I just ordered a new PSU and a RTX 2060 Super 12GB (yes, that's a thing.) So that will be my build in about a week. The 1050 Ti (best card the stock PSU would support) already punches way above is weight class. Also upgrading the memory to 32 GB, and replacing the SSD. The one that came with the rig (refurbished Dell Optiplex 9020) sucks- slower than a good HDD. When I get done, I'll have about $800 into a PC that would cost you twice that at least from one of those custom PC builders. Has all the aesthetics of a concrete block, but who cares? I don't like RGB anyway. I could spend around $70 for a new triple-fan case and the adapters to put the Dell guts into it, but won't bother unless the new setup has cooling issues. At that point the only thing stock will be the MOBO.
@ostlandr Sounds awesome! It won't disappoint you. I still have my 1050Ti, I installed it in a PC I built for my son, but for some reason Warzone doesn't start. I don't know if it's because of the gpu though.
Yup, I bought my i7 4790k nine years ago, and still using it to play starfield and baldur's gate 3. Have a big Noturia fan along with 32GB of DDr3 ram. NVME and few SSD to boot. Nvidia RTX 3060 12 GB does all the hard work.
Run the memory at 2400 Mhz cl11 if possible (@1.65V max). You see a noticeable performance improvement over the "typical" 1600 Mhz RAM frequency, today in modern games.
I hope this channel remains reviewing old gaming hardware. There are too many new gaming hardware review channels now and not enough old hardware gaming review channels to see if old hardware can still hold up with modern games. Besides a good sum of people are on a tight budget now given the current economic situation and can only afford to buy old hardware like this, so it helps out a lot .
@@computerrefurbishment9748 i just built a system recently based on AMDs AM4. Even going ultra budget for gaming on newer hardware, using a Ryzen 5 5600G, and 16gb of DDR4 3200 ram, it set me back 485 dollars total, that included a B550 mobo, a case and a PSU. Sure i could have built it even cheaper and saved 45 dollars, but i wanted a good PSU. I plan on upgrading to a GPU in 6 months, probably to a Radeon 6650XT, but i didn't want to go over 500 dollars on this build right now. So in the mean time i'll just do some light gaming. My old AMD FX system had to get retired.
It'll stay like this for a long time. If given the option to spend 300 bucks on a new ish budget gpu, or 300 budget on some flagship monstrosity from 2007, I'm choosing the cars from 07. (Plus I'm broke to so don't expect any brand new parts for years)
@@computerrefurbishment9748 I'm on a i5 4590 and still holds up with everything I throw at it with an RX570 4GB 1080p low/med on most things. Going to pick up a cheap i7 4790 in a couple of days and that will do until I do notice real issues. Entire system with 16GB DDR3 1600, 1TB SSD, 128GB SSD boot drive and a 22" 1080p Dell monitor, £150 (190USD)for the lot.
My main PC still has a 4790K @ 4,4 GHz, that I bought back in 2014 when it was released. I have just upgraded RAM to 32 GB, GPU to a 3070, and replaced HDDs with SSDs. I have never before had a CPU last this long.
I like the processor too, rebuilt one for the kids and one for another kid going into college. But as far as frame rates go even the 12th gen i3 which is pretty cheap, and you can find motherboards reasonably priced, you should pull 40 more frames a second and what you're currently getting. But where the difference really shows is also 100% faster on processor between that 12th i3 and the same 4th gen i7.
Love this CPU. I still have my previous computer that I built with the 4790K and it's overclocked to 4.6 GHz all cores with decent temps (water cooled with well vented case). Had no problem running Cyberpunk 2077 for the first seven months paired with an overclocked GTX 1660ti. Now it's just my spare computer hooked up to my den TV.
@@khaledahmad7204remember he upgraded from a i3 4th gen, that i7 4770 is going to be a heaven for our man and certainly he ain't going to play games like starfield with this CPU, (maybe😅)
I used a 4790k for years. I loved it. I used it with a Noctua NH-D14 which cooled it brilliantly. It is so good it now cools my 3900X great. Keep up the good work dude!
I still use the 4790 to this day, it's safer than the 6 to 11 generation CPUs, doesn't have the Downfall vulnerability later models have. I don't play games, I design games..
I had bought a i7 4790k when it was brand new, I remember that it was a big deal when it was released, had played a lot of witcher 3 with this chip. I had a gtx 780 paired with it as well sheesh times have changed. it had ran hot with even a noctua NH-U12S at 4.4ghz all core oc. its still impressive how that locked chip run games now a days!
This video is so well made, a huge thumbs up! The production is insane, definitely worth more followers, just subscribed to your channel! Hope the CZcams algorithm kicks in soon!
On the cooler, old HP system motherboards don't use a standard mounting size for the cpu cooler. The G1 Tower has a larger (flat, fan on top) cooler that uses the same mounting. It was proprietary (non ATX) along with the rest of the motherboard. The tower also used a case exhaust fan. You will need to find another board if you want to upgrade cooler and power supply. It also dose not have the options to overclock. Still they were built to run all day for years on end in a business environment. I just retired my HP G1 800 I7 4790 tower last week.
I run a pair of E5-2667 v2 (same era, slightly slower top speeds, far bigger Cache) with a GeForce GTC 1070 to this day. Thinking about a GPU upgrade sometime next year, way before I even consider a CPU/Mainboard swap. Excellent CPU generation!
I built my kids the i5 4730k new back in the day. They were very little and are still playing with it today. I paired it with an old 980 ti and seems to be a good fit for their uses. I have considered upgrading it to the 4790k but I am not sure the hyperthreading is really worth it. I personally have a 4930k and with a 1080 ti it still runs games fine for me. I am finally considering upgrading (no avx2), I have gotten into emulation and there are a few emulators that I need more cpu. My old PS3 and Xbox 360 have died on me finally.
Good vid!! Haswell was a massive improvement over Ivy Bridge, not only in core architecture and efficiency but we also got AVX2 instructions, crucial for many modern titles
I've had this cpu literally a few weeks ago, I've upgraded to 11600kf, it's still a pretty capable CPU but I can definitely feel the difference after upgrading! if you want a no non sense gaming CPU it's a solid choice.
I still run the 4790 system that I built in 2016. If it didn't bottle neck the 3080 that I bought last year so bad, I might still use it daily. It's my own couch steam machine today.
Another important benefit of haswell is that they were the 1st generation to support avx 2 instructions unlike the previous gens. This will make this gen age much better in my opinion. Very nice review though I believe that your planned upgrade to an SSD is really necessary. I briefly used a HDD in a secondary PC that have with an i7 920 @4Ghz and it was a constant bottleneck even when I downloaded simple programs.
Up until last week, I have been using a 4790k, which I had upgraded from a 4790 about four years ago. It has lasted many years for me. It has been almost a decade. Previously, I had an FX-8350. When I switched, I upgraded the motherboard, with one that had a built-in NVME drive. I then got a BlackMagic card, so I could record from the 4790 machine.
Great vid! Thank you for creating & posting it. I’m finishing a 13th gen i3/ AMD 7600/Windows 11 build for my son this week. His current hand-me-down system (i3-4130/AMD 6600/Windows 10) will be the guest pc or for us to game together while sitting next to each other. I’m considering upgrading the CPU for his old system after I finish the new one for him, so this here is exactly the video I was looking for.
Glad you liked the video! A 4790 would definitely be a good upgrade for that 4130 system. The i3 is still decent, but the 4790 is flawless in day to day tasks, and capable at gaming
Make sure you get the Intel Chipset drivers, I've found that makes a massive performance improvement with an HDD. The default Windows drivers appear to work ok (and don't report any errors in the device mangler) but the performance difference is huge and VERY noticeable.
I have a 4790k on a z97 motherboard running with 32GB of DDR3-2400 cl11 RAM in XMP, and a RTX 4070 video card. It run all my games easily at 4K resolution in High to Max. settings at 60 fps. By example I have almost constant 60 fps in Cyberpunk 2077 with DLSS on Quality Mode. Same constant 60 fps in Far Cry 6 and other games.
I once got a Dell Tower with a i3 4170 cpu and I put in a 4790 cpu and it was thermal throttling. I did a bit of research and Dell put a smaller/weaker fan on the i3 cooler than the i7, they used the same heat sink. I put a bigger/better fan on the heat sink and temps lowered with no more throttling.
You didn't ask my opinion if that ship except the motherboard that you have that is a well investment especially if you're getting a more powerful air cooler consider even getting the 4790k I have a Dell 3090 optiplex with a 1660 super I play triple games all the time with a 700 watt PSU Overkill but I didn't want to have any issues if I wanted to upgrade in a future
got mine in a $20 HP 800 SFF rig w/ all new peripherals, threw in 16gb cl9 ram, an ssd, and a sff gtx 1650 (no bottleneck until u go 6600/3060). works great for mid tier gaming. runs windows 11 just fine w/ one registry hack
I built a Core i7-4790K system 7 years ago and it's still my daily driver. I have a Core i7-8700K as my gamer now but this 4th Gen just keeps on kickin' it! If it ain't broke - Don't mess with it!
Nice video, subbed. I've really enjoyed this generation. Currently have on my second rig this CPU and am about to throw it in a Silverstone rvn02 with blower Rtx 2080, nvme 2Tb 970 Evo. I've played Assassin's Creed Origins maxed out at 1440p on this rig, good stuff. I think as DLSS keeps getting better, hardware requirements should keep going down. Anyways, go re-up building, better for the environment and just fun.
Just as a point of comparison to your 4277 CB23 Score (due to 3.6Ghz all core), I just ran CB R23.2 on my 4790K, running at 4.6Ghz all core @1.23V (since 2015 - same solid OC setup) with Kingston 1866 DDR3 Ram (CL10), and I got a score of 5596 (priority normal for CB) and 5695 (priority Realtime for CB). So, there is actually a lot of headroom in the 4790K SKU compared to the non-K SKU with a small cooler. Its now my daughter/family PC since I built my 7800X3D PC recently, and I still find it very responsive (highly optimized bloat free Windows 10) and usable in games paired with my trusty EVGA FTW3 1080Ti. I also tested the 4790K system with 4090 (for science), and most games it could play fine enough at 4K60Hz on my OLED TV, but obviously the 4090 was barely pushed in most games even at 4K with the 4790K. Still, its served me well over the years and continues to do so as a family/kids PC.
I bought a Devil's Canyon, Z97 mobo, and 32 Gb ddr3 near a decade ago to upgrade an older system and have had zero problems with it since assembly. I did add a 2080 a few years later. Some games I can play in 4k with setting all the way up, others I have to use a lower setting. But I've yet to find a game or app I can't run smoothly.
Same processor here and the best solution the overheating or thermal throttling is to delid and replace the hardened TIM similar to normal thermal paste (not STIM). you can use any thermal paste or branded thermal paste, but as for me, I used liquid metal and added the IHS back. Test: ambient temp is 30C | Snowman MT6S dual fan 6 heatpipe tower Before delid: idle around 45C to 50C | Premiere pro, Prime 95, Cinebech R23 will go beyond 100C quickly After Delid: idle 35C | Premiere Pro and Cinebench R23 - 65C | Prime 95 - 75C
Im still running my 2014 I7 5960x . Its still going strong 9 years later. My main gaming system has a 5800x3d . The 5960x is in my livingroom PC where i game at 1080p on my TV set with my steam controller.
I just got mine from an old work PC and the clock falls to 3.6GHz after a few seconds in Cinebench, no matter my settings in BIOS. I got like 40C temp and it consumes around 32W of power during Cinebench R23, I also got a similar score to yours. I don't quite understand why it consumes so little power and why it always goes down to 3.6GHz. Any suggestions?
I recently redid two pcs with a 4790k and a 4770. Both were delidded and i used noctua 2nd gen paste. They both pull 100% at around 165. It's a good processor if you're going to do some basic computer tasks.
I have had mine for 9 years, mines 4790k hopefully it will still be ok for starfeild either way i got my moneys worth out of this and have overclocked it to 4.6ghz
What a big coincidence!! From my various gigs, I'm writing this comment with the one that has this boy inside. Still paired with the old GTX 980 Titan, Asus Z97pro wifi mobo, Samsung 850pro 1T, 32gigs of Geil RAM. Up until now NO problems whatsoever. Had to replace PSU 2 years ago. My newest setup with a i9-13700k, 64 gigs of RAM, Gigabyte RTX 3080Ti, ROG Strix Z790-A Wifi, 2T Samsung nvme SSD, 1000W Coolermaster PSU altogether didn't even cost half the money than that old one...
Haswell brought a major set of new instructions... primarily AVX2 but also gather, BMI1,2, ABM and FMA3 Later architectures bring AVX512 - but with rather patchy support And of course, who can forget POPCNT (can it run Apex Legends), introduced with AMD FX and Intel 1st gen
i ran the i7-4790 for a long time i loved it i paired it with a FE GTX980 and it slayed so many games its still a very good option, but for near the same money you can get an HPz440 and slowly upgrade it for dollars and you will have a very nice rig, my current rig is a HP z440 with a E5-2699v3 which is equal to a i7-10700 and the cpu costed me 43$ the desktop was 80$ i bought a ram kit a 16x4 64gb kit at 2133mhz for 60$ and i tossed in a 2080ti and i can play anything on ultra 1440p with over 100 fps in most titles, but the best part about the z440 is its upgrade path is enormous you can go up to v4 xeons and get 2400mhz ram and make it a tank! Great vid would love to see more!
I'm running a 4790 with a Noctua nhd15, while it struggles in some games higher settings, it is still smashing it in 2023. I want to upgrade, but I'm in no rush
Been running the K version with a 2060 since 2060, and it's done well with whatever I've thrown at it at 1080p, even if newer releases have not been kind (Says me who pretty much plays older games, hoi4 and football manager these days XD ). Obvious CPU body-hitters like Cyberpunk and Ubisoft games did make it struggle to keep up (Even we happy few these days is hitting it harder than the graphics which is... Confusing), but it's good to see older hardware can still keep up.
Ive been running my 4790k for years now. I got it back in 2020 for around $60. I have it paired with a 1080ti and 32gb of RAM. Theres a little bit of bottleneck but im able to play games like Cyberpunk, Baldurs Gate 3 and FF7:R with no issues.
Still using my 4790k alongside a more recent 3090. Probably should upgrade but so far it runs new games flawlessly at 60-120fps 4k which is all I need it to do
@@Jaindike At higher resolutions like 4k it's been documented that a pairing like this actually doesn't bottleneck too much. At 1080p or less it'd be noticeable though. Many of the bigger tech channels on YT have talked about it.
I had my OG build that lasted forever. i54690k 8GBRam GTX 970 Right when call of duty battle royal came out thats when it tapped out my build. Still have her for media streaming and emulators in the house.
4790 with id cooling tower cooler from amazon is solid, it keeps it cool no problem. 20$. Paired with a 1070ti or a comparable card is a golden combo that can give you solid 1080p gaming.
My son plays on my old ddr3 machine. 4790 locked with a gtx 1060 6 gig. He's playing starfeild right now. It's a little grainy but it doesn't stutter or anything.
The thermal problems with the Haswell CPU's was mostly due to a cheap thermal paste used inside the IHS and many enthusiasts were actually delidding them and swapping the paste to liquid metal (myself included) which reduced the temps almost 20 degrees. You definitely don't need to use more thermal paste though, you already used too much.
Mine has the stock air cooler (Dell Optiplex 9020) with an upgraded Noctua fan, and it just doesn't get hot. I just upgraded the processor and very carefully used good thermal paste though.
This problem was corrected by Haswell Refresh, replacing it with a higher quality paste. 4790 and 4690 are Haswell refreshes, like many xeons for socket 1150 (for example, xeon 1241v3)
@@icewater4723 Can't say that's entirely true. My 4690K ran quite hot and replacing the paste with liquid metal brought down the temps by 15 degrees. Everyone was delidding their Haswells back then, refresh or not.
@@Remu- Definitely liquid metal will be better. The first Haswells generally had overheating problems, but the Haswell Refresh was a little better. Intel called the new thermal paste "T.I.M." It was better than on the old Haswells, but this, of course, was marketing and it was far from Artik MX4, not to mention liquid metal.
I'm using the same Cpu with 16gb ddr3 ram in a bog standard dell. Just added a 1060gtx and a hand full of old ssd drives. And to be honest I only have a 60hz screen and most games run at over 60fps. So really I can't be more happy with it. You don't need a whole lot to play games. Might upgrade the 1060 to a 2060 or 2080 or something like that in the future. I'm only a casual gamer today so it's perfectly fine :)
Still running a delidded 4.8ghz 4790k with a 5700xt. GPU busy shows perfect sync in all the games I play, I've even got a bit of headroom. I still see myself using it for another Year or two. Best value part that I've ever bought- never had a PC part last so long! That 4790 is running very hot- I have a regular 4790 in my backup pc and it never gets above 65 under load with a cheap air cooler.
I have the i7-4790s, it was in an old thinkcentry e73z AIO from my mother's friend who's company was giving them away or something, I ended up getting this in like 2019 and now I'm thinking to buy some power supply and Frankenstein a gpu outside of it using a pcie riser xd
A couple years ago, I upgraded my system to a Dell Optiplex 7020, which seems to be the standard for el cheapo builds. It and a GTX 970 runs pretty much everything I need in spite of their age, and that includes the emulation of systems like the Playstation 2 and GameCube.
I delidded my 4790k and applied some thermal paste inside the IHS and it dropped up to 20 degrees C from peak! Thats running it overclocked at 4.8Ghz as well. Running the Bench option in CPU-Z, i get 535 points single thread, 2700 points in multi thread. For comparisons sake, my laptop with a 12th Gen i7-1265u gets 668/4560 points respectively.
Fun video . Yes the SSD drive will make a Huge difference unless the ide control is borked. My sis has a Toshiba Laptop with a i3 5th gen that she thought was dead. The boot up was taking almost 15 minutes everything was running super slow. I did two upgrades boosted it form 6gb of ram to 16gb 8x2 and cloned her toshiba hdd to a Western Digital 500GB SSD. Her Laptop boot up time went to less than a minute and everything was running almost 70% faster 👍👍It is amazing what a system booster SSD are to a system of any age if you can get them to work.
I did a similar thing with the Mrs' old laptop from 2012 that was looking like finished. It was crawling along on Win 7 with 4GB and a slow fragmented mechanical drive. Now it's got 16GB and a Samsung Evo SSD. Runs Win 10 like a dream! Parts were pretty cheap too.
im still using my i7 3770k sadly my motherboard cant support overclocking which is its stock boost clock into 3.8mhz i paired it on rx 580 8gb 2304sp clocked by 1400mhz core and 2100mhz mem its still great in 2024 seeing the fastest 3rdgen intel is great old gen must be still having videos like this because of budget or just great deal on build
Hey man if your capture card is causing problems with tearing win 10 has built in screen recorder I think the shortcut is win+shift+r it may impact performance a bit but I don't think it'll cause tearing
I just got a hand-me-down machine, i7-4770K, 16 GB dual ddr3-1600. Using a modest 120mm AiO I can oc 4.2 GHz. Replacing my TV computer with the i7-950. It's a huge improvement! I paired this with my backup RX 6500XT, and it works fine (the x4 PCIe3.0 card doesn't slow things down...)
I'm curious, is it bottlenecked by the 1st gen i7. I always saw the large core counts and thought that meant performance, but I learned cores aren't everything. Saw that a 1st gen i7 had more cores than a second gen
@@appsaucetech Intel did 4 core 8 thread for generations. i7-920 to i7-7700k were All 4/8. Small improvements in MHz and tiny IPC gains over years and years.
I had a 4790k and a gtx 980 in my pc back then. It was the first pc i got myself where i decided on the parts myself (before that i bought prebuilts and laptops in stores). Nowadays i only build myself btw
I am still using my 4790K today and it is mainly for music production. But I run mine at 4,8GHZ (ALL CORES No Turbo) with extremely tight memory timings. usually a 4790K will not turbo when all cores are loaded but the way I overclock I have it configured with 4,8Ghz as the standard speed and then it will still run at this speed with all cores fully loaded. I have it Lapped and undervolted to keep the TJ below 80C at all times to run in this speed even then it pulls up to 130+ (I have a Dark rock PRO 3 air cooler) watts but it is a problem with the built in voltage regulator making it impossible to run it at this speed without Intel Extreme Tuning utility and this is a huge problem in itself because I cannot find a windows 10 compatible version that works with my system so I am stuck with win7. But I can guarantee that I have amongst the highest performing 4790K in the world in this config in 2024. Even though it have a tough life running 4 screens and heavy live rendering
You could've delidded the processor and replaced the thermal paste inside the die, that should get rid of the throttling issue. Older Intel CPU's were known for their thermal paste degredation, which your 4790 surely has since it’s a 9 year old CPU. This is also why delidding became popular with Intel CPU's.
@@AntiGrieferGames That’s not the point, the point is that your results could’ve shifted differently if you decided to delid the CPU. Speaking from experience, I tried that years ago with my 5 year old 7700K which was throttling like crazy and I just thought maybe it’s reaching its end of life. But it had a second life and was in pristine condition after I delidded, performance was just like out of the factory.
It truly has been a amazing processor never once had a issue with mine. Perfect for pc's today especially if you play mainly older titles like fallout 4 or warframe and such.
Got it when it launched 4790 lasted me so long i just upgraded to the 7900 nonx in May 😂 I ran a samsung 750 with mine that i got in 2016 and had no issues like you so thinking the hard drive is your issue 😊
Not sure if it counts for the refresh models, but Haswell original has a micro code bug allowing overclocking on non k models. Haven't achieved it on my gt70, but i have read a handful of posts on forums of people achieving over 4ghz on 4700mq.
I have the 4790K, i built my PC in 2014 & i still use it everyday, still runs everything with no issues, never even changed the thermal paste, i plan to build a monster pc next year so this cpu would have lasted me a decade!
IM STILL USING THE 4790k TOO BRO! i need to repaste bc now my temps are getting higher but this thing has ran non stop like a f***ing champion. still runs basically any game i need to, although i dont get 1440p 144fps most of the time (still running a rx 580 4gb and 16gb ddr3). honestly legendary cpu. i dont wanna upgrade till i really need to haha
How do you get past the min spec on games on steam?? Cyberpunk 2077 min is Core i7-6700. I have an i7-4770 and steam tells me computer doesnt meet specs. I have an rtx3060 also.
my server is the xeon version of this cpu. and my homie games on a 4790k with a 2060. were both just glad they've lasted this long and can still do pretty much anything (just slower)
between the time i placed this comment and now, the rig with the xeons mobo died. lemme clean the thermal paste off the chip rq then ill tell ya xD@@Jaindike
I think i7 Haswell would still have some punch for years to come. Yes it's nearly obsolete and almost irrelevant for the latest GPUs but if you see it from price stand point i think you could build a maximum spec PC with minimum budget. If you think 4th gen Core i7 is cheap enough then try to look for its closest siblings: Xeon. For certain model the pricing is ridiculously low that would make the price - performance factor even better. For example: i managed to grab a Xeon E3 1265L v3 from Aliexpress for USD 25; FYI, this particular Xeon is similar to i 4770T 45W tdp that priced around 50 USD in Indonesian market. DDR3 modules are also dirt cheap, 30-35 USD for total 32GB. Pair those Xeon, DDR3 with office PC such as HP ProDesk 600/800 G1 and you'll have a decent platform that could handle upto 160W graphics card (undervolted gtx1070 or rtx2060-3060) using original 320W psu. Nice. My recent build (Xeon 4C/8T + DDR3 32GB + ssd + HP ProDesk + RTX 2060) only cost me USD 225; all grabbed in 2nd-hand market. In my opinion, Haswell is still a strong contender for low budget powerful system because of its great availability in cheap parts.
Though some games you will also get a considerable amount of stuttering too depending on what you play and some games are asking for better CPU as min requirement... Anyway last year still under the pandemic I bought a Asus Sabertooth Z77 + I7 3770K + 2x8 GB DDR3 + Nvidia GT730 for 150€ which for Europe was a nice price since just the CPU was around 100€ but it's not like the PC was worth much at all other than the motherboard which I love the old Sabertooth...
I'm running starfield on an I7-4770k at 1080 no problem at all. I thought for sure I needed 6 cores to run it, but I only needed to update my video card. Got a 6600XT, but it seems like that is overkill as well. Runs on ultra for most settings. I'm not a FPS nerd, so I don't know or care, but the game runs just fine. Loading screens are not any longer than FO4 or Skyrim.
I was using an fx 8350 I got years ago in a bundle with its mobo for like 120 bucks. Recently I just got to move my 3gb 1060 into an old RoG G20 that I put a 4790k into. She’s great.
I have an old 4790k system that was built with a mid range mobo. I can't even find a replacement mobo with similar specs, much less any improvement. Fast overclocking memory is hard to find, and almost always grossly expensive. If all you want is a basic 4790k system, it can be cheap, but value goes way out the window of you want premium mobo or memory.
I use a Xeon E3-1285L v4 (4C/8T) on my LGA1150 board from ASRock, whose BIOS allows running all 8 threads at max clock, or 3.8GHz. Compared to the i7-4790, it performs on a par, but uses less power. This is a Z97 mini-itx build at my wife's office, which I use for gaming, playing the same titles as on my i9-9900K gaming machine at home. Only the video card, an RTX 2060, holds me back, not the CPU. I love this build, as I also do some folding@home on this machine, and can do so at lower energy cost while putting up decent numbers.
While i wouldnt want it in my workstation today, i have 3 haswell quad-core based PCs in my home (NAS, Media PC in the living room, Notebook) and they work just fine and have more than enough power for the tasks they need to do.
I will always have fond memories of 4790. As a teen i struggled with money like most teens nowadays so i could never afford a good pc. When i got my first job, i saved money for new PC and i7 4790k came out at that time. I bought it brand spanking new and it was like a milestone to me. It felt like owning a spaceship compared to all the PCs i had before it. Glad to see it still kicking.
My 4790K couldn't quite do 4.6 GHz stable so had to settle for 4.5. It was an absolute steal though, bought it in 2016 brand new for 100 bucks on ebay and it was used 24/7 until the start of 2023.
Im using 4790 along with GTX 1650 and Its really good cheap setup, will probably update soon but I have it for years and its so good, Beam Ng, Forza Horizon 4, 5, Arma 3, GTA V... Playable fps in all those games
I have about a dozen computers of different ages, and at least three of them are Haswells. Old AF and runs great!! One is in my iMac, one is my CentOS box, and one for the grand kids to play on.
Aside from my son's PC which runs modern Ryzen hardware, every PC in my house runs older hardware with SSDs. My PC - Intel Xeon E5-1650 w/GTX 1060, Daughter PC - i7-4770 w/RX 580, HTPC - i7-4790 w/ GTX 1660 Super. They all still scream along and serve us well. Love Intel 4th gen.
I just did a build with the 4790 $25 well spent. Did a BLCK over clock up to 4.2Ghz and while it has limitations for sure in $400 builds its great. Sad to see the hate on AMD we still have a 4.8Ghz fx8350 that's going strong such a good value cpu in its day.
@shawnd567 True although I remember when they released the 8350 was about the same price as a locked i5. Price and performance wise I always compared FX to the i5 cpus never the i7. These days the FX seems to do fine with a 4.8 bus over clock. It's a young kids system rocking my old R9 fury. Wouldn't do any builds to sell with FX any more with first gen ryzen stuff being so cheap.
I have modified Dell optiplex 7020 with this beast and a gtx1070ti and i dont have trouble with games of the caliber of resident evil4 remakes, days gonne even cyberpunk!
DO NOT use this product as croutons for a salad...
Don't tell me how to live my life!
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@@PinkyTech😂😂😂😂
well now I wanna do it...
I currently run an i7 4770 with an rtx2060 with 32gb ddr3 and I can confirm that 4th gen still kicks ass.
no botteneck?
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I just ordered a new PSU and a RTX 2060 Super 12GB (yes, that's a thing.) So that will be my build in about a week. The 1050 Ti (best card the stock PSU would support) already punches way above is weight class.
Also upgrading the memory to 32 GB, and replacing the SSD. The one that came with the rig (refurbished Dell Optiplex 9020) sucks- slower than a good HDD.
When I get done, I'll have about $800 into a PC that would cost you twice that at least from one of those custom PC builders. Has all the aesthetics of a concrete block, but who cares? I don't like RGB anyway.
I could spend around $70 for a new triple-fan case and the adapters to put the Dell guts into it, but won't bother unless the new setup has cooling issues. At that point the only thing stock will be the MOBO.
@ostlandr Sounds awesome! It won't disappoint you. I still have my 1050Ti, I installed it in a PC I built for my son, but for some reason Warzone doesn't start. I don't know if it's because of the gpu though.
I run an i3 4th gen with no graphics card and 4gb ram. And I can confirm it kicks my ass
Yup, I bought my i7 4790k nine years ago, and still using it to play starfield and baldur's gate 3. Have a big Noturia fan along with 32GB of DDr3 ram. NVME and few SSD to boot. Nvidia RTX 3060 12 GB does all the hard work.
Run the memory at 2400 Mhz cl11 if possible (@1.65V max). You see a noticeable performance improvement over the "typical" 1600 Mhz RAM frequency, today in modern games.
Nocturia lmao
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With 1600 ram speed is worth it upgrading from i5 4570 to i7 4790? I have a non oc motherboard?
@@user-qh2gj9nz8z i7 4790 cant oc so yes
I hope this channel remains reviewing old gaming hardware. There are too many new gaming hardware review channels now and not enough old hardware gaming review channels to see if old hardware can still hold up with modern games. Besides a good sum of people are on a tight budget now given the current economic situation and can only afford to buy old hardware like this, so it helps out a lot .
Totally agree. I am in the middle of another system refurb. Using an i5 4570 as the cpu.
@@computerrefurbishment9748 i just built a system recently based on AMDs AM4. Even going ultra budget for gaming on newer hardware, using a Ryzen 5 5600G, and 16gb of DDR4 3200 ram, it set me back 485 dollars total, that included a B550 mobo, a case and a PSU. Sure i could have built it even cheaper and saved 45 dollars, but i wanted a good PSU. I plan on upgrading to a GPU in 6 months, probably to a Radeon 6650XT, but i didn't want to go over 500 dollars on this build right now. So in the mean time i'll just do some light gaming. My old AMD FX system had to get retired.
It'll stay like this for a long time. If given the option to spend 300 bucks on a new ish budget gpu, or 300 budget on some flagship monstrosity from 2007, I'm choosing the cars from 07. (Plus I'm broke to so don't expect any brand new parts for years)
@@computerrefurbishment9748 I'm still suffering with a i5 4460 😢
@@computerrefurbishment9748 I'm on a i5 4590 and still holds up with everything I throw at it with an RX570 4GB 1080p low/med on most things. Going to pick up a cheap i7 4790 in a couple of days and that will do until I do notice real issues. Entire system with 16GB DDR3 1600, 1TB SSD, 128GB SSD boot drive and a 22" 1080p Dell monitor, £150 (190USD)for the lot.
My main PC still has a 4790K @ 4,4 GHz, that I bought back in 2014 when it was released. I have just upgraded RAM to 32 GB, GPU to a 3070, and replaced HDDs with SSDs. I have never before had a CPU last this long.
3070 with 4790k?u play on 4k?
@@care2023 Yes, 4K whenever possible.
Same here but I buyed recently rtx 4070 ti !
I like the processor too, rebuilt one for the kids and one for another kid going into college. But as far as frame rates go even the 12th gen i3 which is pretty cheap, and you can find motherboards reasonably priced, you should pull 40 more frames a second and what you're currently getting.
But where the difference really shows is also 100% faster on processor between that 12th i3 and the same 4th gen i7.
Such a GPU is a waste with that CPU
Love this CPU. I still have my previous computer that I built with the 4790K and it's overclocked to 4.6 GHz all cores with decent temps (water cooled with well vented case).
Had no problem running Cyberpunk 2077 for the first seven months paired with an overclocked GTX 1660ti.
Now it's just my spare computer hooked up to my den TV.
I recently bought the i7 4770 for €35 to upgrade from an i3 4th-gen in my HP prodesk, works great. Paired with 32gb ram and sata ssd, the PC is flying
Ur looking good
it is flying.. until you find some frame drops
@@khaledahmad7204remember he upgraded from a i3 4th gen, that i7 4770 is going to be a heaven for our man and certainly he ain't going to play games like starfield with this CPU, (maybe😅)
I used a 4790k for years. I loved it. I used it with a Noctua NH-D14 which cooled it brilliantly. It is so good it now cools my 3900X great. Keep up the good work dude!
That's awesome. And thank you, will do
I still use the 4790 to this day, it's safer than the 6 to 11 generation CPUs, doesn't have the Downfall vulnerability later models have. I don't play games, I design games..
I had bought a i7 4790k when it was brand new, I remember that it was a big deal when it was released, had played a lot of witcher 3 with this chip. I had a gtx 780 paired with it as well sheesh times have changed. it had ran hot with even a noctua NH-U12S at 4.4ghz all core oc. its still impressive how that locked chip run games now a days!
This video is so well made, a huge thumbs up! The production is insane, definitely worth more followers, just subscribed to your channel! Hope the CZcams algorithm kicks in soon!
Ay I'm glad you liked the video, really appreciate it. More coming soon :)
On the cooler, old HP system motherboards don't use a standard mounting size for the cpu cooler. The G1 Tower has a larger (flat, fan on top) cooler that uses the same mounting. It was proprietary (non ATX) along with the rest of the motherboard. The tower also used a case exhaust fan. You will need to find another board if you want to upgrade cooler and power supply. It also dose not have the options to overclock. Still they were built to run all day for years on end in a business environment. I just retired my HP G1 800 I7 4790 tower last week.
Keep building up your rig, getting more solid test results and you'll have tons of subscribers. You present well
Thank you & will do. Glad you enjoyed the video
I run a pair of E5-2667 v2 (same era, slightly slower top speeds, far bigger Cache) with a GeForce GTC 1070 to this day. Thinking about a GPU upgrade sometime next year, way before I even consider a CPU/Mainboard swap. Excellent CPU generation!
I built my kids the i5 4730k new back in the day. They were very little and are still playing with it today. I paired it with an old 980 ti and seems to be a good fit for their uses. I have considered upgrading it to the 4790k but I am not sure the hyperthreading is really worth it. I personally have a 4930k and with a 1080 ti it still runs games fine for me. I am finally considering upgrading (no avx2), I have gotten into emulation and there are a few emulators that I need more cpu. My old PS3 and Xbox 360 have died on me finally.
Good vid!! Haswell was a massive improvement over Ivy Bridge, not only in core architecture and efficiency but we also got AVX2 instructions, crucial for many modern titles
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@@threesixtydegreeorbits2047 ....what?
I've had this cpu literally a few weeks ago, I've upgraded to 11600kf, it's still a pretty capable CPU but I can definitely feel the difference after upgrading! if you want a no non sense gaming CPU it's a solid choice.
I still run the 4790 system that I built in 2016. If it didn't bottle neck the 3080 that I bought last year so bad, I might still use it daily. It's my own couch steam machine today.
Another important benefit of haswell is that they were the 1st generation to support avx 2 instructions unlike the previous gens. This will make this gen age much better in my opinion.
Very nice review though I believe that your planned upgrade to an SSD is really necessary. I briefly used a HDD in a secondary PC that have with an i7 920 @4Ghz and it was a constant bottleneck even when I downloaded simple programs.
Yep for modern games and emulation a great cpu.
I still run an i7 4770.
16 gigs ram
Rx 580
DayZ
Beamng
GTA v
Rdr2
It still does what I need. Pretty robust generation of hardware albeit quite dated.
@@rockandrollemergency 4770 к _4400 _16 gb 2400 .11.13.13 _6800 xt _ 4 k ,I'm not even thinking about changing the processor!
Up until last week, I have been using a 4790k, which I had upgraded from a 4790 about four years ago. It has lasted many years for me. It has been almost a decade. Previously, I had an FX-8350. When I switched, I upgraded the motherboard, with one that had a built-in NVME drive. I then got a BlackMagic card, so I could record from the 4790 machine.
Great vid! Thank you for creating & posting it. I’m finishing a 13th gen i3/ AMD 7600/Windows 11 build for my son this week. His current hand-me-down system (i3-4130/AMD 6600/Windows 10) will be the guest pc or for us to game together while sitting next to each other. I’m considering upgrading the CPU for his old system after I finish the new one for him, so this here is exactly the video I was looking for.
Glad you liked the video! A 4790 would definitely be a good upgrade for that 4130 system. The i3 is still decent, but the 4790 is flawless in day to day tasks, and capable at gaming
Keep making videos like this , enjoyed watching
Will do, glad you enjoyed
What a video, honestly if I didn't look at the sub count, I'd think you have at least 200k. Well done man
Make sure you get the Intel Chipset drivers, I've found that makes a massive performance improvement with an HDD. The default Windows drivers appear to work ok (and don't report any errors in the device mangler) but the performance difference is huge and VERY noticeable.
Didn't even know about that. Thanks, will do
tell me how
I have a 4790k on a z97 motherboard running with 32GB of DDR3-2400 cl11 RAM in XMP, and a RTX 4070 video card. It run all my games easily at 4K resolution in High to Max. settings at 60 fps. By example I have almost constant 60 fps in Cyberpunk 2077 with DLSS on Quality Mode. Same constant 60 fps in Far Cry 6 and other games.
Thnaks for this awesome video. I appreciate all your work.
Ay glad you liked it
I once got a Dell Tower with a i3 4170 cpu and I put in a 4790 cpu and it was thermal throttling. I did a bit of research and Dell put a smaller/weaker fan on the i3 cooler than the i7, they used the same heat sink. I put a bigger/better fan on the heat sink and temps lowered with no more throttling.
Bro we have same system with dell tower with i3 4170 but I am going to buy 4790 , would you recommend me to buy it , please share your opinion.
You didn't ask my opinion if that ship except the motherboard that you have that is a well investment especially if you're getting a more powerful air cooler consider even getting the 4790k I have a Dell 3090 optiplex with a 1660 super I play triple games all the time with a 700 watt PSU Overkill but I didn't want to have any issues if I wanted to upgrade in a future
got mine in a $20 HP 800 SFF rig w/ all new peripherals, threw in 16gb cl9 ram, an ssd, and a sff gtx 1650 (no bottleneck until u go 6600/3060). works great for mid tier gaming. runs windows 11 just fine w/ one registry hack
I built a Core i7-4790K system 7 years ago and it's still my daily driver. I have a Core i7-8700K as my gamer now but this 4th Gen just keeps on kickin' it! If it ain't broke - Don't mess with it!
Nice video, subbed. I've really enjoyed this generation. Currently have on my second rig this CPU and am about to throw it in a Silverstone rvn02 with blower Rtx 2080, nvme 2Tb 970 Evo. I've played Assassin's Creed Origins maxed out at 1440p on this rig, good stuff. I think as DLSS keeps getting better, hardware requirements should keep going down. Anyways, go re-up building, better for the environment and just fun.
Just as a point of comparison to your 4277 CB23 Score (due to 3.6Ghz all core), I just ran CB R23.2 on my 4790K, running at 4.6Ghz all core @1.23V (since 2015 - same solid OC setup) with Kingston 1866 DDR3 Ram (CL10), and I got a score of 5596 (priority normal for CB) and 5695 (priority Realtime for CB). So, there is actually a lot of headroom in the 4790K SKU compared to the non-K SKU with a small cooler. Its now my daughter/family PC since I built my 7800X3D PC recently, and I still find it very responsive (highly optimized bloat free Windows 10) and usable in games paired with my trusty EVGA FTW3 1080Ti. I also tested the 4790K system with 4090 (for science), and most games it could play fine enough at 4K60Hz on my OLED TV, but obviously the 4090 was barely pushed in most games even at 4K with the 4790K. Still, its served me well over the years and continues to do so as a family/kids PC.
I bought a Devil's Canyon, Z97 mobo, and 32 Gb ddr3 near a decade ago to upgrade an older system and have had zero problems with it since assembly. I did add a 2080 a few years later. Some games I can play in 4k with setting all the way up, others I have to use a lower setting. But I've yet to find a game or app I can't run smoothly.
3:25 that's enough slices!
Wha?
Same processor here and the best solution the overheating or thermal throttling is to delid and replace the hardened TIM similar to normal thermal paste (not STIM). you can use any thermal paste or branded thermal paste, but as for me, I used liquid metal and added the IHS back.
Test: ambient temp is 30C | Snowman MT6S dual fan 6 heatpipe tower
Before delid: idle around 45C to 50C | Premiere pro, Prime 95, Cinebech R23 will go beyond 100C quickly
After Delid: idle 35C | Premiere Pro and Cinebench R23 - 65C | Prime 95 - 75C
50C is normal temperature
@@Steve-mp7by not in idle
Im still running my 2014 I7 5960x . Its still going strong 9 years later. My main gaming system has a 5800x3d . The 5960x is in my livingroom PC where i game at 1080p on my TV set with my steam controller.
I just got mine from an old work PC and the clock falls to 3.6GHz after a few seconds in Cinebench, no matter my settings in BIOS. I got like 40C temp and it consumes around 32W of power during Cinebench R23, I also got a similar score to yours. I don't quite understand why it consumes so little power and why it always goes down to 3.6GHz. Any suggestions?
did the same upgrade from a 4130 to a 4790 on my main pc. LIFE CHANGING. buying a new gpu today.
Ooh nice. Moving up in the PC hardware world
This channel deserves more subscribers. Go ahead. Great content.
Ay thanks man. Appreciate it
I recently redid two pcs with a 4790k and a 4770. Both were delidded and i used noctua 2nd gen paste. They both pull 100% at around 165. It's a good processor if you're going to do some basic computer tasks.
I have had mine for 9 years, mines 4790k hopefully it will still be ok for starfeild either way i got my moneys worth out of this and have overclocked it to 4.6ghz
haswell also uses thermal compound for thermal coupling the IHS and with its age that thermal compound will probably needs some retouch
What a big coincidence!! From my various gigs, I'm writing this comment with the one that has this boy inside. Still paired with the old GTX 980 Titan, Asus Z97pro wifi mobo, Samsung 850pro 1T, 32gigs of Geil RAM. Up until now NO problems whatsoever. Had to replace PSU 2 years ago.
My newest setup with a i9-13700k, 64 gigs of RAM, Gigabyte RTX 3080Ti, ROG Strix Z790-A Wifi, 2T Samsung nvme SSD, 1000W Coolermaster PSU altogether didn't even cost half the money than that old one...
Haswell brought a major set of new instructions... primarily AVX2 but also gather, BMI1,2, ABM and FMA3
Later architectures bring AVX512 - but with rather patchy support
And of course, who can forget POPCNT (can it run Apex Legends), introduced with AMD FX and Intel 1st gen
Where it really comes into its own is its ability to overclock like a beast (at least on the K variant)
i ran the i7-4790 for a long time i loved it i paired it with a FE GTX980 and it slayed so many games its still a very good option, but for near the same money you can get an HPz440 and slowly upgrade it for dollars and you will have a very nice rig, my current rig is a HP z440 with a E5-2699v3 which is equal to a i7-10700 and the cpu costed me 43$ the desktop was 80$ i bought a ram kit a 16x4 64gb kit at 2133mhz for 60$ and i tossed in a 2080ti and i can play anything on ultra 1440p with over 100 fps in most titles, but the best part about the z440 is its upgrade path is enormous you can go up to v4 xeons and get 2400mhz ram and make it a tank! Great vid would love to see more!
Your computer build sounds awesome, may have to steal that idea.. And glad you liked the video!
Quality content. Subscribed
Glad you enjoyed it!
I'm running a 4790 with a Noctua nhd15, while it struggles in some games higher settings, it is still smashing it in 2023. I want to upgrade, but I'm in no rush
Been running the K version with a 2060 since 2060, and it's done well with whatever I've thrown at it at 1080p, even if newer releases have not been kind (Says me who pretty much plays older games, hoi4 and football manager these days XD ). Obvious CPU body-hitters like Cyberpunk and Ubisoft games did make it struggle to keep up (Even we happy few these days is hitting it harder than the graphics which is... Confusing), but it's good to see older hardware can still keep up.
Ive been running my 4790k for years now. I got it back in 2020 for around $60. I have it paired with a 1080ti and 32gb of RAM. Theres a little bit of bottleneck but im able to play games like Cyberpunk, Baldurs Gate 3 and FF7:R with no issues.
I like the way you introduced us to the old glory days... Hats off man....
Still using my 4790k alongside a more recent 3090. Probably should upgrade but so far it runs new games flawlessly at 60-120fps 4k which is all I need it to do
A 4790k and a 3090? That is a wild combination but you know what.. it kinda makes sense
@@Jaindike At higher resolutions like 4k it's been documented that a pairing like this actually doesn't bottleneck too much. At 1080p or less it'd be noticeable though. Many of the bigger tech channels on YT have talked about it.
I had my OG build that lasted forever. i54690k 8GBRam GTX 970 Right when call of duty battle royal came out thats when it tapped out my build. Still have her for media streaming and emulators in the house.
4790 with id cooling tower cooler from amazon is solid, it keeps it cool no problem. 20$. Paired with a 1070ti or a comparable card is a golden combo that can give you solid 1080p gaming.
I have one 4770, 4770k and 4790k they all run things just fine. I have a few newer machines but three get used every weekend.
My son plays on my old ddr3 machine. 4790 locked with a gtx 1060 6 gig. He's playing starfeild right now. It's a little grainy but it doesn't stutter or anything.
That's not a bad little machine. Fantastic little starter machine
1 little trick is that you could use z87/97 mobo to lock the boost freq to all 4 cores on the i7. that could squeeze out a bit more performance
Ooh I did not know that. Thanks
Well,my PC at home is i7-6700k with a upgraded RTX3060TI(former is GTX970),NOW play all 3A games well on 1080P resolution..
mine has been used very thoroughly for 9 years and it still going strong
Nice. As long as it's running cool it's going to last for years to come
The thermal problems with the Haswell CPU's was mostly due to a cheap thermal paste used inside the IHS and many enthusiasts were actually delidding them and swapping the paste to liquid metal (myself included) which reduced the temps almost 20 degrees.
You definitely don't need to use more thermal paste though, you already used too much.
Mine has the stock air cooler (Dell Optiplex 9020) with an upgraded Noctua fan, and it just doesn't get hot. I just upgraded the processor and very carefully used good thermal paste though.
This problem was corrected by Haswell Refresh, replacing it with a higher quality paste. 4790 and 4690 are Haswell refreshes, like many xeons for socket 1150 (for example, xeon 1241v3)
@@icewater4723 Can't say that's entirely true. My 4690K ran quite hot and replacing the paste with liquid metal brought down the temps by 15 degrees. Everyone was delidding their Haswells back then, refresh or not.
@@Remu- Definitely liquid metal will be better. The first Haswells generally had overheating problems, but the Haswell Refresh was a little better. Intel called the new thermal paste "T.I.M." It was better than on the old Haswells, but this, of course, was marketing and it was far from Artik MX4, not to mention liquid metal.
I'm using the same Cpu with 16gb ddr3 ram in a bog standard dell. Just added a 1060gtx and a hand full of old ssd drives. And to be honest I only have a 60hz screen and most games run at over 60fps. So really I can't be more happy with it. You don't need a whole lot to play games. Might upgrade the 1060 to a 2060 or 2080 or something like that in the future. I'm only a casual gamer today so it's perfectly fine :)
Still running a delidded 4.8ghz 4790k with a 5700xt. GPU busy shows perfect sync in all the games I play, I've even got a bit of headroom. I still see myself using it for another Year or two. Best value part that I've ever bought- never had a PC part last so long!
That 4790 is running very hot- I have a regular 4790 in my backup pc and it never gets above 65 under load with a cheap air cooler.
Pretty solid built you got there. The i7 4790 is awesome
And yeaaah, I definetly need new cooler
nice video. turn auto focus off when shooting the b roll.. it will be less jarring.
Thanks. And yeah, realized that after posting
i still use mine. OCd to 4.6Ghz @ 1.35V on air.
Been running fine for years.
I have the i7-4790s, it was in an old thinkcentry e73z AIO from my mother's friend who's company was giving them away or something, I ended up getting this in like 2019 and now I'm thinking to buy some power supply and Frankenstein a gpu outside of it using a pcie riser xd
A couple years ago, I upgraded my system to a Dell Optiplex 7020, which seems to be the standard for el cheapo builds. It and a GTX 970 runs pretty much everything I need in spite of their age, and that includes the emulation of systems like the Playstation 2 and GameCube.
I delidded my 4790k and applied some thermal paste inside the IHS and it dropped up to 20 degrees C from peak! Thats running it overclocked at 4.8Ghz as well.
Running the Bench option in CPU-Z, i get 535 points single thread, 2700 points in multi thread. For comparisons sake, my laptop with a 12th Gen i7-1265u gets 668/4560 points respectively.
Fun video . Yes the SSD drive will make a Huge difference unless the ide control is borked. My sis has a Toshiba Laptop with a i3 5th gen that she thought was dead. The boot up was taking almost 15 minutes everything was running super slow. I did two upgrades boosted it form 6gb of ram to 16gb 8x2 and cloned her toshiba hdd to a Western Digital 500GB SSD. Her Laptop boot up time went to less than a minute and everything was running almost 70% faster 👍👍It is amazing what a system booster SSD are to a system of any age if you can get them to work.
I did a similar thing with the Mrs' old laptop from 2012 that was looking like finished.
It was crawling along on Win 7 with 4GB and a slow fragmented mechanical drive.
Now it's got 16GB and a Samsung Evo SSD. Runs Win 10 like a dream!
Parts were pretty cheap too.
im still using my i7 3770k sadly my motherboard cant support overclocking which is its stock boost clock into 3.8mhz i paired it on rx 580 8gb 2304sp clocked by 1400mhz core and 2100mhz mem its still great in 2024 seeing the fastest 3rdgen intel is great old gen must be still having videos like this because of budget or just great deal on build
Hey man if your capture card is causing problems with tearing win 10 has built in screen recorder I think the shortcut is win+shift+r it may impact performance a bit but I don't think it'll cause tearing
Don't really wana record locally though, can impact performance
I just got a hand-me-down machine, i7-4770K, 16 GB dual ddr3-1600. Using a modest 120mm AiO I can oc 4.2 GHz.
Replacing my TV computer with the i7-950. It's a huge improvement!
I paired this with my backup RX 6500XT, and it works fine (the x4 PCIe3.0 card doesn't slow things down...)
I'm curious, is it bottlenecked by the 1st gen i7. I always saw the large core counts and thought that meant performance, but I learned cores aren't everything. Saw that a 1st gen i7 had more cores than a second gen
@@appsaucetech Intel did 4 core 8 thread for generations. i7-920 to i7-7700k were All 4/8.
Small improvements in MHz and tiny IPC gains over years and years.
@@hrayz Really? Now that I look you seem to be correct
My 4790k + 2080ti still performs reasonably well these days.
I had a 4790k and a gtx 980 in my pc back then. It was the first pc i got myself where i decided on the parts myself (before that i bought prebuilts and laptops in stores).
Nowadays i only build myself btw
I am still using my 4790K today and it is mainly for music production. But I run mine at 4,8GHZ (ALL CORES No Turbo) with extremely tight memory timings. usually a 4790K will not turbo when all cores are loaded but the way I overclock I have it configured with 4,8Ghz as the standard speed and then it will still run at this speed with all cores fully loaded. I have it Lapped and undervolted to keep the TJ below 80C at all times to run in this speed even then it pulls up to 130+ (I have a Dark rock PRO 3 air cooler) watts but it is a problem with the built in voltage regulator making it impossible to run it at this speed without Intel Extreme Tuning utility and this is a huge problem in itself because I cannot find a windows 10 compatible version that works with my system so I am stuck with win7. But I can guarantee that I have amongst the highest performing 4790K in the world in this config in 2024. Even though it have a tough life running 4 screens and heavy live rendering
You could've delidded the processor and replaced the thermal paste inside the die, that should get rid of the throttling issue. Older Intel CPU's were known for their thermal paste degredation, which your 4790 surely has since it’s a 9 year old CPU. This is also why delidding became popular with Intel CPU's.
Yep, sometimes higher watts tdp degrates quicker than lower tdp
@@AntiGrieferGames That’s not the point, the point is that your results could’ve shifted differently if you decided to delid the CPU. Speaking from experience, I tried that years ago with my 5 year old 7700K which was throttling like crazy and I just thought maybe it’s reaching its end of life. But it had a second life and was in pristine condition after I delidded, performance was just like out of the factory.
I'll look into that, think it could solve some of issues. Thanks
It truly has been a amazing processor never once had a issue with mine. Perfect for pc's today especially if you play mainly older titles like fallout 4 or warframe and such.
Gotta love the 4790
Currently watching this on a i5 4570 pc, runs everything fine.
Got it when it launched 4790 lasted me so long i just upgraded to the 7900 nonx in May 😂
I ran a samsung 750 with mine that i got in 2016 and had no issues like you so thinking the hard drive is your issue 😊
Nice, and yes my ssd came in and it's way faster now
Im not a gamer that much but I have a i7 4790 paired with 32gb ram and 1080ti doing video editing and vfx and I may say this is still a beast!
Didn't expect it to hold up that well with VFX, nice
Not sure if it counts for the refresh models, but Haswell original has a micro code bug allowing overclocking on non k models. Haven't achieved it on my gt70, but i have read a handful of posts on forums of people achieving over 4ghz on 4700mq.
I'm gonna look into that. Sounds awesome
I have the 4790K, i built my PC in 2014 & i still use it everyday, still runs everything with no issues, never even changed the thermal paste, i plan to build a monster pc next year so this cpu would have lasted me a decade!
IM STILL USING THE 4790k TOO BRO! i need to repaste bc now my temps are getting higher but this thing has ran non stop like a f***ing champion. still runs basically any game i need to, although i dont get 1440p 144fps most of the time (still running a rx 580 4gb and 16gb ddr3). honestly legendary cpu. i dont wanna upgrade till i really need to haha
How do you get past the min spec on games on steam?? Cyberpunk 2077 min is Core i7-6700. I have an i7-4770 and steam tells me computer doesnt meet specs. I have an rtx3060 also.
my server is the xeon version of this cpu. and my homie games on a 4790k with a 2060. were both just glad they've lasted this long and can still do pretty much anything (just slower)
Nice, what xeon is it?
between the time i placed this comment and now, the rig with the xeons mobo died. lemme clean the thermal paste off the chip rq then ill tell ya xD@@Jaindike
i have one of these and a 1660 super in my bedroom pc. It pretty much plays anything i throw at it. 1440p runs sweet.
I'm running a i7 4790k on my Dell Optiplex 9020. It runs pretty great
I think i7 Haswell would still have some punch for years to come.
Yes it's nearly obsolete and almost irrelevant for the latest GPUs but if you see it from price stand point i think you could build a maximum spec PC with minimum budget.
If you think 4th gen Core i7 is cheap enough then try to look for its closest siblings: Xeon.
For certain model the pricing is ridiculously low that would make the price - performance factor even better.
For example: i managed to grab a Xeon E3 1265L v3 from Aliexpress for USD 25; FYI, this particular Xeon is similar to i 4770T 45W tdp that priced around 50 USD in Indonesian market.
DDR3 modules are also dirt cheap, 30-35 USD for total 32GB.
Pair those Xeon, DDR3 with office PC such as HP ProDesk 600/800 G1 and you'll have a decent platform that could handle upto 160W graphics card (undervolted gtx1070 or rtx2060-3060) using original 320W psu. Nice.
My recent build (Xeon 4C/8T + DDR3 32GB + ssd + HP ProDesk + RTX 2060) only cost me USD 225; all grabbed in 2nd-hand market.
In my opinion, Haswell is still a strong contender for low budget powerful system because of its great availability in cheap parts.
Though some games you will also get a considerable amount of stuttering too depending on what you play and some games are asking for better CPU as min requirement...
Anyway last year still under the pandemic I bought a Asus Sabertooth Z77 + I7 3770K + 2x8 GB DDR3 + Nvidia GT730 for 150€ which for Europe was a nice price since just the CPU was around 100€ but it's not like the PC was worth much at all other than the motherboard which I love the old Sabertooth...
I'm running starfield on an I7-4770k at 1080 no problem at all. I thought for sure I needed 6 cores to run it, but I only needed to update my video card. Got a 6600XT, but it seems like that is overkill as well. Runs on ultra for most settings. I'm not a FPS nerd, so I don't know or care, but the game runs just fine. Loading screens are not any longer than FO4 or Skyrim.
I was using an fx 8350 I got years ago in a bundle with its mobo for like 120 bucks.
Recently I just got to move my 3gb 1060 into an old RoG G20 that I put a 4790k into. She’s great.
Ooh nice. Definitely better than the FX chip
I have an old 4790k system that was built with a mid range mobo. I can't even find a replacement mobo with similar specs, much less any improvement. Fast overclocking memory is hard to find, and almost always grossly expensive. If all you want is a basic 4790k system, it can be cheap, but value goes way out the window of you want premium mobo or memory.
the return of legend❤
I use a Xeon E3-1285L v4 (4C/8T) on my LGA1150 board from ASRock, whose BIOS allows running all 8 threads at max clock, or 3.8GHz. Compared to the i7-4790, it performs on a par, but uses less power. This is a Z97 mini-itx build at my wife's office, which I use for gaming, playing the same titles as on my i9-9900K gaming machine at home. Only the video card, an RTX 2060, holds me back, not the CPU. I love this build, as I also do some folding@home on this machine, and can do so at lower energy cost while putting up decent numbers.
While i wouldnt want it in my workstation today, i have 3 haswell quad-core based PCs in my home (NAS, Media PC in the living room, Notebook) and they work just fine and have more than enough power for the tasks they need to do.
I will always have fond memories of 4790. As a teen i struggled with money like most teens nowadays so i could never afford a good pc. When i got my first job, i saved money for new PC and i7 4790k came out at that time. I bought it brand spanking new and it was like a milestone to me. It felt like owning a spaceship compared to all the PCs i had before it. Glad to see it still kicking.
yeah but did you know it's technically a steam dec cpu in a nutshell true fact it can match a steam deck for cpu performance🤣🤣🤣
Amazing Video!!! What Software do you use to display the framerates as well as the GPU and CPU usage while in game?
fpsmon. It costs money though, but MSI Afterburner is free
My 4790K couldn't quite do 4.6 GHz stable so had to settle for 4.5. It was an absolute steal though, bought it in 2016 brand new for 100 bucks on ebay and it was used 24/7 until the start of 2023.
Im using 4790 along with GTX 1650 and Its really good cheap setup, will probably update soon but I have it for years and its so good, Beam Ng, Forza Horizon 4, 5, Arma 3, GTA V...
Playable fps in all those games
That's a pretty good budget setup you have. I think I'd build something similar to that if I had to
nice one youtube recommended me there
Glad to have you
I have about a dozen computers of different ages, and at least three of them are Haswells. Old AF and runs great!! One is in my iMac, one is my CentOS box, and one for the grand kids to play on.
i did buy it 4 years back for 160e. still runs everything in my old pc.
Ay it's still a great processor!
Aside from my son's PC which runs modern Ryzen hardware, every PC in my house runs older hardware with SSDs.
My PC - Intel Xeon E5-1650 w/GTX 1060, Daughter PC - i7-4770 w/RX 580, HTPC - i7-4790 w/ GTX 1660 Super.
They all still scream along and serve us well. Love Intel 4th gen.
I just did a build with the 4790 $25 well spent. Did a BLCK over clock up to 4.2Ghz and while it has limitations for sure in $400 builds its great. Sad to see the hate on AMD we still have a 4.8Ghz fx8350 that's going strong such a good value cpu in its day.
That's because even the fx 8350 is way slower than the 4790. They might have been decent at the time but they aged super fast.
@shawnd567 True although I remember when they released the 8350 was about the same price as a locked i5. Price and performance wise I always compared FX to the i5 cpus never the i7. These days the FX seems to do fine with a 4.8 bus over clock. It's a young kids system rocking my old R9 fury. Wouldn't do any builds to sell with FX any more with first gen ryzen stuff being so cheap.
I have modified Dell optiplex 7020 with this beast and a gtx1070ti and i dont have trouble with games of the caliber of resident evil4 remakes, days gonne even cyberpunk!