I run P320 X5 Legion and the P320 Spectre Comp, a few thousand rounds a month between the two (I'm a firearms instructor and a competitive shooter). 0 issues so far.
I've seen a handfull videos of people have issue with the fuse. I was worried when I bought my fuse. But I had ZERO failures after shooting over 700 rounds so far. I've shot at least 500+ rounds of 115gr FMJ, 2 boxes of 124gr JHP, 2 boxes of 147gr JHP. The gun shoots awesome. I'm extremely glad with my purchase.
@@mike34744 That's great to hear! I commented elsewhere, but as a guy crossing over from Glock for the first time to anything but a Glock.. it's good to know its working out.
I have had the Xmacro Tacops since December 2023 and I have not had a single failure yet. I have probably shot between 2000 and 3000 rounds and I only cleaned it once. I want to like this new one but you are right, there are other CZcamsrs complaining about the same thing, this is deeply concerning.
P365 fuse, dang sig, what'd you fuse it with, an MC9 (mine still doesn't run). LOL. Hopefully the turnaround on the repair isn't long. I'm actually looking forward to this one.
Non-stop failures? You're doing it wrong lol no, I'm sorry to hear that. I picked mine up last Saturday. Added a conservative amount of CLP and ran 700rds through same day... not a single problem. Ran another 300 or so the day after. Going to stress test this Saturday with 1500 and see how it goes. Only difference is mine is iron sights, just personal preference but that should have no impact on function. I've exclusively been a Glock guy for an EDC my entire life... the P365-FUSE is my first hand-gun outside of Glock, after familiarizing with a few Sig models I finally stepped over. I've been impressed so far, it's like Sig understands us Glock Slappy's haha.
@@MatthewReynolds-r3j aside from this issue with this P365 the Sig Sauer P365 is my favorite platform for Carry. I’ve had 10+ other ones without issue and overall love them. I love my Glock too though. 😀
Did you Direct mount your optic? I had a problem about a year ago when I purchased my Sig P320 DH3 and 5 inch 10mm. At the time CZcamsrs and Holosun said RMR optics direct mount which was not true. Holosun screws were to long for direct mount and destroyed two extractor springs which Sig replaced under warranty and informed me Holosun screws were to long and they see this problem all the time so started use C&H Precision plates and no problem. Just wondering if your optic screws are just starting to touch extractor not enough to completely damaged but enough to cause problems. With completely damaged or broke extractor handgun will jam when trying to go into battery and slide won’t completely close and go into battery. Just a suggestion.
@@mike34744 Holy cow I did not realize this was even possible... Makes sense though, I'm beginning to wonder if there is a correlation with the experience of factory mounted optics vs irons and the potential for an issue as @robertroberts440 notes. Less is more for me personally, I run barebones but it's a concealed EDC.. more comfortable with less :)
@@mike34744 what optic is that? Sportsmans sells the Fuse with the optic but doesn't specify if it is the closed emitter or open. Thanks and great video!
@@triggersandtech appreciate it. It’s the Romeo X (NOT ENCLOSED). I originally had the regular FUSE one on order and the gun store got the ones with the optic and it was only $200 more so I went for it. I thought it was the one that was enclosed because all the CZcamsrs received that one and that’s all the reviews I saw, but it was not enclosed. Either way I like it. I normally go with Holosun on everything, but this optic is very good in my opinion as long as it is durable.
Am I just crazy, does nobody else see the extractor isn't seated in the slide properly? They either fucked up the assembly or the manufacturing of that slide, glad sig's fixing it for you.
Actually, the back of the extractor comes out a little were you can see the spring. This is normal in 365. Mines is the same and works fine. These are more due to mag issues because my friend had the same problem. Spring is stiff, but let him use my mags that had tactical development plus 4 work just fine. Used his mags is my 365 n shit was jammer jack I swear, haha. But ya mags need to get worked in mostly.
Disassemble the gun. Stand the barrel on the muzzle and drop rounds by hand into the chamber. If they don’t drop in then you most likely have a chamber that was not concentric with the barrel. I have a Kimber that did exactly the same thing. I figured the problem on my own. Notified Kimber and they corrected the issue. Some rounds functioned perfectly and others didn’t. It’s sad that a reputable company has issues like this but shit happens.
@@mike34744 can you comment on here what they say? I bought one 3 days ago and it does the same thing. Seems like the extractor is too far inward and it's hanging up on the casing. I pulled another one I have apart and the casing doesn't fit as tight in the extractor of that one. Mine constantly fails to feed and I reached out to sig a couple days ago. Haven't heard anything yet
@@mike34744 for what it's worth, I shipped mine 1 week ago today. I got it back today with a new extractor, extractor spring, and they "detailed the feedway" so I assume polished the feed ramp or something. It will cycle just manually manipulating the slide by hand which it wouldn't before. I assume it's probably good now
I agree. My p320 Spectre Comp 8nutially stove piped every 3-5 rounds, multiple shooters, no limp wristing, didn't matter the ammo. After about 400 rounds the spring wore in and did it's job. Still get the occasional issue but every 100 rounds or so. Not impressed.
Why is the ejection port on the left side of the gun??? I'm confused. I noticed when you rack the slide, your hand rides the slide forward. You're supposed to rack the slide hard and let go of it. Let the spring pressure send it into battery. I've been through 3 law enforcement academies in the past 17 years. Just my observations based on my training with handguns.
That was me...gotta love that CZcams is sending me to the right videos on this, right? Mine landed back in Exeter earlier this morning. I'll post the results and hopefully, a detailed description of what caused problems on my fuse. I don't think that I even got 10 shots out of mine before I just got sick of messing with it. Supermike, you are waaaaay too patient. FYI, I verified that the problem is in the slide/upper. I swapped out uppers/lowers with my X Macro, and the same issues followed the fuse's slide.
I picked up my Sig 365 Fuse this last Wednesday. So far I put about 350 rounds through it without any failures. Shooting Winchester White box 115 grain. Your gun is obviously having issues. I hope Sig gets it sorted out.
I think that our experience is what most have been getting. I just mounted a Holosun 507K and put another 100 rounds through it yesterday with no issues. But there has been an unacceptable number of people having the same issues as the OP. From what I've seen it seems that Sig has been taking care of them and the fix was polishing the feed ramp transition into the barrel. I've had nothing but good luck with Sig and I own several of them. But I do question there quality program.
@@TONY4563084 they’re not junk all companies other than glock have their duds. With sigs it just happens to be every first gen gun. After that they’re pretty solid
I know I brought like four different types of ammo, but I had issues with all of them. I’m going back tomorrow or Monday to test it out again. Sig did some stuff to it so we’ll see.
I shot 500 rounds through mine. Have same issue with mine. Including light primer strikes. 3 to 4 failure to go into battery per magazine. Sending mine back.
@@2Amend4Life I wonder if the light primer strikes is because it’s not totally going into battery. Hopefully if that gets fixed, everything else will work. I really like mine now and it shoots great.
The two times I've ever had this issue with a Sig or a Springfield Armory Pistol, all I had to do was do a field strip, clean, and re-lube with a "nice" coating of lube. You're experiences may be, and likely are different. I'm just saying, anytime I've had that issue (And ammo was ruled out) it was a cleaning and lube issue. But who knows.
I wonder if the gun was well lubricated a lot of the people who had failures to feed were running the guns pretty dry and didn’t lube them before running them. For some reason they came out of the factory under lubricated those cases.
Im blown away by how many comments say "that's usual for SIG" or have that mindset already for SIG due to previous instances. Like "never buy a 365 first gen" And i recently noticed my trigger housing pin walking out on my 365 axg Legion. And I've been aware that the slide to frame fit might become loose near the muzzle, so much that it rattles when you shake it. Probably won't hinder it's performance much but the more play in the slide the more the accuracy is affected. Especially when im shooting. Having said that im nearly 400 rounds through it and it's ran great so far.
@@mike34744 my 365 AXG Legion has been flawless as well at 900+ rounds. I have the Fuse but have not had a chance to run it yet, will by this weekend though
I traded my 365 after 50 rds it locked up. Could not even disassemble it. When aiming at my target I would hit the guys target to my left at 5 yards. Don't buy a sig is what everyone says at work
Sig Beta tester, sorry for your loss. I really wanted to like them but almost all their products need revisions for product flaws. P320, P365, Sig Cross, MCX took three gens, now the P365 Fuse; c'mon mayne. Back to Glocks and ARs for their track record of reliability.
Looks familar. I had similar issues with 100 rounds. It seemed to run better with JHP than FMJ ammo. I've fieldstripped it and lubed it up. I'll see what happens tommorrow at the range. SMH!
You appear to be limp wristing… Your master grip isn’t high enough on the tang, while your support thumb is overlapping the other- rather than positioned underneath- pressing against the frame. Food for thought.
The weapon has really tight tolerances & definitely needs to be broken in, but I think your issue is the magazines are too stiff & need more of a break in. Maybe try putting 2rds in the mag & run it that way to see if it’s the gun or mags.
Magazines were 100%. Used them in other 365s to rule that out. This is what they did when I sent it out: Work performed: Polished breech face, stripper rail, and chamber transition. Good to go now.
That looks like ammo to me. Two times I’ve bought the blazer stuff at an indoor range and had a very similar outcome. The fact it cycles fine sometimes, but then fails several times in a row suggests it’s not the gun.
I wonder if the gun was well lubricated a lot of the people who had failures to feed were running the guns pretty dry and didn’t lube them before running them. For some reason they came out of the factory under lubricated those cases. I wonder what ammunition he’s running on that?
SIGs are made to tight tolerances, i had this same problem with 3 of them. The 1911 was the first and after a month of trying different things including buying Wilson Combat mags it would stil fail to feed. Took a chance and cleaned and lubed the hell out of it, almost over lubed it then started running like a champ. The P320s were the exact same thing. Lots of lube thru break in then your good to go. Good luck
What I’ve found with my Sigs, is certain mags cause feeding issues, usually the extended ones. Try using standard flush fit mags and extended side by side. I find my guns likes a good amount of lube too. Runs good on the drier side, but much better oiled. I clean and lube it up once a week and stopped using extended mags and my Sigs run fine now. Also, new mags tend to have a very tight spring and it seems like ones that are more broken in work just fine. I think the springs in the mags cause it partially. Cause i cant use any 18 rn .40 mags in my 320 chambered in that. Flush mags work like a charm. I can rapidly mag dump with no issues. With extended mags, it’s like every 3-4 rounds there’s a failure to feed.
God damn man why can’t shit just come out & WORK 😂. Reason I got rid of all my carry guns except 17 & p07, long history old guns I hate being a guinea pig beta tester
Same issue with my fuse. There are multiple things contributing, but one factor has got to be the recoil spring. It's too light on the fuse. My P365 X is harder to rack than the fuse. Canik mete MC9 had the same issue with failure to feed when it first came out. Their fix was a stiffer recoil spring.
Same issue. Failure to feed 10 times within 50rounds. Pitiful. It appears to be a bore issue. The bullet sits too tight. I then removed the mag and loaded 1 at a time, the bullet gets forced in too tight.
Bought one for my first handgun. So far I’m having problems when I rack the first round but after the first shot doesn’t have problems.. until I load the next mag.
The gun seems to be under spung needs a heavier recoil spring it shouldn't be doin that I Kno first hand how frustrating that is even for me if they fix it I have a hard time trusting something that should work out of the box.
I don’t own a fuse yet my LGS doesn’t have them yet. I am not sure what ammunition you are shooting. Read the owner’s manual. I have a hand gun that will not fire 115 grain. You have to use 124 grain NATO. The springs are so tight. It will not shoot the lighter ammunition after about 200 round of NATO. It would cycle 115.. I hope this helps
Sucks that you're having issues. I have about 300 rounds through mine in first few weeks, zero malfunctions. Then again I got a SS XR920P comp and first 200 rounds perfect too
This video is offensive. Sig should be ashamed of themselves. How did they not do more quality control?? I could see it having issues after so many rounds, but this thing doesn't work out of the box!! I own a p938, the only sig I've ever owned. But after this video I might be done with sig
Happens, it is a new gun. Sig has a reputation of releasing products before the bugs are worked out. Polish the feed ramp, oil her up and change ammo type and grain. If it keeps up, I would send it back. Maybe Mag Spring?
Magtech, S&B, PMC, and one other one I forgot off the top of my head. Clean and lubricated prior and after a couple magazines, I took it apart and lubed again.
I have a 229 legion and a p365. They both run great….. but don’t know that I’ll pick up any other striker fired guns from sig. Who knows though bought a sa and had to send it back
Its amazing how sig still outsources their R&D to their customers and sig gets paid to have their R&D done for them. Also they outsource their pricing to Gunbroker. Typical sig some good products and bad products all at bad prices for what they are.
Never owned an Sig and was contemplating buying the Fuse before the end of the year to add it to my small select collection but after watching this video I have decided that Sig Sauer makes absolutely dangerous firearms. So I will not invest in this company. I see that the only people that don’t have problems with these firearms are folks who rep their weapons and receive them for free and obviously have cart blanche when it comes to support! “Sig!, the dead man’s gun.”
It definitely hurts watching these videos with a p365 x macro tac ops in my waistband. Unfortunately it is a reality that Sig pushes their QC onto their customer base. I'm so tempted to just get a Glock 45 out of protest.
It does suck, but overall all my P365s have been reliable. Thankfully, it just needed polishing on all the internals and works fine now. At least it’s not a design flaw. I love the Glock 45. That’s my home defense gun.
@@mike34744 I'm actually in the process of reconfiguring one of my range toys. I had a XXL macro grip module from Icarus precision that I had an XL slide with a comp on. I ordered a fuse slide and tunable recoil assembly from FDEZ werx. Just waiting on their ported barrel restock this Friday. It should be fun if it works.
@@gw7231 they told me today that they polish the feeder ramp, the breach, and a couple other things and it works fine now. I’m going to retest when it gets delivered.
If u hit the back of the slide a couple times and it still don’t chamber it’s best to drop the mag and eject the live round before it fires out of battery cuz I’ve seen it happen.
I bought one about a week and a half ago. A week ago. I shot it. The first 3 mags, (17 and 2-21s), did this constantly. I brought it inside, cleaned it, and then just using the 17 round mag, was able to run it with 16 rounds 3 times without stoppage. It wouldn't even feed the 17th round though to shoot it. The mags were hard to load, so Im hoping the stiff mag springs caused these issues. I have had it in the safe for a week with the mags loaded to hopefully break in the springs, and I'm hoping tomorrow that it functions better. If that $700 gun doesn't do better, it's going back to SIG or getting traded in on something more reliable, and I'll never buy another SIG. I wish now that I had never bought it.
Follow up. I loaded all 3 magazines with FMJ and let them sit for a week and a half. I just ran them with no issues. I suspect the mag springs being stiff were causing the stoppages. I now have 158 rounds through it. I am going to reload the mags and let them sit for a few days before shooting again. Then between shooting all 3 mags several times, I'll put another 200 rounds through it to see if it is broken in enough to trust. If it cycles the next 200 rounds with no problems, I'll try some hollow points and then trust it to carry if it does well.
I discovered an issue this past weekend when changing the backstrap to the large from the medium. The medium backstrap has a nut (it's currently on the gun) in a small slot. The small and large ones do not have one. This is the nut that the star screw from the magwell goes into, to secure the mag well back on the gun and is part of the design to help hold it all together. My concern is "buggering" it up or losing it getting it out if I am supposed to swap it between backstraps. I have contacted SIG and requested 2 of them for those backstraps.
Its ridiculous that they didn't put them on the other backstraps, as its a very small piece that should be seated in the slot in the backstrap and left alone to prevent losing. I don't know what they were thinking as it can't cost very much and is a bad reflection on their design to not be a captive part, as well as of their cutting corners on a $700 gun. @mike34744
@@Diddley-js6lf it ended up being not polished enough for a couple internals and the breach face. Aside from that I didn’t do a video on it, but I actually had to send it back to have a double reset trigger fixed. They Replaced trigger bar, trigger, sear, safety lever, and striker safety.
I realize you may not be a gunsmith but simply slapping the slide into battery isn’t going to solve the problem. How about a field,strip,and inspection. It very well could have been a burr or piece of brass on the breachface? I don’t know. Just saying
Pretty bad when a Lorcin, Bryco, Jennings, and yeet cannon are more reliable. I’d bet even a Keltec is more reliable than this one. What ammo were you using?
@@mike34744 yeah, those should be 99-100% functional. Seems like a tight chamber and maybe throat. I hate you’re having to go through it. That said, when Sig had their guns made in Germany they were top shelf. They still make some decent products but I learned long ago to wait til it’s been out a year or so to get the bugs worked out. To be fair, Sphinx (the. Acquired by Kriss) slapped all their parts together and had similar problems on at least the Sphinx SDP Subcompact. They also kept putting the wrong sites on that same model and never could fix/figure out the problem. Fortunately mine only had the sight problem so I ordered an adjustable rear sight and shimmed it in place and the problem was solved. I have a P365 and a P365XL and they’ve both been 100% . I also waited over a year before I bought one. Hope they resolve yours for good.
576rds into mine so far, shooting 124gr brass. Shot some mags one handed too no issues. Sucks yours isn’t working right. I did wipe down the internals and oil the gun before taking it to the range.
@@mike34744 Wrong, ammo that works fine in some guns can be on the limit of not working with other guns. Look at all the NIB Gen5 Glocks that had issues with some anemic 115gr. loads, due to the stiffer RSA. Did you consider trying something like Fiocchi 124gr and of course fully cleaning and lubing the gun ?
@@great_deception I used 4 different types of ammo. If I used 1 type you might have a point but with 4 different ammo companies and all of them having an issue it’s the gun. I wouldn’t even carry a gun that picky with any ammo.
Your support hand needs to be in contact with the gun. You have like half your hand off the gun. You tuck your firing thumb under your support hand you lose tons of stability while shooting. The gun looks floppy when you shoot. Limp wrist action. I’m not blaming this one you. The weapon is probably a lemon. There’s always a couple and somebody has to get them. I think you were just the unfortunate one.
Wow!! That's a shame for so much money to get such piss poor performance. Looked at one in a local gun shop and damn near bought it. Glad I thought better of it not to.
Believe me, it’s a good gun. Possible yours might have some defect. Sig will fix it. I think any gun can have an issue…but all can be fixed. But try to disassemble and clean it . Look it over, see if anything looks wrong or worn. Check extractor & clean it. Maybe polish ramp. Hoping you can report positive news soon.
Goodness gracious I’m sorry man that seems terrible how that performed. Sigs when they come out seem too good to be true and usually they are. I have always heard that about Sig that’s why everyone says you are basically testing the gun out for them. I have a ton of glocks and M&Ps and I never have issues.
Yes, I cleaned and lubed it. I even did it after a couple hundred rounds to see if that was the issue. I have tons of Sig’s and never had issues either.
A polish the breach, feeder ramp, and a couple other things so if it runs flawless, it was an easy fix. I’ll try to update the channel with how it works.
Is it difficult to get all 17 rounds in the mag? Asking because I rented a well-used P365 and while loading the 12 rounders, it felt like Sig was asking too much from its magazine. As if, it should have been a 10 rounder, or 11 at most.
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Oil the pistol dude
@christophercohen8712 that wasn’t the issue
Welcome to the Sig Sauer Beta Test Program. Where you pay full price to find the bugs so we don't have to.
It’s funny you say that because I have a ton of Sigs and never had an issue and as soon as this happened, that was my first thought 😂.
It's why it's best to wait a year or two before buying a new Sig.
I run P320 X5 Legion and the P320 Spectre Comp, a few thousand rounds a month between the two (I'm a firearms instructor and a competitive shooter). 0 issues so far.
Common misconception
@@ChaddLseriously dude absolutely ridiculous
I've seen a handfull videos of people have issue with the fuse. I was worried when I bought my fuse.
But I had ZERO failures after shooting over 700 rounds so far. I've shot at least 500+ rounds of 115gr FMJ, 2 boxes of 124gr JHP, 2 boxes of 147gr JHP. The gun shoots awesome. I'm extremely glad with my purchase.
Now that mine is flawless I’m very happy as well.
There are perfectly made ones out there. But the majority are turds
@@mike34744 That's great to hear! I commented elsewhere, but as a guy crossing over from Glock for the first time to anything but a Glock.. it's good to know its working out.
It’s safe to say sig isn’t a top tier company anymore. Too many bugs in there new guns..
There’s a sign in every bathroom stall at Sig. it states “ Please flush twice..it’s a long way to the assembly line”.
A Sig having problems!? Who would have thought.
A p365 at that 🤦🏾♂️
Sig lost their way. Pumping out a new variant of the same trash every week.
I have had the Xmacro Tacops since December 2023 and I have not had a single failure yet. I have probably shot between 2000 and 3000 rounds and I only cleaned it once. I want to like this new one but you are right, there are other CZcamsrs complaining about the same thing, this is deeply concerning.
I love my regular X Macro.
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P365 fuse, dang sig, what'd you fuse it with, an MC9 (mine still doesn't run). LOL. Hopefully the turnaround on the repair isn't long. I'm actually looking forward to this one.
I had that happen with new mags, I just left them fully loaded for a few days and when I went to the range there was no issues.
Non-stop failures? You're doing it wrong lol no, I'm sorry to hear that. I picked mine up last Saturday. Added a conservative amount of CLP and ran 700rds through same day... not a single problem. Ran another 300 or so the day after. Going to stress test this Saturday with 1500 and see how it goes. Only difference is mine is iron sights, just personal preference but that should have no impact on function.
I've exclusively been a Glock guy for an EDC my entire life... the P365-FUSE is my first hand-gun outside of Glock, after familiarizing with a few Sig models I finally stepped over. I've been impressed so far, it's like Sig understands us Glock Slappy's haha.
@@MatthewReynolds-r3j aside from this issue with this P365 the Sig Sauer P365 is my favorite platform for Carry. I’ve had 10+ other ones without issue and overall love them.
I love my Glock too though. 😀
Did you Direct mount your optic? I had a problem about a year ago when I purchased my Sig P320 DH3 and 5 inch 10mm. At the time CZcamsrs and Holosun said RMR optics direct mount which was not true. Holosun screws were to long for direct mount and destroyed two extractor springs which Sig replaced under warranty and informed me Holosun screws were to long and they see this problem all the time so started use C&H Precision plates and no problem. Just wondering if your optic screws are just starting to touch extractor not enough to completely damaged but enough to cause problems. With completely damaged or broke extractor handgun will jam when trying to go into battery and slide won’t completely close and go into battery. Just a suggestion.
It actually came pre-mounted from Sig. I would imagine they use the correct screw size, but you never know.
@@mike34744 Holy cow I did not realize this was even possible... Makes sense though, I'm beginning to wonder if there is a correlation with the experience of factory mounted optics vs irons and the potential for an issue as @robertroberts440 notes.
Less is more for me personally, I run barebones but it's a concealed EDC.. more comfortable with less :)
@@mike34744 what optic is that? Sportsmans sells the Fuse with the optic but doesn't specify if it is the closed emitter or open. Thanks and great video!
@@triggersandtech appreciate it. It’s the Romeo X (NOT ENCLOSED). I originally had the regular FUSE one on order and the gun store got the ones with the optic and it was only $200 more so I went for it. I thought it was the one that was enclosed because all the CZcamsrs received that one and that’s all the reviews I saw, but it was not enclosed. Either way I like it. I normally go with Holosun on everything, but this optic is very good in my opinion as long as it is durable.
Am I just crazy, does nobody else see the extractor isn't seated in the slide properly? They either fucked up the assembly or the manufacturing of that slide, glad sig's fixing it for you.
Actually, the back of the extractor comes out a little were you can see the spring. This is normal in 365. Mines is the same and works fine. These are more due to mag issues because my friend had the same problem. Spring is stiff, but let him use my mags that had tactical development plus 4 work just fine. Used his mags is my 365 n shit was jammer jack I swear, haha. But ya mags need to get worked in mostly.
Disassemble the gun. Stand the barrel on the muzzle and drop rounds by hand into the chamber. If they don’t drop in then you most likely have a chamber that was not concentric with the barrel. I have a Kimber that did exactly the same thing. I figured the problem on my own. Notified Kimber and they corrected the issue. Some rounds functioned perfectly and others didn’t. It’s sad that a reputable company has issues like this but shit happens.
I just shipped it out to Sig already. I’ve seen a couple other people have the issue so this way they can figure it out and see what’s up.
@@mike34744 can you comment on here what they say? I bought one 3 days ago and it does the same thing. Seems like the extractor is too far inward and it's hanging up on the casing. I pulled another one I have apart and the casing doesn't fit as tight in the extractor of that one. Mine constantly fails to feed and I reached out to sig a couple days ago. Haven't heard anything yet
@ryanstumpf1 yes they said they polished the breach, feed ramp, and other internals and sending back. They said no failures in test firing after that.
@@mike34744 for what it's worth, I shipped mine 1 week ago today. I got it back today with a new extractor, extractor spring, and they "detailed the feedway" so I assume polished the feed ramp or something. It will cycle just manually manipulating the slide by hand which it wouldn't before. I assume it's probably good now
Never buy a new p365 or 320, wait a year. Just like a new model of car. Sig is great but they beta test on their customers
This guy is definitely right. I like this gun and what it's designed for but I'll give it a while.
I agree. My p320 Spectre Comp 8nutially stove piped every 3-5 rounds, multiple shooters, no limp wristing, didn't matter the ammo. After about 400 rounds the spring wore in and did it's job. Still get the occasional issue but every 100 rounds or so. Not impressed.
Why is the ejection port on the left side of the gun??? I'm confused. I noticed when you rack the slide, your hand rides the slide forward. You're supposed to rack the slide hard and let go of it. Let the spring pressure send it into battery. I've been through 3 law enforcement academies in the past 17 years. Just my observations based on my training with handguns.
@@BrandensOutdoorChannel I was using front facing camera and probably made it look like that, but it’s on the right.
Man, that’s far worse than mine. I had a person comment on a video describing the exact issues shown in your video.
@@averagemarksman I figured others would be having the same issue. Let’s see what Sig says.
@@mike34744 hopefully they have a solution.
That was me...gotta love that CZcams is sending me to the right videos on this, right? Mine landed back in Exeter earlier this morning. I'll post the results and hopefully, a detailed description of what caused problems on my fuse. I don't think that I even got 10 shots out of mine before I just got sick of messing with it.
Supermike, you are waaaaay too patient.
FYI, I verified that the problem is in the slide/upper. I swapped out uppers/lowers with my X Macro, and the same issues followed the fuse's slide.
I picked up my Sig 365 Fuse this last Wednesday. So far I put about 350 rounds through it without any failures. Shooting Winchester White box 115 grain. Your gun is obviously having issues. I hope Sig gets it sorted out.
Mine is fine too. 400 rounds out the box. Never had an issue
I think that our experience is what most have been getting. I just mounted a Holosun 507K and put another 100 rounds through it yesterday with no issues. But there has been an unacceptable number of people having the same issues as the OP. From what I've seen it seems that Sig has been taking care of them and the fix was polishing the feed ramp transition into the barrel. I've had nothing but good luck with Sig and I own several of them. But I do question there quality program.
I learned the hard way with sig. never buying a sig
Just cant buy new models till they work the bugs out. Gotta wait about a year after release
Except the sig p226 is better than any glock.
@@mrgoodbar216sig is junk
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@@TONY4563084 they’re not junk all companies other than glock have their duds. With sigs it just happens to be every first gen gun. After that they’re pretty solid
classic Kimber quality control with the Sig name
A Sig with mechanical issues? Wow, imagine my surprise. They love using customers as QC.
I love my p365 micro. It's a great pistol and NEVER fails. EVER! I was looking into a fuse, but I'll have to look into it.
It has the same exact fire control unit, barrel design and magazines as all other p365s. It just has a longer barrel and milled slide.
I know that’s why I can’t understand what issue it could be having. It’s not like it’s a new gun. It’s just a longer barrel and slide.
As soon as this gets fixed I’m getting one, it’s a damn good looking gun.
Yes, it’s beautiful and it does shoot good.
This is why im desperately looking for good new on it 😂
I bought one a couple weeks ago. Only shot 150 rounds of 115 fmj but no issues for me.
Whenever you have any kind of failure should always let someone else at the range try it and always try some other ammo.
I know I brought like four different types of ammo, but I had issues with all of them. I’m going back tomorrow or Monday to test it out again. Sig did some stuff to it so we’ll see.
I shot 500 rounds through mine. Have same issue with mine. Including light primer strikes. 3 to 4 failure to go into battery per magazine. Sending mine back.
@@2Amend4Life I wonder if the light primer strikes is because it’s not totally going into battery. Hopefully if that gets fixed, everything else will work. I really like mine now and it shoots great.
The two times I've ever had this issue with a Sig or a Springfield Armory Pistol, all I had to do was do a field strip, clean, and re-lube with a "nice" coating of lube. You're experiences may be, and likely are different. I'm just saying, anytime I've had that issue (And ammo was ruled out) it was a cleaning and lube issue. But who knows.
How do you release a gun like that, being Sig..... CMon
I wonder if the gun was well lubricated a lot of the people who had failures to feed were running the guns pretty dry and didn’t lube them before running them. For some reason they came out of the factory under lubricated those cases.
I cleaned and lubed prior and then at 200 rounds again.
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Metal or compact? :) Yes
Im blown away by how many comments say "that's usual for SIG" or have that mindset already for SIG due to previous instances. Like "never buy a 365 first gen"
And i recently noticed my trigger housing pin walking out on my 365 axg Legion. And I've been aware that the slide to frame fit might become loose near the muzzle, so much that it rattles when you shake it. Probably won't hinder it's performance much but the more play in the slide the more the accuracy is affected. Especially when im shooting. Having said that im nearly 400 rounds through it and it's ran great so far.
My 365 AXG legion has been flawless for about six or 700 round so far.
@@mike34744 well that's good to hear, I hope it continues!
@@mike34744 my 365 AXG Legion has been flawless as well at 900+ rounds. I have the Fuse but have not had a chance to run it yet, will by this weekend though
Looks like I'll be carrying my Beretta 92X RDO Compact for awhile longer.. 😅... I am interested in this pistol though..
I traded my 365 after 50 rds it locked up. Could not even disassemble it. When aiming at my target I would hit the guys target to my left at 5 yards. Don't buy a sig is what everyone says at work
Sig Beta tester, sorry for your loss. I really wanted to like them but almost all their products need revisions for product flaws.
P320, P365, Sig Cross, MCX took three gens, now the P365 Fuse; c'mon mayne.
Back to Glocks and ARs for their track record of reliability.
Looks familar. I had similar issues with 100 rounds. It seemed to run better with JHP than FMJ ammo. I've fieldstripped it and lubed it up. I'll see what happens tommorrow at the range. SMH!
@@k1ngdomdefense404 good luck!
You appear to be limp wristing…
Your master grip isn’t high enough on the tang, while your support thumb is overlapping the other- rather than positioned underneath- pressing against the frame.
Food for thought.
The weapon has really tight tolerances & definitely needs to be broken in, but I think your issue is the magazines are too stiff & need more of a break in.
Maybe try putting 2rds in the mag & run it that way to see if it’s the gun or mags.
Magazines were 100%. Used them in other 365s to rule that out. This is what they did when I sent it out: Work performed: Polished breech face, stripper rail, and chamber transition. Good to go now.
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That looks like ammo to me. Two times I’ve bought the blazer stuff at an indoor range and had a very similar outcome. The fact it cycles fine sometimes, but then fails several times in a row suggests it’s not the gun.
I used 4 different types and all had issues.
Ppl talk trash about stock glocks but they just plain work!
@@MrRjezonie I love Glocks. I wish they came out with more round capacity for micro guns but aside from that I love them.
I wonder if the gun was well lubricated a lot of the people who had failures to feed were running the guns pretty dry and didn’t lube them before running them. For some reason they came out of the factory under lubricated those cases. I wonder what ammunition he’s running on that?
@@seanpadraig1266 was cleaned and lubed prior and also at 200 round mark.
It's a Sig. Always Waite for the next generation.
Only thing is, they don't "manufacture " gen 2's, they fix the problem and keep selling all versions, so you never know which you will get.
I’m getting the shield plus comp instead. Aint got time for all those malfunctions
See many folks have issues with Shadow Systems as well sadly.
I got the CR920X and had issues with that one unfortunately. I never have issues with any of my stuff, but the past two in a row bad luck.
SIGs are made to tight tolerances, i had this same problem with 3 of them. The 1911 was the first and after a month of trying different things including buying Wilson Combat mags it would stil fail to feed. Took a chance and cleaned and lubed the hell out of it, almost over lubed it then started running like a champ. The P320s were the exact same thing. Lots of lube thru break in then your good to go. Good luck
What I’ve found with my Sigs, is certain mags cause feeding issues, usually the extended ones. Try using standard flush fit mags and extended side by side. I find my guns likes a good amount of lube too. Runs good on the drier side, but much better oiled. I clean and lube it up once a week and stopped using extended mags and my Sigs run fine now. Also, new mags tend to have a very tight spring and it seems like ones that are more broken in work just fine. I think the springs in the mags cause it partially. Cause i cant use any 18 rn .40 mags in my 320 chambered in that. Flush mags work like a charm. I can rapidly mag dump with no issues. With extended mags, it’s like every 3-4 rounds there’s a failure to feed.
Thanks for the tip. I bought a couple mags from my other 365s and they work fine in them but still had issues in this one.
God damn man why can’t shit just come out & WORK 😂. Reason I got rid of all my carry guns except 17 & p07, long history old guns I hate being a guinea pig beta tester
Same issue with my fuse. There are multiple things contributing, but one factor has got to be the recoil spring. It's too light on the fuse. My P365 X is harder to rack than the fuse. Canik mete MC9 had the same issue with failure to feed when it first came out. Their fix was a stiffer recoil spring.
The dang guid rod ain't even metal
I wonder if they’ll announce it if they change the recoil spring or just implement it into the new ones.
Same issue. Failure to feed 10 times within 50rounds. Pitiful. It appears to be a bore issue. The bullet sits too tight. I then removed the mag and loaded 1 at a time, the bullet gets forced in too tight.
Bought one for my first handgun. So far I’m having problems when I rack the first round but after the first shot doesn’t have problems.. until I load the next mag.
How many rounds have you put through it?
@@mike34744 only about 50 so far.. plan to take it again soon. I’m hoping it gets better id prefer not to send it in.
The gun seems to be under spung needs a heavier recoil spring it shouldn't be doin that I Kno first hand how frustrating that is even for me if they fix it I have a hard time trusting something that should work out of the box.
Do what?!! Even from hand racking! I wouldn't have believe it if you didn't have it on video.
I don’t own a fuse yet my LGS doesn’t have them yet. I am not sure what ammunition you are shooting. Read the owner’s manual. I have a hand gun that will not fire 115 grain. You have to use 124 grain NATO. The springs are so tight. It will not shoot the lighter ammunition after about 200 round of NATO. It would cycle 115..
I hope this helps
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Sucks that you're having issues. I have about 300 rounds through mine in first few weeks, zero malfunctions. Then again I got a SS XR920P comp and first 200 rounds perfect too
They should rename that gun to, "Confused."
This video is offensive. Sig should be ashamed of themselves. How did they not do more quality control?? I could see it having issues after so many rounds, but this thing doesn't work out of the box!! I own a p938, the only sig I've ever owned. But after this video I might be done with sig
Mine has non stop firing! Perfectly perfect!
Hopefully mine will be one day too.
Happens, it is a new gun. Sig has a reputation of releasing products before the bugs are worked out. Polish the feed ramp, oil her up and change ammo type and grain. If it keeps up, I would send it back. Maybe Mag Spring?
Mine too, Same issues.
With a fuse? That’s why I put the video out in case somebody else is having the same issue.
Shot 300 rds today and zero issues 😎
Nice!
a$$ usual, Sig always $hitting the bed w new toys.....What ammo did you use. Was gun lubed well. And: take it apart after 2 FTF and check stuff.....
Magtech, S&B, PMC, and one other one I forgot off the top of my head. Clean and lubricated prior and after a couple magazines, I took it apart and lubed again.
Trade for a walther
I have a 229 legion and a p365. They both run great….. but don’t know that I’ll pick up any other striker fired guns from sig. Who knows though bought a sa and had to send it back
I have a 229 legion and a p365. They both run great….. but don’t know that I’ll pick up any other striker fired guns from sig
Its amazing how sig still outsources their R&D to their customers and sig gets paid to have their R&D done for them. Also they outsource their pricing to Gunbroker. Typical sig some good products and bad products all at bad prices for what they are.
I hate that for you. The gun looks awesome but I’ll stick with the echelon and g19.
Never owned an Sig and was contemplating buying the Fuse before the end of the year to add it to my small select collection but after watching this video I have decided that Sig Sauer makes absolutely dangerous firearms. So I will not invest in this company. I see that the only people that don’t have problems with these firearms are folks who rep their weapons and receive them for free and obviously have cart blanche when it comes to support! “Sig!, the dead man’s gun.”
It definitely hurts watching these videos with a p365 x macro tac ops in my waistband. Unfortunately it is a reality that Sig pushes their QC onto their customer base. I'm so tempted to just get a Glock 45 out of protest.
It does suck, but overall all my P365s have been reliable. Thankfully, it just needed polishing on all the internals and works fine now. At least it’s not a design flaw. I love the Glock 45. That’s my home defense gun.
@@mike34744 I'm actually in the process of reconfiguring one of my range toys. I had a XXL macro grip module from Icarus precision that I had an XL slide with a comp on. I ordered a fuse slide and tunable recoil assembly from FDEZ werx. Just waiting on their ported barrel restock this Friday. It should be fun if it works.
Did you try different ammo?
Did you lube it?
I love mine…no problems
Hope you get it fixed
Yes. 4 types of ammo cleaned and lubed prior. Also lube again after 200 rounds thinking it might be that.
So you can be happy! You picked up the only one who works😀
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@@gw7231 they told me today that they polish the feeder ramp, the breach, and a couple other things and it works fine now. I’m going to retest when it gets delivered.
@@mike34744 great…hope it’s ok
Simple fix if it works
If u hit the back of the slide a couple times and it still don’t chamber it’s best to drop the mag and eject the live round before it fires out of battery cuz I’ve seen it happen.
I know after watching the video back I realize I should’ve stopped after a couple times. I started getting frustrated.
1st batch testing. Same thing with the Prodigy before and the Canik TTI too.
I bought one about a week and a half ago. A week ago. I shot it. The first 3 mags, (17 and 2-21s), did this constantly. I brought it inside, cleaned it, and then just using the 17 round mag, was able to run it with 16 rounds 3 times without stoppage. It wouldn't even feed the 17th round though to shoot it. The mags were hard to load, so Im hoping the stiff mag springs caused these issues. I have had it in the safe for a week with the mags loaded to hopefully break in the springs, and I'm hoping tomorrow that it functions better. If that $700 gun doesn't do better, it's going back to SIG or getting traded in on something more reliable, and I'll never buy another SIG. I wish now that I had never bought it.
Follow up. I loaded all 3 magazines with FMJ and let them sit for a week and a half. I just ran them with no issues. I suspect the mag springs being stiff were causing the stoppages. I now have 158 rounds through it. I am going to reload the mags and let them sit for a few days before shooting again. Then between shooting all 3 mags several times, I'll put another 200 rounds through it to see if it is broken in enough to trust. If it cycles the next 200 rounds with no problems, I'll try some hollow points and then trust it to carry if it does well.
@johnmott3897 awesome
I discovered an issue this past weekend when changing the backstrap to the large from the medium. The medium backstrap has a nut (it's currently on the gun) in a small slot. The small and large ones do not have one. This is the nut that the star screw from the magwell goes into, to secure the mag well back on the gun and is part of the design to help hold it all together. My concern is "buggering" it up or losing it getting it out if I am supposed to swap it between backstraps. I have contacted SIG and requested 2 of them for those backstraps.
@johnmott3897 I hadn’t changed my backstrap so I didn’t even notice anything.
Its ridiculous that they didn't put them on the other backstraps, as its a very small piece that should be seated in the slot in the backstrap and left alone to prevent losing. I don't know what they were thinking as it can't cost very much and is a bad reflection on their design to not be a captive part, as well as of their cutting corners on a $700 gun. @mike34744
Well fuck right when my faith in Sig was almost restored. Guess its back to Glock or Springfield for my next pistol purchase.
The Trigger Control Group Is Identical To all The Other Models of The 365
@@Diddley-js6lf it ended up being not polished enough for a couple internals and the breach face. Aside from that I didn’t do a video on it, but I actually had to send it back to have a double reset trigger fixed. They Replaced trigger bar, trigger, sear, safety lever, and striker safety.
Thanks for sharing. Was looking to purchase a Fuse. Maybe i should wait to purchase.??
I hate waiting to purchase new things, but this happens sometimes I guess.
Owned one Sig same issues sold after a month
I realize you may not be a gunsmith but simply slapping the slide into battery isn’t going to solve the problem. How about a field,strip,and inspection. It very well could have been a burr or piece of brass on the breachface? I don’t know. Just saying
I did that after about 200 rounds. Nothing I can see out of the ordinary. Yes I’m definitely not a gunsmith though.
Pretty bad when a Lorcin, Bryco, Jennings, and yeet cannon are more reliable. I’d bet even a Keltec is more reliable than this one. What ammo were you using?
115 grain S&B, Magtech, Fiochi, and another one I can remember.
@@mike34744 yeah, those should be 99-100% functional. Seems like a tight chamber and maybe throat. I hate you’re having to go through it. That said, when Sig had their guns made in Germany they were top shelf. They still make some decent products but I learned long ago to wait til it’s been out a year or so to get the bugs worked out. To be fair, Sphinx (the. Acquired by Kriss) slapped all their parts together and had similar problems on at least the Sphinx SDP Subcompact. They also kept putting the wrong sites on that same model and never could fix/figure out the problem. Fortunately mine only had the sight problem so I ordered an adjustable rear sight and shimmed it in place and the problem was solved.
I have a P365 and a P365XL and they’ve both been 100% . I also waited over a year before I bought one. Hope they resolve yours for good.
They polished the breach and a couple other internals and now 100%. It was simple fix. Thankfully
Thanks for making this video..The bought and paid for guntubers will not make one like this..
Thanks. I’m actually a Sig fanboy and didn’t want to, but saw another video of similar stuff and figure other people had the same issue.
@@mike34744you are Glock suck
576rds into mine so far, shooting 124gr brass. Shot some mags one handed too no issues. Sucks yours isn’t working right. I did wipe down the internals and oil the gun before taking it to the range.
Most likely underpowered ammo, aggregated by the gun being factory new with likely little or no oil.
I used multiple types of ammo that runs fine in all other guns so not ammo.
@@mike34744 Wrong, ammo that works fine in some guns can be on the limit of not working with other guns. Look at all the NIB Gen5 Glocks that had issues with some anemic 115gr. loads, due to the stiffer RSA. Did you consider trying something like Fiocchi 124gr and of course fully cleaning and lubing the gun ?
@@great_deception I used 4 different types of ammo. If I used 1 type you might have a point but with 4 different ammo companies and all of them having an issue it’s the gun. I wouldn’t even carry a gun that picky with any ammo.
Imagine you're on the bad side of town doing business and you had to defend yourself against 2 crazy carjackers and your gun does that..... 😬
It’s crazy I have over 800 rounds through mine and have zero failures
Nice!
Your support hand needs to be in contact with the gun. You have like half your hand off the gun. You tuck your firing thumb under your support hand you lose tons of stability while shooting. The gun looks floppy when you shoot. Limp wrist action. I’m not blaming this one you. The weapon is probably a lemon. There’s always a couple and somebody has to get them. I think you were just the unfortunate one.
Here we go.
and then.......there is PERFECTION.....
Yep, the p226😅
@Shadowdancer777 I think he was referring to the Yeet Cannon.
Will be up there week after next and planned on running the fuse and the legion ...we will see
is the gun defective or can this be fixed?
@@chadmccoy916 I’m sending it back. I’m sure they’ll fix it. I’ll keep you updated.
Wow!! That's a shame for so much money to get such piss poor performance. Looked at one in a local gun shop and damn near bought it. Glad I thought better of it not to.
That is wild - I also have had bad luck with the non P2## series for some reason
I would say breakin but the the force you had to use to RTB - yikes
Dang, that's bad. Probably a manufacture defect. Never seen a Sig malfunction like that.
Believe me, it’s a good gun. Possible yours might have some defect. Sig will fix it. I think any gun can have an issue…but all can be fixed.
But try to disassemble and clean it . Look it over, see if anything looks wrong or worn. Check extractor & clean it. Maybe polish ramp.
Hoping you can report positive news soon.
I have a bunch of 365s and they all work flawlessly so I’m confident it’ll be fixed.
It bugs me when security guys carry Sig. Feed ramp issues are not good lolz!
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Goodness gracious I’m sorry man that seems terrible how that performed. Sigs when they come out seem too good to be true and usually they are. I have always heard that about Sig that’s why everyone says you are basically testing the gun out for them. I have a ton of glocks and M&Ps and I never have issues.
He was shooting wrong handed. That is a right hand gun...
😂. If that was only the case.
Have you thought of lubricating that weapon? I've had Sigs for ages and fired dozens of thousands of rounds. Never had this happened to me, ever.
Yes, I cleaned and lubed it. I even did it after a couple hundred rounds to see if that was the issue. I have tons of Sig’s and never had issues either.
@mike34744 This sucks... I just bought a Fuse today. I gotta get to the range asap.
A polish the breach, feeder ramp, and a couple other things so if it runs flawless, it was an easy fix. I’ll try to update the channel with how it works.
All the sig fans boasting how great Sig is but then there’s Glock who is not as innovative to new products but they are RELIABLE as hell.
Is it difficult to get all 17 rounds in the mag?
Asking because I rented a well-used P365 and while loading the 12 rounders, it felt like Sig was asking too much from its magazine. As if, it should have been a 10 rounder, or 11 at most.
No problem loading. I use an Uplula mag loader but wasn’t hard at all. I load all my 12/17/ & 21 p365 rounds to the max.