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Buying your first used boat !!! ???Inboard or Outboard
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Just going to state my opinion on him. inboard engines/ sterndrive engines are actually really easy to work on if you look at the motor before you buy it you Will find out what the condition is but with an outboard the motor is mostly covered with plastic. Inboards are very easy to work on even without pulling the engine out
Outboards are outselling stern drives all across the market, even on larger high end boats
I like outboards best. We have an inboard/outboard, and it is so hard to work on. Our outboard fishing boat, I can work on it so easily. Never gives me any trouble. Our outboard is 2 cycle.
Boston Brown I love the sound the 225 hp Johnson 2 stroke V6 outboard makes on the Larson 186 SEI my dad used to own. It’s a very sweet sounding engine and pushes the boat to 53ish mph after the SS prop is installed.
I have been an auto mechanic since childhood. 2 years of tech school, heavy equipment in the Army & more shops etc. than I can remember. I don't know ( shi-! ) about a boat so I am just learning. I just bought a 14 ft. McKee craft so here I go! Thank you for your information I am sure it will help me on my quest!
That inboard must be the most difficult and crammed in inboard I've seen for a long time.Inboard are much lighter on fuel, than outboards.
No way dude.. I’ve had both myself also And I/O is much cheaper and much more do it yourself mechanic work
Outboards from the experience i had with them, are not as reliable and very expensive to buy parts for
But you do hear the opposite from most boaters ill agree.. for me its no question
I/O
maybe if they were designed to be intuitive..simple maintenance parts should have easy access. Like government cars are designed to be easy to work on. Chevy Impala, had water pump access on top on the engine bay.
I bought my first stern drive years ago...bowrider with a 3(?) Litre 4 cylinder Merc and Alpha 1 leg. Having worked on cars for decades, I was amazed at how simple and easy this motor was to work on. There was a lot more room than on this Trophy. I needed few parts that were all readily available and comparable to car prices. Many of the parts have car cross-references.
I love the low center of gravity, muffled quietness, torque and response from stern drives rather than the lightweight noise and blocked rear view of an outboard. All parts for an outboard are OEM only as each machine is so specifically designed. I run lakes only and trailer my boats so all the issues of salt and growth are not a consideration.
At the end of the day, for freshwater trailered boats and owners handy and willing to turn wrenches, I/O are fine.
Most boats are as hard as this one to access.
Still inboards for me.
Ive worked on both I/O and outboards. None were built to be easy. Ive stood on my head many aday working on these things. You can reach alot more than you think.
after working on a 2 stroke jet ski, I realized working on inboards suck.... Don't buy old jet skies or inboards.
This is NOT an inboard. This is a the engine from a stern drive (also called and inboard/outboard) boat. Big difference. He called it an inboard, it is not
Be careful - this is not an inboard engine, it's an inboard/outboard or stern drive. True inboard engines are typically in larger boats and they have a lot of room around them for maintenance. I have an I/O but it's an inline 4 cylinder (3.0L Merc) and because it is narrow I can do many of the repairs you noted in the boat. No I can't remove the oil pan without pulling the engine but I can replace the starter without too much issue. The problem is with V engines (V6's or V8's) like the 4.3 in this boat. It's about 50% wider, and much tougher to work on. Pulling the engine from any I/0 (whether it's a 4, 6 or 8 cylinder) is a lot of work and not for the faint of heart.
I've owned 8 boats. Outboards, IOs and straight inboards. I've never had to replace one. If you take care of them, they'll take care of you.
Steven Lucas is one cheaper to maintain? Generally not model specific
@@kentbremner7828 Running in saltwater the raw water cooled inboards were higher maintenance due to the salt rotting out the exhaust manifolds even when fresh water flushed.
I prefer outboard motors. Easier to service due to 360 degree access to components after popping off the top plastic/composite cover off with just flip a couple latches, and the waste cooling water and exhaust goes straight down the midsection and out the prop making it a much more reliable system, and the water pump is just above the prop drive gear case making the task a breeze. As a bonus the sound they make especially the 2 stroke ones is just music to my ears. Sterndrives/inboards suck unless it’s a yacht, or an actual ship.
Outta mo-bill engine lol🤣😂🤣👍
But Seriously i dont deal with inboard engines period, i have to keep moving when im ready for the water...... put a new engine on an go , i love outboard engines
Thanks for sharing your experience, Alex. I scored a free boat and trailer. I have the mechanical ability to wrench on the thing. I was looking forward to the challenge. The thing is, my wallet is very light. So, using your video as a guide, I think I'm going to trade it away for a smaller boat with an outboard motor.
Trust me ben there done tha. Outboard motors it’s only good for the space in the boat. It’s not easy like u think. Most of outboard motors when the piston go u got throw in trash or pay arms and legs to get fix cause they always blew the piston housing. And they parts is extremely small wit lots of springs and rubbers. Googles and see how many outboards out there laying on the pallets 🤦🏽💯
To the public comments thank you also. You have given me points to ponder & investigate that I had not even thought of.
Thanks for the video brotha
There is a big difference between an inboard out power and a full inboard.
the full inboard has a lot more room around thee engine
Que madre. Ya compre el barco. Es un I/O del 1988. El primer problema fue el filtro de combustible e cerca del carburador. Estaba lleno de material oxidado. El transom se ve bien pero vamos a ver si salimos nuevamente este fin de semana.
YES D. TRUMP WILL DO JUST FINE.....
In a funny way motorboats seems to be a mini universe of the family structure of choice.
Excellent honest review... Thankyou!👍😎
I just bought a pontoon, but the cover is busted on the engine, will this affect the performance,do I need to take it off beforehand or can I leave it, it's a big mercury 2 stroke,this pontoon was well taken care of the only problem is the engine cover.
What will be a good outboard manufacturer with a lot cheaper after market would you recommend ? Thanks.
If you have a bad starter preparate to pull it I have searay 21.5 with 305 with a bad starter with no room to take off the bracket bolts also if you have an oil leak again you have to pull sucks ruins the ease these engines have to work on
Thanks great and clear advise
There is a late model Bayline trophy with a inboard engine for sale that I like. The inboard engine is messed up and if I buy it I will take it out and get rid of it and get a out board engine instead. You think I should still buy it?
What about a use19 trophy with a cuddy cabin 150 Mercury out board? What would recommend for the minimum length small boat for inshore offshore ocean boat ?
Has anyone else noticed that "the inboard" is not an inboard. It a stern drive.
Ryan Moranville only the people that know the difference between stern and inboard.
How much money buy the engine mercury in board?
Hello Alex thank you for unload this video help me a lot but I have question Im trying to buy a boat it's inboard engine but I think it's inside the box that you can open and you can work without problem on the engine.. it's Mercury 3.0 I just saw the pic how can I send you the pic and you can check..thanks
Buying our first I have both an inboard and a outboard I’m interested in this is great info!
Personally I'm with you! No inboard/outboards, No fourstroke outboards! One more disadvantage to leg drives is the fact that the powerdrive does two right angle turns that suck up Power! The probability that the bellows will leak on the leg of a vessel stored in the water is high! Also the water cooled exhaust manifolds and rises need to be replaced between 5 & 10 years!
Thank you I just bought a motor without motor and started thinking about inboard. Now I stopped. Four stroke engines has a hands down mileage compared to two stroke. Did I understand you right? Did you promote two stroke? Thanx man..
Wait what do you have to change the exhaust manifolds every 4 years? I have never heard this before
ils360 even more frequent if running in saltwater because the raw water is sucked in the manifolds and risers to cool them. Kind of like a pipe inside a pipe, the water runs in the space between. Since they are cast iron, they will rust eventually and must be changed before it rusts through the inner pipe.
@@aintraboona That's true however this is the case because most boat owners don't maintain them correctly. There are anodes in the cooling system that need to be changed out as needed.. They are designed as sacrificial alloys so that the exhaust manifolds don't corrode. Most owners don't even know they have them never mind changing them out. Consequently they rot away and then the manifolds get attacked by the salt water.
Damn my pops just got him self a inboard motor boat.....
Awesome timing ti see your video. Thanks man helps
14 f polor craft 25hp Mercury great fishing boat
Great knowledge. Thanks
spend money on outboard instead of boat if limited in cash
Excellent! Thank You!
What do you think about jet boats? I am about to buy a sugar sand tango jet boat what are your thoughts about this boat?
What about central engine are they easier to access ?i want to buy a boat next summer i was looking an svfara central engine 2007
I heard Bayliner and had to bail...
Cigar Dave my bayliner (CL1950 with 3.0 mercruiser) I have had for 16 years since new.. only ever serviced it.. runs perfect... and she gets used a lot..
I like I/O aka stern drive better. Easier since it is more like a car. That’s what Im familiar with. Some and lots aren’t as tucked in as the one I. The video. Inboard is different. That’s like V drive. It’s whatever you like I guess
I just had a boat motor and trailer given to me i have to remove the inboard engine and put it in a stamas 26' i have a used 200 hp evanrude im going to sale any one interested it a 2007 im asking 1000.00 for the motor not sure what shape its in but i was told it runs and it looks like its in pretty good shape other than the cowling is cracked and needs to be replaced.
buena explicación. me aclaraste la duda que tenía
so what do you think about honda 4stroke outboard ? me like the new 2 stroke evinrude engine... would you go for a new 2 stroke evinrude out board ? thank you.
Bryson Kennedy don’t go for the evinrude bullshit
@@jab2go69barrett8 Right, they have great advertising and hype from those who don't own one but are sadly junk. RIP Evinrude I grew up with. I work for a marine dealership mainly Yamaha/Suzuki last year a e tec fan boy had to have us order his boat with a e tec 150 for his 18' Campion. Of all the 160 Yamahas and suzukis we sold last year we sold 1 E tec and that was the only engine to have any problems what so ever. The power head seized and melted the pistons at 25 hours. wtf
@@darrenalkire5281 Lol most definitely ran it out of oil. Have had a 2007 250hp Evinrude E-Tec for 8 years with just over 1,000 hours with not even a hiccup. You hear people complain about injectors but in all reality if you aren't running non-ethanol fuel you are gonna gum up the injectors. This also applies to carbureted outboards as well. I've had a 20hp 4 stroke Honda on my aluminum boat. I'm unsure of the hours that it had but despite rinsing it, (it was ran in saltwater,) it seemingly dissolved and succumbed to corrosion.
@@braedenwims3763 Shouldn't it shut down or limit rpms if it's out of oil? This guy was running 4500 and it straight seized. The local e tec dealer, we are friends has admitted there are lots of problems and they change allot of powerheads. If you have one with high hours and no problems you are lucky and it will probably go forever. But very often that's not the case. Many have early failures and chronic pronlems.
@@darrenalkire5281 Well I'm no certified outboard mechanic, but if I had to guess he might have limped it home despite the beeping and if there was no oil in the first place then it would overheat and seize. That is if the computer didn't tell it to shut down. Could be possible that there was an impeller failure, but then again it would have to have sent an alarm to the driver. Possibly a problem with the computer? If I'm not mistaken, the computer regulates oil distribution. I guess if there was a series of those unfortunate events, then that could explain it. Possibly a lemon motor. All I know is that I've never seen an E-Tec stranded out here on Puget Sound, Police and some game warden boats use them and same with many PNW boats there too. I think Evinrude E-Tec gets a bad rep because people that have problems with them will go online and complain. What your missing is that the millions of people that own Evinrudes and don't have a problem have no reason to go out of their way to appreciate their motors online. I know there is some bias bs from other outboard fanboys that go online and complain about Evinrude, despite not even owning one. Seemingly making up stories to make themselves feel better about their Yamaha or Mercury. I'm not bashing any outboards, however I feel that if you take care of any brand, they will take care of you.
No inboard that’s an inboard outboard not an inboard.
i agree and thank you for all that, great
Best info on boats that shows you what could happen. Thank you
Good video. Thanks
I hate when you buy it, only to find out went out in the water for the 1st time the gimbal barring is bad.. Ugh..
I hear you but gimble bearing is easy to replace with the puller, hardest part is removing the drive
Legendary Yamaha last the test of time 2stroke or 4 stroke
Good info 👍
Imagine a Hyundai or Toyota engine in there. Car engines have such a great power to weight ratio these days. I know that some people go though a lot of work to retrofit automobile engines in planes for that reason. Aviation engines are so out of date when compared to car engines with equal horsepower. I imagine it's a similar situation with boats, but unlike a plane you need it to be cooled with water, so it would probably be near impossible.
However in my eyes the best modern engine for reliability is the Hyundai 2.0 4 cylinder with port injection, timing chain, & NATURALLY aspirated. None of that turbo crap which even Toyota is getting on board with now.
It only makes about 150 horsepower so it isn't that powerful compared to other stern drive or inboard engines, especially since when you get a stern drive its cause you probably need something more powerful, so due it its class it wouldnt make much sense to put that in here.
However throw that thing in a gyrocopter, or light aircraft & you'll have the time of your life with a very reliable engine.
At first I thought, HYUNDAI? But their crap, but my brother has had that car for 4 years now (not long), but has a tow strap on it, tows trailers, his small boat, & seafood every weekend with a full trunk & 4 people inside. We also went on 2 a road trips together with that car to BC, & down through America, California, Utah, Nevada. We zig zagged though the United states for a month. In total we put over 20,000KM on that car from that trip alone. He has taken it to flordia every year (I fly lol), & goes on his own trips. Last I remember he told me it just got over 200,000km in just 4 years.
When my car kicks the can I think I'll get a larger Hyundai SUV instead of the sedan, & that'll late me until I'm married with kids turning 10 lol.
thank guy , you save me from spend a lot of money.......
in which situation use inboard motor mostly?
fresh water lake ski boats.
I'm planning to buy a fiver glass fishing boat from China or try to make by myself.
Brother if you buy a boat from China please let me know how you did it cuz I've been thinking about this for a while they do have a lot of different models over there that we don't have here and the pricing seems to be really good
I picked up a 90 bayliner with an old evinrude 115? What do you think?
I think no one cares about you and your boat. Tell your mommy about it.
@@JustMe-999a you probably live with your step mom
Good review thx
I work for a company that manufactures over 1000 marine inboards and 200 outboards a year, Both are expensive and anything boat is expensive. That 4.3 inboard vortec you have on the boat you can get it brand new with 3 year warranty for $7800.00 producing 220hp (turn key) no out board brand new cost that. a Brand New Suzuki 225hp your talking about $ 15,000.00 Inboard is a lot cheaper. Parts for inboard Mercruiser is cheap and easier to find because they have a lot in aftermarket. If you have Volvo Penta then hold on to your pockets because it is expensive. You can't compare one to another. I recommend going new because salt water id a killer and that 2 storke is going to give nothing but problems that's why they stop making it.
Miami Salt Life - I thought they stopped making 2 stroke outboards to reduce emissions and simplify things (no mixing gas+ oil).
absolutely your right
Thanks for your advice. My boat will have an outboard.
100% 2 stroke are much easier. Outboard better.
No one builds 2 stroke outboards any more. The last one was Evinrude but they stopped making 2 stroke outboards a couple years ago. Only 4 stroke outboards these days
Maybe thats your first experience with an inboard..now let me tell you.. yes outboard are somehow with some experience or expertise easier to handle as far as fixing little things..but..outboard takes 50% more maintenance than inboard..also mercury is crap..next time suggest Yamaha..lol. specially on a new owner..Yamaha are wayyyyyyyy stronger and can sure hold a beating.. back to inboard. Not all inboard motor boats have so little space like yours..I also own a bayliner..but a ciera..25 ft 1986... I have enough space to put 20 of me down there...and has easy access to must components..except the oil pan. I have a volvo penta aq225e. .. AND FOR THOSE NEW TO INBOARD ENGINE please, please one main thing that literally destroy this engines are the manifold and risers( or elbow) .. salt water and a good mix of oxygen will create a lot of oxidation and start to close those cooling water ways up in the elbow not allowing hot water to get out and bye bye engine..they a little expensive yes..say 800 or so to get all parts..but well worth it and if you flush your system you can look at at least 4 years of life on them
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Tienes toda la razón del mundo .
nice video... nice..
That is a Bayliner the worst of the worst boats you can buy
nice info buddy
i need help i have a grady white with two mercury 200 hp one is give me problems not turning over
Brother you need to give me some more information it's clicking when you turn the key? it is stuck in forward or reverse gear ??
great video. thanks for the info.
Boy you can talk! Much of it didn't make any sense! You just broke the spirit of a lot of people out there. Things are as hard as you make them. Simple!
A boat is a hole in the water to throw money in
THE DAYWALKER why are you watching this then? Boating is a way of life.
As the old adage says: my 2 best days were: the day I bought mine, and the day I SOLD it.
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I am a marine technician and I HATE I/Os. Never buy one more than 10 years old and if you already have one sell it before 10 years. If someone gives you one for free they aren't doing you any favors.
Why talking to us with these sunglasses ?
Pierre Morin what does it matter what's he wearing lol
Big help
I would like to get some help from you
What can I do for you buddy
Ok can you help me out about my engin problem. When i started my engin there is something click but won't turn on is like when i turn it on there is like sound clicking so what you know about that kind of problems
I think he farted at 10:28.
Why did you even make this video. Just say don’t go inboard. I have two inboard boats. No issues.
kent kirkpatrick I'm going to ask you again cuz I don't want to have to erase your comment because of poor common sense how do you go to fix if you have a hole in the bottom of your fuel tank and if you have a Wellcraft Excel how you going to pull the engine up without removing the outdrive if it barely have 3 inches from the front of the engine to the wall of the boat Common Sense common sense please
Stern drive: all the problems of and outboard and all the problems of an inboard. Stay away.
rename video to 'Why inboards suck'
Working on them sucks. Our family loves them. We do maintenance every year on a I/O pontoon. We have minimal problems. I have a 200 hp mercury that I put 2 thousand dollars in 2 years ago With doing yearly maintenance. I would say it just comes down to luck. On the other hand I have a set of jet skis that always break down for one reason or another. Like I said luck..........
sell the boat and buy gold
Couldn't hear him clearly