How Accurate are Dinosaur King's "GRASS" Dinosaurs?

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  • čas přidán 10. 09. 2024

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  • @killdozer7792
    @killdozer7792 Před 5 měsíci +182

    The fact that Dinosaur King remains one of the ONLY dino-media out there that doesn't portray ornithopods as helpless sacks of meat simply there to be eaten by theropods is kinda disappointing.

    • @MSKS-jl2qk
      @MSKS-jl2qk Před 5 měsíci +11

      They did a few times though.

    • @davyjones3755
      @davyjones3755 Před 5 měsíci +4

      They kind of showed it,they made them grass type,and the rex and other rex like dinosaurs are fire type,meaning they're stronger then the ornithopods

    • @MSKS-jl2qk
      @MSKS-jl2qk Před 5 měsíci

      It’s wind dinosaurs that are stronger than them.@@davyjones3755

    • @UltraPoseidon
      @UltraPoseidon Před 5 měsíci +4

      Iguanodons are often portrayed as tough. But that's due to the thumb spike.

    • @joelindaquinn
      @joelindaquinn Před 5 měsíci +6

      @@davyjones3755 iirc the maiasaurus and fukuisaurus one shotted Terry, who is a fire type but also kinda treated as a jobber, so ig there's that

  • @jeromebuck9279
    @jeromebuck9279 Před 5 měsíci +45

    I like how this show has lesser known dinosaurs in the show

  • @jurassicswine
    @jurassicswine Před 5 měsíci +80

    I can’t tell which version of hadrosaur hands is more cursed: hoof or no hoof. Both feel cursed in their own way

    • @chadgorosaurus4898
      @chadgorosaurus4898 Před 5 měsíci +6

      No hooves is more cursed. Why do they have highly developed fingers 💀💀💀

    • @isaacslein6432
      @isaacslein6432 Před 5 měsíci +5

      Here's something more cursed: the crests of Maiasaura, and Ouranosaurus may have supported balloon sacs based on a recent study that hypothesises such condition for Prosaurolophus

    • @jurassicswine
      @jurassicswine Před 5 měsíci

      @@isaacslein6432 I kinda like it honestly. Cursed but in a cool way

    • @dagoodboy6424
      @dagoodboy6424 Před 5 měsíci

      No hoof. Usually no hoof hadros got weird fleshy pads.

    • @TheMightyN
      @TheMightyN Před 5 měsíci

      @@chadgorosaurus4898Dude you act you were born yesterday. The hands always were that way in both books and media.

  • @ddddangerous7125
    @ddddangerous7125 Před 5 měsíci +38

    let's go, can't wait for water with all the spinosaurs

    • @evodolka
      @evodolka Před 5 měsíci +4

      All 4 of them

    • @beastmaster0934
      @beastmaster0934 Před 5 měsíci +4

      Water was pretty much the wastebasket type.
      The others had a sort of theme
      Fire had most of the giant theropods
      Electric had the ceratopsians
      Earth had the Thyreophorans
      Plant/Leaf had the ornithopods
      And Wind had all the small to medium-sized theropods
      And then there’s Water, which had spinosaurs and sauropods.

    • @evodolka
      @evodolka Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@beastmaster0934 i remember looking this up, apparently the reason was due to Spinosaurs being fish eaters and sauropods in old depictions in art always being within lakes, if this is true then it's a really cute reference

  • @ukotoa1639
    @ukotoa1639 Před 5 měsíci +38

    When I played the Dinosaur King arcade I only cared about the grass ones, I love me some hadrosaurs

  • @dudotolivier6363
    @dudotolivier6363 Před 5 měsíci +25

    It was a great video as always.
    About the Grass Dinosaurs, it's quite weird that the genus Hadrosaurus, the namesake of the entire Hadrosauridae family isn't represented at all over all the franchise.
    It would have been a neat addition.

    • @HodgePodge7
      @HodgePodge7  Před 5 měsíci +8

      Yes, I had that exact thought myself whilst researching for this video.

    • @dweebteambuilderjones7627
      @dweebteambuilderjones7627 Před 5 měsíci +12

      Their species selection was honestly very weird. Not just one but _two_ synonyms of _Centrosaurus_ alongside the valid genus, numerous genera that were dubious/synonymous at the time or on their way to becoming dubious/synonymous, heavy bias against small dinosaurs, no prosauropods, and no _Brachiosaurus_ (which I am _still_ salty about).

    • @evodolka
      @evodolka Před 5 měsíci +3

      ​@@dweebteambuilderjones7627the lack of Brachiosaurus is VERY strange indeed, maybe they were saving it for a secret type?

    • @Geniusprimate
      @Geniusprimate Před 5 měsíci +1

      Hi​@@HodgePodge7, I'm a biologist and I'm gonna teach you about biology of organisms both fictional and real

    • @dweebteambuilderjones7627
      @dweebteambuilderjones7627 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@evodolka Doubt it. The Secret dinosaurs were chosen because they were famous for something extreme ( _Eoraptor_ was once believed to be the first dinosaur to ever evolve, _Megalosaurus_ was the first non-avian dinosaur to be named, _Brontosaurus_ used to be the most famous sauropod prior to Jurassic Park, _Cryolophosaurus_ was the first non-avian dinosaur from Antarctica to be named, _Deinonychus_ started the Dinosaur Renaissance and appeared in Jurassic Park) or for something strange about their bodies once considered unique among dinosaurs ( _Therizinosaurus_ ' claws, _Pachycephalosaurus_ ' thick skull). And then there's _Pawpawsaurus_ , which seems to be included for no real reason at all.
      My guess is the developers just didn't like sauropods very much. Seriously, there were only four genera with body lengths above seventy feet in the game, no prosauropods appeared, only two genera became Alpha Dinosaurs and _none_ of them became a Black Dinosaur, and the anime imo did sauropods _very_ dirty too.

  • @tongatapu7325
    @tongatapu7325 Před 5 měsíci +18

    Probably my favorite element in the game. Charonosaurus and Parasaurolophus are my favorites.

  • @yujinjin2505
    @yujinjin2505 Před 5 měsíci +14

    I love how you're discussing Dinosaur King for how relatively accurate designs (for the time compared to the wave of "awesomebro" paleo-media in the drought between JP3 and JW)
    How it managed to get so much right, as well as represent many obscure taxa in interesting ways. Gives me great appreciation for the design team, which managed to give interesting yet pleasing colour-schemes to many of these. The great attention to detail on the science of these animals, not conflicting with the fantastical aspect of these creatures battling one another while wielding elements, but rather informing aspects of them to be more unique. Feels like if any franchise gave that kind of attention to detail, and creativity recently (as opposed to the norm of poorly copying JP/JW) we'd have much better paleo-media and gateway access into the field.
    As for my idea on the element being "grass" and not "leaf" or "plant": I believe it's a similar reason as to why pokemon that use plants are also grass type. Specifically in Dinosaur King, each of the elements shown have corresponding Kanji as labels. I don't know enough about the Japanese language to know exactly why, but I ponder if it's because the symbols for grass, 草(kusa/sou) might be written or said more comfortably with the other elements than 葉(ha/you) or even the word for "plant" 植物(Shokubutsu) which requires two characters and might make it seem out of place with the others. Perhaps 草食(Soushoku) "grass eating" being a word for herbivory as a whole might have something to do with it as herbivorous animals including dinosaurs would usually be described as such. Also, if the series followed Taoist five elements "grass" element could be replaced with "wood/tree" 木(ki/moku) but that doesn't seem to be the case as wind and lightning aren't part of that.
    Just an interesting thought on why the element might be called "grass" despite how grass as a clade wasn't prevalent in the lives of Mesozoic animals for most of it. It's ubiquity to us as humans might be convenient in conveying ideas as a whole.
    A note on the Hadrosaur hands: Though the Dakota mummy does show what seems to be a singular nail. That whilst digits 2, 3, & 4 are encased in a fleshy mitt, I've been told that trackways shows the digits still imprint distinctive "lobes". There being many recent reconstructions that are solely based on the mummy, (which might not show the exact shape of the flesh in life) rather than corroborating that with known trackways of the manus, showing the main three digits bearing weight rather than like a horse hoof that bears weight on a singular central digit.

  • @tylerfish2701
    @tylerfish2701 Před 5 měsíci +13

    That baby Maiasaura is the skootabooshiest of all the skootabooshes!

    • @dweebteambuilderjones7627
      @dweebteambuilderjones7627 Před 5 měsíci +5

      It's also a bit big, should be the size of an ostrich chick given the size of the eggs.

    • @tylerfish2701
      @tylerfish2701 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@dweebteambuilderjones7627 True.

  • @tobiasgund8048
    @tobiasgund8048 Před 5 měsíci +11

    Parasurolophus is still my favourite dinosaur, so cool

  • @ppenmudera4687
    @ppenmudera4687 Před 5 měsíci +4

    19:28 literally spew out my drink as this was so unexpected yet hilarious

  • @jambasmayor9158
    @jambasmayor9158 Před 5 měsíci +8

    Remember in one episode where an Altirinus or maybe other hadrosaurs appear on golf course and its summon a Diplodocus ( i cant remember the name) and launch the hadrosaur using its neck .
    I think its my favorite move ! for being how much goofy and cool it looks . ❤😂

    • @dweebteambuilderjones7627
      @dweebteambuilderjones7627 Před 5 měsíci +6

      It was a _Supersaurus_ that it summoned. _Diplodocus_ (as _D. hallorum_ , which the show incorrectly referred to as _Seismosaurus_ even though the genera had been synonymized by then) had a flatter back and a proportionally shorter neck.

    • @Oinker-Sploinker
      @Oinker-Sploinker Před 5 měsíci +4

      I was so disappointed that the giant sauropods didn't get used against the black T.rex wasted opportunity.

    • @jambasmayor9158
      @jambasmayor9158 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@Oinker-Sploinker yeah kinda but we get to see a golfing sauropod and a fight between Supersaurus and Seismosaurus🦕

    • @gladiolus5377
      @gladiolus5377 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@Oinker-Sploinker The giant sauropods were too broken to be used regularly, the Seismosaurus was almost invencible.

    • @evodolka
      @evodolka Před 3 měsíci +2

      If I remember right, that move was super impact

  • @kaii9306
    @kaii9306 Před 5 měsíci +4

    I adore this series. Keep it up man. Your voice is also quite soothing.

  • @PteranodonLongicepsGen1
    @PteranodonLongicepsGen1 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I have been waiting for this one I didn't know which one would come next

  • @tyrannossenpai
    @tyrannossenpai Před 5 měsíci +11

    On the subject on summoning dinosaurs from Move Cards, will there also be a video talking about the dinosaurs, pterosaurs, and marine reptiles that appear only with the Move Cards?

  • @charizardfan1017
    @charizardfan1017 Před 5 měsíci +3

    It'd be really cool if you also did the move card exclusive dinosaurs in a future video

  • @gladiolus5377
    @gladiolus5377 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Great video, but about Paris using sound offensively, Dinosaur King is a wacky work with elemental dinosaurs throwing each other like ragdolls independently of their size or biology, shooting fire, lightning or wind and even summoning other dinosaurs to aid them in a fight. I don't think that ability of hers should be taken seriously.

  • @cladoselache8766
    @cladoselache8766 Před 5 měsíci +1

    OMG why do i suddenly remember watching this when i was 6, at grandma's house😭 a core memory

  • @omega-xk4gj
    @omega-xk4gj Před 5 měsíci +6

    Power to you man, can't wait for the Fire and Water Caste Cards

  • @midknighthowlitzer9915
    @midknighthowlitzer9915 Před 5 měsíci +3

    love it fingers crossed for Air element dinosaurs next

  • @tissue462
    @tissue462 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Lesgooooo, i absolutely love this series 🗣❤️🙏

  • @queenshanikamasterchef
    @queenshanikamasterchef Před měsícem

    It's so interesting how knowledge changes and new information derives.

  • @TheWarriorWithDucks
    @TheWarriorWithDucks Před 5 měsíci +4

    Aside from waterfowl, hadrosaurs are my favorite type of dinosaur.

  • @richie_0740
    @richie_0740 Před 5 měsíci +3

    man i wish we found a new american hadrosaur species just to name it anatotitan, cause that was a pretty metal name for a dinosaur along with olorotitan

  • @evodolka
    @evodolka Před 5 měsíci +4

    I remember never realy liking how grass was the type that hires other guys to do the work for it, I couldn't see the connection at all
    The summons were cool though, won't lie

    • @dweebteambuilderjones7627
      @dweebteambuilderjones7627 Před 5 měsíci +3

      There should've been a card that sent thorny vines everywhere and another that spewed toxic pollen. Grass should've had more cards involving using plants as weapons than summoning other animals.

    • @evodolka
      @evodolka Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@dweebteambuilderjones7627 i know there were SOME moves like that, think there was 1 were you summon a big tree that smacks the enemy flying, but that is like 1 move out of like 20 summon ones
      will agree though, more plant based tools could have been nice, or at the VERY least, have the summoned dinosaurs be made of wood or something

    • @QuentinFaivre-nc9vo
      @QuentinFaivre-nc9vo Před 5 měsíci +3

      There's like 5 grass use cards against 100 summoning cards

    • @evodolka
      @evodolka Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@QuentinFaivre-nc9vo oh yeah i forgot that the none elemental moves also had summons
      which makes things even weirder to me, why not give grass actual GRASS stuff and leave summons as their own thing, i get WHY water has summons, it was a way to include marine reptiles, but the grass summons could haev been filled by regular summons

    • @gladiolus5377
      @gladiolus5377 Před 5 měsíci +2

      I don't mind Grass dinosaurs using summonings and support based moves, it makes then stand out against the other purely offensive elements. Plus it's a nice reference to the white mage class of RPGs.

  • @SawdEndymon
    @SawdEndymon Před 4 měsíci

    12:11 a small nitpick. The baby in the anime is shown walking with decent ease right after hatching.
    In reality, these guys would as helpless as baby backyard birds and could only stumble about. It’s why mortality rate for these hatchlings was about 90%

  • @angstybreadstyx1242
    @angstybreadstyx1242 Před 4 měsíci

    You should do an episode on all the summoned animals like the pterosaurs and marine reptiles!

  • @kieranwrightstone2199
    @kieranwrightstone2199 Před 4 měsíci

    Great video as always, but I’m guessing you’re saving the move card dinosaurs for their own video after each of the elements.

  • @queenshanikamasterchef
    @queenshanikamasterchef Před měsícem

    I wish the anime included the crested dinosaurs like Tsintaosaurus - especially and Lambeosaurus.

  • @ChokeNetwork
    @ChokeNetwork Před 5 měsíci +2

    love the video , just one question - the dinosaurs in their move cards such as various sauropords and pterosaurs dont appear as separate dinosaurs in the entire serioes , so im wondering will u be discussing about them as well or not

  • @landenriley8442
    @landenriley8442 Před 5 měsíci +2

    This franchise gave hadrosaurs the respect they needed

    • @dweebteambuilderjones7627
      @dweebteambuilderjones7627 Před 5 měsíci

      Not really. Grass doesn't have as many purely offensive cards that aren't summoning other animals.

    • @landenriley8442
      @landenriley8442 Před 5 měsíci

      @@dweebteambuilderjones7627 tell that to Maiasaura

    • @dweebteambuilderjones7627
      @dweebteambuilderjones7627 Před 5 měsíci

      @@landenriley8442 That card was Normal-type, not Grass. There's no Grass card that shoots thorny vines everywhere or anything else like that.

  • @flightlesslord2688
    @flightlesslord2688 Před 5 měsíci +3

    so David Peters understands ornithopod anatomy, but not Pterosaur lol

    • @evodolka
      @evodolka Před 5 měsíci +4

      Never get a Hadrosaur expert to do a Pterosaur experts job I guess

  • @queenshanikamasterchef
    @queenshanikamasterchef Před měsícem

    Paris and the Ouranosaurus are the prettiest🎀

  • @hesplorothelopho
    @hesplorothelopho Před 5 měsíci +2

    15:30 Shantungo be LE GASP

  • @SmashBrosAssemble
    @SmashBrosAssemble Před 5 měsíci +1

    Are you going to cover the move card animals?
    Seismosaurus (now Diplodocus)
    Supersaurus
    Oviraptor
    Futabasaurus
    Ophthalmosaurus
    Pteranodon
    Tupuxuara
    Anhanguera
    Pawpawsaurus
    Piatnitzkysaurus

    • @juansuarez0126
      @juansuarez0126 Před 5 měsíci

      there is also Muraenosaurus, Archaeopteryx, Quetzalcoatlus, Struthiomimus, Dromiceiomimus, Tapejara, Segnosaurus, Stegoceras, Leaellynasaura and Troodon.

  • @AztecCroc
    @AztecCroc Před 2 měsíci

    17:16 I mean, parrots do something similar with their shrieks. It's not that odd.

  • @LordBumblebee1238
    @LordBumblebee1238 Před 5 měsíci +1

    When will move dinosaurs/creatures be included?

  • @marcopohl4875
    @marcopohl4875 Před 5 měsíci

    I wood say the designs are rooted in actual science. (This one was a hard one to come up with a pun for)

  • @Skyypixelgamer
    @Skyypixelgamer Před 5 měsíci +1

    17:10 I mean sperm whales can kill people with just how loud they are so it isn’t impossible.

  • @ibrav7979
    @ibrav7979 Před 3 měsíci

    actually in the anime and games, it seems that this group of dinosaurs were treated such that they could be both quadraped and bipedal at least with the way some animations worked

  • @davyjones3755
    @davyjones3755 Před 5 měsíci

    I just realized why they made them grass type,the tyrannosaur is fire type, Hadrosaurs are grass,grass is weak to fire
    They made them grass type just because Hadrosaurs are eaten by the rex

    • @gladiolus5377
      @gladiolus5377 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Not really. Dinosaur King's elemental advantage works so only one element prevails towards another while the rest do neutral damage, unlike in Pokemon where one type can damage several types effectively.
      The type advantages as seen here at 0:19 are Fire -> Wind -> Grass -> Earth -> Lightning -> Water -> Fire, while the Secret element does neutral damage. Fire dinosaurs would only do an average damage to Grass dinos as opposed to Wind dinosaurs whose attacks would be effective against Grass.

  • @maxleroux
    @maxleroux Před 5 měsíci

    Somehow, I doubt that the weight of an adult Altirhinus could be supported by a Supersaurs' neck without breaking it. Dinosaur King: Season 1, Episode 20 🦕

    • @ams4060
      @ams4060 Před 5 měsíci +3

      This is not the kind of show where you stop to think that.

  • @maozilla9149
    @maozilla9149 Před 5 měsíci +1

    nice

  • @Lindwyrm6429
    @Lindwyrm6429 Před 3 měsíci

    Okay but like, move card animals

  • @tylerferguson3193
    @tylerferguson3193 Před 5 měsíci

    Hope you're having a good day

  • @bujin_tycoon
    @bujin_tycoon Před 5 měsíci +1

    What i'm confused about is Paris' gender aka the Parasaurolophus.
    Zoe states that Paris' gender is female even tho the Parasaurolophus model is a male. I've researched that dino many many times, that female Parasaurolophuses have shorter and curvier crests than the males.
    I want to know your own answer and opinions. Thank you.

    • @TheFoshaMan
      @TheFoshaMan Před 5 měsíci +2

      There's no proof that Female Paras have shorter crests, Prasaurolophus has around 2-to-3 species and one of these species has shorter crests than the other, so that's it, they're not females, they're just another Para species.

    • @youtubestudiosucks978
      @youtubestudiosucks978 Před 5 měsíci +2

      You cant expect a show for kids where animals use elemental powers to be accurate all the time

    • @dweebteambuilderjones7627
      @dweebteambuilderjones7627 Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@youtubestudiosucks978 Dinosaur King touts itself as semi-educational, so some accuracy _is_ expected.

    • @PootPootMagoot
      @PootPootMagoot Před 5 měsíci +3

      As others have said you're thinking of _Parasaurolophus cyrtocristatus_ , which had a smaller and more curved crest. It's not sexual dimorphism, it's a distinct species to the others.

  • @snm_nendra
    @snm_nendra Před 5 měsíci

    Where's supersaurus and diplodocus

  • @stevenlamarche8416
    @stevenlamarche8416 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I was hoping you would also go over the Pterasaurs and Sauropods of grass even if they are just move cards.

  • @Blacksmith679
    @Blacksmith679 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Do a video on movie monster what dinosaurs they are based on and what would have to be changed for them to live irl

  • @oliverpaul4579
    @oliverpaul4579 Před 5 měsíci +1

    First up awesome video love what your doing but second What about the long neck Dino thought most of them where in this group

    • @killdozer7792
      @killdozer7792 Před 5 měsíci +1

      The sauropods are in the Water group, along with the spinosaurs.

    • @isaacslein6432
      @isaacslein6432 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Perhaps he'll do a movecard creature video with the Diplodocus, Supersaurus, and pterosaurs

    • @oliverpaul4579
      @oliverpaul4579 Před 5 měsíci

      Ah thanks

  • @Pyroraptor635
    @Pyroraptor635 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Most of the grass element dinosaurs have great models too bad some of the sounds they make suck, looking at you Olorotitan

    • @dweebteambuilderjones7627
      @dweebteambuilderjones7627 Před 5 měsíci

      And they had accurate _Parasaurolophus_ sounds in _1997_ , no need for Paris to sound like an elk...

  • @tm43977
    @tm43977 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Some plant Dinosaurs Also para para the Parasurolophus

  • @cassidyjones2730
    @cassidyjones2730 Před 4 měsíci

    I would avoid using David Peters’ work. His ornithopod hands might be fine but it’s best not to lend mister “photoshop proves pterosaurs were lizards” credibility