Wish I knew this before spending $3k on plugins (might save you $69) [Ft Disclosure, Laxcity, Eskar]
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- Plugins don't write hits. Here's how to not waste your money.
Stay tuned for my "Best Of" Black Friday (26th) & Cyber Monday (29th) videos.
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ABOUT THE VIDEO
Don’t buy plugins you don't need. With Black Friday VST plugin deals everywhere, it's important to remember there are some paid plugins actually worth buying, some not. You have to find plugins that work for you, or other ways to improve your music. Before looking for "the best black friday plugin deals", ask does this plugin help solve a problem for me? Hopefully you can find some plugins you really do need, and are really worth buying.
🎵 DISCLOSURE
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🎹 JAY ESKAR
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🎵LAXCITY
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👋SOL STATE
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🔥MUSIC BY SOL STATE (Outro Song)
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Same idea as the channel, help you master music production (no spam)
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🏷PLUGIN DEALS* (Supports Channel)
Disclosure's Kick (Big Kick) [Preset "Cutline Kick 2"] - bit.ly/disc-kick
Decapitator (seen in this video) - www.pluginboutique.com/produc...
RC-20 (Kenny Beats uses often) - www.pluginboutique.com/produc...
Oxford Inflator (Disclosure uses a lot) - www.pluginboutique.com/produc...
Scaler 2 (for better chords) - www.pluginboutique.com/produc...
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*some of these are affiliate links (meaning you can support me at no cost to you)
⏰ TIME STAMPS
The Lie (Stay tuned for Black Friday video) - 0:00
Disclosure - 600million plays without fancy plugins - 0:49
Stop Waiting For Perfect Gear - 1:32
Gear Myth ft. Disclosure - 2:06
Hacker Mindset ft. Laxcity - 2:32
Your Plugin Tool Kit (Chef Example) - 3:22
All That Matters ft. Jay Eskar - 3:59
2 Helpful Questions (might save you $69.42) - 4:20
Why Fun Is The Goal - 4:40
Value Investing like Buffet - 5:09
Personal Fit - 5:39
Why Jay Eskar Likes To Work Fast - 6:08
DAW Weak Points - 7:06
Summary+ (plugin deals below, supports channel) - 7:53
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I don't always buy plugins, but when I do, they're analog and go in a rack. 🕺🏻
I remember a thread in one of the Ableton forums in like 2012 where some company was trying to make a physical rack for .vst. Don't know if that ever came to fruition but it sure was in impressively wackadoo idea.
:)
That's a complete and utter bullshit, plain stupid statement. 👎
I love your Omega 458a digital plugin.
so I shouldn't buy your plugins? hah
no magic plug in or sample pack will change your life, it’s all about what the idea itself, great video man keep it up!
Great videos man. Love your channel. Tons of great advice 💜
Thanks David!
theres actually alot of artists that have figured out such specific reveerb sound signatures that carry their sound design quite a bit, i know because ive made leads and growls where atleast half the sound design is reliant on the reveerbs tonality
Your videos release at just the right time. I was going through this dilemma of buying plugins.. or sticking to the free ones
What a great channel to stumble across. Get's my mind focused on what matters. Big ups!!!
Love this one! Thanks for this video man!
5:02 this cracked me up 😂 Really like this video ❤ Great work! and really informative for upcoming producers who are sometimes lost as to how to make music sound good.
Thanks, Sol. Great vids. Keep it up
so much great advice as always. Thanks Sol State!
OHHHHHH...so what you're saying is... Reading between the lines... With complete certainty and sincerity... is that... I should buy The Drip plug in.
/s
Great vid Sol. Onwards and upwards.
Hahaha guess that onslaught of ads worked
@@SolStateMusic For sure. His marketing strategy earned him major meme money.
Lol, just one click!
@@Wranglinjanglin wohhhh woh woh... that's two clicks to you pal ;)
This video sums up tens of years in making music, beginners, watch this thoroughly!
It tells you the bottom line on a golden platter!
Honestly, all you need today is ANY DAW and FabFilter EQ, Compressor, any quality reverb and a versatile soft-synth. With that you are just as suited as the big guys with the fancy studios for electronic music production.
With all that you have basically what pro engineers have
Just found your channel. Love you take on things, telling it how it is.
Agreed, and well said. I'd add that investing in workflow and habit building can also be worthwhile. Plugins could help with workflow, it it could be rearranging your space, getting the "right" midi controller (to suite your needs), etc. Also, another caution against some plugins is the manufactures business practices. Forcing paid upgrades for OS compatibility and support, inconstant pricing ranging from hundreds of dollars to tens of dollars during deals. I respect companies such as Valhalla or U-he who set their price and stick to it. You buy it if you feel it is worth it (and at $50 for a valhalla plugin it certainly is).
Love your stuff man. I feel like I’ve grown in skill since I’ve started listening to it. Great quality learning material.
Honored, thanks!
That Warren Buffett impersonation was on point, hahaha. 🎯 Great video!!
Excellent video. Thank you Sol State!
the ableton logo at 1:04 killed me lmaooo well played Sol!
My favorite part too!
Logic Pro and Fl Studio still rule the charts, though; and Pro Tools for mixing.
WONDERFUL video, WONDERFUL. God bless you, brother
You have helped so many producers (including myself) with an abundance of tips and tricks, thank you for summarizing all these gems into a short video!
Great video Sol
Great insights, your videos are so helpful ❤
Thanks mate!
I love your videos ❤️
ONe of my personal favourites for adding a little snap and bite to my drums is to use the logic phase distortion plugin, tweaking the settings for taste, but you can entirely change the sounds with it and make live drums sound almost sampled.
Awesome - superb advice.
Great video thanks!!
Ive always worked on my pc but about a year ago I got laptop to produce on as I have been travelling a lot
I started fresh and only installed the few plugins I knew I couldn’t live without. My tracks have been so much better since doing this. My workflow is 10x faster and I’ve been much more creative with options to distract me
My best ever tip was learn to truly understand what your chosen plug in can do before you buy another. A lot can do the same things.
awesome video, thanks alot bro
Thanks Sol !!!
Perfect timing for the video
That Ableton edit 😂😂😂😂
Love it!
Great video.
I love you sol, can’t tell you how much you’ve helped me
Glad the videos have helped :)
you are a god to us newbies for compiling this info
A fun one for me is Koji. Super simple and cool looking interface.
the video we all producers needed to watch
07:05 dude, you are really teaching jewels right now, I teach also and I love this insight it’s priceless for young minds.
Ohhhhh yeeeeeaaaaaaassssssss, sooooooooooo TRUE!!!!!!!! I could have saved a lot of money as well if I knew earlier!!!!!!!! 🔥🔥 But it is sooooooo compelling.............. 🙏🥰 Great video as all of your content - thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great video
GREAT VIDEO
Awesome! Started a shopping list based off this haha. If you’re making a Cyber Monday one as well, I’d love to get some recs for mastering plug-ins (I.e good cheaper alt for Pro-L and the like) and maybe an LFO tool. Thanks for all the work you put into this video!
Best cheap alternative for Pro-L is TDR limiter 6 GE, or any Izotope bundle (with Ozone's limiter). There's also an older free version of TDR Limiter 6 (looks ugly tho). Volume shaper is basically LFO tool. Working on Cyber Monday vid, hopefully done in time.
Since moving to analog gear I use way less plugins. Before, I was trying to use plugins to get digital to sound more analog. Character EQs, character compressors you name it. I didn't even know how to use half the stuff or it was just never good enough. So yeah this hits home personally as I wasted a bunch of money before I really focused in on the hardware that gave me the sound I was looking for.
Can wait for this Black Friday video! When will it be out because I live in Australia and we are a day ahead. Really want to watch it before black friday. Love you channel keep it up:)
I'll release the video as early as I can on Black Friday itself! Need to see the deals first. Glad you're enjoying, thanks for the support!
i feel like you can compensate for 3rd party plugins using multiple stock plugins grouped in a rack.
A lot of the times that's what 3rd party plugins do.
Yes also if you know how to automate things this can be done too. The thing that taught me most about my DAW way back in the day, was learning how to program it to Sandstorm with nothing but stock fl-studio plugins, I wish I still had that file lol
maybe your best video!
Solid guidance. Shout outs to everyone who lost their long-time tool kit when VST moved from 32 bit to 64 bit plugins.
@@amremorse Jbridge hasn't played very well with my copy of Cubase. I have a super long blacklist, even 64 bit. Is that "the one" to use, or are there good alternatives?
So so true!
Best music pro channel on youtube
Cheapest, best sounding upgrade you can make: A couple of low cost bass traps and some wall treatments.
Buy some fiberglass insulation batts, glue some canvas on them -- volume is more important than quality here, if you're on a budget.
Plugins are fun to have... when composing its mostly down to the harmony, melody and arrangement. When mixing its down to your ears.
Plugins aren’t a crutch just tools where needed. However if having a shit load of plugins makes you feel good then why not.
good comment. Very true
That Warren Buffet voice 😂😂😂.. This is the first Black Friday I probably wont be spending any money on plugins.. Im uber satisfied with what I have and ive learned to manoeuvre and work around with what I have
that buffet voice cracked me up man!! lol
Thanks for making these videos and spending hours adding the text on screen for everything you say. 😁👍📺🎶
Hahah thank you! Those overlays take ages
@@SolStateMusic no doubt 😁👍
A quick note about "budget speakers:" Susan Rogers used to mix Prince tracks and pair of $40 Radio Shack speakers. It's not the gear, it's the ear.
Soothe 2 is a plugin that i will get in black friday. This is Gold
Good lesson! I'm not going to use those cheap plug-ins I bought for the sake of low prices only.
thats why i ended getting the neural dsp offers. i have a big amount of plugins to mix and sound engineer. i just needed now some character for guitars .
Laxcity: "Hack your DAW, break your DAW, use things in your DAW that are not supposed to be touched" (Proceeds to simply tweak the DAW's interface, as the developers intended). That aside, good video. Appreciated!
I’d love to see sound design plugins in the Black Friday video - specifically plugins that make sound design more visual. Kinda like what the OP-1 does. I’ve tried out the OP-1 because someone I knew owned one and I noticed the more visual representation of everything really helped me with sound design.
Thanks for the feedback. Have you tried Serum, Phase Plant, Or Vital?
@@SolStateMusic I’ve never really been a very big fan of Serum to be honest, and I’ve heard good things about Vital but I’ve also heard it’s very complex so I’m a bit nervous to look into it. I’ve never heard of Phase Plant though, I’ll check that out.
prettyscope :)
Take a mic, or even your phone mic and record the hell out of what you find in and around your house and where you live. Filter it, chop it up, distort, saturate, delay it, resample it, speed it up, slow it down, go granular. There are no plug-ins that will match fresh ideas and your inspiration to begin with. Once you get going, your imagination is pretty much the only limit.
@@MazeterMusic I don’t think you read any of what I was asking about but thanks for the advice I guess
Love
As an owner of 400 plugins, I feel you a lot!
400??? Man clean that shit up! I only got 20!
@@N.n.i.k 20? I only use 7 plugins lol
@@domenucakar Instruments also: 3 free vsts and 4 mixing plugins, plus stock Ableton. My Softube and Soundtoys packs are getting dust lol
I cant stop collecting them...450gb raw plugin files, data, sample, presets not included. Hard to tell exactly how many of them working as some of them keeps loosing the fight against time, others simply glitch with system, but last time I saw a number after a thorough scan taking ages was 1400+ I need help !
@@whoismysterionguy Sometimes updating system and updating daw breaks plugins
Yes,suggestion,compare the eq or compresor with the better version. The best in any category like the last years video.Please share your knowledge about mixing.
Categories, hear ya. Maybe some mixing tips on day too...
Sole State spittin facts
I just like the idea of having random sounds generated
freaking love logic
As a songwriter turned electronic music producer. - agree with this so much. I start everything on acoustic guitars ... good songs translate. I spent years trying to create professional mixes .. logic can help you do that and then some - forget about the insane value of MainStage for live work. its such shame Apple are Operating System S*** when make totally effective hardware sometimes redundant.
Soothe is sick af
hey
i am a non musician who wants to make music,
watched deadmau5 masterclass,
came up with chords,
now is there processes or vst to make pattern from the solid chords other than arps
bro thank you for watching all these streams I didn't have time to!
One thing I would love to see in the plug-in video is how to get a good upgrade deal. For example, someone with Neutron or ozone elements mining across grade promo to standard or advanced.
got elements free last year and a really cheap 'upgrade price' to advanced 2 weeks ago
Thanks for the feedback. That's a very hard question to answer cause it combines what you have , with what you want, with a personalized upgrade path. If there's any hacks I find, I'll mention it. What works for me is just buying plugins I actually want. As in focus on quality not "the deal".
The Ableton flash killed me HAHAHAHAHAHA
Dang, this made me realize I dont need to be spending on mixing/mastering/fx plugins as thats not the focus. Too bad it doesn't look like instrument plugins really participate.
The mAudio bundle pack of plug-ins are completely free and they are tons of great ones in there. the comb plugin has some really cool presets. Also some really good advice in this vid, just have fun play around for hours just making music and not teerking the sound or doing sound design, you’ll lose your flow and end up making something that sounds nothing like what you had in mind when you started. When you have a song in your head immediately get to your DAW and record it with just a plain piano preset. Mozarts wife would frequently get upset with him Because he would never cuddle after sex. Right after he climaxed he would spring up out of bed and go straight to his piano and play the song that came into his head. Later on he would come back to it and mess with the supporting instruments, ie mixing and mastering. But getting that sounds out of your head and onto your computer is crucial, buy a keyboard make some go to templates and just have fun.
What I always remind myself when it comes to plug-in's is "Do I WANT this or NEED this" lol
I really hated this thought of mine:
"You need money to be able to make better music."
Making the best music you can shouldn't be just pay to win. It has to be reachable by as everyone as possible. There's someone there for sure who has a dream of making the best music as he can but didn't have the budget to buy a daw, plug-ins or gears, not even a computer and a decent headphones. What about people like that guy.
Huge thanks to the generous ones who made free daws and plug-ins who have putted so much effort into their work just for us current/future producers/musicians. The one I appreciate the most is Matt Tytel for making Vital synth basic for free, that's definitely full featured (with some pretty tiny exception) now that I have a powerful sound design weapon. I knew I really needed a free synth like this in the beginning.
money isn't necessary, but you better get yourself down to the ol mason lodge if you want to have distribution.
you don't want that. that''s why things don't change.
welcome to music technology.
I only really use LFOTool and Valhalla Supermassive, the rest of the effects and plugins I use are already in FL
Know-how can also compensate for the lack of tech. You can do a better job with some free compressor like Molot than if you used a fancy expensive compressor with "analog simulation and 'color and warmth'" but slapped one of its presets because you had no idea how to manage it.
one of my favourite producers had an ableton phat rack that sounded better than anything I've ever heard. After waiting weeks to see whats inside, was quite surprised to see that it was ALL stock plugins. After recreating it its now my go to (and I own a few decent plugins myself).
You got a link? 👀
Exactly. Just look at the stock plugins inside Logic & FL Studio 20. They really are pretty phenomenal. You can easily get amazing, professional results with them.
what producer?
You can include the plugins that come with a midi keyboard. Analog lab V has literally all the sythersizor plugin sounds you could possibly ever need and comes included with a $200 midi keyboard. Well I payed £95 for a used Autria Keybab essential to get Analog lab V.
The video is about mixing plugins. Not about VST instruments.
For me plugins are more about convenience and time than sound. You don't buy a software synth plugin because it sounds the best, you buy it because the interface helps you get to a sound fast and its a lot more convenient than hardware synths. You shouldn't get a mastering plugin because it sounds better than something else, you get it because the meters on screen paired with the controls make your life easier.
A lot of people argue over which plugins sound the best and how plugins compare to hardware but at the end of the day the most important thing is how you use the tools to get the job done. This is coming from someone with like $20k in hardware synthesizers and other hardware gear. The software gets used more often because its faster and more tweakable, then I use the hardware to go in later and fine tune some details - the hardware inspires a unique sound as well and really encourages decision making, but it doesn't really sound 'better' on its own in most cases.
I struggle at coming up with ideas and finding happy accidents as well as turning something into a full song
My lazy ass doesn't like working after being at work(I'm 26 and am blessed with rent and bills lol) but I do my best to remember this if supposed to be fun. Buying stuff is a hard thing to not do imo because for me at least, when I buy a plugin I almost ALWAYS use it the second I buy it. Don't get discouraged and get those hours in, do it for all of us who can't get enough time to work a day
OTT. Make sure to add it to every snare
5:13 warren buffet voice 😂
I spent that much on plug ins actually and they have helped.. to be honest and to the point the idea has to be decent. I am not a creep looking at ladies undergarment... just honestly a friendly guy and a good dude with other dudes... so to the point.... life experiences are also key... but what has helped me most is good sample.. quality vocals... great plugins give your ideas shape and give you options... but honestly it is all about musical composition/song writting/arrangement and knowing at least the basics of musical composition.
Must have free plugins: Melda, Airwindows, Toneboosters Legacy, Analog Obsession, and Surge.
Logic Pro simply has the best software bundle out there, so much better than any other DAW bundle.
"developers all over the world hate him for this one secret"
starts off video with: "plugins are not a substitute for bad ideas" before devolving into "okay okay fuck all that, lets get these plugins tho, here are the ones you should buy" I know sol state gotta be waiting for that black friday fabfilter sale
Haha welcome to my BF buying habits...
Day 1 - "Nah I don't need plugins, it's all about the idea..."
Day 2 - "Where did all my money go?"
I'm using just FL stock plugins. And couple free ones like Vital, OTT and some other. Endles options. The mistake I've made was buying gear. Now I need just a laptop, haedphones, daw and a mouse.
Yup! I would say maybe a midi keyboard with some pads but that's all you need. Whatever lets you work the fastest and the best. I've been trying out XO for the last few days to see if it could replace the way I do drums currently, and I might reorder my workflow just because how fast it is for browsing samples
Probably saved me some money
lol love the buffet voice
Haha hopefully the one and only time ;)
Most of expensive plugins just do whatever you already can do but faster. I think they're unnecessary most of the time, and almost all of them can be mimicked with 2 or 3 more cheaper / free plugins. Sure, you spend more time crafting sound and mixes, but wasting an extra 15 minutes for what is basically a pretty close aproximation of that $150 [Insert premium plugin], is worth the extra effort for a pretty small difference.
Honestly the only reason why I'd get new gear nowadays is if I saw it and thought to myself that it looked fun or offered something I can't achieve with my current gear, that gear is usually semi-modular weird stuff now.
I think more emphasis needs to be made on treating your room. If you don't have a well treated room you can't hear the plugin's, synths, anything as it should be heard.
Treat your room, get sonar works and learn faster.
There´s a big difference between Logic & Ableton in terms of build in plugins&presets. They are way better and professional sounding than in ableton. Not only the plugin quality, also how synth presets are pre-mixed with logic plugins. I still choose to work with Ableton, because of the workflow and the semi-modular structure.
love the Warren Buffet's voice, hahahah
i copped the izotope bundle mostly because i really love the sound of trash 2 and it usually goes for 200 bucks but the bundle costs 99 and it comes with ozone, neutron, and a bunch of other stuff
Did you see my video with Jauz on the 7k trick? He uses Trash 2's "convolve" in a really cool way.
Yeah I got the 50$ izotope bundle a while back for the same reason, and I've definitely used Trash way more than anything else in it lol