Work until your recovery point... Never really thought about that in regards to "actual" work... been stressed of late man, gotta examine/implement this 💪
I know it's a funny comparison but DBZ already taught us this. Goku trained to a certain point and then slept and rested a lot, Vegeta trained harder and longer, didn't rest and was always behind Goku.
Wow, what a great vid. Two great training minds together on one channel! Will definitely adjust my loads (both in and out of the gym) to better stimulate growth and manage my system fatigue. Thanks TD & Dr. Mike
Such a great video. I learned this the hard way ... whenever I was working a lot and I would try to compensate by going to the gym and work out even harder, often not sleeping enough, I would eventually get sick.
I'm 50 and knowing my limits by listening to my body is essential or I get ill or injured. I'm not particularly resilient, so to work out regularly takes some discipline to make sure everything gets a good rest before being pounded again. Detailed notes and a responsive diet really help.
I was literally about to say the same thing. I would add in whether or not you are coming back from a break in there as well. If you've been on break I find that your recovery period can be longer. I've been off training for a month and my volume (reps*weight) came down and my DOMS from on day 2 of rest here is high, like a beginner. I think age affects both min/max recoverable. Like you said, listen to y our body. Something I've had to learn well enough to run without injury at this age and finally see improvement after months of training.
I’m 50 and train hard like these guys are taking about. Age has nothing to do with deviating from what these gentlemen are saying. If you don’t push your body past the limits that you are talking about, your healing will not develop unless you do just that. If I focus on my limits like back surgery, neck surgery, etc I would never step foot in a gym. Don’t focus on your limits. You’ll never advance holding yourself back.
This is one of the most valuable insights I’ve ever learned and gained. Thomas, I am a huge fan of your content and watch all of your videos and this one really brought it home for me. One question I have, and I may have missed it during this video, but where does this lever that you can move back and forth of that “3rd of your volume” come from? Is there science on why a 3rd of your volume is key here? Or was it just a safe and easy bet of adding/subtracting volume without shocking your system or losing gains?
Thank you for this video. I consider recovery to be the other side of the training coin. One may train without allowing for recovery, but not for long. The legendary Bill "Boston Billy" Rodgers, who won the Boston Marathon four times, was once asked if a person with a full-time job could duplicate his (Rodgers') performance by following the same training schedule. The great man said (paraphrasing), "No, because he can train like I train but he cannot rest like I rest." For what it is worth: I once did a job whereat, for nine months, I worked 16 hours per day, seven days a week. The work consisted in picking up (from, on average, knee level) 56-lb. solid concrete blocks, carrying each one about ten to fifteen feet, and using them to build a series of two-by-two columns that varied between six and eight feet in height. The fatigue was far more mental than physical, though the physical fatigue was considerable. I became grumpy, irritable, intolerant, and impatient. I did not like anything, and I did not want to do anything. Cutting back to the standard, 40-hour week was like going on vacation. It took about a month to rediscover my old self. Never again. Bottom line is this: You must rest.
Ive recently discovered Mike and i love this guys sense of humor in every video theres always something where im like i cant believe he just said that and it makes me lol which i dont do often
You guys are forgetting people that do hard labor jobs. My friends that do concrete 6-7 days a week are jacked. I worked at a tile warehouse 6 days a week sometimes 7 ,pulling 25-75lb boxes out of crates and stacking them. I was sore for a month. Everyone said don’t worry it’ll go away after a month or two. About six months later I was snatching the boxes out of the crates like nothing and my forearms and biceps were huge.
That's the truth man they need to study this side of it more. I went from a retail job to a trade job where I'm hauling heavy equipment regularly and have to use a ton of muscle strength to control and use the equipment and I'm getting muscle definition with very little weight lifting. Maybe 2x a week max!
Love this conversation. I have trouble with maintenance. I’m great at getting in good shape but suck at staying in good shape. I really like the thought of 1/3 volume, I’m going to try that.
Totally agree on this, the body views physical stress and mental stress as total stress, and there is a limit to all of it, with some part of the body breaking in some sort of way, just like anything else pushed too hard for its own limits, I actually think when you burn the candle from both ends like this, you end up with an auto immune disorder from too much cortisol in the system, and your body normally brings inflammation down from cortisol, but since there so much of it, your body doesn’t respond to it anymore, similar to insulin resistance, inflammation goes thru the roof, and a disorder of some kind appears, so take it easy, this is a light warning for beginners, but for veterans who have trained to reach their limits, they are at the door of their threshold to actually reversing their health, so be careful
Absolutely pay attention to your body .. it speaks to you … once you can learn your body’s recovery … and act on it by maximizing your training … you will see major gains … but … you must be putting in the work …. This is a life long commitment
50 years old here and although I love Dr. Mike’s optimism, it’s adorable, I don’t think working out to hard and resting too little is the majority of the viewers’ problem. It’s much more likely the opposite. I’ve been working out lightly to moderately most of my adult life, but in recent yrs started pushing harder and I’m in solid health. When I workout out 6 days (1.5 hour sessions of weights) in a row I expect my body to get tired but I find I have to force myself to rest that 7th day. Guys, listen to your body’s but know that they can take more than we give it credit for. And btw a big part of this is doing your workouts right! Use apps like Dr Mike’s RP Strength or Dr. Muscle (that’s the one I use and love). These apps keep you on track and keep you pushing your weights up incrementally the way you’re supposed to. Stop just guessing how much you should lift. Have these amazing AI apps do that for you.
Yea some cardio counts as sets of hypertrophy training. I didn't realize it at first but sometimes when I'm biking I'm pushing so hard that it's doing serious quad damage and I need to take that into consideration with my training volume otherwise I'll overtrain.
The example I like to look at is Lee Priest. I wish I followed him sooner, his technique was impeccable. He was so gifted, but also if you look at how he trained, I don’t think he left any gains on the table. The man was a machine.
I ended up taking a rest month because I didn't adhere to this advice. I was pushing myself too hard and washed out. Back at it now, but with renewed respect for my limits.
@@leelunk8235yes, but once recovered you will get back to your old self quickly and be able to move past the previous plateau. You can’t move forward but you can certainly get gains better once rested.
@@Xplora213 LIES, NO SUCH THING AS GETTING GAINS BETTER AS A NATURAL LIFTER,. ONCE YOU PLATEAU , YOUR BODY ACCEPTS IT AND MAINTAINS, HE LOST MUSCLE FOR TAKING 3 MONTHS OFF, THAT'S A SET BACK IN MY BOOK, I TOOK 3 MONTHS AFTER AN INJURY AND I HAD TO RESET, START FROM ZERO AFTER LOSING 15 LBS OF REAL MUSCLE, MY THUMBNAIL DONT LIE
I over trained for years and years….i suffered CNS fatigue and it wasn’t until I started taking days off that I felt good, recovered and made gains. I don’t feel that I can eat as much without getting chunky, but I feel so much better and that improves every aspect of my life.
can we not deceive people with this stuff and put in qualifiers that they should get their T levels checked. you won't build much of anything regardless of volume and protein if your T levels are shot.
This was a phenomenal conversation to hear. I'm 70. Been doing CrossFit for almost 3 years, but sometimes confused by what to do. I have gained muscle mass, but with sarcopenia lurking in my future, I'd like to build more mass, and stave off the rate of loss. So how do I augment CrossFit workouts to maximize gains? Now I know some answers and will look for more detail. Your advice today is probably less than 20 sets a week, and that I can max out my body, so what for soreness and toggle back as necessary. THANKS!!
Underlying conditions may also play into how much water the proverbial bucket can take. I have Mast Cell Activation Syndrome and find myself constantly trying to balance a productive workout regiment and staying healthy. It’s very tough as a hot bath can literally trigger illness indistinguishable from the flu with body aches, fever, etc.
I think this is why Mentzer's Heavy Duty II worked so well for me back in the day. Workouts were brutal and short with lots of recovery time. Best gains of my life (I was one of the fast twitch people).
Training for a marathon and he nailed it with temporarily prioritizing runs especially when in peak training with higher mileage. I just started easing off the lifting when running because I found it was too much.
Yes my issue when combining running and lifting is mainly the total strain on my knees. I'm sure it impacts my performance as well, but that is not my main worry. Guess I should just accept and lower the lifting volume on legs while I focus on running.
kinda makes sense - Total Recoverable Load: the total energy that can be expended in recovering, body-wide. Concentrate it to one of a few muscles, or diffuse it across the whole body.
Coach I am onboard with this as far as building muscle and managing physical fatigue on the body. Any research on how the training/overtraining prepares athletes for sport? I think wrestling is so mental that there was a lot of truth to what the coaches were telling. You are more confident when you know that you trained harder than your opponent.
I totally agree … recovery is extremely important …. At 59 years old and I have been in the natural bodybuilding and fitness since I was 13 years old … I’m 5ft 6in tall and my weight has been all over the place trying different things in nutrition…. I’m now sitting steady at 175 to 180 lbs …. At this point in my life I’ve gone the longest without an injury…. I now train 4 times a week … all upper body one day , then a day off then legs day and a day off and start over …. I use the pyramid method on everything … I start very low with strict form … and I go all the way up to a weight that allows me 3 to 5 reps … all light weights on the way up I do 8 to 10 reps all heavy weights I do 5 reps … I only take a 30 second break on heavy and 15 seconds on light … so I keep my rest breaks limited… to much of a break is ridiculous… that blood flow is very important ….. when I start to go back down I only rest for 20 seconds till I finish … so hard …. Push yourself …. I do chest first , then back , pull overs , shoulders , triceps , biceps , forearms …. 3 exercises per body part ….. In that order … it takes me 2 hrs … what I’ve done has made me very , very strong for a little old guy … I eat very well all kinds of meat and potatoes and rice and a salad couple times a week …. I do not have a 6 pac … I get so skinny 😂 …. I’m not on any T or steroids …. And my natural T levels are just over 500 … my doctor says I’m a very Rare man … so I’m a bit lucky 🍀 …. However… I feel the pyramid system start low to warm up then go as high as you can for 3 to 5 reps and do at least 2 sets up high then work back down with limited rest is where the magic is … keep your alcohol levels very very very low … and eat very good and time will do the rest … I’ve been at this my whole entire life … so I’ve built a very good foundation …. Rest and not over training is key for sure … there is 7 days in a week … stop thinking your weekend is a free zone ! … your either dedicated or you are not … and remember practice , practice, practice … what works for one person may not work for another … my pyramid system and full upper body training with limited rest is extremely difficult… you must be eating very good … because when legs day comes … it’s game on … if you train your legs very hard and I mean hard using the pyramid system it will raise your natural T levels and this will do you wonders …. But you must live the lifestyle.
That’s always been my issue with Goggins. His motivation is amazing. But he goes so hard he just hurts himself. I personally don’t see any value in that. But I can’t take anything away from him. The guy is an absolute beast, he’s transcended humanity lol.
@ugk26 remember he really didn't have the option of a choice, it was run and finish Hell week, OR quit. He wasn't going to quit. I was using it as example of what happens when you push to the point of breaking. Goggins found a place to go in his head few humans ever dare tread. #stayhard
@@sg255010 I agree with his mental strength, he’s probably top 1% of the top 1% in that regard. But I thought he’s done that running around a race track. I think he even said his wife was with him. The story was old, heard it on Rogan. But it wasn’t to qualify for anything. Are you familiar with that story by chance? That was what I was referencing.
I did a week straight of just lateral dumbbell lifts front side and rear even when I was sore. Wound up stopping for three weeks and was still growing through those three weeks and I stopped working out. Numerous times I found I grew when I didn’t lift and took time off. Started doing massive one day workouts like full body workouts and then rest the whole week. Wind up growing like nothing. So now I’m only sprinkling in workouts throughout my rest days instead of doing the opposite of sprinkling rest days in between workout days.
Dr Mike I. is hilarious. I think that “maximum recoverable” thing is a solid theory. Finding that limit is tough. If you give yourself rhabdo, then you know you’ve exceeded it.
Look into Dorain Yates training journal. You can see how he used progressive overload and intensity but also took very close attention to his recovery, deload and days off.
@@Spizort … Yeah, it’s intuitive really. I just never heard anyone but him actually say it out loud. I also only recently just started listening to lifters talk.
I was lifting for an hour a day, doing hiit for an hour; and after a month and a half, I had no energy left and had to cut back. I've always had trouble putting on muscle, but when I was doing that, I put on 7 lbs in 2 months and went from 15% bodyfat down to 8.5%. First time in my life, at 37, when I actually had defined abs and looked like someone who works out. I'm currently struggling with my routine and my body not wanting to put on muscle over the past 5 months of my new routine, and I think the problem is that I need to eat like I'm trying to get fat. For naturally thin guys (I've always had people tell me I'm a hardgainer) it's hard to figure out how much food is too much, but I notice within 2 weeks how I look and feel different when I eat like crazy while lifting.
love Dr Mike. so informed, fact driven, funny, self effacing. Just trying to understand the muscularity he has, that restricts his full range of motion. I will never know, because I cannot gain mass like him. Genetics restrictions are real!
Good gosh I needed to hear this. Dr. Mike is amazing, so glad you had him on. I love his channel too.
It makes so much sense for me that due to daily stress from work it hits your training. That explains a lot for me
wow the collab I never thought I'd see. Fantastic!
Work until your recovery point...
Never really thought about that in regards to "actual" work... been stressed of late man, gotta examine/implement this 💪
I know it's a funny comparison but DBZ already taught us this. Goku trained to a certain point and then slept and rested a lot, Vegeta trained harder and longer, didn't rest and was always behind Goku.
@@osmanhadzalic9060geek😂
I’m liking the pivot in style bro. Sitting with knowledgeable people and being willing to learn shows real integrity and authenticity.
I love the videos with you two guys! Great stuff.
Great stuff as always doc Mike! Thank you 🙏🏻
Two of my faves in one video. I’m no power lifter. I train at home and follow both of you. Thanks for the great vid
Wow, what a great vid. Two great training minds together on one channel! Will definitely adjust my loads (both in and out of the gym) to better stimulate growth and manage my system fatigue. Thanks TD & Dr. Mike
Thank You For Your Time And Knowledge 💯🤝
Fantastic insights, hooray Dr. Mike!
Thanks for this beauty on recovery.
Older 😢need to understand more about recovery.
The body has it's own weird logic.
I have to listen to these guys.
One of the best Podcasts I’ve listened to
That dudes got some wisdom to share. I really enjoyed it. Thank-you Thomas for all you're hard work and another banger video 🙏
Really really good advice! Thank you
Have Dr. Mike on everyday
Such a great video. I learned this the hard way ... whenever I was working a lot and I would try to compensate by going to the gym and work out even harder, often not sleeping enough, I would eventually get sick.
I'm 50 and knowing my limits by listening to my body is essential or I get ill or injured. I'm not particularly resilient, so to work out regularly takes some discipline to make sure everything gets a good rest before being pounded again. Detailed notes and a responsive diet really help.
I was literally about to say the same thing. I would add in whether or not you are coming back from a break in there as well. If you've been on break I find that your recovery period can be longer. I've been off training for a month and my volume (reps*weight) came down and my DOMS from on day 2 of rest here is high, like a beginner. I think age affects both min/max recoverable. Like you said, listen to y our body. Something I've had to learn well enough to run without injury at this age and finally see improvement after months of training.
Absolutely truth
Bot comment
@@fdocument2889 If you mean MY comment, you are wrong, I'm not a bot (although that's exactly what a bot WOULD say isn't it!).
I’m 50 and train hard like these guys are taking about. Age has nothing to do with deviating from what these gentlemen are saying. If you don’t push your body past the limits that you are talking about, your healing will not develop unless you do just that. If I focus on my limits like back surgery, neck surgery, etc I would never step foot in a gym. Don’t focus on your limits. You’ll never advance holding yourself back.
Good info
53 here! My body tells me exactly when im overtraining. My shoulder my back my knees and my elbows determine when I’m working out
Lmao, this was one of the single best uploads, Thomas. Terrific chemistry and information.
Great clip from this interview, very good info
dr mike is great! thanks for having him on your channel
Excellent information!!!
Wow. Eye opening info from Dr mike! Awesome!
Probably the funniest and most informativ video in a Long time
I needed this so bad. Running, swimming, and weight lifting hit hard on me. Need to back up
I went too hard last week and paid for it. I got a cold and respiratory infection. Mike is right, you gotta work smarter, not harder.
It's happened multiple times to me too. People who go to failure and workout when sick are risking it long term
@@jarlwhiterun7478Yeah if I'm feeling a little under the weather I don't hit it hard, I'll go like half of my normal
ISRAETAL AND DELAURER, BEST VID TUTORIAL ON THE WEB!
Superb advice on Systemic Fatigue and Cheery Banter between two UTUBE HEAVYWEIGHTS...great conversation.
Agreed.
What a pair. Looking forward to this
Great knowledge here. I need to work on this myself!
This is a great interview! 👌
Informative Truths. Thanks
big fan of Dr Mike and the collabs between you two. great stuff!
You are absolutely right, i get cold sores when i over train and know straight away....excellent advise.
This is GOLD!!!!!!!!
Very interesting thank you
This is one of the most valuable insights I’ve ever learned and gained. Thomas, I am a huge fan of your content and watch all of your videos and this one really brought it home for me.
One question I have, and I may have missed it during this video, but where does this lever that you can move back and forth of that “3rd of your volume” come from? Is there science on why a 3rd of your volume is key here? Or was it just a safe and easy bet of adding/subtracting volume without shocking your system or losing gains?
Great interview. I love his philosophy
Seems very good advice,very productive conversation!Keep up!Thanks!
Love Dr. Mike and his sense of humor!
Golden advice. I had to pause and rewind several times to take notes. Thank you Dr. Israetel!
Thank you for this video. I consider recovery to be the other side of the training coin. One may train without allowing for recovery, but not for long.
The legendary Bill "Boston Billy" Rodgers, who won the Boston Marathon four times, was once asked if a person with a full-time job could duplicate his (Rodgers') performance by following the same training schedule. The great man said (paraphrasing), "No, because he can train like I train but he cannot rest like I rest."
For what it is worth: I once did a job whereat, for nine months, I worked 16 hours per day, seven days a week. The work consisted in picking up (from, on average, knee level) 56-lb. solid concrete blocks, carrying each one about ten to fifteen feet, and using them to build a series of two-by-two columns that varied between six and eight feet in height.
The fatigue was far more mental than physical, though the physical fatigue was considerable. I became grumpy, irritable, intolerant, and impatient. I did not like anything, and I did not want to do anything.
Cutting back to the standard, 40-hour week was like going on vacation. It took about a month to rediscover my old self.
Never again.
Bottom line is this: You must rest.
super informative thanks
Ive recently discovered Mike and i love this guys sense of humor in every video theres always something where im like i cant believe he just said that and it makes me lol which i dont do often
You guys are forgetting people that do hard labor jobs. My friends that do concrete 6-7 days a week are jacked. I worked at a tile warehouse 6 days a week sometimes 7 ,pulling 25-75lb boxes out of crates and stacking them. I was sore for a month. Everyone said don’t worry it’ll go away after a month or two. About six months later I was snatching the boxes out of the crates like nothing and my forearms and biceps were huge.
That's the truth man they need to study this side of it more. I went from a retail job to a trade job where I'm hauling heavy equipment regularly and have to use a ton of muscle strength to control and use the equipment and I'm getting muscle definition with very little weight lifting. Maybe 2x a week max!
Pro athletes and lifters barely take breaks they force their bodies to adapt to the life and they get monstrous
Most labor dudes are stressed, smokers and crappy diet. If you stay healthy then you will be ripped just by working
Love this conversation. I have trouble with maintenance. I’m great at getting in good shape but suck at staying in good shape. I really like the thought of 1/3 volume, I’m going to try that.
I'm on the trees and I find it so easy to stay lean and strong. An active job is the ideal. Training is mostly unnecessary.
Totally agree on this, the body views physical stress and mental stress as total stress, and there is a limit to all of it, with some part of the body breaking in some sort of way, just like anything else pushed too hard for its own limits, I actually think when you burn the candle from both ends like this, you end up with an auto immune disorder from too much cortisol in the system, and your body normally brings inflammation down from cortisol, but since there so much of it, your body doesn’t respond to it anymore, similar to insulin resistance, inflammation goes thru the roof, and a disorder of some kind appears, so take it easy, this is a light warning for beginners, but for veterans who have trained to reach their limits, they are at the door of their threshold to actually reversing their health, so be careful
100%
I’ve personally seen all types of burnout including mental breakdown.
Good info thanks. A comment reminded me of my running days. We all overtrained then
Shin splints suuuuuuck
Amazing interview! I really needed to be reminded about what he called MRV- maximum recoverable volume.
Absolutely pay attention to your body .. it speaks to you … once you can learn your body’s recovery … and act on it by maximizing your training … you will see major gains … but … you must be putting in the work …. This is a life long commitment
50 years old here and although I love Dr. Mike’s optimism, it’s adorable, I don’t think working out to hard and resting too little is the majority of the viewers’ problem. It’s much more likely the opposite. I’ve been working out lightly to moderately most of my adult life, but in recent yrs started pushing harder and I’m in solid health. When I workout out 6 days (1.5 hour sessions of weights) in a row I expect my body to get tired but I find I have to force myself to rest that 7th day. Guys, listen to your body’s but know that they can take more than we give it credit for. And btw a big part of this is doing your workouts right! Use apps like Dr Mike’s RP Strength or Dr. Muscle (that’s the one I use and love). These apps keep you on track and keep you pushing your weights up incrementally the way you’re supposed to. Stop just guessing how much you should lift. Have these amazing AI apps do that for you.
NOBODY IS READING THAT BOOK
Great info! Paradigm shift here. On a sidenote, Dr. Mike could be doing standup comedy. Hilarious comments!
This is gold 👏🏻🙏
So correct 👍 Thank You 🙏
👊❤😆 *I used to say I Never pull out but the alimony just got real gnarly* - Dr. Mike Israetel
Hey Thomas, thank you for the attention and effort you put into your work, its great
He does it for the money!!!
Thomas dedication to get multiple sources and the get ten times more sources, makes him one of the best.
Yea some cardio counts as sets of hypertrophy training. I didn't realize it at first but sometimes when I'm biking I'm pushing so hard that it's doing serious quad damage and I need to take that into consideration with my training volume otherwise I'll overtrain.
Dr Israetel is my fav so to see you both on together is fab
Gay
@@kyotog777 haha are they gay together or am I gay for the comment?
Doc Mike is an absolute legend. ❤
This is great!
great post
The example I like to look at is Lee Priest.
I wish I followed him sooner, his technique was impeccable. He was so gifted, but also if you look at how he trained, I don’t think he left any gains on the table.
The man was a machine.
A Physical Therapist told me decades ago to take a week off, every 5-6 weeks. I find the rest week is more beneficial mentally than physically.
I ended up taking a rest month because I didn't adhere to this advice. I was pushing myself too hard and washed out. Back at it now, but with renewed respect for my limits.
ONE MONTH OFF. YOU LOST MUSCLE MY BOY ATROPHIED
I prefer rest for years rather 😮💨
@@leelunk8235yes, but once recovered you will get back to your old self quickly and be able to move past the previous plateau. You can’t move forward but you can certainly get gains better once rested.
@@Xplora213 LIES, NO SUCH THING AS GETTING GAINS BETTER AS A NATURAL LIFTER,. ONCE YOU PLATEAU , YOUR BODY ACCEPTS IT AND MAINTAINS, HE LOST MUSCLE FOR TAKING 3 MONTHS OFF, THAT'S A SET BACK IN MY BOOK, I TOOK 3 MONTHS AFTER AN INJURY AND I HAD TO RESET, START FROM ZERO AFTER LOSING 15 LBS OF REAL MUSCLE, MY THUMBNAIL DONT LIE
that one was interesting, and sparking some hope that i finally will grow a bit :=)
Absolutely Fantastic show 🏆👍👍… the sweet spot … it takes dedication and determination to find it … but you must … If you want great results
Mike should do have his own stand-up comedy bit. I'd pay to watch! :D
2 EXPERT-TALK - its deepening my understanding of a RELAXING-TIME
and/or giving the body the right building blocks that are needed. like added glutamine when cortisol goes up
I over trained for years and years….i suffered CNS fatigue and it wasn’t until I started taking days off that I felt good, recovered and made gains. I don’t feel that I can eat as much without getting chunky, but I feel so much better and that improves every aspect of my life.
Mike has got to be one of my favorite human beings of all time.
Sad
@@liamconverse8950 wow you’re a douchę
100% agree he is funny as shit and knowledgeable
can we not deceive people with this stuff and put in qualifiers that they should get their T levels checked. you won't build much of anything regardless of volume and protein if your T levels are shot.
Love this cat!!
This was a phenomenal conversation to hear. I'm 70. Been doing CrossFit for almost 3 years, but sometimes confused by what to do. I have gained muscle mass, but with sarcopenia lurking in my future, I'd like to build more mass, and stave off the rate of loss. So how do I augment CrossFit workouts to maximize gains? Now I know some answers and will look for more detail. Your advice today is probably less than 20 sets a week, and that I can max out my body, so what for soreness and toggle back as necessary. THANKS!!
Running on the freeway hitting semis is definitely my go-to.
Gosh, Dr Mike Israetel is Dr Incredible, superhero, I wonder where he hides his cape.❤😊
his anal cavities
Doc Mike 🙏👍🏻 listen to your body.
Thank you 🙏🏻
Underlying conditions may also play into how much water the proverbial bucket can take. I have Mast Cell Activation Syndrome and find myself constantly trying to balance a productive workout regiment and staying healthy. It’s very tough as a hot bath can literally trigger illness indistinguishable from the flu with body aches, fever, etc.
This one is so important… for some of people
I think this is why Mentzer's Heavy Duty II worked so well for me back in the day. Workouts were brutal and short with lots of recovery time. Best gains of my life (I was one of the fast twitch people).
The duo I didnt know I needed
Dr. Mike is awesome.
Really good info! Mike by himself is a bit much, im not really into his humor and constant jokes but with Thomas, the info is more straigt forward
Fascinating!
Love listening to these two just riff
Training for a marathon and he nailed it with temporarily prioritizing runs especially when in peak training with higher mileage. I just started easing off the lifting when running because I found it was too much.
Yes my issue when combining running and lifting is mainly the total strain on my knees. I'm sure it impacts my performance as well, but that is not my main worry. Guess I should just accept and lower the lifting volume on legs while I focus on running.
@@Archheret1ctry animal flex comprehensive joint care. I’m 41 and it’s a necessity to keep them joints loose.
Dude I was not the biggest fan of Mike before this interview. He's a funny ass dude😂 with info to consider
kinda makes sense - Total Recoverable Load: the total energy that can be expended in recovering, body-wide. Concentrate it to one of a few muscles, or diffuse it across the whole body.
Coach I am onboard with this as far as building muscle and managing physical fatigue on the body. Any research on how the training/overtraining prepares athletes for sport? I think wrestling is so mental that there was a lot of truth to what the coaches were telling. You are more confident when you know that you trained harder than your opponent.
I totally agree … recovery is extremely important …. At 59 years old and I have been in the natural bodybuilding and fitness since I was 13 years old … I’m 5ft 6in tall and my weight has been all over the place trying different things in nutrition…. I’m now sitting steady at 175 to 180 lbs …. At this point in my life I’ve gone the longest without an injury…. I now train 4 times a week … all upper body one day , then a day off then legs day and a day off and start over …. I use the pyramid method on everything … I start very low with strict form … and I go all the way up to a weight that allows me 3 to 5 reps … all light weights on the way up I do 8 to 10 reps all heavy weights I do 5 reps … I only take a 30 second break on heavy and 15 seconds on light … so I keep my rest breaks limited… to much of a break is ridiculous… that blood flow is very important ….. when I start to go back down I only rest for 20 seconds till I finish … so hard …. Push yourself …. I do chest first , then back , pull overs , shoulders , triceps , biceps , forearms …. 3 exercises per body part ….. In that order … it takes me 2 hrs … what I’ve done has made me very , very strong for a little old guy … I eat very well all kinds of meat and potatoes and rice and a salad couple times a week …. I do not have a 6 pac … I get so skinny 😂 …. I’m not on any T or steroids …. And my natural T levels are just over 500 … my doctor says I’m a very Rare man … so I’m a bit lucky 🍀 …. However… I feel the pyramid system start low to warm up then go as high as you can for 3 to 5 reps and do at least 2 sets up high then work back down with limited rest is where the magic is … keep your alcohol levels very very very low … and eat very good and time will do the rest … I’ve been at this my whole entire life … so I’ve built a very good foundation …. Rest and not over training is key for sure … there is 7 days in a week … stop thinking your weekend is a free zone ! … your either dedicated or you are not … and remember practice , practice, practice … what works for one person may not work for another … my pyramid system and full upper body training with limited rest is extremely difficult… you must be eating very good … because when legs day comes … it’s game on … if you train your legs very hard and I mean hard using the pyramid system it will raise your natural T levels and this will do you wonders …. But you must live the lifestyle.
It makes sense. Goggins literally ran until he broke bones! He knew what was happening, ignored it (had to) and paid the price.
Goggins behavior is untreated obsessive behavior.
That’s always been my issue with Goggins. His motivation is amazing. But he goes so hard he just hurts himself. I personally don’t see any value in that. But I can’t take anything away from him. The guy is an absolute beast, he’s transcended humanity lol.
@ugk26 remember he really didn't have the option of a choice, it was run and finish Hell week, OR quit. He wasn't going to quit. I was using it as example of what happens when you push to the point of breaking. Goggins found a place to go in his head few humans ever dare tread. #stayhard
@@sg255010 I agree with his mental strength, he’s probably top 1% of the top 1% in that regard.
But I thought he’s done that running around a race track. I think he even said his wife was with him. The story was old, heard it on Rogan. But it wasn’t to qualify for anything. Are you familiar with that story by chance? That was what I was referencing.
Tbf he’s stupid, he’s now completely fucked, he would of been more of a man to call it and not break himself
Very interesting 👌 👍 🤔
Great talk and information. Thank you for that. Does Dr. Mike know he has digital clubbing?
Smart talk
Genius with systemic balance!
Almost 60 and do full body. I find max sets are 8/week!
Interesting idea to cut back some areas by a 1/3 and work lagging areas harder. Will try.
"they dont know me SON!!!"
"Whos gonna carry the boat?"
And the logs 🏋️♀️
Oh that guy?
I did a week straight of just lateral dumbbell lifts front side and rear even when I was sore. Wound up stopping for three weeks and was still growing through those three weeks and I stopped working out. Numerous times I found I grew when I didn’t lift and took time off. Started doing massive one day workouts like full body workouts and then rest the whole week. Wind up growing like nothing. So now I’m only sprinkling in workouts throughout my rest days instead of doing the opposite of sprinkling rest days in between workout days.
Dr Mike I. is hilarious. I think that “maximum recoverable” thing is a solid theory. Finding that limit is tough. If you give yourself rhabdo, then you know you’ve exceeded it.
If you get rhabdo before acute injury your technique must be exceptional
I like Mike too but nothing about this is new.
@@Spizort Mike did say he didn't invent it but also that it's an important nuance to understand if you want to optimize your progress
Look into Dorain Yates training journal. You can see how he used progressive overload and intensity but also took very close attention to his recovery, deload and days off.
@@Spizort … Yeah, it’s intuitive really. I just never heard anyone but him actually say it out loud. I also only recently just started listening to lifters talk.
I was lifting for an hour a day, doing hiit for an hour; and after a month and a half, I had no energy left and had to cut back. I've always had trouble putting on muscle, but when I was doing that, I put on 7 lbs in 2 months and went from 15% bodyfat down to 8.5%. First time in my life, at 37, when I actually had defined abs and looked like someone who works out. I'm currently struggling with my routine and my body not wanting to put on muscle over the past 5 months of my new routine, and I think the problem is that I need to eat like I'm trying to get fat. For naturally thin guys (I've always had people tell me I'm a hardgainer) it's hard to figure out how much food is too much, but I notice within 2 weeks how I look and feel different when I eat like crazy while lifting.
I added running at the end of my workouts and lost strength… I trimmed a bit but my lifts suffered. I’m trying to get that strength back.
love Dr Mike. so informed, fact driven, funny, self effacing. Just trying to understand the muscularity he has, that restricts his full range of motion. I will never know, because I cannot gain mass like him. Genetics restrictions are real!