The Sopranos -- "Who Am I? Where Am I Going?"
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- čas přidán 8. 06. 2021
- Episode 6.2 "Join the Club"
Starring James Gandolfini
Directed by David Nutter
Written by David Chase
Created by David Chase
Release Date: March 19th, 2006
Episode Wiki: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Join_th... - Zábava
Tony: “So tell me about Costa Mesa”
Bartender: “Round here, it’s dead.”
Brilliant lead up
Can you fill me in?
@@BoJack32 Tonys in a limbo land between his life and his death, and he is faced with both options throughout this episode, and in the next episode his 'guardian angel' and daughter Meadow saves him
Yeah, Costa Mesa (Comatose) in real life is far from "dead". It is a swanky Orange County beach community.
"Around here? It's dead."
he’s in purgatory
@@og_hapsburg7189 of course
@@og_hapsburg7189 Paulie could have done it standing on his head...
@@BarakAlmog
It was him who probably stole his brief case..
@@og_hapsburg7189 Purgatory? I can do 6000 years of that standing on my head!
This is James Gandolfini's actual voice which is funny
I swear sopranos is the most massive show ever. So much character development, different "dreams", different arcs and storylines for multiple characters. If you are going to watch this show, clear your schedule
rip to Paulie Walnuts he passed yesterday
The most complex show about.... life, in all aspects of it.
That's exactly what I tell people when they try saying breaking bad was better..while I do like bb, the only people who actually had character development were Walt and Jesse...every body else in that show stayed the exact same from ep 1 till the end...sopranos you can probably write a book about each character lmao
@J Kim my cock is fat
The best compliment I’ve ever heard about the Sopranos is that it is responsible for starting the second golden age of television. It was so good that the entire television industry stepped its game up.
Tony's a cheater even in an alternate universe.
He's a coozehound
Old habits are hard to change
That's a line right out of Carmella's Gucci hand bag.
Being a scumbag is in the soul.
@@Witnessmoo You would know.
Only this show can make a patio furniture salesman an interesting character
Exterior decorator.
@@Agent1WHis yard looked like shit
@@Agent1W His yard looked like shit. It’s been ages since he’s had his lawn put in.
@@aitismarka9483 He took out *16 animated garden gnomes single-handedly!
It's like a prediction about who Tony would have been if he hadn't been born into the mafia realm.
You can hear Toney’s NJ accent periodically, especially when he was calling his family and when he was going to hook up with this lady.
James Gandolfini himself was from New Jersey - I imagine he's simply using his regular voice for these coma sequences. So, it would still be a Jersey accent, just not nearly as pronounced as Tony Soprano's.
@@kidnamelessyea that was my assumption as well!
Tony talks as James Gandolfini in his dreams
I just noticed this
He has no jersey gangster accent
@@NoticerOfficial in this he's on the verge of dying and Tony is shown what he would be like if he never joined the mob.
Notice that Costa Mesa is right near Finn’s hometown of Mission Viejo. I forgot whether he was supposed to be visiting Meadow out there too in the dream. A few episodes back he dreams about having dinner with Finn’s parents and his teeth start falling out. You rarely hear him mention his daughter’s relationship while awake, but his subconscious revels a certain insecurity about the situation. I wonder if a connection can be made between Finnerty and the person Tony wishes he could be in the presence of those like Finn’s parents. Perhaps another slight metaphor in this scene.
Great catch. I never caught the connection between the names "Finn" and "Finnerty." You're the first person I know of who did.
Wow, very allegorical.
Nah. That’s Annette Bening with Finn’s dad.
@@TheSamLegacy the sacred and the propane
@@miciboo9993 I knew it!
Pain in stomach, from shooting .. didn't even catch that
I missed it too. Man. Every fucking word has meaning
@@jondomanstandup the show was well-written for sure. Do any modern day shows come close to this quality of writing?
‘Join the club’ really got me actually. I recently just finished the sopranos for the first time ever & this episode struck me like no other, mostly due to personal reasons.
I had my father die in an accident this past year and it was the worst few nights of my life. He was fighting in hospital for a straight 3 nights but his wounds were too grievous. The acting from James, Edie, Jamie & Robert was so incredible.. so much so it gave me PTSD.
Aside from that anecdote.. The more supernatural elements & dream sequences of the sopranos are by far some of my favourite moments. It’s the moments that weave on the brink of life and death that make you think… “who am I…. and where am i going?”
I am so sorry for your loss and for everything you and your family went through.
My father died from cancer this year too. I feel your pain brother. Crazy how the world just keeps moving right .
Gunshot wounds? Or natural causes? Regardless it doesn’t matter. I’m sure It taught you to appreciate life! Be careful eat healthy take care of yourself and family. That’s what your dad would’ve wanted. Turn negative into positive!
My deepest sympathy to you and Family. Your Dad is always with you and you with Him. It's the love and memories that will last forever.
"so much so it gave me PTSD."
I feel you, bro. My Dad died from cancer a couple of months ago, and I was with him the moment he did. Because of that, scenes like Johnny Sac's moment of death really freak me out and are just too much to handle right now.
Well, hopefully just right now and not forever; I really hope this hang-up eventually goes away.
But points to The Sopranos for realism, I guess.
Bruh, that look Tony gives him @ 0:55 says everything without even needing to speak. Stellar acting.
Great episode. Near death hallucinations are real. Been there and know. Best show ever.
mind sharing?
story time?
I've had them too
Story time?
I hope you are safe and doing ok now.
When this aired, I thought this was really going to be Tony and he was dreaming of being in the Mob.
Holy shit, thank God you were mistaken. Kinda feel like that would be pretty lame. 😄
@@CyckOneTwists like those can be interesting if executed right, but man it would’ve been so bad imo. Undermines every character arc and personal scene we’ve watched to this point
2:45 the woman addresses him as “Tone” when she takes the phone from the daughter
It sounds like Gloria’s voice
Eerie.
@@mikeg2491I thought it was Charmaine
@@mikeg2491 It's Charmaine
Everything in the hotel, all the dialogue. He is in purgatory. Man the Sopranos is fascinating!
He'll get his briefcase and wallet back once his time in purgatory (Costa Mesa) is finished. Until then he is stuck there and cannot move on.
i was like that in one of my dreams i couldnt move on i was stuck and it was very frustrating
dont you go to purgatory after you die? he never died right?
He'll get his briefcase WHEN YOU FIX THIS DAMN DOOR!!
@@joshualessore7652 Spiderman is that you?
1:36 same music plays as when Tony and Jackie junior are at Vesuvio when T tells Jackie about Richie being a rat.
Nice catch!
I noticed that too
Sharp as a cue ball this one
Which song is it?
@@hoodiestimbs2783That cue, I wonder if it was chalked
I loved the writing on this show
Funny how they got someone who kinda looked like Melfi
great catch i never thought of that - same voice even
@@reallifelebowski4732 His wife also called him "Tone"
@@maxpower2511his wife in the dream was voiced by charmaine
Honestly a wicked episode
Through this whole scene all I hear is "welcome to the hotel California..."
Wait. Oh. Oh FUCK.
Costa Mesa comatose
I love that this detail isn't just a neat anagram for fans to find, fucking everything in this scene is Tony's brain starting to wake up. It's bouncing back and forward between subtext, metaphor, and just text because these dreams are reflecting his brain self-actualising and realising its true identity. Lost wallet -> the brain realising it has an identity, but it's not Kevin Finnerty. Lost luggage means lots of things but the main thing here is occupation. Because that's not his real job, throw that work uniform away. When he's hoping "the other guy" will show up, he doesn't seem to think there's been a mistake, it's like he's already accepted that those things don't belong to him. When Tony just asks what Kevin's name means, the process of self-actualisation is rapidly accelerating. Dialogue ducks and weaves between this fantasy world and brain functions. "Who am I? Where am I going?" Now he's asking these questions out loud and not just giving these deja-vu-filled glances, he's about to wake up.
I also love the little touch where he looks lost without his briefcase, and when he joins the other group he reached down for it again, even though it's gone. Great touch.
There's lots of other more obvious things, but it's astounding how these dream sequences have their own logic that makes complete sense. I think this is the only piece of fiction I've seen that really captures how dreams are where our brains seem to basically process things and what we see is a side-effect of the process. The way the show depicts that through low-key surrealism where the meaning of it all is juuuust out of reach...is haunting.
Yeah.. um, not an anagram. Unless you're hiding that extra A somewhere.
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH@@THEjoelivingstone
Walt fuckin' Whitman ovah heah.
@@THEjoelivingstoneAdding an O.
46 years old, just a kid.
Clean slate episode..like the coldness..freshness..underrated.
Fav episode of entire show.
Tony paused and looked like he was having deja-vu after the bartender said the word "dead"
The discomfiture really starts to set in around 3:36 .
This episode had such a strong effect on me. I was 20 now Im 36 and feel like Tony "who am I? Where am I going?" I felt like this since I was 12 years old when I saw a documentary about the world and universe how everything eventually will die. Endless black forever. It just made everything so meaningless in my mind even as I kid. I still feel the same no matter what we do eventually we die like everything else.
You could say things are meaningless. You could also say that the fact you will die and rejoin the infinite nothingness is the only thing that could give existence meaning. Every moment is infused with substance and value simply because it's happening. Would life become more meaningful if it never had an end? Doubtful. The significance of each moment would be diluted and the choices would have no stakes.
@John-Luc Giddings hell because that's where all the fun people will be
If you're unable to find or create meaning here and now, you never will. I guess for someone like you, you should be content that you won't have to spend too long in a meaningless existence.
I had those panic attacks at about 22
A breeze of Eastern wisdom on the issue ....czcams.com/video/vQ7ZvPghdy8/video.html
That sounded like Gloria on the phone.
Adrianna
Charmaine
Shinebox
@@Lit_Papi the real answer
Gabagool.
Even Kevin Finnerty wanted to slap that dude
one of my fav episodes of the series !
"We just sold our gear and coupling unit to Wheela-brator to focus on pumps and compressors."
"Interesting"
Yeah the dialogue is so strange and makes no sense in this scene. Makes it all the more eerie.
I needed to see this, it's as if the universe was talking to me
That's the most clear scotch I've seen poured.
interesting how when Tony sees that religious ad on TV and sees the cross he kind of subtly recoils in fear
Its funny thats james real voice
“tell me about costa mesa”
*giggles in OC*
rip Paulie Walnuts
Genius writing
0:44 I feel like Gandolfini is actually saying "Kev Infinity" here, not Kevin Finnerty. Anyone else hear that or am I just imagining things.
Actually I thought about it too
I agree.
@@ConstantineAndreas It is because he wants to live forever. "Infinity." He is in purgatory state in here and tries to decide if he should stay (die) or not.
My first time watching the series recently, I didn't know if this was James Gandolfini's real voice or whether the Tony voice was.
Everybody in this scene is somebody from the show. The guy at the bar is Ralphie, the woman is Gloria Trillo.
The voice of the wife on the phone is Charmaine's
Why would that guy be Ralphie and not someone else
is the bald guy who invites him to the table Artie? His only friend, insisting that Tony is someone worth being social with, because of his implicit value and NOT his material value or from what can be gained from him (in contrast to all those people who say they're his friends but just want money, or protection)
Mr gandolfini's real voice
The look Tony gives the guy after he tells the car joke is mob boss Tony not brief case carrying after life tony lollol
I like that T went to Costa Mesa in his fever dream and also stayed at Caesars Palace.
2:48 Charmaine
I don't know if im in a minority but i love the coma scenes. I kinda wish season 6 started with Kevin without any explanation.
the superficial feel of every aspect of this tony’s life is interesting and it feels like this is possibly a deep fantasy of his. to be his definition of a shmuck, an average joe who is still exceptional in some ways (he gets the woman’s heart despite him being married, he’s an upstanding guy, he went from patio salesman to “optics engineer” or whatever). And still, maybe it isn’t a fantasy as much as it is a self-reassurance for Tony. Assurance that the life of the painfully normal (opposite from the way he sees his course of life, despite him actually following tradition and holding great value in it) will end with lack of fulfillment and fear that not enough pleasure has been had. We see this reasoning (again, since this is all in Tony’s mind) with Tony falling down the stairs and getting Alzheimer’s as a results. On top of this, he’s Kevin Finnerty (essentially). In a world where your documentation is the only proof or marker of one’s existence, he might as well be Kevin Finnerty. And Kevin’s identity shows most likely another fear of Tony’s when thinking about a ‘normal’ course of life, that he is a man in a mold, not unique, interchangeable
Even under a coma induced dream and different identity he attempts to cheat on his wife
She's a babe being a middle aged business chick out there making a living
Join the GROUP (club) and get a GROUPER sandwich, and make it a blackened (DEAD) one.
"Round here, it's DEAD"
Multiversal sopranos
His wife is charmaine in the dream, the distinct sexy rasp in her voice.. noticed right away
Help I'm stuck in soprano clips
I need to re-watch this series, because either I forgot what this dream sequence was supposed to represent, or I didn't properly understand in the first place. Was it suppose to be Tony dreaming of an alternate reality, where he was a honest guy with a straight job? If it is, it's a lovely diversion to the usual stuff in this show. Either way, I would have loved a whole new show based around Kevin Finnerty. Same clever writing but different characters.
"Sittin' on a park bench; do do do do do..." : …
This reminds me of Robert sepher book! 1666 redemption of sin
1:43 what's that song?
There was an Easter egg in the Many Saints of Newark about this episode
Around here - it's dead.
Scotch rocks is a bigdog order for one on the house.
costa mesa= comatose !
Credit to the guy in the comments discovering this
The grouper sandwich sounds vile.
The accent drop is top tier acting
Sopranos purists love these episodes ❤️
The casuals hate them
The one and only bad episode in the series is In Camelot. That’s only because of the painfully awkward Happy Birthday song scene with the hot granny. lol
@@kaj7135 I mean, that was clearly the intention of that scene.
@@kaj7135 just like the “Happy Birthday Ted Beneke” scene from Breaking Bad! Lmao
No, some of us hated this part of the show
It sounds like James Gandolfini was using his real voice for this
You Sopranos fans, you go to far.
Tony is huge here.
Rubenesque
0:48 Bald Ralph from a dream
Around here it’s dead . It’s like a 10 minute drive to Newport Beach. What a place
For a moment I thought the bartender was Paul O'Neill
most underrated Yankee ever
“US Drillbit, Aerospace and Industrial Equipment. We just sold or gear and coupling unit to Wheelibrator to focus on pumps and compressors.”
Interesting!
DEATH IS AN ILLUSION!
I just noticed he dropped his NY accent
So his wife in this parallel world was Charmaine?
I think she’s actually the brunette mistress who threw the slice of meat at him. Was her name Gloria?
@@BELL314159 ah yes Gloria, could be
I think the fact that those two sound similar is part of it.
Dude that bartender might be able to scrap Tony up lol he taller
That Lexus joke was buns
Ok this is crazy but at the start the TV behind the bartender seems to be showing footage taken from a helicopter LOOKIN FOR A PERP!
0:59 ralphy
1:56 Changed his mind quick.
"Tell me about Costa Mesa."
"Around here, it's dead."
Around here, it's dead. Aha.
At 2:08 the female server is Adrianna (Christopher's girlfriend)
Where’s Tony’s New Jersey accent
Seems that without his briefcase (his identity), he’s lost his accent too
It’s his coma dream
In this dream Tony sees what his life would've been if he never joined the mob
BORGETTO SICILY COME VISIT US
Omg Gloria is the wife on the phone in the dream sequence!!
The subtitles incorrecrly say Carm on HBO Max, too.
It’s closer to real voice but still not exactly that. His voice was not as accentuated irl
Are sin, death, and disease real? Tony literally turns away from redemption
Damn is that kevin finnerty he burnt my nana's house down those faulty whatevers
Hey the Bartender is that one guy Vince who was Pheobe's BF in Friends Season 3
Kevin finnernty found him lol
Col. Winters ?
He was a perfect fit to work for a central bank
I couldn’t get over the generic white man accent Tony spoke in in this dream, it made the dream feel all the more feverish and distant, genius.
That's Gandolfinis real voice.
How does a company called "US Drillbit" start making pumps and compressors. Makes no sense. 😅
The same way the The Connecticut Leather Company (Coleco) ended up building video game consoles.
Is it me or did that sound like adrianna on the phone as Tony's wife
The illusion of shrinking my entire bottom half of my body was meant to make me think the only place i could get it fixed was in prison...
My brothers chinese talk about that subject is why i blamed him...
It remains shrunken
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what the fuck
guys on shrooms
@@chdanish6568 lol maybe its a poem
nice poem
Maybe it's just me but I didn't care for all the dreams in the last season, I' prefer reality even if it's just acting rather than acting inside a dream!
Notice when he answers the phone Gloria is his wife
Pretty sure it's Charmaine, Artie's wife. Early on in the show she brings it up to Carmela that her and Tony hooked up when they were young, so this is a life he may have had if he ended up with her, considering that she harshly chastises Artie for any tangential mob involvement whereas Carmela is 100% enabler
@@jacobcrist3080 naw it’s Gloria, she was more important to him then fuckin arties wife 😂 especially after yk
@@5double0fiend96 I don't hear Gloria's voice at all so after a bit of digging I found that they hired another actress with no other role to do the voice. It's not meant to be any other woman on particular, just easily recognizable as not Carmela, apparently
the voice on the phone kind of sounds like a mixture of all the women he's been with
It’s Gloria