Avid watcher of your channel from across the pond,. For what my opinion is worth, this Prevost has blown my mind away. Just fabulous, ans as for the performance up the hill..Wow. Thanks for hours of great entertainment. Good fortune to you and your family. Cheers, Bob
The 60 Series is one of the best Diesel engines ever made, they had a long production run, 25 years or more before they were replaced with the DD15 series. Truckers still love them to this day!
Every engine has it's advantages and disadvantages, the 12.7 series 60 is definitely the best around engine with the least downside. The only real downside to a series 60 is when it comes to pulling power, they just don't pull hard like a 15L or 16L even with similar ratings. I re-powered my prevost xl-45 with a 600hp 12.7 series 60 when the 8v92ta broke for the last time. That swap removed 1200 lbs from the rear of the coach.
G'day Scott, Kevin here from Australia. That's a BIG bus your gunna need to extend the shop. Thanks for sharing it's cool the variety of buses your working on. Great content. ✌🏻 Peace.
Yes! Nothing like the sound of the whine of straight cut timing gears. The 60 Series sounds somewhat similar to the CAT 3406 engines as well because of that aspect.
Keep showing the problems on the parts that need to be replaced, seems like some neglected / forgotten maintenance. Thanks for educating me / us on these air line systems. Keep these buses rolling.
I have the same engine in my 40 foot prevost bus conversion. When I'm not towing my 7000lbs jeep and the coach isn't loaded down, driving on the interstate is like driving a 50,000lbs Cadillac! Smooth and fast as you want. Tons of fun to drive.
@@billmoran3812 But brutally expensive up front ! Ken-worst wanted 8000 dollars more spec`ing discs over plain old S-cam brakes. And to be blunt, nothing against Kenworth, but I could tell you which stealership to avoid.
You're getting way too many customers at one time LOL you going to have to put up another building sorry to say and cut down a few more trees to get the room that you really need and should have for those beautiful buses coming and going on your property. You're making people happy everyday and that's good
That piece of land you have there would make a spectacular place for all the bus communities to park and meet up ,, I can see it now all layed out in parking bays electric and water connections, barbecue areas,,, and get your bus serviced and repaired at the same time OR AM I DREAMING. Regards John the UK 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Sorry Bill, but the "Crown Royal" conversions were done on a Prevost bus in Indiana by Monaco! The Bus (Shell) was made in Canada, but the "Coach" part was all done in the states!
@@stanleyflory6702 Seeing as the shell was all we saw, Bill was correct in calling it a beautiful Canadian Made coach. You get credit for the interior, if and when we see it! : -)
You are so right the old two stroke is like a model T ford compared to a 60 series. It's entertaining to watch two strokes being worked on, but all you can do is shake your head when you think of the high maintenance , fragility, belching smoke and low horsepower. They might have been ok 75 years ago but high quality four-stroke diesels make them look just plain silly in modern times.
Sorry what? Packed with sensors, computers, valve trains, atrocious little room to work around and lower quality parts. There's a reason 2 stroke Detroits are (generally) tough as hell.
My mistake for not clarifying the era of engines that I was talking four stroke versus two-stroke. But you take a 3406 Cat like I had- never did a thing to it you couldn't break it tough as nails had 800,000 miles on it didn't burn oil, ran like a clock never failed ,simple as all get out you compare that to those two strokes? Same with the old 5.9 Cummins .lt is rare but not unheard of to see a million miles on a 5.9 Cummins WITHOUT an overhaul ,try that with a two-stroke what a joke, it's laughable how much better the four-stroke is, not even a close - sorry fellas.
When Roger Penske bought Detroit Diesel from GM, the agreement only allowed him to produce the Series 60 for GM for ten years before he owned the rights to it. He then took Detroit Diesel from a liability to profitability in a year! Employees became team players because of the way he treated them.
Hi Scott and Tyler, I live in the UK so why do some US coaches have the tag axle behind the main rear wheel, whilst some have it in front? Is it to do with whether the tag axle is steerable? Also, just wanted to congratulate you on having started up your business from scratch on your present site. You should be very proud of what you've achieved. I been watching your videos for several years and have enjoyed every one. Thank you.
Scott, I'll take a picture of a New Flyer brake rotor when I get back to work on Tuesday and send it to you via Instagram direct message. They're larger than that tag axle unit and vented on every axle. The articulating 60 footer will stop in a shorter distance at 20 MPH than the 2 axle 40 and 35 foot coaches.
Stick with the XLII pre emissions series 60. The new Volvo engines are nice with plenty of power but they do have lots of problems with the DPF system, like all diesel engines after 2010! Had one and went back to a XL40 Marathon with a pre emissions series 60 and love it!
Did you see them AFTER the tensioner had been reactivated? They don`t let them flop around like that in road service. Same thing on the big blower units on the older MCI coaches that were up above the engine in the blower bay. You release the tensioners if going to be parked for a long time or if need to remove the belts for access to something.
When was the last time the trans fluid and filters were changed? This isn’t something to over look either. Transynd fluid is a must, make sure those filters are OEM and not after market trash. What about the coolant?
So what’s your opinion on the new Super Single on the drive axles. The 2017 Prevost H I drive has them. I’m not crazy about them myself. At least with the duels you could at least limp the bus off at the nearest exit. You don’t have that luxury with the super single tires
I ran super singles on a KW truck. Flat tires are rare these days and when you do get a leaker, they have such a huge volume of air in them that it takes forever for them to go flat.
I prefer duals anyday over super singles. Better traction, better water or snow or slush dispersal in extreme conditions, and yes, the ability to limp limited distances on one tire if its mate has failed. Super singles are good at one thing, reducing overall weight, so if you`re one of those carriers who promises their customers that you can carry 48,000 on a tandem configuration, then SS is the way to go, but when push comes to shove, the dual config still reigns supreme.
I much prefer duals over super singles because of bad weather performance. I dove part time back in the 90’s for a company that replaced their entire fleet with KW’s with disc brakes and super singles and didn’t car much for either of them. I drove in the DC Metro area and as long as the road was dry the super singles were great but if it was raining, sleeting, or snowing than that was a different story as for the disc brakes at least back then in heavy traffic the disc brakes did not work as well as drum brakes to me they seemed to suffer brake fade from heat build up when compared to trucks with drum brakes. I think the disc brakes would be fine flat land trucking but driving in heavy traffic or on winding twisting roads with hills they reminded me of driving 1960’s land yachts or trucks with drum brakes that you got a couple of good hard stops and the next time you better just toss out the anchor because the brakes had gone on vacation. The company took it on the chin and dumped almost half of the KW’s with the Super Singles and Disc brakes well before the least on them was up in favor of Mack’s with duals and drum brakes because of accidents by drivers who had perfect driving records and drivers who quite because they hated the KW’s so much.
What is the three way valve? What does it do? How do you know it’s defective? I heard you say the five way valve and the purpose of manually manipulating the air bags to level the coach. What year? Mileage?
Understand it's tight quarters but if you can't maneuver that thing you shouldn't be driving that thing. I think you should have to have a CDL to drive it anyways I have to have one and I got all the same equipment as them motor coaches have.
Okay he's no longer the bus Grease Monkey I'm giving him upgrade 2 bus wizard. The way things are going now what's going to happen with diesel fuel one everybody wants to go all electric the sad sad day.
Takes lots of diesel powered equipment to go electric! Tons of small electric plants powered by natural gas but guess what without diesel powered equipment there would be no natural gas coming to the surface. Diesel engines will be around for many more decades!
You got to start looking at alternative power electric or hydrogen fuel cells, 7 Years Time these diesel buses will be banned from the road already phasing out the gas buses they haven't been out long the quicker you do it the better better for everybody's health and the environment. Have you spoken to them bus manufactured are they planning on doing conversion kits
Your new shop is really busy and a blessing to bus owners who come to you for service work.
Avid watcher of your channel from across the pond,. For what my opinion is worth, this Prevost has blown my mind away. Just fabulous, ans as for the performance up the hill..Wow.
Thanks for hours of great entertainment.
Good fortune to you and your family.
Cheers, Bob
Sounds like he hit the Jakes near the top to slow down!
@@nickidewet7711 Agree....he did hit the brakes before the top. Says a lot about the bus!
I enjoy having a beer watching and learning so much from you , thank you and cheers from Phil in Australia
The 60 Series is one of the best Diesel engines ever made, they had a long production run, 25 years or more before they were replaced with the DD15 series. Truckers still love them to this day!
Every engine has it's advantages and disadvantages, the 12.7 series 60 is definitely the best around engine with the least downside. The only real downside to a series 60 is when it comes to pulling power, they just don't pull hard like a 15L or 16L even with similar ratings.
I re-powered my prevost xl-45 with a 600hp 12.7 series 60 when the 8v92ta broke for the last time. That swap removed 1200 lbs from the rear of the coach.
Love the turbo whistle on that prevo...
You realize that when the word gets out among Provost owners of the good work you do you will become inundated in short order
G'day Scott,
Kevin here from Australia.
That's a BIG bus your gunna need to extend the shop.
Thanks for sharing it's cool the variety of buses your working on.
Great content.
✌🏻 Peace.
Wowwie!
That 60 series not only made it up the hill, I thought it might turn the hill into an Evil Kenevil jump!!😳
Aw yeah. Love the sound of that series 60, and the AIR BRAKES!!! LOVE those air brakes!!!! :-D
Yes! Nothing like the sound of the whine of straight cut timing gears. The 60 Series sounds somewhat similar to the CAT 3406 engines as well because of that aspect.
It didn't even flinch going up the hill!!! Looks like belts on a combine! Thanks!
Keep showing the problems on the parts that need to be replaced, seems like some neglected / forgotten maintenance. Thanks for educating me / us on these air line systems. Keep these buses rolling.
That Series 60 slings that Prevost around with no problem.
I have the same engine in my 40 foot prevost bus conversion. When I'm not towing my 7000lbs jeep and the coach isn't loaded down, driving on the interstate is like driving a 50,000lbs Cadillac! Smooth and fast as you want. Tons of fun to drive.
First coach I’ve seen on your channel with disc brakes! Didn’t think they ever used them. Biggest solid rotors I’ve ever seen too!
Most new trucks and buses are equipped with disc brakes. Much easier maintenance than drum brakes and more reliable.
@@billmoran3812 But brutally expensive up front ! Ken-worst wanted 8000 dollars more spec`ing discs over plain old S-cam brakes. And to be blunt, nothing against Kenworth, but I could tell you which stealership to avoid.
You're getting way too many customers at one time LOL you going to have to put up another building sorry to say and cut down a few more trees to get the room that you really need and should have for those beautiful buses coming and going on your property. You're making people happy everyday and that's good
I am amazed at how long the belt throws are.
jake brake at the top thats hillarious i love this guy thats something i would do
These big old newer coaches come up the BGM mountain like a race car up Pikes Peak.
I never saw a bus going up the hill as good
Braking going up the hill,that’s a first 😀😀
That piece of land you have there would make a spectacular place for all the bus communities to park and meet up ,, I can see it now all layed out in parking bays electric and water connections, barbecue areas,,, and get your bus serviced and repaired at the same time OR AM I DREAMING. Regards John the UK 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
A beautiful Canadian Made coach. Awesome scott.
Sorry Bill, but the "Crown Royal" conversions were done on a Prevost bus in Indiana by Monaco! The Bus (Shell) was made in Canada, but the "Coach" part was all done in the states!
@@stanleyflory6702 Seeing as the shell was all we saw, Bill was correct in calling it a beautiful Canadian Made coach. You get credit for the interior, if and when we see it! : -)
I still enjoy u r videos, keep them coming
You are so right the old two stroke is like a model T ford compared to a 60 series. It's entertaining to watch two strokes being worked on, but all you can do is shake your head when you think of the high maintenance , fragility, belching smoke and low horsepower. They might have been ok 75 years ago but high quality four-stroke diesels make them look just plain silly in modern times.
Sorry what? Packed with sensors, computers, valve trains, atrocious little room to work around and lower quality parts. There's a reason 2 stroke Detroits are (generally) tough as hell.
My mistake for not clarifying the era of engines that I was talking four stroke versus two-stroke. But you take a 3406 Cat like I had- never did a thing to it you couldn't break it tough as nails had 800,000 miles on it didn't burn oil, ran like a clock never failed ,simple as all get out you compare that to those two strokes? Same with the old 5.9 Cummins .lt is rare but not unheard of to see a million miles on a 5.9 Cummins WITHOUT an overhaul ,try that with a two-stroke what a joke, it's laughable how much better the four-stroke is, not even a close - sorry fellas.
That is a gorgeous coach. The old 2 strokes are cool but that 60 series is a beast of an engine
When Roger Penske bought Detroit Diesel from GM, the agreement only allowed him to produce the Series 60 for GM for ten years before he owned the rights to it. He then took Detroit Diesel from a liability to profitability in a year! Employees became team players because of the way he treated them.
Series 60 ddec 4 non egr 12.7 greatest diesel ever .
So true. Have one in my 40' Marathon coach, will not trade it for ANY modern coach.
You just can’t beat a series 60 with that 6 speed Allison.
I know the two strokes have their fans but you must agree that climb by a four stroke was sweet.
..the term.."trying to turn around the Titanic"...comes to mind...what a huge bus!
Would of been neat to of seen a quick interior tour. Any idea when Tyler is going to post another video of his conversion?
Hi Scott and Tyler, I live in the UK so why do some US coaches have the tag axle behind the main rear wheel, whilst some have it in front? Is it to do with whether the tag axle is steerable? Also, just wanted to congratulate you on having started up your business from scratch on your present site. You should be very proud of what you've achieved. I been watching your videos for several years and have enjoyed every one. Thank you.
And...Another Satisfied Customer!!!
keep the clips coming
he wins the race up the mountain
Doesn't count if the bus doesn't start from a complete stop at the stop light at the bottom of the hill.
Great video as always
Says a lot when somebody comes all the way from Texas to you for maintenance!
Amazing what 1300 ft lbs of torque can do with a 43,000 pound bus. Climbs like a homesick angel.
Fire up the chainsaw, a few more trees need to go for those big boys.
Whoa that's a BIG GIRL almost like the articulated ones in Canada 🇨🇦
Did someone forget to tell that bus it was climbing a mountain
Scott,
Why not mark the floor at 40 and 45 foot marks where the coach is where you want it regarding the Quonset hut roof?
Food for thought
Great video
Would definitely vote on longer videos if possible
Breaking uphill is just another way to assert dominance
Hill? What hill! Lol did my first air discs a few weeks ago. Rather easy!
That’s one very nice coach 😍😍👍👍
Do you recon them belts could be any longer
God job keep it up 👍
That was definitely not Jade Grenade powered. hahaha
Scott, I'll take a picture of a New Flyer brake rotor when I get back to work on Tuesday and send it to you via Instagram direct message. They're larger than that tag axle unit and vented on every axle.
The articulating 60 footer will stop in a shorter distance at 20 MPH than the 2 axle 40 and 35 foot coaches.
one of three buses i'd replace my RTS with. the other two are the XLII and the X3.
Stick with the XLII pre emissions series 60. The new Volvo engines are nice with plenty of power but they do have lots of problems with the DPF system, like all diesel engines after 2010! Had one and went back to a XL40 Marathon with a pre emissions series 60 and love it!
@@curttundra thank you. That is my plan.
Damn what a Beast.
Seems like those belts need idler pulleys to eleminate the belt slap
Wow those long belts are sorely in need of some idler rollers to calm things down a bit!!!
Did you see them AFTER the tensioner had been reactivated? They don`t let them flop around like that in road service. Same thing on the big blower units on the older MCI coaches that were up above the engine in the blower bay. You release the tensioners if going to be parked for a long time or if need to remove the belts for access to something.
I’m viewer 18,324. I’m considering myself early in the number.
You need a 4 lane highway on top of your mountain. Too tight now.
Looks like the driveway could be getting some more turning space, couple more trees to go?
Nice bus
We are pretty good with 35-40’ coaches. This was our first 45’ turnaround outside the shop. It’s a work in progress
@@BusGreaseMonkey yes she a big Bus indeed 😄
Ok stupid question again, why did the fan only start rotation on the second start?
The radiator was cold the first time. Once it warms up, the fan clutch will engage.
@@billmoran3812 thanks!
when did you have, your last day off GM ?? ya need to have a fork or cup in your hand once in awhile 🔧 - 🥤 - 🍝 Thanx for the shop lessons☺👋
When was the last time the trans fluid and filters were changed? This isn’t something to over look either. Transynd fluid is a must, make sure those filters are OEM and not after market trash.
What about the coolant?
It seems that the buses and some owners of same could use a little wider turning area....just sayin'
They say, provost is one if not the only best buses made? Is this true?
Absolutely, Them and Newell
what happens to all the bad parts you take off the buses ???
All of the metal can be recycled, as well as the used oil for now. Scott was considering an oil heater for the shop, where he could use the old oil.
So what’s your opinion on the new Super Single on the drive axles. The 2017 Prevost H I drive has them. I’m not crazy about them myself. At least with the duels you could at least limp the bus off at the nearest exit. You don’t have that luxury with the super single tires
I ran super singles on a KW truck. Flat tires are rare these days and when you do get a leaker, they have such a huge volume of air in them that it takes forever for them to go flat.
I prefer duals anyday over super singles. Better traction, better water or snow or slush dispersal in extreme conditions, and yes, the ability to limp limited distances on one tire if its mate has failed. Super singles are good at one thing, reducing overall weight, so if you`re one of those carriers who promises their customers that you can carry 48,000 on a tandem configuration, then SS is the way to go, but when push comes to shove, the dual config still reigns supreme.
I much prefer duals over super singles because of bad weather performance. I dove part time back in the 90’s for a company that replaced their entire fleet with KW’s with disc brakes and super singles and didn’t car much for either of them. I drove in the DC Metro area and as long as the road was dry the super singles were great but if it was raining, sleeting, or snowing than that was a different story as for the disc brakes at least back then in heavy traffic the disc brakes did not work as well as drum brakes to me they seemed to suffer brake fade from heat build up when compared to trucks with drum brakes. I think the disc brakes would be fine flat land trucking but driving in heavy traffic or on winding twisting roads with hills they reminded me of driving 1960’s land yachts or trucks with drum brakes that you got a couple of good hard stops and the next time you better just toss out the anchor because the brakes had gone on vacation. The company took it on the chin and dumped almost half of the KW’s with the Super Singles and Disc brakes well before the least on them was up in favor of Mack’s with duals and drum brakes because of accidents by drivers who had perfect driving records and drivers who quite because they hated the KW’s so much.
Next test...a Neoplan Megaliner...( 50 ft. )
45 feet is the longest straight non articulating vehicle that is legal on American roads.
That leak looks like a quick release valve
I have a similar vintage xl with a 60 series with similar air issues. Where in TN are you based?
Hickman county
What is the three way valve? What does it do? How do you know it’s defective? I heard you say the five way valve and the purpose of manually manipulating the air bags to level the coach.
What year? Mileage?
Take it you didn't really plan to have 45's showing up eh? Another 5 feet would be great indeed.
It fit didn’t it?
If it fits, Scott and Tyler works!
I'm pretty sure I saw this bus in VA today. What are the odds?
Scott, Tyler’ you don’t have the part # for the 5 way leveling valve? I need them for my bus
How long is that Prevost? Never mind I see the other comments saying that it is 45' long.
Nice engine bay but it gives strange belt layout.
Do you no if it would be to much weight on a 40 prevost with tag axle to carry a Harley 3 wheel trike. It has a 8v92 engine
I’m not a bus expert but I’d say no problem at all.
Biggest thing is making sure to get the right attachment to the frame. The engine isn’t going to care
How many feet is that one? That's a long ass bus
I'm guessing this isn't a hybrid?
Wow wat apower house motor that 60 is
Leaky wheel seals, airbags, bad shocks. Shredded belts , bad self leveling valves.. yep, a normal day for Bus Grease Monkey
i’m watching the video and I can hear a pulley going off?? Anyway! That’s just me.
Understand it's tight quarters but if you can't maneuver that thing you shouldn't be driving that thing. I think you should have to have a CDL to drive it anyways I have to have one and I got all the same equipment as them motor coaches have.
PROLLY AGREE BUT , C OMMERCIAL D RIVERS LICENSE THESE ARE PRIVATE MOTOR COACHES
8V92 in the bus?
Series 60
"Quick maintenance". 3 weeks later. :)
That bus was here 2.5 days
Okay he's no longer the bus Grease Monkey I'm giving him upgrade 2 bus wizard. The way things are going now what's going to happen with diesel fuel one everybody wants to go all electric the sad sad day.
Takes lots of diesel powered equipment to go electric! Tons of small electric plants powered by natural gas but guess what without diesel powered equipment there would be no natural gas coming to the surface. Diesel engines will be around for many more decades!
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If Prevost is French? Then I really hate it 😠👎
CANADIAN MY FRIEND
You got to start looking at alternative power electric or hydrogen fuel cells, 7 Years Time these diesel buses will be banned from the road already phasing out the gas buses they haven't been out long the quicker you do it the better better for everybody's health and the environment. Have you spoken to them bus manufactured are they planning on doing conversion kits
Rv’s will not be phased out here in the states
I think you're on the wrong channel for that comment
@@nickidewet7711 NO HATERS ALLOWED !