Accurascale 21 Ton Mineral Wagon and Couplings Review at Chadwick Model Railway | 217.
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- After 6 months of running on the layout it's clearly time for a review of the Accurascale 21 Ton Mineral Wagon at Chadwick Model Railway | 217.
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Just adore your unboxing variations. Rip it open, through the things not interesting away on the floor and get to the facts right away. I so wish other chans out there would just come to the point as fast and describing as you. Love it.
Thank you Charlie, great video.
Regards from Sweden.
Marklin and Chadwick are two fine channels. It was such an education watching those 12 new cars get fitted up.
I’m so pleased that you enjoy my alternative unboxings!
Regards Charlie
TBH - growing up in the 60s we had little money so I only got models 2x a year - birthday and Xmas. Opening the box and keeping it pristine to me was as valuable nearly as the item itself...So watching all this packaging get chucked on the floor was quite painful. Different generation I guess.
I only do it for amusement as some channels take unboxing too seriously.
@@ChadwickModelRailway Thats why i find it so great watching you and your chanel. And I thin thats why you keep growing your collection of awards :) You are serious, but at the same time, with that sparkle in your eyes, just love it :)
I find it staggering that such a delicate looking model can take a load of 21 tonnes. Such fine craftsmanship
Don't be so silly. Obviously the 21 tons is at 1/76th scale so these models can only hold about a quarter of a ton.
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I need to reinforce my baseboards! Regards, Charlie
It's in the engineering... craftsmanship does help though! 😂
@@lukewolsey The weight is cube law, so 21 tons IRL would be 21/76/76/76 tons, which is 1.7 oz, ie 50 grams as required!
Thanks for this great review. Admittedly, sometimes I wish manufacturers would dispense with features like sprung buffers in favor of making the models a little cheaper, or adding more detail elsewhere, etc. The only purpose a sprung buffer is likely to serve in OO is to be poked at by a 1:1 scale finger to prove that it is in fact sprung, and that's about it.
You’re pushing on an open door on this one, Matthew. Regards, Charlie.
The white stripe. Had no idea that it gave indication that the end of the wagon opened. Thank you Charlie!! Excellent Video as usual. I've learned so much from your efforts and appreciate your hard graft on our behalf. 👍
Thanks YO, that’s very kind. Regards, Charlie.
Wagons from my childhood in South Wales, although the mine at which my dad worked seemed to make do with the 12 & 16 ton versions. There were even a smattering of wooden plank wagons around the yard right up until about 1980. They had "X" marked on the side doors.
Thanks for taking the time to make the video.
Thanks Stephen, for your contribution on the variety of wagons around. Regards Charlie.
Charlie this was magic this is the wagon, you then test couplings you need this brake van. Plus some how you got a few nuts in to it. This proves learning can be fun.
Thanks Carlton, I’m so pleased that you find the channel entertaining. Regards, Charlie.
Sam's trains would have been jealous of your unboxing lol. Yep, they all come with stuff and boxes good on Charlie.
I’m so pleased that you found it interesting Mustang. Regards, Charlie.
Sams Trains unboxing does my head in...mostly because he is kneeling on the carpet like we did when we were kids...
Hi Charlie another great video as always, I worked on the railway in South Wales for a number of years and never realised what the white stripe was for we used these wagons a lot but but they were not marshalled all the same way, they were also used as a "vac head" where a rake of say ten wagons were all vacuum coupled to give you better braking force the rest of the consist would be the "greys" to make up the train load and you could travel a little faster. As an aside class 37's were known as "68's" by South Wales loco crews as the type 3 became available they were numbered in the 68XX range .... be good stay safe
Many thanks for an interesting comment. I never knew about the 68 naming. Would you know if 9F steam locos were pulling this stock?
Regards Charlie.
There you go! Thanks to Charlie We learn something new everyday!
Hi Charlie. Just a small item that I picked up on towards the end of your video. You stated that because the wagons were vacuum fitted, they needed a brake van. Now, what date this happened, I can't remember but, when I was a guard for BR, fully fitted trains, (with continuous brake on all wagons), could run without a brake van, the guard being conveyed in the rear cab of the loco. The only time a brake van was required is when the last 2 vehicles were not fitted with the, in this case, vacuum brake. This could arise from the vacuum cylinder on the last one or two vehicles being faulty and thus isolated, or where the last two vehicles were 'BLOW THROUGH'/ This means that they had the pipes fitted to continue the vacuum to other vehicles but did not have vacuum cylinders themselves. This happened a lot with empty bolster wagons. Being light in weight, they were positioned at the rear, but having white coloured pipes to distinguish them from fitted vehicles, had to have a brake van, which would exhibit the three light at the rear as the last two were now considered as unfitted. as it they became uncoupled, they would not stop! Having a brake van on the rear meant that we didn't actually couple the pipes on these last two vehicles, as they were usually the first to be removed at the depot, in our case Bescot.
Hope this helps. Being a guard in those days was a bit more involved than at first one thinks.
Regards, Paul in Cornwall.
Thanks Paul, for an excellent comment. I believe that the guards van, was no longer required from the very late 1960s, in a fully fitted train. Regards, Charlie.
Hi Charlie been having a snoop about this is what came to light. 9F 29214 built October 1959 allocated to Cardiff Canton then allocated to Banbury to haul heavy trains of ironstone from Oxford quarries to South Wales steelworks. In November 1961 transferred to Newport Ebbw Junction to work coal and mineral trains in South Wales.
Now here is the interesting bit 21 ton fitted coal / mineral wagons came on the scene in 1961 so 29214 worked in this area till 1964 and there is a very good chance a 9F did haul them and there were a number at Ebbw Junction.
hope this helps .
Regards Ted
Thanks Ted, great research.
I’m convinced that you are right.
Regards, Charlie.
Fantastic stuff Charlie, a really thorough review that answers many of the questions that jump into one’s head, usually when one should be busy doing something else (like when the missus is telling you something important and then she’ll remind you of the following week and you’ll have no recollection of it whatsoever! 🤣😂😅).
I particularly like the coupling tests as these are all things which my slightly-on-the-spectrum-obsessive mind will contemplate as a potential issue. I am not obsessive about detail as such, i just hate when things don’t work properly 🤬 I tend to agree about Hunt couplings, as they seem strong enough to do the job they are designed to do. I do have a very simplified system I made for fixed coaching rakes made paper clips painted black on a spring that fit into a nem-shaped sprue which (fingers crossed) seemed to work rather well (and is very low cost). I was on a strict budget at the time and certainly worked fine when tested, but if they prove too fiddly or unreliable I’ll probably just stick to something like a sprung bar fixed to the underframe. I do like a challenge! 😅🤯
For wagons though, the Hunts and Kadee combo does look good, so I may have to adopt something similar eventually. I have a load of old type 21t wagons I got for about a tenner years ago, precisely with the view of renovating them and creating a rake of pristine and not-so-pristine wagons behind a 9F, so hopefully I’ll get around to it one day! 🤔🙄
Great stuff, thanks as ever Charlie 😎🍀🍻
Thanks Tim, for such an interesting comment. I too had thought about a 9F pulling these wagons which I’m sure they did. However, I couldn’t find any photographic evidence. Regards, Charlie.
@@ChadwickModelRailway: haha, I guess it means I’ll have to apply ‘Rule 1’ or just hand it over to my diesel fleet 😉
Thanks for an exhaustive video on the 21T mineral wagon..I can see why you have included Paul Bartlett's website that's a real treasure trove of reference pictures.
Thanks Bill, and yes, Paul‘s photos certainly bring it to life. Regards, Charlie.
Great review Charlie, and yes the extra info makes it so much more than just a review. The history of these wagons and the industries that used them is fascinating, don't get me started on presflos and cement making!
I’m so pleased that you’ve found it interesting Ed. I shall leave the cement wagons to you, it’s clearly not my area of expertise. Regards, Charlie.
I went down a massive rabbit hole on wagons about 5 years ago and, having built Airfix wagons when young, bought a lot of the Parkside Dundas (now Peco) wagon kits (as well as Slater etc) as they have a nice history and line drawing on the packaging. It enables quite a knowledge of wagon use to be built up. They also come with metal wheels / bearings now so the running is excellent and at around 1/3rd - 1/4 the cost of RTR, allow for nice rakes to be built up and/or in 3's for shunting like Charlie does with his. You can then put prototypical couplings between wagons eg Kadee or similar at each end for shunting. It all comes down to dexterity and budget I guess but can be very rewarding, especially if loads are added eg from Ten Commandments which not only look good but add weight, saving the need/cost of the 5g weights for empty wagons. Cheers
A Friday afternoon bonus! I always enjoy a Friday afternoon when they land 😊
That’s very kind of you to say so Tim. Regards, Charlie.
Charlie, you deserve a big thank you from all the “new” modellers. Leaving aside the actual model manufacturers you presented a video that was so informative on so many levels. For those of us who are modellers first and train people second we have limited knowledge on what wagon goes where and with what. Today you educated us on - couplings, far better than any written explanation, the weight of the model when running empty (why don’t. The manufacturers go for the scale weight?) you taught us about the guards vans and lighting, and before I forget radius of setrack. It would be interesting to have a similar video on your stock or even a comparison between the ancient and the new like an old 37 compared to a new 37 etc. The only drawback, and it is my own making is the scale is wrong for me. Reviews like this one are invaluable and should be the norm when reviewing a model. Are there any N Scalers who can do this kind of review for us?
There are modellers out there who know far more about modelling and the prototypical correctness but those of us without this knowledge need to learn so thank you Charlie for an excellent video - more please.
Thanks, grump. It’s comments like yours and make the whole thing worthwhile. Regards, Charlie.
Love the 6 different coupling demonstration. Might as well be a model coupling collector too!
Thanks BC, I’m so pleased that you found it interesting. Regards, Charlie.
Thanks for a great video, the wagons look great.
I’ve got to say that you’re spot on with the unboxing part, some people spend ages waffling on about the packaging when all the viewers want is to see the actual model.
Thanks Stephen, I’m so pleased that you find my unboxing entertaining. Regards, Charlie.
Hi Charlie,
Another great and informative video.
I have recently purchased some Dapol wagons to use on a small shelf shunting layout.
I like the wagons because they are cheep, run well, have nice simple detail and importantly NEM pockets.
I have fitted them all with Kadee couplings which look to be at the correct height etc.
They are badged OO but they look a little small compared to other trucks I have (pos HO scale).
Keep up the good work.
Bryn
Thanks Bryn, I’m so pleased that you found the video useful. Regards, Charlie.
Comprehensive coupling guide .. especially helpful to newer people to the hobby .. I have switched to mostly hunt couplings .. I do like Kadees but it’s tricky getting consistent height nem pockets .. ever for the same vehicle and from same brand .. ie Bachmann .. different production batches over time .. excellent video Charlie 👍🏼 23:35
I couldn’t agree more Lance. The Bachman catalogue is stricken with NEM errors. Regards, Charlie.
What a lovely surprise Charlie to have a bonus episode just a week after your last one on your shunting yard. I am looking forward to a future video on Kaydee couplings for Bachmann MK1 coaches.
Sure Simon, do your Bachmann Mk 1s have NEM pockets? Regards Charlie
@@ChadwickModelRailway Hi Charlie, yes they do have NEM pockets.
Hello Charlie!
Thank you for the good introduction to various couplings, even if the wagons are too new for my layout this was useful.
Thomas,
Thanks Thomas, I’m so pleased that you found it interesting. Regards, Charlie.
A good and fair review Charlie of your 21 ton wagons (they look fantastic), many thanks for sharing the different types of couplings available. Regards Barry.
You’re most welcome Barry, I’m so pleased that you found it interesting. Regards Charlie
Great video - always good to see options back to back, and we can look forward to weathering some time in the future!
Thanks Gavin, I’m glad that you found it interesting. Regards Charlie
Enjoyed that as ever. Entertaining, informative, informal yet professionally produced.
Thanks, OF, that’s very kind of you to say so. Regards, Charlie.
Thanks Charlie, always appreciate your advice / experience on railway modelling.
Thanks, Roger, and many thanks for your kind donation. Regards, Charlie.
A nice surprise of a Friday evening to see an update only a week after the last one, really enjoyed it Charlie looking forward to seeing you weather those wagons!
Thanks, Alan, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. Regards, Charlie.
Another nicely done video .. and thankfully no 15 minute sermon on packaging configuration 👍
I’m always here to please Doug. Regards, Charlie.
Great video Charlie, really liked the format. Very informative. The unboxing did make me chuckle 😂.
Thanks, Lee, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. Regards, Charlie.
Yet again... another great video Charlie. Thanks for another very entertaining and informative presentation! :)
Thanks Al, I’m so pleased that you found it interesting. Regards, Charlie.
Awesome review Charlie! The extra information over and above isn’t it pretty is so much more useful, many thanks
Thanks Tony, that’s very kind of you to say so. Regards, Charlie.
Really good video Charlie! Would love to maybe see a continuation of this, with the weathering/mineral loads that you decide to go with. Again, most excellent work, keep it up!
Thanks KJ, and a useful suggestion as well. Regards, Charlie.
I love this channel! It's my 2nd favorite model railroad channel on CZcams. Please keep up the good work! Let me go look at that Patreon now.
That’s most kind of you to say so David. Regards, Charlie.
What a fascinating video. Enjoy watching Chadwick evolve from baseboards to a scenic world and the rolling stock being detailed enough that it makes a visual difference and not for a rivet level accuracy.
Thanks Glen, it’s great to have you on board. Regards, Charlie.
That was excellent! As a relative newbie, I never knew about bauxite vs grey, the significance of the stripe, the type of guards van, or lighting thereof. Thank you Charlie.
I wish there was a "Ladybird book of Modeling Railways" that encapsulated all this!
Now, if somebody could explain the significance of full/partial/lack of yellow ends, it would help in my selection of locos...
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed the video. As for the painting ends of Locos, it was time related. They started plain, then half yellow and then full yellow. Regards, Charlie.
An excellent episode Charlie returning to the engineering of a product. But blimey, the price and that you bought 4x packs! Half yer luck! :-) Then to consider weathering them, there is no way I could that. I have built several of the Parkside kits, fitted the metal wheels and added the 5g weights (x2) under the chassis. They run well and the detail is really nice. I dry brush weather the underframes to imply track dust and fill with model gravel on raised platform inserts. Your overview on the couplings was also informative' I took a similar path on the Kadee's after much research and find them alot easier to fit than the photo-etc Spratt & Winkle PE ones I tried to build up. I also forgot I have those compartment cases so need to 'decant all my couplings into those so make sorting them easier - thanks for that. In conclusion, on the subject of braking systems etc, Jennie Kirk recently did an excellent video on all the braking types, and markings, and guards van types. Worth a look if you haven't seen it yet. Cheers
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed the video. I can only totally agree that couplings are clearly a nightmare. I shall take a look at Jenny‘s video later. Regards, Charlie.
Kinematic couplings only work correctly to widen the gap between the wagons or coaches on curves if they are joined by a solid bar coupling. That’s why Hornby supply them with their coaches. Kadees or tension lock will not work correctly. The magnetic ones should be ok as long as the magnets are strong enough to maintain a solid joint. I first saw these kinematic couplings I think in the 70s or 80s on Roco rolling stock. When fitted with the special Roco or Hornby couplings the kinematic works brilliantly and you can pull or push the rolling stock without trouble, ideal for your helix’s. Great review by the way.
Thanks Alec, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. Regards Charlie
Very helpful thanks Charlie.
Thanks Mark, regards Charliy
Hi Charlie thank you once again for a brilliant video, well a surprise swift video.
Having been an admirer of railways all my life but, only modeling in the last two years, I find this sort of video so interesting, informative and very helpful.
Especially helpful is where to look when weathering engines and rolling stock.
I look forward to Fridays on Chadwick Model Railway in anticipation learning something new tinged with some great humour.
Thanks David, I’m so pleased that you find the channel interesting. Regards, Charlie.
Great video Charlie I certainly learnt a few things and will be taking your recommendations into account.
Thanks Arthur, that’s very kind of you to say so. Regards, Charlie.
You should've played this video around Christmas... I can see it now... opening scene of a much anticipated Charlie's unboxing vid. After a brief but measured, concise introduction he then starts tearing and ripping the boxes and wrapping apart with teeth and claws, throwing the Japanese level packaging, now mere confetti, about the room, like a feral five year old on crack seeking out his next hit... in the meantime viewers around the world expecting a calming, sedate and relaxing unboxing either keel over in shock at the brutal display of ferocity or start frothing at the mouth as they fill the chat/forums with indignation, vitriol and outrage... As it happens the video when paired with the comments generated, goes Viral and Charlie is the first mature age gentleman to achieve 100,000,000 views in a single week! Closing scene sees Charlie wink and smile at the camera as if to say "I might be onto something here."...- The work in that rolling stock was marvellous... seriously, It was an interesting and engaging presentation... Thanks Charlie...
Thanks, NDV, very interesting comment. Much appreciated, regards Charlie.
Well done Charlie, another very honest appraisal of some decent wagons. Keep on doing what you are doing. Cheers Lindsay
Thanks Lindsay, that’s very kind of you to say so. Regards, Charlie.
Those new coal wagons look great, and I remember we had a ex LNER one at Brighton that was used as a coal store for the breakdown steam crane, and then we got it at my local heritage railway museum that I was also involved with ,It's that one I sent you a photo of Charlie. I also remember any overtime I used to do at Hove station ( which consisted of checking doors were closed on the trains and sending them off and drinking lots of tea 😂) but used to watch the regular House hold coal train from Didcot with south wales coal being shunted in the yard and was regularly hauled by a class 73 or class 37 locos , and even between duties got some cab rides up and down the yard ,happy days 😊
Thanks, Ian, for an excellent comment. Yes, those were happier days. Regards, Charlie.
Thanks for the video, I found the review on couplings to be extremly useful. Thanks
I’m so pleased that you found the video useful Wayne. Take care, regards Charlie.
Another great video Charlie it was very interesting might need to invest into some of these wagons. Keep up the good work
Thanks OR, I’m so pleased that you found it interesting. Regards, Charlie.
Great review. Interesting to watch.
As to the Australian directional markings on wagons, in Queensland, it is due to the 'Kwikdrop' doors, an automatic mechanism that opens the unloading doors under the wagon. If the wagon faces the wrong way, the mech on the wagon is on the wrong side for the mech at the unloading facility to engage it.
Thanks Rowdy, I knew there was some example of this down under. Regards, Charlie.
A very nice review Charlie!!! Thanks for sharing this video. Cheers Onno.
Thanks, Onno, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. Regards, Charlie.
Very interesting Charlie. They have some great detail to them, weathering should be fun.
Thanks, Andrew, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. Regards, Charlie.
Great video Charlie, especially different couplings
Thanks Alistair, so pleased that you enjoyed it. Regards, Charlie
Great review Charlie, loved the comparison on the couplers
Thanks mate, I’m so pleased that you found it interesting. Regards, Charlie.
Great video Charlie. Very interesting to compare couplings as well. Love reading the comments. Thanks for sharing. Roy.
Thanks Roy, I’m so pleased that you found the video interesting. Regards, Charlie.
Charlie, great swift, but longer than 10 minutes.
Very interesting review, and detailing on your (As in British) 21 ton mineral wagon. I found it super interesting.
I am now going to have to find out about this randon stripe on some "Australian" Wagons. I did a quick check on the NSWGR (New South Wales Government Railways) wagoins, and no stripes obvious, but I will keep digging.
It may have been a British Engineer that came out, and said, hey you need stripes - stranger things have happened.
Than k you for sharing, cheers, and stay safe, Michael
Thanks Michael, and good luck with your investigation. Regards Charlie
A very good in-depth review, Charlie 👍
ThanksJeff, I’m so pleased that you found it interesting. Regards, Charlie.
Great Charlie, thoroughly enjoyed it.
Thanks Kevin, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. Regards Charlie.
Always interesting and i always learn heaps, cheers Charlie
Thanks four oaks, that’s very kind.
Regards, Charlie
Another good video, thanks charlie, interesting and look forward to the next one 👍
Thanks Mark, I’m so pleased that you found it interesting. Regards, Charlie.
Thanks Charlie, very informative.
Thanks Kev, that’s most kind. Regards, Charlie.
Always fun Charlie. Thanks for all you do!
Thanks Steve, that’s very kind of you to say so. Regards, Charlie.
Another great video, I found this very enjoyable highly informative and love the idea of doing the research in model railroading, and living in the US I want to thank you for the explanation of curve designations in the UK, I use Peco track and turnouts (points) and am sometimes confused 👍
Thanks Jack, I’m so pleased that you found the video interesting. Regards, Charlie.
Excellent video as always Charlie. Cheers, Andy
Thanks, Andy, that’s most kind. Regards Charlie.
Great video Charlie, thanks. Would love to see weathering and loads in another video, maybe the renumbering as well.
Gosh, no pressure then Michael. Regards, Charlie.
Nicely done, thanks for sharing,,😊
I’m so pleased that you found it interesting. Regards, Charlie.
Thanks for a great video, Charlie. You can run mixed or partially fitted goods trains as well and from reference photos in the early '70s the vacuum braked wagons were stacked to the front. Quite complicated as the driver had to work out the braking distance. Air braked trains often did have a brake van with a yellow stripe to activate the brakes because many diesels were vacuum brake only as built and had to be retro-fitted with air brakes.
Many thanks for the detail. Much appreciated. Regards, Charlie.
Well, that was well worth watching! Ime with you on Hunt Couplings, I use them for about everything which I| don't want to auto uncouple.
Thanks Paul, I’m with you all the way.
Regards Charlie.
nice surprise video Charlie interesting as always seems my comment on last weeks video came true lol and now we all only have to wait another week for your next video bonus regards Geoff
I’m spoiling you, Geoff. Regards, Charlie.
Charlie, I love your version of “unboxing”. There’s plastic, there’s a box, there’s more plastic …. right, now on to the good part. 😅 Paul
Thanks Paul, I’m so pleased you enjoy my light-hearted unboxing. Regards, Charlie.
I have 4 packs of these and I love them.
On the couplings front, out of curiosity I tried the 3 link coupling supplied with the wagons (tension locks removed of course). On my curves which are 500mm or greater the couplings and buffers work a treat and it looks mint.
I had a minor issue with a couple wagons buffer locking but this was resolved by opening the butterfly on the end of the buffer shank. The wagons are set up in fixed rakes with tension locks at each end.
Thanks Chris, that’s very interesting. I’ll have to open up the pack and check them out. Regards, Charlie.
Yet another great and interesting video; the fact you have reviewed the wagons on differing radius curves is something many if not all miss: Great attention to that; then you have loooked at the various possible options for couplings. Wow there was no stopping you on this review Charlie. Stock group advise and then pics for load and weathering. Great video; question is how many takes did you do when the wagons were trying to roll away and escape 😂😂 All the very best Marc from Leighton Buzzard
You make a Fairpoint Marc, the wretched things just wouldn’t stay still. Regards, Charlie.
Nice review Charlie … your Greek is coming on well !! All the best !!
Thanks Nigel, rest assured, it’s all Greek to me as well. Regards, Charlie.
Brilliant video Charlie
Thanks Mels, regards Charlie.
Nice, they do seem reasonable cost too. I have always liked trains of the same wagons.
Thanks Steve, I’m so pleased that you found the video interesting. Regards, Charlie.
Nice review with a good insight into the different types of couplings.👍
I know it's nice to have super detailing on the underneath of rolling stock but unless you are modelling derailments I don't see the point.
I couldn’t agree more John. Take care, regards, Charlie.
Hi Charlie, very good review. Interesting that they come in sets of three, just right for your shunting configuration.
Seems terrible to say that they need weathering!! Look forward to seeing you tackle that one in the future.
Have a great weekend!!
EDIT: You're over 70k now, subscribers not age!!
Thanks David, I’m so pleased that you found it interesting. Regards, Charlie.
Very informative Charlie 👍
Thanks, Martin, regards Charlie
Enjoyed the review, a great guide for the couplings, I would've liked a cursory rolling test across several wagons to test rolling friction or lack of. Thanks Charlie.
A Fairpoint hotdog, and one that I clearly missed.
Regards, Charlie
Thanks for the coupling detail. Yes Hunt’s are really good. You could mix the couplings to get a slightly larger buffer gap for 2nd radius if needed. Steve
Indeed Steve , that’s what I do on my HST set. Regards, Charlie.
Charlie, thanks for the effort in doing all the comparison work for other people.
Just a note about the tipler line (diagonal stripe) and you comment about overseas applications. In both the US and OZ many (most) heavy haule orecarriers DO NOT uncouple the individual waggons before dumping the load. They use a rotary dumper which turns at least one, and sometimes more, waggons on their side to let the ore drop out. To do this one of the couplings between the tipping waggon and the adjacent non tipping waggon has to rotate on its axis. The rotating end of the waggon is marked by a contrasting colour panel. The tippler operator is responsible for ensuring at least ONE coloured panel at each end of the tipple table!
Best wishes
Arthur Haberlin
Thanks, Arthur, for an excellent piece of information. Regards, Charlie.
Very interesting review Charlie 👍
Thanks Alan, I’m so pleased you found it interesting. Regards, Charlie.
Thanks
Thanks Wayne, that’s most kind.
Regards Charlie.
Another good one Charlie, those wagons are really detailed but a little pristine
I couldn’t agree more Martyn.
Regards Charlie.
I am a Kadee fan and won't use anything else. Nothing beats them when shunting is required. In my opinion they also look the best.
I thoroughly understand your point of you, Sam. Regards, Charlie.
Hi Charlie what a lovely film I never thought that a model company would go to such detail on a simple wagon it's a hit with me nice one......😅
Yes, Clive, the detail is incredible. Regards, Charlie.
I run bachmann DMU 9mm on most of my stock but have kadees on ends and locos where i know I'm likely to uncouple. Love it!
I’m pleased you have found a workable solution. Regards, Charlie.
Great video Charlie!
Thanks, Ken, I’m so pleased you enjoyed it. Regards, Charlie.
@@ChadwickModelRailway Charlie; When BBC I returned to the hobby the first time I got into N scale. All the couplers were Rapido. Very reliable but not very realistic. Soon after the Kadee company came into existence selling both N and HO couplers. The price of the couplers was 2/3’s or 3/4’s the price of anther piece of rolling stock. Needless to say they never got charged.
As it turns out Kadee was owned by 2 brothers. Like brothers do they I heard had an arguement. The brother that liked N scale left and started Microtrains. I am in the process of changing couplers.
On the different note: I especially found your video on block signals very informative. Waiting for your next video.
Marvelous explanation of using different NEM couplings. Maybe You have an idea how to manage them on older non NEM pocket wagon, such as continental Fleischmann, Lima , Rivarossi etc.
Thanks for all your previous explanations.
Best regards from Slowenia.
Matjaž
I’m so pleased that you found the video interesting. Couplings are such a nightmare. Regards, Charlie.
State side I add weight to my rolling stock with small flat square wheel weights with a factory installed adhesive pad used to balance tires. You just have a friend with a tire store. To buy them from an auto parts store they are a little pricey as they come in lots of 500 at $65.00 USD
Many thanks for your advice. I tend to use a sheet of thin lead and then cut it to size. Regards, Charlie.
Love your engineering approach to these mineral wagons. You took a great wagon and make it greater. Still amazed at the braking systems in the UK. In USA everything is air braked. Bill from California
Everything is air braked now. Vacuum brakes ruled in the steam days and took around two decades after to be eradicated. Early diesels were built with vacuum brakes and many were later retrofitted with air brakes , some being dual braked or converted. Some diesel classes meeting an early end due to having vacuum brakes. As Charlie mentioned, many wagons had no brakes at all requiring a weighted brake van, like your cabooses, at the rear of the train that the guard could apply the brakes incase the train became separated. They would arrange trains with the braked stock immediately behind the loco making sure there was enough brake force between the loco and lead wagons to be able to stop the train!
Ours too Jane, but only from the 1980s. Regards Charlie.
@@steviefilm Thanks for your insight. I'm still on the learning curve when it comes to railways in the UK. I'm curious in the days of UK steam how many wagons could a loco pull with the vacuum system? Bill, an old bloke from California
Awesome Video Charlie
Thanks Christopher, so pleased that you enjoyed it. Regards, Charlie.
perfect Charlie keep it up
Thanks, Les, that’s most kind.
Regards, Charlie.
Seeing those clean from the box wagons causes me to recall the aroma of Floquil paint and getting various wash colors on the rolling stock.
Tah, of course, after having taken all the blank cars and lettering them to the club's livery and the car numbers allotted out by the club.
Well, that’s an interesting renumbering scheme captain. Regards, Charlie.
One of those wagons is broken! 3:59 Those waggons are beautifully detailed, but I would be scared to run them on my railway because there is so much detail that can get broken over the years.
But they will only break if you take them on and off. Regards, Charlie.
Hi Charlie. That was interesting Charlie i have done all my wagons with magnetic couplings also, not that brand though and happy with them. Thank you again Charlie for your time and effort.
Thanks Tony, I’m so pleased that you found the video interesting.
Regards, Charlie
Swift Charlie? It may have bene longer than you aimed for, but the "beyond the box" review including couplings, train patterns and Paul Bartlett's references makes all the difference. Please can you do part two on weathering, ideally from the photos including re-numbering (if you have not done this before)? i have some of the MDVs and i think they will have Hunt couplings when i am ready to put it all together.
I’m so pleased that you enjoy the video Andy. And thanks for the future suggestion. Regards, Charlie.
I have had Hunts couplings for sometime now and a few of them have started to break and I have had to glue the magnets back in as well.
Yes, but that could be through constantly breaking the train up I imagine. Regards, Charlie.
A good review of both the wagons and the myriad of available couplers. While it's nice to look at I can't really understand going into so much detail on the underside, unless you're planning a train crash! Cheers
An interesting pointDavie, mind you I have enough of those as well
I think the coal was stacked in 3 heaps in the wagons in the picture. Worth checking before you commit to adding the loads
Thanks Peter, I think that you’re right. Regards Charlie
Hi Charlie
This is the type of review I appreciate as I’m not interested what the box is like but how they run and what couplings they work with.
Cheers Kev
Thanks Kev, I’m so pleased that you found it interesting. Regards, Charlie.
Hi Charlie, excellent review. Can you do a video (swift?) about how your store your rolling stock on and off the layout? Things to consider would be temperature. humidity, sunlight etc.
It’s an interesting subject, Stephen. However, it really depends on your environment, I’m not an expert on a shed or garage environment or an attic either. Regards, Charlie.
Love the review of the different couplings, I really must move away from tension lock at some point. Interesting you're using nuts for weights in a wagon - I use 1p and 2p coins as they've a really low profile and cost (literally...) pennies. A 2p coin weighs around 7g, so I generally use 3p worth (a 1p is half the weight of a 2p). I also use excess foreign coins that I know I'm never going to spend again.
An excellent tip using coins.
Regards Charlie.
Charlie - it looked like there were three peaks on the coal load rather than two? I'm going to have to do some reaserch to see if I can find other pictures of these loaded 21T mineral wagons. Another great video to watch at the end of my working week - many thanks!!
I think that you right Ash.
Regards Charlie
Good video on channel nice train s thanks lee
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it, Lee. Regards, Charlie.