Comfy Laurels? Tamiya's CC02 Bronco
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- čas přidán 3. 07. 2024
- Is Tamiya's CC02 Bronco Worth Buying? Meet the Tamiya Item# 58705-A, the 1/10 RC Ford Bronco 2021 on the CC-02 platform. Yep, the same CC02 which has been around for years now. Some things just haven't changed - and Tamiya seems to like it that way.
There's a lot to like about the licensed 2021 Bronco reproduction that Tamiya has plopped onto their venerable CC02 chassis. But is it enough to overcome the weaknesses and older design of the platform? Join us for a closer look and extensive trail run with this admittedly very pretty RC crawler.
Let's test!
PS. Oops! I forgot to mention the lack of ball bearings! Plastic bushings all round for this one, with a few brass bushings on the axles. That's it! (I used ball bearings in mine but if you're not going to drive this terribly much, you totally don't have to).
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CHAPTERS
0:00 Tamiya CC02 Bronco
8:25 Running Footage
9:16 The Value Proposition
12:08 Trail Drive Thoughts
14:30 Other Options!
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The CC02 is not a Tamiya attempt in the scale/ crawler world. It is just a CC01 modernized. That's it. If you expect more than that, especially in going trhough obstacles, get a MST CMX or CFX which come at a similar price point in a kit version, but will have a real trail crawler experience. However, Tamiya remains strong on their basics: the body is very good, and the building experience is nice!
Nice summary. The CC02 is getting long in the tooth and I think it's overpriced for what you get today, but I have agree otherwise. Tamiya make a good kit.
I hope there is a day when I hop onto the internet and I see a new crawler release from Tamiya that is competitive with other manufacturers. The Bronco looks great and I'm sure the smiles-per-drive ratio is high but I can't help but wish there was a higher level of performance. Thanks for the video and I hope you have a great weekend!
Thanks Chris! Same to you and agreed
Tamiya , I love building them , hate cutting out stickers and am always fairly underwhelmed when running them 😂😂There's definitely a nostalgia to them but I'm always left thinking "is that it"
Lol you could have saved everyone 16 minutes - that one sentence sums up the whole tamiya experience!
Their on-road stuff is still really good though. Nothing quite like the XV01 out there.
Nice review. Tamiya always does their own thing, which is part of their quirky appeal.
there's a lot of laurel sitting...EPIC line right there!
Good job on the review!
Thanks Mark, it's a relief to have this one finished. Been seeing the unfinished body on my bench for months!!
Thanks enjoyed that, i was quite surprised coming back to 1/10 scale RC many years later after 1/10 racing cars TT-01 etc that Tamiya wasn't doing a great crawler.
Tamiya does a Tamiya crawler, heh, yes. Oh well, at least they're pretty!
I thought the movement of cc02 was too toy-like, but after watching the video, it shows good movement.
I watched with interest.👍👍👍
Oh thanks for letting me know, I'm glad you found it useful.
It does move well, yes. It has its faults but this is not one of them :) Good observation!
I have several Tamiya kits ranging from cc01 to tt02 rally to m06 track, I still love them so much, they are very good childhood memories and a good kit overall.
I also have traxxas, element rc, wpl, axial and I just got myself for my birthday (50 years!!!) a reissue of a 1982 buggy.
The Kyosho legend scorpion 4X2 full aluminum kit, I must say that I have never mounted such a beautiful kit in my life.
The simplicity and quality of this kit is absolutely amazing.
I really think this kyosho kit is the best I have built.
Think about it, the kyosho legend scorpion 4X2 buggy.
Happy 50th and enjoy your Kyosho buggy! I'm gonna go look at it now :)
Ed. I love that chassis design! Really cool, it makes me want to design something similar to it - it's simple enough that it looks really tempting to try!!
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THANKS
Honestly you will not be disappointed, it is a chassis from the competition of the time, the double beam design makes it solid and light!
I love this buggy, the kyosho is really fun to drive, you can feel the quality, the balance of the chassis, the sturdiness, but above all the vintage side where driving was more important than speed!
I put in a tamiya Super Stock RZ 23T 53697 carbon motor and I have to say the power is more than resonable for this kit.
I also have a Lunch box from tamiya, really very very nice and super fun!
Thanks to you, I also have a great element rc crawler, the sendero trailwalker, which gives me a lot of pleasure.
In short, my top 3 of all my kits.
1st - kyosho scorpion
2nd element rc sendero
3er tamiya lunch box
and the 4th favorite the traxxas TRX4 m defender in 1/18 that I can take everywhere with me in my backpack.
Have a good day down there.
The frenchi...
Now that's a great all-time list, I like it! This is a lovely looking buggy, yes indeed :)
Loving the love for Tamiya...it's sort of a company that does its own thing - however much you may dislike it - and it sticks to it. That's the whole charm of it - only Tamiya does Tamiya.
Heh yes!
This so much. I am tired of every manufacturer doing the exact same thing. It doesnt feel like I have any choice. Tamiya are also one of the few still making kits; I absolutely DESPISE RTRs, but you simply dont have much choice when buying a basher. (except for Tekno MT410 and the HPI Baja)
@@xXYannuschXxplenty of crawler kits around at least, if that's your thing :) Maybe one day
@@RCTNT My local basher group has a few crawlers in it. And I seriously thought about it.
Also: its kinda weird that crawlers are one of the few areas that still have many kits.
Moved on from tamiya start of the 90s. Although i did purchase some rare vintage ones 10yrs ago and had the chance twice to bid on my old celica grb. I buy for performance and quality now in kit form or scratch build. To wet or to hot out...kit time.
I like how you think :)
The body is cool, and perfectly matches up to my old ECX Barrage wheelbase.
Thinking I'll cut off the bumper and use my bumpers the ECX came with that look like my real life 2022 Bronco with aftermarket bumpers.
I reckon that'll work nicely if the wheelbase matches.
Always interesting to watch your videos and your views on things, especially with this one! I'm a big Tamiya fan, I probably got 15 buggies or something, and also this one I got my eyes on...
Funny enough, I find that my Gatekeeper just basically drives over anything I put in front of it, I figured I'd try one of these for a bit more of a challenge...
Sadly the project got put on hold, I bought body, motor and a bunch of upgrade parts, but never managed to buy the kit... Yet...
Heh if you want more of a challenge you've got the right kit in mind!
I really really liked the look of it in the first previews when it was launched, but after carefully looking at your review, even after the last footage, I really can't see myself justifying getting it.
Still, thanks for saving me the money, and the enjoyment of looking at it. I think it's still the best looking Bronco of all the ones that have been released (of the 2021 model), in my opinion.
Ooh thems fighting words
I'm partial to the TRX4 version myself, ss I love the longer body and just think the white one is brilliant. But I can't argue that tamiya has the detail over the others!
I just bought the body, build&painted it and plopped it on an MST swb chassis. Done. Great looks ànd pretty reasonable performance.
The MST crawlers aren't bad, eh!
I like adding weight to the chassis and body. It makes it react a little more scale. Great review Cheers
It's tricky finding the right balance but rewarding when you get it right!
I’ve built a lot of Tamiya kits, they are a good experience to build. Totally agree on the screws; get a Tamiya Philips jis driver and you’re all set. I was a while back really hoping that Tamiya would step up considering the competition these days. But no, they still keep calm and carry on 😂. Sorry Tamiya, I was at a time tempted by this kit, but as you Craig, RGT amongst others have drawn my attention lately. Also, less time to build, so I prioritise mods instead these days. Great review!
That's all nicely put and thank you kindly. I largely join you in that sentiment.
If it wasn't Tamiya it wouldn't be worth mentioning but they have figured out that monetizing nostalgia pays pretty handsomely. Good on them but eventually they will pay for their complacency in an ever evolving market. Eventually...
Hm, that's well put and I agree. Good point.
Especially if you grew up thru the 80s when wild willy and the grasshopper were the toys to have !
Heh yes! I used to dream of having a rock crawler that would fit on your hand and now, finally, we're living in the future!
"It's like going to a McDonald's in a different country"...excellent 😂
It was really fun the first few times as a kid. Now we're grown up and know of much better fare... not so much!
Tamiya produces a lot of really excellent kits. Theyre tanks are absolutely superb.
They also make the Bronco.......
I can feel the heat from that burn all the way over here
I bought a heap of after market hop ups for my cc02 bronco and it makes quite a difference. Obviously.
I bet! What are your favourite mods for it?
I prioritised links, including steering. Wheels and tires, bearings (lol tamiya) and some chassis protection bits..
Nice. I forgot to mention I filled this with bearings too! Thanks for the list
Craig, you just prevented a disability pensioner from a whole lot of regret.... Again!!! 😆
Keep up the good work and stay safe, my collection and wallet thank you for every video you post
Aw that's great, Ron. I mean, sorry to shatter any illusions about this car... er, I mean, thanks for letting me know this was helpful! Yeah, let's go with that :) Cheers!
i was looking at this awhile ago and the only appeal to me was that it was essentially a functioning model, but yeah a first gen SCX10 would crawl circles around this thing
edit: i see that SBR 2.0 in the background!!! my first large scale RC, it's a shelf queen now because the upgrades and repairs are so damn expensive but it's still one of my favorites
Haha yes that's waiting for my 2 year video, coming on May 27. Looking forward to driving that!
Not much into the kits, but like this one! If you could suggest a non-kit, rtr crawler of any kind for a first time crawler, in the $100-$150 range that would make one really like to crawl, what would it be? Another great video‼️👍👍🦾🦾
With that budget I'd strongly suggest going with a used option. But if you want to buy new, consider the FMS FCX24.
i made a cc01 and turned it into a rally raid truck. unlock the diffs and you are set.dakar style👍
Ooh that's a cool idea!
I love Tamiya, but I'm not sure this is really their forte. The Rock Socker is listed as a crawler, but isn't really, and this appears to be the same!
Shame really.
But I wholeheartedly agree, they should never change!! 😎👍🏻
Nicely put. They know their corner of the hobby and they do it well. I'd like to try their trucks one day.
Like so many older people I started out with Tamiya so I have a soft spot for them, and they can sometimes do good things - but so often they just don't. Sometimes it's like you're building the sort of thing Banggood does RTR for $50, only it's not $50 and doesn't have bearings. And what damn decade do their designers live in? Have they even seen a real car? There's 'quirky' design and then there's just bad...
I guess if they're printing money with their old stuff and making new molds for new designs is expensive, why change..
I'm glad we have all this choice though, as I showed near the end of the vid here. Cheers
might seem like a dumb thing to say but if you file the tip off of a philips it works much better putting these together. Ive put quite a lot of tamiyas together...i have never bothered to buy a proper JIS bit set. If you try to put them together with a plain old philips youre gonna get frustrated they tend to cam out pretty easy you have to put a crazy amount of force down. However if you just file down the tip a bit, works a treat.
That's a great idea (it ain't dumb if it works!). I used a JIS bit - they're somewhat common in Australia, given our proximity to and trade history with Japan, but that's a neat hack. Thanks for sharing!
@@RCTNT ah makes sense, you can certainly buy the bits here in the states but they are generally not something you have lying around the house. Philips bits however are all over the place.
I think of Tamiya as a kinetic model set. You buy it for the building experience. Most become shelf queens.
Their road cars are more usable I think, but the CC02 and CC01 can be coaxed into service with some changes. You're probably right for many of them, sadly!
It seems to be on par with something like an MN 1/12 scale RC.?
How does it compare to the WPL stuff.?
I discussed the MN comparison at the end section of the video - the first of the two I held up next to it for size and price discussion.
The WPL C44KM for example is similar to the MN86KS but a little smaller and perhaps less capable again.
How does the body scale compare to the Traxxas 5dr Bronco?
It's a good question. The tamiya is likely to be an accurate reproduction while perhaps the Traxxas will have taken more liberty with theirs to get it to fit their trx4 platform. I haven't checked the measurements and done the math to see for sure though.
The chassis is not meant for crawling. It is a Cross Country chassis. Hence CC02 . Mainly for trailing.
Thanks for the detail, I didn't know that's what cc stood for.
@@RCTNT Really enjoy your reviews. Very informative 👍
Thanks, it's good to hear that 🙂
It’s a interesting RC it’s nothing like I thought it’s hard to believe the front bumper is part of the body & very thin definitely don’t want to go out on the rocks. I think we all wish they would entire the real Crawler market with a solid Crawler with full metal links etc etc
Honestly, if they even just put solid foam behind the body, attached to the chassis in a bumper mold, that would strengthen it considerably. It is a pretty car but, yes, not a crawler!
Hey I was chatting to you about the rgt boxer and even though u said it will go onto your possibilities list, I would greatly appreciate it if you do review it soon since I’m looking for a 1/10 and there aren’t many reviews for the boxer and I want to find out if it is good for my money
It's on my list but "soon" at this stage its June/July. I'm preparing to film the biggest series on CZcams for a particular subject and fitting in sponsored videos around that series. You might have to find your answers elsewhere if you're in a hurry, sorry! Busy schedule here!
@@RCTNT Ok thats all good
Don't get me wrong it's a great looking rig but when you open the box and see the parts trees that need cut and sanded i find it a little toy looking, I guess in my defence I've only built Traxxas kits and there amazing to build.
I've built kits from everyone at this point and the most toy-like ones to build are the MN86KS and WPL models that snap together. If it's a continuum, tamiya kits are next, then you get to more refined kits like those from gmade and axial, then traxxas takes it a bit further... And then you get to the better stuff like RC4WD and cross rc and you think you've reached a pinnacle... Until you then build a boom racing kit. Then you realise what you've been missing!
@@RCTNT I couldn't have said it any better myself. I find I have a closer connection to the ones I build no matter it's make.
Another great point, that's true
I know this is old, but can you make a content about swapping this bronco's body with the RGT 136100? Really want to have a bronco but can't afford trx4 😂
Do you mean with the V3? They'd be similar in size, but I'll check the wheel base for you, sure.
@@RCTNT wow thanks for replying! Yes the V3, I'm curious if it fits with stock tires from V3, or needs to change the size of the wheels. I saw in FTX group & CZcams they changed the wheels
@kondoshoji7367 well, I have a problem. I'm really sorry but I've been looking for the tamiya for 20 minutes now and I simply can't find it. I have no idea where it is!! Ive got the RGT right here and I was going to measure everything up for you in comparison, but until I can find the bronco, I'm afraid I won't be much help to you!
I'll keep looking and if I manage to locate the car, I'll reply here again. Humble apologies!
@@RCTNT hahaha it's okay, it'll be hard to find since you have so much kits. Thank you for replying and giving feedback. One more thing, there's a TRX4 bronco clone called HB R1001, maybe you can review it if it is sold in your area, the prices are pretty good for 1/10. Thanks!
Its the first car I've actually lost. I was wondering where it was recently. I have a terrible memory, it's possible I've given it away, but I simply cannot recall.
For what it's worth, the RGT 136100 V3 is a much better car than the Tamiya Bronco. I know you want that body and maybe you could get it later on, but for a driver's car, the RGT is far superior.
I can't get that trx4 clone here for any reasonable amount of money. The RGT Rescuer is similar money and very, very good.
I love how guys complain in their reviews about bump steer on a crawler. 😆 “Vastly affected”. Just stop. It’s ridiculous to even consider that it’ll be noticeable at walking speed trailing and basic crawling. Seriously guys.
I take your point but respectfully disagree; it really is noticeable. It's the worst part of this model, IMO. But beside that, if you build a scale model, you want scale function, right? For many of us, it's part of the fun to know the rig is working like it should.
Go a bit less scale and look at the Carisma SCA-1E, for example. It has the same design shortcoming as the Tamiya here, but it's less pronounced. However, it's still bad enough that it prevents the rig from doing basic lines it could otherwise drive. I corrected it on the RGT vehicles affected by this too, and could measure the improvement - even showed a performance comparison on a closed course in a Before and After for the EX86110 when I did it for that one. It was a measurable improvement in ability.
I mean, you can dismiss such criticism as being silly, as it's just a toy, etc., but my whole channel is about such toys. It would be weird to not discuss something like this, no? In the scheme of things, of course it doesn't matter. But we're looking at RC cars, so discussing such things is kinda the point :)
I'm designing a fix for the SCA-1E steering. It's worth the effort. You may not agree, and that's fine. But I think it's worth it!
I always understood that, Tamiya does not make hobby grade RC’s just toys. Meanwhile, others more popular and a little more expensive, like Traxxas or even Kyosho, is much better. They are Hobby grade with interest too. Tamiya is just toys. I bought the CR-01 crawler by Tamiya, very good but.., you would definitely want to get more advanced parts and electronics. I made a very capable crawler with the CR-01 and at the same time.., I transformed it from a crawler, to a racer on 1.9 inch mudslingers. I got it to go about 40 mph on a stock tranny. Of course lubricants and cleaning made the difference.
40mph!? Lol awesome.
And yeah you're right, really. 😊
Oh no! Not the T-word!
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