery/Inverter Solar Controller. Its fast to charge and you wouldnt have to do all the wiring.
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i enjoy your video...but all the jargon, i cannot understand...i am a dummie...thanks...
is there a way to hook this eco to the whole house via circuit box????...need an electrician?...
If you're in a grid down in the northeast during winter, you will need it to power electric heaters. Sounds like a lithium battery will fail that need. So you answered that question for me. These battery power stations are for light power needs like charging phones, tv, lights and a small fan.
I just got one for emergencies. It charged from 30% to 100% in less than 30 minutes. I’m not gonna be using it for off grid, only for emergency power outages. I also got a solar panel. A little insurance policy
How many watts is your solar panel ? How’s it been , have you used it ? Great idea
I bought two of these, as the chain function "sounded" neat, and they were $799ea on crowdfunding. However:
1) It is not a great inverter.
a. neither will run my 12" radial saw, but a 2000w Xantrek + Valence battery will
b. no inverter should have to have its cooling fans on w/o any load connected, and they are LOUD
2) The Round Trip efficiency came out to 58% and 60% on these units, the worse I have ever tested. This is with fully charging, giving it a 2hr dwell time, then fully discharging, all @64°F.
(Let me put it another way; you put $100 in the bank, but only get $58 to $60 back.)
3) People need to stop falling for EcoFlow's fluff- the standard for solar panel or lithium life is 80%. EcoFlow just doesn't want to admit that they only give 500 cycles until you reach that. Take 60% of the measured output today on a new unit, and ask yourself if you want to lug 31+pounds for that reduced round trip inefficiency.
4) EcoFlow promised they would replace the batteries for free (you pay round trip shipping, which isn't cheap on lithium) once they get below 60%, but I have yet to hear of anyone having luck with that yet. Nor do I trust them, as I told them my round trip test results and said I wanted to return them for a refund...crickets.
I DO NOT RECOMMEND.
good to know
I just picked up the River Pro and found the same lack of efficiency. I can't believe more reveiwers don't pick up on it and just focus on the fancy bells and whistles. So far I was only able to pull around 493-526 watts out of 720 watts advertised using AC. Recharging requires over 900 watts. Luckily I caught it on sale at Costco with easy returns. Waiting to see what the new Jackerys promise.
$58-60 for a $100 ?!! Biden’s done a lot worse. 😏
Thanks for this. What one would you recommend ? Anybody ?
@@benallmark9671 Bluetti. The big one. Shop around as discounts are always being given.
I've had mine since kickstarter - live in sticks-and-bricks so my usage isn't often, but I do love it. Fantastic for power outages and to use power tools in the yard far away from outlets.
Just bought one off their website they gave me 150.00 off and they send emails offering discounts all the time love your channel keep up the great work
southern dividend how did you get 150$ off ?!
How did you get $150 off?
@@JL-qf8bx when i first went to the site they had a popup that asked for my email address and they sent me a code for 10% off
How much was it?
@@mztwixed $1399
No longer too expensive per watt hour as stated in the video. Here's my calculation of cost per watt hour...
Renogy Lycan Ecoflow EFDelta Jackery Explorer 1500 Bluetti AC200P
$1,299 $1,099 $1,349 $1,699
$1.21 $0.87 $0.91 $0.85
These are all Amazon prices as of May 21, 2021.
Whats nice is you can charge the Ecoflow from the cigarette lighter plug at 113w from a Prius or solar at about same watts, if you have a full tank of gas it will last awhile.
Prius Prime plug in was used testing the output on the cigarette lighter plug, if you have a full battery it will last a long time, might work in place of buying inverter and hooking up to 12v battery.
Thank you for your review! Good information and details. Early adopter here (bought on Kickstarter). I chose this over the Bluetti 1500W because of the higher input voltage requirement on the Bluetti (covered on your first test video for that product). The Kickstarter price of $900 helped in that decision. I was also looking at the Titan, but the Delta1300 seemed a bit more portable and price-effective (had to purchase two of them though).
For my use-case (extended weekend camping in the summer), the Delta1300 works well. I can power my camp kitchen (including a 700W microwave oven, a chest fridge, and a separate chest freezer) and all of my electronics from my two units using two Dokio 300W folding panels in series and chaining the Deltas. Yes, I'm over-paneled; but I can't always count on full sun.
If ordered REALLY early, the Delta1300 was only $800 at initial offering, with an even better discount when multiple units were purchased (yeah, I missed out on that).
I see EF still hasn't corrected the size of the neutral blade on the AC outlets. When using a grounded plug, everything should be fine, but using a "polarized" non-grounded plug, the Neutral and Hot are backwards. Not a major issue if all of your appliances are in good condition as the ground doesn't exist and Neutral is floating anyway. I just hoped they would correct this on the next production run.
Anonimity+ how’s the dokio panels working for you and the EFDelra?
Why doesn't anybody long term stress test these things. I feel like most solar generator reviews are very incomplete. This is by far the best most thorough review I've seen so far
That's what I was wondering, Since I'll be draining it daily/weekly, it will replace my 1800w (2250w starting) 1 gallon gas generator because when I'm done at one job site I have to put it back in my work truck for the next one and the fumes is a concern.
I watch the “price per watt” conclusions you draw Tom. Looks like the Bluetti if you need a lot of power and I STILL think my Explorer 500 is a terrific value for the money. Best to Miss H. & hope y’all stay safe. Michael
HSN has this Ecoflow Delta marked down to $1299 right now. I'm gonna use this as my portable & get the Bluetti for my home unit. Thanks for the info!
I asked Playing with Sticks about operating temps as I am in Southern Nevada and he sent me your way.
There are two scenario's that I wish was included... Running your RV while solar charging and pass through of surplus power to your appliances; and can it have two sources of charging at once? Say perhaps a fueled inverter/generator AC connection and solar panels. This would demonstrate how much flexability you have as an ideal off-grid camping tool. Great video though, and keep up the great content!
Don’t know if it helps, but we got the Bluetti. It does allow charge thru use from our solar panels.
So far the only downside is if you use the power faster than your panels replenish, it takes overnight to refill from plug in.
@@dougfresh1341 Thankyou!
Great review! I'm a lucky one who got this discounted at Wellbots for $1050. It's best application is for the camper/overlander types (i.e. occasional users) where it's "lower" claimed cycle life will be almost unnoticeable. Having used it for a while now im of the mind that the lower round trip energy efficiency is due to all of the safety electronics and fans running essentially non-stop. Many may not like that but I think it's a great thing for the health of the batteries and electronics. While the fast charging and 1800W capabilities are great in a pinch, definitely don't do that often for the sake of battery life. Cheers!
Bought this a week or so ago with the sale of a Delta and a 370W River together. waiting for them to arrive. going to try the Dokio 300W solar panel to start with. Will only be used to power a pop up camper and in emergency if lose power to the house. Not concerned about the 800 charge limit as will not be used on a daily basis
Kevin Thomason how was the dokio panel with the EF Delta? I’m thinking of getting the same panel but the 300W panel outputs over 10A (which is the limit for EF Delta)
I have two of the delta units. I paid $800 for one, and $900 for the other new. I love them. They work great! I have a Monster X on order, can't wait to try that. It's going to be 1700 wh.
Thank you for your review. Let me give you my feedback on my experience after one month with this unit. First I charged it up to 100% after I bought it used it and drained it down to about 75% and then recharged it. I let it sit for two weeks and it was 40% of the charge when it was turned off. I don’t see how that can be acceptable at all for a back up power pack. I then tried it on 150 watt heating blanket when it was fully charged and it kept shutting off even though the draw on it was less than 150 watts.
I’m going to call customer service and then I have to return this product and I’m going try to get a refund it’s just not acceptable at all.
This review will influence my decision to purchase. Did you get anywhere with customer service? I don’t want one, if it can’t hold a charge. Thanks
@@danak9245 I did call customer service. They asked me to create videos showing the problem and submit a claim. They said they were review it and provide shipping to have it repaired. but since I bought it REI they have a three month return policy for any reason. so I just returned to REI and got my money back.
My cabin in upstate NY lost power a month ago for 3 days and I was worried about the meat in freezer (which somehow didnt go bad), If I had this then I could of went and plugged the fridge into it, I just ordered mine and some solar panels today. Will bring it back and forth with me to cabin and Brooklyn in the event the power goes out. Very thorough review! Thanks so much
Great channel! Just purchased this today as emergency backup. $973 for power station and 160w panel. Your reviews are great and helped me decide what to purchase. Thank you!
Nice, where'd you find it at that price?
@@techsan4562 eBay!
Another great review. Love the front screen. Very bright and interesting. I prefer the outlets on the front side for portable use. For a stationary home use the rear outlets are cleaner looking. Overall the market is crowded and Jackery will probably drop a 2k unit before long. Sticking with my Goal Zero 1500 for the time being. Thanks for all the work in making this review!
I like mine EXCEPT for the DC output. At only 8 amps output it won't power my diesel heater (10 amps) and will have trouble powering my water pump (8 amps) if my fan and lights are on. AC side is awesome. Powers my water heater, ac, microwave, refrigerator, cooktop, coffee maker anything up to 1800 watts. I like that it's compact and portable and I can charge it while driving, with solar or plugged into grid. It's not for the nomad but great for weekend warrior, cross country travelers or prepper.
Much thanks for the info. This unit sure isn't the Holy Grail, but without you cool people making these videos I wouldn't know the difference!
Thank you! Ken you are not alone.
On sale now for $1,099.00 or $300 off!
I just ordered one from Amazon for $999.00. I already have the Max and two 110 watt Ecoflow Solar Panels and love them.
Here is a question. Instead of tieing 3 units together, I would think, by what you showed. It might be better to use 1 unit, and then batteries after that. It seems like it would be cheaper and more efficient.
Great review Hobo . Unfortunately being in Canada and 44 % exchange rate ,all this great stuff is out of my reach . But its still nice to learn the strong and weak points about a product . Thanks
According to the manual, my microwave cooks at 950W but draws 1200W. It's likely not all the inefficiency is in the Ecoflow's inverter. Great review overall though. I know its old and not Lipo but for $435 refurb from Ecoflow eBay certified I went for it. I don't plan on it ever being used for close 500 cycles.
I am interested to know if the Delta 1300 can be quick charged in under 2 hours from a gas generator such as the Honda 2000 i ? If so, it would allow the user to do the charging in the middle of the day and not have to run the gas generator at anti social times on our crowded UK campsites.
I'm wondering the same thing. Did you ever find out about this?
@@rwilde9800 Sorry no.
@@Gordonafloat Ok thanks.
I have two 300 watt panels connected each 33 v at peak so together they are 66v. I know the max is 400w but I'm not worried about it ever reaching max because I'm not facing the panels at optimal sunlight level. Glad I will probably be okay.
What is the difference between voltagw at open circuit on the solar panel and voltage at pmax
I like the ECOFLOW product designs and the displays, but I've heard from other reviewers that the recharging and inverter are both quite inefficient, well below the efficiency of competing units.
Also, 800 cycles for battery life seems low - that's just over two years of daily use.
We just bought a Ecoflow Delta Max 2000. Our question is if you want to run different things like a fan in your bedroom, a TV in the living room and a refrigerator in the kitchen, can you connect each of these devices to the Ecoflow with extention cords since they are in different rooms? You would think this would be a question everybody would ask, but we haven't seen it in any comments. Thanks.
Great review! With the discount code, I think I might buy two. One unit to run my power tools and a second unit to recharge the first.
Can this work on a food truck?
Will you invent perpetual energy?
I think it might be helpful to address the Ecoflow customer service.
From their forum experience and comments it appears it's very lacking.
Shipping has been an issue also for many Kickstarter customers.
Hopefully they will improve soon if they intend to be a viable competitor!
due to Covid and such,what would you expect
Top notch review and very good assessment of pros and cons.
you cover everything I want to know but still do not comprehend. Thank you. great review.
There seems to be an issue with using the car charger that comes with many of the Ecoflow models. There are numerous reports of the plug heating up and, in many cases, melting. I haven't been able to get much clarity on what might be causing this, either from Ecoflow web forums, or Ecoflow support. I own a Ecoflow Delta 1300 and would like to charge it while driving using the cigarette lighter port in my vehicle. Any ideas what might be happening? It would be great if you could run a test to see if you can get a handle on what is causing this. Thanks
I watched so many videos on power banks. For what I need this will work fine for emergencies. I bought the Delta and also bought the River as well for a CPAP in an emergency. I paid $1980 for both, including 160w panel and 2 solar lights. Not bad. I like how I can change settings to 1800w and can add xtra battery to River. So these should last for years and will be a compliment to the gas generator. I may even but another Delta if the prices continue to drop. I saved a total of $250 on the both Ecoflos..
I got exactly those two ecos. I was wondering have you tried running it while having a solar panel charging it same time. I want to run a small AC
@@kimd7866 It is a UPS (uninterrupted power source) so yes you can charge while using. My daughter keeps her CPAP plugged into the river so when power goes out she won't wake up.
Outstanding review! Your analysis of the tradeoffs was right on.
I do not know what possessed me to pay for one through the kick start program. I first chose the lower wattage model and then upgraded for the higher wattage model. It was a really good deal at the time and I guess it was. Both of my large capacity solar generators EMP proof bags.
What I am looking forward is the reduction in price of LiFePO4 batteries and the application in large capacity solar generators and plug and play stationary power storage systems fed off solar arrays.
I just bought one with 4 solar panels. Best product and deal out there
Hey Tom, great job on the video. I'm still a big fan of the Jackery 1000 & it's ability to run small appliances during a blackout.
@mouseranger I am new to this . I’m going to start the nomad life in a couple months. the one thing I can NOT seem to understand is the electrical . No matter how many vids I watch I don’t get it. If I bought the jackery you bought how much solar would I need to max it to get the most power? I might just head out and find out once I am free and on my new life path. Any input you have I would greatly appreciate
Flower Child: the jackary is just a battery like the power banks (batteries) that you use to charge your phone on the go. You have to charge the power banks in order to give them power to charge your phone or whatever that can connect to it. We charge our power banks at home using a wall outlet with a micro usb cable. You charge this jackary battery like that too or with solar panels. That’s it.
What this guy is doing in this video is mostly for his own entertainment. He’s not teaching anything so don’t expect to learn from it. Take a class on the stuff if you really want to learn the language and math and concepts. But it’s not needed.
The jackary is just a fucking power bank. Which is cool.
I really appreciate your facts-first content. You earned my very skeptical-minded subscription.
I was lucky. The Jackery 1000 (which only has a 1000 watt inverter) was able to power my RV microwave. This RV microwave is a 950 watt (that is input watts) that runs just fine. This is one of the most important things for me as now i do not have to run that stupid, loud generator. A 1500 watt inverter was going to be my minimum that i would accept in a power station, but Jackery got me with that early purchase deal.
Any update on receiving your Y adapter/ parallel cable? I've been back and forth with Jackery and told that they will be ready to ship soon. Still couldn't get a specific date from them however.
@@MaisleyVanGo No, i have heard nothing on the cable.
ROFL! That Knight Rider thing at the end is hilarious!
My main concern is having air conditioner in my converted van. Can you please tell me exactly what I need to purchase for air conditoner.
I was already chuckling about what his cat said in the mic then when I saw the Knight Rider themed EcoFlow Delta digital display I lost self control and LMAO! I'm a Knight Rider fan! : )
I am interested in the AC-efficiency in the UPS mode, with battery 100% full........
Found it at 16:18, it looses 13%!! from AC-in to AC-out.....ouch.....
Hmmm that means they convert AC-in to DC and DC to AC-out and loose a lot....... so not a reall efficient UPS.
Another excellent video, per your usual standard. I think it would be hilarious if you started out your video showing a "solar generator" (the sun) and then a 3-in-1 battery/charger/inverter.
At some point, you really should do a review of the Titan. Each component piece of the Titan weighs almost exactly as much as the EcoFlow Delta 1300. It's about the same price per watt/hr, but has a much more powerful inverter, along with far better specifications, across the board. If price is no object, and you can accept two units weighing about 35lbs each as "portable", then the Titan is the absolute best in class for all of these products labeled as solar generators. It's probably not the right unit for someone in an RV, but is a very good option for off-grid cabins and such.
Thanks for reviewing so many of the common, affordable, and truly portable solar generators.
The Titan is crazy expensive per wh. The battery it comes with for $3000 is only 2000wh and I don't know how much of that is even usable. I will write to them (again) and ask them to send me one to review.
Great informative review. I have one. My use is for periodic blackouts. This morning we had a blackout at 6am and the electric company stated power would be on at 10:30 am. We have a 10-year-old in the online school. I need the router to come on quick fast and a hurry. I had to iron, and I set up one big screen tv. The Ecoflow works well in this niche, which is staying at home due to COVID-19, child or children, items like microwave, flat-screen, and powering lights directly and bringing online Amazon's Alexa. I can assure you, people like me will be considering a power supply throughout this pandemic. With this kind of usage, once to four times a year, I am sure the service life will be long. I don't believe this kind of use of the charge cycle will make me feel cheated. I forwarded this one to my buddy, he also listened for your review about the Beaudens power station. Would you consider articulating scenario(s) to include the utility of reviewed products for First Responders?
I have already subscribed great review.
Bigscreen😘lol
Thanks for ur video .. and the knowledge u have of these generators.. I got a echoflow max for my portable smoker it takes 200watts for the heat rod but after that it draws 30watts continuously for 13 hours.. it does it job ..
"old school pc with big fans in it" - ouch that hurts
Old school PCs used smaller fans they these days, not big ones, that's why they were louder. A smaller fan has to spin faster than a larger fan to move the same amount of air, plus more turbulence equates to more noise. Anything in the path of a fan's airflow will create more noise, so removing poorly designed fan covers can often make them quieter, plus having smooth, ducted edges into the fan can help. This is an area companies will cheap out on and just stick a crappy little 80 or even 60mm fan in their device to cool it, without mush thought to through-flow and its effect on noise.
Finally... Yeah!! Im new to this portable generator game. But i purchased it for my townhome in SC. Lights were out for 3 days few years ago. Had to rent a hotel room. I did not think you were going to test this product. So, I purchased this last week, at a discount and waiting on arrival. I love its quick charge, and the ability to run my cooking appliance(s) for a 3-5 day black out. I also brought jackery 240 at a discount for internet wifi, and small plug-in night lite, and light charging when im away. Not too pleased with the couple cons on Delta, but hey, will get most of the job done... Thank you for the detailed review!
I have been thinking about buying one of these units for a long time. Unfortunately, lithium batteries (even tiny ones like a CR-123) can't be shipped by air to Alaska, and ground shipping is not realistic (or even available as far as I can tell). If I can figure how to get one up here without paying an arm and leg I will get one.
Wow, that's gotta suck. Considering how many devices have lithium cells built-in, that must mean that stuff we take for granted in the lower 48 like laptops and cellphones are rare and costly items! The ATA needs to revise policies to take into account the fact that there are many different lithium battery chemistries, and few are that unstable. As usual, a little industry regulation could really help out both manufacturers, shippers and consumers by making it easier and less costly to ship safer types, and specifying actual procedures for safe shipping.
@@StringerNews1 We can get some of these batteries when big retailers like Fred Meyer ship them by barge. But the average Joe is out of luck The funny thing is we can bring them back on an airplane as long as they are in our carry on baggage. Very screwed up regulations and there is nothing we can do about it but try and find a way to ship them by barge. Crazy.
Plenty of people driving to Alaska in the summer could give it a ride. Sorry-I'm going to the other end of usa
Thanks so much for this valuable video. I ordered it direct from Ecoflow and can not wait to get it.
Quite a lovely video, and the real reason you know why is I both learned a lot ( on the technical side), and then you made me double check whether my Jackery 500 (with its lousy 85w charging wattage) has pass through charging...
and it does just like the 1000, so now I can use my Jackery for the wifi and the alarm and internet during our loadshedding here in SA (scheduled blackouts)
Jackery vs delta vs bluetti shootout
Yes
Must happen!
Delta wins
I'm planning on getting this Delta 1300 for use during power outages. So, a Li-ion NMC power station would be better for my infrequent usage, rather than a LFP one.
Thank you! In the market for a generator before winter arrives. Don't want to be unprepared for another 2 week blackout like last year.
Thank you for all the information. A lot of it goes over my head, but I get the general gist of how you feel about it. I was surprised to find out that the Delta and Delta Pro contain different battery technology. I thought the PRO was just a bigger version of the same thing.
really extensive review! really appreciated. FWIW, doing some research for my SUV camper build out and will probably nix this one from the list, Bluetti EB150 or the AC50 seem like the best options so far...
Wow, I wish I seen this video before I Purchased my Ecoflow from Amazon yesterday. What’s disappointing to me is I can’t recharge it from 500 watt bestek inverter that I carry in my van. I think I was much happier just using my Arkpak 730p.
I own this one, and purchased it for emergencies only. And won't be using it for everyday use. Great review.
You offer a valuable service. When the student is ready the teacher is a hobo.
I have the river 600 with extra battery. Thanks for all the information - you scratched my nerd itch!!
Took advantage of the sale along with your coupon code. You the man. Keep the content coming bruh 💯💪🏾 fyi!! This is cheapest you’re gonna get these
I will watch this video ASAP. Quick questions for anyone. How does this stack up against InergyTek’s Flex1500 with expandable batteries & quick charger capabilities???
I bought one of these about 6 months ago, I started to use it more
often about a month ago, and there seems to be a problem with over
heating, My unit has shut down twice under these conditions, I am
feeding it with two 170 watt solar panels run in series. they are
putting about 250 to 300 watts into the Delta flow I am also pulling
about 200 watts out of the unit to run my small refrigerator about 140
watts and some lights and my laptop. after about 4 hours of use the unit
just drops out the load and I get Zero output, This has now happened
two times this month. I have to turn the unit off and restart it. ????
Just thought you should know.
Ok
you get it sorted, any progress
@@annabanna666 I still have the unit as a back up but now I use a Bluetti 1500, The Bluetti works so well that I have bought a second one. The Bluetti has never dropped out. I have not set up my panels yet this year because I live pretty far north in Pennsylvania. I wish I had not bought the EcoFLow it is also a energy pig it uses so much energy just staying on even without a load. My advice to anyone who is looking for a unit is to stay away from the EcoFlow.
Anybody know how long it would take to charge this from 0% using from car battery while driving? since I'm driving, does it make sense to do this vs running an inverter?
Try watching the video. The answer is there.
I just canceled my Jackery Explorer 1000 order in favor of the Delta 1300. This model is more like a true 1KW solar plant, the solar panels are foldable and waterproof, and I can put 3 of them in series to get a solar charge without impacting battery durability. The $300 price difference isn't much for me and as far as the increased weight in the Delta, that's in part because the power supply is built-in. With the Jackery, you incur the additional weight in the humongous external power brick. (My only regret is that they made this thing look like a PowerMac G4. I hate Macs!) Great review! Sub'd.
Ho Ho HOBO ! Another fine job Professor ! I am waiting for my power to come from the “Cloud”. Problem is the great Sonora dessert 🍨 does not have many Cloudy days. But, I did receive my SunGoldPower portable solar panels and will be testing those today. Only issue so far is no instruction booklet, dud ! So I must use the Professor’s video as my guide. Well, keep Panning for gold and not endemics.
More power and less $$ than my 1000w Oaktek Blue whatever it is called. Happy with it, but tech just gets better and better everyday. Very nice unit! Forget 250w/500w units, go big or go home.
It ran a hand held hair dryer for 1 minute? Wow. So it will run my laptop for maybe 10 minutes? Sign me up, Scotty.
Can the Ecoflow be charged by wind turbine also? Would love to see how it can be done solo or hybrid with solar panels! Keep up the wonderful videos!
25:25 That right there made me go straight to the Bluetti to find out more. I was immediately turned off to find out that it takes 8 hours to charge with AC.
It takes 3 hours with a fast charger. Watch my review on the product.
After charging my Eco Flo Delta to 100% with my solar panel.
I brought it in and plugged in a small TV and the cable box in my room.
I also plugged the unit power cord to the wall outlet and the fan came on immediately.
Even though the Eco Flo Delta displays 100% charge and 99 hours. It will not turn on the TV or cable box.
Question is why won't it turn on the TV and cable box?
And is it safe to leave it plugged into the wall outlet while in use? That is if it will power up my devices.
A very interesting review and extremely helpful for me.
A friend just bought one and asked me of my opinion so that’s why I came to you to find out what I must to offer some informed advice.
This is the looks of things a good unit but the reason why my friend bought it (and I was looking to buy one too after he mentioned it but before seeing this video 👍🥴)
Is this.
We are in the Australian Outback with our Cars and are self sufficient in all aspects but powering our 2 portable fridges ( Waeco CFx 60/70 liter type) plus charging our Detectors and keeping our auxiliary batteries ( i have 4 AGM 105 W/hr deep cycle batteries i use for all that) to keep these fully charged on Solar is a real battle as you can understand.
So my question is this…
Knowing I have a MacBook Pro, plus constantly charge 12 volt accessories plus having 2 x 60 liters Waeco CFX portable fridges/ Freezers connected to my auxiliary battery setup (and I do need to keep them running at -14 degrees Celsius during the day at the very least) what do YOU recommend as a ideal setup for my or my friends needs??
I really would love your feedback and thoughts on this as I must replace ALL my batteries and hence need to buy something that will provide me with the capacity to power all my stuff.
The heat in the Australian Outback can exceed 60 degrees Celsius during the day in summer very easily and nighttime is around 28-32 degrees Celsius on a bad day.
What would you recommend I choose for batteries and a power station??
I currently have 4 x 120 watt 12 volt foldable Solar panels plus 2 fixed panels on my Car roof and trailer 100 Watt and a 160 WATT panel…….once all are connected that offers me a total of around 700 WATT but the Solar charge controller I have is crap and It doesn’t input the power as I had hoped to keep my batteries fully charged.
I would welcome and definitely need advise on how to get the best setup with what I have as I only go to town every few month…..Indo have a Yamaha 2.4KWa generator but the fuel is getting very expensive and I am hence looking at a solution such as the Ecoflow OR the ones that are similar but not as expensive and have a much better battery capacity as you rightly pointed out..
Sorry this is a long message and an unusual request I dare say but I am hoping ypu can offer some sound advice to both me and my friend 🙏🏼
Thank you for an excellent review and I subscribed and look forward to your reply.
Regards Jim 🤠
Thank you for doing this review.
I don't have half a clue what Mr Hobo Tech is saying with most of his discussions about watts and volts (sorry female here). I have this unit AND three solar panels for part of my SHTF plans. I got it to keep a fridge going and the CPAP for my dad....with snowmaggedon last week in TX it kept the CPAP going when my dad needed and when needed kept the fridge going too. We did not use it continously because we had intermittent power. We hooked it to the wall to recharge when there was power. Kept us in power for emergency stuff (plus some power used to power the latte maker 😛).
We got our unit on HSN and paid for it over a three month period, no interest and was actually $100 less than ecoflow website. I also later got the three solar panels too...two through the website and one though HSN and two of those panels were on sale $100 off.
With pass-thru charging, I should be able to use this to “wall” charge the delta pro as an additional solar source.
What they failed to mention is that the amp/hour rating is probably is it were discharge for 20 hours. I do not know how they would know what the load needs to be to make it exactly discharge for 20 hours to dead. The lower the load, the more power you can get out of it. A heavy load will discharge the battery quicker. Maybe the inverter uses more power, is less efficient, at higher draws.
My 12v XT60 connector melted while charging ecoflow plugged into my 2021 Ram sport. It won't power my 15amp appliances ie. Camper air conditioner. Went into protection on my lg OLED TV. And when doing a capacity test I only got 900 watt hrs at .1C. also seems to time out and turn off on our 12v camping fridge... .maybe because it pulls no power for a period of time once it gets to temp? Tried to get warranty Ecoflow is being very Difficult..
How do you use solar panel that has an Anderson plug at the end
Dangit! I just want a consistent #1 choice.
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Excellent analysis of the actual capacity and usage models.
Great review. One of the best I’ve seen on this product. EcoFlow was having a sale a couple of weeks ago and I got it and their River Bank rechargeable battery for $1299. It should arrive at the end of the week. I want to get panels for it, but the ones they sell are very expensive. Thanks again!
Great vid, please review the new Inergy Flex modular system. Pretty sure it's the game changer lion came close to making.
Thumbs up for calling yourself Professor Hobo 😁
So, concerned on keeping this unit as just purchased off Amazon or if I should return this Ecoflow Delta for better and latest Delta Max? Will cost extra $900 though. Is it worth it, perhaps for the long run.
When hooking 3 together in series, can each of them "independently" have their own solar panels?
For example, 4 100 Watt solar panels on EcoFlow unit 1, 4 100 Watt solar panels on unit 2, etc?
No. Only one can be charged.
Came to clean the cat's litter box . . . . stayed 'cause I bought one ! !
It is charging from solar during the day when it is used most = it's battery is like a capacitor giving & receiving power while floating in the middle . In this application it will probably never die since the loads it sees are well below it's capacity .
I really enjoy your reviews , especially the load tests with the Great audio soundtrack bringing edge-of-the-seat anticipation/excitement into the review ! ! ( Ha - ha ! )
ALSO , am thankful for your considerate use of the white-cloth gloves to conceal the egregious disfigurement of your hands from the time you (along with the local townspeople) incinerated that poor monster that was created by Mel Brooks .
T h a n k s ! ! RH
When will you review the EF Delta mini?
Thanks man...don't think it's for me....I look more for longer lasting value ie,cycle life...fast charging time...not that important to me...I appreciate you man!! 😊😊😊
Which power station has the longer life cycle? Did you buy one? Thnx!
Can you do a review of the Westinghouse igen1000s? They both look very similar and I wonder if they have the same inverter.
Love your testing, really good data gathering that is useful to the common person considering so many options while trying to get best bang for the buck.
It seems like every generator is a mix of pluses and minuses. Makes it really hard to decide which one is right for my particular use. We want one to run a refrigerator for a few days in case the power goes out and also run a little portable air conditioner in one of the rooms so we were thinkingof buying two of them. But now that I've seen this review I'm thinking it be better to use the money and get a titan or a blueberry with a bigger power supply. Would appreciate your suggestion
Great review Tom! Hope they let you keep it after that great review! Good option for skoolies.
Agreed!
That is what I want it for. A custom camper van conversion.
$1400 for a power station is nuts. I am not that lazy to spend that when my small generator does a better job.
what size inverter in a car would i need to charge the ecoflow delta from the quick wall charger?
Awe man...you brought back the punches in last vid. What happened? It makes your vids more hard hitting! :)
I only do the fisting part when it's a double product review. Otherwise, it's really not "double fisted".
If it's sold out, it clearly must be a success. The capacity hits from the electronics are not great. Jehu took his apart and said the cells are sort of generic, Chinese apparently. You lose capacity from conversions and the charge cycles cost capacity. Love those LFP where my 4 year olds are still at 90%. Was wondering what happens if you hook up a small generator, one that can't get close to that max charge? Does the generator go into overload or does the Delta adjust? Was wondering if you connected 800 watts of solar and drew 400 watts with the A/C, would it still give you the 400 watts through the inverter, plus 400 watts of charging? These things are getting better, but you really have to need all the capabilities or a bank plus an inverter makes more sense. Thanks. These are fun.
No, you can't use both AC and solar inputs simultaneously. If you use a generator too small, it will overload and stop the generator. There is no self regulating except that the Delta will keep trying to restart the charge cycle. It's 1200w or bust.
800 Cycles to 80%+ capacity is stated on their website. Maybe the improved the internals.
I would use it in a campervan as the Battery/Inverter Solar Controller. Its fast to charge and you wouldnt have to do all the wiring.
No, they changed the stats on their website after the fact.
I have one and only get 500 watt hours of capacity on AC with 80 watts going out.
Not impressed.