Howard Zinn at MIT 2005 - The Myth of American Exceptionalism
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- Howard Zinn (1922-2010) offers a talk at MIT titled “The Myth of American Exceptionalism,” on March 14, 2005. He is the inaugural lecturer in the series “Myths About America” organized by MIT’s Special Program for Urban and Regional Studies (SPURS), which is hosted at MIT’s Department of Urban Studies and Planning. He is introduced by Bish Sanyal, director of the SPURS/Hubert Humphrey Program.
Howard Zinn is renowned as the author of “A People’s History of the United States” (1980). Historian, playwright and self-described democratic socialist, Zinn was chair of the history and social sciences department at Superman College, and political science professor at Boston University.
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One of my favorite Zinn quotes;
"Patriotism isn't believing in your government. Patriotism is believing in the principles that your government is supposed to uphold"
@PostHawk They conquered Spain just like any Nation did like USA when it "manifested destiny."
@PostHawk the fraud is you playing scholar over the internet
Zinni was a communist and a liar his book on his fake book on history was debunked by other historians this man was evil and he misled many and his book is still misleading many I never knew about him but they I know how the schools are misleading many students and others to take America down the road to communism
@PostHawk being labeled a historian lol, and who the hell is Howard Zin
@PostHawk question, why are you hell bent on commenting on CZcams threads about this? And what are some examples of things he lied about?
In the 1960’s, Viet Nam, and all that , there was an ad on tv “ you can’t have a war if nobody shows up”
“When the people fear their government there is tyranny, when the government fears the people there is liberty” - Thomas Jefferson
Time to ditch this thought. There isn't supposed to be fear, instead trust between govt and people. Because of this thought, America is living on the basis of fear instead of trust.
@@warren5037 Because of this thought? That THOUGHT is why?
...Conveniently not any critique of policy, lack of transparency or accountability in government, the reasonable assumption that personal interests of those in power come above the people as a whole... none of that... conveniently.
Just a thought crime.
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh.
@@nunyabidnis3815 that thought is one of the reasons why so many Americans trust their govt.
By not trusting your govt and its agencies, they are more likely to believe whatever the other party is saying, even if it goes against their interest. People are not willing to work together and any progress is either stopped or slowed down.
With the govt fearing the people, they are reluctant to make any announcements or become more transparent about policy because they fear that people could miscontrue the intentions or become influenced by malicious third parties or disinformation. So the govt, especially the people in it, finds it more worthwhile to pursue their own private goals than accomplishing national or state goals.
Since the govt fears the people, why should the govt work with the people?
If the people fear the govt, why should the people work with govt?
@@warren5037 That bit of 'truism' reminds me of Hempel's paradox.
...And likewise, tries to justify Hobbes' Leviathan? Hard pass. Even in Leviathan, a government that cannot protect it's people still isn't worth defending.. and if it's defense is the greatest cause of danger, then that's a clear conflict of interest.
If the assumption is, because someone criticizing a power structure may be in a position to benefit.. that this is why you cannot listen to criticism at all, and should double down on your faith in the thing being criticized? I mean, are you familiar with the term, "victim blaming?"
Speaking of which, when someone offends and is allowed to get away with it, it emboldens them to re-offend and escalate.. meaning a lack of criticism and oversight encourages worse behavior.
My thought is... if the fears of what-ifs are hypothetical, and the alternative is unacceptable, there's a fault in the rational that picks the alternative.. and that fault can be inspired by paranoia. Like... here's the inverse.. what if the red-scare is the thing enabling the US to be the evil usurping power? lol, Right? That's equally possible here.
One talks about how to disincentivize authoritarianism, the other is red-scaring authoritarians.. Gotta say, I'm reaching a far different conclusion than you have.
@@warren5037 If the people have reason for concern, and cannot know of or voice those concerns, they live ignorant under totalitarian dictatorship, or are delusional uncritical fanatics.
Do you not see a problem with that?
Man, the throwback to the Bush doctrine. I forgot about those discussions I had with EVERYONE concerning the illegal re-invasion of Iraq. Thanks, Dr. Zinn! May you be resting in peace.
Resting in power for sure.
May he be rotting in hell!!! And he most surely is!!!
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Social movements.
Cornel West 2024 ❤
It isn't illegal or immoral to attack bad guys and save millions if not billions of lives. It's ALWAYS a tough call, but POTUS has rights, responsibilities, and is ELECTED to the office. POTUS can't be guilty of crimes other than U.S. Law; only WE THE PEOPLE can be.
Sadam made binding agreements to stay in power after Gulf War. Then he broke them a dozen times. He had been bragging about having WMD. He was also a devout pan-Arabist.
China is hard to deal with but at least they don't hate us. A pan-Arab entity would HATE us, and would definitely prefer to deal with either China and Russia.
If we were too hippie to nip that in the bud early, you could say good-bye to Ukraine, Taiwan, and Israel just for starters.
How was it illegal? The U.S. President is only subject to U.S. Law. POTUS can break treaty agreements and commitments as he sees fit unless they are made U.S. Law by Congress. Some are, some aren't. Not that it was legally necessary but U.S. Congress did pre-approve the war. unanamously except for Obama if memory serves. I was against Iraq 2 but I was young and dumb. I've lived a LOT, seen thing, far more educated, far wiser now. Zinn, Chomsky, etc are GREAT Americans. We would be totally screwed without them. That said, they are only a part of the puzzle that is understanding the Worlds' realities. U.S. power and willingness to use it keeps a whole lot of badness in check. It's OUR job, yours and mine, to keep it honest.
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The hero we need.
Good good good double good
The real MVP right here
Is that why Billions of people want to come here?
Because it's not exceptional?
Apple is not an American company?
Ok Zinn dude, whatever
Us Americans are exceptional at denial.
Nah we know it’s bs, the US has some of the worst voter turnouts for its elections compared to other countries. It’s obvious the revolving door politician-lobbyist-businessman, I just wished they would pave the damn roads more than the occasional decade.
No we're not. 😁
@@charlescook5542 tell that to all the right wing cryptofascist morons in the comment sections
"Us Americans are exceptional at denying" that we are exceptional thanks to the exceptionalism of "superior" people like Christopher Columbus, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.
@Bok Choy holding dual citizenship with Is-fake Israel, no doubt.
Thanks so much for uploading this!
Bish Sanyal, thanks for welcoming me personally for being here x what a wonderful man to reach through 15 years and a whole cosmic web to this moment for me. What a privelege to be in the audience.
The jijivisha is strong
You will be gnashing your teeth in the new dystopia brought to you by traitors like Zinn in the very near future. All you Commie freaks should burn in hell.
@@baldwintheanchorite According to an article, 15 Hindi Words You Can’t Translate Into English, Ever, “Jijivisha means the intense desire to live and to continue living to the fullest in the highest sense of being” (Mukherjee, 2017).
Another way to look at this is this word describes someone who loves their life and has a strong ambition to prosper.
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“I support my country always. I support my government when they deserve it.” ... Twain... Thank you Howard for reminding us, like Twain, to be reasoned critical thinkers. Peace.
When was the last time my government deserved it?
Watch the 3 minute clip
"You have no choice" by
George Carlin.
If I send the link youtube deletes this comment.
So you support criminals? Nice
So an author of one stupid book should determine citizens view of their "government". That's SO stupid. . Go back to your video games, WUS and hiding in your mommy's closet.
@@91dodgespiritrt It is not ONE author, there are millions. American exceptionalism consists
of arrogance and ignorance. And 800 military bases in 120 countries czcams.com/video/QXFProJC5FY/video.html
Go back to your exceptionalism
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When you are convinced you are "chosen people" or exceptional whether by a god or a nation state, you'll have no problem abusing others.
Too bad for you Zin was a communist liar and fabricated most everything he said.
@Dodd Rougeau ..... Try doing some actual research before the real history is completely re written or removed.
If you don't think America is exceptional, you haven't lived outside the United States.
@@aisaxonawiat6484 Why is outside the United States the way it is? Much of it has to do with United States foreign policy....you're the one who needs to research friend. By American's standard of exceptionalism Sweeden, Canada, the Netherlands, etc. are far,far, beyond exceptional.
@@elliegonzales8212 ...... Go live in these places if you think they are better....common sense would dictate that.
I know you have never lived in a Communist country and you do not understand Communist ideology, what life is like there, or their plans.... past, present, or future.
You do not see people fighting to gain entry into any other country on Earth, there is a reason people around the world are willing to risk everything to come to America and there is no more loyal citizen of the United States than those who have lived in a communist country and understand the difference and they are grateful for what it means to live in America.
Communists have almost completely destroyed everything America was intended to be, but God will not be mocked.
Judgment and correction is happening and these communists will not be in power for long.
America has been declared by God to be a land choice above all other lands and whosoever will possess the land will possess it in righteousness or they will be swept off and this is according to the Abrahamic Covenant God made with Abraham and those under the said covenant......
When George Washington took the oath of office, he understood and swore to uphold this covenant on behalf of all people who would possess this land going forward.
What you are witnessing now is a retraction of those blessings of that covenant.
When there is a retraction of blessings, it happens in reverse order in which the blessings were given; the overwhelming majority of people living in America today are completely unaware of this covenant and the consequences for breaking that covenant.
Communism has been in the United States now for over 100 years and their infrastructure is strong and deep and permeates all levels of government, all parties, and all factions of society ….. Especially within the media.
These same people who have commandeered the government are in control of all governments around the world now and they are in the process of establishing a global communist centralized one world government as we speak.
America is ripening for destruction, but that destruction will be poured out upon all nations prior to the return of Christ.
There is much more to it than what I have mentioned here, but it is not reasonable to be able to cover all details in a CZcams post.
@Dodd Rougeau..... I am in agreement with what you say here, that was a good post.
1:32:42 "We have a long way to go". RIP Howard Zinn. A long way to go to solidify social consciousness in the US. It's tough that labor unions have (apparently) lost their strength. Workers should be united no matter what trade, no matter what country they live in.
The elites know the power of unions. That is why the leaders are corrupted as soon as they are elected.
Zinn is a liar.
We don't have that far to go Gibby, now that the Neo-Marxist Biden regime is in power, the United States is the closest it has come to loosing it's sovereignty and freedom since the Civil War, all due to the vile anti-American teachings of this Communist traitor Howard Zinn, that prepped the younger generations of his time for the vile Woke Critical Race nonsense of the current era. *Enjoy your new poverty that is due to a neighborhood near you very very soon.*
Amen 🙏💗
@@godssara6758 Derrrrrp
if only Professor Zinn could see how far we've fallen
It makes me so sad. Right wing grifters and BlueAnon liberals will be the death of this country.
It was a troubled time then! How long ago? What would he think nowadays? Cheech!
"if only Professor Zinn could see how far we've fallen"
Well, considering Zinn has been debunked hundreds of times from actual historians... good.
@@surreal6643 Actual historians such as?
@@oldishandwoke-ish1181 Arthur Schlesinger
, Michael Kammen, Michael Kazin, Sam Wineburg, Oscar Handlin, etc. etc.
He said the US refuses to give up landmines. The US refuses to give up landmines only in the Korean DMZ. The only thing keeping North Korean soldiers from walking into South Korea are about 37,000 troops and about a million landmines.
I wonder what else he gets wrong...
Government: "God help us we can achieve this"
Everyone: "oh boy we are about to be screwed over again".
I believe the US has had landmines in other countries. There is an international organization dedicated to providing prosthetic limbs for current victims, as the landmines still blow up little childrens' legs.
I just looked it up, very unfortunately, the US was not a signatory on the mine ban treaty of 1997. That says something about its probable continued use by the US.
@@molliestanton2869
Korean DMZ is where the US refuses to give up landmines, regardless of what you "believe".
"The US said that it will abide by the terms of the [Ottawa] Treaty, except for landmines on the Korean Peninsula."(Quoted from Wikipedia).
A lot more than his sycophants would admit.
Thank you!
Thank you for posting
It warms the heart to hear such a kind and gentle view.
America is exceptional because it was founded on the belief in individual freedom. No other country has ever been founded on that unique principle. Take care.
@@thetruthaboutscienceandgod6921 Too bad that idea of " individual freedom," didn't apply to the native residents.
@@tombash4329 Hey, tom: You must learn to think critically:
1) The African captives were sold into slavery by other black Africans. No, that does not absolve the U.S. of taking part in slavery. The Civil War did that.
2) The Native Americans were constantly at war with one another. The expansion eventually brought peace throughout the land. Native Americans received reservation land and today many tribes rolling in cash and are laughing all the way to the bank as a result of their right to have casinos on their reservations.
3) It's unfair of you to judge people who lived a hundred or two hundred or three hundred years ago by today's moral standards. In fact, it's quite possible that 50 or 100 years from now, your moral beliefs will be questioned and ridiculed.
4) America is the greatest country on Earth. Just ask the millions of aliens who have been migrating to the U.S. just during the past 19 months. They aren't risking their lives to get to Russia or China or any other country are they?
Think, tom, think. Then, watch my two brief videos to learn more about Science and God.
Take care.
@@tombash4329 Hey, tom: You must learn to think critically:
1) The African captives were sold into slavery by other black Africans. No, that does not absolve the U.S. of taking part in slavery. The Civil War did that.
2) The Native Americans were constantly at war with one another. The expansion eventually brought peace throughout the land. Native Americans received reservation land and today many tribes rolling in cash and are laughing all the way to the bank as a result of their right to have casinos on their reservations.
3) It's unfair of you to judge people who lived a hundred or two hundred or three hundred years ago by today's moral standards. In fact, it's quite possible that 50 or 100 years from now, your moral beliefs will be questioned and ridiculed.
4) America is the greatest country on Earth. Just ask the millions of aliens who have been migrating to the U.S. just during the past 19 months. They aren't risking their lives to get to Russia or China or any other country are they?
Think, tom, think. Then, watch my two brief videos to learn more about Science and God.
Take care.
@@molliestanton2869 Hey, Mollie You must learn to think critically:
1) The African captives were sold into slavery by other black Africans. No, that does not absolve the U.S. of taking part in slavery. The Civil War did that.
2) The Native Americans were constantly at war with one another. The expansion eventually brought peace throughout the land. Native Americans received reservation land and today many tribes rolling in cash and are laughing all the way to the bank as a result of their right to have casinos on their reservations.
3) It's unfair of you to judge people who lived a hundred or two hundred or three hundred years ago by today's moral standards. In fact, it's quite possible that 50 or 100 years from now, your moral beliefs will be questioned and ridiculed.
4) America is the greatest country on Earth. Just ask the millions of aliens who have been migrating to the U.S. just during the past 19 months. They aren't risking their lives to get to Russia or China or any other country are they?
Think, tom, think. Then, watch my two brief videos to learn more about Science and God.
Take care.
Thank you.
“Some day if a country so gifted will suddenly experience a disaster that no one can explain...”. Like Covid perhaps
@LowEnergyBoomer
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that "Covid" is affecting the whole world if you haven't noticed
Like January 6, 2021
COVID isn’t even close. True shared suffering.
History has taught us that in time all empires fall
True, but the USA didn't last as long as the Greeks or Romans.
Absolutely. This one is young but it's falling hard and fast. It was sold out by those who were supposed to "serve and protect."
History also continues tto repeat itself.
@@Lea-rb9nc China won't have a reign, humans will be dead before 2100 even happens
@Thomas Tomei II in what way is USA great?
Why does this audience assume that countries that see each other as equals, don't fight?
That ignores most of the history of humanity.
Why is everyone silent that constitution of USA was written only for white people and that it is constitutional republic not democracy
@@MrSp0iler Say that again for the slow and sleepy!
Maybe it's referring to the nuclear era
It has more to do with perceived adversaries from each countries defense & national security apparatuses. They’ll always seeking a ‘boogie man.’ They can’t seek any one country as it’s equivalent & even if that was possible they would exaggerate as in the case of the former Soviet Union where US did so to exert more pressure on Congress for its military industrial complex even when relative peace & stability was present.
@@SherwinChow-cg3nw As 1 speaker said, aboriginal roots.
“The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. Because they control the minds of the masses.” -Malcolm X
"Show me the man and I'll find you the crime.".Head of Stalins Head Secret Chief of Police." Lavrentiy Breia. Reminds me of Adam Schiff.
@@garypendergraft1398 Schiff said, Trump's attacks on US elections would continue. Who didn't see fascists with Nazi & Confederate flags chanting, "Jews will not replace us" and "Heil Trump" before his attack on the Capitol? Who bragged he could shoot somebody and not lose a vote, repeatedly promised he'd accept election results only if he won and that he'd bring back torture? Whose answer to, When was America great? is under slavery?
@Juice - The Satanic Self-Proclaimed Chosen Tribei totally agree
My country is the world, my religion is to do good, all mankid are my bretheren.
Thomas Paine
Thomas Paine was a wacko -- he was so pleased to see the French Revolution until they threw him in prison, and he missed being guillotined by dumb luck, as the crazy radical left always eats its own. The American Revolution was conservative at heart, and intended to preserve natural liberties against tyrannical government. Howard Zinn is one of those that is blind to the that fact is only too happy to tear down the exact institutions that are protecting his liberty to spout off his nonsense.
@@graterdeddly9527 you understand in the american revolution we fought against the tories right The Conservative Party, officially the Conservative and Unionist Party, and also known colloquially as the Tories, Tory Party, or simply the Conservatives, is a political party in the United Kingdom. Ideologically, the Conservatives sit on the centre-right of the political spectrum.
@@randyg2803 I'm talking about "small c" conservative -- they were fighting for long standing rights associated with the Common Law, ones that they felt had been violated by a tyrannical King. That would be somewhat like Hobbes v. Locke -- once where the monarch can do as he likes as long as he does not threaten one's life (Hobbes) versus the monarch violating basic "endowed by our creator" rights. That's an essentially conservative idea, not revolution for the sake of overturning the existing establishment -- one can have a conservative revolution, it just depends on whether what is being overturned (such as an radical leftist regime), and what is being put in its place, like one that observes long held and established rights (American Republic). The Whigs were out of power during most of the Revolution, but they were in a coalition by the time of the Peace of Paris at the end (1783), and the PM was a former Whig -- but 1770s British domestic politics is not what I'm talking about.
Gotta love it.
"A beLIEf is not knowledge, Only truth is the way to gain knowledge"
Plato
A person must believe the truth...there is no other way for anything to enter the human consciousness except they first BELIEVE that it's true. This btw is the foundation of Christianity ...Jesus said " I Am the way , The TRUTH and the Life", and those who have experienced his presence believe that he is THE TRUTH. All Truth is God's Truth .
@@markanthony3275 damn, how are you a theist in 2021?
@@Redactedlllllllllllll Because I have an advantage over anyone who does not believe that Jesus was exactly who the Bible said he was...and that advantage is called prophecy . One aspect of the Bible's prophetic predictions describes how Israel will once again become a nation after it's total destruction in 70A.D. ...have you looked at a map of the middle east and seen a tiny nation called Israel ? Well it wasn't there before April 1948. Another description of what takes place has to do with the rise of "Global Consciousness" , this is the idea that people will have in their minds that they don't need God because they can all join together, solve their own problems and create their own reality ...and this is exactly what Zinn and others like him are trying to do right now .They are in rebellion against God's design for sexuality , God's design for family, God's design for a just and merciful society, and they will replace it with a counterfeit that will deceive everybody . The end result , the Bible says , is that God will judge the world for it's evil in turning against his designs , and over a half of the world's people will die through the judgements God sends upon them in a seven year period . Some of those judgements are , burning of a third of all trees , poisoning of drinking water , strange creatures that sting like scorpions , the sun darkened and not giving it's full light, the cessation of all wind , famine , economic collapse , people butchering each other in the streets...others eaten by wild animals as they try to flee the cities and hide in the countryside...100 pound hailstones falling . The Bible says that a slick , smooth talking world leader will arise , and will have miraculous powers so that people will actually worship him because he appears to have the answer to the world's problems . This world leader will be arrogant , and will force everyone to take his mark of ownership on their right hand or forehead, without which they will be prevented from participating in the economic system ( not allowed to buy or sell anything)...the Bible calls that world leader "the man of lawlessness" and " the man of sin" or " the anti-christ ". No doubt you've heard of this , but through pop-culture which doesn't explain who this person really is and how they will all be deceived by him. I call him "the final Hitler " because in many ways he will do exactly what Hitler did...including signing a peace treaty with Israel, and then attacking them and slaughtering half of them right in Israel. Now is the time that God is preparing America and the world for judgement. He allowed Donald Trump to be elected so that the enemies of God would become enraged and start putting in place the evil that they will be judged for. Joe Biden is preparing America and the world for that judgement by continually supporting everything that is ungodly , abortion, LGBT sexuality , giving the "weeds" in society the power to accuse "the vegetables" of corrupting the garden. Judgement is coming, the signs are all there.
@@Redactedlllllllllllll Being an atheist requires more faith than being a theist. St. Anselm and others gave several proofs for the existence of God. Where is your proof that there isn't a God?
@Michael Hayes I can prove that the square root of 2 isn't a rational number. Show me a proof that God doesn't exist. The burden of proof can work this. Did you have a strong or weak father?
As I prepare to surrender a book I have held on to for a long long time because its a library book, I do so glad to have read it and glad that it provides me with an understanding of what Mr. Zinn continues to touch upon. That book is GUNFIGHTER NATION. Its rather lengthy it by a man named R. SLOTKIN.
Dick Gregory's "No More Lies" is not to be missed either.
@@TranscendianIntendor
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History, we are in it now!!!
it worries me that so many well educated, well connected people can be so ready to use violence and follow such an erratic leader. Not the first time in world history but i did not expect to see it in USA.
it just goes to show you that anything is possible even the overthrow of democracy
👋🏿 i did, the country was founded by psychopaths and enslaved millions of people for 400 years not to have been
@@h.Freeman that's a lie.
@@2121beastmode what's a lie? Slavery? Only a psychopath would enslave another human and all of the early presidents enslaved people. And not only did it hey enslave people but they brutalized them.
@@2121beastmode it's not a lie he's telling the truth you just don't want to hear it.
this man is another reason why, I as an Iranian love the american people. - Never, ever is too late to CHANGE:
with kind regards to MIT from the good Ol' Vienna,.-)
This man is one in a million. That will never do.
my pleasure. god bless america
@@wnklee6878 That's ONE too many. Hopefully, Satan claims him back very soon.
Zinn is cancer to our nation.
@@raeliera why would you say that?
John Quincy Adams said; "These policies towards the Native people of this land are the most heinous sins of this nation for which I believe God Almighty will bring it to Judgement. I hope my blunt stance might just hapless aide The Natives, which we are exterminating with such merciless and perfidies cruelty" - but his statement had no effect to the ongoing ruthlessness.... Invented weapons of mass destruction by the US named after liquidated Native Tribes: Black Hawk, Grey Eagle, Apache, Comanche, The Kiowa, The Lakota, The Chinook, and Tomahawk cruise missiles.. "This is the equivalency of the Nazis calling their V1 and V2 rockets, Jews and Gypsies" -Noam Chomsky
@PostHawk Both the Nazis and Americans committed genocide against these groups. What was done to the Native Americans was 100% a genocide
@PostHawk horse shit
@PostHawk stupidity from a member of the anti'-American trinity: Gore Vidal, Howard Zinn, and Noam Chomsky.
@@brennonguilbeau569 yes... they’re certainly not the pantheon of intelligence like hannity, Trump and tucker. Go ‘F’ yourself !! I’m surprised you and post hawk don’t claim giving the Jews a shower is not genocide
@@JaketheMCmaster Americans and Nazis have nothing in common.
Thank you for history lesson
I wish I had been smart enough to have attended such a prestigious institutions... where men like this one speak... thank God for internet...
It's interesting to note that those criticizing "The United States" are those pieces of trash who are "inferior" to - and who do not look like - the patriotic "exceptional" Anglo Christian founding fathers that founded built and created "The United States".
If you understand this you were smart enough but just did not have the opportunity. And that is why so many who are brilliant are wasted by our society.
Most students who graduated "prestigious" schools are those Brain Washed by Narcissistic parents. Just Cognitive Dissonance that their offspring are not bright enough to figure out.
learn some grammar
@Titus Tiger The world according to my view. please call them and let them know about my posts. HA, HA
Wonderful initiative aimed at crossfertization of many different ideas about America prevailing among intellectuals across the world. The discussions are exceedingly illuminating.
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"You can't be neutral on a moving train" Howard Zinn
One of my favorite quotes
So that's where System of a Down got that line...
I was expecting him to be much more knowledgeable. E.G., the founding fathers believe in natural law, which states that men were imbued by God with unalienable rights. How did Howard Zinn, an American Historian, not know this basic fact?
@@laniefeleski7288 Because Howard Zinn was a Communist propagandist who indoctrinated a large portion of American youth during his era of disinformation. A precursor to the 1619 Project insanity, and the Woke Critical Race Theory blather and the people who don't even know what a woman is anymore. Like the new Supreme Court Justice...
*God save America from these insane traitors!*
@@tombash4329 many of them did believe it. They wrote about the moral conflict in their journals. Slavery was tradition since mankind's beginning. They were the first ones to end it.
So ill informed.
@@tombash4329 All of those are factual statements. lol. Are you okay?
I was a student of Howard Zinn at BU in the early 1980s and even served him as an informal intern (informal since BU President "Herr Docktor" Sibler refused to fund student interns for him). He was an inspiring teacher and a straight wonderful guy to be around, very friendly, with a wicked sense of humor. You could always count on Prof Zinn to support any just cause, from anti-war protests to labor strikes. Long live his memory.
How To Distinguish a Warning Shot From a Shot? - the warning shot is the one that misses; there may or may not be some pause thereafter.
Even in his eighties Howard Zinn remains astonished at human nature.
Horrified is probably a better word... He must have been horrified...
Even in his eighties he held tight to his ignorance. I am not impressed.
@@rolandrodriguez3854 The history of US murder worldwide was exposed because of great men like him. No one really cares you are unimpressed.
Mark Rymanowski why are you so concerned with his private life as if to excoriate Professor Zinn for what he mentioned.
@@PK-re3lu I care so that makes your immature and arrogant assumption null and void.
So ... the dude is a real hero! Dropped bombs over the Nazis and keeps dropping bombs over those who thing they're the superior ones!!! A true hero in war and peace!!!
He would strongly disagree. According to him, he did not drop bombs on nazis but on German civilians. He participated in the fire bombing of Dresden. Zinn was a truly great man though. Read his work. Its beautiful and devastating
Thank u.
Shared this.
As a young man, I believed the bit about weapons of mass destruction. They even paraded "proof" at the UN-- by none other than Colin Powell. We need people like Mr. Zinn.
Mr. Zinn has been loved by millions, and we have other examples such as writers of history and independent journalists.
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Another great American myth: That the U.S. can’t afford healthcare similar to Canada.
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not a myth, they proof it day after day. Not only Canada but ALL civilized countries
@@mc-lb9dk yep
There’s like 33 developed countries and all but the US and maybe one more who doesn’t have medical for their citizens. Israel has medical, and college, plus state funded abortion (no one says anything about that). We gave them
over $9 billion from January of last year to January of this year. We can give 100’s of billions to corporations, some failing because of bad business practices, and a tax cut down to 21% for the wealthy and corporations. There was almost 100 companies who had a 0% tax rate or below in 2020. They’re cutting all the social programs and would love to cut Social Security or do away with it all together. Next we have a military budget as much as the next 10 countries, we’re also $21 trillion in debt and our Federal Reserve is printing trillions. So with all this, it’s not a myth.
Healthcare in the US is for profit not a human right. Greed in my country is on steroids. It will be our downfall. Brought down by 1% of some greedy elites.
@@Cookie-ri9pz US = human greed. not only healthcare. the latter is just internal greed. The global greed of the usa is way bigger.
Whatever the religious, economic, social ism, the human condition remains the same. Have a nice day.
"The West, led by the Americans believe they have been entrusted by God to decide the fate of other people. the US prefers not to be guided by International Law but by the rule of the gun. They have come to believe in their own exceptionalism, believing that they can decide the destiny of the world and that only they can ever be right" -Putin
Best comment of all
Ty brotha Ray..
True words coming from an evil Guy doing the same thing.
@@muktyleo it's best to be self aware of what you are doing so that so you can stop or at least mitigate it when it starts to become self destructive.
Wow, Zinn and Purina share the same opinion of America. What a shock! 🙄
What's the difference between God and a politician? God knows he is not a politician.
Exceptional lecture
History is the examination of sorrows.
Well said. As far as l am concerned having fought all my life as a Marxist left from Europe, l came to the conclusion that history is the detailing of the dirty washing of mankind. No detergent can clean the blood stain on every page on the history of mankind.
True, history is full of sorrow.. if only we can learn from history to prevent further sorrow.
@@patriceortovent6451 The hundreds of millions killed by marxist regimes would find your reference to history's "dirty washing" ironic.
@@henk7747 Marx's bull schiff "philosophy" has inspired regimes responsible for the murder of millions.
God protect children, drunkards and Americans, Bismarck once said.
It seems God got tired ... or his spent after taking care of Brazilians.
Only once?
They dont even understand they are constitutional republic not democracy
Walli Stag He should have been more worried about Germany.
@@NomenFugazi He did, germans prospered and were strong. Until banks were forced to finance production instead of leeching off money in Germany and then ww1 and ww2 was started. Even today national socialists are demonized by animals that call themselves humans.
"I read some Howard Zinn now I'm always depressed" - NOFX
Don't watch any of Chris Hedges' speeches then. He is on a whole other level of Doomsaying.
@@Hanfgurkenhasser iI's a song quotation from the band NOFX
@PostHawk we believe it cuz our brains are opened. Unlike you that have been brainwashed by the same thing we criticize
@PostHawk ...and then we did the same shit. The idea of, 'X deserved bad things to happen by us, because they did bad things, too...' is the same justification anyone could use to do bad things to us, then. Right? Yet, even a critique of the bad we do is what, beyond the pale? How... just how.
@PostHawk While the west came to end it's slavery, it was also a massive national industry. Characterizing it's role in slavery as irrelevant, forgivable, understandable is every bit as wrong.
I think maybe some wires are getting crossed.. because calling the west out on it's practices of slavery and later apartheid, or even how that impacts the national infrastructure today, is not saying they 'started it' or were the only ones at fault.
At 40:55 when Professor Zinn was talking about how Bush was being viewed as a departure from the system it immediately brought to mind the media discourse around trump
Except Trump is a grifter bum
Awesome indeed
Wonderful lecture. tThank you Howard Zinn. You are missed.
"Yeah....we tortured some folks..." Barack Obama
He meant those that were ready to behead, burn alive and mass murder. Hussein, of course, omitted that. Stupid man - poured a lot of gasoline on the whole of Mid East by giving Iran 100 bill.
@Robin Yu You are either against torture or you're not. Being ok with torture of people you hate is simply being ok with torture. Just like rape it is never ok. It is never ok for it to happen to anyone and it is never ok to make/let anyone do it.
@Robin Yu Are you also ok with rape if it could save lives? And what kind of torture? Waterboarding? Pulling fingernails? Maiming? Torturing loved ones to get confessions from a spouse/father/etc? Being pro-torture is being anti-humanist and anti-rule of law. And I might be wrong but I just assume you mean it only applies to non-americans and is not applicable ithin the american legal system.
Robin Yu how about if they tortured you? Appears you have no idea of what it entails!
Question: "What is THE NEW WORLD ORDER?"
Answer: "WHAT WE SAY GOES"!, George H. W. Bush, before invasion of Iraq (Persian Gulf War).
Was Dr. Zinn chair of the history and social sciences department at Superman College, or Spellman College...?
Truth finally arrives
The guy at the beginning may be going bald but he's going to make DAMN sure the hair he has left is _luscious_
I really liked the questions at the end, especially starting 1:17:12.
Brits were “forced” to? They modernized the world not once did he mention US being Israel’s proxy attack dog used and abused.
This was fantastic
This just begins a journey down the rabbit hole.
The thing that foreigners (especially from Western countries) to America notice immediately is the size of its supermarkets. It's impressive. But I'm pretty sure none of them would trade it for their universal health care.
As if it is totally impossible to have both? or more for that matter.
@@breadfan1071 we don't need supermarkets that big in England. It would be a waste of space; there just aren't enough people in the country.
Thanks Professor! Good learning time!
LOL. Zinn cherry picks "facts" that fit his thesis.
@Space Monkey then no other " empire " did towards another what the United States accomplished. Still the hope is what happened to the Japanese people that cultures that threatened humanity as well as their own population can change quickly to embrace freedom.
Brilliant human beings
Grew up 60 miles from Boston. All news to me. I inferred from context in boy scouts.
I wonder how many people in the Filipino Assembly knew that America had fought against and committed genocide against the Philippines. While in the Philippines last year, I decided to ask random people if they where aware of the US vs. Philippines War. None had been aware that such a war ever existed. They seemed to know no history before WWII.
Whitewash history was commissioned all over the world during colonialism and present day imperialism. From personal experience, It'll be the elders that usually have more connection to the older history, and younger generation are propagandized globally.
Zinn books are the best to understand why USA thinks its owner of the world, first example was the war that stole half of Mexico. texas, Arizona, New Mexico, California
Typical human arrogance that transcends all time. It will never end. The known, the unknown, and the unknowable
Moron, please understand American History. The Mexicans wanted the US to help it fight for its independence against Spain. Many of them wanted to join the US. In fact, the Mexican government actually paid Americans to settle in the territory now known as Texas - south of the Rio Grande. .THE LAND WASN'T STOLEN AT ALL.
Zinn is a "fake news" spreading lying bastard - just like the rest of his traitorous tribe of greedy perverts.
You’re right. We should give it back to the Conquistadors to whom it rightfully belongs.
@@91dodgespiritrt Your comment is ridiculous and ahistorical.
6:35 Program begins.
Who in our world could actually "Replace" Howard Zinn? So Sad.
When Winthrop used the phrase "city on a hill", he was telling his followers that they must behave morally at all times and live up to their moral standards because the world was watching and could see the colony as clearly as if it were a city on a hill. He did not say that it was a shining city on a hill. He merely said that everyone in England was watching.
General Winthrop led a group of Puritans and Pilgrim Fathers who wished to escape persecution in the UK. In the UK. The Anglican Church ruled and it insisted Gods representative on Planet Earth was the King or Queen of England. The Church was debauched and immoral and excessively taxed everybody to pay for their lifestyle. General Winthrop rejected this. Equally objectionable was The Catholic Church which taught Papal Infallibility and the final and absolute authority of the Pope in Rome.
Greetings from UK.
What was Cotton Mathers about? The gospel of divine enlightenment? Something like it ..found in wikipedia 'secularism is the realization, of the Kingdom of God on Earth' .. Whoa ...
The idiots who mention "bone spurs" are also the same idiots who supposedly abhor war. They can't can't have it both ways. But at least they can always try. HA!
this globalist cares nothing about truth
@@Patriot11111 Your state is ruled by corporate globalists. Or do you call them "job creators"?
Powerful words, especially when he gave this speech. We should try our best to never forget the travesties of the war on terror.
Which will never end
@@pitchforkpeasant6219 For as long as Is-fake Israel exists.
@@91dodgespiritrt "For as long as Is-fake Israel exists."
Israel existed thousands of years before Palestine was even a thought. If you believe Indians should be the only population of America, then you should believe in Israel.
@@surreal6643 Indians should be the only populations of both north and south America . As for Israel ,Muslins and Jews were living side by side very well for hundreds of years until the creation of the sionism movement , in the wave of the European colonization of Africa and the Middle East , that brought huge suffering till now for all the native population .
@@liegesaboya8265 "Muslins and Jews were living side by side very well for hundreds of years until the creation of the sionism movement , in the wave of the European colonization of Africa and the Middle East , that brought huge suffering till now for all the native population ."
False. Islam was founded in 610 AD. In 624, Mohammed started attacking and by 632 in which they have conquered the bulk of western Arabia and Palestine. Jews could not own weapons, they could not ride on horseback, they couldn't build buildings, and had to bow to their muslim masters when they paid their taxes.
The entire thing you wrote was false. 100% verifiably false. Which means you lied. Willingly.
If you believe "Indians should be the only populations of both north and south America ."
Then that means Muslims should never attack Israel and should leave Israel as it was called Israel 10,000 years before Muslim was a religion.
I saw Him give a Speech at My University..."RADFORD" AWESOME!..TKQ
@MIT Video Productions SPELMAN COLLEGE! Not Superman College! I hope that’s an autocorrect mistake! 😂
The Dresden bombing produced at least two shellshocked GI thinkers--Vonnegut and Zinn, and they demonstrate that there are two ways to deal with grotesque insanity that war makes apparent, further insanity, albeit cartoonishly softened for bestseller consumption a la Vonnegut, or a bitter sifting through rubble for something less ugly.
Dunce Scotus +
Much better than the tripe you've spewed here.
I didn’t find Vonnegut (and especially S5) to be softened in anyway. Vonnegut showed how empty and meaningless concepts like patriotism and justice really are.
@@haroldfloyd5518 Fair enough, but sublimated by dark atheistic humor a la Mark Twain. Hopeless humor.
Zinn, as a Jew, at least tried to find some ethical conclusions, and did a darn good job with "The People's History of the United States" in tracing the untold history of the losers.
I'm a vet too, so I'm sympathetic. But I've seen the faithfulness of Jesus Christ, so I'm coming from what I think is a far superior perspective, the Christian one. But that's how I see it.
It's not as though all of this war and stuff isn't foretold.
Patriotism, not meaningless, only idolatrous.
Justice, not meaningless, only hypocritical.
Meaningless?
Nothing that I can think of.
Thankyou scoutus, for the information. Very worthwhile.
@@philgwellington6036 Thank YOU for that thank you.
I want to see "The Myth of *MIT* Exceptionalism"! 🤣🤣🤣
Look no further than Silicon Valley.
Indeed the truth about its connection to Jeffery Epstein's island, and all of it's staffs connections to it. Well done and good form.
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Hermano, no le intiendo? What are you saying?
Howard: you wrote worthless twaddle.
Anyone know the date of this lecture? 2006 or so?
This lecture is timeless - given how prescient it is today with the Ukraine/Russian proxy war.
Zinn is brilliant!
Yes, he is.
When a deity is the source of governmental power, then anything can be both justified and justifiable. This is, to paraphrase Jane Austen, a truth universally acknowledged, and acted upon.
Deity is not the source of governmental power. Deity is the source of the rights that the gov has no business in. The gov caused the problems we face by taking over and obliterating community and family.
@@mrscavayeah7453 Not true. The First Amendment delineates the rights, held by citizens, in which the government has no business - the “THEY shalt nots” of the Bill of Rights, “they” being the government. Popular myth would have it that ours is a government founded upon the myth of judeochristian values - the “judeo” part being there as a token nod - whereas in reality the American government was set up to be secular in nature. Community and family have both got in the condition they’re in because of the control that the strictures of religion - the “THOU shalt nots” - place upon relationships between and among people in those communities and families. The process of “Othering” is totally within the sphere of commands supposedly issued by deity through “holy” writ - of dubious supernatural construct - not the rights, instituted among Men, actually delineated by our founding instruction manual - an actual document.
@@Hollis_has_questions "Not true. The First Amendment delineates the rights, held by citizens, in which the government has no business - the “THEY shalt nots” of the Bill of Rights, “they” being the government."
True.
"Popular myth would have it that ours is a government founded upon the myth of judeochristian values - the “judeo” part being there as a token nod - whereas in reality the American government was set up to be secular in nature."
Still with you.
"Community and family have both got in the condition they’re in because of the control that the strictures of religion - the “THOU shalt nots” - place upon relationships between and among people in those communities and families."
Here is where you lost me. The control and structures of religion have no bearing on family values. The entire structure of almost all religion is a church. A church is part of a community... not a family. So now you have to prove that Judeo-Christian values caused the problem of the community... which you did NOT do. You just generalized that it happened without stating a reason of why you believe that.
"The process of “Othering” is totally within the sphere of commands supposedly issued by deity through “holy” writ - of dubious supernatural construct - not the rights, instituted among Men, actually delineated by our founding instruction manual - an actual document.""
Othering is again a community thing which has nothing to do with family... which also has nothing to do with the post of which you are replying. It's just static sounds to confuse the argument that the government did indeed cause the problems by obliterating community and family by trying to state that "othering" is a thing of holy writ... which it was a human condition... not a religious condition.
If the state is the sorce of your rights then the state can take them away. People who emphasize your rights come from God emphasize that they are yours and cannot be taken away.
@@mikimeadows … Except by gods, through the mouths of those who claim to speak for the deities.
For an expanded and more thorough discussion on the history of US imperialism and a deconstruction of such concepts as terrorism, American exceptionalism or the Cold War, see Robert Buzzanco's lecture series "war, globalization and terror"
The Best and Greatest Humans are those that Look at Themselves Honestly in the Mirror and Know Who and What they Really are. Their Faults, their Past and Present, and Strive to be Good.
22:24 "not all historians will admit the things they tell you may not be true
including the sounds spouted by this prolific atonal composer of Operas containing disharmonious contrapuntal dissonance and tasteless staging.
@@boazklachkin4177 Cap'n Turbot vibes,..
He said that because he knows he was lying.
thank you Howard 🙏🏽
Brilliant man. what a career.
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As a bald man, I cannot help but notice how the introducer is rocking that horseshoe. It's wild and out there. Gotta love that confidence
Finally, we meet Christopher Walken's father!
Genius 🤣
Severely underrated comment
😂 LOL,Bravo!
Grow up.
nobody owns anything in life, including land. we only use things, so long as we can protect it from others.
That's sir is the thinking of a thief.
It's a pity we can't just all get along and help one another. I feel like that would actually be easier than killing each other and being assholes.
@@sasjahuntelaar5755 And yours is the brainwashed thinking of a leftist victim who can't think for herself.
@Bok Choy so what your saying is that the "police" give you the right of ownership???....hahaha
@Bok Choy maybe you should read what i said again then 🧐
THANK YOU FOR THIS TRUTH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Zinn was an anti-American Communist propagaandist
Good sense
FYI, Zinn talk begins at 6:25 minute mark
Resistance didn't end the British Empire.
Bankruptcy did.
Just like it will for the US Empire.
@@gfarrell80 It took a couple of world wars and complete domestic economic devastation to get the British down.
If the wars get that bad these days, I'm not hopeful that the rest of the world will be in any shape to react, either to celebrate or mourn.
Ridicule ends all leaders, and all empires. The moment that pinpoints the fall of the British Empire can be pinpointed to the Suez Canal Crisis in 1956. London assumed Washington would back them for the sake of their Israeli alliance and to expose the muslim brotherhood nationalisation of the main strategic asset of the Empire (The Suez Canal). This islamic "attack" was a sort of English 9/11, and it was at the height of the Cold War with the Soviets. From this point forward, The Empire went into military and economic decline, eagerly assisted at every opportunity by a cohort of marxist infiltraitors in The House Of Commons and elsewhere through the Empire itself. The playbook was so successful marxists in the USA made similar infiltration over the following decades and this peaked in 2008 with the election of Obama...
@@abovethefog1016 British Empire falls in 1956? That is pretty optimistic. The torch of empire IMHO was handed off from the British to the Americans in 1918. Cracks were showing in the British Empire well before 1956. Heck, India went independent in 1947.
@@abovethefog1016 There was a Roman senator, whose name escapes me at the moment, who made a name for himself making sarcastic speeches at one or other of the Julian line of emperors, after it became illegal to directly criticize the Princeps.
He was executed. For the life of me, I can't remember his name.
Strenuously caring to his end
Love ❤️ Remember Howard Zinn
American exceptionalism is a European-born critique of the United States of America that the country sees its history as inherently different from that of other nations,[2] stemming from its emergence from the American Revolution, becoming what the political scientist Seymour Martin Lipset called "the first new nation"[3] and developing a uniquely American ideology, "Americanism", based on liberty, equality before the law, individual responsibility, republicanism, representative democracy, and laissez-faire economics. This ideology itself is often referred to as "American exceptionalism."[4] Second is the idea that America has a unique mission to transform the world[according to whom?]. President Abraham Lincoln stated in the Gettysburg address (1863) during the American Civil War, in reference to the preservation of the United States itself, Americans have a duty to ensure, "government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth." Third is the sense that America's history and its mission give it a superiority over other nations.[citation needed]
The theory of the exceptionalism of the U.S. has developed over time and can be traced to many sources. French political scientist and historian Alexis de Tocqueville was the first writer to describe the country as "exceptional" in 1831 and 1840.[5] The actual phrase "American exceptionalism" was originally coined by the Soviet leader Joseph Stalin in 1929 as a critique of a revisionist faction of American communists that argued that the American political climate was unique and made it an 'exception' to certain elements of Marxist theory.[6] U.S. president Ronald Reagan is often credited with having crystallized that ideology in recent decades.[6]
Political scientist Eldon Eisenach argues that American exceptionalism in the 21st century has come under attack from the postmodern left as a reactionary myth: "The absence of shared purpose is ratified in the larger sphere of liberal-progressive public philosophy. [...] Beginning with the assumption of American exceptionalism as a reactionary myth".[7]
Is the lack of citation of Manifest Destiny an accidental oversight or it’s not factored in the equation?
American Exceptionalism is alive and well. Unless you believe in the sickening ideologies of marxism progressivism socialism and communism. All have proven not to work. Individual liberties and responsibility not the collective
Prof. Zinn starts speaking at 6:40.
Gosh thanks!
He knows the truth
@@ACKZink A person can rebut this with 11 words. "Why do people from around the world want to come here?
@@RobRock-qr3hp In honestly have no clue. They probably hear the same false American exceptionalism stories we were taught k-12
@@RobRock-qr3hp You need to look at that question through a lens of materialism and through a lens of propaganda.
Materially the US still has the worlds most powerful consumer economy. Much of this has been accomplished through the exploitation of american and international workers alike. Still the fruits of that exploitation can offer many people a comfort, particularly if you're escaping a place of poverty and/or conflict.
Through propaganda we can see that we often and intensively market the notion of the "american dream" and our own "exceptionalism." It's become somewhat of an international lore and many people who come here do actually find themselves in a better place materially.
None of this excuses the atrocities America has committed at home and across the globe. Although we have much to offer, much of that has come at the expense of the world's "have-not's."
The goals of the United States as a country and a government are working by the ideas outlined in Hamilton's Federalist 10. It's the reason why even the most passionate and radical among us feel like we can't create any serious change without the constant barriers that the government creates slowing it down to near-stagnation.
Madison
Thank you for a compelling lecture, " My country men are mankind", the BEST of HUMANITY.
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Howard was 83 when he gave this lecture. Born in '22.
Amazing to be so vibrant and look so good at 83.
@@siberiantiger3917 Evil never retires. Witness Nancy Pelosi.
Yes and his rambling sophomoric take on everything demonstrated that he was just as superficial a communist propagandist as ever.
"Zinn reduces the past to a Manichean fable," whose failure to explain adequately why most Americans accepted the legitimacy of the capitalist republic "is grounded in a premise better suited to a conspiracy-monger's Web site than to a work of scholarship." - Michael Kazin, Professor in the Department of History, Georgetown University.
@@focusfrost9856 LOL; never heard of that guy. But everyone has heard of Howard Zinn.
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@6:32 - end of sidehair guy
Brilliant
Evil gonna evil.
MIT they are very smart there!
It sounds as though Howard is talking about New Zealand. I've found the lack of honesty of the population of a place is primarily caused by a great insecurity and inferiority complex. This was Aotearoa New Zealand and to a large extent is still present but morphing to something else. I would go further in that the morphing process involves much of Aotearoa's population burying their heads (deep) in the sand. It's now preventing the country from taking practical steps to address the climate chaos and ecosystem collapse in New Zealand. btw check out "How to Hide An Empire" by Daniel Immerwahr for background reading on all Howard talks about. Thank you Howard Zinn a valuable talk
global cooling?
global warming?
climate change?
now climate chaos?
what hoax is next?
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Right on the money about New Zealanders they have about as much idea as alot of Trump / Biden supporters or half the population of America.
I am one by the way been one for 60 years.
"I've found the lack of honesty of the population of a place is primarily caused by a great insecurity and inferiority complex." We may separate here i feel.
You could just as easily say "I've found the lack of honesty of the population of a place is primarily caused by............ ignorant blind flag waving patriotism.