Advaita I am listening to Justice Katju. His views have always been left liberal. He has a great superiority complex. On many occasions he has expressed that majority of Indian population is जंगली!! He has been my college mate in 11th &12th class in Allahabad. He is obsessed with the idea of Gandhian and Nehruvian philosophy and considers हिन्दू ideology to be some kind of most inferior ideology .Sadly his family lineage was not like this and were proud Hindus!! Anyway I am not sure whether the views expressed by him will resonate with the ordinary, balanced Indian citizen unless he is also a Nehru ,Gandhi follower!!
Sir, young Indians will not influenced by Katju. But definitely people are getting radicalized from childhood. Resulting in polarized mindset which may result in civil war.
Sad commentary from a person articulating on subjective views camaflaging it with systemic flaws which was never addressed all these years
Uncle he's from a family on C#ngressmen and coincidentally enjoyed the highest judicial office of India.
Sir , I wonder how could you survived in the presence of such amalgamation of pessimism , we perfectly know our country have problems.
He is still thinking that we are the country of cheaply built ambassadors when we are making such excellent Tata harrier
And he said disharmony Ravi is climate activist what a bloody joke it is
Shezad gave a good reply to katju. These judges are so arrogant, they think they are some kind of god and everyone should praise them, bow down to them, worship them.
Yes its rampant in the corridors of courts. They r just as corrupt as any other politician or a beaurocrat.
These judges who come to channels , did not work in their lifetime Odin the court rooms and because of these people we have millions pending cases
Shehjad is the only one saying what needs to be said without keeping friendships in mind...
Shehzad is full of Facts no rhetoric. Katju & Manali full of gas !
I have developed immense respect for the views and very balanced analysis offered by Sohail and Abhijeet!! Shahzad has really matured over the years as a panelist and debater. He meticulously does his homework and comes prepared for the debates!! He will probably go places if he can stick to the facts and calling a spade a spade!!!
Shehzad sir’s reply to Manali and Katju🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
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Shehzad is absolutely right and put the issue in correct perspective. Sedition law should stay .
@@ravishankar5731 he said misuse happening and a need is to find ways to stop misuse
Manali was not apolitical, after 2014 the people who say they are liberal and centrist are actually the most political, they live and thrive under the tag of liberalism, they speak up for the issues but they remain silent on the issues which involve certain community or political group. Its very hard to find people who are genuinely apolitical. I can sniff person's political inclination.
She states that the use of sedition law has increased after 2014. But that alone is not evidence of increased misuse. There has been increase in anti-state and anti-democratic activities as well. Such as rioting, blocking roads in the name of dissent.
@@hkiajtaqks5253 True, after 2014, anti-India protests in the name of dissent has increased, because foreign funding against Modi govt has increased. They are rattled by the fact that right wing pro-Hindu Modi defeated Congis in the elections.
Shehzad, all powers to you !! India stands with you .
What is Katju saying ? Can anyone make any sense ? Sharjeel openly talked about violence and division of nation .
Now it is edited ...in live it was fun to watch
He said to Shezad dalbadlu .....the keep on playing age card..."that you can't to me like this I am 75 yr old"
If Manali Singhal is non partisan, then why did she not mention the example of Arnab Goswami's illegal arrest ?
Katju's ALL exampls are one sided
So how do we believe them ?
I can't believe somebody like Katzu could be a judge
he only became what he became because of family connections. As he mentioned his grandfather was CM
If congress in power Katju like people only are eligible for any position. Now I think you get why India still developing.
Judges like are him are responsible for the poor justice system in India.
Katju is stubborn and useless, don't call him to panel.
No let him come, his hypocrisy is being exposed here. Plus it’s fun to see that old fart getting panicked 😅
Manali well exposed. Changing narrative as it suits. Was she trying to heap praises on her daughter to promote her !
She had nothing to say on suffering n trauma for years of Col Purohit n Sadhvi Pragya, nor a word on coining of 'Hindu Terror' by Congress n its anti Hindu brigade.
We will appreciate if she is not called again on the programme.
Katju Making a laughing stock of himself!!
SHEHZAD is full on Dhan Dhana Dhan destroyed them single handedly. Shehzad Come to politics we need leaders like you.
Shehzad is a pure GEM. LOVE HIM
You two watch his videos when he was still pappuite. He is one of the clowns that are sepoys seeking best bet for their intellectual talents.
Shehzad was today's star. Suhel and Abhijit were quite convincing as ever. It was Advaita:s fault which erupted in heated discussions between Manali and Shehzad.
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I think that this “argument” was needed to bring Shehzad’s mastery of facts and his coherence to the forefront! Our young star shone so bright today! 🙏🏽
Why does Katju have so much sympathy for the Kashmiri politicians? The guy always gives wrong examples.
Manali bought John Swamy name. Shehzad rightfully pointed her. Excellent points by Shehzad.
Katju has started his rattling. He exposes his anti-BJP stance within minutes.
Don't mind him being anti BJP. Be that all you want but atleast talk sense man. Katju talks like a pappu, parroting the same things based on what he thinks should be universally accepted truths...
I am excercising my free speech here and Katju is a moron. Lets see if he will register an FIR on me or go to CZcams to struck this comment. Katju is biggest bhutiya
It'd be great to have J Sai Deepak in this debate.
I'd like to see AIM vs Sai deepak duel while Anand Ranganathan moderates the session. 😁😂
Stop inviting Katju. He himself says that such panel discussions are useless. Then why does he participate and argue his points? On top of that he said he didn't vote. That is horrible. You were part of the system and you do not believe the system? Suhel gave a very good reply. Shehzad is amazing.
Haven't you noticed how left wing channels invite the illogical right wingers on their debates? AK is paying them back with the same coin to make them look like fools :)
Ya just invite people who always agree with each other. Milke chaatne ka maja alag hai.
@@ShivamAroraa no no! only chatna is good. Evryone shud always agree with others on the panel. Take that Dickshit guy he always invites ppl who agree with him and how nicely they chato. Advaita should learn from him.
Sunday club has lost its status. Manali and Katju : it's just too much !
Shehzad bhai is the star of the show
Real good points
Can be converted into an article and published 👍👍
Thank you Shahzad for showing certain 'prominent' people the mirror!. You won many hearts today. Go on Sherzad!!!
Katu jee is how spreading half truth. Safoora is on bail.. Cause she cried and cried
Katju is a joke.......just see how diverts the topic and breaks the train of thought
Why do you even have Katju on? Everyone knows he's biased.
So everyone who is biased should not be invited? So what is the point in having a discussion when everyone is speaking on the same view....
@@kishanraj8865 not if they don't have anything to add to the debate.....Katju just goes on and on. For eg. He said that the police are framing the people accused in Bhima Koregaon. Does he have any proof ? He should approach the courts of he does rather than just ranting about how shit everything is.
@@karanswamygowda suhel and Abhijit are very neutral. You would know this if you followed them.
Manali and Shezaad are definitely not neutral but Katju is at the extreme end of the non neutral spectrum.
From a family of Chief Ministers who belonged to a particular party and enjoyed the highest judicial office (with only 20yrs experience as a judge) coincidentally during the rule of the same political party his family members were a part of.
Shehzad own the hearts with his accurate points.
Shehzad ji you just made it very interesting 😂😂😂😂
So according to mr katju (Mr I am 75 years old) , I have to wait until my Street fill up with certain peaceful roitors and creating hovac ,
I completely disagree with Katju
My thoughts on the various panelists (though I know no one cares):
1) Markandeya Katju - Entitled old man too accustomed to privilege. Expected people to respect him because of his past position and age rather than the merit of his arguments
2) Manali Singhal: Spent half the debate cheerleading for her daughter. Selective in her presentation of facts.
3) Suhel Seth: Pseudo-moderator. Made politically correct conciliatory noises but didn't contribute anything of substance
4) Abhijeet Iyer: Spoke from experience (of being incarcerated for sedition) with well-thought out points, though harped too much on police reforms while ignoring other aspects.
4) Shehzad Poonawala: Made some excellent points throughout the debate supported by facts and examples. The mudslinging match with Katju and Manali didn't help though
5)Advaita Kala: Clearly enjoying her role as the moderator and learnt from the past admonitions of Katju.
Overall excellent debate with diverse viewpoints. Keep them coming!
What's your twitter id? By the way, totally agree with your viewpoint!
Advaita's Mike wins the debate 👏👏👏
Such things can easily be fixed in post before uploading to CZcams but these live only channels have problems like this all the time!
Manali Sehgal says that Stan Swami was innocent..where's the evidence that Stan was innocent..
Isn’t it the duty of the state to prove he is guilty- innocent until proven guilty and all that jazz
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Does this apply to sadvi Pragya And colnel purohit
@@prafullatripathi2085 no. never. they are guilty right from the outset because all the communist intellectuals believe so. And their word is final
Shehzad is Awesome!!!
Abhijit isnt commie , actualy the most roght wing person in the debate but he has his personal experiance with sidetion law and police forging fake evidence against hin on he orders of CM . ! Its not his fault !
Katju dies not make the debate interesting. His insights are biased & calculative.
Katju can't comprehend, so no point bringing him into any debate.He keeps on repeating like a old record.
PLEASE DON'T CALL KATJU ON THE PANEL
Shezaad Punawala has really articulated the issue very nicely!
Shehzad has really matured in debate. I always enjoys listening him with all figures and facts
Again suhel as always has no contribution , just uneccesary tries to be neutral when he knows that one side is grosly wrong.
You cannot call him a centrist(neutral) as well. Anand Ranganathan is a centrist. Suhel Seth is more of a leftist. He tries to monkey balance by being on both sides.
Shehzad bhai was on fire today. That's what we need to be. Completely unapologetic and as straight as an arrow.
Shehzad was the best speaker in this discussion..Cast away these nonsense immobiles like Katju & Manali where logics go out of the window & come with an agenda..So please don't bring them in the debate/discussion in future & we don't require/ need to hear their unreasonable lectures..
Katju, Manali are both biased
I wish Sanjay Dixit was also in this debate. Maza hi aa jata 😂😂
Shehzaada ka Thappad Manali ko sahi padaa 👍😱🤑😷🤐. Yehi Manaali Mirror Now & NewsX ke show par BJP pi ke khilaaf aag ugali ti rahti hai.
Kaju never accepted the responsibility and accountability of the judiciary. He even sold the nation to the devils but wouldn't accept any accountability. No doubt even UK courts ridiculed and humiliated him for his opinion against his own country.
Suhel oozes wisdom. Hats off! His closing comments, like almost everything he says, were awesome 👌
42:51 Shehjad showed mirror to katju.
This is what happens when someone is only interested in accumulating CZcams subscribers but without the moderation skills! An important topic and initially, all panelists made pertinent observations. Then the chaos!
Kakju mama need honey . As usual shahzaad is awesome and to the point.
This is the first time I am listening to Manali and therefore don't really qualify to judge her views. However I had the oppurtunity to listen to Justice Gogoi's views on this law on TimesNow. I found his views and logic quite convincing.
Justice Katju criticised Indian Judiciary in London court. He is passimist by nature.
This katju lost it years ago, I'm surprised you gave him a platform today!!
One of the best ever debate on this platform.
Shehzad ..jai hind...great fight bhai..🇮🇳
What a fantastic and well rounded panel who are so articulate and knowledgeable on the topic. Having said that, pessimism from a judicial figure at the twilight of his life and career is a bit disappointing even if understandable - I have never missed a chance to vote since turning 18 and still hope that as our country gains more education en-mass with each passing decade (literacy%) - we can never see the light at the end of the tunnel without traversing through the darkness of a tunnel first 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Congratulations Sehzad for giving befitting reply in the manner Katju and Manali they deserve to follow the intended view they believe . Right sedition law is need of the nation to control the conspiratorial move in spreading riots,hate by insisting insurgency against the Nation . It should be rewritten in very clear word that could be the seize of state .
I predicted it back when it was announced. This man has made a decent conversational hour hostile. All hail the Lordship
Advaita ji 🙏🙏🙏🙏
For this kind of serious legal discussion why can't you call excellent narrators like Sushant saren, Aryaman Sundaram, Dr Ranganathan rather than rotten eggs of negative tendency!
Please please every week Katju sir... beautiful entertainment!
Thanx for roasting the people who get away with everything 😂
Shehzad is a real gem
shame this man katju was judge of apex court
Just loved Shehzad!! We need more such people who are not only blatantly bold, but are so super-charged with facts!! Please make him a more regular guest here.
Bring J .Sai Deepak on legal issues
Need to have Shehzad more regularly on these debates 👍 Hats of your Shehzad , Suhel Sir and Abhijeet. You are the voice of us Indians
Great presence of mind in countering pre conceived hypocritical narratives.
Deeply appreciated.
Thanks SHAHJAD .
Ye kya hua mic firse change kr dia aapne?
The afternoon mic test was good.
Debates will be in record and is a civil way todiscuss issues and citizens will appreciate this and wud feel comforted
Shezad on 🔥.... Ultimate....he brilliantly countered it....
I was waiting eagerly for Suhel to use “Ghanta” on Justice Katju, towards the end of the debate, hopefully Suhel will use that powerful word in the next debate.
Truth always prevail . You are awesome Shahzad
Due to anti BJP they don't have solutions but just beating the bushes. What about CAA law,if their is anti citizens.
42:49...katju saying "you r a dal badlu..." lol...to which party katju belongs to? unfortunately he was justice. lol
Katju is a joke. He admits he doesn't even vote. Advaita you should have a timer so some people don't ramble on on... 2-2:30into, 4-5min statements and/or rebuttals. If you need to mute people out, do it. It's your podcast. awww you edited out the shouting brawl at 40:15 with Katju haha.
Any law which is relevant predominately to the colonial period should be revisited ,Reformed and modified to suit the democratic setup we have presently.
Great show today. Man of the match: Shezad, Best Catch: Abhijit, Umpire: Suhel, LBW: Justice, Run out: Manali, TV Umpire: Advaita :)
This is by far the best episode, both technically and educationally
Best Debate after a long time
If only for an hour a week Indian Television can have discussion like these on prime time....
A pipe dream but a dream worth having
Shehzad is a super speaker,please call him regularly
It was well articulated debate. Observations and points made by all the speakers except one, were vital and helped in understanding about the law.
During the course of debate Justice Katju a self proclaimed "pessimist" reinstated a fact which is mere age, holding high office doesn't qualify one to be called a "man of wisdom". Rather it's ones attitude and outlook towards things .
Needless to say both are missing frm Justice Katju.
We only need to address situations causing immediate unrest: What a myopic view to take!
Advitaji, when you have multiple panelists on your show kindly do a sound test beforehand so that all sound levels are somewhat equal so that one needn't adjust volume level every time the speaker changes. Thanks
I loved the way justice katju played victim hood evoking age when Shehzad exposed him about his appointment and hypocrisy at play
Not only sedition ...Many laws are there. Where people git aquited later on...But have to be in jail..
Even in corruption charges...Only poor people are in jail not rich...
Please don’t pick on Shehzad. He brings facts and solid arguments
the fight and abhijit saying naughty boy made my bad day good.
i appreciate a show like this with a wide array of views, which is truly representative of india
Mr.Seth you are very elegant nd erudite in your speech as always.You always not only discuss the issue on hand but provide a solution very few does that.
Shezad ur super and to the point. U always share vital information
I really really love the comments made by Suhel sir and Shahjad,especially the last, of Suhel sir.
His Holiness, just kept asking us to reckon the 'reality'; and no conspicuous trace of suggestions/recommendations, as regard the very issue !
Why should there be only freedom of speech 'against the nation' , there should be freedom of action too against the nation where people should be allowed to break it up if they so like..
ना रहेगा बांस ना बजेगी बांसुरी
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We are a unique country in this world, no other country has so much diversity in behaviour, beliefs, outlook etc therefore we cannot compare our laws and implementation with any other country. Yes most laws which were introduced by the British needs a relook since they were colonisers trying to rule us and now we have self rule. I think it should be debated at forums like this and also in parliament and a law tailored for us should be implemented.
@advaita what has happened to your mic ? We tested it and all was perfect 🤔
She turned it down a couple of notches at the right level at the time of test but some how knowingly or unknowingly seems to have pushed it up 10 levels
This was one peaceful Sunday debate.
From next time , whenever ex judge Katju is there , please definitely call Shehzad...he gives apt response and gives correct facts.